City end Moncur's loan spell

Stuart McCall could not commit to a long-term deal for TJ Moncur

Stuart McCall could not commit to a long-term deal for TJ Moncur

First published in Sport Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , Bradford City Reporter

City have sent TJ Moncur back to Fulham.

Stuart McCall hopes to keep Nicky Law, Steve Jones and Dean Furman at Valley Parade but Moncur will not be staying with them.

The 21-year-old defender made 14 starts in his second loan spell with the Bantams. One more would have activated a clause which meant City had to offer him an 18-month deal.

McCall said: “With TJ out of contract at the end of the season, he was looking for something long-term but we couldn’t commit to that here.

“He has done ever so well in certain games and given us a bit of added pace when we’ve needed it. I remember at Wycombe when he was excellent going forward and there have been other good games.

“But he’s just dipped a little bit recently and, with Paul Arnison coming back and doing well, we made the decision he could go back.

“He’s enjoyed his time here and is happy with the experience he has got. Last season was his first in the first team and he played his part.

“Hopefully he will go on and have a decent career in the game and can look back on his time here as a good building block.”

Moncur’s loan is not officially up until Saturday but he has been suffering with slight tendinitis behind his knee and would not have been in the squad to face Shrewsbury anyway.

Meanwhile, McCall is waiting for confirmation from Sheffield United boss Kevin Blackwell that Law can stay until May.

Rangers have already agreed to let Furman see out the season south of the border and Burnley should allow Jones to remain for at least another month.

McCall believes the former Northern Ireland winger, who is looking sharper with each game, can also fill in as a striker – the role where he scored regularly for Crewe.

City have been linked with a move for Bury’s prolific hitman Andy Bishop.

The former York striker, who has broken the 20-goal barrier in each of the last three seasons, is out of contract at Gigg Lane in the summer and is believed to be stalling on his future.

Despite attracting Championship interest from Norwich and Burnley last summer, Bishop stayed with Bury and has netted 11 goals this term.

McCall revealed: “We asked about him a month ago to see what the situation was with regard to his contract but I’ve not taken it further with any personal inquiry.”

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9:36am Thu 1 Jan 09

s.b.c says...

What a wonderfull start to the new year. Will never make a foorballer in at thousand years. Classy name though
What a wonderfull start to the new year. Will never make a foorballer in at thousand years. Classy name though s.b.c
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9:45am Thu 1 Jan 09

wykechris says...

right decision. TJ not samae player as last season. Can`t see Bury lettig Bishop go to one of their rivals
right decision. TJ not samae player as last season. Can`t see Bury lettig Bishop go to one of their rivals wykechris
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11:24am Thu 1 Jan 09

Halifax Bantam says...

TJ didnt have best of spells with us this spells with us this year, but his position ic CB not RB and he never let us down at CB. Good lucck to him wherever he goes from here, am worried now at the lack of pace in the defence, Arnision, Lee and Clarke arent the quickest and we've seen earlier in the season that teams will put a pacey player against Arni and we could well be in trouble!
TJ didnt have best of spells with us this spells with us this year, but his position ic CB not RB and he never let us down at CB. Good lucck to him wherever he goes from here, am worried now at the lack of pace in the defence, Arnision, Lee and Clarke arent the quickest and we've seen earlier in the season that teams will put a pacey player against Arni and we could well be in trouble! Halifax Bantam
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11:48am Thu 1 Jan 09

ricky says...

think stu must have a defender in mind if allowing tj to go back i know it states if he played another game we would have had to offer him an 18 month contract but reading between the lines i think stu as someone in mind as for andy bishop would be a very good signing but i wonder if bishop would want to wait till summer to review his options due to being out of contract also see dagenhams ben strevens may be on the move(heard £75000 clause in his contract allows him to leave) he would be another good signing similar to baz in his presence and as scored goals on regular basis for last few seasons
think stu must have a defender in mind if allowing tj to go back i know it states if he played another game we would have had to offer him an 18 month contract but reading between the lines i think stu as someone in mind as for andy bishop would be a very good signing but i wonder if bishop would want to wait till summer to review his options due to being out of contract also see dagenhams ben strevens may be on the move(heard £75000 clause in his contract allows him to leave) he would be another good signing similar to baz in his presence and as scored goals on regular basis for last few seasons ricky
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1:03pm Thu 1 Jan 09

Halifax Bantam says...

Have heard that SM is interested in Non league players Cody McCdonald and Robin Shroot.
McCdonald is a big powerful forward with Dartford who has scored 12 in 12 and Shroot is unbelievable midfield talent with some championship clubs alrady having looked at him, he's scored 11 in 14 games.
If this is true they would be quality additions and players who will be dying to prove themselves in the league.
C'mon City lets have some exciting prospects down at VP insted of the usaul 30+ players.
Have heard that SM is interested in Non league players Cody McCdonald and Robin Shroot. McCdonald is a big powerful forward with Dartford who has scored 12 in 12 and Shroot is unbelievable midfield talent with some championship clubs alrady having looked at him, he's scored 11 in 14 games. If this is true they would be quality additions and players who will be dying to prove themselves in the league. C'mon City lets have some exciting prospects down at VP insted of the usaul 30+ players. Halifax Bantam
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2:32pm Thu 1 Jan 09

dannbradfc says...

