Wembley win will make Bradford City boss hot property (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Bradford City cup final win will make Phil Parkinson hot property
8:00am Tuesday 19th February 2013 in Capital One Cup Final – Bradford City v Swansea
Exclusive By Simon Parker, Bradford City Reporter
Alan Pardew knew Phil Parkinson had what it takes to become a manager when the pair were together at Reading as boss and captain
Alan Pardew reckons City have a “35 per cent” chance of winning the Capital One Cup – but feels they will struggle to hang on to Phil Parkinson if they do.
The Newcastle boss admits the whole of football has been stunned by the way a League Two side have made it to Wembley.
Pardew, a good friend of Parkinson, was at Villa Park to see the job done in the second semi-final – and jumped out of his seat when James Hanson scored the tie-clinching goal.
With Parkinson’s contract up in the summer, Pardew expects rival offers to come flooding in if City complete the miracle and beat Swansea on Sunday.
He told the T&A: “Win the League Cup final and it will be very difficult for the club to hold on to him. Phil is going to be in such demand and rightly so.
“It’s a massive achievement to take Bradford to a final. They should really have absolutely no right to be there.
“It’s a tremendous tribute to the players who have done it and the manager, of course.
“But the situation is all good; nobody loses. Bradford will hopefully win the cup and then promotion may follow.
“All of a sudden, the club find themselves in a much healthier position in the summer. If they don’t manage to keep Phil on another contract, it’s a great position for a new manager to follow up.
“Everywhere is the same – the football club is the most important thing and Phil will be aware of that.”
The pair have been close since Pardew became Reading manager in 1998 and Parkinson was his captain. Pardew knew then that the player had what it takes for the hot-seat.
He said: “I had no doubts he’d go down that line. Phil’s always been very articulate and a strong personality.
“He carried himself well and said the right things in the changing room as a player.
“Technically he was a poor player, though. We wouldn’t give him the ball at one period of my tenure but he’d still win it back! His work ethic was always high in everything he did.”
Parkinson turned to Pardew for advice when he went for the Valley Parade post 18 months ago. Pardew had no doubt that he could succeed at a club stuck in the doldrums.
He said: “I think people underestimate that Phil could have taken a better job than Bradford. He was very brave to take that role.
“I remember speaking to him and he had some slight reservations. My message was ‘believe in your ability’ and he has proven that more than once.
“Nobody is too big to end up where Bradford find themselves. I heard the same about Portsmouth, Sheffield United and Sheffield Wednesday.
“The recent history hasn’t been very successful but there’s no reason why they can’t come back again. When you take a job like Bradford, that’s what you want to achieve.”
Pardew hopes to be at Wembley to see if Parkinson can pull off the most remarkable cup win in history. He certainly feels City are capable of claiming a fourth top-flight scalp.
“In a cup final, you have a realistic opportunity of winning,” he said.
“It’s not a 50 per cent chance but I’d say around 35 per cent. That’s still a good percentage to win a game from – I’ve gone into games thinking like that and won.
“I would have put Bradford’s chance of beating Arsenal at home at only 25 per cent. So they’ve already proved that they can do it.
“I was at Villa and jumped up when the goal went in – that’s the first time all year. Definitely count me as a Bradford fan on Sunday.”
Comments(42)
ALEXIMO.56.
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9:00am Tue 19 Feb 13
Freddy
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9:00am Tue 19 Feb 13
QUOTE : " “It’s a tremendous tribute to the players, who have done it, and the manager, of course.
“But the situation is all good; nobody loses. Bradford will hopefully win the cup, and then promotion may follow."
* Thank you Alan Pardew--and your support of Bradford City is most appreciated. WELCOME ON BOARD -Sir . ( Thank you for the loan player too!!)
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Newcastle United and Bradford City, have always had a very special relationship. Thinking back over the years--and for one memory, the transfer of Peter Jackson, and 'Jacko's ' great contribution to their Club, and Supporters.
