Lawn: Candidates queuing up to replace McCall (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

A BIG NO NO to Peter Jackson,I am afraid that if the directors appoint Jackson they will inflict further damage to our club following the comments attributed to Jackson whilst at Huddersfield,so please Messrs RHODES and LAWN no Peter Jackson

I would agree, a big no to Peter Jackson.

I couldn't believe some of the rubbish he used to spout when he was at Huddersfield and as an ex Bradford man and a captain at a time not too long after i first started watching City, i found it particularly hard to swallow.

More pertinently than that though is his record at this level. He took Huddersfield up once, which everyone seems to hark back to as though that makes him some great manager, what has he done since then? Not a lot!

He was found out at the higher level and since then has done nothing. We don't need someone coming in talking the talk, we need someone who's walked the walk not just at this level but further up the leagues too and Jackson is not that man for me.

tony e wrote:
A BIG NO NO to Peter Jackson,I am afraid that if the directors appoint Jackson they will inflict further damage to our club following the comments attributed to Jackson whilst at Huddersfield,so please Messrs RHODES and LAWN no Peter Jackson

Get real, it's about his credentials for the job, not some throw away comment he may have made a few years ago just to stir up some interest ahead of a derby against the TB's.

Like i said when everyone was shouting for Stu only the dross are going to apply i for one only want someone of Peter Taylors calibre. He even dropped into non-league so i'm sure he's worth a punt. JACKO-NO WAY WINDASS-NO WAY and all the other league 3 months success merry-go-round managers NEED NOT APPLY EITHER. Get it right Rhodes and Lawn or it might be the boardroom that bears the brunt next time. Theres no point saving the clubs life to let it slowly die is there

We don't want another useless manager like the one we just got rid of. Was a useless manager and player.

It has to be Steve Cotterill for me. He has managed to get a team out of this division before. He has good experience higher up the league at Burnley, Stoke and Sunderland and also knows non-league football very well. As Lawn says, they have to get this decision right.

Spleen Ventor. Please expand on Jacksons credentials ? apart from one promotion with Huddersfield

howard.naylor wrote:
We don't want another useless manager like the one we just got rid of. Was a useless manager and player.

Howie, talk sense for once. Your Beeston Utd boys had better watch out as they have let it slip lately.

BD16 wrote:

howard.naylor wrote: We don't want another useless manager like the one we just got rid of. Was a useless manager and player.

Howie, talk sense for once. Your Beeston Utd boys had better watch out as they have let it slip lately.

Howard! what are you on! Stuart was a fantastic player, this article is not even about his capabilities as a player. Think your just trying to get a rise out of people and it's worked....Plonker!

gasbird wrote:

BD16 wrote:

howard.naylor wrote: We don't want another useless manager like the one we just got rid of. Was a useless manager and player.

Howie, talk sense for once. Your Beeston Utd boys had better watch out as they have let it slip lately.

Howard! what are you on! Stuart was a fantastic player, this article is not even about his capabilities as a player. Think your just trying to get a rise out of people and it's worked....Plonker!

Just don't bother with him. He's a sad man from Cleck and his even sadder teams are the Rhinos, who had a good start to the season, and Beeston AFC.

THIS IS POOR REPORTING BY SIMON PARKER!!
Who on earth did he talk to with regard PAUL JEWEL???
I spoke to Paul 2 weeks ago ..........AND HE SAID.....He wanted to get back to Management!, he was looking for a challenge (They dont come bigger than City!!) AND he wanted to be given time!!!!..........NO
W THAT WAS 2 WEEKS AGO!!!!!
PLUS .........HE also said it wouldnt be about MONEY (hes got plenty!!...Im saying that bit).
SO GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT PARKER!!!!!!!!!!!

tony e wrote:
Spleen Ventor. Please expand on Jacksons credentials ? apart from one promotion with Huddersfield

Well it's one more promotion than our last manager managed in three attempts!
Anyway I wasn't saying Peter Jackson should be the next manager, just ANY candidate should be judged on his skills and credentials, not something he may have said a long time ago that may have upset a few people.

shaun from richmond wrote:
THIS IS POOR REPORTING BY SIMON PARKER!! Who on earth did he talk to with regard PAUL JEWEL??? I spoke to Paul 2 weeks ago ..........AND HE SAID.....He wanted to get back to Management!, he was looking for a challenge (They dont come bigger than City!!) AND he wanted to be given time!!!!..........NO W THAT WAS 2 WEEKS AGO!!!!! PLUS .........HE also said it wouldnt be about MONEY (hes got plenty!!...Im saying that bit). SO GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT PARKER!!!!!!!!!!!

Shaun, you are getting boring now, you hate Simon Parker so what, if it bothers you that much don,t read it, Paul Jewell back at City......yeah right !

Surprised no-one has commented on the team spirit from Sat as omar and flynn were going for each other at half time ?? A team fighting each other on the pitch is not good viewing. A strong leader is required to sort this team out. A manager,- not a mate and someone who will bring discipline and pride to the dressing room.

spleen ventor wrote:

tony e wrote: Spleen Ventor. Please expand on Jacksons credentials ? apart from one promotion with Huddersfield

Well it's one more promotion than our last manager managed in three attempts! Anyway I wasn't saying Peter Jackson should be the next manager, just ANY candidate should be judged on his skills and credentials, not something he may have said a long time ago that may have upset a few people.

Jackson was a success (twice) at Town making steady improvement all of the time. However, he had limited success at Lincoln and would not excite me as City manager. Why people keep harpding on about his comments about City when he was Town manager is pathetic. Jackson was a fantastic City player and Captain and deserves respect for that. He also said that he hoped City won promotion to the Prem after we lost at home to Hudds that season. Just grow up.

The board need to look beyond ex-players or those associated with the club and find someone who can manage a football team. the BPA boss might be a good shout.

