Hartlepool United 0, Bradford City 0 (City win 3-2 on pens)

First published in Sport Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , Bradford City Reporter

Jon McLaughlin saved Evan Horwood’s spot-kick to earn City another dramatic win on penalties in the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy.

The Bantams edged Hartlepool 3-2 in the shoot-out after the game had finished goalless.

McLaughlin had made three important first-half saves to keep out Hartlepool.

McLaughlin, one of the six starters from Saturday to keep their place for City, beat away a fierce volley from Simon Walton after 14 minutes.

He also denied on-loan Middlesbrough striker Charlie Wyke with the best save of the lot from his 27th-minute curler.

And right on half-time, McLaughlin was equal to Ryan Noble’s blast at his near post.

City, playing 4-3-1-2 again, matched their League One hosts in terms of possession but had not tested home keeper Scott Flinders. Garry Thompson fired high and wide after being set up by Alan Connell.

Ritchie Jones made his first appearance of an injury-delayed season. And he almost had a goal against his old club with City’s first real effort after 57 minutes but Flinders tipped over.

As City stepped it up, Jones fired over from another Thompson and Connell link-up and James Hanson headed wide from close range.

McLaughlin saved from Wyke and Flinders denied Nahki Wells, who had come on for Hanson midway through the half.

City nearly snatched it four minutes from time when Thompson’s cross was headed on to the bar by Ricky Ravenhill.

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10:01pm Tue 9 Oct 12

ALEXIMO.56. says...

That will do nicely and now for a home draw in the next round. Now Thompson classes himself as a striker? He misses a sitter in the game and blasts one over the bar from the spot. Keep him on the right wing please. Tonight would have been a great opportunity for Adam Baker to get a run out as he travelled up with e squad. It's these types of games where he should be given the chance to prove himself.
That will do nicely and now for a home draw in the next round. Now Thompson classes himself as a striker? He misses a sitter in the game and blasts one over the bar from the spot. Keep him on the right wing please. Tonight would have been a great opportunity for Adam Baker to get a run out as he travelled up with e squad. It's these types of games where he should be given the chance to prove himself. ALEXIMO.56.
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10:05pm Tue 9 Oct 12

nowt fresh says...

Good to get back to winning ways JPT or not hope this gets the D&R result out of our system and sets us up nicely for York on Saturday for three points :-)).
Good to get back to winning ways JPT or not hope this gets the D&R result out of our system and sets us up nicely for York on Saturday for three points :-)). nowt fresh
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10:09pm Tue 9 Oct 12

macca1969 says...

ALEXIMO.56. wrote:
That will do nicely and now for a home draw in the next round. Now Thompson classes himself as a striker? He misses a sitter in the game and blasts one over the bar from the spot. Keep him on the right wing please. Tonight would have been a great opportunity for Adam Baker to get a run out as he travelled up with e squad. It's these types of games where he should be given the chance to prove himself.
He wasn't the only striker guilty of missing sitters was he? Nice to see James doing his bit also to keep the penalty run going. Also seem to remember James missing a couple of spot kicks in previous shoot outs. The only thing i agree on is Adam Baker should have started, but maybe it was down to the six player rules. All strikers miss chances and wingers (which is what Thompson is) which is why we need another if we are going to maintain our fairly decent start. Players get injured and lose form which i'm afraid has happened with James.
[quote][p][bold]ALEXIMO.56.[/bold] wrote: That will do nicely and now for a home draw in the next round. Now Thompson classes himself as a striker? He misses a sitter in the game and blasts one over the bar from the spot. Keep him on the right wing please. Tonight would have been a great opportunity for Adam Baker to get a run out as he travelled up with e squad. It's these types of games where he should be given the chance to prove himself.[/p][/quote]He wasn't the only striker guilty of missing sitters was he? Nice to see James doing his bit also to keep the penalty run going. Also seem to remember James missing a couple of spot kicks in previous shoot outs. The only thing i agree on is Adam Baker should have started, but maybe it was down to the six player rules. All strikers miss chances and wingers (which is what Thompson is) which is why we need another if we are going to maintain our fairly decent start. Players get injured and lose form which i'm afraid has happened with James. macca1969
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10:55pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Waynus1971 says...

ALEXIMO.56. wrote:
That will do nicely and now for a home draw in the next round. Now Thompson classes himself as a striker? He misses a sitter in the game and blasts one over the bar from the spot. Keep him on the right wing please. Tonight would have been a great opportunity for Adam Baker to get a run out as he travelled up with e squad. It's these types of games where he should be given the chance to prove himself.
That's a bit harsh on Thommo. Yes, he missed a great opportunity, but his game was very good apart from that chance.

I note you side-stepped the, "James Hanson headed wide from close range" comment. He was ONE YARD from goal when he headed wide. Admittedly, he was under pressure, but surely a goalscorer should be getting those on target from so close? Then within 30 seconds, he had another chance and drilled his shot wide.

Yet again, big JH has had plenty of opportunities and failed. Despite that, you attack Thompson who did have a good game.....!
[quote][p][bold]ALEXIMO.56.[/bold] wrote: That will do nicely and now for a home draw in the next round. Now Thompson classes himself as a striker? He misses a sitter in the game and blasts one over the bar from the spot. Keep him on the right wing please. Tonight would have been a great opportunity for Adam Baker to get a run out as he travelled up with e squad. It's these types of games where he should be given the chance to prove himself.[/p][/quote]That's a bit harsh on Thommo. Yes, he missed a great opportunity, but his game was very good apart from that chance. I note you side-stepped the, "James Hanson headed wide from close range" comment. He was ONE YARD from goal when he headed wide. Admittedly, he was under pressure, but surely a goalscorer should be getting those on target from so close? Then within 30 seconds, he had another chance and drilled his shot wide. Yet again, big JH has had plenty of opportunities and failed. Despite that, you attack Thompson who did have a good game.....! Waynus1971
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11:03pm Tue 9 Oct 12

doubledigiter says...

According to Calender News just now we drew nil nil and that was it - no mention of this pen shoot out win! Good to see our local news stations taking such an interest in our regional teams lol. And this was 5 minutes ago - over an hour since the shoot out finished! Anyway back to the game. Listened to bits of the first half and all of the 2nd. We certainly seemed to be the better team 2nd half and made their keeper work far more than they worked ours. A bit worrying again though that we did not put away any of the seemingly good chances we created. Fortunately this time we were not made to pay for those misses. I'm not trying to be critical or negative - if anything I am delighted we are creating so many chances in games this season and it's a huge improvement on previous seasons - but I am concerned at the moment that in the long run all these missed chances are going to cost us come the end of the season. Hopefully it is just a blip and we will start putting the chances away again as we had been doing in the first 8 or 9 games. That aside congratulations and well done to the team tonight for winning the penalty shootout and getting through another round of another cup. It was well deserved and would have been an injustice had we not got through. We appear to be turning into a bit of a specialist cup team. Who would have thought that would happen after all these barren years? Lol :)
According to Calender News just now we drew nil nil and that was it - no mention of this pen shoot out win! Good to see our local news stations taking such an interest in our regional teams lol. And this was 5 minutes ago - over an hour since the shoot out finished! Anyway back to the game. Listened to bits of the first half and all of the 2nd. We certainly seemed to be the better team 2nd half and made their keeper work far more than they worked ours. A bit worrying again though that we did not put away any of the seemingly good chances we created. Fortunately this time we were not made to pay for those misses. I'm not trying to be critical or negative - if anything I am delighted we are creating so many chances in games this season and it's a huge improvement on previous seasons - but I am concerned at the moment that in the long run all these missed chances are going to cost us come the end of the season. Hopefully it is just a blip and we will start putting the chances away again as we had been doing in the first 8 or 9 games. That aside congratulations and well done to the team tonight for winning the penalty shootout and getting through another round of another cup. It was well deserved and would have been an injustice had we not got through. We appear to be turning into a bit of a specialist cup team. Who would have thought that would happen after all these barren years? Lol :) doubledigiter
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11:16pm Tue 9 Oct 12

my only vision says...

Bench Hanson, he looked like crap today. He is in my opinion THE WEEKEST LINK.... Guy has not scored in away games for OVER A YEAR... A **** LIABILITY...... Connell, Wells & Thompson should get a start....
Bench Hanson, he looked like crap today. He is in my opinion THE WEEKEST LINK.... Guy has not scored in away games for OVER A YEAR... A **** LIABILITY...... Connell, Wells & Thompson should get a start.... my only vision
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1:17am Wed 10 Oct 12

bcfc1903 says...

The City of Bradford was built on the back of German/German jewish expertise, with that German history the city has.. it seems apt that BCFC are brilliant at taking penalty kicks. Great result at another club in a higher league. Well done fellas......also well done to the BCFC fans who made the trip.
The City of Bradford was built on the back of German/German jewish expertise, with that German history the city has.. it seems apt that BCFC are brilliant at taking penalty kicks. Great result at another club in a higher league. Well done fellas......also well done to the BCFC fans who made the trip. bcfc1903
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2:03am Wed 10 Oct 12

Shadrach Dingle says...

Nice one J -Mac. A clean sheet and the all important penalty shoot-out save. I knew you wouldn't let me down. You'd think and hope that another clean sheet and yet more penalty shoot-out heroics would silence the doubters but somehow I doubt it will. A lot of muppets supporting our club seem to want someone better. God knows why. I can count the mistakes you've made over the last two seasons on one hand and imho you should have got last seasons PotY award. Keep on doing what you're doing lad cos there's a helluva lot of fans that really appreciate what you are doing.
Nice one J -Mac. A clean sheet and the all important penalty shoot-out save. I knew you wouldn't let me down. You'd think and hope that another clean sheet and yet more penalty shoot-out heroics would silence the doubters but somehow I doubt it will. A lot of muppets supporting our club seem to want someone better. God knows why. I can count the mistakes you've made over the last two seasons on one hand and imho you should have got last seasons PotY award. Keep on doing what you're doing lad cos there's a helluva lot of fans that really appreciate what you are doing. Shadrach Dingle
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8:08am Wed 10 Oct 12

Dave2610 says...

Jimmy will know that he must hit the target more but doing that doesnt mean these will go in the onion sack theirs a goalie paid to keep clean sheets also!!!!!!!!!!!
Jimmy will know that he must hit the target more but doing that doesnt mean these will go in the onion sack theirs a goalie paid to keep clean sheets also!!!!!!!!!!! Dave2610
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8:14am Wed 10 Oct 12

MrsAngryofRidd says...

Couldn't agree with you more Shadrach Dingle, he was certainly my player of the year. Cannot understand why we need another goalie.

