Francis Cummins sacked by Bradford Bulls

Francis Cummins sacked by Bradford Bulls

Francis Cummins sacked by Bradford Bulls

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Francis Cummins’ tenure as Bulls head coach ended today after he was relieved of his duties following yesterday’s heavy defeat at Salford Red Devils.

The 37-year-old signed a three-year contract in September 2012 under Omar Khan’s stewardship but the current board made a collective decision to let Cummins and his assistant Lee St Hilaire go.

Cummins originally joined the Bulls as assistant to Mick Potter while St Hilaire has spent eight years with the club, acting as assistant coach and – for a spell – head coach.

A spokesperson for the club’s board of directors said: “This is a decision which has not been made lightly and Bradford Bulls would like to thank both Francis and Lee for their efforts over the years.

“Both have worked under difficult circumstances during their time here, but the club recognises that a change of direction is required.

“The board of directors has the upmost respect for both Francis and Lee and wish them well with their futures.”

The process of replacing both Cummins and St Hilaire is now underway.

In the meantime skipper Matt Diskin has agreed to act as temporary player-coach ahead of Friday’s visit of Hull Kingston Rovers, under the guidance of managing director Steve Ferres.

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3:18pm Mon 16 Jun 14

flashdonut says...

I wish Franny all the best in the future. A credit to himself, the club and the game. Dealt nothing but rubbish yet plodded admirably. Doesn't deserve this in the slightest.
I wish Franny all the best in the future. A credit to himself, the club and the game. Dealt nothing but rubbish yet plodded admirably. Doesn't deserve this in the slightest. flashdonut
  • Score: 26

3:23pm Mon 16 Jun 14

gordon ramsay says...

For financial reasons this surprises me.

Sadly for this season it's akin to re arranging the deck chairs on the titanic. His replacement needs to blood the youngsters as the senior players simply won't be here next year anyway.

Another sad day in many ways
For financial reasons this surprises me. Sadly for this season it's akin to re arranging the deck chairs on the titanic. His replacement needs to blood the youngsters as the senior players simply won't be here next year anyway. Another sad day in many ways gordon ramsay
  • Score: 31

3:26pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Paul from Idle says...

Yes he does! The team has been totally flat week in week out. You can play with passion even if you are not the most talented but the coach has to instill the belief. Peter Fox could get an amateur player to kill for the cause and where the club is at that is the approach that is needed.
Yes he does! The team has been totally flat week in week out. You can play with passion even if you are not the most talented but the coach has to instill the belief. Peter Fox could get an amateur player to kill for the cause and where the club is at that is the approach that is needed. Paul from Idle
  • Score: 37

3:36pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Bullinlancs79 says...

Very sad but in today's modern sporting world inevitable.

He will find work without a problem
Best of luck for the future

Here comes noble.....
Very sad but in today's modern sporting world inevitable. He will find work without a problem Best of luck for the future Here comes noble..... Bullinlancs79
  • Score: 16

3:49pm Mon 16 Jun 14

king karl says...

We needed Julius Caesar - We got Julian Clarey
We needed Julius Caesar - We got Julian Clarey king karl
  • Score: -8

3:49pm Mon 16 Jun 14

pjbull says...

Whilst I am sorry for him personally - he only ever came across as a decent, genuine guy - in my opinion, he has never shown evidence that he is a successful coach. For cost reasons this surprises me and as it is too late for the club to be saved from relegation, I'm not sure what purpose it will now achieve. Whether it is the right decision will always depend on who comes in.
Whilst I am sorry for him personally - he only ever came across as a decent, genuine guy - in my opinion, he has never shown evidence that he is a successful coach. For cost reasons this surprises me and as it is too late for the club to be saved from relegation, I'm not sure what purpose it will now achieve. Whether it is the right decision will always depend on who comes in. pjbull
  • Score: 14

3:51pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Bullinlancs79 says...

Very sad but in this modern day sporting world inevitable.

Best of luck for the future and thank you for all your effort in the face of severe adversity.

I'm afraid I can here a certain mr noble coming up the m606
Very sad but in this modern day sporting world inevitable. Best of luck for the future and thank you for all your effort in the face of severe adversity. I'm afraid I can here a certain mr noble coming up the m606 Bullinlancs79
  • Score: 9

3:51pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Farsley Bantam says...

king karl wrote:
We needed Julius Caesar - We got Julian Clarey
You needed Ghengis Khan - you got Omar Khan
[quote][p][bold]king karl[/bold] wrote: We needed Julius Caesar - We got Julian Clarey[/p][/quote]You needed Ghengis Khan - you got Omar Khan Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 40

3:58pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Bowlingboy says...

A bit of good news at last,
Only about 8 weeks to late,
Oh well least we will get a fresh approach in the championship....
A bit of good news at last, Only about 8 weeks to late, Oh well least we will get a fresh approach in the championship.... Bowlingboy
  • Score: 10

3:59pm Mon 16 Jun 14

rogerthat! says...

I suppose that all those hypocrites will now post on here ( what a great guy). Now that he is sacked. Always a no 2 even to his wife!! Only got the job because Potter recommended him. Diskin?? Never. Bring in Nobby he will sort this lot out and get us ready for the Championship.
I suppose that all those hypocrites will now post on here ( what a great guy). Now that he is sacked. Always a no 2 even to his wife!! Only got the job because Potter recommended him. Diskin?? Never. Bring in Nobby he will sort this lot out and get us ready for the Championship. rogerthat!
  • Score: 16

3:59pm Mon 16 Jun 14

gavskidoodle says...

Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk. gavskidoodle
  • Score: 10

4:08pm Mon 16 Jun 14

BirchLane-1964 says...

gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Nobby did a great job taking the team forward after Matthew Elliott built up the squad, but has struggled since. Nothing against him coming back now to oversee things but my suggestion would be bring in a hard case to strike fear into the players, how about Karl Fairbank for starters?!! Crikey I'd be scared to miss a game if he were in charge!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Nobby did a great job taking the team forward after Matthew Elliott built up the squad, but has struggled since. Nothing against him coming back now to oversee things but my suggestion would be bring in a hard case to strike fear into the players, how about Karl Fairbank for starters?!! Crikey I'd be scared to miss a game if he were in charge!!!!!! BirchLane-1964
  • Score: 14

4:10pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bullybullman says...

Welcome back Mr Noble ??????

At last some balls ! Franny has been allowed to carry on purely on sympathy he did stick by the club during hard times but to be honest he had few other options. A nice guy but a weak coach with an even weaker deputy !

Lets hope this gives the fans & the squad a boost & at least we may end the season with some pride. I doubt many of the squad will have any issues with this.
Welcome back Mr Noble ?????? At last some balls ! Franny has been allowed to carry on purely on sympathy he did stick by the club during hard times but to be honest he had few other options. A nice guy but a weak coach with an even weaker deputy ! Lets hope this gives the fans & the squad a boost & at least we may end the season with some pride. I doubt many of the squad will have any issues with this. bullybullman
  • Score: 3

4:11pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Bullinlancs79 says...

gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he inherited a world class side from smith with endless amounts of money that we didn't have in reality. He has done nothing since he left us of any note.

Now we have next to nothing money wise and have to build a side for next year based on youth...... Not a job for noble
[quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he inherited a world class side from smith with endless amounts of money that we didn't have in reality. He has done nothing since he left us of any note. Now we have next to nothing money wise and have to build a side for next year based on youth...... Not a job for noble Bullinlancs79
  • Score: -2

4:12pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Solomon Grundy says...

Very sad and I hope FC comes back stronger for this somewhere else and makes a success of his career. But we needed to make a change. Well done Mr Green, he has taken control of the situation and done the right thing.
Very sad and I hope FC comes back stronger for this somewhere else and makes a success of his career. But we needed to make a change. Well done Mr Green, he has taken control of the situation and done the right thing. Solomon Grundy
  • Score: 8

4:12pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bullybullman says...

gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.
[quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us. bullybullman
  • Score: -7

4:14pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

Has this board spent any real money on this team yet?

The building plot gets nearer.
Has this board spent any real money on this team yet? The building plot gets nearer. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: 6

4:21pm Mon 16 Jun 14

haterugbysometimes says...

Praise the Lord about piggin time, too late to save us I think but it's a start, bye bye Cummins thanks for nowt
Praise the Lord about piggin time, too late to save us I think but it's a start, bye bye Cummins thanks for nowt haterugbysometimes
  • Score: 0

4:23pm Mon 16 Jun 14

1964gc says...

fc will get an appointment somewhere ,and in time do well no doubt.

saint hilaire will vanish completely without a trace
fc will get an appointment somewhere ,and in time do well no doubt. saint hilaire will vanish completely without a trace 1964gc
  • Score: 8

4:29pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Bullinlancs79 says...

haterugbysometimes wrote:
Praise the Lord about piggin time, too late to save us I think but it's a start, bye bye Cummins thanks for nowt
I doubt Wayne Bennett could have done anything with us over the past three years. Circumstances have dictated results. We have got what we deserved because we couldn't spend money properly. We will go down but with the right coach come back up in the nest three years stronger
[quote][p][bold]haterugbysometimes[/bold] wrote: Praise the Lord about piggin time, too late to save us I think but it's a start, bye bye Cummins thanks for nowt[/p][/quote]I doubt Wayne Bennett could have done anything with us over the past three years. Circumstances have dictated results. We have got what we deserved because we couldn't spend money properly. We will go down but with the right coach come back up in the nest three years stronger Bullinlancs79
  • Score: 4

4:36pm Mon 16 Jun 14

olijack09 says...

Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none.

Do it now Mr Greene
Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none. Do it now Mr Greene olijack09
  • Score: 45

4:43pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Bone_idle18 says...

olijack09 wrote:
Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none.

Do it now Mr Greene
Well said!
[quote][p][bold]olijack09[/bold] wrote: Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none. Do it now Mr Greene[/p][/quote]Well said! Bone_idle18
  • Score: 25

4:44pm Mon 16 Jun 14

jackie-varley@hotmail.co.uk says...

I think they have treated him shockingly what could he do It is the owners who caused the trouble he was the scapegoat shame on them I have been a fan for years but not anymore
I think they have treated him shockingly what could he do It is the owners who caused the trouble he was the scapegoat shame on them I have been a fan for years but not anymore jackie-varley@hotmail.co.uk
  • Score: -18

4:57pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Bullinlancs79 says...

olijack09 wrote:
Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none.