It's pretty noticeable that Lawn can't even bring himself to say thank you to McCall for his efforts. How come he is willing to talk to the press again!

This has nothing to do with my team the rinos. It is that you lot haven't a clue what you are talking about when it comes to quality. he was always useless and always will be. Rugbys the game and howards the name. Up the rinos losers.

....i'd love it if you were right about Jewell but i cant see it but by the sounds of it you know more then me on this front so if thats what you say then i'll beleive ya.
Dowie, Cotterill will these people even consider coming to VP?? I agree that it copuld be a fantastic job for somebody to rebuild their career but is the money there?? that is the question.....if so then i think many managers will want to come.

Give charlie job lets face the facts no matter who we get in till end of the season no promotion to worry about and no relegation so untill the end of the season its going to be bore to watch

paul jewel was on talk sport this morning at 9am,eh stated "i want back into football,i still have the hunger and fire in my belly". for god sake if we want to keep max season ticker holders NO TO TOWN FAN JACKO

howard.naylor wrote:
This has nothing to do with my team the rinos. It is that you lot haven't a clue what you are talking about when it comes to quality. he was always useless and always will be. Rugbys the game and howards the name. Up the rinos losers.

You love your rugby that much that you cannot even spell RHINOS...........up the rinos losers,what a t*t

Is it too early to be chanting "JACKO OUT!"...

We need strong leadership on and off the pitch..would a temp player/manager of capable defensive qualities be able to give us the push we need for the rest of this season..?

No to Jacko,We dont't want Tommy Coopers love child in charge it's like a comedy at the club already

Bantam58 wrote:

howard.naylor wrote: This has nothing to do with my team the rinos. It is that you lot haven't a clue what you are talking about when it comes to quality. he was always useless and always will be. Rugbys the game and howards the name. Up the rinos losers.

You love your rugby that much that you cannot even spell RHINOS...........up the rinos losers,what a t*t

Here here Bantam 58, Get a life Howie!!!!!

I agree with the no to Jacko comments. He was a good player & leader for us but unfortunately like Stuart not a manager. How about Peter Taylor or Steve Cotterill/ They have both done it before at this and higher levels

Chris Wilder or Martin Foyle. Both doing fantastic jobs in non-league. Both experienced ex pros. Foyle even lives locally and as plenty of great managers is a striker.

Not Peter Jackson.
What has he ever done to warrant any interest from a club expressing interest in progression.
A poor manager and a greasy-haired traitor.
Off with his head!

Looking at this situation from afar, the actions of the joint-Chairman - Lawn are troubling. There seems to be this "fad" these days of Chairmen getting too vocal in what's going on at the club. Supporters are interested in hearing the Chair"people" speak, but not consistently, and not always about the team. It's not every club that has a Chair like Niall Quinn at Sunderland for example who can discuss team affairs with some degree of accuracy.

I also find it a poor reflection on Lawn that he can't come out and say thanks for Stu's efforts. Whether he was a good or bad Manager for BCFC over the last 3 years, one thing is obvious and that was that he was trying. Lawn just seems to try my patience - there's something terribly irritating about him - like we should be eternally thankful to him for putting in money to "save" the club.

I believe in previous posters that the way to go is to get someone quite unconnected with the club to come in now. We've tried the past "legends", let's get a new focus and some new ideas. We all know we want a guy who can get us out of this division - just god help us if Lawn comes in with "here's my mate I'm giving a job to for the next few months" - the bug question is can he get the right man? Does he have the abilities to pull in the kind of person we want?

Security word - also vote - I wish we all could!!

sjrobbo wrote:
paul jewel was on talk sport this morning at 9am,eh stated "i want back into football,i still have the hunger and fire in my belly". for god sake if we want to keep max season ticker holders NO TO TOWN FAN JACKO

Get on the phone Mr Lawn if that is correct even if it's until the end of the season to wet his appetite and could work out well for all involved. He may like and sign long term or from his personal point of view will maybe put him back in the shop window... I'm sure it would help sell more season tickets when they are put back on sale.

Jacko's a no no 4 me also....

1 - jewel
2 - Peter Taylor
3 - Steve Cotterill

me and my mate spud life long city fans now exiled in blackpool, would like lawn to start being a chairman instead of playing one! go for aidy boothroyd or steve cotrill, or for a good push and another 5000 on the gate bring jagger back, iam suprised that lawn hasn,t put himself forward, we need the board to stop spitting there dummies out and get behind the team, lawn not thanking mcall for the last three years just goes to show what a sulking baby he is

Gaffer: Steven clarage
assistant: nicky Law
Kit manager: barry wood


Dream team :
Big Don
steve williams
mark bower (C)
matty clark
alan rogers
jermain johnson
furman
Bridge wilkinson
lee Holme's
dean windass
Bruce Dyer

Bench:
Big stan C
wayne jacobs
Nathen Dyer
peter begrie
andy Obrian
russel Howerth

Pipe n smoke it !

1- Paul Jewell
2- Peter Taylor
3- Jim Magilton

vglimmer wrote:
Jacko's a no no 4 me also.... 1 - jewel 2 - Peter Taylor 3 - Steve Cotterill

Defo but i wud swap Steve cotterill for Chris Wilder. Would love love to see Jewel back

Ok here's my take. For a short term till end of season appointment you won't get the sort of quality that many fans expect. I know now we won't make the play offs so what where really looking at is someone to steady the ship. Jacobs is a real no no I don't rate him as any sort of coach let alone a manager. Weatherall no he tried at the higher level and was unable to inspire like he once did on the pitch. Seen as I see that as being McCall's big problem (being unable to transfer his passion for the club on to the players) then don't bother. I don't actually think Jackson would be a bad short term solution for us, and I believe that we could then try to maybe get Taylor or someone and have time to work on them before the summer. If then in the interim Jackson does well fair enough give him a chance thats how Jewell was found after all, and Nigel Adkins at Scunthorpe was discovered that way and he has done very well for them. Whoever comes I just hope we can all look at it with an open mind and think ok so you don't have the greatest record but we will never the less give you the benefit of the doubt and support you in trying to perform well for us. Thats the real hope from me, giving whoever comes in a fair crack of the whip and if they fail then bash them.

teamtalk.com says that coleman has no contract at accrington, no compansation to pay! no brainer
http://www.teamtalk.
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kimbo slice wrote:
Gaffer: Steven clarage assistant: nicky Law Kit manager: barry wood Dream team : Big Don steve williams mark bower (C) matty clark alan rogers jermain johnson furman Bridge wilkinson lee Holme's dean windass Bruce Dyer Bench: Big stan C wayne jacobs Nathen Dyer peter begrie andy Obrian russel Howerth Pipe n smoke it !