Best start to the season in years. Happy with league position at the moment, as long as we are there at Christmas we can push on for top 3 in New Year.

Mr Parkinson I am starting to like your style of play, its taken me a long time to get over Stuart Mc leaving but you are getting there. Would like to see Connell starting games though.
Couldn't agree with you more Shadrach Dingle, he was certainly my player of the year. Cannot understand why we need another goalie. Best start to the season in years. Happy with league position at the moment, as long as we are there at Christmas we can push on for top 3 in New Year. Mr Parkinson I am starting to like your style of play, its taken me a long time to get over Stuart Mc leaving but you are getting there. Would like to see Connell starting games though. MrsAngryofRidd
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8:23am Wed 10 Oct 12

Dave2610 says...

Jimy not scored away in over a year some supporters you are!! He hit the winner at Notts county in the cup game

OR DONT THEY COUNT????????
Jimy not scored away in over a year some supporters you are!! He hit the winner at Notts county in the cup game OR DONT THEY COUNT???????? Dave2610
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8:39am Wed 10 Oct 12

ALEXIMO.56. says...

Just like to appologise for my comment last night. I only singled Thommo out and you were all right to correct me. Yes others missed sitters last night not just Thommo. On the subject of Jimmy H. For me , he has been looking a bit Jaded in some of his games. We all know he gives 100% everytime he plays but maybe he could be rested for a couple of games or start on the bench and be used as an impact player. Everyone goes on about City needing a 20 goal a season man. I think and believe Jimmy H. will score 20 this season. We all know strikers have this so called dry period where they can't score to save their lives and then all of a sudden, the goals start coming. A as far as using his strength to win the ball in the goal area, well, he needs Bobby C. to coach him on how to be a good striker. 4 pints just before the game and the hat-tricks will come lol.
Just like to appologise for my comment last night. I only singled Thommo out and you were all right to correct me. Yes others missed sitters last night not just Thommo. On the subject of Jimmy H. For me , he has been looking a bit Jaded in some of his games. We all know he gives 100% everytime he plays but maybe he could be rested for a couple of games or start on the bench and be used as an impact player. Everyone goes on about City needing a 20 goal a season man. I think and believe Jimmy H. will score 20 this season. We all know strikers have this so called dry period where they can't score to save their lives and then all of a sudden, the goals start coming. A as far as using his strength to win the ball in the goal area, well, he needs Bobby C. to coach him on how to be a good striker. 4 pints just before the game and the hat-tricks will come lol. ALEXIMO.56.
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8:50am Wed 10 Oct 12

Dave2610 says...

11-08-2012 Notts County Meadow Lane
95th min Hanson curls shot from edge of box round the goalie CITY win cup game 1 nil!!!!!

We are still in 2012 are we not??????

Their you go to all Hansons knockers its not over a year is it!!!!!!

Very short memories!!!!!!
11-08-2012 Notts County Meadow Lane 95th min Hanson curls shot from edge of box round the goalie CITY win cup game 1 nil!!!!! We are still in 2012 are we not?????? Their you go to all Hansons knockers its not over a year is it!!!!!! Very short memories!!!!!! Dave2610
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9:05am Wed 10 Oct 12

shaun from richmond says...

Im sure "Pools" are chuffed to bits to be out of this "WASTE OF TIME" Cup.
Unfortunatly City have to continue in it!!.
Only the "DULL" of mind can get any positive out of this result!!.
Im sure "Pools" are chuffed to bits to be out of this "WASTE OF TIME" Cup. Unfortunatly City have to continue in it!!. Only the "DULL" of mind can get any positive out of this result!!. shaun from richmond
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9:47am Wed 10 Oct 12

KnightMcCall says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
Im sure "Pools" are chuffed to bits to be out of this "WASTE OF TIME" Cup. Unfortunatly City have to continue in it!!. Only the "DULL" of mind can get any positive out of this result!!.
Oh dear Yawn from Richmond; it really doesn't suit your agenda for City to win games does it. Four cup wins now this season; three against higher league opposition at their grounds. It must really bother you that PP is doing well. Keep focusing on the negatives you fool...football will give you plenty of opportunity to slate a football manager when the inevitable poor results come. It takes a much bigger man to see the positives in life.

Well done City and PP. A really solid performance and a boost for confidence. Darby did very well again and must be close to getting the nod at right back on Saturday. Great battling from the midfield too and a huge effort from Connell. Jon Mac had a good 90 mins and we all knew he would shine in the pens...like many on here though; I think Thommo is much more dangerous as a winger; unlike yawn from Richmond who is a dangerous whinger...
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: Im sure "Pools" are chuffed to bits to be out of this "WASTE OF TIME" Cup. Unfortunatly City have to continue in it!!. Only the "DULL" of mind can get any positive out of this result!!.[/p][/quote]Oh dear Yawn from Richmond; it really doesn't suit your agenda for City to win games does it. Four cup wins now this season; three against higher league opposition at their grounds. It must really bother you that PP is doing well. Keep focusing on the negatives you fool...football will give you plenty of opportunity to slate a football manager when the inevitable poor results come. It takes a much bigger man to see the positives in life. Well done City and PP. A really solid performance and a boost for confidence. Darby did very well again and must be close to getting the nod at right back on Saturday. Great battling from the midfield too and a huge effort from Connell. Jon Mac had a good 90 mins and we all knew he would shine in the pens...like many on here though; I think Thommo is much more dangerous as a winger; unlike yawn from Richmond who is a dangerous whinger... KnightMcCall
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9:49am Wed 10 Oct 12

bantam69 says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
Im sure "Pools" are chuffed to bits to be out of this "WASTE OF TIME" Cup.
Unfortunatly City have to continue in it!!.
Only the "DULL" of mind can get any positive out of this result!!.
How "RICH" that is coming from the most "POSITIVE (not)" ,"WASTE OF TIME "(definitely), "DULL" ( deadbeat) poster on this site.

Well done City and well done Jonny M.

Looking forward to York on Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: Im sure "Pools" are chuffed to bits to be out of this "WASTE OF TIME" Cup. Unfortunatly City have to continue in it!!. Only the "DULL" of mind can get any positive out of this result!!.[/p][/quote]How "RICH" that is coming from the most "POSITIVE (not)" ,"WASTE OF TIME "(definitely), "DULL" ( deadbeat) poster on this site. Well done City and well done Jonny M. Looking forward to York on Saturday. bantam69
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9:49am Wed 10 Oct 12

bantam69 says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
Im sure "Pools" are chuffed to bits to be out of this "WASTE OF TIME" Cup.
Unfortunatly City have to continue in it!!.
Only the "DULL" of mind can get any positive out of this result!!.
How "RICH" that is coming from the most "POSITIVE (not)" ,"WASTE OF TIME "(definitely), "DULL" ( deadbeat) poster on this site.

Well done City and well done Jonny M.

Looking forward to York on Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: Im sure "Pools" are chuffed to bits to be out of this "WASTE OF TIME" Cup. Unfortunatly City have to continue in it!!. Only the "DULL" of mind can get any positive out of this result!!.[/p][/quote]How "RICH" that is coming from the most "POSITIVE (not)" ,"WASTE OF TIME "(definitely), "DULL" ( deadbeat) poster on this site. Well done City and well done Jonny M. Looking forward to York on Saturday. bantam69
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10:47am Wed 10 Oct 12

northyorksbantam says...

Dave2610 wrote:
11-08-2012 Notts County Meadow Lane 95th min Hanson curls shot from edge of box round the goalie CITY win cup game 1 nil!!!!! We are still in 2012 are we not?????? Their you go to all Hansons knockers its not over a year is it!!!!!! Very short memories!!!!!!
We just won a game, and as ever you can still only tell us about how good you think Hanson is, are you ever going to change the record....Do you think about him all day and night?
[quote][p][bold]Dave2610[/bold] wrote: 11-08-2012 Notts County Meadow Lane 95th min Hanson curls shot from edge of box round the goalie CITY win cup game 1 nil!!!!! We are still in 2012 are we not?????? Their you go to all Hansons knockers its not over a year is it!!!!!! Very short memories!!!!!![/p][/quote]We just won a game, and as ever you can still only tell us about how good you think Hanson is, are you ever going to change the record....Do you think about him all day and night? northyorksbantam
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11:43am Wed 10 Oct 12

nowt fresh says...

northyorksbantam wrote:
Dave2610 wrote: 11-08-2012 Notts County Meadow Lane 95th min Hanson curls shot from edge of box round the goalie CITY win cup game 1 nil!!!!! We are still in 2012 are we not?????? Their you go to all Hansons knockers its not over a year is it!!!!!! Very short memories!!!!!!
We just won a game, and as ever you can still only tell us about how good you think Hanson is, are you ever going to change the record....Do you think about him all day and night?
I thought Dave2610 was answering this posters comment why you having a go ??

my only vision says...
11:16pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Bench Hanson, he looked like crap today. He is in my opinion THE WEEKEST LINK.... Guy has not scored in away games for OVER A YEAR... A **** LIABILITY...... Connell, Wells & Thompson should get a start....”
[quote][p][bold]northyorksbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave2610[/bold] wrote: 11-08-2012 Notts County Meadow Lane 95th min Hanson curls shot from edge of box round the goalie CITY win cup game 1 nil!!!!! We are still in 2012 are we not?????? Their you go to all Hansons knockers its not over a year is it!!!!!! Very short memories!!!!!![/p][/quote]We just won a game, and as ever you can still only tell us about how good you think Hanson is, are you ever going to change the record....Do you think about him all day and night?[/p][/quote]I thought Dave2610 was answering this posters comment why you having a go ?? my only vision says... 11:16pm Tue 9 Oct 12 Bench Hanson, he looked like crap today. He is in my opinion THE WEEKEST LINK.... Guy has not scored in away games for OVER A YEAR... A **** LIABILITY...... Connell, Wells & Thompson should get a start....” nowt fresh
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2:17pm Wed 10 Oct 12

northyorksbantam says...

nowt fresh wrote:
northyorksbantam wrote:
Dave2610 wrote: 11-08-2012 Notts County Meadow Lane 95th min Hanson curls shot from edge of box round the goalie CITY win cup game 1 nil!!!!! We are still in 2012 are we not?????? Their you go to all Hansons knockers its not over a year is it!!!!!! Very short memories!!!!!!
We just won a game, and as ever you can still only tell us about how good you think Hanson is, are you ever going to change the record....Do you think about him all day and night?
I thought Dave2610 was answering this posters comment why you having a go ?? my only vision says... 11:16pm Tue 9 Oct 12 Bench Hanson, he looked like crap today. He is in my opinion THE WEEKEST LINK.... Guy has not scored in away games for OVER A YEAR... A **** LIABILITY...... Connell, Wells & Thompson should get a start....”
Your right Nowt, bit harsh as Dave's Hansons biggest fan, bad morning at work, Sorry Dave.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]northyorksbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave2610[/bold] wrote: 11-08-2012 Notts County Meadow Lane 95th min Hanson curls shot from edge of box round the goalie CITY win cup game 1 nil!!!!! We are still in 2012 are we not?????? Their you go to all Hansons knockers its not over a year is it!!!!!! Very short memories!!!!!![/p][/quote]We just won a game, and as ever you can still only tell us about how good you think Hanson is, are you ever going to change the record....Do you think about him all day and night?[/p][/quote]I thought Dave2610 was answering this posters comment why you having a go ?? my only vision says... 11:16pm Tue 9 Oct 12 Bench Hanson, he looked like crap today. He is in my opinion THE WEEKEST LINK.... Guy has not scored in away games for OVER A YEAR... A **** LIABILITY...... Connell, Wells & Thompson should get a start....”[/p][/quote]Your right Nowt, bit harsh as Dave's Hansons biggest fan, bad morning at work, Sorry Dave. northyorksbantam
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3:17pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Dave2610 says...