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I hope Alan is right with his hopes for City.
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I agree his thoughts concerning 'Parky' leaving City in the Summer, which should act as a warning to City and the directors. If City don't achieve promotion this Season ( But 'Play Offs' and Wembley -AGAIN !, could beckon).
THEN WE MUST retain 'Parky' - his excellent management team and coaching staff. THAT IS A MUST AND PRIORITY REQUIREMENT.
Otherwise our attempts at promotion NEXT Season will NOT materialise.
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bettyswollocks
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9:05am Tue 19 Feb 13
Birky_Neil
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9:30am Tue 19 Feb 13
bettyswollocks wrote:Does he know he won't get 40k per week now? We don't have an idiot as chairman now!
We've nothing to worry about if Parky goes in the summer, we could always get Benito Carbone. He said he wants the job!
As for trying to hang on to parky if we win well not being funny he is hardly a manager who is running away with the league is he. Not knocking him as I still feel he is better than what we have had in recent years.
Michael Clayton
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10:09am Tue 19 Feb 13
In a sense it will be a relief when Sunday is over but what a fantastic experience it has been
It then becomes a fifteen (or so) match season in which eight points have got to be clawed back to ensure third spot.
If Phil Parkinson can get the team on a roll this will prove how good he really is.
Home: - Wycombe, Rotherham, Dagenham, Aldershot, Bristol Rovers, Southend, Northampton, Burton
Away: - Port Vale, York, Plymouth, Exeter, Torquay, Chesterfield, Cheltenham
Better playing conditions.
Nine and a half weeks of solid concentration from the best squad in League Two will see this one through.
Whoisevans?
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10:10am Tue 19 Feb 13
Peter300
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10:33am Tue 19 Feb 13
Freddy wrote:Well, you will have to convince a lot of people on here who wanted Parkinson sacked last season. They did not want him at the club and said he had to go. And shaun from RICHMOND, bless him, says they are all DEADBEATS at the club.......including
* QUOTE : " “It’s a tremendous tribute to the players, who have done it, and the manager, of course. “But the situation is all good; nobody loses. Bradford will hopefully win the cup, and then promotion may follow." * Thank you Alan Pardew--and your support of Bradford City is most appreciated. WELCOME ON BOARD -Sir . ( Thank you for the loan player too!!) * Newcastle United and Bradford City, have always had a very special relationship. Thinking back over the years--and for one memory, the transfer of Peter Jackson, and 'Jacko's ' great contribution to their Club, and Supporters. * I hope Alan is right with his hopes for City. * I agree his thoughts concerning 'Parky' leaving City in the Summer, which should act as a warning to City and the directors. If City don't achieve promotion this Season ( But 'Play Offs' and Wembley -AGAIN !, could beckon). THEN WE MUST retain 'Parky' - his excellent management team and coaching staff. THAT IS A MUST AND PRIORITY REQUIREMENT. Otherwise our attempts at promotion NEXT Season will NOT materialise. *
....PARKINSON!!!!!!!
!!.........and remember shaun donates money even though he does not support the club.......it's very generous of him....THANKS shaun!!!!!!!!!!!!...
he plays GOLF you know!!!!!!!!!!??????
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Beeceefcee
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12:10pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Andrew_ide
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12:24pm Tue 19 Feb 13
If City win, then they are in Europe next season!
I would be surprised to see Parky go before having a crack at Europe, it would have to be a good offer.
Waynus1971
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12:38pm Tue 19 Feb 13
I know Newcastle haven't had a great deal to celebrate this season, especially since the turn of the year, but to say he has only jumped out of his seat once and that was watching City, says something for our cup run.
I believe 90% of fans outside of Wales will be cheering us on on Sunday. I can't wait.... I seriously think I'm going to explode with excitement...... That's if Peter Vile (300) doesn't bore me to death first...!
Waynus1971
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12:40pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Andrew_ide wrote:It didn't stop Jagger from quitting on us before having a crack at the big boys of Europe..!