Another half wit t*t that cannot spell, are you a mate of the guy that supports the "rinos" or a "gienntts" flan !!!! Talk about leaving yourself wide open. clarage ? nathen ? begrie ? Obrian ? russel Howerth ?

LAWN OUT!!!!!!

CTID

cityd wrote:
teamtalk.com says that coleman has no contract at accrington, no compansation to pay! no brainer http://www.teamtalk. com/football/story/0 ,16368,1815_5928098, 00.html

i couldn't agree more!!! surely he would jump at the chance to progress his career and i cant imagine wages been a stumbling block and the main plus is that he is used to working on a small budget.

gspot wrote:

cityd wrote: teamtalk.com says that coleman has no contract at accrington, no compansation to pay! no brainer http://www.teamtalk. com/football/story/0 ,16368,1815_5928098, 00.html

i couldn't agree more!!! surely he would jump at the chance to progress his career and i cant imagine wages been a stumbling block and the main plus is that he is used to working on a small budget.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't have a look at this guy Coleman, but what do we know about him? Doing a good job on a small budget with no expectations is one thing going to a big ground with a large fan base and high expextations is another. Personally I think we need experience at this stage, just to steady the ship and sort out the contract issues that will be coming up with players at the end of the year. When you consider that a lot of the higher earners will be out of contract in the summer we will need somebody who can do a bit of ego juggling and wheeling and dealing in the transfer market.

Kevin keegan ?

Kevin keegan ?

BD16 wrote:

gspot wrote:

cityd wrote: teamtalk.com says that coleman has no contract at accrington, no compansation to pay! no brainer http://www.teamtalk. com/football/story/0 ,16368,1815_5928098, 00.html

i couldn't agree more!!! surely he would jump at the chance to progress his career and i cant imagine wages been a stumbling block and the main plus is that he is used to working on a small budget.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't have a look at this guy Coleman, but what do we know about him? Doing a good job on a small budget with no expectations is one thing going to a big ground with a large fan base and high expextations is another. Personally I think we need experience at this stage, just to steady the ship and sort out the contract issues that will be coming up with players at the end of the year. When you consider that a lot of the higher earners will be out of contract in the summer we will need somebody who can do a bit of ego juggling and wheeling and dealing in the transfer market.

10 years at the same club is enough experience for me. Everytime i've seen Accrington they've played decent football and especially 2 seasons ago when we made them look like Real Madrid.
As regards to the high expectations i really think us fans need to be realisitic as to what we shoulld and can expect, i'm not saying we should settle for mid/lower table finishes but we are where we are for many reasons.

they hinted last night on't telly that it Deano was lined up for the post. Erm, he never appeared the brightest lad to me but whoever gets the job needs supporting abusing. hoeevr i can understand a Jacko out chant at his first game in charge.

Nice of Lawn to say thanks for McCall's undoubted 100% efforts. In fact he even attempts a dig and makes out that he was gonna sack him anyway. The guy is turning into a pig-headed so n so. Nice to hear him finally speak though. now start lets hearing some truth.

paul jewell 4 me..................
..the jewel in the crown CTID

the chant on saturday should be "" GET LAWN OUT"" and before anybody starts saying lawns done this n that for us just remember lawn has only ever loaned the club money, not given it us like people seam to think, also he has undermined the manager and made 2 crap signings, topp and zesh

There have been plenty of know-it-alls on this website telling SMcC how to do the job so maybe that is the answer and appoint one of our own. We could even get 2storey of Leeds to job share at VP.

It is a disgrace that Lawn has not publicly thanked Stuart. The arrogance of this man. Disrespectful to Stuart and disrespectful to the fans. His attitude seems to be pay up and shut up!

seasidebantam wrote:
me and my mate spud life long city fans now exiled in blackpool, would like lawn to start being a chairman instead of playing one! go for aidy boothroyd or steve cotrill, or for a good push and another 5000 on the gate bring jagger back, iam suprised that lawn hasn,t put himself forward, we need the board to stop spitting there dummies out and get behind the team, lawn not thanking mcall for the last three years just goes to show what a sulking baby he is

and mccall thank lawn for paying his wages for the last 3 years, NO

Some might say it's a question of manners, he is supposed to be joint chaiman!

cityd wrote:
the chant on saturday should be "" GET LAWN OUT"" and before anybody starts saying lawns done this n that for us just remember lawn has only ever loaned the club money, not given it us like people seam to think, also he has undermined the manager and made 2 crap signings, topp and zesh

Yeh good idea, start that and i am sure he will taking his LOANED money with him and then we have no football club, brilliant idea,i also dont blame him not to mention mccall did he mention his name,

IM NOT SURE I GET ALL THIS ANTI-LAWN STUFF!!
Lawn and McCall fell out because McCall wouldnt bring in an experieced Coach!............IF McCall had, he would still be Manager of Bradford City!!!
JEWELL IN!!