I sponsor him so my money is where my mouth is!!!!!!!

I was stating a fact to those who think he hasn't scored away this season!!!!!!!
I sponsor him so my money is where my mouth is!!!!!!! I was stating a fact to those who think he hasn't scored away this season!!!!!!! Dave2610
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6:32pm Wed 10 Oct 12

shaun from richmond says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote: Im sure "Pools" are chuffed to bits to be out of this "WASTE OF TIME" Cup. Unfortunatly City have to continue in it!!. Only the "DULL" of mind can get any positive out of this result!!.
Oh dear Yawn from Richmond; it really doesn't suit your agenda for City to win games does it. Four cup wins now this season; three against higher league opposition at their grounds. It must really bother you that PP is doing well. Keep focusing on the negatives you fool...football will give you plenty of opportunity to slate a football manager when the inevitable poor results come. It takes a much bigger man to see the positives in life. Well done City and PP. A really solid performance and a boost for confidence. Darby did very well again and must be close to getting the nod at right back on Saturday. Great battling from the midfield too and a huge effort from Connell. Jon Mac had a good 90 mins and we all knew he would shine in the pens...like many on here though; I think Thommo is much more dangerous as a winger; unlike yawn from Richmond who is a dangerous whinger...
"It must really bother you,Deadbeat is doing well"!!!!.......Are you on DRUGS??..Dont you keep up to speed on our LEAGUE FORM!!..........STEP FORWARD......MR "DULL OF MIND"!!.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: Im sure "Pools" are chuffed to bits to be out of this "WASTE OF TIME" Cup. Unfortunatly City have to continue in it!!. Only the "DULL" of mind can get any positive out of this result!!.[/p][/quote]Oh dear Yawn from Richmond; it really doesn't suit your agenda for City to win games does it. Four cup wins now this season; three against higher league opposition at their grounds. It must really bother you that PP is doing well. Keep focusing on the negatives you fool...football will give you plenty of opportunity to slate a football manager when the inevitable poor results come. It takes a much bigger man to see the positives in life. Well done City and PP. A really solid performance and a boost for confidence. Darby did very well again and must be close to getting the nod at right back on Saturday. Great battling from the midfield too and a huge effort from Connell. Jon Mac had a good 90 mins and we all knew he would shine in the pens...like many on here though; I think Thommo is much more dangerous as a winger; unlike yawn from Richmond who is a dangerous whinger...[/p][/quote]"It must really bother you,Deadbeat is doing well"!!!!.......Are you on DRUGS??..Dont you keep up to speed on our LEAGUE FORM!!..........STEP FORWARD......MR "DULL OF MIND"!!. shaun from richmond
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8:00pm Wed 10 Oct 12

bcfc1903 says...

Hanson is a fine player who looks like he'll score 20 goals this season. Great start to the season from the lads and an excellent display from all the team up at Hartlepool.
Hanson is a fine player who looks like he'll score 20 goals this season. Great start to the season from the lads and an excellent display from all the team up at Hartlepool. bcfc1903
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9:02pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Birky Neil says...

Dave2610 wrote:
11-08-2012 Notts County Meadow Lane
95th min Hanson curls shot from edge of box round the goalie CITY win cup game 1 nil!!!!!

We are still in 2012 are we not??????

Their you go to all Hansons knockers its not over a year is it!!!!!!

Very short memories!!!!!!
Oh that's ok then. One goal away from home in the cup in a year! You sponser him so of he had scored 10 own goals your not gonna say anything are you Dave. His away record needs to improve then I might sponser him!
[quote][p][bold]Dave2610[/bold] wrote: 11-08-2012 Notts County Meadow Lane 95th min Hanson curls shot from edge of box round the goalie CITY win cup game 1 nil!!!!! We are still in 2012 are we not?????? Their you go to all Hansons knockers its not over a year is it!!!!!! Very short memories!!!!!![/p][/quote]Oh that's ok then. One goal away from home in the cup in a year! You sponser him so of he had scored 10 own goals your not gonna say anything are you Dave. His away record needs to improve then I might sponser him! Birky Neil
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3:21pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Waynus1971 says...

Dave2610 wrote:
I sponsor him so my money is where my mouth is!!!!!!! I was stating a fact to those who think he hasn't scored away this season!!!!!!!
I think those that were criticising Hanson's record, were speaking of league goals away from VP. No matter how you look at it, to not have scored a goal away from VP, in the league, for almost 12 months is pathetic for our main centre forward.

For someone of his aerial ability to have only netted 4 times this season (and only 2 with his head) is poor. Even Andrew Davies has scored more with his head and he only gets forward for corners and free-kicks. Hanson simply does not attack the ball as much as he should.

As I provided previously, Hanson has had 26 efforts on goal in his 11 league games. Only 12 of these were on target, scoring just 4. Pope, has had 14 efforts on target and has scored 11 times. It is okay saying the opposing keepers are having 'blinders', but that doesn't explain the ratio of shots off tartget or the fact other players (Wells, Connell & Davies) are finding the net.....!
[quote][p][bold]Dave2610[/bold] wrote: I sponsor him so my money is where my mouth is!!!!!!! I was stating a fact to those who think he hasn't scored away this season!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I think those that were criticising Hanson's record, were speaking of league goals away from VP. No matter how you look at it, to not have scored a goal away from VP, in the league, for almost 12 months is pathetic for our main centre forward. For someone of his aerial ability to have only netted 4 times this season (and only 2 with his head) is poor. Even Andrew Davies has scored more with his head and he only gets forward for corners and free-kicks. Hanson simply does not attack the ball as much as he should. As I provided previously, Hanson has had 26 efforts on goal in his 11 league games. Only 12 of these were on target, scoring just 4. Pope, has had 14 efforts on target and has scored 11 times. It is okay saying the opposing keepers are having 'blinders', but that doesn't explain the ratio of shots off tartget or the fact other players (Wells, Connell & Davies) are finding the net.....! Waynus1971
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3:48pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Dave2610 says...

Nobody mentioned it was only league games did they??

As for his lack of goals what about the dross that was played last year??
So defensive it was unreal, dont think any striker would have scored many playing those tactics!!!!!!!!!
Nobody mentioned it was only league games did they?? As for his lack of goals what about the dross that was played last year?? So defensive it was unreal, dont think any striker would have scored many playing those tactics!!!!!!!!! Dave2610
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4:00pm Thu 11 Oct 12

nowt fresh says...

Dave2610 wrote:
Nobody mentioned it was only league games did they?? As for his lack of goals what about the dross that was played last year?? So defensive it was unreal, dont think any striker would have scored many playing those tactics!!!!!!!!!
You should know Waynus1971 has a downer on James, remember last years comments re Hanson liking too many sherbets for a pro footballer !!.
[quote][p][bold]Dave2610[/bold] wrote: Nobody mentioned it was only league games did they?? As for his lack of goals what about the dross that was played last year?? So defensive it was unreal, dont think any striker would have scored many playing those tactics!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]You should know Waynus1971 has a downer on James, remember last years comments re Hanson liking too many sherbets for a pro footballer !!. nowt fresh
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4:57pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Waynus1971 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Dave2610 wrote: Nobody mentioned it was only league games did they?? As for his lack of goals what about the dross that was played last year?? So defensive it was unreal, dont think any striker would have scored many playing those tactics!!!!!!!!!
You should know Waynus1971 has a downer on James, remember last years comments re Hanson liking too many sherbets for a pro footballer !!.
For a start, my comment about Hanson was back in October 2010 (NOT LAST YEAR)...! It was almost 2 years ago, get over it.

As for my post above, I was merely explaining why OTHERS had questioned his lack of away goals and added my own thoughts. Are you saying a leading centre-forward should be happy to have scored just 2 goals with his head thus far and NO goals at all away from home?
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave2610[/bold] wrote: Nobody mentioned it was only league games did they?? As for his lack of goals what about the dross that was played last year?? So defensive it was unreal, dont think any striker would have scored many playing those tactics!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]You should know Waynus1971 has a downer on James, remember last years comments re Hanson liking too many sherbets for a pro footballer !!.[/p][/quote]For a start, my comment about Hanson was back in October 2010 (NOT LAST YEAR)...! It was almost 2 years ago, get over it. As for my post above, I was merely explaining why OTHERS had questioned his lack of away goals and added my own thoughts. Are you saying a leading centre-forward should be happy to have scored just 2 goals with his head thus far and NO goals at all away from home? Waynus1971
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5:21pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Waynus1971 says...

Dave2610 wrote:
Nobody mentioned it was only league games did they?? As for his lack of goals what about the dross that was played last year?? So defensive it was unreal, dont think any striker would have scored many playing those tactics!!!!!!!!!
I agree with you on two scores. (oh, that's nearly as many as JH, LOL). Firstly, you are right that nobody mentioned the fact it was away league goals. Somebody did say on another post, hence how I knew, but nobody has clarified on here.

Secondly, the football last season was unspectacular and may be a factor in JH not scoring as many goals as he should. That said, he still managed 13 goals at home and zero away from VP. The home performances weren't much better in terms of attacking football, so how do you explain how he scored 13 times at VP and zero away?

Finally, as I said above, he scored 13 times last season in the league. However, that was from 75 attempts on goal, albeit 36 of those were off target...! As Macca69 has said previously, JH needs to have 5/6 chances to score 1 goal.