Everyone is clearly forgetting one thing, including Pardew. If City win, then they are in Europe next season! I would be surprised to see Parky go before having a crack at Europe, it would have to be a good offer.
Victor Clayton
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12:46pm Tue 19 Feb 13
ALEXIMO.56. wrote:its because it is a level playing field we only have 35%. might bw better for us if it was a bit bumpy!
Only 35% chance of winning it Mr Pardew? It's a level playing surface sir, 11 v 11 and anyone can win it, so that makes it in my eyes 50/50. We are not there on a sight seeing tour but in a cup final and there on merit. I think we can win this final. Yes, we are still the underdogs but as we have seen in our earlier rounds, we can dispose of anyone on our day.
Victor Clayton
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12:51pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Birky_Neil wrote:For the sake of consistency I hope he stays, but to be honest I think he is a bit negative and don’t really like his ultra cautious approached – sorry.
bettyswollocks wrote: We've nothing to worry about if Parky goes in the summer, we could always get Benito Carbone. He said he wants the job!Does he know he won't get 40k per week now? We don't have an idiot as chairman now! As for trying to hang on to parky if we win well not being funny he is hardly a manager who is running away with the league is he. Not knocking him as I still feel he is better than what we have had in recent years.
Andrew_ide
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1:11pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Waynus1971 wrote:Waynus, maybe so, but PJ didn't have the support of Richmond and the dispute is well documented, hence Europe did not interest him. If you've not heard all the different rumours have a look. http://www.boyfrombr
Andrew_ide wrote:It didn't stop Jagger from quitting on us before having a crack at the big boys of Europe..!
Everyone is clearly forgetting one thing, including Pardew. If City win, then they are in Europe next season! I would be surprised to see Parky go before having a crack at Europe, it would have to be a good offer.
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Finally Inter-toto cup is not anywhere as tempting as Europa League
Freddy
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1:33pm Tue 19 Feb 13
I seem to recall that both City's Directors and PP, have agreed to not discuss a new contract, until after Sunday's Match.
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PP will then be in a position to not only concentrate on the remaining League Matches; But also, negotiate a new contract deal, with our Chair-Persons.
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I hope our Directors are already prepared- to offer a good deal to PP.
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Freddy
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1:39pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Peter300 says...
10:33am Tue 19 Feb 13
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""" Well, you will have to convince a lot of people on here who wanted Parkinson sacked last season. They did not want him at the club and said he had to go. And shaun from RICHMOND, bless him, says they are all DEADBEATS at the club.......including
....PARKINSON!!!!!!!
!!.........and remember shaun donates money even though he does not support the club.......it's very generous of him....THANKS shaun!!!!!!!!!!!!...
he plays GOLF you know!!!!!!!!!!??????
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This is further rhetoric and castigation from an Alcoholic with Mental Illness problems. I find it very difficult to determine who this person purports to be; When he states he is a City Player from the past. Who now is a publican.
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I agree with other commentators and Waynus Today-- " That's if Peter Vile (300) doesn't bore me to death first...!"
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Cityman23
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1:45pm Tue 19 Feb 13
(To go with Liverpool's Brendan Rogers' opting for Swansea as the winners at Wembley on Sunday! What a surprise!)
Yes, 'PP' has' done the 'unthinkable'!
ie upsetting the 'cosy' cartel of Premiership hegemony over English finals!! (perhaps trophies?!!)
Yes,Swansea are
the 'favourites'-surpris
e surprise!!
And yes, 'PP' will be much coveted by the 'aspiring', 'failing', 'has-beens' and 'never wasers', IF City lift the League Cup!
Er...not much of a surprise....since envy of other players/managers is ..endemic in football!!
These 'predictions'/commen
ts come from the 'Alan Hanson School of Predictions' ie go for the favourite.
To be honest 35% ie better than a one in three chance, is quite good for a team three leagues below their opponents!! Now THAT is surprising!!