Do it now Mr Greene
He 'saved' Wigan with lennigans cash. He ran the crusaders with the RFL's money. We have NO money . He is a good coach with cash to spend.... We have NO cash . No doubt he will come back till the end of the season and then bolt when another owner offers him a bigger salary..... Like last time
[quote][p][bold]olijack09[/bold] wrote: Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none. Do it now Mr Greene[/p][/quote]He 'saved' Wigan with lennigans cash. He ran the crusaders with the RFL's money. We have NO money . He is a good coach with cash to spend.... We have NO cash . No doubt he will come back till the end of the season and then bolt when another owner offers him a bigger salary..... Like last time Bullinlancs79
  • Score: -23

4:58pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Glenn Morrison anybody?
Glenn Morrison anybody? Bone_idle18
  • Score: 19

5:02pm Mon 16 Jun 14

southernbull says...

I think this had to happen but still think that FC will get another job shortly elsewhere and the best of luck to him......as regards St Hilaire the less said the better, if thats what a defence coach is supposed to do than think I would have more trust in Stevie Wonder coaching our defence.
Dont think it will have any radical change on the team between now and the end of the season but then again how many times have we seen football clubs sack the manager and they see an upturn in results.....we can live in hope!!! CYOB
I think this had to happen but still think that FC will get another job shortly elsewhere and the best of luck to him......as regards St Hilaire the less said the better, if thats what a defence coach is supposed to do than think I would have more trust in Stevie Wonder coaching our defence. Dont think it will have any radical change on the team between now and the end of the season but then again how many times have we seen football clubs sack the manager and they see an upturn in results.....we can live in hope!!! CYOB southernbull
  • Score: 9

5:05pm Mon 16 Jun 14

mumbyfan says...

Spooky this been thinking at work this morning that we don't have a history of sacking coaches. I think Peter Foxs 2nd spell when he was replace by Brian Smith was the last time, and the time before that was Ron Willey!

Its ironic though that Hood should have the sacking recently. Ie McNamara.

He kept him on far too long, and when he did eventually let him go it was after a twelve match losing run when McNamara had effectively given up.

So Cummins. Its sad for the lad because i think he has the makings of a good coach,BUT I was increasingly concerned over the way we started games, how many times were we 3/4/5 tries down before coming back?
Thats motivation right there, and he obviously wasn't providing it.

I said after the Wigan away game that Noble had to come back.

That view has not changed.

PS Lee StHilaire, the pennine league is calling for you. Totally out of your depth. Coincidence that he's been there 8 years and our last 8 years have been the worst ever! He joined when we were world champions, now we are championship. Thanks Lee.
Spooky this been thinking at work this morning that we don't have a history of sacking coaches. I think Peter Foxs 2nd spell when he was replace by Brian Smith was the last time, and the time before that was Ron Willey! Its ironic though that Hood should have the sacking recently. Ie McNamara. He kept him on far too long, and when he did eventually let him go it was after a twelve match losing run when McNamara had effectively given up. So Cummins. Its sad for the lad because i think he has the makings of a good coach,BUT I was increasingly concerned over the way we started games, how many times were we 3/4/5 tries down before coming back? Thats motivation right there, and he obviously wasn't providing it. I said after the Wigan away game that Noble had to come back. That view has not changed. PS Lee StHilaire, the pennine league is calling for you. Totally out of your depth. Coincidence that he's been there 8 years and our last 8 years have been the worst ever! He joined when we were world champions, now we are championship. Thanks Lee. mumbyfan
  • Score: 14

5:07pm Mon 16 Jun 14

mumbyfan says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Glenn Morrison anybody?
thought that yesterday…. Karl Pryce has been horrendous at dewsbury by all accounts too.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Glenn Morrison anybody?[/p][/quote]thought that yesterday…. Karl Pryce has been horrendous at dewsbury by all accounts too. mumbyfan
  • Score: -4

5:17pm Mon 16 Jun 14

olijack09 says...

Bullinlancs79 wrote:
olijack09 wrote:
Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none.

Do it now Mr Greene
He 'saved' Wigan with lennigans cash. He ran the crusaders with the RFL's money. We have NO money . He is a good coach with cash to spend.... We have NO cash . No doubt he will come back till the end of the season and then bolt when another owner offers him a bigger salary..... Like last time
Educate yourself on history. The chief executive, Gareth Davies, offered him to Wigan as a cost cutting exercise once Millward was gone, he openly touted him and made a lot of money in compensation as he was under contract. Wanted the cheaper Mcnamarra, Who would stay when learning of such devious action behind his back. I dont see why spending money when available is such a negative concept either. However, that is water under the bridge, remember, he offered his services, for NOTHING in 2011. Very disparaging slur of character imo.He can cut his cloth to suit.
[quote][p][bold]Bullinlancs79[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]olijack09[/bold] wrote: Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none. Do it now Mr Greene[/p][/quote]He 'saved' Wigan with lennigans cash. He ran the crusaders with the RFL's money. We have NO money . He is a good coach with cash to spend.... We have NO cash . No doubt he will come back till the end of the season and then bolt when another owner offers him a bigger salary..... Like last time[/p][/quote]Educate yourself on history. The chief executive, Gareth Davies, offered him to Wigan as a cost cutting exercise once Millward was gone, he openly touted him and made a lot of money in compensation as he was under contract. Wanted the cheaper Mcnamarra, Who would stay when learning of such devious action behind his back. I dont see why spending money when available is such a negative concept either. However, that is water under the bridge, remember, he offered his services, for NOTHING in 2011. Very disparaging slur of character imo.He can cut his cloth to suit. olijack09
  • Score: 8

5:24pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bullybullman says...

olijack09 wrote:
Bullinlancs79 wrote:
olijack09 wrote:
Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none.

Do it now Mr Greene
He 'saved' Wigan with lennigans cash. He ran the crusaders with the RFL's money. We have NO money . He is a good coach with cash to spend.... We have NO cash . No doubt he will come back till the end of the season and then bolt when another owner offers him a bigger salary..... Like last time
Educate yourself on history. The chief executive, Gareth Davies, offered him to Wigan as a cost cutting exercise once Millward was gone, he openly touted him and made a lot of money in compensation as he was under contract. Wanted the cheaper Mcnamarra, Who would stay when learning of such devious action behind his back. I dont see why spending money when available is such a negative concept either. However, that is water under the bridge, remember, he offered his services, for NOTHING in 2011. Very disparaging slur of character imo.He can cut his cloth to suit.
Educate yourself on history. The chief executive, Gareth Davies told Noble his playing budget was being slashed to 70% of cap & Noble jumped ship at the earliest opertunity ! however I think the time is right for Noble to come back for a second stint all that is history.
[quote][p][bold]olijack09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bullinlancs79[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]olijack09[/bold] wrote: Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none. Do it now Mr Greene[/p][/quote]He 'saved' Wigan with lennigans cash. He ran the crusaders with the RFL's money. We have NO money . He is a good coach with cash to spend.... We have NO cash . No doubt he will come back till the end of the season and then bolt when another owner offers him a bigger salary..... Like last time[/p][/quote]Educate yourself on history. The chief executive, Gareth Davies, offered him to Wigan as a cost cutting exercise once Millward was gone, he openly touted him and made a lot of money in compensation as he was under contract. Wanted the cheaper Mcnamarra, Who would stay when learning of such devious action behind his back. I dont see why spending money when available is such a negative concept either. However, that is water under the bridge, remember, he offered his services, for NOTHING in 2011. Very disparaging slur of character imo.He can cut his cloth to suit.[/p][/quote]Educate yourself on history. The chief executive, Gareth Davies told Noble his playing budget was being slashed to 70% of cap & Noble jumped ship at the earliest opertunity ! however I think the time is right for Noble to come back for a second stint all that is history. bullybullman
  • Score: 5

5:30pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Bullinlancs79 says...

bullybullman wrote:
olijack09 wrote:
Bullinlancs79 wrote:
olijack09 wrote:
Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none.

Do it now Mr Greene
He 'saved' Wigan with lennigans cash. He ran the crusaders with the RFL's money. We have NO money . He is a good coach with cash to spend.... We have NO cash . No doubt he will come back till the end of the season and then bolt when another owner offers him a bigger salary..... Like last time
Educate yourself on history. The chief executive, Gareth Davies, offered him to Wigan as a cost cutting exercise once Millward was gone, he openly touted him and made a lot of money in compensation as he was under contract. Wanted the cheaper Mcnamarra, Who would stay when learning of such devious action behind his back. I dont see why spending money when available is such a negative concept either. However, that is water under the bridge, remember, he offered his services, for NOTHING in 2011. Very disparaging slur of character imo.He can cut his cloth to suit.
Educate yourself on history. The chief executive, Gareth Davies told Noble his playing budget was being slashed to 70% of cap & Noble jumped ship at the earliest opertunity ! however I think the time is right for Noble to come back for a second stint all that is history.
Took the words out of my mouth apart from the time is right for noble to come back .
[quote][p][bold]bullybullman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]olijack09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bullinlancs79[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]olijack09[/bold] wrote: Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none. Do it now Mr Greene[/p][/quote]He 'saved' Wigan with lennigans cash. He ran the crusaders with the RFL's money. We have NO money . He is a good coach with cash to spend.... We have NO cash . No doubt he will come back till the end of the season and then bolt when another owner offers him a bigger salary..... Like last time[/p][/quote]Educate yourself on history. The chief executive, Gareth Davies, offered him to Wigan as a cost cutting exercise once Millward was gone, he openly touted him and made a lot of money in compensation as he was under contract. Wanted the cheaper Mcnamarra, Who would stay when learning of such devious action behind his back. I dont see why spending money when available is such a negative concept either. However, that is water under the bridge, remember, he offered his services, for NOTHING in 2011. Very disparaging slur of character imo.He can cut his cloth to suit.[/p][/quote]Educate yourself on history. The chief executive, Gareth Davies told Noble his playing budget was being slashed to 70% of cap & Noble jumped ship at the earliest opertunity ! however I think the time is right for Noble to come back for a second stint all that is history.[/p][/quote]Took the words out of my mouth apart from the time is right for noble to come back . Bullinlancs79
  • Score: -4

5:45pm Mon 16 Jun 14

monobrow man says...

