Don't panic! Mark Lawn allays Bradford City fans' fears after exits of key players

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Bantams joint-chairman Mark Lawn Bantams joint-chairman Mark Lawn

MARK Lawn has reassured supporters that City will be a force to be reckoned with next season despite a flurry of departures since the end of last term.

Men who played a crucial role in the Bantams’ historic 2012-13 campaign, such as skipper Gary Jones, Kyel Reid, Nathan Doyle and Garry Thompson, have all left Valley Parade, while James Meredith’s time at the club is almost certainly over following the arrival of Alan Sheehan.

Matthew Bates and Carl McHugh have also departed and question marks surround the future of goalkeeper Jon McLaughlin and midfielder Raffaele De Vita.

Yet boss Phil Parkinson has offset those departures with the acquisition of Matty Dolan, Billy Knott, Garry Liddle and Alan Sheehan.

And Lawn insists there are plenty more to come before City’s League One campaign kicks off at home to Coventry on August 9.

The joint-chairman said: “We’ve got a competitive budget so we’ll have a competitive squad – it’s as simple as that.

“I don’t understand why everyone is panicking over something which will be sorted out before the season gets underway.

“Obviously we are going to bring more players in because we’ve not got enough at present.

“We have a competitive budget this year which is higher than at least ten other clubs in League One this coming season.

“Last year’s budget was exceptional because we factored in Nahki Wells’ situation.

“It doesn’t mean that this year we won’t have a competitive budget because we will.

“People need to calm down a bit and not panic because there is still a long way to go before the season starts.

“I think we’re bringing in and improving the squad with the players we have signed.

“I think Phil has made some good decisions to bring in Liddle, Knott and Sheehan and re-signing Rory McArdle.

“We know we are light on certain numbers but we’re going to address that and try and improve on what we had last year.”

Reid, meanwhile, will join City’s League One rivals Preston on a two-year deal from July 1.

The winger missed the second half of last season with a knee injury but convinced North End he has fully recovered.

Lawn said: “Who knows what will happen to Kyel Reid? Look at what happened with Michael Owen when he got a bad knee injury.

“It’s a massive, massive risk and you just don’t know what they are going to come back like.

“Phil wanted to see how Kyel fared in pre-season before offering him a deal and if Preston don’t want to do to that then it’s up to them.”

Lawn, meanwhile, believes the arrival of left back Sheehan has given the Bantams the best rearguard in the division.

He said: “Alan Sheehan was the captain last season at Notts County and I think in Stephen Darby, Andrew Davies, Rory McArdle and Sheehan we have got the best back four in the division next year.

“I think we’ve also improved on the midfield by bringing in Billy Knott, Gary Liddle and Matty Dolan.

“Now we need to improve in other areas of the pitch and that’s what we’re trying to do. But we will take our time and get the right people.

“Jon McLaughlin has been offered a deal and will either take it or he won’t take it.

“As for James Meredith, we made him an improved offer and he never got back to us, so I think Phil quite rightly looked elsewhere.”

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8:13am Thu 26 Jun 14

Size3_ says...

Come on Mr Lawn.....this is Bradford we are talking about - panicking is what we do. The fact you have even opened your mouth is enough to set half the people on here off
Come on Mr Lawn.....this is Bradford we are talking about - panicking is what we do. The fact you have even opened your mouth is enough to set half the people on here off Size3_
  • Score: 35

8:17am Thu 26 Jun 14

whisky1 says...

Size3_ wrote:
Come on Mr Lawn.....this is Bradford we are talking about - panicking is what we do. The fact you have even opened your mouth is enough to set half the people on here off
Yup its the same every close season..some get in to a gurly panic and think sorting out an acquisition is like signing someone on FIFA. Business thus far looks pretty sound. Fabian Brandy anybody?!
[quote][p][bold]Size3_[/bold] wrote: Come on Mr Lawn.....this is Bradford we are talking about - panicking is what we do. The fact you have even opened your mouth is enough to set half the people on here off[/p][/quote]Yup its the same every close season..some get in to a gurly panic and think sorting out an acquisition is like signing someone on FIFA. Business thus far looks pretty sound. Fabian Brandy anybody?! whisky1
  • Score: 6

8:30am Thu 26 Jun 14

albioff says...

whisky1 wrote:
Size3_ wrote:
Come on Mr Lawn.....this is Bradford we are talking about - panicking is what we do. The fact you have even opened your mouth is enough to set half the people on here off
Yup its the same every close season..some get in to a gurly panic and think sorting out an acquisition is like signing someone on FIFA. Business thus far looks pretty sound. Fabian Brandy anybody?!
prefer martell myself, but hey what the heck, hic.
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Size3_[/bold] wrote: Come on Mr Lawn.....this is Bradford we are talking about - panicking is what we do. The fact you have even opened your mouth is enough to set half the people on here off[/p][/quote]Yup its the same every close season..some get in to a gurly panic and think sorting out an acquisition is like signing someone on FIFA. Business thus far looks pretty sound. Fabian Brandy anybody?![/p][/quote]prefer martell myself, but hey what the heck, hic. albioff
  • Score: 11

8:40am Thu 26 Jun 14

Hoggy64 says...

Whose panicking, apart from the odd usual suspect on this board I've not heard anyone else. But now you've mentioned Mr Lawn. .........
Whose panicking, apart from the odd usual suspect on this board I've not heard anyone else. But now you've mentioned Mr Lawn. ......... Hoggy64
  • Score: -6

8:55am Thu 26 Jun 14

Plastic Bantam says...

Hoggy64 wrote:
Whose panicking, apart from the odd usual suspect on this board I've not heard anyone else. But now you've mentioned Mr Lawn. .........
You've clearly not been on the Claret & Banter forum. You'd think we had only one player on the books the way people are talking on there and here!
[quote][p][bold]Hoggy64[/bold] wrote: Whose panicking, apart from the odd usual suspect on this board I've not heard anyone else. But now you've mentioned Mr Lawn. .........[/p][/quote]You've clearly not been on the Claret & Banter forum. You'd think we had only one player on the books the way people are talking on there and here! Plastic Bantam
  • Score: 9

9:05am Thu 26 Jun 14

Cityman23 says...