Come on the 'One In Three-ers'!!!
Cityman23
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2:06pm Tue 19 Feb 13
The ONLY thing that can't be changed is a club's history and what a history-making event, winning the cup would be for a team like City.
I'm NOT 'Balbrigan FC or Pardew or Rogers or even..Alan Hansen but I'll make a couple of 'predictions'!!
If City win the League Cup on Sunday, 'PP' will be odds on to be 'Manager Of the Year'.
And BCAFC? Well THEY would be 'Team Of The Year' or should that be '..Of The Decade' or '...Of the Century'!!!
And the BCAFC player that scores the winner/winning penalty...'Player Of The Year'!!'
Michael Clayton
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2:09pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Looking at his record in the transfer market, I cannot think of a single dud that he has brought in.
The only one who got away was David Syers and (proven by every other piece of business) I would like to think that it was down to Syers' demands / willingness than any bad business on the manager's part.
The pity is that a player (such as Syers) would have provided support to the front two down the middle of the park. Something that I think is lacking from the (otherwise excellent) central midfielders.
Michael Clayton
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2:21pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Cityman23 wrote:I think it is a case of putting your eggs in one basket. Also, there is a danger of getting whipped up from all the media hype that will be all the trend in the next week or so.
If City win the cup, it is likely (sooner rather than later) that 'PP' will go. But I would still rather WIN the cup and 'PP' go than 'not' win the cup and 'PP' stay!! The ONLY thing that can't be changed is a club's history and what a history-making event, winning the cup would be for a team like City. I'm NOT 'Balbrigan FC or Pardew or Rogers or even..Alan Hansen but I'll make a couple of 'predictions'!! If City win the League Cup on Sunday, 'PP' will be odds on to be 'Manager Of the Year'. And BCAFC? Well THEY would be 'Team Of The Year' or should that be '..Of The Decade' or '...Of the Century'!!! And the BCAFC player that scores the winner/winning penalty...'Player Of The Year'!!'
Of course, it will go down in the record books but I do not agree with Win-Go versus Lose-Stay.
Without doubt or excuse, the league season has faltered due to the cup run.
If the club had been knocked-out of the cup early on, I believe the team would have been up near the top.
Given that, you would be desperate for the manager to stay rather than allowing a one-off event to prove as some sort of ultimatum.
Win the cup and keep the manager. That is the target.
340stopper
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3:45pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Freddy wrote:Too mutch dithering i fear re PP situation
* I seem to recall that both City's Directors and PP, have agreed to not discuss a new contract, until after Sunday's Match. * PP will then be in a position to not only concentrate on the remaining League Matches; But also, negotiate a new contract deal, with our Chair-Persons. * I hope our Directors are already prepared- to offer a good deal to PP. *
all talk and no action.Being too busy for the last three months or more is a poor excuse.
I really hope i am wrong but i feel PP will be tempted away regardless of winning the cup or achieving promotion.
If he does go however, i will always remember this season for the superb memories it has given me.
craven cottager
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4:23pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Surely you mean Paulo Di Canio!!
Michael Clayton
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4:26pm Tue 19 Feb 13
340stopper wrote:Staggering that the the club is only eleven league places higher than when he took over.
Freddy wrote: * I seem to recall that both City's Directors and PP, have agreed to not discuss a new contract, until after Sunday's Match. * PP will then be in a position to not only concentrate on the remaining League Matches; But also, negotiate a new contract deal, with our Chair-Persons. * I hope our Directors are already prepared- to offer a good deal to PP. *Too mutch dithering i fear re PP situation all talk and no action.Being too busy for the last three months or more is a poor excuse. I really hope i am wrong but i feel PP will be tempted away regardless of winning the cup or achieving promotion. If he does go however, i will always remember this season for the superb memories it has given me.
At the same time, the squad is transformed and there is money in the bank.
