Julian Rhodes goes on the attack for 2014-15 Bradford City season

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Joint-chairman Julian Rhodes thinks there has to be more of an emphasis on attacking play by City Joint-chairman Julian Rhodes thinks there has to be more of an emphasis on attacking play by City

Julian Rhodes predicts a more attack-minded City next season – as he warned that more established names could be leaving.

Phil Parkinson’s budget will be £500,000 down on the first year back in League One but joint-chairman Rhodes is still confident of building on their 11th-place finish.

A major revamp is expected this summer with so many contracts up. Gary Jones and Garry Thompson have already gone and there are plenty of others still under discussion.

Rhodes said: “What is important is that we go into next season having learned from this one and I think we have.

“We’re currently having lots of conversations with Phil about what he needs.

“It’s always difficult because it’s going to involve players leaving who have become key characters with supporters and we need to move on. But that has to happen if you want to progress.

“I think there has to be more of an emphasis on attacking play and Phil has acknowledged this.

“Look at some of the teams in the play-offs. Rotherham and Peterborough have conceded more goals than us but they’ve scored a lot more.

“They’re a bit more gung ho and have probably had better players going forward than we have. Again that’s something we need to look at.”

Any change in philosophy could impact on the club’s stance with their out-of-contract defenders. Player of the year Stephen Darby, Rory McArdle and James Meredith are all in talks.

Rhodes said: “It’s not just football but also from a monetary perspective. It might be that we decide we want to spend more money in certain areas than we have been doing.

“The success in the past couple of years has probably been built on a solid defensive line. Plus we had a fantastic strike force, certainly in League Two.

“We still have one of the key figures from that in James Hanson. We also still have the main defender in Andrew Davies.

“At the other end, Aaron Mclean had some very big boots to fill and it’s fair to say he took a while to get going. But he finished well and we’re all excited about what he can achieve next season.

“There will be some players who leave, even though we will make them offers, because they perhaps can earn more money elsewhere.

“We have to cut ties and say thank you very much for two great seasons and move on.”

No signings are expected straight away until the negotiations with current players are done – but Rhodes is looking ahead with optimism.

“I’m excited about next season because I’ve seen enough to know that we can do better,” he said.

“The budget will be smaller. That’s because last year we set it £1million over what we could reasonably afford, knowing we had Nahki Wells to sell.

“We don’t have that now but the budget will still be £500,000 more than what we can reasonably afford and we have irons in the fire to cover that.”

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7:45am Tue 13 May 14

silverbantam says...

Where has all the money gone from selling Nahki Wells and the cup run last season ?
Where has all the money gone from selling Nahki Wells and the cup run last season ? silverbantam
  • Score: -20

7:53am Tue 13 May 14

macca1969 says...

Irons in the fire for that? Well we only have one saleable assest unless McLean comes good. So that must mean mid table at christmas and its adios James Hanson
Irons in the fire for that? Well we only have one saleable assest unless McLean comes good. So that must mean mid table at christmas and its adios James Hanson macca1969
  • Score: -12

7:54am Tue 13 May 14

Plastic Bantam says...

silverbantam wrote:
Where has all the money gone from selling Nahki Wells and the cup run last season ?
You keep asking this question. It has been explained numerous times where the money has gone. Don't you listen?!?!
[quote][p][bold]silverbantam[/bold] wrote: Where has all the money gone from selling Nahki Wells and the cup run last season ?[/p][/quote]You keep asking this question. It has been explained numerous times where the money has gone. Don't you listen?!?! Plastic Bantam
  • Score: 25

7:58am Tue 13 May 14

spearmint wino says...

So in other words be prepared to see Darby and Meradith both leave because we were shorted sighted and didn't get them signed up on new contracts therefore they can both go for free. Compare that with the Wells situation and it just doesn't add up for me.
So in other words be prepared to see Darby and Meradith both leave because we were shorted sighted and didn't get them signed up on new contracts therefore they can both go for free. Compare that with the Wells situation and it just doesn't add up for me. spearmint wino
  • Score: -15

8:20am Tue 13 May 14

spleen ventor says...

silverbantam wrote:
Where has all the money gone from selling Nahki Wells and the cup run last season ?
Read the report, it say's we're spending £500'000 less than last years budget, not what we actually spent.
The budget is still likely to be very competetive for the league compared to what other clubs have to spend.
[quote][p][bold]silverbantam[/bold] wrote: Where has all the money gone from selling Nahki Wells and the cup run last season ?[/p][/quote]Read the report, it say's we're spending £500'000 less than last years budget, not what we actually spent. The budget is still likely to be very competetive for the league compared to what other clubs have to spend. spleen ventor
  • Score: 18

8:29am Tue 13 May 14

eccleshilllad says...

It does sound a bit iffy about more established players leaving i can understand the likes of yeates and de vita being let go but not the likes of darby or meridith that would be a major mistake in my mind .Although Davies is brilliant we only usually get half a season out of him.I think the player of the year awards should have shown the club who the main defender is .
It does sound a bit iffy about more established players leaving i can understand the likes of yeates and de vita being let go but not the likes of darby or meridith that would be a major mistake in my mind .Although Davies is brilliant we only usually get half a season out of him.I think the player of the year awards should have shown the club who the main defender is . eccleshilllad
  • Score: 8

8:48am Tue 13 May 14

Plastic Bantam says...

All he is saying is we have to cut our cloth accordingly. If other clubs offer more than we can then that's life. As long as the club offers cheap season tickets then this is the way it's going to be. They're obviously not confident that 10,000 people would be willing to pay £320+ for a ticket. So have decided numbers through the gate is better than numbers in the bank.
All he is saying is we have to cut our cloth accordingly. If other clubs offer more than we can then that's life. As long as the club offers cheap season tickets then this is the way it's going to be. They're obviously not confident that 10,000 people would be willing to pay £320+ for a ticket. So have decided numbers through the gate is better than numbers in the bank. Plastic Bantam
  • Score: 15

8:51am Tue 13 May 14

minkiebantam says...

The loss of Darby and Meredith would be a massive blow to us. Yes we need to be more attack minded, but not at the exspense of the back four we have Now!?
Strengthen midfield and a new keeper and just pray Mclean comes good up front!
CTID.
The loss of Darby and Meredith would be a massive blow to us. Yes we need to be more attack minded, but not at the exspense of the back four we have Now!? Strengthen midfield and a new keeper and just pray Mclean comes good up front! CTID. minkiebantam
  • Score: 12

8:56am Tue 13 May 14

Freddy says...