Cardiff wrote:
Some might say it's a question of manners, he is supposed to be joint chaiman!

did i miss julian thanking him, NO

windasboy wrote:

cityd wrote: the chant on saturday should be "" GET LAWN OUT"" and before anybody starts saying lawns done this n that for us just remember lawn has only ever loaned the club money, not given it us like people seam to think, also he has undermined the manager and made 2 crap signings, topp and zesh

Yeh good idea, start that and i am sure he will taking his LOANED money with him and then we have no football club, brilliant idea,i also dont blame him not to mention mccall did he mention his name,

Heavens you are not Dean Windass are you? Plse no to Deano as caretaker manager.

cityd wrote:
the chant on saturday should be "" GET LAWN OUT"" and before anybody starts saying lawns done this n that for us just remember lawn has only ever loaned the club money, not given it us like people seam to think, also he has undermined the manager and made 2 crap signings, topp and zesh

Allegedly made two crap signings. You have yet to prove that one.

As for all his money being loans. I think you will find he BOUGHT a share of the club in order for Rhodes to pay off the remaining debt. The figure varies from source to source, but is believed to be between £2m and £5m.

This wasn't a loan, it was a PURCHASE of shares. Yes, he has since 'loaned' us £1m to help us repay our debts of last season (subsequently repaid from the Delph proceeds, but the loan hasn't been withdrawn and is still sat in our bank account). When was Rhodes' last 'investment'?

However, the one thing I will agree on is his disregard for the service Stuart gave. Now that was disgraceful.

If you want lawn out, start a chant;

"Wayne Jacobs' Bradford Army, we want lawn out!"

See where that gets us!

windasboy wrote:

Cardiff wrote: Some might say it's a question of manners, he is supposed to be joint chaiman!

did i miss julian thanking him, NO

Lawn sets himself up as the PR guy, the public face of City. Unfortunately many fans are sick of only seeing him in print telling us that he has invested his kids' inheritance in City and slagging off the fans if they dare to comment on aspects of the way this club is run. If he treat the fans as customers and not just season ticket fodder he might earn more respect.

with regards the chairmen falling out why were they both having a drink in a pub in guiseley last night, along with john hendrie, john left them probably to go and do the football late show

A good call for Coleman from Aldershot, although i'd like to see Cotterill or Taylor at VP now rather than waiting til the summer, too much valuable time lost to my mind, again i'l say it, lets start gearing up for next season now and have the new manager casting his eye over our current squad so he's a step ahead in the summer and knows exactly where he need's to srengthen. Just makes complete sense to me.

Waynus71 wrote:

cityd wrote: the chant on saturday should be "" GET LAWN OUT"" and before anybody starts saying lawns done this n that for us just remember lawn has only ever loaned the club money, not given it us like people seam to think, also he has undermined the manager and made 2 crap signings, topp and zesh

Allegedly made two crap signings. You have yet to prove that one. As for all his money being loans. I think you will find he BOUGHT a share of the club in order for Rhodes to pay off the remaining debt. The figure varies from source to source, but is believed to be between £2m and £5m. This wasn't a loan, it was a PURCHASE of shares. Yes, he has since 'loaned' us £1m to help us repay our debts of last season (subsequently repaid from the Delph proceeds, but the loan hasn't been withdrawn and is still sat in our bank account). When was Rhodes' last 'investment'? However, the one thing I will agree on is his disregard for the service Stuart gave. Now that was disgraceful. If you want lawn out, start a chant; "Wayne Jacobs' Bradford Army, we want lawn out!" See where that gets us!

your figures are way way way off the mark (no pun intended lol) and your little story is wrong. it is pointless talking to you about anything as it is obvious you think you kno what your on about but actually kno nothing!

cityd wrote:

Waynus71 wrote:

cityd wrote: the chant on saturday should be "" GET LAWN OUT"" and before anybody starts saying lawns done this n that for us just remember lawn has only ever loaned the club money, not given it us like people seam to think, also he has undermined the manager and made 2 crap signings, topp and zesh

Allegedly made two crap signings. You have yet to prove that one. As for all his money being loans. I think you will find he BOUGHT a share of the club in order for Rhodes to pay off the remaining debt. The figure varies from source to source, but is believed to be between £2m and £5m. This wasn't a loan, it was a PURCHASE of shares. Yes, he has since 'loaned' us £1m to help us repay our debts of last season (subsequently repaid from the Delph proceeds, but the loan hasn't been withdrawn and is still sat in our bank account). When was Rhodes' last 'investment'? However, the one thing I will agree on is his disregard for the service Stuart gave. Now that was disgraceful. If you want lawn out, start a chant; "Wayne Jacobs' Bradford Army, we want lawn out!" See where that gets us!

your figures are way way way off the mark (no pun intended lol) and your little story is wrong. it is pointless talking to you about anything as it is obvious you think you kno what your on about but actually kno nothing!

Nowt unusual there then.

NO to Jacko. Hes Blue & White. He would not unite this clubs fans. Also why the mention of Ronnie Jepson as well in the article? Are we becoming some sort of sad huddersfield retirement village? Laughing stock.

Not sure what to make of the headline “Lawn candidates are queuing up” the man has only resigned a day ago, have these people been primed before hand or is it the out of work dross that have failed at other clubs throwing their names in. Is it too early to form a Jacko out chant? On another forum, a Hudders fan states Jacko was only successful with Yorath, on his own rubbish, is that why he failed at Lincoln? We need a new face with no history with the club, someone to start now and build with the good players we have not wait until the season end and start from scratch, we have done this the past three seasons and it hasn’t worked.

cityd wrote:

Waynus71 wrote:

cityd wrote: the chant on saturday should be "" GET LAWN OUT"" and before anybody starts saying lawns done this n that for us just remember lawn has only ever loaned the club money, not given it us like people seam to think, also he has undermined the manager and made 2 crap signings, topp and zesh

Allegedly made two crap signings. You have yet to prove that one. As for all his money being loans. I think you will find he BOUGHT a share of the club in order for Rhodes to pay off the remaining debt. The figure varies from source to source, but is believed to be between £2m and £5m. This wasn't a loan, it was a PURCHASE of shares. Yes, he has since 'loaned' us £1m to help us repay our debts of last season (subsequently repaid from the Delph proceeds, but the loan hasn't been withdrawn and is still sat in our bank account). When was Rhodes' last 'investment'? However, the one thing I will agree on is his disregard for the service Stuart gave. Now that was disgraceful. If you want lawn out, start a chant; "Wayne Jacobs' Bradford Army, we want lawn out!" See where that gets us!

your figures are way way way off the mark (no pun intended lol) and your little story is wrong. it is pointless talking to you about anything as it is obvious you think you kno what your on about but actually kno nothing!