This is further evidenced by this season's stats which shows;
Wells - 5 goals from 15 shots (11 on target)
Connell - 3 from 16 shots (10 on target)
hanson - 4 from 26 shots (12 on target).

These stats tell us that he isn't getting enough of his efforts on target. Had he got the same accuracy as Wells or Connell, then the keeper may have had to prove your 'blinder' theory..!
[quote][p][bold]Dave2610[/bold] wrote: Nobody mentioned it was only league games did they?? As for his lack of goals what about the dross that was played last year?? So defensive it was unreal, dont think any striker would have scored many playing those tactics!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I agree with you on two scores. (oh, that's nearly as many as JH, LOL). Firstly, you are right that nobody mentioned the fact it was away league goals. Somebody did say on another post, hence how I knew, but nobody has clarified on here. Secondly, the football last season was unspectacular and may be a factor in JH not scoring as many goals as he should. That said, he still managed 13 goals at home and zero away from VP. The home performances weren't much better in terms of attacking football, so how do you explain how he scored 13 times at VP and zero away? Finally, as I said above, he scored 13 times last season in the league. However, that was from 75 attempts on goal, albeit 36 of those were off target...! As Macca69 has said previously, JH needs to have 5/6 chances to score 1 goal. This is further evidenced by this season's stats which shows; Wells - 5 goals from 15 shots (11 on target) Connell - 3 from 16 shots (10 on target) hanson - 4 from 26 shots (12 on target). These stats tell us that he isn't getting enough of his efforts on target. Had he got the same accuracy as Wells or Connell, then the keeper may have had to prove your 'blinder' theory..! Waynus1971
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5:36pm Thu 11 Oct 12

KnightMcCall says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote: Im sure "Pools" are chuffed to bits to be out of this "WASTE OF TIME" Cup. Unfortunatly City have to continue in it!!. Only the "DULL" of mind can get any positive out of this result!!.
Oh dear Yawn from Richmond; it really doesn't suit your agenda for City to win games does it. Four cup wins now this season; three against higher league opposition at their grounds. It must really bother you that PP is doing well. Keep focusing on the negatives you fool...football will give you plenty of opportunity to slate a football manager when the inevitable poor results come. It takes a much bigger man to see the positives in life. Well done City and PP. A really solid performance and a boost for confidence. Darby did very well again and must be close to getting the nod at right back on Saturday. Great battling from the midfield too and a huge effort from Connell. Jon Mac had a good 90 mins and we all knew he would shine in the pens...like many on here though; I think Thommo is much more dangerous as a winger; unlike yawn from Richmond who is a dangerous whinger...
"It must really bother you,Deadbeat is doing well"!!!!.......Are you on DRUGS??..Dont you keep up to speed on our LEAGUE FORM!!..........STEP FORWARD......MR "DULL OF MIND"!!.
Yeah, the league form is so dreadful that we are 2 points behind the auto promotion spots. I presume that the maths is too complex for you to work that out. What's DULL is your incapacity to see anything that doesn't suit your idiotic viewpoint. I guess Jacko would have us top of the league with a 100% record would he? I can only pity you. 9 victories from 15 games...truly awful; we should sack him and bring PJ back...
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: Im sure "Pools" are chuffed to bits to be out of this "WASTE OF TIME" Cup. Unfortunatly City have to continue in it!!. Only the "DULL" of mind can get any positive out of this result!!.[/p][/quote]Oh dear Yawn from Richmond; it really doesn't suit your agenda for City to win games does it. Four cup wins now this season; three against higher league opposition at their grounds. It must really bother you that PP is doing well. Keep focusing on the negatives you fool...football will give you plenty of opportunity to slate a football manager when the inevitable poor results come. It takes a much bigger man to see the positives in life. Well done City and PP. A really solid performance and a boost for confidence. Darby did very well again and must be close to getting the nod at right back on Saturday. Great battling from the midfield too and a huge effort from Connell. Jon Mac had a good 90 mins and we all knew he would shine in the pens...like many on here though; I think Thommo is much more dangerous as a winger; unlike yawn from Richmond who is a dangerous whinger...[/p][/quote]"It must really bother you,Deadbeat is doing well"!!!!.......Are you on DRUGS??..Dont you keep up to speed on our LEAGUE FORM!!..........STEP FORWARD......MR "DULL OF MIND"!!.[/p][/quote]Yeah, the league form is so dreadful that we are 2 points behind the auto promotion spots. I presume that the maths is too complex for you to work that out. What's DULL is your incapacity to see anything that doesn't suit your idiotic viewpoint. I guess Jacko would have us top of the league with a 100% record would he? I can only pity you. 9 victories from 15 games...truly awful; we should sack him and bring PJ back... KnightMcCall
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5:47pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Dave2610 says...

Waynus!!!!!!!!!!

Away from home he was played up top on his own last season and missed a few through injury!
You can print stats all day but he was still top of the pile at the season end!

So if you are not happy with his contribution you carnt be happy with the other strikers also!!

Just a thought this!!!!!!!!
Waynus!!!!!!!!!! Away from home he was played up top on his own last season and missed a few through injury! You can print stats all day but he was still top of the pile at the season end! So if you are not happy with his contribution you carnt be happy with the other strikers also!! Just a thought this!!!!!!!! Dave2610
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5:54pm Thu 11 Oct 12

nowt fresh says...

Dave2610 wrote:
Waynus!!!!!!!!!! Away from home he was played up top on his own last season and missed a few through injury! You can print stats all day but he was still top of the pile at the season end! So if you are not happy with his contribution you carnt be happy with the other strikers also!! Just a thought this!!!!!!!!
And he will (print stats) hence his above reply to me !! " For a start, my comment about Hanson was back in October 2010 (NOT LAST YEAR)...! It was almost 2 years ago, get over it", but it went on for several weeks so it might have extended into 2011, :-))
[quote][p][bold]Dave2610[/bold] wrote: Waynus!!!!!!!!!! Away from home he was played up top on his own last season and missed a few through injury! You can print stats all day but he was still top of the pile at the season end! So if you are not happy with his contribution you carnt be happy with the other strikers also!! Just a thought this!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]And he will (print stats) hence his above reply to me !! " For a start, my comment about Hanson was back in October 2010 (NOT LAST YEAR)...! It was almost 2 years ago, get over it", but it went on for several weeks so it might have extended into 2011, :-)) nowt fresh
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6:08pm Thu 11 Oct 12

nowt fresh says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote: Im sure "Pools" are chuffed to bits to be out of this "WASTE OF TIME" Cup. Unfortunatly City have to continue in it!!. Only the "DULL" of mind can get any positive out of this result!!.
Oh dear Yawn from Richmond; it really doesn't suit your agenda for City to win games does it. Four cup wins now this season; three against higher league opposition at their grounds. It must really bother you that PP is doing well. Keep focusing on the negatives you fool...football will give you plenty of opportunity to slate a football manager when the inevitable poor results come. It takes a much bigger man to see the positives in life. Well done City and PP. A really solid performance and a boost for confidence. Darby did very well again and must be close to getting the nod at right back on Saturday. Great battling from the midfield too and a huge effort from Connell. Jon Mac had a good 90 mins and we all knew he would shine in the pens...like many on here though; I think Thommo is much more dangerous as a winger; unlike yawn from Richmond who is a dangerous whinger...
"It must really bother you,Deadbeat is doing well"!!!!.......Are you on DRUGS??..Dont you keep up to speed on our LEAGUE FORM!!..........STEP FORWARD......MR "DULL OF MIND"!!.
Yeah, the league form is so dreadful that we are 2 points behind the auto promotion spots. I presume that the maths is too complex for you to work that out. What's DULL is your incapacity to see anything that doesn't suit your idiotic viewpoint. I guess Jacko would have us top of the league with a 100% record would he? I can only pity you. 9 victories from 15 games...truly awful; we should sack him and bring PJ back...
Or Paul Jewel as he will out of a job if he does not steady the Ipswich ship, then Shaun can go golfing with Paul as much as he likes !!.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: Im sure "Pools" are chuffed to bits to be out of this "WASTE OF TIME" Cup. Unfortunatly City have to continue in it!!. Only the "DULL" of mind can get any positive out of this result!!.[/p][/quote]Oh dear Yawn from Richmond; it really doesn't suit your agenda for City to win games does it. Four cup wins now this season; three against higher league opposition at their grounds. It must really bother you that PP is doing well. Keep focusing on the negatives you fool...football will give you plenty of opportunity to slate a football manager when the inevitable poor results come. It takes a much bigger man to see the positives in life. Well done City and PP. A really solid performance and a boost for confidence. Darby did very well again and must be close to getting the nod at right back on Saturday. Great battling from the midfield too and a huge effort from Connell. Jon Mac had a good 90 mins and we all knew he would shine in the pens...like many on here though; I think Thommo is much more dangerous as a winger; unlike yawn from Richmond who is a dangerous whinger...[/p][/quote]"It must really bother you,Deadbeat is doing well"!!!!.......Are you on DRUGS??..Dont you keep up to speed on our LEAGUE FORM!!..........STEP FORWARD......MR "DULL OF MIND"!!.[/p][/quote]Yeah, the league form is so dreadful that we are 2 points behind the auto promotion spots. I presume that the maths is too complex for you to work that out. What's DULL is your incapacity to see anything that doesn't suit your idiotic viewpoint. I guess Jacko would have us top of the league with a 100% record would he? I can only pity you. 9 victories from 15 games...truly awful; we should sack him and bring PJ back...[/p][/quote]Or Paul Jewel as he will out of a job if he does not steady the Ipswich ship, then Shaun can go golfing with Paul as much as he likes !!. nowt fresh
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8:14pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Waynus1971 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Dave2610 wrote:
Waynus!!!!!!!!!! Away from home he was played up top on his own last season and missed a few through injury! You can print stats all day but he was still top of the pile at the season end! So if you are not happy with his contribution you carnt be happy with the other strikers also!! Just a thought this!!!!!!!!
And he will (print stats) hence his above reply to me !! " For a start, my comment about Hanson was back in October 2010 (NOT LAST YEAR)...! It was almost 2 years ago, get over it", but it went on for several weeks so it might have extended into 2011, :-))
If it went on for a few weeks, that was because others carried it on. I said my piece then defended my comment. I can't legislate for others, like you are doing now, bringing it back up ... time and time again...!
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave2610[/bold] wrote: Waynus!!!!!!!!!! Away from home he was played up top on his own last season and missed a few through injury! You can print stats all day but he was still top of the pile at the season end! So if you are not happy with his contribution you carnt be happy with the other strikers also!! Just a thought this!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]And he will (print stats) hence his above reply to me !! " For a start, my comment about Hanson was back in October 2010 (NOT LAST YEAR)...! It was almost 2 years ago, get over it", but it went on for several weeks so it might have extended into 2011, :-))[/p][/quote]If it went on for a few weeks, that was because others carried it on. I said my piece then defended my comment. I can't legislate for others, like you are doing now, bringing it back up ... time and time again...! Waynus1971
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8:16pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Waynus1971 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Dave2610 wrote:
Waynus!!!!!!!!!! Away from home he was played up top on his own last season and missed a few through injury! You can print stats all day but he was still top of the pile at the season end! So if you are not happy with his contribution you carnt be happy with the other strikers also!! Just a thought this!!!!!!!!
And he will (print stats) hence his above reply to me !! " For a start, my comment about Hanson was back in October 2010 (NOT LAST YEAR)...! It was almost 2 years ago, get over it", but it went on for several weeks so it might have extended into 2011, :-))
But then again, why not stick to comments made 2 years ago. It explains your username, "nowtfresh"....!
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave2610[/bold] wrote: Waynus!!!!!!!!!! Away from home he was played up top on his own last season and missed a few through injury! You can print stats all day but he was still top of the pile at the season end! So if you are not happy with his contribution you carnt be happy with the other strikers also!! Just a thought this!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]And he will (print stats) hence his above reply to me !! " For a start, my comment about Hanson was back in October 2010 (NOT LAST YEAR)...! It was almost 2 years ago, get over it", but it went on for several weeks so it might have extended into 2011, :-))[/p][/quote]But then again, why not stick to comments made 2 years ago. It explains your username, "nowtfresh"....! Waynus1971
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8:23pm Thu 11 Oct 12