Halifax Bantam wrote:
Have heard that SM is interested in Non league players Cody McCdonald and Robin Shroot. McCdonald is a big powerful forward with Dartford who has scored 12 in 12 and Shroot is unbelievable midfield talent with some championship clubs alrady having looked at him, he's scored 11 in 14 games. If this is true they would be quality additions and players who will be dying to prove themselves in the league. C'mon City lets have some exciting prospects down at VP insted of the usaul 30+ players.
I would also like to see a couple of young hungry players with something to prove. Yes we have our own youngsters but like the two mentioned they are doing it albeit in the conference but not much of a gap these days betwen the leagues. Who knows this way we may find a gem and at the least they may prove valuable squad members.

As for TJ he was certainly not very popular amongst the T & A contributers however this season he was played nigh on constantly out of position. Good luck to him but not this season. We must have someone in mind for this to happen although we do have Ainge, Hecky and Bower to come in as options. Hope we dont need Hecky though.

Happy new to ALL City fans everywhere and fingers crossed we will be celebrating a great year around May and beating l***s about Novenber.
[quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Have heard that SM is interested in Non league players Cody McCdonald and Robin Shroot. McCdonald is a big powerful forward with Dartford who has scored 12 in 12 and Shroot is unbelievable midfield talent with some championship clubs alrady having looked at him, he's scored 11 in 14 games. If this is true they would be quality additions and players who will be dying to prove themselves in the league. C'mon City lets have some exciting prospects down at VP insted of the usaul 30+ players.[/p][/quote]I would also like to see a couple of young hungry players with something to prove. Yes we have our own youngsters but like the two mentioned they are doing it albeit in the conference but not much of a gap these days betwen the leagues. Who knows this way we may find a gem and at the least they may prove valuable squad members. As for TJ he was certainly not very popular amongst the T & A contributers however this season he was played nigh on constantly out of position. Good luck to him but not this season. We must have someone in mind for this to happen although we do have Ainge, Hecky and Bower to come in as options. Hope we dont need Hecky though. Happy new to ALL City fans everywhere and fingers crossed we will be celebrating a great year around May and beating l***s about Novenber. dannbradfc
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3:27pm Thu 1 Jan 09

1chop says...

Re TJ - SM says “But he’s just dipped a little bit recently and, with Paul Arnison coming back and doing well, we made the decision he could go back."

Nothing to do with that clause about offering a contract if he played another game then? Lucky that his form dipped just at the right time then!
Re TJ - SM says “But he’s just dipped a little bit recently and, with Paul Arnison coming back and doing well, we made the decision he could go back." Nothing to do with that clause about offering a contract if he played another game then? Lucky that his form dipped just at the right time then! 1chop
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4:34pm Thu 1 Jan 09

Utters says...

Just read on sky that he's signed for Wycombe. Fast work to say we only sent him back to Fulham this morning. A cynic might think something a bit fishy has been going on!?

Good luck to the lad but we've been much better since he was dropped.
Just read on sky that he's signed for Wycombe. Fast work to say we only sent him back to Fulham this morning. A cynic might think something a bit fishy has been going on!? Good luck to the lad but we've been much better since he was dropped. Utters
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6:42pm Thu 1 Jan 09

ricky says...

dannbradfc wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Have heard that SM is interested in Non league players Cody McCdonald and Robin Shroot. McCdonald is a big powerful forward with Dartford who has scored 12 in 12 and Shroot is unbelievable midfield talent with some championship clubs alrady having looked at him, he's scored 11 in 14 games. If this is true they would be quality additions and players who will be dying to prove themselves in the league. C'mon City lets have some exciting prospects down at VP insted of the usaul 30+ players.
I would also like to see a couple of young hungry players with something to prove. Yes we have our own youngsters but like the two mentioned they are doing it albeit in the conference but not much of a gap these days betwen the leagues. Who knows this way we may find a gem and at the least they may prove valuable squad members. As for TJ he was certainly not very popular amongst the T & A contributers however this season he was played nigh on constantly out of position. Good luck to him but not this season. We must have someone in mind for this to happen although we do have Ainge, Hecky and Bower to come in as options. Hope we dont need Hecky though. Happy new to ALL City fans everywhere and fingers crossed we will be celebrating a great year around May and beating l***s about Novenber.
just been looking at the players named above robin shroot as meant to of signed for birmingham on a 2 and half year deal for a small fee but dont know if it as gone through yet
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Have heard that SM is interested in Non league players Cody McCdonald and Robin Shroot. McCdonald is a big powerful forward with Dartford who has scored 12 in 12 and Shroot is unbelievable midfield talent with some championship clubs alrady having looked at him, he's scored 11 in 14 games. If this is true they would be quality additions and players who will be dying to prove themselves in the league. C'mon City lets have some exciting prospects down at VP insted of the usaul 30+ players.[/p][/quote]I would also like to see a couple of young hungry players with something to prove. Yes we have our own youngsters but like the two mentioned they are doing it albeit in the conference but not much of a gap these days betwen the leagues. Who knows this way we may find a gem and at the least they may prove valuable squad members. As for TJ he was certainly not very popular amongst the T & A contributers however this season he was played nigh on constantly out of position. Good luck to him but not this season. We must have someone in mind for this to happen although we do have Ainge, Hecky and Bower to come in as options. Hope we dont need Hecky though. Happy new to ALL City fans everywhere and fingers crossed we will be celebrating a great year around May and beating l***s about Novenber.[/p][/quote]just been looking at the players named above robin shroot as meant to of signed for birmingham on a 2 and half year deal for a small fee but dont know if it as gone through yet ricky
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7:16pm Thu 1 Jan 09