"A delighted Rhodes said: "This last five years has been all about reaching this solvent state and we are finally there. We've got rid of all the debts apart from a small overdraft facility.

It doesn't mean there's going to be millions of pounds chucked at the team but it does give us a bit more financial stability and allows the resources we do generate within the club to go towards building the team.

It's been a tough few years and Mark's involvement will help tremendously because we now have two people supporting the club financially.

Mark is an avid Bradford City fan who, by his own admission, isn't in this to make money. He has got involved for all the right motives.

I'm quite happy to be in a joint position and it will be good to have somebody else to talk to and share the decisions. Of course there will be times when we don't agree but good partnerships are all about balance".

THEY NOW APPEAR TO HAVE HAD ONE OF THOSE DISAGREEMENTS, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN LAWN IS ANY LESS HONOURABLE AS RHODES KNEW HIM TO BE.

Mark Lawn invested a seven figure sum many belive to be between £2m and £5m for a 49% share in Bradford City, leaving Rhodes as the majority shareholder. This money was used to wipe away all the remaining debts we had left. That money has gone and Lawn will probably never see it again.

Then before the last season had begun, Lawn & Rhodes decided to help McCall by pushing the boat out and they gave him an extra £700k to play with, knowing we would have losses by doing so. The campaign did not go so well and the 'push' backfired, leaving us with big losses.

In March of last season, Lawn then ploughed in a £1m loan. He didn't come out and announce this, it was Rhodes that did so;

"It’s a very brave thing for Mark to do in the current economic climate and I just think the supporters should know.

At the start of the season we were budgeting for a loss because we pushed the boat out trying to get promotion. There’s not too many who are prepared to put the money in but once again Mark has come up trumps. This isn’t for next season – it will be used to fund this one as well as any previous losses”.

Lawn then added a few days later, " “I’ve certainly backed the club as far as I can go now. The million I’ve put in is it. If we don’t get the number of season-tickets, we haven’t got money to spend on the players. That’s the reality.

Realistically who do they think is going to put money in? I’ve put mine in, Julian’s put his in, is there going to be a tooth fairy? No.

One thing this club will not do again is overspend. We will spend within our budgets unless we get another investor and I don’t think there’s many of them out there in this current climate.

I’ll get people slagging me off and I understand that".

Then, when Delph was sold by Leeds and City received in excess of £600k, the joint Chairmen used the money to repay the debt from the previous season, i.e the increased wage bill. There were no false promises that this season's budget would not be affected by their 'push' as some have indicated. If that was the case, McCall would have had to build a squad with just £700k!

Instead, the budget was reverted back to plan, i.e. the amount that our 'cheap season ticket' would allow for. Do we want to get into debt every season so we can then accuse Lawn of doing a Richmond and leaving us for dead? I for one wouldn't want the Chairmen to over-spend. McCall was given a good enough budget to build a squad and overall, I think he has done a decent job.

Both Chairmen have said that the 'loan' is still in our bank account and is being used to manage our cash-flow. No doubt, some of that money will now be used to pay McCall's settlement and eventually, when the new boss is appointed, Jakes' settlement too.

Now I have backed up my 'little story', where is your proof of Lawn's signings????

Farsley XI wrote:
Not sure what to make of the headline “Lawn candidates are queuing up” the man has only resigned a day ago, have these people been primed before hand or is it the out of work dross that have failed at other clubs throwing their names in. Is it too early to form a Jacko out chant? On another forum, a Hudders fan states Jacko was only successful with Yorath, on his own rubbish, is that why he failed at Lincoln? We need a new face with no history with the club, someone to start now and build with the good players we have not wait until the season end and start from scratch, we have done this the past three seasons and it hasn’t worked.

i agree...john coleman would be my shout

Waynus71 wrote:

cityd wrote: the chant on saturday should be "" GET LAWN OUT"" and before anybody starts saying lawns done this n that for us just remember lawn has only ever loaned the club money, not given it us like people seam to think, also he has undermined the manager and made 2 crap signings, topp and zesh

Allegedly made two crap signings. You have yet to prove that one. As for all his money being loans. I think you will find he BOUGHT a share of the club in order for Rhodes to pay off the remaining debt. The figure varies from source to source, but is believed to be between £2m and £5m. This wasn't a loan, it was a PURCHASE of shares. Yes, he has since 'loaned' us £1m to help us repay our debts of last season (subsequently repaid from the Delph proceeds, but the loan hasn't been withdrawn and is still sat in our bank account). When was Rhodes' last 'investment'? However, the one thing I will agree on is his disregard for the service Stuart gave. Now that was disgraceful. If you want lawn out, start a chant; "Wayne Jacobs' Bradford Army, we want lawn out!" See where that gets us!

Not entirely what this achieves. Almost as constructive as firing bullets on this message board. To be fair on the directors they need the opportunity to speak out and frankly a fans forum would be an optimal setting. On Saturday we need to get behind the team AND Wayne Jacobs.