Bullinlancs79 wrote:
olijack09 wrote:
Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none.

Do it now Mr Greene
He 'saved' Wigan with lennigans cash. He ran the crusaders with the RFL's money. We have NO money . He is a good coach with cash to spend.... We have NO cash . No doubt he will come back till the end of the season and then bolt when another owner offers him a bigger salary..... Like last time
Doesn't matter what sort of players cummins has had. Not one player has improved under his coaching.
[quote][p][bold]Bullinlancs79[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]olijack09[/bold] wrote: Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none. Do it now Mr Greene[/p][/quote]He 'saved' Wigan with lennigans cash. He ran the crusaders with the RFL's money. We have NO money . He is a good coach with cash to spend.... We have NO cash . No doubt he will come back till the end of the season and then bolt when another owner offers him a bigger salary..... Like last time[/p][/quote]Doesn't matter what sort of players cummins has had. Not one player has improved under his coaching. monobrow man
  • Score: 12

5:49pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Bullinlancs79 says...

monobrow man wrote:
Bullinlancs79 wrote:
olijack09 wrote:
Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none.

Do it now Mr Greene
He 'saved' Wigan with lennigans cash. He ran the crusaders with the RFL's money. We have NO money . He is a good coach with cash to spend.... We have NO cash . No doubt he will come back till the end of the season and then bolt when another owner offers him a bigger salary..... Like last time
Doesn't matter what sort of players cummins has had. Not one player has improved under his coaching.
I'm not defending cummins but it's very sad considering the crisis he had to work through . His team selection was poor though, playing addy at SO is idiotic. No speed at half back and no bulk in the front row has cost him his job . Decent man but I'm afraid in this life that counts for nothing
[quote][p][bold]monobrow man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bullinlancs79[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]olijack09[/bold] wrote: Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none. Do it now Mr Greene[/p][/quote]He 'saved' Wigan with lennigans cash. He ran the crusaders with the RFL's money. We have NO money . He is a good coach with cash to spend.... We have NO cash . No doubt he will come back till the end of the season and then bolt when another owner offers him a bigger salary..... Like last time[/p][/quote]Doesn't matter what sort of players cummins has had. Not one player has improved under his coaching.[/p][/quote]I'm not defending cummins but it's very sad considering the crisis he had to work through . His team selection was poor though, playing addy at SO is idiotic. No speed at half back and no bulk in the front row has cost him his job . Decent man but I'm afraid in this life that counts for nothing Bullinlancs79
  • Score: 7

5:50pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Bullinlancs79 says...

monobrow man wrote:
Bullinlancs79 wrote:
olijack09 wrote:
Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none.

Do it now Mr Greene
He 'saved' Wigan with lennigans cash. He ran the crusaders with the RFL's money. We have NO money . He is a good coach with cash to spend.... We have NO cash . No doubt he will come back till the end of the season and then bolt when another owner offers him a bigger salary..... Like last time
Doesn't matter what sort of players cummins has had. Not one player has improved under his coaching.
I'm not defending cummins but it's very sad considering the crisis he had to work through . His team selection was poor though, playing addy at SO is idiotic. No speed at half back and no bulk in the front row has cost him his job . Decent man but I'm afraid in this life that counts for nothing
[quote][p][bold]monobrow man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bullinlancs79[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]olijack09[/bold] wrote: Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none. Do it now Mr Greene[/p][/quote]He 'saved' Wigan with lennigans cash. He ran the crusaders with the RFL's money. We have NO money . He is a good coach with cash to spend.... We have NO cash . No doubt he will come back till the end of the season and then bolt when another owner offers him a bigger salary..... Like last time[/p][/quote]Doesn't matter what sort of players cummins has had. Not one player has improved under his coaching.[/p][/quote]I'm not defending cummins but it's very sad considering the crisis he had to work through . His team selection was poor though, playing addy at SO is idiotic. No speed at half back and no bulk in the front row has cost him his job . Decent man but I'm afraid in this life that counts for nothing Bullinlancs79
  • Score: 4

6:05pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Van Bellen's Baby says...

Bullinlancs79 wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he inherited a world class side from smith with endless amounts of money that we didn't have in reality. He has done nothing since he left us of any note.

Now we have next to nothing money wise and have to build a side for next year based on youth...... Not a job for noble
Not true Bullinlancs. Turned a relegation threatened Wigan side into one game short of Old Trafford in a couple of years and built a Crusaders side from scratch just a couple of months before the season started and made the play-offs with them. Sacked ludicrously early by Salford which is the only 'blemish' to his superb career.
[quote][p][bold]Bullinlancs79[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he inherited a world class side from smith with endless amounts of money that we didn't have in reality. He has done nothing since he left us of any note. Now we have next to nothing money wise and have to build a side for next year based on youth...... Not a job for noble[/p][/quote]Not true Bullinlancs. Turned a relegation threatened Wigan side into one game short of Old Trafford in a couple of years and built a Crusaders side from scratch just a couple of months before the season started and made the play-offs with them. Sacked ludicrously early by Salford which is the only 'blemish' to his superb career. Van Bellen's Baby
  • Score: 19

6:16pm Mon 16 Jun 14

raisemeup says...

Bullinlancs79 wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he inherited a world class side from smith with endless amounts of money that we didn't have in reality. He has done nothing since he left us of any note.

Now we have next to nothing money wise and have to build a side for next year based on youth...... Not a job for noble
We still have the ability to talk rubbish, with an element of I know this for a fact don't we/you Bullin lancs?
[quote][p][bold]Bullinlancs79[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he inherited a world class side from smith with endless amounts of money that we didn't have in reality. He has done nothing since he left us of any note. Now we have next to nothing money wise and have to build a side for next year based on youth...... Not a job for noble[/p][/quote]We still have the ability to talk rubbish, with an element of I know this for a fact don't we/you Bullin lancs? raisemeup
  • Score: 10

6:16pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Bullinlancs79 says...

Van Bellen's Baby wrote:
Bullinlancs79 wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he inherited a world class side from smith with endless amounts of money that we didn't have in reality. He has done nothing since he left us of any note.

Now we have next to nothing money wise and have to build a side for next year based on youth...... Not a job for noble
Not true Bullinlancs. Turned a relegation threatened Wigan side into one game short of Old Trafford in a couple of years and built a Crusaders side from scratch just a couple of months before the season started and made the play-offs with them. Sacked ludicrously early by Salford which is the only 'blemish' to his superb career.
All with cash....... We have none !!!

I have no doubt nobles phone has been ringing all day from green. It's his job to take it seems....... What happens if his doesn't take it...... I wonder what all you noble lovers will say then!!!! It's noticeable that he takes jobs on to boost his ego or his bank balance which I suppose is understandable...... But this current job really doesn't offer that does it so I wonder..........
[quote][p][bold]Van Bellen's Baby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bullinlancs79[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he inherited a world class side from smith with endless amounts of money that we didn't have in reality. He has done nothing since he left us of any note. Now we have next to nothing money wise and have to build a side for next year based on youth...... Not a job for noble[/p][/quote]Not true Bullinlancs. Turned a relegation threatened Wigan side into one game short of Old Trafford in a couple of years and built a Crusaders side from scratch just a couple of months before the season started and made the play-offs with them. Sacked ludicrously early by Salford which is the only 'blemish' to his superb career.[/p][/quote]All with cash....... We have none !!! I have no doubt nobles phone has been ringing all day from green. It's his job to take it seems....... What happens if his doesn't take it...... I wonder what all you noble lovers will say then!!!! It's noticeable that he takes jobs on to boost his ego or his bank balance which I suppose is understandable...... But this current job really doesn't offer that does it so I wonder.......... Bullinlancs79
  • Score: -6

6:29pm Mon 16 Jun 14

raisemeup says...

bullybullman wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.
A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be..
I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.
[quote][p][bold]bullybullman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.[/p][/quote]A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be.. I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach. raisemeup
  • Score: 10

6:32pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Bullinlancs79 says...

raisemeup wrote:
Bullinlancs79 wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he inherited a world class side from smith with endless amounts of money that we didn't have in reality. He has done nothing since he left us of any note.

Now we have next to nothing money wise and have to build a side for next year based on youth...... Not a job for noble
We still have the ability to talk rubbish, with an element of I know this for a fact don't we/you Bullin lancs?
I probably know about as much fact as you do, however I have the ability to take the rose tinted spectacles off and separate as best I can fact from fiction
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bullinlancs79[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he inherited a world class side from smith with endless amounts of money that we didn't have in reality. He has done nothing since he left us of any note. Now we have next to nothing money wise and have to build a side for next year based on youth...... Not a job for noble[/p][/quote]We still have the ability to talk rubbish, with an element of I know this for a fact don't we/you Bullin lancs?[/p][/quote]I probably know about as much fact as you do, however I have the ability to take the rose tinted spectacles off and separate as best I can fact from fiction Bullinlancs79
  • Score: -7

6:55pm Mon 16 Jun 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

We will still be in special measures even if Nobby does come back.His signings will have to be loans or from the Pennine League.
We will still be in special measures even if Nobby does come back.His signings will have to be loans or from the Pennine League. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 1

7:09pm Mon 16 Jun 14

gavskidoodle says...

Mr green has got money. There's just no decent talent out there @ this point in the season,so why waste it!!
Mr green has got money. There's just no decent talent out there @ this point in the season,so why waste it!! gavskidoodle
  • Score: -2

7:10pm Mon 16 Jun 14

nosher says...