nowt fresh says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Dave2610 wrote: Waynus!!!!!!!!!! Away from home he was played up top on his own last season and missed a few through injury! You can print stats all day but he was still top of the pile at the season end! So if you are not happy with his contribution you carnt be happy with the other strikers also!! Just a thought this!!!!!!!!
And he will (print stats) hence his above reply to me !! " For a start, my comment about Hanson was back in October 2010 (NOT LAST YEAR)...! It was almost 2 years ago, get over it", but it went on for several weeks so it might have extended into 2011, :-))
But then again, why not stick to comments made 2 years ago. It explains your username, "nowtfresh"....!
Now Now Waynus1971 just pointing out to Dave2610 that you have history with James Hanson as per your previous castigation of Jameswhen you were saying he was getting well oiled, nowif the TRUTH or in this case FACTS hurts I apologise :-)) LOL
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave2610[/bold] wrote: Waynus!!!!!!!!!! Away from home he was played up top on his own last season and missed a few through injury! You can print stats all day but he was still top of the pile at the season end! So if you are not happy with his contribution you carnt be happy with the other strikers also!! Just a thought this!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]And he will (print stats) hence his above reply to me !! " For a start, my comment about Hanson was back in October 2010 (NOT LAST YEAR)...! It was almost 2 years ago, get over it", but it went on for several weeks so it might have extended into 2011, :-))[/p][/quote]But then again, why not stick to comments made 2 years ago. It explains your username, "nowtfresh"....![/p][/quote]Now Now Waynus1971 just pointing out to Dave2610 that you have history with James Hanson as per your previous castigation of Jameswhen you were saying he was getting well oiled, nowif the TRUTH or in this case FACTS hurts I apologise :-)) LOL nowt fresh
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8:28pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Waynus1971 says...

Dave2610 wrote:
Waynus!!!!!!!!!!

Away from home he was played up top on his own last season and missed a few through injury!
You can print stats all day but he was still top of the pile at the season end!

So if you are not happy with his contribution you carnt be happy with the other strikers also!!

Just a thought this!!!!!!!!
What other strikers? Hanson started 36 league games and the next highest was Wells with 18. Yes Fagan started over 20 times, but most of them were on the right hand side. The rest of our forwards played just 8 games or less, so hard to make an opinion really.

From Hanson's 36 starts, he scored 13 goals. Wells only got into the team at the back end of November and even then was never first choice. He finished the season having started just 18 games but despite that, he still bagged 10 for the season.

Only one of those forwards will finish with 20+ goals and my money is firmly on Wells.
[quote][p][bold]Dave2610[/bold] wrote: Waynus!!!!!!!!!! Away from home he was played up top on his own last season and missed a few through injury! You can print stats all day but he was still top of the pile at the season end! So if you are not happy with his contribution you carnt be happy with the other strikers also!! Just a thought this!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]What other strikers? Hanson started 36 league games and the next highest was Wells with 18. Yes Fagan started over 20 times, but most of them were on the right hand side. The rest of our forwards played just 8 games or less, so hard to make an opinion really. From Hanson's 36 starts, he scored 13 goals. Wells only got into the team at the back end of November and even then was never first choice. He finished the season having started just 18 games but despite that, he still bagged 10 for the season. Only one of those forwards will finish with 20+ goals and my money is firmly on Wells. Waynus1971
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9:43pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Period Drama says...

The stats above also indicate he has had the most shots on target, maybe more games, shots, minutes on the pitch but dtill most on target.

He would more than likely be a starter for most teams in the bottom two divisions and irregardless of other stats has been our top scorer in all the seasons he's been a citry player.

I think his away tally may be down to the tactics employed by our managers, SM being the only real adventurous one.


Time this debate lost some pace, JH has hit a bad run of form re goalscoring, he remains a vital team member and also team player, taking the knocks and giving them out.
The stats above also indicate he has had the most shots on target, maybe more games, shots, minutes on the pitch but dtill most on target. He would more than likely be a starter for most teams in the bottom two divisions and irregardless of other stats has been our top scorer in all the seasons he's been a citry player. I think his away tally may be down to the tactics employed by our managers, SM being the only real adventurous one. Time this debate lost some pace, JH has hit a bad run of form re goalscoring, he remains a vital team member and also team player, taking the knocks and giving them out. Period Drama
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11:13pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Waynus1971 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Dave2610 wrote: Waynus!!!!!!!!!! Away from home he was played up top on his own last season and missed a few through injury! You can print stats all day but he was still top of the pile at the season end! So if you are not happy with his contribution you carnt be happy with the other strikers also!! Just a thought this!!!!!!!!
And he will (print stats) hence his above reply to me !! " For a start, my comment about Hanson was back in October 2010 (NOT LAST YEAR)...! It was almost 2 years ago, get over it", but it went on for several weeks so it might have extended into 2011, :-))
But then again, why not stick to comments made 2 years ago. It explains your username, "nowtfresh"....!
Now Now Waynus1971 just pointing out to Dave2610 that you have history with James Hanson as per your previous castigation of Jameswhen you were saying he was getting well oiled, nowif the TRUTH or in this case FACTS hurts I apologise :-)) LOL
It may have been factual, but this debate has nothing to do with his drinking or the comments made 2 years ago. As I said 'nowtfresh', your comment is..... Nowt fresh!!!

The fact is, since you like quoting fact, James Hanson has not scored enough goals period. This season, in particular, we have had lots of chances, especially from set-pieces. The fact us, James Hanson is rarely on the end of those deliveries
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave2610[/bold] wrote: Waynus!!!!!!!!!! Away from home he was played up top on his own last season and missed a few through injury! You can print stats all day but he was still top of the pile at the season end! So if you are not happy with his contribution you carnt be happy with the other strikers also!! Just a thought this!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]And he will (print stats) hence his above reply to me !! " For a start, my comment about Hanson was back in October 2010 (NOT LAST YEAR)...! It was almost 2 years ago, get over it", but it went on for several weeks so it might have extended into 2011, :-))[/p][/quote]But then again, why not stick to comments made 2 years ago. It explains your username, "nowtfresh"....![/p][/quote]Now Now Waynus1971 just pointing out to Dave2610 that you have history with James Hanson as per your previous castigation of Jameswhen you were saying he was getting well oiled, nowif the TRUTH or in this case FACTS hurts I apologise :-)) LOL[/p][/quote]It may have been factual, but this debate has nothing to do with his drinking or the comments made 2 years ago. As I said 'nowtfresh', your comment is..... Nowt fresh!!! The fact is, since you like quoting fact, James Hanson has not scored enough goals period. This season, in particular, we have had lots of chances, especially from set-pieces. The fact us, James Hanson is rarely on the end of those deliveries Waynus1971
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10:55am Fri 12 Oct 12

nowt fresh says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Dave2610 wrote: Waynus!!!!!!!!!! Away from home he was played up top on his own last season and missed a few through injury! You can print stats all day but he was still top of the pile at the season end! So if you are not happy with his contribution you carnt be happy with the other strikers also!! Just a thought this!!!!!!!!
And he will (print stats) hence his above reply to me !! " For a start, my comment about Hanson was back in October 2010 (NOT LAST YEAR)...! It was almost 2 years ago, get over it", but it went on for several weeks so it might have extended into 2011, :-))
But then again, why not stick to comments made 2 years ago. It explains your username, "nowtfresh"....!
Now Now Waynus1971 just pointing out to Dave2610 that you have history with James Hanson as per your previous castigation of Jameswhen you were saying he was getting well oiled, nowif the TRUTH or in this case FACTS hurts I apologise :-)) LOL
It may have been factual, but this debate has nothing to do with his drinking or the comments made 2 years ago. As I said 'nowtfresh', your comment is..... Nowt fresh!!! The fact is, since you like quoting fact, James Hanson has not scored enough goals period. This season, in particular, we have had lots of chances, especially from set-pieces. The fact us, James Hanson is rarely on the end of those deliveries
"The fact is, since you like quoting fact, James Hanson has not scored enough goals" whats enough goals ?? without going through our "STATS" I believe Hanson has been our leading league goal scorer 2 of the 3 seasons he's been at Bradford City so maybe that suggests he's the best weve had over that period at putting the ball in the net ? let's judge James Hanson at the end of the season when IMO he will be our lead goal scorer again, even the great Jimmy Greaves said he was more than happy to convert 1 in 3 chances that came his way,and he would get far better service than James Hanson could ever dream of getting.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave2610[/bold] wrote: Waynus!!!!!!!!!! Away from home he was played up top on his own last season and missed a few through injury! You can print stats all day but he was still top of the pile at the season end! So if you are not happy with his contribution you carnt be happy with the other strikers also!! Just a thought this!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]And he will (print stats) hence his above reply to me !! " For a start, my comment about Hanson was back in October 2010 (NOT LAST YEAR)...! It was almost 2 years ago, get over it", but it went on for several weeks so it might have extended into 2011, :-))[/p][/quote]But then again, why not stick to comments made 2 years ago. It explains your username, "nowtfresh"....![/p][/quote]Now Now Waynus1971 just pointing out to Dave2610 that you have history with James Hanson as per your previous castigation of Jameswhen you were saying he was getting well oiled, nowif the TRUTH or in this case FACTS hurts I apologise :-)) LOL[/p][/quote]It may have been factual, but this debate has nothing to do with his drinking or the comments made 2 years ago. As I said 'nowtfresh', your comment is..... Nowt fresh!!! The fact is, since you like quoting fact, James Hanson has not scored enough goals period. This season, in particular, we have had lots of chances, especially from set-pieces. The fact us, James Hanson is rarely on the end of those deliveries[/p][/quote]"The fact is, since you like quoting fact, James Hanson has not scored enough goals" whats enough goals ?? without going through our "STATS" I believe Hanson has been our leading league goal scorer 2 of the 3 seasons he's been at Bradford City so maybe that suggests he's the best weve had over that period at putting the ball in the net ? let's judge James Hanson at the end of the season when IMO he will be our lead goal scorer again, even the great Jimmy Greaves said he was more than happy to convert 1 in 3 chances that came his way,and he would get far better service than James Hanson could ever dream of getting. nowt fresh
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12:58pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Andy Cole's strike rate was 1/7, he was loved wherever he played, it is the chances created as wel las the correct delivery, the player being on form, the defence making mistakes.