There may well be a lot of new replacements set to arrive, and, considering the number who've gone, that's at least a comfort to know, but deploying too many new players straight into the first team is a huge gamble.
There may well be a lot of new replacements set to arrive, and, considering the number who've gone, that's at least a comfort to know, but deploying too many new players straight into the first team is a huge gamble. Cityman23
  • Score: -2

9:17am Thu 26 Jun 14

Cityman23 says...

My main 'concern'-as opposed to panic-is we're starting next season with a completely new midfield. All two/three/four players there will be new.

Individually, they may be good players but the unknown 'quantity' is how they work/gel as a unit.

Let's hope it all goes to plan!
My main 'concern'-as opposed to panic-is we're starting next season with a completely new midfield. All two/three/four players there will be new. Individually, they may be good players but the unknown 'quantity' is how they work/gel as a unit. Let's hope it all goes to plan! Cityman23
  • Score: 5

9:49am Thu 26 Jun 14

dannbradfc says...

Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......
Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net...... dannbradfc
  • Score: -1

10:36am Thu 26 Jun 14

thelastmanstanding says...

They've sold the best players we had, replaced them with players from a team that only just avoided relegation and are now telling us not to panic.

From what I've seen so far, I'm expecting us to go down at the end of this coming season.
They've sold the best players we had, replaced them with players from a team that only just avoided relegation and are now telling us not to panic. From what I've seen so far, I'm expecting us to go down at the end of this coming season. thelastmanstanding
  • Score: -54

10:46am Thu 26 Jun 14

Farsley Bantam says...

thelastmanstanding wrote:
They've sold the best players we had, replaced them with players from a team that only just avoided relegation and are now telling us not to panic. From what I've seen so far, I'm expecting us to go down at the end of this coming season.
'They've sold the best players we had'

They've sold Davies and Darby? Must have missed that.

'replaced them with players from a team that only just avoided relegation'

This is no indication of the ability of the players we have signed. You get good players in crap teams and vice versa.

'From what I've seen so far'

What you have 'seen' so far is no matches at all (not even friendlies!) and many more players are still to arrive.

'I'm expecting us to go down at the end of this coming season'

On what basis? And I suspect you are hoping more than expecting.
[quote][p][bold]thelastmanstanding[/bold] wrote: They've sold the best players we had, replaced them with players from a team that only just avoided relegation and are now telling us not to panic. From what I've seen so far, I'm expecting us to go down at the end of this coming season.[/p][/quote]'They've sold the best players we had' They've sold Davies and Darby? Must have missed that. 'replaced them with players from a team that only just avoided relegation' This is no indication of the ability of the players we have signed. You get good players in crap teams and vice versa. 'From what I've seen so far' What you have 'seen' so far is no matches at all (not even friendlies!) and many more players are still to arrive. 'I'm expecting us to go down at the end of this coming season' On what basis? And I suspect you are hoping more than expecting. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 46

11:12am Thu 26 Jun 14

bcfc mad85 says...

Not panicking one bit we may have signed players from a team that only just missed the drop what your forgetting is the other clubs that went in for them if they are that bad why Is it other clubs in our league and championship be after them pp will use is budget wisely and bring in the best possible replacements only one thing is with pre season starting in a week I thought we would have brought a few more but these things take time
Not panicking one bit we may have signed players from a team that only just missed the drop what your forgetting is the other clubs that went in for them if they are that bad why Is it other clubs in our league and championship be after them pp will use is budget wisely and bring in the best possible replacements only one thing is with pre season starting in a week I thought we would have brought a few more but these things take time bcfc mad85
  • Score: 16

11:37am Thu 26 Jun 14

dannbradfc says...

dannbradfc wrote:
Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......
this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........;
)
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......[/p][/quote]this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; ) dannbradfc
  • Score: -16

11:47am Thu 26 Jun 14

tyker7745 says...

Sounds like a line from Dad's Army: "Don't panic Mr Manwaring "
Sounds like a line from Dad's Army: "Don't panic Mr Manwaring " tyker7745
  • Score: -3

11:50am Thu 26 Jun 14

Farsley Bantam says...

dannbradfc wrote:
dannbradfc wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......
this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; )
Ignore them . The 'scores' are totally meaningless and give no indication as to the quality of the comment.
If it's any consolation your comment was the best thing I have read in years. Have a plus 1!
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......[/p][/quote]this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; )[/p][/quote]Ignore them . The 'scores' are totally meaningless and give no indication as to the quality of the comment. If it's any consolation your comment was the best thing I have read in years. Have a plus 1! Farsley Bantam
  • Score: -19

12:02pm Thu 26 Jun 14

rinkydink says...

Not sure why people are saying we shouldnt be signing players Like Sheehan, just because he was at County, as a team they under performed but does that mean he isnt better than where they finished?

These are EXACTLY the types of players we should be signing. the best players in teams. That makes them weaker and us stronger.
Not sure why people are saying we shouldnt be signing players Like Sheehan, just because he was at County, as a team they under performed but does that mean he isnt better than where they finished? These are EXACTLY the types of players we should be signing. the best players in teams. That makes them weaker and us stronger. rinkydink
  • Score: 17

12:12pm Thu 26 Jun 14

whisky1 says...

dannbradfc wrote:
dannbradfc wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......
this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; )
It is the uncertainty and drama in sport which makes it interesting surely Fans are better enjoying the journey whatever problems arise and try to be positive that's what moves the whole kaboosh forward. I feel proud that we have a club which is run by folk who are not motivated by vanity or cash. That is becoming more and more rare. On the playing side you cant get more honest and genuine than PP. The Club is well run by decent folk they can be trusted to get on with it.
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......[/p][/quote]this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; )[/p][/quote]It is the uncertainty and drama in sport which makes it interesting surely Fans are better enjoying the journey whatever problems arise and try to be positive that's what moves the whole kaboosh forward. I feel proud that we have a club which is run by folk who are not motivated by vanity or cash. That is becoming more and more rare. On the playing side you cant get more honest and genuine than PP. The Club is well run by decent folk they can be trusted to get on with it. whisky1
  • Score: 14

12:31pm Thu 26 Jun 14

macca1969 says...