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It would appear to be what I have already forecasted. Further consolidation for next Season. Then a push for promotion the Season after next.
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* It would appear to be what I have already forecasted. Further consolidation for next Season. Then a push for promotion the Season after next. * Freddy
  • Score: -1

9:05am Tue 13 May 14

whisky1 says...

Plastic Bantam wrote:
All he is saying is we have to cut our cloth accordingly. If other clubs offer more than we can then that's life. As long as the club offers cheap season tickets then this is the way it's going to be. They're obviously not confident that 10,000 people would be willing to pay £320+ for a ticket. So have decided numbers through the gate is better than numbers in the bank.
Theres no point trying to reason with folk..the great unwashed will moan and chelp and believe that they have trousered the money from Nakhi whatever happens. They will make offers that they think they can afford end of
[quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: All he is saying is we have to cut our cloth accordingly. If other clubs offer more than we can then that's life. As long as the club offers cheap season tickets then this is the way it's going to be. They're obviously not confident that 10,000 people would be willing to pay £320+ for a ticket. So have decided numbers through the gate is better than numbers in the bank.[/p][/quote]Theres no point trying to reason with folk..the great unwashed will moan and chelp and believe that they have trousered the money from Nakhi whatever happens. They will make offers that they think they can afford end of whisky1
  • Score: 6

9:11am Tue 13 May 14

notpoliticallycorrect says...

It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day.

To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back.

I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on.

Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza.

You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.
It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really. notpoliticallycorrect
  • Score: 11

9:29am Tue 13 May 14

Farsley Bantam says...

notpoliticallycorrec
t
wrote:
It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.
How much is Darby on and how do you know this?
[quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.[/p][/quote]How much is Darby on and how do you know this? Farsley Bantam
  • Score: -2

9:33am Tue 13 May 14

Olivermac says...

notpoliticallycorrec
t
wrote:
It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day.

To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back.

I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on.

Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza.

You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.
Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.
[quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.[/p][/quote]Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted. Olivermac
  • Score: -6

9:46am Tue 13 May 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Olivermac wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec t wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.
Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.
Rotherham have a sugar daddy owner who has pumped millions into the club so thats not really a fair comparison. I imagine their player budget is/was significantly higher than ours.
But I agree with our fan base we should be able to easily compete financially with most of the clubs in this league.
[quote][p][bold]Olivermac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.[/p][/quote]Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.[/p][/quote]Rotherham have a sugar daddy owner who has pumped millions into the club so thats not really a fair comparison. I imagine their player budget is/was significantly higher than ours. But I agree with our fan base we should be able to easily compete financially with most of the clubs in this league. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 8

9:50am Tue 13 May 14

allannicho says...

Hold onto your has I think its going to be a Bumpy ride!
Hold onto your has I think its going to be a Bumpy ride! allannicho
  • Score: -5

9:53am Tue 13 May 14

Farsley Bantam says...

allannicho wrote:
Hold onto your has I think its going to be a Bumpy ride!
I love it how you've decide this before any signings have been announced and a ball has even been kicked.
[quote][p][bold]allannicho[/bold] wrote: Hold onto your has I think its going to be a Bumpy ride![/p][/quote]I love it how you've decide this before any signings have been announced and a ball has even been kicked. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 11

10:03am Tue 13 May 14

whisky1 says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
Olivermac wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec t wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.
Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.
Rotherham have a sugar daddy owner who has pumped millions into the club so thats not really a fair comparison. I imagine their player budget is/was significantly higher than ours.
But I agree with our fan base we should be able to easily compete financially with most of the clubs in this league.
Because including the stadium the guy has put £30 million into the club--we cant compete with that and anyway id rather get there on merit rather than have a vanity project by some rich git
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Olivermac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.[/p][/quote]Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.[/p][/quote]Rotherham have a sugar daddy owner who has pumped millions into the club so thats not really a fair comparison. I imagine their player budget is/was significantly higher than ours. But I agree with our fan base we should be able to easily compete financially with most of the clubs in this league.[/p][/quote]Because including the stadium the guy has put £30 million into the club--we cant compete with that and anyway id rather get there on merit rather than have a vanity project by some rich git whisky1
  • Score: 7

10:08am Tue 13 May 14

Farsley Bantam says...

whisky1 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Olivermac wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec t wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.
Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.
Rotherham have a sugar daddy owner who has pumped millions into the club so thats not really a fair comparison. I imagine their player budget is/was significantly higher than ours. But I agree with our fan base we should be able to easily compete financially with most of the clubs in this league.
Because including the stadium the guy has put £30 million into the club--we cant compete with that and anyway id rather get there on merit rather than have a vanity project by some rich git
I'd rather get there on merit but if someone like the Rotherham Chairman came in I would be quite happy!
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Olivermac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.[/p][/quote]Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.[/p][/quote]Rotherham have a sugar daddy owner who has pumped millions into the club so thats not really a fair comparison. I imagine their player budget is/was significantly higher than ours. But I agree with our fan base we should be able to easily compete financially with most of the clubs in this league.[/p][/quote]Because including the stadium the guy has put £30 million into the club--we cant compete with that and anyway id rather get there on merit rather than have a vanity project by some rich git[/p][/quote]I'd rather get there on merit but if someone like the Rotherham Chairman came in I would be quite happy! Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 7

10:09am Tue 13 May 14

jamiejoe says...

Freddy wrote:
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It would appear to be what I have already forecasted. Further consolidation for next Season. Then a push for promotion the Season after next.
*
Freddy - it would be a strange consolidation strategy by setting a 'stretch' budget of £500k beyond what you could reasonably afford. Consolidation would suggest you would spend less than what was affordable.

Our budget is small compared to any club that has played recent Championship football. We are at our natural point in the league structure and will need some gems on the field like Hendire, McCall or Wells who cost us nowt but do their talking on the pitch to propel us forward back to the 2nd tier of English football.
[quote][p][bold]Freddy[/bold] wrote: * It would appear to be what I have already forecasted. Further consolidation for next Season. Then a push for promotion the Season after next. *[/p][/quote]Freddy - it would be a strange consolidation strategy by setting a 'stretch' budget of £500k beyond what you could reasonably afford. Consolidation would suggest you would spend less than what was affordable. Our budget is small compared to any club that has played recent Championship football. We are at our natural point in the league structure and will need some gems on the field like Hendire, McCall or Wells who cost us nowt but do their talking on the pitch to propel us forward back to the 2nd tier of English football. jamiejoe
  • Score: 14

10:15am Tue 13 May 14

Farsley Bantam says...