Feel sorry for Cummins but not hilaire. How he survived so long is a mystery. My mate Alex reckons he was an agent put in by Leeds to bring down our downfall lol. We should never take anybody from Leeds. The only good think to come out of Leeds is the 508 bus to Halifax.
Feel sorry for Cummins but not hilaire. How he survived so long is a mystery. My mate Alex reckons he was an agent put in by Leeds to bring down our downfall lol. We should never take anybody from Leeds. The only good think to come out of Leeds is the 508 bus to Halifax. nosher
  • Score: 4

7:12pm Mon 16 Jun 14

The Fat Lady Sings says...

flashdonut wrote:
I wish Franny all the best in the future. A credit to himself, the club and the game. Dealt nothing but rubbish yet plodded admirably. Doesn't deserve this in the slightest.
The club is a business. No room for sentiment. Mr Cummins completely out of his depth. The team was not showing any signs of improvement. He should have been sacked weeks ago, now I fear it is too late for a "new"coach to save us. Not too happy about brother-in-law Matt being temporary coach, Another poor Cummins decision to hand contract extensions to his old Leeds buddies. Nepotism is associated with decline. The big worry now is that is the rot is not going to stop here. We are ill-prepared for Championship rugby and could be in Championship 1 before we know it. Mr Greene to pocket the parachute payment and say goodbye. It all started when a certain Mr Hood thought that a certain Mr MacNamara was the "bees-knees"because a certain Mr Pryce had told him so so he instructed a cetatin Mr Davies to stab a certain Mr Noble in the back, get money from Wigan for his contract plus another 450K for a certain Mr Fielden. The rest is history but somehow Mr Hood was absolved of any blame because we had many, many apologists on this site saying he was the way forward, the man with financial prudence. Never has so much disinformation been spouted and eagerly consumed by the gullible. It's a truism in like - you get what you deserve.
[quote][p][bold]flashdonut[/bold] wrote: I wish Franny all the best in the future. A credit to himself, the club and the game. Dealt nothing but rubbish yet plodded admirably. Doesn't deserve this in the slightest.[/p][/quote]The club is a business. No room for sentiment. Mr Cummins completely out of his depth. The team was not showing any signs of improvement. He should have been sacked weeks ago, now I fear it is too late for a "new"coach to save us. Not too happy about brother-in-law Matt being temporary coach, Another poor Cummins decision to hand contract extensions to his old Leeds buddies. Nepotism is associated with decline. The big worry now is that is the rot is not going to stop here. We are ill-prepared for Championship rugby and could be in Championship 1 before we know it. Mr Greene to pocket the parachute payment and say goodbye. It all started when a certain Mr Hood thought that a certain Mr MacNamara was the "bees-knees"because a certain Mr Pryce had told him so so he instructed a cetatin Mr Davies to stab a certain Mr Noble in the back, get money from Wigan for his contract plus another 450K for a certain Mr Fielden. The rest is history but somehow Mr Hood was absolved of any blame because we had many, many apologists on this site saying he was the way forward, the man with financial prudence. Never has so much disinformation been spouted and eagerly consumed by the gullible. It's a truism in like - you get what you deserve. The Fat Lady Sings
  • Score: 21

7:15pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Letshavealook says...

Not surprise about this sacking, Cummins has not delivered and I doubt if he was ever capable of making real difference. Time to start again in the lower league and with complete fresh blood. In the clamour for Noble to come back let's not forget that he has done little delivery in the last few years. And more importantly he showed no loyalty to the Bulls when he left for Wigan. The night before his departure, after the game against Wigan and publicly on Sky he gave the impression that he was staying despite the speculation that he had already signed for Wigan. The next morning he was declared the Wigan boss. Noble is not the man for Bradford. We need a person with true integrity.

And don't get me stated on RHP- he should be shown the door too.
Not surprise about this sacking, Cummins has not delivered and I doubt if he was ever capable of making real difference. Time to start again in the lower league and with complete fresh blood. In the clamour for Noble to come back let's not forget that he has done little delivery in the last few years. And more importantly he showed no loyalty to the Bulls when he left for Wigan. The night before his departure, after the game against Wigan and publicly on Sky he gave the impression that he was staying despite the speculation that he had already signed for Wigan. The next morning he was declared the Wigan boss. Noble is not the man for Bradford. We need a person with true integrity. And don't get me stated on RHP- he should be shown the door too. Letshavealook
  • Score: -6

7:18pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Hullbull says...

If Nobby comes he will instill some spirit in what is ultimately a very poor side. If he can stop them shipping 40+ points week in week out i would consider that a result. I for one would be happy to see him in charge of our transition and what will be ultimately the rebuilding of the Bulls. People dont give credit to what he has achieved over the years both as a player and first grade coach.
I think he may not come because he will not want to preside over the demise of the club from super league, but i hope he does because we will come back stronger for his input.
If Nobby comes he will instill some spirit in what is ultimately a very poor side. If he can stop them shipping 40+ points week in week out i would consider that a result. I for one would be happy to see him in charge of our transition and what will be ultimately the rebuilding of the Bulls. People dont give credit to what he has achieved over the years both as a player and first grade coach. I think he may not come because he will not want to preside over the demise of the club from super league, but i hope he does because we will come back stronger for his input. Hullbull
  • Score: 9

7:22pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Bullinlancs79 says...

The Fat Lady Sings wrote:
flashdonut wrote:
I wish Franny all the best in the future. A credit to himself, the club and the game. Dealt nothing but rubbish yet plodded admirably. Doesn't deserve this in the slightest.
The club is a business. No room for sentiment. Mr Cummins completely out of his depth. The team was not showing any signs of improvement. He should have been sacked weeks ago, now I fear it is too late for a "new"coach to save us. Not too happy about brother-in-law Matt being temporary coach, Another poor Cummins decision to hand contract extensions to his old Leeds buddies. Nepotism is associated with decline. The big worry now is that is the rot is not going to stop here. We are ill-prepared for Championship rugby and could be in Championship 1 before we know it. Mr Greene to pocket the parachute payment and say goodbye. It all started when a certain Mr Hood thought that a certain Mr MacNamara was the "bees-knees"because a certain Mr Pryce had told him so so he instructed a cetatin Mr Davies to stab a certain Mr Noble in the back, get money from Wigan for his contract plus another 450K for a certain Mr Fielden. The rest is history but somehow Mr Hood was absolved of any blame because we had many, many apologists on this site saying he was the way forward, the man with financial prudence. Never has so much disinformation been spouted and eagerly consumed by the gullible. It's a truism in like - you get what you deserve.
No one is an angel in business. Nobody wanted to invest in us 4 years ago when we ran out of cash so we got what we deserved. The fans and clerical staff are the ones who suffered..... Not really anyone else...... They tripped off to pastures new without a care in the world and it seems no guilt or admittance either!

Downsize and rebuild is the only way forward to the bulls now
[quote][p][bold]The Fat Lady Sings[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flashdonut[/bold] wrote: I wish Franny all the best in the future. A credit to himself, the club and the game. Dealt nothing but rubbish yet plodded admirably. Doesn't deserve this in the slightest.[/p][/quote]The club is a business. No room for sentiment. Mr Cummins completely out of his depth. The team was not showing any signs of improvement. He should have been sacked weeks ago, now I fear it is too late for a "new"coach to save us. Not too happy about brother-in-law Matt being temporary coach, Another poor Cummins decision to hand contract extensions to his old Leeds buddies. Nepotism is associated with decline. The big worry now is that is the rot is not going to stop here. We are ill-prepared for Championship rugby and could be in Championship 1 before we know it. Mr Greene to pocket the parachute payment and say goodbye. It all started when a certain Mr Hood thought that a certain Mr MacNamara was the "bees-knees"because a certain Mr Pryce had told him so so he instructed a cetatin Mr Davies to stab a certain Mr Noble in the back, get money from Wigan for his contract plus another 450K for a certain Mr Fielden. The rest is history but somehow Mr Hood was absolved of any blame because we had many, many apologists on this site saying he was the way forward, the man with financial prudence. Never has so much disinformation been spouted and eagerly consumed by the gullible. It's a truism in like - you get what you deserve.[/p][/quote]No one is an angel in business. Nobody wanted to invest in us 4 years ago when we ran out of cash so we got what we deserved. The fans and clerical staff are the ones who suffered..... Not really anyone else...... They tripped off to pastures new without a care in the world and it seems no guilt or admittance either! Downsize and rebuild is the only way forward to the bulls now Bullinlancs79
  • Score: 2

7:43pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Mr Capp says...

Root and branch review should have been completed 20 minutes after the wigan farce!
Root and branch review should have been completed 20 minutes after the wigan farce! Mr Capp
  • Score: 9

8:06pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bully4us says...

Spanglish.
I don't think we are still in special measures. Didn't we sign Fakir outright?
Spanglish. I don't think we are still in special measures. Didn't we sign Fakir outright? bully4us
  • Score: 0

8:11pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Videoref says...

raisemeup wrote:
bullybullman wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.
A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be..
I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.
Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullybullman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.[/p][/quote]A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be.. I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens? Videoref
  • Score: -1

8:42pm Mon 16 Jun 14

birstallbull says...

After the Salford display and the open criticism of the team in the post match conference. There was really no other course of action open to the board. FC is an honest hard working coach who I feel has failed to deal effectively with the situation he has found himself in. The recent team selections are a prime example of his lack of experience in this pressure cooker situation. We desperately need an experienced head coach with a proven track record. Someone who appreciates what this club means to the fans, the city and the wider rugby league community. The only person in my opinion who fulfills this criteria is Brian Noble and the sooner Mr Green can convince Brian that he is the man to take the playing side forward and instill some pride back into the shirt the better.
After the Salford display and the open criticism of the team in the post match conference. There was really no other course of action open to the board. FC is an honest hard working coach who I feel has failed to deal effectively with the situation he has found himself in. The recent team selections are a prime example of his lack of experience in this pressure cooker situation. We desperately need an experienced head coach with a proven track record. Someone who appreciates what this club means to the fans, the city and the wider rugby league community. The only person in my opinion who fulfills this criteria is Brian Noble and the sooner Mr Green can convince Brian that he is the man to take the playing side forward and instill some pride back into the shirt the better. birstallbull
  • Score: 9

8:42pm Mon 16 Jun 14

BirchLane-1964 says...