He is doing his job well enough for PP to keep him in the side and Andy Davies to comment how much of a good job he does and will continue to do for City.

A nice brace tomorrow for him should end all this pointless chatter.
Andy Cole's strike rate was 1/7, he was loved wherever he played, it is the chances created as wel las the correct delivery, the player being on form, the defence making mistakes. He is doing his job well enough for PP to keep him in the side and Andy Davies to comment how much of a good job he does and will continue to do for City. A nice brace tomorrow for him should end all this pointless chatter. Prisoner Cell Block A
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1:17pm Fri 12 Oct 12

nowt fresh says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Andy Cole's strike rate was 1/7, he was loved wherever he played, it is the chances created as wel las the correct delivery, the player being on form, the defence making mistakes. He is doing his job well enough for PP to keep him in the side and Andy Davies to comment how much of a good job he does and will continue to do for City. A nice brace tomorrow for him should end all this pointless chatter.
No only is James Hanson Phil Parkinsons first choice,but was also Stuart McCall's,Peter Taylor's,Peter Jackson's,now if some on these boards wanted too they could say whats the common denominator in the above scenario ?? James Hanson !! let's get rid because he does not score enough goals hence the reason we have not achieved whilst James Hanson has been our No 1 striker, laughable really to criticise one of our players when we have played less than 1/4 of the season !!
PS re Andy Cole that is an amazing stat PSBA.
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: Andy Cole's strike rate was 1/7, he was loved wherever he played, it is the chances created as wel las the correct delivery, the player being on form, the defence making mistakes. He is doing his job well enough for PP to keep him in the side and Andy Davies to comment how much of a good job he does and will continue to do for City. A nice brace tomorrow for him should end all this pointless chatter.[/p][/quote]No only is James Hanson Phil Parkinsons first choice,but was also Stuart McCall's,Peter Taylor's,Peter Jackson's,now if some on these boards wanted too they could say whats the common denominator in the above scenario ?? James Hanson !! let's get rid because he does not score enough goals hence the reason we have not achieved whilst James Hanson has been our No 1 striker, laughable really to criticise one of our players when we have played less than 1/4 of the season !! PS re Andy Cole that is an amazing stat PSBA. nowt fresh
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3:47pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

That was an at the time stat, it may have improved after he left Man U but was relevant relating to his time at Newcastle and Manchester.

In some games he was scoring threes and fours and only having three and four chances, others he had 20 chances but failed to score. The thing with that and also with James is they have to be there to miss the chances or otherwise they wont be there to score with the other chances.

It's no secret I rate JH and his attributes highly but I am slightly concerned at this little dip in front of goal, I just wish people didn't try turn it into a witch hunt but instead gave a little more support around the positives he is still bringing every game which a guy at 5'8" never could.
That was an at the time stat, it may have improved after he left Man U but was relevant relating to his time at Newcastle and Manchester. In some games he was scoring threes and fours and only having three and four chances, others he had 20 chances but failed to score. The thing with that and also with James is they have to be there to miss the chances or otherwise they wont be there to score with the other chances. It's no secret I rate JH and his attributes highly but I am slightly concerned at this little dip in front of goal, I just wish people didn't try turn it into a witch hunt but instead gave a little more support around the positives he is still bringing every game which a guy at 5'8" never could. Prisoner Cell Block A
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5:26pm Fri 12 Oct 12

nowt fresh says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
That was an at the time stat, it may have improved after he left Man U but was relevant relating to his time at Newcastle and Manchester. In some games he was scoring threes and fours and only having three and four chances, others he had 20 chances but failed to score. The thing with that and also with James is they have to be there to miss the chances or otherwise they wont be there to score with the other chances. It's no secret I rate JH and his attributes highly but I am slightly concerned at this little dip in front of goal, I just wish people didn't try turn it into a witch hunt but instead gave a little more support around the positives he is still bringing every game which a guy at 5'8" never could.
It does not seem to be the vogue in modern day football to have a "big un" up front with men playing off him I go back to the late 50's watching City and can remember many little and large combinations who during their time were every successful, John Toshack/Kevin Keegan,Peter Crouch/Jermaine Defoe,Nail Quinn/Kevin Phillips,Norman Corner/Bobby Ham,Ian Ormondroyd/Mark Leonard,Alan Warboys/Bruce Bannister, watching Barcelona,Manchester Untd,Chelsea ETC is great but if you have an big un and get decent service to him it can be very rewarding for a team especially if the big un puts him self about to upset the oppositions defence, now if I have any criticism of James it's that he is not physical enough at times ?.
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: That was an at the time stat, it may have improved after he left Man U but was relevant relating to his time at Newcastle and Manchester. In some games he was scoring threes and fours and only having three and four chances, others he had 20 chances but failed to score. The thing with that and also with James is they have to be there to miss the chances or otherwise they wont be there to score with the other chances. It's no secret I rate JH and his attributes highly but I am slightly concerned at this little dip in front of goal, I just wish people didn't try turn it into a witch hunt but instead gave a little more support around the positives he is still bringing every game which a guy at 5'8" never could.[/p][/quote]It does not seem to be the vogue in modern day football to have a "big un" up front with men playing off him I go back to the late 50's watching City and can remember many little and large combinations who during their time were every successful, John Toshack/Kevin Keegan,Peter Crouch/Jermaine Defoe,Nail Quinn/Kevin Phillips,Norman Corner/Bobby Ham,Ian Ormondroyd/Mark Leonard,Alan Warboys/Bruce Bannister, watching Barcelona,Manchester Untd,Chelsea ETC is great but if you have an big un and get decent service to him it can be very rewarding for a team especially if the big un puts him self about to upset the oppositions defence, now if I have any criticism of James it's that he is not physical enough at times ?. nowt fresh
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8:43pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Period Drama says...

Toshack and Keegan my favourite combo after Mills n Boon :)

The problem with a player the size of Hanson is that if he does go in aggressively, even fairly many refs will pull him for it. He gets it now even when its obvious he is the one being fouled and grappled. The only way some ch can handle his size is to grab, the minute he tries to shake free he gets blown. I think with a bit more time and coaching he'll improve on that and other areas.
Toshack and Keegan my favourite combo after Mills n Boon :) The problem with a player the size of Hanson is that if he does go in aggressively, even fairly many refs will pull him for it. He gets it now even when its obvious he is the one being fouled and grappled. The only way some ch can handle his size is to grab, the minute he tries to shake free he gets blown. I think with a bit more time and coaching he'll improve on that and other areas. Period Drama
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11:17pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Waynus1971 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Andy Cole's strike rate was 1/7, he was loved wherever he played, it is the chances created as wel las the correct delivery, the player being on form, the defence making mistakes. He is doing his job well enough for PP to keep him in the side and Andy Davies to comment how much of a good job he does and will continue to do for City. A nice brace tomorrow for him should end all this pointless chatter.
No only is James Hanson Phil Parkinsons first choice,but was also Stuart McCall's,Peter Taylor's,Peter Jackson's,now if some on these boards wanted too they could say whats the common denominator in the above scenario ?? James Hanson !! let's get rid because he does not score enough goals hence the reason we have not achieved whilst James Hanson has been our No 1 striker, laughable really to criticise one of our players when we have played less than 1/4 of the season !!
PS re Andy Cole that is an amazing stat PSBA.
I just want to make clear I have never suggested we 'get rid' or that he doesn't have qualities. In fact I did tell macca69 that I thought he was being harsh.

Hanson does have his qualities and I agree some of the deliveries to him are poor. However, I still maintain he doesn't score enough for our main centre forward. You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is.