jamiejoe wrote:
Freddy wrote: * It would appear to be what I have already forecasted. Further consolidation for next Season. Then a push for promotion the Season after next. *
Freddy - it would be a strange consolidation strategy by setting a 'stretch' budget of £500k beyond what you could reasonably afford. Consolidation would suggest you would spend less than what was affordable. Our budget is small compared to any club that has played recent Championship football. We are at our natural point in the league structure and will need some gems on the field like Hendire, McCall or Wells who cost us nowt but do their talking on the pitch to propel us forward back to the 2nd tier of English football.
Exactly. We are still spending £500k more than we can afford. That is pretty ambitious yet still fairly cautious.
Imagine if we'd gambled a £3m overspend this season in the hope that we'd get promoted. If we failed to get promotion the same people would be moaning about reckless spending.
[quote][p][bold]jamiejoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freddy[/bold] wrote: * It would appear to be what I have already forecasted. Further consolidation for next Season. Then a push for promotion the Season after next. *[/p][/quote]Freddy - it would be a strange consolidation strategy by setting a 'stretch' budget of £500k beyond what you could reasonably afford. Consolidation would suggest you would spend less than what was affordable. Our budget is small compared to any club that has played recent Championship football. We are at our natural point in the league structure and will need some gems on the field like Hendire, McCall or Wells who cost us nowt but do their talking on the pitch to propel us forward back to the 2nd tier of English football.[/p][/quote]Exactly. We are still spending £500k more than we can afford. That is pretty ambitious yet still fairly cautious. Imagine if we'd gambled a £3m overspend this season in the hope that we'd get promoted. If we failed to get promotion the same people would be moaning about reckless spending. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 10

10:23am Tue 13 May 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
jamiejoe wrote:
Freddy wrote: * It would appear to be what I have already forecasted. Further consolidation for next Season. Then a push for promotion the Season after next. *
Freddy - it would be a strange consolidation strategy by setting a 'stretch' budget of £500k beyond what you could reasonably afford. Consolidation would suggest you would spend less than what was affordable. Our budget is small compared to any club that has played recent Championship football. We are at our natural point in the league structure and will need some gems on the field like Hendire, McCall or Wells who cost us nowt but do their talking on the pitch to propel us forward back to the 2nd tier of English football.
Exactly. We are still spending £500k more than we can afford. That is pretty ambitious yet still fairly cautious. Imagine if we'd gambled a £3m overspend this season in the hope that we'd get promoted. If we failed to get promotion the same people would be moaning about reckless spending.
I should also add that a previous bout of reckless spending ended with 3 relegations, 2 administrations and 7 seasons in League 2 with us almost dropping out of the football league. I think I speak for all of us when I say I never want to watch League 2 football again.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jamiejoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freddy[/bold] wrote: * It would appear to be what I have already forecasted. Further consolidation for next Season. Then a push for promotion the Season after next. *[/p][/quote]Freddy - it would be a strange consolidation strategy by setting a 'stretch' budget of £500k beyond what you could reasonably afford. Consolidation would suggest you would spend less than what was affordable. Our budget is small compared to any club that has played recent Championship football. We are at our natural point in the league structure and will need some gems on the field like Hendire, McCall or Wells who cost us nowt but do their talking on the pitch to propel us forward back to the 2nd tier of English football.[/p][/quote]Exactly. We are still spending £500k more than we can afford. That is pretty ambitious yet still fairly cautious. Imagine if we'd gambled a £3m overspend this season in the hope that we'd get promoted. If we failed to get promotion the same people would be moaning about reckless spending.[/p][/quote]I should also add that a previous bout of reckless spending ended with 3 relegations, 2 administrations and 7 seasons in League 2 with us almost dropping out of the football league. I think I speak for all of us when I say I never want to watch League 2 football again. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 29

10:25am Tue 13 May 14

Peter300 says...

Plastic Bantam wrote:
silverbantam wrote:
Where has all the money gone from selling Nahki Wells and the cup run last season ?
You keep asking this question. It has been explained numerous times where the money has gone. Don't you listen?!?!
People like that person don't want to listen. They never do. You might as well talk to a brick wall.
[quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]silverbantam[/bold] wrote: Where has all the money gone from selling Nahki Wells and the cup run last season ?[/p][/quote]You keep asking this question. It has been explained numerous times where the money has gone. Don't you listen?!?![/p][/quote]People like that person don't want to listen. They never do. You might as well talk to a brick wall. Peter300
  • Score: 9

10:27am Tue 13 May 14

Peter300 says...

spearmint wino wrote:
So in other words be prepared to see Darby and Meradith both leave because we were shorted sighted and didn't get them signed up on new contracts therefore they can both go for free. Compare that with the Wells situation and it just doesn't add up for me.
I don't think Mr. Lawn and Mr. Julian can be accused of being short sighted over the past two years.
[quote][p][bold]spearmint wino[/bold] wrote: So in other words be prepared to see Darby and Meradith both leave because we were shorted sighted and didn't get them signed up on new contracts therefore they can both go for free. Compare that with the Wells situation and it just doesn't add up for me.[/p][/quote]I don't think Mr. Lawn and Mr. Julian can be accused of being short sighted over the past two years. Peter300
  • Score: 15

10:29am Tue 13 May 14

shaun from richmond says...

Rhodes wants "Gung-Ho" football next year?....Think you will find Mr Rhodes, that is NOT quite "Parkys" way!!.
STILL we can all dream!!
Rhodes wants "Gung-Ho" football next year?....Think you will find Mr Rhodes, that is NOT quite "Parkys" way!!. STILL we can all dream!! shaun from richmond
  • Score: 7

10:35am Tue 13 May 14

Peter300 says...

minkiebantam wrote:
The loss of Darby and Meredith would be a massive blow to us. Yes we need to be more attack minded, but not at the exspense of the back four we have Now!?
Strengthen midfield and a new keeper and just pray Mclean comes good up front!
CTID.
It's getting the right balance which is always difficult. If we start leaking goals Mr. Julian will be back next year saying we ought to be a little more defensive minded. When City start losing the number of matches Peterborough lose, then the manager will leave and the Mr. Julian will be saying the losses were unacceptable. There is a fine line between a director saying he wants this and that and interfering with managerial decision making. Everyone likes attacking football, but Mr. Julian has to be careful what he wishes for. City's success has been built on a sound defence. Defenders that some fans are now concerned that we will lose.
[quote][p][bold]minkiebantam[/bold] wrote: The loss of Darby and Meredith would be a massive blow to us. Yes we need to be more attack minded, but not at the exspense of the back four we have Now!? Strengthen midfield and a new keeper and just pray Mclean comes good up front! CTID.[/p][/quote]It's getting the right balance which is always difficult. If we start leaking goals Mr. Julian will be back next year saying we ought to be a little more defensive minded. When City start losing the number of matches Peterborough lose, then the manager will leave and the Mr. Julian will be saying the losses were unacceptable. There is a fine line between a director saying he wants this and that and interfering with managerial decision making. Everyone likes attacking football, but Mr. Julian has to be careful what he wishes for. City's success has been built on a sound defence. Defenders that some fans are now concerned that we will lose. Peter300
  • Score: 8