Videoref wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
bullybullman wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.
A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be..
I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.
Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?
Best piece of business the bulls did at that time and still more of a statement of intent than anything we've done since. Offloading newlove for Dwyer, Nickle and Loughlin was the birth of the bulls success in super league. That coupled with class acts in Graham Bradley and Robbie Paul would be hard to replicate at the minute. Peter Fox will always be a northern legend with the success he brought. And he learnt to adapt from the style of play he used in the late 70's early 80's to a more exciting brand in the 90's when we just missed out on the title on points difference to the all conquering Wigan at their peak. I would have another Fox back in charge anytime. Wouldn't stand for messing about and a true motivator of even the most average player
[quote][p][bold]Videoref[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullybullman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.[/p][/quote]A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be.. I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?[/p][/quote]Best piece of business the bulls did at that time and still more of a statement of intent than anything we've done since. Offloading newlove for Dwyer, Nickle and Loughlin was the birth of the bulls success in super league. That coupled with class acts in Graham Bradley and Robbie Paul would be hard to replicate at the minute. Peter Fox will always be a northern legend with the success he brought. And he learnt to adapt from the style of play he used in the late 70's early 80's to a more exciting brand in the 90's when we just missed out on the title on points difference to the all conquering Wigan at their peak. I would have another Fox back in charge anytime. Wouldn't stand for messing about and a true motivator of even the most average player BirchLane-1964
  • Score: 13

8:50pm Mon 16 Jun 14

BirchLane-1964 says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Glenn Morrison anybody?
Jamie Langley as assistant as well.?Longer term how about someone like Steve Menzies once we become established again and the cash is there? He would be seriously respected an attract top quality players? Sorry, just thinking 10 years ahead, now I'm depressed again, we have to get past Keighley and Sweaty Sox first!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Glenn Morrison anybody?[/p][/quote]Jamie Langley as assistant as well.?Longer term how about someone like Steve Menzies once we become established again and the cash is there? He would be seriously respected an attract top quality players? Sorry, just thinking 10 years ahead, now I'm depressed again, we have to get past Keighley and Sweaty Sox first!!!! BirchLane-1964
  • Score: 7

9:20pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bradfordbronco says...

BirchLane-1964 wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Glenn Morrison anybody?
Jamie Langley as assistant as well.?Longer term how about someone like Steve Menzies once we become established again and the cash is there? He would be seriously respected an attract top quality players? Sorry, just thinking 10 years ahead, now I'm depressed again, we have to get past Keighley and Sweaty Sox first!!!!
Think it was a terrible decision by Hood NOT to let Menzies have a go at coaching till the end of season when McNamarra left. Menzies wanted a chance but Hood thought St Hillare was the better option.

Think Noble might steady the ship but I'd like to see a coach come in from outside the club, with fresh ideas. Someone like Peter Gentle would definitely get the defence sorted out.

Sad to see Cummins go completely. He wasn't head coach material but he still lots to offer us as assistant or junior coach. Whoever does come in needs a good coaching team around them something everyone can agree Cummins DIDN'T have.

Think the sad thing is that despite all the problems If the players had been coached better they would have stayed up. Had more time been spent on the training pitch practising angles and lines of running they wouldn't have been so confused and made as many errors putting pressure on the weak defence. Yes the players have underperformed but it was more down to basic coaching than lack of effort or desire. Does anyone think that if we swapped Darrly Powell for Francis Cummings at the start of the season Castleford and Bulls would still be the same positions they are now?
[quote][p][bold]BirchLane-1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Glenn Morrison anybody?[/p][/quote]Jamie Langley as assistant as well.?Longer term how about someone like Steve Menzies once we become established again and the cash is there? He would be seriously respected an attract top quality players? Sorry, just thinking 10 years ahead, now I'm depressed again, we have to get past Keighley and Sweaty Sox first!!!![/p][/quote]Think it was a terrible decision by Hood NOT to let Menzies have a go at coaching till the end of season when McNamarra left. Menzies wanted a chance but Hood thought St Hillare was the better option. Think Noble might steady the ship but I'd like to see a coach come in from outside the club, with fresh ideas. Someone like Peter Gentle would definitely get the defence sorted out. Sad to see Cummins go completely. He wasn't head coach material but he still lots to offer us as assistant or junior coach. Whoever does come in needs a good coaching team around them something everyone can agree Cummins DIDN'T have. Think the sad thing is that despite all the problems If the players had been coached better they would have stayed up. Had more time been spent on the training pitch practising angles and lines of running they wouldn't have been so confused and made as many errors putting pressure on the weak defence. Yes the players have underperformed but it was more down to basic coaching than lack of effort or desire. Does anyone think that if we swapped Darrly Powell for Francis Cummings at the start of the season Castleford and Bulls would still be the same positions they are now? bradfordbronco
  • Score: 1

9:30pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bcfc1903 says...

Having seen the way Leigh played in the Challenge Cup then watched the Bulls cave in against WARRINGTON, this decision doesn't surprise me. There did seem to be a lack of conviction in the defensive plays. Good luck for the rest of the season, hope somehow whoever comes in can turn it around, if not I'm sure the Bulls will be straight back up in the Super League the season after next.
Having seen the way Leigh played in the Challenge Cup then watched the Bulls cave in against WARRINGTON, this decision doesn't surprise me. There did seem to be a lack of conviction in the defensive plays. Good luck for the rest of the season, hope somehow whoever comes in can turn it around, if not I'm sure the Bulls will be straight back up in the Super League the season after next. bcfc1903
  • Score: 5

9:36pm Mon 16 Jun 14

caledonia15 says...

Good luck to Cummins, he was an honest guy, too decent to address the problems with our under performing "players", hope they can look at their selves in the mirror tonight knowing they have helped some one onto the dole queue. Sadly this is a decision that should have come after the "Root and branch investigation" after the debacle at Wigan, perhaps if this action had of taken place then we may just may have scrapped together enough points to have had a chance of staying up. Lets see if there is a response to this on Friday, the question is now, who wants to take this shambles on?, its going to take a monumental effort to turn around this mess now.
Good luck to Cummins, he was an honest guy, too decent to address the problems with our under performing "players", hope they can look at their selves in the mirror tonight knowing they have helped some one onto the dole queue. Sadly this is a decision that should have come after the "Root and branch investigation" after the debacle at Wigan, perhaps if this action had of taken place then we may just may have scrapped together enough points to have had a chance of staying up. Lets see if there is a response to this on Friday, the question is now, who wants to take this shambles on?, its going to take a monumental effort to turn around this mess now. caledonia15
  • Score: 3

10:12pm Mon 16 Jun 14

hunsworthbull says...

Dont need Noble he inherited a good team, he has struggled since didn't do anything at Salford with better players, also he is too expensive we need someone like Glen Morrison
Dont need Noble he inherited a good team, he has struggled since didn't do anything at Salford with better players, also he is too expensive we need someone like Glen Morrison hunsworthbull
  • Score: -6

10:18pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Hullbull says...

BirchLane-1964 wrote:
Videoref wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
bullybullman wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.
A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be..
I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.
Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?
Best piece of business the bulls did at that time and still more of a statement of intent than anything we've done since. Offloading newlove for Dwyer, Nickle and Loughlin was the birth of the bulls success in super league. That coupled with class acts in Graham Bradley and Robbie Paul would be hard to replicate at the minute. Peter Fox will always be a northern legend with the success he brought. And he learnt to adapt from the style of play he used in the late 70's early 80's to a more exciting brand in the 90's when we just missed out on the title on points difference to the all conquering Wigan at their peak. I would have another Fox back in charge anytime. Wouldn't stand for messing about and a true motivator of even the most average player
Sorry to pull this one but Brian Smith did the deal to bring Dwyer, Nickle, Loughlin, Bradley and Donegher. Robbie was already with us having being signed by Peter Fox although fox kept him in the second team because he was a fragile 17 year old. It was smith who gave him a run out after he got rid of an ageing Derek Fox back in the centenery season. That was the catalyst for the bulls success. Peter Fox was a great stalwart of the club but Brian Smith made us a force and passed it on to his boot room,
[quote][p][bold]BirchLane-1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Videoref[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullybullman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.[/p][/quote]A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be.. I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?[/p][/quote]Best piece of business the bulls did at that time and still more of a statement of intent than anything we've done since. Offloading newlove for Dwyer, Nickle and Loughlin was the birth of the bulls success in super league. That coupled with class acts in Graham Bradley and Robbie Paul would be hard to replicate at the minute. Peter Fox will always be a northern legend with the success he brought. And he learnt to adapt from the style of play he used in the late 70's early 80's to a more exciting brand in the 90's when we just missed out on the title on points difference to the all conquering Wigan at their peak. I would have another Fox back in charge anytime. Wouldn't stand for messing about and a true motivator of even the most average player[/p][/quote]Sorry to pull this one but Brian Smith did the deal to bring Dwyer, Nickle, Loughlin, Bradley and Donegher. Robbie was already with us having being signed by Peter Fox although fox kept him in the second team because he was a fragile 17 year old. It was smith who gave him a run out after he got rid of an ageing Derek Fox back in the centenery season. That was the catalyst for the bulls success. Peter Fox was a great stalwart of the club but Brian Smith made us a force and passed it on to his boot room, Hullbull
  • Score: 12

10:33pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Videoref says...

Hullbull wrote:
BirchLane-1964 wrote:
Videoref wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
bullybullman wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.
A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be..
I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.
Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?
Best piece of business the bulls did at that time and still more of a statement of intent than anything we've done since. Offloading newlove for Dwyer, Nickle and Loughlin was the birth of the bulls success in super league. That coupled with class acts in Graham Bradley and Robbie Paul would be hard to replicate at the minute. Peter Fox will always be a northern legend with the success he brought. And he learnt to adapt from the style of play he used in the late 70's early 80's to a more exciting brand in the 90's when we just missed out on the title on points difference to the all conquering Wigan at their peak. I would have another Fox back in charge anytime. Wouldn't stand for messing about and a true motivator of even the most average player
Sorry to pull this one but Brian Smith did the deal to bring Dwyer, Nickle, Loughlin, Bradley and Donegher. Robbie was already with us having being signed by Peter Fox although fox kept him in the second team because he was a fragile 17 year old. It was smith who gave him a run out after he got rid of an ageing Derek Fox back in the centenery season. That was the catalyst for the bulls success. Peter Fox was a great stalwart of the club but Brian Smith made us a force and passed it on to his boot room,
Was going to point this out but you beat me to it! Love these people who pretend they know it all.
As someone who played under Peter Fox, I know exactly how Peter operated please don't try to teach your granny how to suck eggs
[quote][p][bold]Hullbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BirchLane-1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Videoref[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullybullman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.[/p][/quote]A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be.. I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?[/p][/quote]Best piece of business the bulls did at that time and still more of a statement of intent than anything we've done since. Offloading newlove for Dwyer, Nickle and Loughlin was the birth of the bulls success in super league. That coupled with class acts in Graham Bradley and Robbie Paul would be hard to replicate at the minute. Peter Fox will always be a northern legend with the success he brought. And he learnt to adapt from the style of play he used in the late 70's early 80's to a more exciting brand in the 90's when we just missed out on the title on points difference to the all conquering Wigan at their peak. I would have another Fox back in charge anytime. Wouldn't stand for messing about and a true motivator of even the most average player[/p][/quote]Sorry to pull this one but Brian Smith did the deal to bring Dwyer, Nickle, Loughlin, Bradley and Donegher. Robbie was already with us having being signed by Peter Fox although fox kept him in the second team because he was a fragile 17 year old. It was smith who gave him a run out after he got rid of an ageing Derek Fox back in the centenery season. That was the catalyst for the bulls success. Peter Fox was a great stalwart of the club but Brian Smith made us a force and passed it on to his boot room,[/p][/quote]Was going to point this out but you beat me to it! Love these people who pretend they know it all. As someone who played under Peter Fox, I know exactly how Peter operated please don't try to teach your granny how to suck eggs Videoref
  • Score: -1

10:35pm Mon 16 Jun 14

portugalbull says...