You heard it straight from the horses mouth. Our budget us a mid table budget. At least 10 teams have less than us so by my reckoning that means atleast 12 have bigger budgets. So let's judge the team fairly if we are mid table be fair and be happy. Any higher would be a bonus
You heard it straight from the horses mouth. Our budget us a mid table budget. At least 10 teams have less than us so by my reckoning that means atleast 12 have bigger budgets. So let's judge the team fairly if we are mid table be fair and be happy. Any higher would be a bonus macca1969
  • Score: 12

1:25pm Thu 26 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

No panic from me Mark :-), It's obvious there are more signings to be made. I'm sure we'll be competitive next season if we add more quality and pace to what we already have.
No panic from me Mark :-), It's obvious there are more signings to be made. I'm sure we'll be competitive next season if we add more quality and pace to what we already have. bcfc1903
  • Score: 2

2:37pm Thu 26 Jun 14

mrmuzzy says...

No wonder our better players don't stay.
lack of ambition.
budget for a mid table finish.
lets see what the next few weeks brings in regards of fetching players in.
and as for chairman not motivated by money don't make us all laugh!!!
That's what it's all about.
and as for people
No wonder our better players don't stay. lack of ambition. budget for a mid table finish. lets see what the next few weeks brings in regards of fetching players in. and as for chairman not motivated by money don't make us all laugh!!! That's what it's all about. and as for people mrmuzzy
  • Score: -18

2:44pm Thu 26 Jun 14

whisky1 says...

mrmuzzy wrote:
No wonder our better players don't stay. lack of ambition. budget for a mid table finish. lets see what the next few weeks brings in regards of fetching players in. and as for chairman not motivated by money don't make us all laugh!!! That's what it's all about. and as for people
Can we have this in English next time
[quote][p][bold]mrmuzzy[/bold] wrote: No wonder our better players don't stay. lack of ambition. budget for a mid table finish. lets see what the next few weeks brings in regards of fetching players in. and as for chairman not motivated by money don't make us all laugh!!! That's what it's all about. and as for people[/p][/quote]Can we have this in English next time whisky1
  • Score: 2

4:51pm Thu 26 Jun 14

BCFC 95 says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
No panic from me Mark :-), It's obvious there are more signings to be made. I'm sure we'll be competitive next season if we add more quality and pace to what we already have.
OMG where going down and we haven't even kicked a ball yet, some fans need to get a grip pre season hasn't even begun yet and we are still in the close period so don't judge the team before you've seen the results. Byway the signings made have been descent and by the sounds of it more players are on the way so need to panic yet have some faith in the team CTID!!
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: No panic from me Mark :-), It's obvious there are more signings to be made. I'm sure we'll be competitive next season if we add more quality and pace to what we already have.[/p][/quote]OMG where going down and we haven't even kicked a ball yet, some fans need to get a grip pre season hasn't even begun yet and we are still in the close period so don't judge the team before you've seen the results. Byway the signings made have been descent and by the sounds of it more players are on the way so need to panic yet have some faith in the team CTID!! BCFC 95
  • Score: 5

5:00pm Thu 26 Jun 14

shaun from richmond says...

WHO'S PANICKING??....Its clear we will be sitting at the bottom end of the division come the end of the season. BUT.....If you get rid of your best players (Wells, Jones (Hearbeat of the team), Reid) and replace with "Bang Average" Div 1/2 players that's all you are going to get.
MIND YOU!!...A real test for "Parkys" coaching abilities, me thinks. SO ALL IN ALL.....NO PANIC....Just not expecting too much!.
A BIT LIKE ENGLAND AT THE WORLD CUP!
WHO'S PANICKING??....Its clear we will be sitting at the bottom end of the division come the end of the season. BUT.....If you get rid of your best players (Wells, Jones (Hearbeat of the team), Reid) and replace with "Bang Average" Div 1/2 players that's all you are going to get. MIND YOU!!...A real test for "Parkys" coaching abilities, me thinks. SO ALL IN ALL.....NO PANIC....Just not expecting too much!. A BIT LIKE ENGLAND AT THE WORLD CUP! shaun from richmond
  • Score: -9

5:38pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Nickloza says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
WHO'S PANICKING??....Its clear we will be sitting at the bottom end of the division come the end of the season. BUT.....If you get rid of your best players (Wells, Jones (Hearbeat of the team), Reid) and replace with "Bang AverageJust a fool, can't be bothered picking things out of your quote, It's all drivel! I suggest you let the next inmate have his turn at the computer now.
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: WHO'S PANICKING??....Its clear we will be sitting at the bottom end of the division come the end of the season. BUT.....If you get rid of your best players (Wells, Jones (Hearbeat of the team), Reid) and replace with "Bang AverageJust a fool, can't be bothered picking things out of your quote, It's all drivel! I suggest you let the next inmate have his turn at the computer now. Nickloza
  • Score: -1

5:40pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Nickloza says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
WHO'S PANICKING??....Its clear we will be sitting at the bottom end of the division come the end of the season. BUT.....If you get rid of your best players (Wells, Jones (Hearbeat of the team), Reid) and replace with "Bang Average" Div 1/2 players that's all you are going to get.
MIND YOU!!...A real test for "Parkys" coaching abilities, me thinks. SO ALL IN ALL.....NO PANIC....Just not expecting too much!.
A BIT LIKE ENGLAND AT THE WORLD CUP!
Just a fool, can't be bothered picking things out of your quote, It's all drivel! I suggest you let the next inmate have his turn at the computer now.
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: WHO'S PANICKING??....Its clear we will be sitting at the bottom end of the division come the end of the season. BUT.....If you get rid of your best players (Wells, Jones (Hearbeat of the team), Reid) and replace with "Bang Average" Div 1/2 players that's all you are going to get. MIND YOU!!...A real test for "Parkys" coaching abilities, me thinks. SO ALL IN ALL.....NO PANIC....Just not expecting too much!. A BIT LIKE ENGLAND AT THE WORLD CUP![/p][/quote]Just a fool, can't be bothered picking things out of your quote, It's all drivel! I suggest you let the next inmate have his turn at the computer now. Nickloza
  • Score: 3

5:43pm Thu 26 Jun 14

basil fawlty says...