10:36am Tue 13 May 14

Plastic Bantam says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
Olivermac wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec t wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.
Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.
Rotherham have a sugar daddy owner who has pumped millions into the club so thats not really a fair comparison. I imagine their player budget is/was significantly higher than ours. But I agree with our fan base we should be able to easily compete financially with most of the clubs in this league.
Our fanbase is diluted though.. Take away the cheap deals we would prbably get 7,000 tops.. People in Bradford are tight and are not willing to pay the going rate.. When tickets go up to a normal league 1 level (And they will have to at some point) We will then see who the real fans are.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Olivermac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.[/p][/quote]Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.[/p][/quote]Rotherham have a sugar daddy owner who has pumped millions into the club so thats not really a fair comparison. I imagine their player budget is/was significantly higher than ours. But I agree with our fan base we should be able to easily compete financially with most of the clubs in this league.[/p][/quote]Our fanbase is diluted though.. Take away the cheap deals we would prbably get 7,000 tops.. People in Bradford are tight and are not willing to pay the going rate.. When tickets go up to a normal league 1 level (And they will have to at some point) We will then see who the real fans are. Plastic Bantam
  • Score: 7

10:36am Tue 13 May 14

Nickloza says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
Olivermac wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec t wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.
Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.
Rotherham have a sugar daddy owner who has pumped millions into the club so thats not really a fair comparison. I imagine their player budget is/was significantly higher than ours.
But I agree with our fan base we should be able to easily compete financially with most of the clubs in this league.
Similar prices? Their cheapest S/T are £155 dearer than ours and pay on average £15.50 a game and as some has eluded to they have a rich guy pumping money in for fun
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Olivermac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.[/p][/quote]Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.[/p][/quote]Rotherham have a sugar daddy owner who has pumped millions into the club so thats not really a fair comparison. I imagine their player budget is/was significantly higher than ours. But I agree with our fan base we should be able to easily compete financially with most of the clubs in this league.[/p][/quote]Similar prices? Their cheapest S/T are £155 dearer than ours and pay on average £15.50 a game and as some has eluded to they have a rich guy pumping money in for fun Nickloza
  • Score: 7

10:38am Tue 13 May 14

Farsley Bantam says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
Rhodes wants "Gung-Ho" football next year?....Think you will find Mr Rhodes, that is NOT quite "Parkys" way!!. STILL we can all dream!!
Not heard from you for a while. We won a few games towards games towards the back end of the season and you don't comment if we win.
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: Rhodes wants "Gung-Ho" football next year?....Think you will find Mr Rhodes, that is NOT quite "Parkys" way!!. STILL we can all dream!![/p][/quote]Not heard from you for a while. We won a few games towards games towards the back end of the season and you don't comment if we win. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 11

10:44am Tue 13 May 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Plastic Bantam wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Olivermac wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec t wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.
Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.
Rotherham have a sugar daddy owner who has pumped millions into the club so thats not really a fair comparison. I imagine their player budget is/was significantly higher than ours. But I agree with our fan base we should be able to easily compete financially with most of the clubs in this league.
Our fanbase is diluted though.. Take away the cheap deals we would prbably get 7,000 tops.. People in Bradford are tight and are not willing to pay the going rate.. When tickets go up to a normal league 1 level (And they will have to at some point) We will then see who the real fans are.
Why would we have to increase to 'normal league 1 level'? We have the advantage (if you want to call it that) of a 25,000 seater stadium. Surely it is better to have 14,000 fans at £200 rather than 7,000 at £400.
I think the pricing is just right at the moment, especially as we get double the fans of most clubs in the division.
[quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Olivermac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.[/p][/quote]Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.[/p][/quote]Rotherham have a sugar daddy owner who has pumped millions into the club so thats not really a fair comparison. I imagine their player budget is/was significantly higher than ours. But I agree with our fan base we should be able to easily compete financially with most of the clubs in this league.[/p][/quote]Our fanbase is diluted though.. Take away the cheap deals we would prbably get 7,000 tops.. People in Bradford are tight and are not willing to pay the going rate.. When tickets go up to a normal league 1 level (And they will have to at some point) We will then see who the real fans are.[/p][/quote]Why would we have to increase to 'normal league 1 level'? We have the advantage (if you want to call it that) of a 25,000 seater stadium. Surely it is better to have 14,000 fans at £200 rather than 7,000 at £400. I think the pricing is just right at the moment, especially as we get double the fans of most clubs in the division. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 8

11:42am Tue 13 May 14

shaun from richmond says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
Rhodes wants "Gung-Ho" football next year?....Think you will find Mr Rhodes, that is NOT quite "Parkys" way!!. STILL we can all dream!!
Not heard from you for a while. We won a few games towards games towards the back end of the season and you don't comment if we win.
Commented on "SUPER Gary Jones" being shown the door! So not sure what your on about?.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: Rhodes wants "Gung-Ho" football next year?....Think you will find Mr Rhodes, that is NOT quite "Parkys" way!!. STILL we can all dream!![/p][/quote]Not heard from you for a while. We won a few games towards games towards the back end of the season and you don't comment if we win.[/p][/quote]Commented on "SUPER Gary Jones" being shown the door! So not sure what your on about?. shaun from richmond
  • Score: -4

11:43am Tue 13 May 14

tyker7745 says...

what is £500k reduction in playing ages: load of loan players of 2 or three full time pros

I think that cash has already been raised by the non renewal of contracts for the three players not to mention the youngsters who were probably on a pittance.

In reality this is the board saying that we cannot carry a squad which includes non contributing players such as Gray, Taylor and the like.