I think it's a futile exercise 'ruling in/out 'candidates for the City job, based around so-called perceived loyalties to another team, whether it be Huddersfield, Leeds or anybody. The manager who gets the job, be it Peter Jackson or Steve Cotterall or 'An Other' will, like Stuart McCall, try his best to bring success to City. If he IS successful, it doesn't matter about his background/previous allegiances, we'll all be delighted..won't we??!!

thinks both chairmen love the club and in them we trust to do the best for the club including the selection of the new manager and budget wise. the last thing i owuld want would be a unaffordable spending spree which could damage the club once and for all.
some points have been raised about lawn but none of us can actually say they haven't got the clubs best interests at heart.

the following is a selection of available managers available from the lma website

tony adams
martin allen
john barnes
george burley
mark cooper
steve cotterill*
peter jackson
jim magilton
paul hart
jimmy quinn
andy ritchie
lawrie sanchez*
russell slade
peter taylor*
stan ternant*
dennis wise

i wonder how many of these guys will be in the frame?

peter taylor for me

I just hope we don't appoint an ex-City player as the long term replacement. We need someone who can make decisions ruled by their head and not the heart.

Lawn is right about us needing to make sure we make the right replacement. To me the reason we haven't benefitted from changing managers in the past, is not because it wasn't the right thing to do, but that we hadn't found the right replacement.

I've said many times on here, that I would go for Steve Cotterill and Peter Taylor, in that order. Both have a proven track record of achieving promotion from this Division.

I can only assume that by choosing to appoint an interim manager, the board feel there will be a better choice of candidates available in the summer.

The only problem with this, is that you risk the likes of the above 2 being snapped up by other clubs.

gordon ramsay wrote:
the following is a selection of available managers available from the lma website tony adams martin allen john barnes george burley mark cooper steve cotterill* peter jackson jim magilton paul hart jimmy quinn andy ritchie lawrie sanchez* russell slade peter taylor* stan ternant* dennis wise i wonder how many of these guys will be in the frame? peter taylor for me

My choice from this list in order
George Burley
Peter Taylor
Martin Allen
I know they have said short term replacement and if so I think it will be Dolan (not my choice)
However if the RIGHT person is interviewed now surely we wont risk this person been no longer available in the summer?

windasboy wrote:
with regards the chairmen falling out why were they both having a drink in a pub in guiseley last night, along with john hendrie, john left them probably to go and do the football late show

before there alcoholics ha,ha!!
would John Hendrie come in till end of season?
Very intelligent bloke and knows current squad.

meant because not before

howard.naylor wrote:
This has nothing to do with my team the rinos. It is that you lot haven't a clue what you are talking about when it comes to quality. he was always useless and always will be. Rugbys the game and howards the name. Up the rinos losers.

Yeah! Right up em.

some of the names mentioned won,t be interested in coming to you because without a doubt you are non-league next year..you are very lucky to escape this year....
up the avenue

wibsey lad wrote:
some of the names mentioned won,t be interested in coming to you because without a doubt you are non-league next year..you are very lucky to escape this year.... up the avenue

And despite the success of BPA they will again realise that they face a fundamental glass ceiling to progress much further than where they are now. Never exactly attracted the crowds have they? Even if City did plummet to the Conference our gates would remain well in excess of those at Horsfall. Right up the avenue!

gordon ramsay wrote:
the following is a selection of available managers available from the lma website tony adams martin allen john barnes george burley mark cooper steve cotterill* peter jackson jim magilton paul hart jimmy quinn andy ritchie lawrie sanchez* russell slade peter taylor* stan ternant* dennis wise i wonder how many of these guys will be in the frame? peter taylor for me

I don't understand why any of these would take an interim job. 3 months pay at League Two rates is not going to tempt most of the above to relocate to a dump like Bradford. Realistically we're left with someone local and either very skint or very inexperienced or both.

I would have thought we need to offer a full time position to allow the rest of the season for the manager to familiarise himself with the players and look around at who else might be available in summer ready for us to be competitive next season. If we get someone in until May, then another new manager we'll be right back where we were wen Stuart was appointed in the summer and had to hurriedly cobble a squad together from all the players no one else wanted.

So much for learning from our mistakes.

thecitygent wrote:

wibsey lad wrote: some of the names mentioned won,t be interested in coming to you because without a doubt you are non-league next year..you are very lucky to escape this year.... up the avenue

And despite the success of BPA they will again realise that they face a fundamental glass ceiling to progress much further than where they are now. Never exactly attracted the crowds have they? Even if City did plummet to the Conference our gates would remain well in excess of those at Horsfall. Right up the avenue!

what would city gate be without all the free tickets issued.
bet you could halve "best supported team in division" claim

wibsey lad wrote:

thecitygent wrote:

wibsey lad wrote: some of the names mentioned won,t be interested in coming to you because without a doubt you are non-league next year..you are very lucky to escape this year.... up the avenue

And despite the success of BPA they will again realise that they face a fundamental glass ceiling to progress much further than where they are now. Never exactly attracted the crowds have they? Even if City did plummet to the Conference our gates would remain well in excess of those at Horsfall. Right up the avenue!

what would city gate be without all the free tickets issued. bet you could halve "best supported team in division" claim

Is that why Mr Blackburn is offering half price tickets to fans of city halifax hudds, bulls and rhinos, even halved our attendences would only be bettered by Notts County

wibsey lad wrote:

thecitygent wrote:

wibsey lad wrote: some of the names mentioned won,t be interested in coming to you because without a doubt you are non-league next year..you are very lucky to escape this year.... up the avenue

And despite the success of BPA they will again realise that they face a fundamental glass ceiling to progress much further than where they are now. Never exactly attracted the crowds have they? Even if City did plummet to the Conference our gates would remain well in excess of those at Horsfall. Right up the avenue!

what would city gate be without all the free tickets issued. bet you could halve "best supported team in division" claim

And what would the average BPA crowd be even if they gave away free tickets? I have a lot of respect for the Avenue and wish them well but childish prats like you with your playground mentality do annoy.