Cityman23 wrote:
There may well be a lot of new replacements set to arrive, and, considering the number who've gone, that's at least a comfort to know, but deploying too many new players straight into the first team is a huge gamble.
Very true. All new signings are gambles but when there are so many at once it makes it even harder to guarantee that the right blend has been got. This is not the fault of anyone, its just the way it is now in the lower leagues where players are mostly on fairly short term contracts.
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: There may well be a lot of new replacements set to arrive, and, considering the number who've gone, that's at least a comfort to know, but deploying too many new players straight into the first team is a huge gamble.[/p][/quote]Very true. All new signings are gambles but when there are so many at once it makes it even harder to guarantee that the right blend has been got. This is not the fault of anyone, its just the way it is now in the lower leagues where players are mostly on fairly short term contracts. basil fawlty
  • Score: -1

6:15pm Thu 26 Jun 14

bantam34 says...

"We have a competitive budget this year which is higher than at least ten other clubs in League One this coming season". GREAT so 24 teams in lge one which means 13 will have a higer budget than us! You would assume Shef Utd, Barnsley, Posh, Donnie Rovers would be higer but that sounds very poor to me, too much penny pinching - understand the budget has been cut by 500k but it seems all the nahki wells money and cup run money has vanished into think air, it was only last year we were rumoured to have bid £120k (ish) for Benson - are we actually ever going to buy anyone or just rely of FREE transfers forever? we seriously need soemone to step in and take the club on to the next level.
"We have a competitive budget this year which is higher than at least ten other clubs in League One this coming season". GREAT so 24 teams in lge one which means 13 will have a higer budget than us! You would assume Shef Utd, Barnsley, Posh, Donnie Rovers would be higer but that sounds very poor to me, too much penny pinching - understand the budget has been cut by 500k but it seems all the nahki wells money and cup run money has vanished into think air, it was only last year we were rumoured to have bid £120k (ish) for Benson - are we actually ever going to buy anyone or just rely of FREE transfers forever? we seriously need soemone to step in and take the club on to the next level. bantam34
  • Score: -8

6:19pm Thu 26 Jun 14

tinytoonster says...

you have to panic if lawn speaks!
i like the comment about wells.
factored it into budget.
said they tried to get him tied down to a new deal before they got rid.
which is it?
thats why i do not trust lawn, forked tongue!
always the plan to sell, could not afford to keep him.
just say that though and stop treating fans like muppets!
you have to panic if lawn speaks! i like the comment about wells. factored it into budget. said they tried to get him tied down to a new deal before they got rid. which is it? thats why i do not trust lawn, forked tongue! always the plan to sell, could not afford to keep him. just say that though and stop treating fans like muppets! tinytoonster
  • Score: -7

6:49pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Nickloza says...

tinytoonster wrote:
you have to panic if lawn speaks!
i like the comment about wells.
factored it into budget.
said they tried to get him tied down to a new deal before they got rid.
which is it?
thats why i do not trust lawn, forked tongue!
always the plan to sell, could not afford to keep him.
just say that though and stop treating fans like muppets!
Why you are a muppet!
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: you have to panic if lawn speaks! i like the comment about wells. factored it into budget. said they tried to get him tied down to a new deal before they got rid. which is it? thats why i do not trust lawn, forked tongue! always the plan to sell, could not afford to keep him. just say that though and stop treating fans like muppets![/p][/quote]Why you are a muppet! Nickloza
  • Score: 10

8:41pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Baby Bantam says...

tinytoonster wrote:
you have to panic if lawn speaks!
i like the comment about wells.
factored it into budget.
said they tried to get him tied down to a new deal before they got rid.
which is it?
thats why i do not trust lawn, forked tongue!
always the plan to sell, could not afford to keep him.
just say that though and stop treating fans like muppets!
I really can't believe idiots like you. That man saved the club from extinction, cleared our debts, took us to a league club final, took us to Wembley twice and got us promoted and kept us in league One and idiots like you have the utter check to question his intents. I think he understand my clubs budget better than you. Stop slagging the man off and get behind him and support Bradford City..
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: you have to panic if lawn speaks! i like the comment about wells. factored it into budget. said they tried to get him tied down to a new deal before they got rid. which is it? thats why i do not trust lawn, forked tongue! always the plan to sell, could not afford to keep him. just say that though and stop treating fans like muppets![/p][/quote]I really can't believe idiots like you. That man saved the club from extinction, cleared our debts, took us to a league club final, took us to Wembley twice and got us promoted and kept us in league One and idiots like you have the utter check to question his intents. I think he understand my clubs budget better than you. Stop slagging the man off and get behind him and support Bradford City.. Baby Bantam
  • Score: 13

9:22pm Thu 26 Jun 14

dannbradfc says...

after reading the post again though its easy for Mr Lawn not to panic as he knows what we are going to do next (or at least should do). Whereas this is the first we've heard apart from the 500,000 cut, and witnessed alot of goings, potential goings and some coming in. rather than say it the way it is which could be read as a little patronising, it would have been better had he merely announced our intentions and reiterated that everything is going as it should......
after reading the post again though its easy for Mr Lawn not to panic as he knows what we are going to do next (or at least should do). Whereas this is the first we've heard apart from the 500,000 cut, and witnessed alot of goings, potential goings and some coming in. rather than say it the way it is which could be read as a little patronising, it would have been better had he merely announced our intentions and reiterated that everything is going as it should...... dannbradfc
  • Score: -4

11:37pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

The budget is irrelevant. Good management, team spirit, luck and graft are the determining factors in L1 and 2.

We had massive budgets in L2 and failed time and again.
The budget is irrelevant. Good management, team spirit, luck and graft are the determining factors in L1 and 2. We had massive budgets in L2 and failed time and again. Prisoner Cell Block A
  • Score: 8

7:44am Fri 27 Jun 14

Cityman23 says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
dannbradfc wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......
this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; )
Ignore them . The 'scores' are totally meaningless and give no indication as to the quality of the comment.
If it's any consolation your comment was the best thing I have read in years. Have a plus 1!
I feel when the 'T&A' brought in the feature allowing people to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down this has become counter-productive.