However it is a worry to hear that the club have a resolution already being considered to cover the deficit? What might that be. Or are sales of Mc Burnie being conidered as a promising youngster or even Hanson.
what is £500k reduction in playing ages: load of loan players of 2 or three full time pros I think that cash has already been raised by the non renewal of contracts for the three players not to mention the youngsters who were probably on a pittance. In reality this is the board saying that we cannot carry a squad which includes non contributing players such as Gray, Taylor and the like. However it is a worry to hear that the club have a resolution already being considered to cover the deficit? What might that be. Or are sales of Mc Burnie being conidered as a promising youngster or even Hanson. tyker7745
  • Score: 3

11:46am Tue 13 May 14

Plastic Bantam says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
Plastic Bantam wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Olivermac wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec t wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.
Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.
Rotherham have a sugar daddy owner who has pumped millions into the club so thats not really a fair comparison. I imagine their player budget is/was significantly higher than ours. But I agree with our fan base we should be able to easily compete financially with most of the clubs in this league.
Our fanbase is diluted though.. Take away the cheap deals we would prbably get 7,000 tops.. People in Bradford are tight and are not willing to pay the going rate.. When tickets go up to a normal league 1 level (And they will have to at some point) We will then see who the real fans are.
Why would we have to increase to 'normal league 1 level'? We have the advantage (if you want to call it that) of a 25,000 seater stadium. Surely it is better to have 14,000 fans at £200 rather than 7,000 at £400.
I think the pricing is just right at the moment, especially as we get double the fans of most clubs in the division.
That's the problem though... Too many "fans" only come as they get a cheap ticket. If they went up to a normal league one level, some wouldn't buy them regardless if they could afford it or not.. The fans who have gone through the mill with this club will more or less pay what they're asked to pay. What we need and should have is 10,000 fans paying £350. Can't see that happening without success.. But we won't have success without more money. These "fans" seem to be the first ones to moan as well when we have to sell or release our best players.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Olivermac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.[/p][/quote]Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.[/p][/quote]Rotherham have a sugar daddy owner who has pumped millions into the club so thats not really a fair comparison. I imagine their player budget is/was significantly higher than ours. But I agree with our fan base we should be able to easily compete financially with most of the clubs in this league.[/p][/quote]Our fanbase is diluted though.. Take away the cheap deals we would prbably get 7,000 tops.. People in Bradford are tight and are not willing to pay the going rate.. When tickets go up to a normal league 1 level (And they will have to at some point) We will then see who the real fans are.[/p][/quote]Why would we have to increase to 'normal league 1 level'? We have the advantage (if you want to call it that) of a 25,000 seater stadium. Surely it is better to have 14,000 fans at £200 rather than 7,000 at £400. I think the pricing is just right at the moment, especially as we get double the fans of most clubs in the division.[/p][/quote]That's the problem though... Too many "fans" only come as they get a cheap ticket. If they went up to a normal league one level, some wouldn't buy them regardless if they could afford it or not.. The fans who have gone through the mill with this club will more or less pay what they're asked to pay. What we need and should have is 10,000 fans paying £350. Can't see that happening without success.. But we won't have success without more money. These "fans" seem to be the first ones to moan as well when we have to sell or release our best players. Plastic Bantam
  • Score: 7

11:55am Tue 13 May 14

spearmint wino says...

I think season tickets should have gone up by at least £10, less than 50p per game that's not going to break the bank is it? Most fans are realistic and would accept a small increase without any moans.
I think season tickets should have gone up by at least £10, less than 50p per game that's not going to break the bank is it? Most fans are realistic and would accept a small increase without any moans. spearmint wino
  • Score: 10

12:15pm Tue 13 May 14

Victor Clayton says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
Rhodes wants "Gung-Ho" football next year?....Think you will find Mr Rhodes, that is NOT quite "Parkys" way!!. STILL we can all dream!!
I agree. its not easy to score when there are 8/9 players being defensive.
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: Rhodes wants "Gung-Ho" football next year?....Think you will find Mr Rhodes, that is NOT quite "Parkys" way!!. STILL we can all dream!![/p][/quote]I agree. its not easy to score when there are 8/9 players being defensive. Victor Clayton
  • Score: 3

12:24pm Tue 13 May 14

gordon ramsay says...

The key area of impovment for me is spending it wisely...

In the promotion season we did that and recruited well.

Last season we wasted so much money with, in the main, poor recruitment. So much budget wased on peope who contributed nothing.

If we do that.. and that's a true test of a manager then we will not even feel such a reduction.

I fully expect to see Doyle and Meredith (championship club) as the next out of the door
The key area of impovment for me is spending it wisely... In the promotion season we did that and recruited well. Last season we wasted so much money with, in the main, poor recruitment. So much budget wased on peope who contributed nothing. If we do that.. and that's a true test of a manager then we will not even feel such a reduction. I fully expect to see Doyle and Meredith (championship club) as the next out of the door gordon ramsay
  • Score: 8

12:39pm Tue 13 May 14

Victor Clayton says...

spearmint wino wrote:
I think season tickets should have gone up by at least £10, less than 50p per game that's not going to break the bank is it? Most fans are realistic and would accept a small increase without any moans.
yes, nudge it up a bit every year.
[quote][p][bold]spearmint wino[/bold] wrote: I think season tickets should have gone up by at least £10, less than 50p per game that's not going to break the bank is it? Most fans are realistic and would accept a small increase without any moans.[/p][/quote]yes, nudge it up a bit every year. Victor Clayton
  • Score: 4

12:40pm Tue 13 May 14

Halifax Bantam says...

Looks like the chairmen have given pp a clear directive as to his style of play for next season, clearly they havent been impressed with his defensive lump it football and its prob a big factor in the number of season ticket sales so far. I cant see Darby staying a clean sweep at the player awards will mean championship clubs will be all over him. I know peter300 didnt believe me but Darby was very close to signing for Brighton in jan, now their manager has gone it may not be the case but others will come for him. Hope Meredith stays, i can live with Mcardle going and hopefully we wont wait til the last min to utilise a couple of season long loans for prem youngsters
Looks like the chairmen have given pp a clear directive as to his style of play for next season, clearly they havent been impressed with his defensive lump it football and its prob a big factor in the number of season ticket sales so far. I cant see Darby staying a clean sweep at the player awards will mean championship clubs will be all over him. I know peter300 didnt believe me but Darby was very close to signing for Brighton in jan, now their manager has gone it may not be the case but others will come for him. Hope Meredith stays, i can live with Mcardle going and hopefully we wont wait til the last min to utilise a couple of season long loans for prem youngsters Halifax Bantam
  • Score: 5

1:46pm Tue 13 May 14

Durko11 says...

You say our attendances will drop with a price increase and that bradford fans are tight, but bradford fans have shown their loyalty turning up in good numbers at away games.
Just hope we sign Reach...
You say our attendances will drop with a price increase and that bradford fans are tight, but bradford fans have shown their loyalty turning up in good numbers at away games. Just hope we sign Reach... Durko11
  • Score: 2

2:00pm Tue 13 May 14

basil fawlty says...