Pablo
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5:02pm Tue 19 Feb 13
I'm not sure what other readers views are, but his biggest headache is at Centre Back. I'd go for McCardle and McHugh.
I assume Dickson, having settled in, will play left back. Out wide, I'd start with Atkinson and Thompson, who's staked his claim over recent weeks. It's important we keep it tight for the first twenty minutes and these two would seem to be the best starting option.
I'd lke to see Turgott in the squad because, if we have to chase the game, his enthusiasm and willingness to run at defenders could prove vital.
I don't envy PP as he's going to upset some of the squad.
nowt fresh
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5:08pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Pablo
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5:22pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Pablo wrote:Ooops! Please read "McArdle"
Slightly off topic, but PP has some selection issues on Sunday.
I'm not sure what other readers views are, but his biggest headache is at Centre Back. I'd go for McCardle and McHugh.
I assume Dickson, having settled in, will play left back. Out wide, I'd start with Atkinson and Thompson, who's staked his claim over recent weeks. It's important we keep it tight for the first twenty minutes and these two would seem to be the best starting option.
I'd lke to see Turgott in the squad because, if we have to chase the game, his enthusiasm and willingness to run at defenders could prove vital.
I don't envy PP as he's going to upset some of the squad.
nowt fresh
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5:25pm Tue 19 Feb 13
spearmint wino
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5:35pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Michael Clayton
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5:36pm Tue 19 Feb 13
nowt fresh wrote:It is not really a news article at all. Just media sound-bites. Pardew's percentage speak is a load of twaddle.
Is Alan Pardew also his agent ? you would have to be stupid not to recognise Phil Parkinson will be a wanted man if we win the Capital One Cup hardly rocket science, he has done wonders in the Capital One Cup but the jury is still out on our league position (no not calling for his head Peter300) , we are going to need a massive improvement in league form to get us into a play off position lets see if he and the team are up to the challenge, with the squad we have had this season play offs were/are very achievable over to you Mr Parkinson once Sunday is out of the way..!!
It just shows what a fickle business it is when it is claimed the outcome of one match can determine someone's future.
You mention the play-offs; as far as I am aware, 'automatic' is only one point further away. I think it is going to be all or nothing in league terms.
pokertee
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5:47pm Tue 19 Feb 13
craven cottager wrote:It was Carbone in a interview said he wouldnt mind managing BCFC
Benito Carbone?
Surely you mean Paulo Di Canio!!
Fish05
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5:53pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Pablo wrote:Definately not Thompson, i would guess it will be Hines and Atkinson. As with the rest of the games against the premier leagure teams we need an outlet of pace at least down one side hence why i think he will go with Hines to run his socks off for an hour then come off.
Slightly off topic, but PP has some selection issues on Sunday.
I'm not sure what other readers views are, but his biggest headache is at Centre Back. I'd go for McCardle and McHugh.
I assume Dickson, having settled in, will play left back. Out wide, I'd start with Atkinson and Thompson, who's staked his claim over recent weeks. It's important we keep it tight for the first twenty minutes and these two would seem to be the best starting option.
I'd lke to see Turgott in the squad because, if we have to chase the game, his enthusiasm and willingness to run at defenders could prove vital.
I don't envy PP as he's going to upset some of the squad.
nowt fresh
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5:58pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Michael Clayton wrote:No problem Michael Clayton I'll take automatic if we get into a position where it's achievable, but we have to make up the 7 points we need to make a play off position but yes bring it on, even though Wembley will be our second home by then I would prefer automatic rather than play offs..!!
nowt fresh wrote:It is not really a news article at all. Just media sound-bites. Pardew's percentage speak is a load of twaddle.
Is Alan Pardew also his agent ? you would have to be stupid not to recognise Phil Parkinson will be a wanted man if we win the Capital One Cup hardly rocket science, he has done wonders in the Capital One Cup but the jury is still out on our league position (no not calling for his head Peter300) , we are going to need a massive improvement in league form to get us into a play off position lets see if he and the team are up to the challenge, with the squad we have had this season play offs were/are very achievable over to you Mr Parkinson once Sunday is out of the way..!!