Some people on here get massive minus scores for making/arguing a legitimate point, which may well be controversial whilst another who barely writes a sentence gets a huge thumbs up vote.

Sometimes this 'vox-pop' rating is so poor that you wonder whether others are just 'ganging up' on the person for the sheer nasty pleasure of it!

I for one, would rather see a proper argued point that I disagree with than a five word sentence which is just put on to 'play to the gallery.'

I believe the 'T& A' should remove this thumbs up/ down device because its only effect seems to possibly inhibit debate-if it does anything. (But, I am sure ,'trolls' love it!)
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......[/p][/quote]this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; )[/p][/quote]Ignore them . The 'scores' are totally meaningless and give no indication as to the quality of the comment. If it's any consolation your comment was the best thing I have read in years. Have a plus 1![/p][/quote]I feel when the 'T&A' brought in the feature allowing people to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down this has become counter-productive. Some people on here get massive minus scores for making/arguing a legitimate point, which may well be controversial whilst another who barely writes a sentence gets a huge thumbs up vote. Sometimes this 'vox-pop' rating is so poor that you wonder whether others are just 'ganging up' on the person for the sheer nasty pleasure of it! I for one, would rather see a proper argued point that I disagree with than a five word sentence which is just put on to 'play to the gallery.' I believe the 'T& A' should remove this thumbs up/ down device because its only effect seems to possibly inhibit debate-if it does anything. (But, I am sure ,'trolls' love it!) Cityman23
  • Score: -6

7:58am Fri 27 Jun 14

tinytoonster says...

Baby Bantam wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
you have to panic if lawn speaks!
i like the comment about wells.
factored it into budget.
said they tried to get him tied down to a new deal before they got rid.
which is it?
thats why i do not trust lawn, forked tongue!
always the plan to sell, could not afford to keep him.
just say that though and stop treating fans like muppets!
I really can't believe idiots like you. That man saved the club from extinction, cleared our debts, took us to a league club final, took us to Wembley twice and got us promoted and kept us in league One and idiots like you have the utter check to question his intents. I think he understand my clubs budget better than you. Stop slagging the man off and get behind him and support Bradford City..
he LENT some money and got it back.
rhodes put his money in time after time with no strings.
you are getting the real saviour mixed up!
i buy a season ticket every year so i'm entitled to my opinion, same as you.
how that makes me an idiot baffles me to be honest?
[quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: you have to panic if lawn speaks! i like the comment about wells. factored it into budget. said they tried to get him tied down to a new deal before they got rid. which is it? thats why i do not trust lawn, forked tongue! always the plan to sell, could not afford to keep him. just say that though and stop treating fans like muppets![/p][/quote]I really can't believe idiots like you. That man saved the club from extinction, cleared our debts, took us to a league club final, took us to Wembley twice and got us promoted and kept us in league One and idiots like you have the utter check to question his intents. I think he understand my clubs budget better than you. Stop slagging the man off and get behind him and support Bradford City..[/p][/quote]he LENT some money and got it back. rhodes put his money in time after time with no strings. you are getting the real saviour mixed up! i buy a season ticket every year so i'm entitled to my opinion, same as you. how that makes me an idiot baffles me to be honest? tinytoonster
  • Score: -5

8:10am Fri 27 Jun 14

Michael Clayton says...

Cityman23 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
dannbradfc wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......
this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; )
Ignore them . The 'scores' are totally meaningless and give no indication as to the quality of the comment. If it's any consolation your comment was the best thing I have read in years. Have a plus 1!
I feel when the 'T&A' brought in the feature allowing people to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down this has become counter-productive. Some people on here get massive minus scores for making/arguing a legitimate point, which may well be controversial whilst another who barely writes a sentence gets a huge thumbs up vote. Sometimes this 'vox-pop' rating is so poor that you wonder whether others are just 'ganging up' on the person for the sheer nasty pleasure of it! I for one, would rather see a proper argued point that I disagree with than a five word sentence which is just put on to 'play to the gallery.' I believe the 'T& A' should remove this thumbs up/ down device because its only effect seems to possibly inhibit debate-if it does anything. (But, I am sure ,'trolls' love it!)
Those that are bothered the 'device' are obviously in need constant re-assurance.

It is more a reflection on their lack of confidence than anything else.
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......[/p][/quote]this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; )[/p][/quote]Ignore them . The 'scores' are totally meaningless and give no indication as to the quality of the comment. If it's any consolation your comment was the best thing I have read in years. Have a plus 1![/p][/quote]I feel when the 'T&A' brought in the feature allowing people to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down this has become counter-productive. Some people on here get massive minus scores for making/arguing a legitimate point, which may well be controversial whilst another who barely writes a sentence gets a huge thumbs up vote. Sometimes this 'vox-pop' rating is so poor that you wonder whether others are just 'ganging up' on the person for the sheer nasty pleasure of it! I for one, would rather see a proper argued point that I disagree with than a five word sentence which is just put on to 'play to the gallery.' I believe the 'T& A' should remove this thumbs up/ down device because its only effect seems to possibly inhibit debate-if it does anything. (But, I am sure ,'trolls' love it!)[/p][/quote]Those that are bothered the 'device' are obviously in need constant re-assurance. It is more a reflection on their lack of confidence than anything else. Michael Clayton
  • Score: -1

8:50am Fri 27 Jun 14

whisky1 says...