There is a view that Division 1 is not going to be as strong next season so maybe a little money will go a long way. And if we are there or thereabout I would expect the joint chairmen to put their hands in their pockets in January. Onwards and upwards!
There is a view that Division 1 is not going to be as strong next season so maybe a little money will go a long way. And if we are there or thereabout I would expect the joint chairmen to put their hands in their pockets in January. Onwards and upwards! basil fawlty
  • Score: 0

2:23pm Tue 13 May 14

spearmint wino says...

Durko11 wrote:
You say our attendances will drop with a price increase and that bradford fans are tight, but bradford fans have shown their loyalty turning up in good numbers at away games.
Just hope we sign Reach...
Opps voted down when I ment up? Yes city fans turn up in large numbers at away games often providing clubs with there largest addendence after Wolves.
[quote][p][bold]Durko11[/bold] wrote: You say our attendances will drop with a price increase and that bradford fans are tight, but bradford fans have shown their loyalty turning up in good numbers at away games. Just hope we sign Reach...[/p][/quote]Opps voted down when I ment up? Yes city fans turn up in large numbers at away games often providing clubs with there largest addendence after Wolves. spearmint wino
  • Score: 1

3:30pm Tue 13 May 14

lawsonio123 says...

at the end of the day the Directors can only spend what they can afford they do not have Millions to throw away but they are City fans and spend there own Money on the club nobody can ask for more. They want promotion just like us but there is a limit to what they can give rest assured they will do whatever they can As regards the waste in the past that is only true in hindsight it was a Serious attempt to mix it with the big boys which unfortunately failed had it been successful we may today be playing in Europe.
at the end of the day the Directors can only spend what they can afford they do not have Millions to throw away but they are City fans and spend there own Money on the club nobody can ask for more. They want promotion just like us but there is a limit to what they can give rest assured they will do whatever they can As regards the waste in the past that is only true in hindsight it was a Serious attempt to mix it with the big boys which unfortunately failed had it been successful we may today be playing in Europe. lawsonio123
  • Score: 5

4:12pm Tue 13 May 14

dazp says...

this could be just a statement from Rhodes to get people to buy season tickets as from last october the football was dreadfull. its a catch 22 some people dont want to renew due to the current team being poor and we cant sign players until we now how many tickets we have sold i suggest rhodes extends the deadline until end of june so the fans can see who comes in and who goes that way we may sell more tickets, past the end of may nobody will buy a ticket at £100 more
this could be just a statement from Rhodes to get people to buy season tickets as from last october the football was dreadfull. its a catch 22 some people dont want to renew due to the current team being poor and we cant sign players until we now how many tickets we have sold i suggest rhodes extends the deadline until end of june so the fans can see who comes in and who goes that way we may sell more tickets, past the end of may nobody will buy a ticket at £100 more dazp
  • Score: -5

4:18pm Tue 13 May 14

Plastic Bantam says...

Yeovil managed to get promoter on £1,000,000 budget. Nothing to stop us doing the same
Yeovil managed to get promoter on £1,000,000 budget. Nothing to stop us doing the same Plastic Bantam
  • Score: 1

4:37pm Tue 13 May 14

lawsonio123 says...

basil fawlty wrote:
There is a view that Division 1 is not going to be as strong next season so maybe a little money will go a long way. And if we are there or thereabout I would expect the joint chairmen to put their hands in their pockets in January. Onwards and upwards!
They may well do so but they do not have bottomless pockets Have you any spare cash basil
[quote][p][bold]basil fawlty[/bold] wrote: There is a view that Division 1 is not going to be as strong next season so maybe a little money will go a long way. And if we are there or thereabout I would expect the joint chairmen to put their hands in their pockets in January. Onwards and upwards![/p][/quote]They may well do so but they do not have bottomless pockets Have you any spare cash basil lawsonio123
  • Score: 1

4:55pm Tue 13 May 14

jamiejoe says...

Plastic Bantam wrote:
Yeovil managed to get promoter on £1,000,000 budget. Nothing to stop us doing the same
PlasticB ... there are probably a thousand and one reasons why that won't happen again in a hurry. If indeed it was ever that low, that is a low 4th division budget.

20 good reasons for a start would mean a v small squad on just less than a grand a week - which would mean changing most of the players that we currently have on the clubs books and getting incredibly lucky in putting it all together to gel.

We know that we are paying the better paid players much more than £50 k a year - up to 5 times that for some of them plus tax, bonuses etc ...

It gets much more expensive once you step up as well. Many Championship squads averaging out at £25 million a year. Okay - there is at least £6 million a year towards that in TV money but the gap is difficult to bridge from our position.
[quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: Yeovil managed to get promoter on £1,000,000 budget. Nothing to stop us doing the same[/p][/quote]PlasticB ... there are probably a thousand and one reasons why that won't happen again in a hurry. If indeed it was ever that low, that is a low 4th division budget. 20 good reasons for a start would mean a v small squad on just less than a grand a week - which would mean changing most of the players that we currently have on the clubs books and getting incredibly lucky in putting it all together to gel. We know that we are paying the better paid players much more than £50 k a year - up to 5 times that for some of them plus tax, bonuses etc ... It gets much more expensive once you step up as well. Many Championship squads averaging out at £25 million a year. Okay - there is at least £6 million a year towards that in TV money but the gap is difficult to bridge from our position. jamiejoe
  • Score: 0

5:47pm Tue 13 May 14

tyker7745 says...

the only way we are going to get true attacking football is if we keep it on the ground, play wide man and hit the bye line and get some decent crosses in from good positions. This sadly is not Parky's method!

No more hammering the ball forward at 7 foot off the ground from the defenders or the keeper
the only way we are going to get true attacking football is if we keep it on the ground, play wide man and hit the bye line and get some decent crosses in from good positions. This sadly is not Parky's method! No more hammering the ball forward at 7 foot off the ground from the defenders or the keeper tyker7745
  • Score: 3

5:47pm Tue 13 May 14

Plastic Bantam says...

jamiejoe wrote:
Plastic Bantam wrote:
Yeovil managed to get promoter on £1,000,000 budget. Nothing to stop us doing the same
PlasticB ... there are probably a thousand and one reasons why that won't happen again in a hurry. If indeed it was ever that low, that is a low 4th division budget.

20 good reasons for a start would mean a v small squad on just less than a grand a week - which would mean changing most of the players that we currently have on the clubs books and getting incredibly lucky in putting it all together to gel.

We know that we are paying the better paid players much more than £50 k a year - up to 5 times that for some of them plus tax, bonuses etc ...