Videoref wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
bullybullman wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.
A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be..
I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.
Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?
And look what a great deal that turned out with the 3 class players that came the other way and put us on the road to successful years.
[quote][p][bold]Videoref[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullybullman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.[/p][/quote]A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be.. I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?[/p][/quote]And look what a great deal that turned out with the 3 class players that came the other way and put us on the road to successful years. portugalbull
  • Score: 1

10:50pm Mon 16 Jun 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

i am going to hazard a guess that we end up with Disco and Walker as player coaches for the rest of this season as we have not seen any sign of investment from the board to date and i doubt that will change.

this is Disco's last playing season so he could be Green's choice as Championship coach.

God I hope I am wrong
i am going to hazard a guess that we end up with Disco and Walker as player coaches for the rest of this season as we have not seen any sign of investment from the board to date and i doubt that will change. this is Disco's last playing season so he could be Green's choice as Championship coach. God I hope I am wrong fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 6

10:50pm Mon 16 Jun 14

bradfordbronco says...

Doesn't matter who we want it all depends on who actually applies. There should be loads queueing up for the job. for the following reasons

1. Its a no lose situation. Things can only get better!
2. The club will get relegated so all players contracts will be cancelled and the new coach can rebuild the entire squad.
3. Parachute payments mean they will actually have more money than they did this season.
4. The new coach can bring in their own backroom staff.
5. Chance to create a long term dynasty at a potential big club
6. They will have the rest of this season and the entire off season to prepare for next season

If I was a coach I'd be wanting this challenge.lets see who fancies it
Doesn't matter who we want it all depends on who actually applies. There should be loads queueing up for the job. for the following reasons 1. Its a no lose situation. Things can only get better! 2. The club will get relegated so all players contracts will be cancelled and the new coach can rebuild the entire squad. 3. Parachute payments mean they will actually have more money than they did this season. 4. The new coach can bring in their own backroom staff. 5. Chance to create a long term dynasty at a potential big club 6. They will have the rest of this season and the entire off season to prepare for next season If I was a coach I'd be wanting this challenge.lets see who fancies it bradfordbronco
  • Score: 2

11:03pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Videoref says...

portugalbull wrote:
Videoref wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
bullybullman wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.
A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be..
I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.
Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?
And look what a great deal that turned out with the 3 class players that came the other way and put us on the road to successful years.
Not by Peter Fox but by Brian Smith pal
[quote][p][bold]portugalbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Videoref[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullybullman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.[/p][/quote]A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be.. I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?[/p][/quote]And look what a great deal that turned out with the 3 class players that came the other way and put us on the road to successful years.[/p][/quote]Not by Peter Fox but by Brian Smith pal Videoref
  • Score: -1

11:08pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Videoref says...

fedupwiththeBS wrote:
i am going to hazard a guess that we end up with Disco and Walker as player coaches for the rest of this season as we have not seen any sign of investment from the board to date and i doubt that will change.

this is Disco's last playing season so he could be Green's choice as Championship coach.

God I hope I am wrong
God so do I!
[quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: i am going to hazard a guess that we end up with Disco and Walker as player coaches for the rest of this season as we have not seen any sign of investment from the board to date and i doubt that will change. this is Disco's last playing season so he could be Green's choice as Championship coach. God I hope I am wrong[/p][/quote]God so do I! Videoref
  • Score: 2

11:12pm Mon 16 Jun 14

raisemeup says...

portugalbull wrote:
Videoref wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
bullybullman wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.
A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be..
I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.
Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?
And look what a great deal that turned out with the 3 class players that came the other way and put us on the road to successful years.
I think it was Brian Smith who sold Paul Newlove..so I looked it up to find out if I was correct.
He signed for a world record fee worth in the region of £500k via £250k cash and the 3 players. He moved in 1995, the year Brian Smith became our coach. It was likely that Peter and Martin (Shuttleworth) were his agents, but not sure

I believe Paul wanted to leave the club after Peter left, as Peter was very close to Paul, and was his mentor.
[quote][p][bold]portugalbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Videoref[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullybullman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.[/p][/quote]A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be.. I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?[/p][/quote]And look what a great deal that turned out with the 3 class players that came the other way and put us on the road to successful years.[/p][/quote]I think it was Brian Smith who sold Paul Newlove..so I looked it up to find out if I was correct. He signed for a world record fee worth in the region of £500k via £250k cash and the 3 players. He moved in 1995, the year Brian Smith became our coach. It was likely that Peter and Martin (Shuttleworth) were his agents, but not sure I believe Paul wanted to leave the club after Peter left, as Peter was very close to Paul, and was his mentor. raisemeup
  • Score: 0

11:19pm Mon 16 Jun 14

hollymae says...

Not a job for Noble in my opinion. Would go for John Kear or Karl Harrison.....the latter being Nobles defensive coach in the hey days
Not a job for Noble in my opinion. Would go for John Kear or Karl Harrison.....the latter being Nobles defensive coach in the hey days hollymae
  • Score: 4

11:26pm Mon 16 Jun 14

raisemeup says...

The Fat Lady Sings wrote:
flashdonut wrote:
I wish Franny all the best in the future. A credit to himself, the club and the game. Dealt nothing but rubbish yet plodded admirably. Doesn't deserve this in the slightest.
The club is a business. No room for sentiment. Mr Cummins completely out of his depth. The team was not showing any signs of improvement. He should have been sacked weeks ago, now I fear it is too late for a "new"coach to save us. Not too happy about brother-in-law Matt being temporary coach, Another poor Cummins decision to hand contract extensions to his old Leeds buddies. Nepotism is associated with decline. The big worry now is that is the rot is not going to stop here. We are ill-prepared for Championship rugby and could be in Championship 1 before we know it. Mr Greene to pocket the parachute payment and say goodbye. It all started when a certain Mr Hood thought that a certain Mr MacNamara was the "bees-knees"because a certain Mr Pryce had told him so so he instructed a cetatin Mr Davies to stab a certain Mr Noble in the back, get money from Wigan for his contract plus another 450K for a certain Mr Fielden. The rest is history but somehow Mr Hood was absolved of any blame because we had many, many apologists on this site saying he was the way forward, the man with financial prudence. Never has so much disinformation been spouted and eagerly consumed by the gullible. It's a truism in like - you get what you deserve.
Spot on FLS.
[quote][p][bold]The Fat Lady Sings[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flashdonut[/bold] wrote: I wish Franny all the best in the future. A credit to himself, the club and the game. Dealt nothing but rubbish yet plodded admirably. Doesn't deserve this in the slightest.[/p][/quote]The club is a business. No room for sentiment. Mr Cummins completely out of his depth. The team was not showing any signs of improvement. He should have been sacked weeks ago, now I fear it is too late for a "new"coach to save us. Not too happy about brother-in-law Matt being temporary coach, Another poor Cummins decision to hand contract extensions to his old Leeds buddies. Nepotism is associated with decline. The big worry now is that is the rot is not going to stop here. We are ill-prepared for Championship rugby and could be in Championship 1 before we know it. Mr Greene to pocket the parachute payment and say goodbye. It all started when a certain Mr Hood thought that a certain Mr MacNamara was the "bees-knees"because a certain Mr Pryce had told him so so he instructed a cetatin Mr Davies to stab a certain Mr Noble in the back, get money from Wigan for his contract plus another 450K for a certain Mr Fielden. The rest is history but somehow Mr Hood was absolved of any blame because we had many, many apologists on this site saying he was the way forward, the man with financial prudence. Never has so much disinformation been spouted and eagerly consumed by the gullible. It's a truism in like - you get what you deserve.[/p][/quote]Spot on FLS. raisemeup
  • Score: 1

12:02am Tue 17 Jun 14

portugalbull says...

Have genuine sympathy for FC but warned 3months ago that if he didn't get rid of St Hilaire it would cost him his job. Also suggested he needed experienced assistance but that never came.
What now ? Nobby available and good coach despite some saying done nothing since leaving. Only saved Wigan and took them to within 80minutes of grand final which their new coach did with Nobby's team. Meanwhile took Crusaders to playoffs from nowhere. Salford had impatient owner so can't say either way but doubt they would have lost last 7 before us had he stayed.
Morrison not yet proved himself at Dewsbury.
Karl Harrison under contract.
Matty Elliot available but in Australia.
Jimmy Lowes involved in RU. Don't know when season ends.
Very few others available as good coaches under contract and will cost to bring in. Personally I would like Brian Mac but Leeds might object, so its got to be Nobby but hope he brings in former player as assistant
Have genuine sympathy for FC but warned 3months ago that if he didn't get rid of St Hilaire it would cost him his job. Also suggested he needed experienced assistance but that never came. What now ? Nobby available and good coach despite some saying done nothing since leaving. Only saved Wigan and took them to within 80minutes of grand final which their new coach did with Nobby's team. Meanwhile took Crusaders to playoffs from nowhere. Salford had impatient owner so can't say either way but doubt they would have lost last 7 before us had he stayed. Morrison not yet proved himself at Dewsbury. Karl Harrison under contract. Matty Elliot available but in Australia. Jimmy Lowes involved in RU. Don't know when season ends. Very few others available as good coaches under contract and will cost to bring in. Personally I would like Brian Mac but Leeds might object, so its got to be Nobby but hope he brings in former player as assistant portugalbull
  • Score: 3

6:32am Tue 17 Jun 14

BirchLane-1964 says...