tinytoonster wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
tinytoonster wrote: you have to panic if lawn speaks! i like the comment about wells. factored it into budget. said they tried to get him tied down to a new deal before they got rid. which is it? thats why i do not trust lawn, forked tongue! always the plan to sell, could not afford to keep him. just say that though and stop treating fans like muppets!
I really can't believe idiots like you. That man saved the club from extinction, cleared our debts, took us to a league club final, took us to Wembley twice and got us promoted and kept us in league One and idiots like you have the utter check to question his intents. I think he understand my clubs budget better than you. Stop slagging the man off and get behind him and support Bradford City..
he LENT some money and got it back. rhodes put his money in time after time with no strings. you are getting the real saviour mixed up! i buy a season ticket every year so i'm entitled to my opinion, same as you. how that makes me an idiot baffles me to be honest?
Wrong JR has put in a shedload but he also took a big dividend when we got to the Prem which was fair enough. When you have a million to stick in a basket case business with no security you can start calling. No one else was going to do it. You would not have a team to support without BOTH of them.
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: you have to panic if lawn speaks! i like the comment about wells. factored it into budget. said they tried to get him tied down to a new deal before they got rid. which is it? thats why i do not trust lawn, forked tongue! always the plan to sell, could not afford to keep him. just say that though and stop treating fans like muppets![/p][/quote]I really can't believe idiots like you. That man saved the club from extinction, cleared our debts, took us to a league club final, took us to Wembley twice and got us promoted and kept us in league One and idiots like you have the utter check to question his intents. I think he understand my clubs budget better than you. Stop slagging the man off and get behind him and support Bradford City..[/p][/quote]he LENT some money and got it back. rhodes put his money in time after time with no strings. you are getting the real saviour mixed up! i buy a season ticket every year so i'm entitled to my opinion, same as you. how that makes me an idiot baffles me to be honest?[/p][/quote]Wrong JR has put in a shedload but he also took a big dividend when we got to the Prem which was fair enough. When you have a million to stick in a basket case business with no security you can start calling. No one else was going to do it. You would not have a team to support without BOTH of them. whisky1
  • Score: 3

8:52am Fri 27 Jun 14

dannbradfc says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
dannbradfc wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......
this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; )
Ignore them . The 'scores' are totally meaningless and give no indication as to the quality of the comment. If it's any consolation your comment was the best thing I have read in years. Have a plus 1!
I feel when the 'T&A' brought in the feature allowing people to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down this has become counter-productive. Some people on here get massive minus scores for making/arguing a legitimate point, which may well be controversial whilst another who barely writes a sentence gets a huge thumbs up vote. Sometimes this 'vox-pop' rating is so poor that you wonder whether others are just 'ganging up' on the person for the sheer nasty pleasure of it! I for one, would rather see a proper argued point that I disagree with than a five word sentence which is just put on to 'play to the gallery.' I believe the 'T& A' should remove this thumbs up/ down device because its only effect seems to possibly inhibit debate-if it does anything. (But, I am sure ,'trolls' love it!)
Those that are bothered the 'device' are obviously in need constant re-assurance.

It is more a reflection on their lack of confidence than anything else.
Not really Michael. I find it funny. I only raised it as its just indicative of some of the lunacy and cowardice (to a degree e.g some posts get minus 40 yet only 2 or 3 responses. thus suhggesting that they don't have the capacity). Like i say its funny really. anyone craving plus scores is not really a sign of lack of confidence probably more anoyance i'd argue......
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......[/p][/quote]this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; )[/p][/quote]Ignore them . The 'scores' are totally meaningless and give no indication as to the quality of the comment. If it's any consolation your comment was the best thing I have read in years. Have a plus 1![/p][/quote]I feel when the 'T&A' brought in the feature allowing people to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down this has become counter-productive. Some people on here get massive minus scores for making/arguing a legitimate point, which may well be controversial whilst another who barely writes a sentence gets a huge thumbs up vote. Sometimes this 'vox-pop' rating is so poor that you wonder whether others are just 'ganging up' on the person for the sheer nasty pleasure of it! I for one, would rather see a proper argued point that I disagree with than a five word sentence which is just put on to 'play to the gallery.' I believe the 'T& A' should remove this thumbs up/ down device because its only effect seems to possibly inhibit debate-if it does anything. (But, I am sure ,'trolls' love it!)[/p][/quote]Those that are bothered the 'device' are obviously in need constant re-assurance. It is more a reflection on their lack of confidence than anything else.[/p][/quote]Not really Michael. I find it funny. I only raised it as its just indicative of some of the lunacy and cowardice (to a degree e.g some posts get minus 40 yet only 2 or 3 responses. thus suhggesting that they don't have the capacity). Like i say its funny really. anyone craving plus scores is not really a sign of lack of confidence probably more anoyance i'd argue...... dannbradfc
  • Score: -5

9:10am Fri 27 Jun 14

Cityman23 says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
dannbradfc wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......
this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; )
Ignore them . The 'scores' are totally meaningless and give no indication as to the quality of the comment. If it's any consolation your comment was the best thing I have read in years. Have a plus 1!
I feel when the 'T&A' brought in the feature allowing people to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down this has become counter-productive. Some people on here get massive minus scores for making/arguing a legitimate point, which may well be controversial whilst another who barely writes a sentence gets a huge thumbs up vote. Sometimes this 'vox-pop' rating is so poor that you wonder whether others are just 'ganging up' on the person for the sheer nasty pleasure of it! I for one, would rather see a proper argued point that I disagree with than a five word sentence which is just put on to 'play to the gallery.' I believe the 'T& A' should remove this thumbs up/ down device because its only effect seems to possibly inhibit debate-if it does anything. (But, I am sure ,'trolls' love it!)
Those that are bothered the 'device' are obviously in need constant re-assurance.

It is more a reflection on their lack of confidence than anything else.
My point was not about people getting upset about getting lots of thumbs downs. It's about the negative effect this feature has on debate.
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......[/p][/quote]this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; )[/p][/quote]Ignore them . The 'scores' are totally meaningless and give no indication as to the quality of the comment. If it's any consolation your comment was the best thing I have read in years. Have a plus 1![/p][/quote]I feel when the 'T&A' brought in the feature allowing people to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down this has become counter-productive. Some people on here get massive minus scores for making/arguing a legitimate point, which may well be controversial whilst another who barely writes a sentence gets a huge thumbs up vote. Sometimes this 'vox-pop' rating is so poor that you wonder whether others are just 'ganging up' on the person for the sheer nasty pleasure of it! I for one, would rather see a proper argued point that I disagree with than a five word sentence which is just put on to 'play to the gallery.' I believe the 'T& A' should remove this thumbs up/ down device because its only effect seems to possibly inhibit debate-if it does anything. (But, I am sure ,'trolls' love it!)[/p][/quote]Those that are bothered the 'device' are obviously in need constant re-assurance. It is more a reflection on their lack of confidence than anything else.[/p][/quote]My point was not about people getting upset about getting lots of thumbs downs. It's about the negative effect this feature has on debate. Cityman23
  • Score: 0

12:10pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Michael Clayton says...