It just shows what a fickle business it is when it is claimed the outcome of one match can determine someone's future.
You mention the play-offs; as far as I am aware, 'automatic' is only one point further away. I think it is going to be all or nothing in league terms.
tingleyb
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6:32pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Team for Sunday - atkinson on right and hines/reid on left. Davies on bench for me - he isn't fit enough yet and it showed against Wimbledon - with Nelson/McHugh at centre half and dickson.
Team have yet to show such consistency but is absolutely a 15 game season - one game at a time after Sunday. Squad is big enough to drop people lacking effort.
what an exciting few months as City Supporter . ...
GABRIEL.NORDE
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6:42pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Michael Clayton wrote:Then, why not give Andy Gray that ROLE for rest o season! He has the experience of 'holding' the ball up. The experience of bein a "forward" player. The experiece of dribbling & driving forward and, experience in years of maturity and knowing the game and also, of what's needed. I say he's absolutely suited for it.
Whatever happens, Parknson must stay.
Looking at his record in the transfer market, I cannot think of a single dud that he has brought in.
The only one who got away was David Syers and (proven by every other piece of business) I would like to think that it was down to Syers' demands / willingness than any bad business on the manager's part.
The pity is that a player (such as Syers) would have provided support to the front two down the middle of the park. Something that I think is lacking from the (otherwise excellent) central midfielders.
Cityman23
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6:48pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Michael Clayton wrote:I think you must be misunderstanding me on this. I am not giving 'PP' (or indeed the team) any sort of 'ultimatum'. To me and many, City are already 'winners.'
Cityman23 wrote:I think it is a case of putting your eggs in one basket. Also, there is a danger of getting whipped up from all the media hype that will be all the trend in the next week or so.
If City win the cup, it is likely (sooner rather than later) that 'PP' will go. But I would still rather WIN the cup and 'PP' go than 'not' win the cup and 'PP' stay!! The ONLY thing that can't be changed is a club's history and what a history-making event, winning the cup would be for a team like City. I'm NOT 'Balbrigan FC or Pardew or Rogers or even..Alan Hansen but I'll make a couple of 'predictions'!! If City win the League Cup on Sunday, 'PP' will be odds on to be 'Manager Of the Year'. And BCAFC? Well THEY would be 'Team Of The Year' or should that be '..Of The Decade' or '...Of the Century'!!! And the BCAFC player that scores the winner/winning penalty...'Player Of The Year'!!'
Of course, it will go down in the record books but I do not agree with Win-Go versus Lose-Stay.
Without doubt or excuse, the league season has faltered due to the cup run.
If the club had been knocked-out of the cup early on, I believe the team would have been up near the top.
Given that, you would be desperate for the manager to stay rather than allowing a one-off event to prove as some sort of ultimatum.
Win the cup and keep the manager. That is the target.
If this was tennis, Swansea would be maybe 'eighth' seeds and City would be 'unseeded' and therefore expected to lose at this stage of the competition.
Yet, unfancied teams DO over come the 'favourites' in football and of course Boris Becker was 'unseeded' when he won his first Wimbledon final.
I of course want 'PP to stay at 'VP' no matter the result on Sunday, but I am realistic to accept IF City were to win the cup, the chance of 'PP' leaving to join higher-placed sides is greater.
Of course he may STILL go even if City lose, at a later date.
IDO confess 'history' is important and City have that 'history-making' chance this weekend. It could be many generations (if at all) before they get a similar opportunity. They will likely get more prootion opportunities, so long as they exist.
But I am NOT foolish enough to 'put my metaphorical eggs' in the 'League Cup Final basket!'
After 24 february, 'life will go on.' If we've won the cup-that will be a season-defining' event and yes-it's possible the residual effect of 'celebration' etc could hamper our chances of pushing on for promotion THIS season. (but..it might not!!!(??))