james lees says...

Thank God.He was more like T J Hooker than a footballer.Could'nt tackle for toffee.Maybe the lesser of two evil's though.Arnison is worse than him!!!!!
Thank God.He was more like T J Hooker than a footballer.Could'nt tackle for toffee.Maybe the lesser of two evil's though.Arnison is worse than him!!!!! james lees
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7:24pm Thu 1 Jan 09

StaffsBantam says...

Shroot has gone to Brum - confirmed.
Shroot has gone to Brum - confirmed. StaffsBantam
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8:06pm Thu 1 Jan 09

Halifax Bantam says...

Shame, he probaby wont even get a game there and would have been a great additon, like i said there were a lot of clubs sniffing around him, thanks for the update.
Shame, he probaby wont even get a game there and would have been a great additon, like i said there were a lot of clubs sniffing around him, thanks for the update. Halifax Bantam
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8:24pm Thu 1 Jan 09

Waynus says...

Utters wrote:
Just read on sky that he's signed for Wycombe. Fast work to say we only sent him back to Fulham this morning. A cynic might think something a bit fishy has been going on!?

Good luck to the lad but we've been much better since he was dropped.
Been looking into this and haven't found anything about him joining Wycombe. I checked Fulham's site, Wycombe's site and the sky.com site too. Something definitely going on.

As for the clause, it is the first time I have ever heard of a clause being added on a loanee that states a club is obliged to offer a contract after playing so many games. What about everyone else, have they heard of this clause before?

Personally, I am pleased he has been sent back. He (and McCall) claim right-back is his preferred/natural position. However, he has been woeful in that position and clearly looks better in the centre. Hopefully, Fulham's coaching staff can persuade him his career in football is as a centre-back.

Finally, I don't think we should be looking at the conference, unless there are players that won't command a fee and they are few and far between. Players such as Theo Robinson, who have performed in this league already, are a better option.

If we have a little money spare, what about making an offer for Strevens or Benson from D&R or perhaps Hatch or Clarke currently both on loan at Darlo.
[quote][p][bold]Utters[/bold] wrote: Just read on sky that he's signed for Wycombe. Fast work to say we only sent him back to Fulham this morning. A cynic might think something a bit fishy has been going on!? Good luck to the lad but we've been much better since he was dropped.[/p][/quote]Been looking into this and haven't found anything about him joining Wycombe. I checked Fulham's site, Wycombe's site and the sky.com site too. Something definitely going on. As for the clause, it is the first time I have ever heard of a clause being added on a loanee that states a club is obliged to offer a contract after playing so many games. What about everyone else, have they heard of this clause before? Personally, I am pleased he has been sent back. He (and McCall) claim right-back is his preferred/natural position. However, he has been woeful in that position and clearly looks better in the centre. Hopefully, Fulham's coaching staff can persuade him his career in football is as a centre-back. Finally, I don't think we should be looking at the conference, unless there are players that won't command a fee and they are few and far between. Players such as Theo Robinson, who have performed in this league already, are a better option. If we have a little money spare, what about making an offer for Strevens or Benson from D&R or perhaps Hatch or Clarke currently both on loan at Darlo. Waynus
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10:56pm Thu 1 Jan 09

Bradford1903 says...

I said the other day that I would like to see us keep TJ until the end of the season to provide cover at full back and centre half. However after hearing about this clause, it's the right decision to release him, as his displays did not warrant a permanent contract.

I thought it was a bit odd that he didn't make the bench in recent games, when there was no mention of an injury, now I know why!