Cityman23 wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
dannbradfc wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......
this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; )
Ignore them . The 'scores' are totally meaningless and give no indication as to the quality of the comment. If it's any consolation your comment was the best thing I have read in years. Have a plus 1!
I feel when the 'T&A' brought in the feature allowing people to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down this has become counter-productive. Some people on here get massive minus scores for making/arguing a legitimate point, which may well be controversial whilst another who barely writes a sentence gets a huge thumbs up vote. Sometimes this 'vox-pop' rating is so poor that you wonder whether others are just 'ganging up' on the person for the sheer nasty pleasure of it! I for one, would rather see a proper argued point that I disagree with than a five word sentence which is just put on to 'play to the gallery.' I believe the 'T& A' should remove this thumbs up/ down device because its only effect seems to possibly inhibit debate-if it does anything. (But, I am sure ,'trolls' love it!)
Those that are bothered the 'device' are obviously in need constant re-assurance. It is more a reflection on their lack of confidence than anything else.
My point was not about people getting upset about getting lots of thumbs downs. It's about the negative effect this feature has on debate.
It is only negative if you attach any significance to it.

You have already realised it is a poor 'device'. Others that are capable of stringing a few words and sentences together will also realise this.

Bear in mind that you are dealing with an all-consuming society in which people like to press buttons. Having seen some of their written efforts, it is probably a less embarrassing option.
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......[/p][/quote]this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; )[/p][/quote]Ignore them . The 'scores' are totally meaningless and give no indication as to the quality of the comment. If it's any consolation your comment was the best thing I have read in years. Have a plus 1![/p][/quote]I feel when the 'T&A' brought in the feature allowing people to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down this has become counter-productive. Some people on here get massive minus scores for making/arguing a legitimate point, which may well be controversial whilst another who barely writes a sentence gets a huge thumbs up vote. Sometimes this 'vox-pop' rating is so poor that you wonder whether others are just 'ganging up' on the person for the sheer nasty pleasure of it! I for one, would rather see a proper argued point that I disagree with than a five word sentence which is just put on to 'play to the gallery.' I believe the 'T& A' should remove this thumbs up/ down device because its only effect seems to possibly inhibit debate-if it does anything. (But, I am sure ,'trolls' love it!)[/p][/quote]Those that are bothered the 'device' are obviously in need constant re-assurance. It is more a reflection on their lack of confidence than anything else.[/p][/quote]My point was not about people getting upset about getting lots of thumbs downs. It's about the negative effect this feature has on debate.[/p][/quote]It is only negative if you attach any significance to it. You have already realised it is a poor 'device'. Others that are capable of stringing a few words and sentences together will also realise this. Bear in mind that you are dealing with an all-consuming society in which people like to press buttons. Having seen some of their written efforts, it is probably a less embarrassing option. Michael Clayton
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12:19pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Michael Clayton says...

dannbradfc wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
dannbradfc wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......
this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; )
Ignore them . The 'scores' are totally meaningless and give no indication as to the quality of the comment. If it's any consolation your comment was the best thing I have read in years. Have a plus 1!
I feel when the 'T&A' brought in the feature allowing people to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down this has become counter-productive. Some people on here get massive minus scores for making/arguing a legitimate point, which may well be controversial whilst another who barely writes a sentence gets a huge thumbs up vote. Sometimes this 'vox-pop' rating is so poor that you wonder whether others are just 'ganging up' on the person for the sheer nasty pleasure of it! I for one, would rather see a proper argued point that I disagree with than a five word sentence which is just put on to 'play to the gallery.' I believe the 'T& A' should remove this thumbs up/ down device because its only effect seems to possibly inhibit debate-if it does anything. (But, I am sure ,'trolls' love it!)
Those that are bothered the 'device' are obviously in need constant re-assurance. It is more a reflection on their lack of confidence than anything else.
Not really Michael. I find it funny. I only raised it as its just indicative of some of the lunacy and cowardice (to a degree e.g some posts get minus 40 yet only 2 or 3 responses. thus suhggesting that they don't have the capacity). Like i say its funny really. anyone craving plus scores is not really a sign of lack of confidence probably more anoyance i'd argue......
I was responding to Cityman23 but, in any case, my view is pretty much fixed.

I can't deny that I spot ludicruous minus scores but I also know that it is the work of a sad jerk who has gone to the trouble of creating multiple addresses. Worst still, the details will be contained on some sort of a list.
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: Stated only yesterday how there was a long way to go but the fact is we are currently light which Lawn himself admits. Any side under-going wholesale changes carry the unknown and whilst exciting its also a source of anxiety at the same time. thus you can't blame any fans for been concerned. My biggest concern is lack of pace and mobility. Not sure how fast Knott is but this area needs addressing in the midfield/wide areas which we have been given assurances that it will be. so both interesting and finger crossing that we get the right balance, they gel quickly and we can put the ball in the net......[/p][/quote]this post scores minus 5 Why???? its just summing up how some fans are feeling. There is nothing in the post that is factually wrong thus i can only presume that it is the 'pandoras everything is always okay, even 6 years in division 4, fence sitting waiters until things improve told you so's'......;) also known as 'criticising others willing to have an opinion without offering any of their own just in case someone they get criticised themselves'........; )[/p][/quote]Ignore them . The 'scores' are totally meaningless and give no indication as to the quality of the comment. If it's any consolation your comment was the best thing I have read in years. Have a plus 1![/p][/quote]I feel when the 'T&A' brought in the feature allowing people to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down this has become counter-productive. Some people on here get massive minus scores for making/arguing a legitimate point, which may well be controversial whilst another who barely writes a sentence gets a huge thumbs up vote. Sometimes this 'vox-pop' rating is so poor that you wonder whether others are just 'ganging up' on the person for the sheer nasty pleasure of it! I for one, would rather see a proper argued point that I disagree with than a five word sentence which is just put on to 'play to the gallery.' I believe the 'T& A' should remove this thumbs up/ down device because its only effect seems to possibly inhibit debate-if it does anything. (But, I am sure ,'trolls' love it!)[/p][/quote]Those that are bothered the 'device' are obviously in need constant re-assurance. It is more a reflection on their lack of confidence than anything else.[/p][/quote]Not really Michael. I find it funny. I only raised it as its just indicative of some of the lunacy and cowardice (to a degree e.g some posts get minus 40 yet only 2 or 3 responses. thus suhggesting that they don't have the capacity). Like i say its funny really. anyone craving plus scores is not really a sign of lack of confidence probably more anoyance i'd argue......[/p][/quote]I was responding to Cityman23 but, in any case, my view is pretty much fixed. I can't deny that I spot ludicruous minus scores but I also know that it is the work of a sad jerk who has gone to the trouble of creating multiple addresses. Worst still, the details will be contained on some sort of a list. Michael Clayton
  • Score: 0