On the other hand, if we lose unluckily or closely, we're going to feel a bit bad, but hopefully pick ourselves up enough to battle for league points.
If we lose heavily...well..hope
fully ...'PP' can show his man-management/motiv
ational skills to pick up players and ...use this to get the players to try to win 'something' this season ie promotion.
Of course, even if we don't win the cup/don't get promotion -this has STILL been a tremendous season!! (and of course I would still want 'PP' to stay)
As for 'hype'-where City are concerned think it is impossible to 'hype' this final because the idea a fourth tier sde would be facing a top tier side in a national cup Final is so unlikely/impossible to believe (and many in football confirm this) that even the 'hype' feels like understatement!!
Victor Clayton
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8:58pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Michael Clayton wrote:Its just my opinion but I thought Compton was better than Reid or Hines. The first choice striker were already city players when he came and Connell is so far down the pecking order PP would rather play a poorly wells. I do agree that the squad is much better and its a shame syers left.
Whatever happens, Parknson must stay.
Looking at his record in the transfer market, I cannot think of a single dud that he has brought in.
The only one who got away was David Syers and (proven by every other piece of business) I would like to think that it was down to Syers' demands / willingness than any bad business on the manager's part.
The pity is that a player (such as Syers) would have provided support to the front two down the middle of the park. Something that I think is lacking from the (otherwise excellent) central midfielders.
robush
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9:58pm Tue 19 Feb 13
bcfcincheshire
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10:28pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Michael Clayton
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9:17am Wed 20 Feb 13
Cityman23 wrote:Fair points. Well made.
Michael Clayton wrote:I think you must be misunderstanding me on this. I am not giving 'PP' (or indeed the team) any sort of 'ultimatum'. To me and many, City are already 'winners.' If this was tennis, Swansea would be maybe 'eighth' seeds and City would be 'unseeded' and therefore expected to lose at this stage of the competition. Yet, unfancied teams DO over come the 'favourites' in football and of course Boris Becker was 'unseeded' when he won his first Wimbledon final. I of course want 'PP to stay at 'VP' no matter the result on Sunday, but I am realistic to accept IF City were to win the cup, the chance of 'PP' leaving to join higher-placed sides is greater. Of course he may STILL go even if City lose, at a later date. IDO confess 'history' is important and City have that 'history-making' chance this weekend. It could be many generations (if at all) before they get a similar opportunity. They will likely get more prootion opportunities, so long as they exist. But I am NOT foolish enough to 'put my metaphorical eggs' in the 'League Cup Final basket!' After 24 february, 'life will go on.' If we've won the cup-that will be a season-defining' event and yes-it's possible the residual effect of 'celebration' etc could hamper our chances of pushing on for promotion THIS season. (but..it might not!!!(??)) On the other hand, if we lose unluckily or closely, we're going to feel a bit bad, but hopefully pick ourselves up enough to battle for league points. If we lose heavily...well..hope fully ...'PP' can show his man-management/motiv ational skills to pick up players and ...use this to get the players to try to win 'something' this season ie promotion. Of course, even if we don't win the cup/don't get promotion -this has STILL been a tremendous season!! (and of course I would still want 'PP' to stay) As for 'hype'-where City are concerned think it is impossible to 'hype' this final because the idea a fourth tier sde would be facing a top tier side in a national cup Final is so unlikely/impossible to believe (and many in football confirm this) that even the 'hype' feels like understatement!!Cityman23 wrote: If City win the cup, it is likely (sooner rather than later) that 'PP' will go. But I would still rather WIN the cup and 'PP' go than 'not' win the cup and 'PP' stay!! The ONLY thing that can't be changed is a club's history and what a history-making event, winning the cup would be for a team like City. I'm NOT 'Balbrigan FC or Pardew or Rogers or even..Alan Hansen but I'll make a couple of 'predictions'!! If City win the League Cup on Sunday, 'PP' will be odds on to be 'Manager Of the Year'. And BCAFC? Well THEY would be 'Team Of The Year' or should that be '..Of The Decade' or '...Of the Century'!!! And the BCAFC player that scores the winner/winning penalty...'Player Of The Year'!!'I think it is a case of putting your eggs in one basket. Also, there is a danger of getting whipped up from all the media hype that will be all the trend in the next week or so. Of course, it will go down in the record books but I do not agree with Win-Go versus Lose-Stay. Without doubt or excuse, the league season has faltered due to the cup run. If the club had been knocked-out of the cup early on, I believe the team would have been up near the top. Given that, you would be desperate for the manager to stay rather than allowing a one-off event to prove as some sort of ultimatum. Win the cup and keep the manager. That is the target.