Are you a friend of Howard Naylor who lives in Cleckheaton? If not introduce yourself, you have a lot in common.

There's been a lot of comment re- Lawn not thanking Stuart, yet these comments were reported by the BBC on Monday!

http://news.bbc.co.u
k/sport1/hi/football
/teams/b/bradford_ci
ty/8504480.stm

wibsey lad wrote:

thecitygent wrote:

wibsey lad wrote: some of the names mentioned won,t be interested in coming to you because without a doubt you are non-league next year..you are very lucky to escape this year.... up the avenue

And despite the success of BPA they will again realise that they face a fundamental glass ceiling to progress much further than where they are now. Never exactly attracted the crowds have they? Even if City did plummet to the Conference our gates would remain well in excess of those at Horsfall. Right up the avenue!

what would city gate be without all the free tickets issued. bet you could halve "best supported team in division" claim

Avenue's big problem is that a large proportion of their extremely modest crowds are old guys with childhood memories of BPA in the FL (NB this year is the 40th anniversary of their expulsion). Not the basis for the future if you ask me. Besides to go back to the debate of the 50's and 60's can Bradford support two major football clubs. At the moment it has difficulty supporting one. The Stans' dreams of a return to the 'glory days' are simply deluded. And apart from a solitary promotion season in 1961 I am not sure that BPA had that many glory days - in fact their last four seasons in the FL are best forgotten. Good luck to them but a lost cause if you ask me. They'll only hit another glass ceiling if they get promoted this season anyway.

...sorry I don't give BPA credit for being a Division One club before the first great depression. But post 1950 they didn't do anything!

Waynus71 wrote:

cityd wrote:

Waynus71 wrote:

cityd wrote: the chant on saturday should be "" GET LAWN OUT"" and before anybody starts saying lawns done this n that for us just remember lawn has only ever loaned the club money, not given it us like people seam to think, also he has undermined the manager and made 2 crap signings, topp and zesh

Allegedly made two crap signings. You have yet to prove that one. As for all his money being loans. I think you will find he BOUGHT a share of the club in order for Rhodes to pay off the remaining debt. The figure varies from source to source, but is believed to be between £2m and £5m. This wasn't a loan, it was a PURCHASE of shares. Yes, he has since 'loaned' us £1m to help us repay our debts of last season (subsequently repaid from the Delph proceeds, but the loan hasn't been withdrawn and is still sat in our bank account). When was Rhodes' last 'investment'? However, the one thing I will agree on is his disregard for the service Stuart gave. Now that was disgraceful. If you want lawn out, start a chant; "Wayne Jacobs' Bradford Army, we want lawn out!" See where that gets us!

your figures are way way way off the mark (no pun intended lol) and your little story is wrong. it is pointless talking to you about anything as it is obvious you think you kno what your on about but actually kno nothing!

"A delighted Rhodes said: "This last five years has been all about reaching this solvent state and we are finally there. We've got rid of all the debts apart from a small overdraft facility. It doesn't mean there's going to be millions of pounds chucked at the team but it does give us a bit more financial stability and allows the resources we do generate within the club to go towards building the team. It's been a tough few years and Mark's involvement will help tremendously because we now have two people supporting the club financially. Mark is an avid Bradford City fan who, by his own admission, isn't in this to make money. He has got involved for all the right motives. I'm quite happy to be in a joint position and it will be good to have somebody else to talk to and share the decisions. Of course there will be times when we don't agree but good partnerships are all about balance". THEY NOW APPEAR TO HAVE HAD ONE OF THOSE DISAGREEMENTS, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN LAWN IS ANY LESS HONOURABLE AS RHODES KNEW HIM TO BE. Mark Lawn invested a seven figure sum many belive to be between £2m and £5m for a 49% share in Bradford City, leaving Rhodes as the majority shareholder. This money was used to wipe away all the remaining debts we had left. That money has gone and Lawn will probably never see it again. Then before the last season had begun, Lawn & Rhodes decided to help McCall by pushing the boat out and they gave him an extra £700k to play with, knowing we would have losses by doing so. The campaign did not go so well and the 'push' backfired, leaving us with big losses. In March of last season, Lawn then ploughed in a £1m loan. He didn't come out and announce this, it was Rhodes that did so; "It’s a very brave thing for Mark to do in the current economic climate and I just think the supporters should know. At the start of the season we were budgeting for a loss because we pushed the boat out trying to get promotion. There’s not too many who are prepared to put the money in but once again Mark has come up trumps. This isn’t for next season – it will be used to fund this one as well as any previous losses”. Lawn then added a few days later, " “I’ve certainly backed the club as far as I can go now. The million I’ve put in is it. If we don’t get the number of season-tickets, we haven’t got money to spend on the players. That’s the reality. Realistically who do they think is going to put money in? I’ve put mine in, Julian’s put his in, is there going to be a tooth fairy? No. One thing this club will not do again is overspend. We will spend within our budgets unless we get another investor and I don’t think there’s many of them out there in this current climate. I’ll get people slagging me off and I understand that". Then, when Delph was sold by Leeds and City received in excess of £600k, the joint Chairmen used the money to repay the debt from the previous season, i.e the increased wage bill. There were no false promises that this season's budget would not be affected by their 'push' as some have indicated. If that was the case, McCall would have had to build a squad with just £700k! Instead, the budget was reverted back to plan, i.e. the amount that our 'cheap season ticket' would allow for. Do we want to get into debt every season so we can then accuse Lawn of doing a Richmond and leaving us for dead? I for one wouldn't want the Chairmen to over-spend. McCall was given a good enough budget to build a squad and overall, I think he has done a decent job. Both Chairmen have said that the 'loan' is still in our bank account and is being used to manage our cash-flow. No doubt, some of that money will now be used to pay McCall's settlement and eventually, when the new boss is appointed, Jakes' settlement too. Now I have backed up my 'little story', where is your proof of Lawn's signings????