It gets much more expensive once you step up as well. Many Championship squads averaging out at £25 million a year. Okay - there is at least £6 million a year towards that in TV money but the gap is difficult to bridge from our position.
I know it's highly unlikely to happen again. My point was that they did it on that.. Our budget will be higher than that. It's not all about paying wages to the the best players. At this level if you have a good squad of hard working players with a bit of talent it can take you a long way..

it's about signing the right players not necessarily the best.
[quote][p][bold]jamiejoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: Yeovil managed to get promoter on £1,000,000 budget. Nothing to stop us doing the same[/p][/quote]PlasticB ... there are probably a thousand and one reasons why that won't happen again in a hurry. If indeed it was ever that low, that is a low 4th division budget. 20 good reasons for a start would mean a v small squad on just less than a grand a week - which would mean changing most of the players that we currently have on the clubs books and getting incredibly lucky in putting it all together to gel. We know that we are paying the better paid players much more than £50 k a year - up to 5 times that for some of them plus tax, bonuses etc ... It gets much more expensive once you step up as well. Many Championship squads averaging out at £25 million a year. Okay - there is at least £6 million a year towards that in TV money but the gap is difficult to bridge from our position.[/p][/quote]I know it's highly unlikely to happen again. My point was that they did it on that.. Our budget will be higher than that. It's not all about paying wages to the the best players. At this level if you have a good squad of hard working players with a bit of talent it can take you a long way.. it's about signing the right players not necessarily the best. Plastic Bantam
  • Score: 2

7:24pm Tue 13 May 14

garyh1 says...

Had we bought the ground back instead of paying our chairmans £1 m loan we could have been rent free and in a position to pay back the loan over a period ( instead of rent ) this would have been a much more effective way of spending all the money from the cup run , promotion , TV money BUT we chose to pay the loan ? The nakhi sale went on the playing budget ?
Will it take another cup run in a hundred years to be in a position to build another team that will survive in the championship .
Sorry it still sticks in the throat how we managed last years windfall and letting Gary jones go does not help either !!!!
Had we bought the ground back instead of paying our chairmans £1 m loan we could have been rent free and in a position to pay back the loan over a period ( instead of rent ) this would have been a much more effective way of spending all the money from the cup run , promotion , TV money BUT we chose to pay the loan ? The nakhi sale went on the playing budget ? Will it take another cup run in a hundred years to be in a position to build another team that will survive in the championship . Sorry it still sticks in the throat how we managed last years windfall and letting Gary jones go does not help either !!!! garyh1
  • Score: -3

8:10pm Tue 13 May 14

blowinfree says...

We all knew that the team would have to be broken up sometime and the Wembley games are now happy memories.
I,am sure we will see how good a manager we have got now difficult decisions have to be made,fans favourite players go.
The two chairmen we have done,t have funds flowing like some,and do a great job while it seems nobody wants to jump onboard to takeover.
So let's just get on with whoever wears the shirt next season.
😁
We all knew that the team would have to be broken up sometime and the Wembley games are now happy memories. I,am sure we will see how good a manager we have got now difficult decisions have to be made,fans favourite players go. The two chairmen we have done,t have funds flowing like some,and do a great job while it seems nobody wants to jump onboard to takeover. So let's just get on with whoever wears the shirt next season. 😁 blowinfree
  • Score: 0

8:42pm Tue 13 May 14

bcfcincheshire says...

Just as the old guard are steadily leaving the England fold then it is time for another proper rebuild at City. ..McBurnie will get more opportunities this year and may well be ready to take them in his stride...midfield is the crux though as we need an attacking thrust and goals from that area...if McLean starts like he finished and Hanson continues to develop his own game both pushed hard by a hungry McBurnie. .then a stronger attacking midfield could genuinely see a fifth or sixth being competed for. ..Tranmere was a good indication of how things could go...it's all to play for over the summer with pre season training, signings and tactical change all about to move into full swing...
Just as the old guard are steadily leaving the England fold then it is time for another proper rebuild at City. ..McBurnie will get more opportunities this year and may well be ready to take them in his stride...midfield is the crux though as we need an attacking thrust and goals from that area...if McLean starts like he finished and Hanson continues to develop his own game both pushed hard by a hungry McBurnie. .then a stronger attacking midfield could genuinely see a fifth or sixth being competed for. ..Tranmere was a good indication of how things could go...it's all to play for over the summer with pre season training, signings and tactical change all about to move into full swing... bcfcincheshire
  • Score: 2

8:55pm Tue 13 May 14

Victor Clayton says...

bcfcincheshire wrote:
Just as the old guard are steadily leaving the England fold then it is time for another proper rebuild at City. ..McBurnie will get more opportunities this year and may well be ready to take them in his stride...midfield is the crux though as we need an attacking thrust and goals from that area...if McLean starts like he finished and Hanson continues to develop his own game both pushed hard by a hungry McBurnie. .then a stronger attacking midfield could genuinely see a fifth or sixth being competed for. ..Tranmere was a good indication of how things could go...it's all to play for over the summer with pre season training, signings and tactical change all about to move into full swing...
I think if we can get one more striker, to add to the 3 we have, up front would be sorted. Agree about midfield and depending on who leaves i hope he goes for quality over quantity. He can always dip in to the loan market, where it seems to be easier to get better quality anyway.
[quote][p][bold]bcfcincheshire[/bold] wrote: Just as the old guard are steadily leaving the England fold then it is time for another proper rebuild at City. ..McBurnie will get more opportunities this year and may well be ready to take them in his stride...midfield is the crux though as we need an attacking thrust and goals from that area...if McLean starts like he finished and Hanson continues to develop his own game both pushed hard by a hungry McBurnie. .then a stronger attacking midfield could genuinely see a fifth or sixth being competed for. ..Tranmere was a good indication of how things could go...it's all to play for over the summer with pre season training, signings and tactical change all about to move into full swing...[/p][/quote]I think if we can get one more striker, to add to the 3 we have, up front would be sorted. Agree about midfield and depending on who leaves i hope he goes for quality over quantity. He can always dip in to the loan market, where it seems to be easier to get better quality anyway. Victor Clayton
  • Score: 1

9:26pm Tue 13 May 14

AndyJ1972 says...

James Hanson to Crystal Palace. You read it here first.
James Hanson to Crystal Palace. You read it here first. AndyJ1972
  • Score: 0

9:33pm Tue 13 May 14

Citygent1960 says...