Good news about Furman, and as much as I'd like to see us sign Bishop, I doubt we'd be able to afford him.
I said the other day that I would like to see us keep TJ until the end of the season to provide cover at full back and centre half. However after hearing about this clause, it's the right decision to release him, as his displays did not warrant a permanent contract. I thought it was a bit odd that he didn't make the bench in recent games, when there was no mention of an injury, now I know why! Good news about Furman, and as much as I'd like to see us sign Bishop, I doubt we'd be able to afford him. Bradford1903
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10:15am Fri 2 Jan 09

Halifax Bantam says...

Waynus wrote:
Utters wrote: Just read on sky that he's signed for Wycombe. Fast work to say we only sent him back to Fulham this morning. A cynic might think something a bit fishy has been going on!? Good luck to the lad but we've been much better since he was dropped.
Been looking into this and haven't found anything about him joining Wycombe. I checked Fulham's site, Wycombe's site and the sky.com site too. Something definitely going on. As for the clause, it is the first time I have ever heard of a clause being added on a loanee that states a club is obliged to offer a contract after playing so many games. What about everyone else, have they heard of this clause before? Personally, I am pleased he has been sent back. He (and McCall) claim right-back is his preferred/natural position. However, he has been woeful in that position and clearly looks better in the centre. Hopefully, Fulham's coaching staff can persuade him his career in football is as a centre-back. Finally, I don't think we should be looking at the conference, unless there are players that won't command a fee and they are few and far between. Players such as Theo Robinson, who have performed in this league already, are a better option. If we have a little money spare, what about making an offer for Strevens or Benson from D&R or perhaps Hatch or Clarke currently both on loan at Darlo.
The thing is Waynus, we would would love to be able to splash some cash on the players you mentioned but it's wether or not we could afford them, even if Benson has a £75000 buy out clause could we afford the fee and then his wages?
As for looking at the conference, why not? Birmingham have millions to spend but chose to buy the Shroot kid (and Birmingham werent the only ones interested in him)for a nominal fee, if championship clubs are looking in that league we shouldnt think we're above it.
Lets not look at some more players from Div 1 that are 30+ and are who coming to the end of their careers and fancy an easy time at VP like some of the players sigined in the summer.
I hope we can look to build a side that could take us forward for next few seasons, like Hull did when they were in this div.
Was also confirmed on Sky last night that TJ has gone to Wycombe and is in the squad for Sat, strange that when you consider that SM said that he had tedonitus and wouldnt have been available if we'd kept him???
[quote][p][bold]Waynus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Utters[/bold] wrote: Just read on sky that he's signed for Wycombe. Fast work to say we only sent him back to Fulham this morning. A cynic might think something a bit fishy has been going on!? Good luck to the lad but we've been much better since he was dropped.[/p][/quote]Been looking into this and haven't found anything about him joining Wycombe. I checked Fulham's site, Wycombe's site and the sky.com site too. Something definitely going on. As for the clause, it is the first time I have ever heard of a clause being added on a loanee that states a club is obliged to offer a contract after playing so many games. What about everyone else, have they heard of this clause before? Personally, I am pleased he has been sent back. He (and McCall) claim right-back is his preferred/natural position. However, he has been woeful in that position and clearly looks better in the centre. Hopefully, Fulham's coaching staff can persuade him his career in football is as a centre-back. Finally, I don't think we should be looking at the conference, unless there are players that won't command a fee and they are few and far between. Players such as Theo Robinson, who have performed in this league already, are a better option. If we have a little money spare, what about making an offer for Strevens or Benson from D&R or perhaps Hatch or Clarke currently both on loan at Darlo. [/p][/quote]The thing is Waynus, we would would love to be able to splash some cash on the players you mentioned but it's wether or not we could afford them, even if Benson has a £75000 buy out clause could we afford the fee and then his wages? As for looking at the conference, why not? Birmingham have millions to spend but chose to buy the Shroot kid (and Birmingham werent the only ones interested in him)for a nominal fee, if championship clubs are looking in that league we shouldnt think we're above it. Lets not look at some more players from Div 1 that are 30+ and are who coming to the end of their careers and fancy an easy time at VP like some of the players sigined in the summer. I hope we can look to build a side that could take us forward for next few seasons, like Hull did when they were in this div. Was also confirmed on Sky last night that TJ has gone to Wycombe and is in the squad for Sat, strange that when you consider that SM said that he had tedonitus and wouldnt have been available if we'd kept him??? Halifax Bantam
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10:28am Fri 2 Jan 09

dannbradfc says...