I would argue that, as our most played striker, he should be top goal scorer. Despite flitting between a central role and the right wing, Evans, even with all the criticism thrown at him, was only a couple of goals away from Hanson's tally a few seasons ago. We simply haven't played 2 regular strikers since and now we are, Wells is scoring more
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: Andy Cole's strike rate was 1/7, he was loved wherever he played, it is the chances created as wel las the correct delivery, the player being on form, the defence making mistakes. He is doing his job well enough for PP to keep him in the side and Andy Davies to comment how much of a good job he does and will continue to do for City. A nice brace tomorrow for him should end all this pointless chatter.[/p][/quote]No only is James Hanson Phil Parkinsons first choice,but was also Stuart McCall's,Peter Taylor's,Peter Jackson's,now if some on these boards wanted too they could say whats the common denominator in the above scenario ?? James Hanson !! let's get rid because he does not score enough goals hence the reason we have not achieved whilst James Hanson has been our No 1 striker, laughable really to criticise one of our players when we have played less than 1/4 of the season !! PS re Andy Cole that is an amazing stat PSBA.[/p][/quote]I just want to make clear I have never suggested we 'get rid' or that he doesn't have qualities. In fact I did tell macca69 that I thought he was being harsh. Hanson does have his qualities and I agree some of the deliveries to him are poor. However, I still maintain he doesn't score enough for our main centre forward. You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is. I would argue that, as our most played striker, he should be top goal scorer. Despite flitting between a central role and the right wing, Evans, even with all the criticism thrown at him, was only a couple of goals away from Hanson's tally a few seasons ago. We simply haven't played 2 regular strikers since and now we are, Wells is scoring more Waynus1971
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9:48am Sat 13 Oct 12

nowt fresh says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote: Andy Cole's strike rate was 1/7, he was loved wherever he played, it is the chances created as wel las the correct delivery, the player being on form, the defence making mistakes. He is doing his job well enough for PP to keep him in the side and Andy Davies to comment how much of a good job he does and will continue to do for City. A nice brace tomorrow for him should end all this pointless chatter.
No only is James Hanson Phil Parkinsons first choice,but was also Stuart McCall's,Peter Taylor's,Peter Jackson's,now if some on these boards wanted too they could say whats the common denominator in the above scenario ?? James Hanson !! let's get rid because he does not score enough goals hence the reason we have not achieved whilst James Hanson has been our No 1 striker, laughable really to criticise one of our players when we have played less than 1/4 of the season !! PS re Andy Cole that is an amazing stat PSBA.
I just want to make clear I have never suggested we 'get rid' or that he doesn't have qualities. In fact I did tell macca69 that I thought he was being harsh. Hanson does have his qualities and I agree some of the deliveries to him are poor. However, I still maintain he doesn't score enough for our main centre forward. You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is. I would argue that, as our most played striker, he should be top goal scorer. Despite flitting between a central role and the right wing, Evans, even with all the criticism thrown at him, was only a couple of goals away from Hanson's tally a few seasons ago. We simply haven't played 2 regular strikers since and now we are, Wells is scoring more
What is it with you Waynus1971 "You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is" chill out mate it's only my opinion !! and as above when teams have played a little and large strike force it was usually the little guy who scored the most goals,now I'm not back tracking just stating fact,now if Well's is leading scorer fine that could be the catalyst in us winning promotion so it's win win for us City fans, but time will tell and I'll say again IMO James Hanson will finish leading scorer for Bradford City this season.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: Andy Cole's strike rate was 1/7, he was loved wherever he played, it is the chances created as wel las the correct delivery, the player being on form, the defence making mistakes. He is doing his job well enough for PP to keep him in the side and Andy Davies to comment how much of a good job he does and will continue to do for City. A nice brace tomorrow for him should end all this pointless chatter.[/p][/quote]No only is James Hanson Phil Parkinsons first choice,but was also Stuart McCall's,Peter Taylor's,Peter Jackson's,now if some on these boards wanted too they could say whats the common denominator in the above scenario ?? James Hanson !! let's get rid because he does not score enough goals hence the reason we have not achieved whilst James Hanson has been our No 1 striker, laughable really to criticise one of our players when we have played less than 1/4 of the season !! PS re Andy Cole that is an amazing stat PSBA.[/p][/quote]I just want to make clear I have never suggested we 'get rid' or that he doesn't have qualities. In fact I did tell macca69 that I thought he was being harsh. Hanson does have his qualities and I agree some of the deliveries to him are poor. However, I still maintain he doesn't score enough for our main centre forward. You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is. I would argue that, as our most played striker, he should be top goal scorer. Despite flitting between a central role and the right wing, Evans, even with all the criticism thrown at him, was only a couple of goals away from Hanson's tally a few seasons ago. We simply haven't played 2 regular strikers since and now we are, Wells is scoring more[/p][/quote]What is it with you Waynus1971 "You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is" chill out mate it's only my opinion !! and as above when teams have played a little and large strike force it was usually the little guy who scored the most goals,now I'm not back tracking just stating fact,now if Well's is leading scorer fine that could be the catalyst in us winning promotion so it's win win for us City fans, but time will tell and I'll say again IMO James Hanson will finish leading scorer for Bradford City this season. nowt fresh
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12:52pm Sat 13 Oct 12

Waynus1971 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote: Andy Cole's strike rate was 1/7, he was loved wherever he played, it is the chances created as wel las the correct delivery, the player being on form, the defence making mistakes. He is doing his job well enough for PP to keep him in the side and Andy Davies to comment how much of a good job he does and will continue to do for City. A nice brace tomorrow for him should end all this pointless chatter.
No only is James Hanson Phil Parkinsons first choice,but was also Stuart McCall's,Peter Taylor's,Peter Jackson's,now if some on these boards wanted too they could say whats the common denominator in the above scenario ?? James Hanson !! let's get rid because he does not score enough goals hence the reason we have not achieved whilst James Hanson has been our No 1 striker, laughable really to criticise one of our players when we have played less than 1/4 of the season !! PS re Andy Cole that is an amazing stat PSBA.
I just want to make clear I have never suggested we 'get rid' or that he doesn't have qualities. In fact I did tell macca69 that I thought he was being harsh. Hanson does have his qualities and I agree some of the deliveries to him are poor. However, I still maintain he doesn't score enough for our main centre forward. You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is. I would argue that, as our most played striker, he should be top goal scorer. Despite flitting between a central role and the right wing, Evans, even with all the criticism thrown at him, was only a couple of goals away from Hanson's tally a few seasons ago. We simply haven't played 2 regular strikers since and now we are, Wells is scoring more
What is it with you Waynus1971 "You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is" chill out mate it's only my opinion !! and as above when teams have played a little and large strike force it was usually the little guy who scored the most goals,now I'm not back tracking just stating fact,now if Well's is leading scorer fine that could be the catalyst in us winning promotion so it's win win for us City fans, but time will tell and I'll say again IMO James Hanson will finish leading scorer for Bradford City this season.
"What is it with you...", I'll tell you what it is with me. I don't agree with the posters that claim Hanson has a good record in front of goal and I would be happy to wager a bet with you that he will not,
A) score 20+ league goals this season and
B) finish our top scorer.

You suggest I should "chill out", but it is you that is being uber-defensive. I have countered your view of Hanson with one of my own and backed up my reason with stats.

You're the one that tried to make this personal about the player himself and raised an issue from 2yrs ago. You're the one that is now telling me to chill out, just because I'm happy to put my views on the line in a wager.

Perhaps we should all just agree with your views and then you would have no reason to tell other posters to chill..!

I'm happy with my view, my rationale behind that view and if you can't accept I have a differing view, perhaps it is you that needs the chill pill.

One final comment for you. You rightly state that every manager has picked him. What you omit to say is that they have all dropped him too and have publicly said he needs to work harder and take his chances in front of goal....!
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: Andy Cole's strike rate was 1/7, he was loved wherever he played, it is the chances created as wel las the correct delivery, the player being on form, the defence making mistakes. He is doing his job well enough for PP to keep him in the side and Andy Davies to comment how much of a good job he does and will continue to do for City. A nice brace tomorrow for him should end all this pointless chatter.[/p][/quote]No only is James Hanson Phil Parkinsons first choice,but was also Stuart McCall's,Peter Taylor's,Peter Jackson's,now if some on these boards wanted too they could say whats the common denominator in the above scenario ?? James Hanson !! let's get rid because he does not score enough goals hence the reason we have not achieved whilst James Hanson has been our No 1 striker, laughable really to criticise one of our players when we have played less than 1/4 of the season !! PS re Andy Cole that is an amazing stat PSBA.[/p][/quote]I just want to make clear I have never suggested we 'get rid' or that he doesn't have qualities. In fact I did tell macca69 that I thought he was being harsh. Hanson does have his qualities and I agree some of the deliveries to him are poor. However, I still maintain he doesn't score enough for our main centre forward. You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is. I would argue that, as our most played striker, he should be top goal scorer. Despite flitting between a central role and the right wing, Evans, even with all the criticism thrown at him, was only a couple of goals away from Hanson's tally a few seasons ago. We simply haven't played 2 regular strikers since and now we are, Wells is scoring more[/p][/quote]What is it with you Waynus1971 "You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is" chill out mate it's only my opinion !! and as above when teams have played a little and large strike force it was usually the little guy who scored the most goals,now I'm not back tracking just stating fact,now if Well's is leading scorer fine that could be the catalyst in us winning promotion so it's win win for us City fans, but time will tell and I'll say again IMO James Hanson will finish leading scorer for Bradford City this season.[/p][/quote]"What is it with you...", I'll tell you what it is with me. I don't agree with the posters that claim Hanson has a good record in front of goal and I would be happy to wager a bet with you that he will not, A) score 20+ league goals this season and B) finish our top scorer. You suggest I should "chill out", but it is you that is being uber-defensive. I have countered your view of Hanson with one of my own and backed up my reason with stats. You're the one that tried to make this personal about the player himself and raised an issue from 2yrs ago. You're the one that is now telling me to chill out, just because I'm happy to put my views on the line in a wager. Perhaps we should all just agree with your views and then you would have no reason to tell other posters to chill..! I'm happy with my view, my rationale behind that view and if you can't accept I have a differing view, perhaps it is you that needs the chill pill. One final comment for you. You rightly state that every manager has picked him. What you omit to say is that they have all dropped him too and have publicly said he needs to work harder and take his chances in front of goal....! Waynus1971
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1:07pm Sat 13 Oct 12