5:09pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Baby Bantam says...

whisky1 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
tinytoonster wrote: you have to panic if lawn speaks! i like the comment about wells. factored it into budget. said they tried to get him tied down to a new deal before they got rid. which is it? thats why i do not trust lawn, forked tongue! always the plan to sell, could not afford to keep him. just say that though and stop treating fans like muppets!
I really can't believe idiots like you. That man saved the club from extinction, cleared our debts, took us to a league club final, took us to Wembley twice and got us promoted and kept us in league One and idiots like you have the utter check to question his intents. I think he understand my clubs budget better than you. Stop slagging the man off and get behind him and support Bradford City..
he LENT some money and got it back. rhodes put his money in time after time with no strings. you are getting the real saviour mixed up! i buy a season ticket every year so i'm entitled to my opinion, same as you. how that makes me an idiot baffles me to be honest?
Wrong JR has put in a shedload but he also took a big dividend when we got to the Prem which was fair enough. When you have a million to stick in a basket case business with no security you can start calling. No one else was going to do it. You would not have a team to support without BOTH of them.
Thank you
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: you have to panic if lawn speaks! i like the comment about wells. factored it into budget. said they tried to get him tied down to a new deal before they got rid. which is it? thats why i do not trust lawn, forked tongue! always the plan to sell, could not afford to keep him. just say that though and stop treating fans like muppets![/p][/quote]I really can't believe idiots like you. That man saved the club from extinction, cleared our debts, took us to a league club final, took us to Wembley twice and got us promoted and kept us in league One and idiots like you have the utter check to question his intents. I think he understand my clubs budget better than you. Stop slagging the man off and get behind him and support Bradford City..[/p][/quote]he LENT some money and got it back. rhodes put his money in time after time with no strings. you are getting the real saviour mixed up! i buy a season ticket every year so i'm entitled to my opinion, same as you. how that makes me an idiot baffles me to be honest?[/p][/quote]Wrong JR has put in a shedload but he also took a big dividend when we got to the Prem which was fair enough. When you have a million to stick in a basket case business with no security you can start calling. No one else was going to do it. You would not have a team to support without BOTH of them.[/p][/quote]Thank you Baby Bantam
  • Score: 0

11:05pm Fri 27 Jun 14

schroeder says...

We've made some great signings. Predominantly league 2 players have gone out, and predominantly league 1 players have come in.

What's there to panic about??
We've made some great signings. Predominantly league 2 players have gone out, and predominantly league 1 players have come in. What's there to panic about?? schroeder
  • Score: 0

11:14pm Fri 27 Jun 14

schroeder says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
WHO'S PANICKING??....Its clear we will be sitting at the bottom end of the division come the end of the season. BUT.....If you get rid of your best players (Wells, Jones (Hearbeat of the team), Reid) and replace with "Bang Average" Div 1/2 players that's all you are going to get.
MIND YOU!!...A real test for "Parkys" coaching abilities, me thinks. SO ALL IN ALL.....NO PANIC....Just not expecting too much!.
A BIT LIKE ENGLAND AT THE WORLD CUP!
Supporters of other teams in the league would describe Jones, Reid, Doyle.. as "Bang Average" Div 1/2 players too...
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: WHO'S PANICKING??....Its clear we will be sitting at the bottom end of the division come the end of the season. BUT.....If you get rid of your best players (Wells, Jones (Hearbeat of the team), Reid) and replace with "Bang Average" Div 1/2 players that's all you are going to get. MIND YOU!!...A real test for "Parkys" coaching abilities, me thinks. SO ALL IN ALL.....NO PANIC....Just not expecting too much!. A BIT LIKE ENGLAND AT THE WORLD CUP![/p][/quote]Supporters of other teams in the league would describe Jones, Reid, Doyle.. as "Bang Average" Div 1/2 players too... schroeder
  • Score: 0

1:59am Sat 28 Jun 14

Waynus1971 says...

At the risk of sounding patronising, I wish some of our fans would learn to read (or at least comprehend what they are reading);

Lawn said, "We have a competitive budget this year which is higher than AT LEAST ten other clubs in League One this coming season".
For those that struggle, I have capitalised the two key words for you.

With a budget of around £2m I would expect that to be in the top10. Now we have just to hope PP is spending it wisely. So far, I have been impressed with his signings (although not a big fan of Dolan), until this evening.

I saw the name Billy come up and wrongly assumed it was Billy Kee- who the chuff is Billy Clarke???!!
At the risk of sounding patronising, I wish some of our fans would learn to read (or at least comprehend what they are reading); Lawn said, "We have a competitive budget this year which is higher than AT LEAST ten other clubs in League One this coming season". For those that struggle, I have capitalised the two key words for you. With a budget of around £2m I would expect that to be in the top10. Now we have just to hope PP is spending it wisely. So far, I have been impressed with his signings (although not a big fan of Dolan), until this evening. I saw the name Billy come up and wrongly assumed it was Billy Kee- who the chuff is Billy Clarke???!! Waynus1971
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