Halifax Bantam wrote:
Waynus wrote:
Utters wrote: Just read on sky that he's signed for Wycombe. Fast work to say we only sent him back to Fulham this morning. A cynic might think something a bit fishy has been going on!? Good luck to the lad but we've been much better since he was dropped.
Been looking into this and haven't found anything about him joining Wycombe. I checked Fulham's site, Wycombe's site and the sky.com site too. Something definitely going on. As for the clause, it is the first time I have ever heard of a clause being added on a loanee that states a club is obliged to offer a contract after playing so many games. What about everyone else, have they heard of this clause before? Personally, I am pleased he has been sent back. He (and McCall) claim right-back is his preferred/natural position. However, he has been woeful in that position and clearly looks better in the centre. Hopefully, Fulham's coaching staff can persuade him his career in football is as a centre-back. Finally, I don't think we should be looking at the conference, unless there are players that won't command a fee and they are few and far between. Players such as Theo Robinson, who have performed in this league already, are a better option. If we have a little money spare, what about making an offer for Strevens or Benson from D&R or perhaps Hatch or Clarke currently both on loan at Darlo.
The thing is Waynus, we would would love to be able to splash some cash on the players you mentioned but it's wether or not we could afford them, even if Benson has a £75000 buy out clause could we afford the fee and then his wages? As for looking at the conference, why not? Birmingham have millions to spend but chose to buy the Shroot kid (and Birmingham werent the only ones interested in him)for a nominal fee, if championship clubs are looking in that league we shouldnt think we're above it. Lets not look at some more players from Div 1 that are 30+ and are who coming to the end of their careers and fancy an easy time at VP like some of the players sigined in the summer. I hope we can look to build a side that could take us forward for next few seasons, like Hull did when they were in this div. Was also confirmed on Sky last night that TJ has gone to Wycombe and is in the squad for Sat, strange that when you consider that SM said that he had tedonitus and wouldnt have been available if we'd kept him???
I agree dont know where some people think the money is coming from. How many players have we paid for exactly in the last 7 years? Topp, who else? We wouldn't even payfor that Halifax player (whose name, i forget) so cant see us buying/been able to afford fee's of higher league clubs. Scouting for young 'uns is the way to go or pay for loans to see if they can do a job. Whether Stu would change is strategy of more experinced players is another question, and thus would negate the bringing in of untried youth.
[quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Utters[/bold] wrote: Just read on sky that he's signed for Wycombe. Fast work to say we only sent him back to Fulham this morning. A cynic might think something a bit fishy has been going on!? Good luck to the lad but we've been much better since he was dropped.[/p][/quote]Been looking into this and haven't found anything about him joining Wycombe. I checked Fulham's site, Wycombe's site and the sky.com site too. Something definitely going on. As for the clause, it is the first time I have ever heard of a clause being added on a loanee that states a club is obliged to offer a contract after playing so many games. What about everyone else, have they heard of this clause before? Personally, I am pleased he has been sent back. He (and McCall) claim right-back is his preferred/natural position. However, he has been woeful in that position and clearly looks better in the centre. Hopefully, Fulham's coaching staff can persuade him his career in football is as a centre-back. Finally, I don't think we should be looking at the conference, unless there are players that won't command a fee and they are few and far between. Players such as Theo Robinson, who have performed in this league already, are a better option. If we have a little money spare, what about making an offer for Strevens or Benson from D&R or perhaps Hatch or Clarke currently both on loan at Darlo. [/p][/quote]The thing is Waynus, we would would love to be able to splash some cash on the players you mentioned but it's wether or not we could afford them, even if Benson has a £75000 buy out clause could we afford the fee and then his wages? As for looking at the conference, why not? Birmingham have millions to spend but chose to buy the Shroot kid (and Birmingham werent the only ones interested in him)for a nominal fee, if championship clubs are looking in that league we shouldnt think we're above it. Lets not look at some more players from Div 1 that are 30+ and are who coming to the end of their careers and fancy an easy time at VP like some of the players sigined in the summer. I hope we can look to build a side that could take us forward for next few seasons, like Hull did when they were in this div. Was also confirmed on Sky last night that TJ has gone to Wycombe and is in the squad for Sat, strange that when you consider that SM said that he had tedonitus and wouldnt have been available if we'd kept him???[/p][/quote]I agree dont know where some people think the money is coming from. How many players have we paid for exactly in the last 7 years? Topp, who else? We wouldn't even payfor that Halifax player (whose name, i forget) so cant see us buying/been able to afford fee's of higher league clubs. Scouting for young 'uns is the way to go or pay for loans to see if they can do a job. Whether Stu would change is strategy of more experinced players is another question, and thus would negate the bringing in of untried youth. dannbradfc
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12:14pm Fri 2 Jan 09

ricky says...