nowt fresh says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote: Andy Cole's strike rate was 1/7, he was loved wherever he played, it is the chances created as wel las the correct delivery, the player being on form, the defence making mistakes. He is doing his job well enough for PP to keep him in the side and Andy Davies to comment how much of a good job he does and will continue to do for City. A nice brace tomorrow for him should end all this pointless chatter.
No only is James Hanson Phil Parkinsons first choice,but was also Stuart McCall's,Peter Taylor's,Peter Jackson's,now if some on these boards wanted too they could say whats the common denominator in the above scenario ?? James Hanson !! let's get rid because he does not score enough goals hence the reason we have not achieved whilst James Hanson has been our No 1 striker, laughable really to criticise one of our players when we have played less than 1/4 of the season !! PS re Andy Cole that is an amazing stat PSBA.
I just want to make clear I have never suggested we 'get rid' or that he doesn't have qualities. In fact I did tell macca69 that I thought he was being harsh. Hanson does have his qualities and I agree some of the deliveries to him are poor. However, I still maintain he doesn't score enough for our main centre forward. You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is. I would argue that, as our most played striker, he should be top goal scorer. Despite flitting between a central role and the right wing, Evans, even with all the criticism thrown at him, was only a couple of goals away from Hanson's tally a few seasons ago. We simply haven't played 2 regular strikers since and now we are, Wells is scoring more
What is it with you Waynus1971 "You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is" chill out mate it's only my opinion !! and as above when teams have played a little and large strike force it was usually the little guy who scored the most goals,now I'm not back tracking just stating fact,now if Well's is leading scorer fine that could be the catalyst in us winning promotion so it's win win for us City fans, but time will tell and I'll say again IMO James Hanson will finish leading scorer for Bradford City this season.
"What is it with you...", I'll tell you what it is with me. I don't agree with the posters that claim Hanson has a good record in front of goal and I would be happy to wager a bet with you that he will not, A) score 20+ league goals this season and B) finish our top scorer. You suggest I should "chill out", but it is you that is being uber-defensive. I have countered your view of Hanson with one of my own and backed up my reason with stats. You're the one that tried to make this personal about the player himself and raised an issue from 2yrs ago. You're the one that is now telling me to chill out, just because I'm happy to put my views on the line in a wager. Perhaps we should all just agree with your views and then you would have no reason to tell other posters to chill..! I'm happy with my view, my rationale behind that view and if you can't accept I have a differing view, perhaps it is you that needs the chill pill. One final comment for you. You rightly state that every manager has picked him. What you omit to say is that they have all dropped him too and have publicly said he needs to work harder and take his chances in front of goal....!
Get over yourself Waynus1971 "I'll put my money where my mouth is" BIG MAN
You was the one who made the James Hanson comment re his drinking (be it 2 or 22 years ago) hence my comment to Dave2610 that you had previous,don't reply with "a novel" I do get your point just don't agree with it !!
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: Andy Cole's strike rate was 1/7, he was loved wherever he played, it is the chances created as wel las the correct delivery, the player being on form, the defence making mistakes. He is doing his job well enough for PP to keep him in the side and Andy Davies to comment how much of a good job he does and will continue to do for City. A nice brace tomorrow for him should end all this pointless chatter.[/p][/quote]No only is James Hanson Phil Parkinsons first choice,but was also Stuart McCall's,Peter Taylor's,Peter Jackson's,now if some on these boards wanted too they could say whats the common denominator in the above scenario ?? James Hanson !! let's get rid because he does not score enough goals hence the reason we have not achieved whilst James Hanson has been our No 1 striker, laughable really to criticise one of our players when we have played less than 1/4 of the season !! PS re Andy Cole that is an amazing stat PSBA.[/p][/quote]I just want to make clear I have never suggested we 'get rid' or that he doesn't have qualities. In fact I did tell macca69 that I thought he was being harsh. Hanson does have his qualities and I agree some of the deliveries to him are poor. However, I still maintain he doesn't score enough for our main centre forward. You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is. I would argue that, as our most played striker, he should be top goal scorer. Despite flitting between a central role and the right wing, Evans, even with all the criticism thrown at him, was only a couple of goals away from Hanson's tally a few seasons ago. We simply haven't played 2 regular strikers since and now we are, Wells is scoring more[/p][/quote]What is it with you Waynus1971 "You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is" chill out mate it's only my opinion !! and as above when teams have played a little and large strike force it was usually the little guy who scored the most goals,now I'm not back tracking just stating fact,now if Well's is leading scorer fine that could be the catalyst in us winning promotion so it's win win for us City fans, but time will tell and I'll say again IMO James Hanson will finish leading scorer for Bradford City this season.[/p][/quote]"What is it with you...", I'll tell you what it is with me. I don't agree with the posters that claim Hanson has a good record in front of goal and I would be happy to wager a bet with you that he will not, A) score 20+ league goals this season and B) finish our top scorer. You suggest I should "chill out", but it is you that is being uber-defensive. I have countered your view of Hanson with one of my own and backed up my reason with stats. You're the one that tried to make this personal about the player himself and raised an issue from 2yrs ago. You're the one that is now telling me to chill out, just because I'm happy to put my views on the line in a wager. Perhaps we should all just agree with your views and then you would have no reason to tell other posters to chill..! I'm happy with my view, my rationale behind that view and if you can't accept I have a differing view, perhaps it is you that needs the chill pill. One final comment for you. You rightly state that every manager has picked him. What you omit to say is that they have all dropped him too and have publicly said he needs to work harder and take his chances in front of goal....![/p][/quote]Get over yourself Waynus1971 "I'll put my money where my mouth is" BIG MAN You was the one who made the James Hanson comment re his drinking (be it 2 or 22 years ago) hence my comment to Dave2610 that you had previous,don't reply with "a novel" I do get your point just don't agree with it !! nowt fresh
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nowt fresh wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote: Andy Cole's strike rate was 1/7, he was loved wherever he played, it is the chances created as wel las the correct delivery, the player being on form, the defence making mistakes. He is doing his job well enough for PP to keep him in the side and Andy Davies to comment how much of a good job he does and will continue to do for City. A nice brace tomorrow for him should end all this pointless chatter.
No only is James Hanson Phil Parkinsons first choice,but was also Stuart McCall's,Peter Taylor's,Peter Jackson's,now if some on these boards wanted too they could say whats the common denominator in the above scenario ?? James Hanson !! let's get rid because he does not score enough goals hence the reason we have not achieved whilst James Hanson has been our No 1 striker, laughable really to criticise one of our players when we have played less than 1/4 of the season !! PS re Andy Cole that is an amazing stat PSBA.
I just want to make clear I have never suggested we 'get rid' or that he doesn't have qualities. In fact I did tell macca69 that I thought he was being harsh. Hanson does have his qualities and I agree some of the deliveries to him are poor. However, I still maintain he doesn't score enough for our main centre forward. You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is. I would argue that, as our most played striker, he should be top goal scorer. Despite flitting between a central role and the right wing, Evans, even with all the criticism thrown at him, was only a couple of goals away from Hanson's tally a few seasons ago. We simply haven't played 2 regular strikers since and now we are, Wells is scoring more
What is it with you Waynus1971 "You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is" chill out mate it's only my opinion !! and as above when teams have played a little and large strike force it was usually the little guy who scored the most goals,now I'm not back tracking just stating fact,now if Well's is leading scorer fine that could be the catalyst in us winning promotion so it's win win for us City fans, but time will tell and I'll say again IMO James Hanson will finish leading scorer for Bradford City this season.
"What is it with you...", I'll tell you what it is with me. I don't agree with the posters that claim Hanson has a good record in front of goal and I would be happy to wager a bet with you that he will not, A) score 20+ league goals this season and B) finish our top scorer. You suggest I should "chill out", but it is you that is being uber-defensive. I have countered your view of Hanson with one of my own and backed up my reason with stats. You're the one that tried to make this personal about the player himself and raised an issue from 2yrs ago. You're the one that is now telling me to chill out, just because I'm happy to put my views on the line in a wager. Perhaps we should all just agree with your views and then you would have no reason to tell other posters to chill..! I'm happy with my view, my rationale behind that view and if you can't accept I have a differing view, perhaps it is you that needs the chill pill. One final comment for you. You rightly state that every manager has picked him. What you omit to say is that they have all dropped him too and have publicly said he needs to work harder and take his chances in front of goal....!
Get over yourself Waynus1971 "I'll put my money where my mouth is" BIG MAN
You was the one who made the James Hanson comment re his drinking (be it 2 or 22 years ago) hence my comment to Dave2610 that you had previous,don't reply with "a novel" I do get your point just don't agree with it !!
How we going to arrange this wager then? I bet you £20 that Hanson does not score 20 league goals this season and a further £10 that he doesn't finish top scorer. Deal?

As for the drinking comment, should I question every time someone picks up a fault of Oliver? I'm sure we have hundreds of fans that had "previous" with him...!
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: Andy Cole's strike rate was 1/7, he was loved wherever he played, it is the chances created as wel las the correct delivery, the player being on form, the defence making mistakes. He is doing his job well enough for PP to keep him in the side and Andy Davies to comment how much of a good job he does and will continue to do for City. A nice brace tomorrow for him should end all this pointless chatter.[/p][/quote]No only is James Hanson Phil Parkinsons first choice,but was also Stuart McCall's,Peter Taylor's,Peter Jackson's,now if some on these boards wanted too they could say whats the common denominator in the above scenario ?? James Hanson !! let's get rid because he does not score enough goals hence the reason we have not achieved whilst James Hanson has been our No 1 striker, laughable really to criticise one of our players when we have played less than 1/4 of the season !! PS re Andy Cole that is an amazing stat PSBA.[/p][/quote]I just want to make clear I have never suggested we 'get rid' or that he doesn't have qualities. In fact I did tell macca69 that I thought he was being harsh. Hanson does have his qualities and I agree some of the deliveries to him are poor. However, I still maintain he doesn't score enough for our main centre forward. You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is. I would argue that, as our most played striker, he should be top goal scorer. Despite flitting between a central role and the right wing, Evans, even with all the criticism thrown at him, was only a couple of goals away from Hanson's tally a few seasons ago. We simply haven't played 2 regular strikers since and now we are, Wells is scoring more[/p][/quote]What is it with you Waynus1971 "You say he WILL finish top scorer, I beg to differ and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is" chill out mate it's only my opinion !! and as above when teams have played a little and large strike force it was usually the little guy who scored the most goals,now I'm not back tracking just stating fact,now if Well's is leading scorer fine that could be the catalyst in us winning promotion so it's win win for us City fans, but time will tell and I'll say again IMO James Hanson will finish leading scorer for Bradford City this season.[/p][/quote]"What is it with you...", I'll tell you what it is with me. I don't agree with the posters that claim Hanson has a good record in front of goal and I would be happy to wager a bet with you that he will not, A) score 20+ league goals this season and B) finish our top scorer. You suggest I should "chill out", but it is you that is being uber-defensive. I have countered your view of Hanson with one of my own and backed up my reason with stats. You're the one that tried to make this personal about the player himself and raised an issue from 2yrs ago. You're the one that is now telling me to chill out, just because I'm happy to put my views on the line in a wager. Perhaps we should all just agree with your views and then you would have no reason to tell other posters to chill..! I'm happy with my view, my rationale behind that view and if you can't accept I have a differing view, perhaps it is you that needs the chill pill. One final comment for you. You rightly state that every manager has picked him. What you omit to say is that they have all dropped him too and have publicly said he needs to work harder and take his chances in front of goal....![/p][/quote]Get over yourself Waynus1971 "I'll put my money where my mouth is" BIG MAN You was the one who made the James Hanson comment re his drinking (be it 2 or 22 years ago) hence my comment to Dave2610 that you had previous,don't reply with "a novel" I do get your point just don't agree with it !![/p][/quote]How we going to arrange this wager then? I bet you £20 that Hanson does not score 20 league goals this season and a further £10 that he doesn't finish top scorer. Deal? As for the drinking comment, should I question every time someone picks up a fault of Oliver? I'm sure we have hundreds of fans that had "previous" with him...! Waynus1971
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