You produce a well researched argument and i genuinely commend you for that. But then you mess it up by saying that McCall has 'done a decent job". So why the heck have you been on his case for the past two seasons? Why did you want him sacked last year when we were in a play-off position at the time?

WAYNUS you can't be doing a decent job and deserve the sack!!!!

This is againn an example of 'double-standards' and 'back-pedalling'. I believe that you do such things knowingly so that you can support/back-up any story you want on any given day

dannbradfc wrote:

Waynus71 wrote:

cityd wrote:

Waynus71 wrote:

cityd wrote: the chant on saturday should be "" GET LAWN OUT"" and before anybody starts saying lawns done this n that for us just remember lawn has only ever loaned the club money, not given it us like people seam to think, also he has undermined the manager and made 2 crap signings, topp and zesh

Allegedly made two crap signings. You have yet to prove that one. As for all his money being loans. I think you will find he BOUGHT a share of the club in order for Rhodes to pay off the remaining debt. The figure varies from source to source, but is believed to be between £2m and £5m. This wasn't a loan, it was a PURCHASE of shares. Yes, he has since 'loaned' us £1m to help us repay our debts of last season (subsequently repaid from the Delph proceeds, but the loan hasn't been withdrawn and is still sat in our bank account). When was Rhodes' last 'investment'? However, the one thing I will agree on is his disregard for the service Stuart gave. Now that was disgraceful. If you want lawn out, start a chant; "Wayne Jacobs' Bradford Army, we want lawn out!" See where that gets us!

your figures are way way way off the mark (no pun intended lol) and your little story is wrong. it is pointless talking to you about anything as it is obvious you think you kno what your on about but actually kno nothing!

"A delighted Rhodes said: "This last five years has been all about reaching this solvent state and we are finally there. We've got rid of all the debts apart from a small overdraft facility. It doesn't mean there's going to be millions of pounds chucked at the team but it does give us a bit more financial stability and allows the resources we do generate within the club to go towards building the team. It's been a tough few years and Mark's involvement will help tremendously because we now have two people supporting the club financially. Mark is an avid Bradford City fan who, by his own admission, isn't in this to make money. He has got involved for all the right motives. I'm quite happy to be in a joint position and it will be good to have somebody else to talk to and share the decisions. Of course there will be times when we don't agree but good partnerships are all about balance". THEY NOW APPEAR TO HAVE HAD ONE OF THOSE DISAGREEMENTS, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN LAWN IS ANY LESS HONOURABLE AS RHODES KNEW HIM TO BE. Mark Lawn invested a seven figure sum many belive to be between £2m and £5m for a 49% share in Bradford City, leaving Rhodes as the majority shareholder. This money was used to wipe away all the remaining debts we had left. That money has gone and Lawn will probably never see it again. Then before the last season had begun, Lawn & Rhodes decided to help McCall by pushing the boat out and they gave him an extra £700k to play with, knowing we would have losses by doing so. The campaign did not go so well and the 'push' backfired, leaving us with big losses. In March of last season, Lawn then ploughed in a £1m loan. He didn't come out and announce this, it was Rhodes that did so; "It’s a very brave thing for Mark to do in the current economic climate and I just think the supporters should know. At the start of the season we were budgeting for a loss because we pushed the boat out trying to get promotion. There’s not too many who are prepared to put the money in but once again Mark has come up trumps. This isn’t for next season – it will be used to fund this one as well as any previous losses”. Lawn then added a few days later, " “I’ve certainly backed the club as far as I can go now. The million I’ve put in is it. If we don’t get the number of season-tickets, we haven’t got money to spend on the players. That’s the reality. Realistically who do they think is going to put money in? I’ve put mine in, Julian’s put his in, is there going to be a tooth fairy? No. One thing this club will not do again is overspend. We will spend within our budgets unless we get another investor and I don’t think there’s many of them out there in this current climate. I’ll get people slagging me off and I understand that". Then, when Delph was sold by Leeds and City received in excess of £600k, the joint Chairmen used the money to repay the debt from the previous season, i.e the increased wage bill. There were no false promises that this season's budget would not be affected by their 'push' as some have indicated. If that was the case, McCall would have had to build a squad with just £700k! Instead, the budget was reverted back to plan, i.e. the amount that our 'cheap season ticket' would allow for. Do we want to get into debt every season so we can then accuse Lawn of doing a Richmond and leaving us for dead? I for one wouldn't want the Chairmen to over-spend. McCall was given a good enough budget to build a squad and overall, I think he has done a decent job. Both Chairmen have said that the 'loan' is still in our bank account and is being used to manage our cash-flow. No doubt, some of that money will now be used to pay McCall's settlement and eventually, when the new boss is appointed, Jakes' settlement too. Now I have backed up my 'little story', where is your proof of Lawn's signings????

You produce a well researched argument and i genuinely commend you for that. But then you mess it up by saying that McCall has 'done a decent job". So why the heck have you been on his case for the past two seasons? Why did you want him sacked last year when we were in a play-off position at the time?

WAYNUS you can't be doing a decent job and deserve the sack!!!!

This is againn an example of 'double-standards' and 'back-pedalling'. I believe that you do such things knowingly so that you can support/back-up any story you want on any given day

Come off it Dann, this is as glaringly obvious a case of picking a fight if ever I saw one.

Read the whole sentence, not just the bit you want. To make it easier for you to comprehend, I will type the missing bits in CAPS for you;

"McCALL WAS GIVEN A GOOD ENOUGH BUDGET TO BUILD A SQUAD AND OVERALL, I think he has done a decent job".

I didn't say he did a decent job of managing a football club, I said he had done a decent job of building a squad with the budget given. His problem was that those players haven't really improved since he signed them.

AND THAT'S MY POINT! (Why do you always look at my posts for something to attack me with? As on other occasions, you have misunderstood my words).