dannbradfc wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote:
Waynus wrote:
Utters wrote: Just read on sky that he's signed for Wycombe. Fast work to say we only sent him back to Fulham this morning. A cynic might think something a bit fishy has been going on!? Good luck to the lad but we've been much better since he was dropped.
Been looking into this and haven't found anything about him joining Wycombe. I checked Fulham's site, Wycombe's site and the sky.com site too. Something definitely going on. As for the clause, it is the first time I have ever heard of a clause being added on a loanee that states a club is obliged to offer a contract after playing so many games. What about everyone else, have they heard of this clause before? Personally, I am pleased he has been sent back. He (and McCall) claim right-back is his preferred/natural position. However, he has been woeful in that position and clearly looks better in the centre. Hopefully, Fulham's coaching staff can persuade him his career in football is as a centre-back. Finally, I don't think we should be looking at the conference, unless there are players that won't command a fee and they are few and far between. Players such as Theo Robinson, who have performed in this league already, are a better option. If we have a little money spare, what about making an offer for Strevens or Benson from D&R or perhaps Hatch or Clarke currently both on loan at Darlo.
The thing is Waynus, we would would love to be able to splash some cash on the players you mentioned but it's wether or not we could afford them, even if Benson has a £75000 buy out clause could we afford the fee and then his wages? As for looking at the conference, why not? Birmingham have millions to spend but chose to buy the Shroot kid (and Birmingham werent the only ones interested in him)for a nominal fee, if championship clubs are looking in that league we shouldnt think we're above it. Lets not look at some more players from Div 1 that are 30+ and are who coming to the end of their careers and fancy an easy time at VP like some of the players sigined in the summer. I hope we can look to build a side that could take us forward for next few seasons, like Hull did when they were in this div. Was also confirmed on Sky last night that TJ has gone to Wycombe and is in the squad for Sat, strange that when you consider that SM said that he had tedonitus and wouldnt have been available if we'd kept him???
I agree dont know where some people think the money is coming from. How many players have we paid for exactly in the last 7 years? Topp, who else? We wouldn't even payfor that Halifax player (whose name, i forget) so cant see us buying/been able to afford fee's of higher league clubs. Scouting for young 'uns is the way to go or pay for loans to see if they can do a job. Whether Stu would change is strategy of more experinced players is another question, and thus would negate the bringing in of untried youth.
calm down boys getting on it was me not waynus who said strevens not benson who has a £75000 clause in his contract and my point was stu had said he might spend some money and all i was doing was putting names forward who could do a job for us
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Utters[/bold] wrote: Just read on sky that he's signed for Wycombe. Fast work to say we only sent him back to Fulham this morning. A cynic might think something a bit fishy has been going on!? Good luck to the lad but we've been much better since he was dropped.[/p][/quote]Been looking into this and haven't found anything about him joining Wycombe. I checked Fulham's site, Wycombe's site and the sky.com site too. Something definitely going on. As for the clause, it is the first time I have ever heard of a clause being added on a loanee that states a club is obliged to offer a contract after playing so many games. What about everyone else, have they heard of this clause before? Personally, I am pleased he has been sent back. He (and McCall) claim right-back is his preferred/natural position. However, he has been woeful in that position and clearly looks better in the centre. Hopefully, Fulham's coaching staff can persuade him his career in football is as a centre-back. Finally, I don't think we should be looking at the conference, unless there are players that won't command a fee and they are few and far between. Players such as Theo Robinson, who have performed in this league already, are a better option. If we have a little money spare, what about making an offer for Strevens or Benson from D&R or perhaps Hatch or Clarke currently both on loan at Darlo. [/p][/quote]The thing is Waynus, we would would love to be able to splash some cash on the players you mentioned but it's wether or not we could afford them, even if Benson has a £75000 buy out clause could we afford the fee and then his wages? As for looking at the conference, why not? Birmingham have millions to spend but chose to buy the Shroot kid (and Birmingham werent the only ones interested in him)for a nominal fee, if championship clubs are looking in that league we shouldnt think we're above it. Lets not look at some more players from Div 1 that are 30+ and are who coming to the end of their careers and fancy an easy time at VP like some of the players sigined in the summer. I hope we can look to build a side that could take us forward for next few seasons, like Hull did when they were in this div. Was also confirmed on Sky last night that TJ has gone to Wycombe and is in the squad for Sat, strange that when you consider that SM said that he had tedonitus and wouldnt have been available if we'd kept him???[/p][/quote]I agree dont know where some people think the money is coming from. How many players have we paid for exactly in the last 7 years? Topp, who else? We wouldn't even payfor that Halifax player (whose name, i forget) so cant see us buying/been able to afford fee's of higher league clubs. Scouting for young 'uns is the way to go or pay for loans to see if they can do a job. Whether Stu would change is strategy of more experinced players is another question, and thus would negate the bringing in of untried youth.[/p][/quote]calm down boys getting on it was me not waynus who said strevens not benson who has a £75000 clause in his contract and my point was stu had said he might spend some money and all i was doing was putting names forward who could do a job for us ricky
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1:24pm Fri 2 Jan 09

Waynus says...