Hullbull wrote:
BirchLane-1964 wrote:
Videoref wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
bullybullman wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.
A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be..
I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.
Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?
Best piece of business the bulls did at that time and still more of a statement of intent than anything we've done since. Offloading newlove for Dwyer, Nickle and Loughlin was the birth of the bulls success in super league. That coupled with class acts in Graham Bradley and Robbie Paul would be hard to replicate at the minute. Peter Fox will always be a northern legend with the success he brought. And he learnt to adapt from the style of play he used in the late 70's early 80's to a more exciting brand in the 90's when we just missed out on the title on points difference to the all conquering Wigan at their peak. I would have another Fox back in charge anytime. Wouldn't stand for messing about and a true motivator of even the most average player
Sorry to pull this one but Brian Smith did the deal to bring Dwyer, Nickle, Loughlin, Bradley and Donegher. Robbie was already with us having being signed by Peter Fox although fox kept him in the second team because he was a fragile 17 year old. It was smith who gave him a run out after he got rid of an ageing Derek Fox back in the centenery season. That was the catalyst for the bulls success. Peter Fox was a great stalwart of the club but Brian Smith made us a force and passed it on to his boot room,
Yes you're absolutely correct,smith built the team, totally blitzed it keeping just Robbie, Brian Mac, karl fairbank and Jon Hamer. Fox was merely newloves agent.
[quote][p][bold]Hullbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BirchLane-1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Videoref[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullybullman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.[/p][/quote]A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be.. I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?[/p][/quote]Best piece of business the bulls did at that time and still more of a statement of intent than anything we've done since. Offloading newlove for Dwyer, Nickle and Loughlin was the birth of the bulls success in super league. That coupled with class acts in Graham Bradley and Robbie Paul would be hard to replicate at the minute. Peter Fox will always be a northern legend with the success he brought. And he learnt to adapt from the style of play he used in the late 70's early 80's to a more exciting brand in the 90's when we just missed out on the title on points difference to the all conquering Wigan at their peak. I would have another Fox back in charge anytime. Wouldn't stand for messing about and a true motivator of even the most average player[/p][/quote]Sorry to pull this one but Brian Smith did the deal to bring Dwyer, Nickle, Loughlin, Bradley and Donegher. Robbie was already with us having being signed by Peter Fox although fox kept him in the second team because he was a fragile 17 year old. It was smith who gave him a run out after he got rid of an ageing Derek Fox back in the centenery season. That was the catalyst for the bulls success. Peter Fox was a great stalwart of the club but Brian Smith made us a force and passed it on to his boot room,[/p][/quote]Yes you're absolutely correct,smith built the team, totally blitzed it keeping just Robbie, Brian Mac, karl fairbank and Jon Hamer. Fox was merely newloves agent. BirchLane-1964
  • Score: 1

6:32am Tue 17 Jun 14

BirchLane-1964 says...

Hullbull wrote:
BirchLane-1964 wrote:
Videoref wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
bullybullman wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.
A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be..
I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.
Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?
Best piece of business the bulls did at that time and still more of a statement of intent than anything we've done since. Offloading newlove for Dwyer, Nickle and Loughlin was the birth of the bulls success in super league. That coupled with class acts in Graham Bradley and Robbie Paul would be hard to replicate at the minute. Peter Fox will always be a northern legend with the success he brought. And he learnt to adapt from the style of play he used in the late 70's early 80's to a more exciting brand in the 90's when we just missed out on the title on points difference to the all conquering Wigan at their peak. I would have another Fox back in charge anytime. Wouldn't stand for messing about and a true motivator of even the most average player
Sorry to pull this one but Brian Smith did the deal to bring Dwyer, Nickle, Loughlin, Bradley and Donegher. Robbie was already with us having being signed by Peter Fox although fox kept him in the second team because he was a fragile 17 year old. It was smith who gave him a run out after he got rid of an ageing Derek Fox back in the centenery season. That was the catalyst for the bulls success. Peter Fox was a great stalwart of the club but Brian Smith made us a force and passed it on to his boot room,
Yes you're absolutely correct,smith built the team, totally blitzed it keeping just Robbie, Brian Mac, karl fairbank and Jon Hamer. Fox was merely newloves agent.
[quote][p][bold]Hullbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BirchLane-1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Videoref[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullybullman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.[/p][/quote]A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be.. I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?[/p][/quote]Best piece of business the bulls did at that time and still more of a statement of intent than anything we've done since. Offloading newlove for Dwyer, Nickle and Loughlin was the birth of the bulls success in super league. That coupled with class acts in Graham Bradley and Robbie Paul would be hard to replicate at the minute. Peter Fox will always be a northern legend with the success he brought. And he learnt to adapt from the style of play he used in the late 70's early 80's to a more exciting brand in the 90's when we just missed out on the title on points difference to the all conquering Wigan at their peak. I would have another Fox back in charge anytime. Wouldn't stand for messing about and a true motivator of even the most average player[/p][/quote]Sorry to pull this one but Brian Smith did the deal to bring Dwyer, Nickle, Loughlin, Bradley and Donegher. Robbie was already with us having being signed by Peter Fox although fox kept him in the second team because he was a fragile 17 year old. It was smith who gave him a run out after he got rid of an ageing Derek Fox back in the centenery season. That was the catalyst for the bulls success. Peter Fox was a great stalwart of the club but Brian Smith made us a force and passed it on to his boot room,[/p][/quote]Yes you're absolutely correct,smith built the team, totally blitzed it keeping just Robbie, Brian Mac, karl fairbank and Jon Hamer. Fox was merely newloves agent. BirchLane-1964
  • Score: 0

7:06am Tue 17 Jun 14

Videoref says...

BirchLane-1964 wrote:
Hullbull wrote:
BirchLane-1964 wrote:
Videoref wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
bullybullman wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.
A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be..
I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.
Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?
Best piece of business the bulls did at that time and still more of a statement of intent than anything we've done since. Offloading newlove for Dwyer, Nickle and Loughlin was the birth of the bulls success in super league. That coupled with class acts in Graham Bradley and Robbie Paul would be hard to replicate at the minute. Peter Fox will always be a northern legend with the success he brought. And he learnt to adapt from the style of play he used in the late 70's early 80's to a more exciting brand in the 90's when we just missed out on the title on points difference to the all conquering Wigan at their peak. I would have another Fox back in charge anytime. Wouldn't stand for messing about and a true motivator of even the most average player
Sorry to pull this one but Brian Smith did the deal to bring Dwyer, Nickle, Loughlin, Bradley and Donegher. Robbie was already with us having being signed by Peter Fox although fox kept him in the second team because he was a fragile 17 year old. It was smith who gave him a run out after he got rid of an ageing Derek Fox back in the centenery season. That was the catalyst for the bulls success. Peter Fox was a great stalwart of the club but Brian Smith made us a force and passed it on to his boot room,
Yes you're absolutely correct,smith built the team, totally blitzed it keeping just Robbie, Brian Mac, karl fairbank and Jon Hamer. Fox was merely newloves agent.
And his godfather
[quote][p][bold]BirchLane-1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hullbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BirchLane-1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Videoref[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullybullman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.[/p][/quote]A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be.. I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?[/p][/quote]Best piece of business the bulls did at that time and still more of a statement of intent than anything we've done since. Offloading newlove for Dwyer, Nickle and Loughlin was the birth of the bulls success in super league. That coupled with class acts in Graham Bradley and Robbie Paul would be hard to replicate at the minute. Peter Fox will always be a northern legend with the success he brought. And he learnt to adapt from the style of play he used in the late 70's early 80's to a more exciting brand in the 90's when we just missed out on the title on points difference to the all conquering Wigan at their peak. I would have another Fox back in charge anytime. Wouldn't stand for messing about and a true motivator of even the most average player[/p][/quote]Sorry to pull this one but Brian Smith did the deal to bring Dwyer, Nickle, Loughlin, Bradley and Donegher. Robbie was already with us having being signed by Peter Fox although fox kept him in the second team because he was a fragile 17 year old. It was smith who gave him a run out after he got rid of an ageing Derek Fox back in the centenery season. That was the catalyst for the bulls success. Peter Fox was a great stalwart of the club but Brian Smith made us a force and passed it on to his boot room,[/p][/quote]Yes you're absolutely correct,smith built the team, totally blitzed it keeping just Robbie, Brian Mac, karl fairbank and Jon Hamer. Fox was merely newloves agent.[/p][/quote]And his godfather Videoref
  • Score: 1

7:32am Tue 17 Jun 14

Sense99 says...

Right decision far too late. FC might have been loyal and nice guy, but was clearly out of his depth.

I can't believe it has taken the board this long to realise he was not the right man for the job - all the fans have seen it for months - they have left it too late for any new coach to join and make a difference. So they are as much to blame for the situation as FC and the players.

Mind you, we are that close to the end of the season at least Green has an excuse why he won't put his hand in his pocket for a new coach.
Right decision far too late. FC might have been loyal and nice guy, but was clearly out of his depth. I can't believe it has taken the board this long to realise he was not the right man for the job - all the fans have seen it for months - they have left it too late for any new coach to join and make a difference. So they are as much to blame for the situation as FC and the players. Mind you, we are that close to the end of the season at least Green has an excuse why he won't put his hand in his pocket for a new coach. Sense99
  • Score: 2

7:35am Tue 17 Jun 14

BirchLane-1964 says...