pudseykid
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10:37am Wed 20 Feb 13
Michael Clayton wrote:I think this makes alot more SENSE than most..And i confess (as i should) that i wasnt in the PP staying this year camp! Having been humbled by what has been achieved i am also realistic. The MAJOR issue really is the League..Whether via the play offs (which is harder) or to get to 3rd place is really the most important thing..Keeping PP now for another 1-2 years is important...to build ontop of what has already begun...I WILL be travelling from Somerset on Sunday to the Cup Final..with 2 other fans..it will be an emotional day..these guys CAN win..But..speaking personally I would happily swap the cup final for enough points to move up a division
I do not think it is an excuse to say that the promotion campaign has been distorted by the cup run.
In a sense it will be a relief when Sunday is over but what a fantastic experience it has been
It then becomes a fifteen (or so) match season in which eight points have got to be clawed back to ensure third spot.
If Phil Parkinson can get the team on a roll this will prove how good he really is.
Home: - Wycombe, Rotherham, Dagenham, Aldershot, Bristol Rovers, Southend, Northampton, Burton
Away: - Port Vale, York, Plymouth, Exeter, Torquay, Chesterfield, Cheltenham
Better playing conditions.
Nine and a half weeks of solid concentration from the best squad in League Two will see this one through.
Waynus1971
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1:49pm Thu 21 Feb 13
Andrew_ide wrote:Yes Andrew, I have read the stories before and I want to make it clear that I do not blame Jagger for walking. Richmond's interference was apparent at the time and just 6 weeks later,we all saw that he was the puppet-master, pulling the strongs.
Waynus1971 wrote:Waynus, maybe so, but PJ didn't have the support of Richmond and the dispute is well documented, hence Europe did not interest him. If you've not heard all the different rumours have a look. http://www.boyfrombr azil.co.uk/bradford- city-history/the-rea l-reason-why-paul-je well-left-bradford-c ity/ Finally Inter-toto cup is not anywhere as tempting as Europa LeagueAndrew_ide wrote: Everyone is clearly forgetting one thing, including Pardew. If City win, then they are in Europe next season! I would be surprised to see Parky go before having a crack at Europe, it would have to be a good offer.It didn't stop Jagger from quitting on us before having a crack at the big boys of Europe..!
My point is, whatever the pull, there is always a 'pull' in the opposite direction. If PP really wants to stay and finish the job (like he has said), then Europe or not, he should stay. As long as we can meet his demands and I'm not just thinking financially, I'm sure he will sign the contract.
As Pardew stated above, PP had better options but turned them down to join City. We obviously had some pulling power - what's changed?
In relation to your comment about the Inter-Toto Cup, do you realise that the winner of that competition gained entry into the same competition that we would get into should we win on Sunday? No, the Inter-Toto cup wasn't as prestigious, but for the winner, it was - just like it will be for the winner on Sunday. In fact, the winner of the Inter-Toto earned a place directly into the UEFA Cup, whereas, even if we do pull off a miracle on Sunday, we still have to qualify for the Europa League. As such, we could say (in that respect) winning the Inter-Toto was actually better than winning the League Cup final.

Michael Clayton says...
8:55am Tue 19 Feb 13