ricky wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote:
Waynus wrote:
Utters wrote: Just read on sky that he's signed for Wycombe. Fast work to say we only sent him back to Fulham this morning. A cynic might think something a bit fishy has been going on!? Good luck to the lad but we've been much better since he was dropped.
Been looking into this and haven't found anything about him joining Wycombe. I checked Fulham's site, Wycombe's site and the sky.com site too. Something definitely going on. As for the clause, it is the first time I have ever heard of a clause being added on a loanee that states a club is obliged to offer a contract after playing so many games. What about everyone else, have they heard of this clause before? Personally, I am pleased he has been sent back. He (and McCall) claim right-back is his preferred/natural position. However, he has been woeful in that position and clearly looks better in the centre. Hopefully, Fulham's coaching staff can persuade him his career in football is as a centre-back. Finally, I don't think we should be looking at the conference, unless there are players that won't command a fee and they are few and far between. Players such as Theo Robinson, who have performed in this league already, are a better option. If we have a little money spare, what about making an offer for Strevens or Benson from D&R or perhaps Hatch or Clarke currently both on loan at Darlo.
The thing is Waynus, we would would love to be able to splash some cash on the players you mentioned but it's wether or not we could afford them, even if Benson has a £75000 buy out clause could we afford the fee and then his wages? As for looking at the conference, why not? Birmingham have millions to spend but chose to buy the Shroot kid (and Birmingham werent the only ones interested in him)for a nominal fee, if championship clubs are looking in that league we shouldnt think we're above it. Lets not look at some more players from Div 1 that are 30+ and are who coming to the end of their careers and fancy an easy time at VP like some of the players sigined in the summer. I hope we can look to build a side that could take us forward for next few seasons, like Hull did when they were in this div. Was also confirmed on Sky last night that TJ has gone to Wycombe and is in the squad for Sat, strange that when you consider that SM said that he had tedonitus and wouldnt have been available if we'd kept him???
I agree dont know where some people think the money is coming from. How many players have we paid for exactly in the last 7 years? Topp, who else? We wouldn't even payfor that Halifax player (whose name, i forget) so cant see us buying/been able to afford fee's of higher league clubs. Scouting for young 'uns is the way to go or pay for loans to see if they can do a job. Whether Stu would change is strategy of more experinced players is another question, and thus would negate the bringing in of untried youth.
calm down boys getting on it was me not waynus who said strevens not benson who has a £75000 clause in his contract and my point was stu had said he might spend some money and all i was doing was putting names forward who could do a job for us
Agreed. McCall was quoted at the weekend as saying we had offers in for three strikers and was hopeful of signing two in the transfer window.

No, we haven't got boat loads of cash, but I would rather spend £75k on a proven player than a 'nominal fee' which incidentally could be significantly more than £75k on a potential signing.

We were looking at that Halifax Town kid, but baulked at the asking price. Have Rochdale got value for money from him? The answer is no, he never gets a game.

All I am saying is that Non-league players cost as much as League 2 players these days and in some cases, more than League 1 players. There have been a few non-league players' names cast about over the last few months on here, but all of them have demanded a decent fee.

Lets not forget that Danny Forest looked impressive last season for Town, but we all know how good he really was.
[quote][p][bold]ricky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Utters[/bold] wrote: Just read on sky that he's signed for Wycombe. Fast work to say we only sent him back to Fulham this morning. A cynic might think something a bit fishy has been going on!? Good luck to the lad but we've been much better since he was dropped.[/p][/quote]Been looking into this and haven't found anything about him joining Wycombe. I checked Fulham's site, Wycombe's site and the sky.com site too. Something definitely going on. As for the clause, it is the first time I have ever heard of a clause being added on a loanee that states a club is obliged to offer a contract after playing so many games. What about everyone else, have they heard of this clause before? Personally, I am pleased he has been sent back. He (and McCall) claim right-back is his preferred/natural position. However, he has been woeful in that position and clearly looks better in the centre. Hopefully, Fulham's coaching staff can persuade him his career in football is as a centre-back. Finally, I don't think we should be looking at the conference, unless there are players that won't command a fee and they are few and far between. Players such as Theo Robinson, who have performed in this league already, are a better option. If we have a little money spare, what about making an offer for Strevens or Benson from D&R or perhaps Hatch or Clarke currently both on loan at Darlo. [/p][/quote]The thing is Waynus, we would would love to be able to splash some cash on the players you mentioned but it's wether or not we could afford them, even if Benson has a £75000 buy out clause could we afford the fee and then his wages? As for looking at the conference, why not? Birmingham have millions to spend but chose to buy the Shroot kid (and Birmingham werent the only ones interested in him)for a nominal fee, if championship clubs are looking in that league we shouldnt think we're above it. Lets not look at some more players from Div 1 that are 30+ and are who coming to the end of their careers and fancy an easy time at VP like some of the players sigined in the summer. I hope we can look to build a side that could take us forward for next few seasons, like Hull did when they were in this div. Was also confirmed on Sky last night that TJ has gone to Wycombe and is in the squad for Sat, strange that when you consider that SM said that he had tedonitus and wouldnt have been available if we'd kept him???[/p][/quote]I agree dont know where some people think the money is coming from. How many players have we paid for exactly in the last 7 years? Topp, who else? We wouldn't even payfor that Halifax player (whose name, i forget) so cant see us buying/been able to afford fee's of higher league clubs. Scouting for young 'uns is the way to go or pay for loans to see if they can do a job. Whether Stu would change is strategy of more experinced players is another question, and thus would negate the bringing in of untried youth.[/p][/quote]calm down boys getting on it was me not waynus who said strevens not benson who has a £75000 clause in his contract and my point was stu had said he might spend some money and all i was doing was putting names forward who could do a job for us [/p][/quote]Agreed. McCall was quoted at the weekend as saying we had offers in for three strikers and was hopeful of signing two in the transfer window. No, we haven't got boat loads of cash, but I would rather spend £75k on a proven player than a 'nominal fee' which incidentally could be significantly more than £75k on a potential signing. We were looking at that Halifax Town kid, but baulked at the asking price. Have Rochdale got value for money from him? The answer is no, he never gets a game. All I am saying is that Non-league players cost as much as League 2 players these days and in some cases, more than League 1 players. There have been a few non-league players' names cast about over the last few months on here, but all of them have demanded a decent fee. Lets not forget that Danny Forest looked impressive last season for Town, but we all know how good he really was. Waynus
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3:23pm Fri 2 Jan 09