Videoref wrote:
BirchLane-1964 wrote:
Hullbull wrote:
BirchLane-1964 wrote:
Videoref wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
bullybullman wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.
A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be..
I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.
Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?
Best piece of business the bulls did at that time and still more of a statement of intent than anything we've done since. Offloading newlove for Dwyer, Nickle and Loughlin was the birth of the bulls success in super league. That coupled with class acts in Graham Bradley and Robbie Paul would be hard to replicate at the minute. Peter Fox will always be a northern legend with the success he brought. And he learnt to adapt from the style of play he used in the late 70's early 80's to a more exciting brand in the 90's when we just missed out on the title on points difference to the all conquering Wigan at their peak. I would have another Fox back in charge anytime. Wouldn't stand for messing about and a true motivator of even the most average player
Sorry to pull this one but Brian Smith did the deal to bring Dwyer, Nickle, Loughlin, Bradley and Donegher. Robbie was already with us having being signed by Peter Fox although fox kept him in the second team because he was a fragile 17 year old. It was smith who gave him a run out after he got rid of an ageing Derek Fox back in the centenery season. That was the catalyst for the bulls success. Peter Fox was a great stalwart of the club but Brian Smith made us a force and passed it on to his boot room,
Yes you're absolutely correct,smith built the team, totally blitzed it keeping just Robbie, Brian Mac, karl fairbank and Jon Hamer. Fox was merely newloves agent.
And his godfather
Haha yeah good point also!
[quote][p][bold]Videoref[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BirchLane-1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hullbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BirchLane-1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Videoref[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullybullman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Because he is one of the main culprits that got us to where we are now ! however he is probably the best option for us.[/p][/quote]A staggering amount of wrong thinking BB...I heard this rubbish from a source who was mostly responsible for the lead up to the mess we are in> He abdicated responsibility for his accountability for all the ills we were beset with. My response is exactly what I had heard Peter Fox say well before the Bulls, when he said that if the best Player in the world became available any good coach would want him. It is then up to the finance managers to buy him or not as the case might be.. I would suggest that B Noble, Matthew Elliot, and of course Brian Smith before them, thought that this was the province of a good coach.[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Peter Fox who became an agent after he left Bradford and subsequently took the Bradford world class center Paul Newlove to St Hellens?[/p][/quote]Best piece of business the bulls did at that time and still more of a statement of intent than anything we've done since. Offloading newlove for Dwyer, Nickle and Loughlin was the birth of the bulls success in super league. That coupled with class acts in Graham Bradley and Robbie Paul would be hard to replicate at the minute. Peter Fox will always be a northern legend with the success he brought. And he learnt to adapt from the style of play he used in the late 70's early 80's to a more exciting brand in the 90's when we just missed out on the title on points difference to the all conquering Wigan at their peak. I would have another Fox back in charge anytime. Wouldn't stand for messing about and a true motivator of even the most average player[/p][/quote]Sorry to pull this one but Brian Smith did the deal to bring Dwyer, Nickle, Loughlin, Bradley and Donegher. Robbie was already with us having being signed by Peter Fox although fox kept him in the second team because he was a fragile 17 year old. It was smith who gave him a run out after he got rid of an ageing Derek Fox back in the centenery season. That was the catalyst for the bulls success. Peter Fox was a great stalwart of the club but Brian Smith made us a force and passed it on to his boot room,[/p][/quote]Yes you're absolutely correct,smith built the team, totally blitzed it keeping just Robbie, Brian Mac, karl fairbank and Jon Hamer. Fox was merely newloves agent.[/p][/quote]And his godfather[/p][/quote]Haha yeah good point also! BirchLane-1964
  • Score: 1

12:20pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Loyalbull1981 says...

Paul Rowley would be a good shout but would he leave a upcoming team for one on its way down. Interest comments from J Fsoters column end of last week ''You can’t really play it down and say ‘if we lose it’s not the end of the season’, but I’m a realist and I’d be lieing if I didn’t say how big it is.Salford are not in a great run of form either''
So 1.do we blame the players for not realising the potential of the game and playng better
2. did salford just wake up and will go on a winning run or
3. is it the coaches fault for not giving the lads the right game plan to take chase out of the game or
4. did the lads just ignore the game plan or
5.is it all down to defensive coach as our defence is appauling and are attack is ok.
6. FCpicking wrong players to play/peop out of position- Gaskell has been awful but still picked ahead of Foster.
7. other please specify
Answers on a postcard please
Paul Rowley would be a good shout but would he leave a upcoming team for one on its way down. Interest comments from J Fsoters column end of last week ''You can’t really play it down and say ‘if we lose it’s not the end of the season’, but I’m a realist and I’d be lieing if I didn’t say how big it is.Salford are not in a great run of form either'' So 1.do we blame the players for not realising the potential of the game and playng better 2. did salford just wake up and will go on a winning run or 3. is it the coaches fault for not giving the lads the right game plan to take chase out of the game or 4. did the lads just ignore the game plan or 5.is it all down to defensive coach as our defence is appauling and are attack is ok. 6. FCpicking wrong players to play/peop out of position- Gaskell has been awful but still picked ahead of Foster. 7. other please specify Answers on a postcard please Loyalbull1981
  • Score: 0

3:26pm Tue 17 Jun 14

raisemeup says...

Bullinlancs79 wrote:
olijack09 wrote:
Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none.

Do it now Mr Greene
He 'saved' Wigan with lennigans cash. He ran the crusaders with the RFL's money. We have NO money . He is a good coach with cash to spend.... We have NO cash . No doubt he will come back till the end of the season and then bolt when another owner offers him a bigger salary..... Like last time
So you advocate that a coach signs the best players, but doesn't pay them for being better players. He signs new players by offering them the worst deal, not the best...and he builds a top flight squad on a shoe string. If you know of such a coach every team in the UK, Australia, NZ would want him to be the head coach for their team? ( at a salary of £12-15K at most, plus a seat in the executive loo)
Are you for real????
[quote][p][bold]Bullinlancs79[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]olijack09[/bold] wrote: Did nothing since leaving Bradford?? Saving Wigan from certain relegation, building foundations, taking Crusaders from nothing to play offs. The man is a Bradfordion, a freeman of Bradford. He would come for next to nothing, in fact he offered to help in 2011 for nothing. He is a motivator of men and no one knows the inner workings of the Bulls more intimately.His style is based on defence and tha'ts been non existant! Financial issues were not his fault, a cast of dozens of people are to blame for that. Beggers can not be choosers. Get him back, get the passion and fight back, get the belief and desire instilled. Yes relegation is seemingly a fact, yet, its an opportunity to come back better then before. Noble may well create a buzz amongtt new investers and his contacts in the game is still second to none. Do it now Mr Greene[/p][/quote]He 'saved' Wigan with lennigans cash. He ran the crusaders with the RFL's money. We have NO money . He is a good coach with cash to spend.... We have NO cash . No doubt he will come back till the end of the season and then bolt when another owner offers him a bigger salary..... Like last time[/p][/quote]So you advocate that a coach signs the best players, but doesn't pay them for being better players. He signs new players by offering them the worst deal, not the best...and he builds a top flight squad on a shoe string. If you know of such a coach every team in the UK, Australia, NZ would want him to be the head coach for their team? ( at a salary of £12-15K at most, plus a seat in the executive loo) Are you for real???? raisemeup
  • Score: 0

9:17pm Tue 17 Jun 14

portugalbull says...

Loyalbull1981 wrote:
Paul Rowley would be a good shout but would he leave a upcoming team for one on its way down. Interest comments from J Fsoters column end of last week ''You can’t really play it down and say ‘if we lose it’s not the end of the season’, but I’m a realist and I’d be lieing if I didn’t say how big it is.Salford are not in a great run of form either''
So 1.do we blame the players for not realising the potential of the game and playng better
2. did salford just wake up and will go on a winning run or
3. is it the coaches fault for not giving the lads the right game plan to take chase out of the game or
4. did the lads just ignore the game plan or
5.is it all down to defensive coach as our defence is appauling and are attack is ok.
6. FCpicking wrong players to play/peop out of position- Gaskell has been awful but still picked ahead of Foster.
7. other please specify
Answers on a postcard please
Who cares! Fanny's gone He did not bring out the best in the players.
We want to move on, new coach to bring pride and enthusiasm back into the team.
At the beginning of the season we thought we had a good squad and addmitedly 3left leaving us with a smaller unit, but that has been offset by some decent loan players. So a good coach should be able to do that.
If there's no pressure then maybe an escape, but if houdeni's not available then set up for next year to regain our SL status.
I noted some coaches available yesterday and most have been discussed above. Now I hope that the board chose wisely and whomever they choose they bring them in quickly, meanwhile good luck to Matt Diskin and the team on friday. CoyB's
[quote][p][bold]Loyalbull1981[/bold] wrote: Paul Rowley would be a good shout but would he leave a upcoming team for one on its way down. Interest comments from J Fsoters column end of last week ''You can’t really play it down and say ‘if we lose it’s not the end of the season’, but I’m a realist and I’d be lieing if I didn’t say how big it is.Salford are not in a great run of form either'' So 1.do we blame the players for not realising the potential of the game and playng better 2. did salford just wake up and will go on a winning run or 3. is it the coaches fault for not giving the lads the right game plan to take chase out of the game or 4. did the lads just ignore the game plan or 5.is it all down to defensive coach as our defence is appauling and are attack is ok. 6. FCpicking wrong players to play/peop out of position- Gaskell has been awful but still picked ahead of Foster. 7. other please specify Answers on a postcard please[/p][/quote]Who cares! Fanny's gone He did not bring out the best in the players. We want to move on, new coach to bring pride and enthusiasm back into the team. At the beginning of the season we thought we had a good squad and addmitedly 3left leaving us with a smaller unit, but that has been offset by some decent loan players. So a good coach should be able to do that. If there's no pressure then maybe an escape, but if houdeni's not available then set up for next year to regain our SL status. I noted some coaches available yesterday and most have been discussed above. Now I hope that the board chose wisely and whomever they choose they bring them in quickly, meanwhile good luck to Matt Diskin and the team on friday. CoyB's portugalbull
  • Score: 0

9:22pm Tue 17 Jun 14

portugalbull says...

Sorry post above refers to my previous post which was 2minutes into today, not yesterday as stated.
Sorry post above refers to my previous post which was 2minutes into today, not yesterday as stated. portugalbull
  • Score: 0

5:31pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Mixter says...

gavskidoodle wrote:
Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.
Come Again???
Its to be hoped nobbys coaching is better than your posting.
[quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: Wots wrong with nobby coming bk? Did he not give uz r best 5/6 yrs?? Why such a negative response in hearing he cud b on his way bk. Yes,maybe too l8 for this yr, but will build a good side for nxt. And possibly the nxt few yrs. If it is nobby,good luck to him + welcome bk.[/p][/quote]Come Again??? Its to be hoped nobbys coaching is better than your posting. Mixter
  • Score: 0

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