Halifax Bantam says...

wasnt having a go at anyone mate, was just sayin i dont think theres much money in the pot, and yes 60k was too much to pay for the Town boy and no he hasnt been worth it. I'm on about looking at players who cost a nominal amount like the lad Birmingham signed, think it may cost them a pre season game but could be well worth it in the end.
wasnt having a go at anyone mate, was just sayin i dont think theres much money in the pot, and yes 60k was too much to pay for the Town boy and no he hasnt been worth it. I'm on about looking at players who cost a nominal amount like the lad Birmingham signed, think it may cost them a pre season game but could be well worth it in the end. Halifax Bantam
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3:51pm Fri 2 Jan 09

Peter300 says...

s.b.c wrote:
What a wonderfull start to the new year. Will never make a foorballer in at thousand years. Classy name though
According to the BBC website TJ has just signed for Wycombe on a free. Obviously people in the game have ignored your knowlegable insight. I mean, Wycombe currently top and Peter Taylor manager who has an excellent record in the lower divisions. Did well with the England U-21's too.

TJ did a good job for City during his time here. Good luck to him.
[quote][p][bold]s.b.c[/bold] wrote: What a wonderfull start to the new year. Will never make a foorballer in at thousand years. Classy name though[/p][/quote]According to the BBC website TJ has just signed for Wycombe on a free. Obviously people in the game have ignored your knowlegable insight. I mean, Wycombe currently top and Peter Taylor manager who has an excellent record in the lower divisions. Did well with the England U-21's too. TJ did a good job for City during his time here. Good luck to him. Peter300
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4:09pm Fri 2 Jan 09

Halifax Bantam says...

Peter300 wrote:
s.b.c wrote: What a wonderfull start to the new year. Will never make a foorballer in at thousand years. Classy name though
According to the BBC website TJ has just signed for Wycombe on a free. Obviously people in the game have ignored your knowlegable insight. I mean, Wycombe currently top and Peter Taylor manager who has an excellent record in the lower divisions. Did well with the England U-21's too. TJ did a good job for City during his time here. Good luck to him.
Well said Peter300, Taylor is no mug and must see something in TJ, maybe as a winger Though, the lad has pace and can pass/cross a ball.
[quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s.b.c[/bold] wrote: What a wonderfull start to the new year. Will never make a foorballer in at thousand years. Classy name though[/p][/quote]According to the BBC website TJ has just signed for Wycombe on a free. Obviously people in the game have ignored your knowlegable insight. I mean, Wycombe currently top and Peter Taylor manager who has an excellent record in the lower divisions. Did well with the England U-21's too. TJ did a good job for City during his time here. Good luck to him.[/p][/quote]Well said Peter300, Taylor is no mug and must see something in TJ, maybe as a winger Though, the lad has pace and can pass/cross a ball. Halifax Bantam
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4:18pm Fri 2 Jan 09

Waynus says...

Good luck to TJ and I really hope Peter Taylor can persuade him to play at centre-back as that is definitely his best position.

Having said that, if Taylor has signed him to play at right-back, we might just start clawing back some of those points we are behind Wycombe.
Good luck to TJ and I really hope Peter Taylor can persuade him to play at centre-back as that is definitely his best position. Having said that, if Taylor has signed him to play at right-back, we might just start clawing back some of those points we are behind Wycombe. Waynus
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4:33pm Fri 2 Jan 09

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Made me chuckle that one waynus.

Good luck to the lad, he had some good games and some very indifferent ones for us, but I don't doubt he did his best and nobody can knock that. Even if the best fell short of what was required.
Made me chuckle that one waynus. Good luck to the lad, he had some good games and some very indifferent ones for us, but I don't doubt he did his best and nobody can knock that. Even if the best fell short of what was required. Prisoner Cell Block A
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