Plastic Bantam wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Olivermac wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec t wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.
Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.
Rotherham have a sugar daddy owner who has pumped millions into the club so thats not really a fair comparison. I imagine their player budget is/was significantly higher than ours. But I agree with our fan base we should be able to easily compete financially with most of the clubs in this league.
Our fanbase is diluted though.. Take away the cheap deals we would prbably get 7,000 tops.. People in Bradford are tight and are not willing to pay the going rate.. When tickets go up to a normal league 1 level (And they will have to at some point) We will then see who the real fans are.
If you are so concerned about paying the going rate why don't you just wait untill the 1st of June before buying yours?
[quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Olivermac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: It looks like we are going to b down 2,500 season ticket and flexi sales. However the positive side of that will be potentially more gate receipts on the day. To do that we need to play attacking football, I would rather see 4-3 games than 1-0 all daylong and that excitement it what will bring fans back. I disagree about the full backs, especially right back, it is a fairly easy position to fill for a lot less than the money Darby is on. Andrew Davies is far more important to the team than Darby although he was player of the season, we struggle far more with Davies missing. Once Drury came in we did not miss Mezza. You can't expect to pay £8 a game with cheap season tickets and expect anything else really.[/p][/quote]Why can't you expect a decent game of Football for £8 per game don't forget these season tickets are gauranteed income for the club and to be honest some of the games home and away have not even been worth the £8 and let's not forget we had the third highest attendance in Div 1 put the prices up then you will see season ticket holders attendances drop and in my opinion they will think twice before commiting to a new season look at Rortherham similar prices to City but they have half the season ticket holders that City have and similar prices looks like they may get promoted.[/p][/quote]Rotherham have a sugar daddy owner who has pumped millions into the club so thats not really a fair comparison. I imagine their player budget is/was significantly higher than ours. But I agree with our fan base we should be able to easily compete financially with most of the clubs in this league.[/p][/quote]Our fanbase is diluted though.. Take away the cheap deals we would prbably get 7,000 tops.. People in Bradford are tight and are not willing to pay the going rate.. When tickets go up to a normal league 1 level (And they will have to at some point) We will then see who the real fans are.[/p][/quote]If you are so concerned about paying the going rate why don't you just wait untill the 1st of June before buying yours? Citygent1960
  • Score: 2

12:09am Wed 14 May 14

tinytoonster says...

i would be happy finishing in the same place but get there earlier!
i would be happy finishing in the same place but get there earlier! tinytoonster
  • Score: 0

12:50am Wed 14 May 14

Bradford1903 says...

Apart from the usual message to try drum up season ticket sales at this time of year, I don't see why Rhodes' comments should provoke a typically hysterical reaction on here. All he is saying is that we need to effectively utilise resources.

I look at someone like Doyle; while I like him as a player, reportedly he is one of our higher earners, and I think we can get someone who can do just as good of job as him, yet considerably cheaper.

Hopefully we will be able to retain the likes of Darby, McArdle and Meredith, but the real areas that need strengthening are the midfield and out wide.

Hopefully we can also find a taker for Yeates, which will free up some room on the wage bill; a player of undoubted ability, but does not appear to fit in with the team work ethic.
Apart from the usual message to try drum up season ticket sales at this time of year, I don't see why Rhodes' comments should provoke a typically hysterical reaction on here. All he is saying is that we need to effectively utilise resources. I look at someone like Doyle; while I like him as a player, reportedly he is one of our higher earners, and I think we can get someone who can do just as good of job as him, yet considerably cheaper. Hopefully we will be able to retain the likes of Darby, McArdle and Meredith, but the real areas that need strengthening are the midfield and out wide. Hopefully we can also find a taker for Yeates, which will free up some room on the wage bill; a player of undoubted ability, but does not appear to fit in with the team work ethic. Bradford1903
  • Score: 1

1:14am Wed 14 May 14

Avenger78 says...

Hanson could be going to Blackpool already in talks and Darby also wants to leave
Hanson could be going to Blackpool already in talks and Darby also wants to leave Avenger78
  • Score: 0

1:21am Wed 14 May 14

Avenger78 says...

Hanson in Blackpool hotel "De Vere Heron's Reach", with Karl Oyston and other people
Hanson in Blackpool hotel "De Vere Heron's Reach", with Karl Oyston and other people Avenger78
  • Score: 0

1:21am Wed 14 May 14

Avenger78 says...

Hanson in Blackpool hotel "De Vere Heron's Reach", with Karl Oyston and other people
Hanson in Blackpool hotel "De Vere Heron's Reach", with Karl Oyston and other people Avenger78
  • Score: 0

1:25am Wed 14 May 14

Avenger78 says...

Hanson in Blackpool hotel "De Vere Heron's Reach", with Karl Oyston and other people
Hanson in Blackpool hotel "De Vere Heron's Reach", with Karl Oyston and other people Avenger78
  • Score: 0

1:29am Wed 14 May 14

Avenger78 says...

Hanson in Blackpool hotel "De Vere Heron's Reach", with Karl Oyston and other people
Hanson in Blackpool hotel "De Vere Heron's Reach", with Karl Oyston and other people Avenger78
  • Score: 0

1:37am Wed 14 May 14

Avenger78 says...

Hanson in Blackpool hotel "De Vere Heron's Reach", with Karl Oyston and other people
Hanson in Blackpool hotel "De Vere Heron's Reach", with Karl Oyston and other people Avenger78
  • Score: 0

7:30am Wed 14 May 14

Michael Clayton says...

garyh1 wrote:
Had we bought the ground back instead of paying our chairmans £1 m loan we could have been rent free and in a position to pay back the loan over a period ( instead of rent ) this would have been a much more effective way of spending all the money from the cup run , promotion , TV money BUT we chose to pay the loan ? The nakhi sale went on the playing budget ?
Will it take another cup run in a hundred years to be in a position to build another team that will survive in the championship .
Sorry it still sticks in the throat how we managed last years windfall and letting Gary jones go does not help either !!!!
Who do you refer to when you say "Had we"? Unfortunately, "we" are not the owners of the club.

The respect merits are irrelevant. It was Mark Lawn's prerogative to call in what was owed to him.
[quote][p][bold]garyh1[/bold] wrote: Had we bought the ground back instead of paying our chairmans £1 m loan we could have been rent free and in a position to pay back the loan over a period ( instead of rent ) this would have been a much more effective way of spending all the money from the cup run , promotion , TV money BUT we chose to pay the loan ? The nakhi sale went on the playing budget ? Will it take another cup run in a hundred years to be in a position to build another team that will survive in the championship . Sorry it still sticks in the throat how we managed last years windfall and letting Gary jones go does not help either !!!![/p][/quote]Who do you refer to when you say "Had we"? Unfortunately, "we" are not the owners of the club. The respect merits are irrelevant. It was Mark Lawn's prerogative to call in what was owed to him. Michael Clayton
  • Score: -5

7:31am Wed 14 May 14

Michael Clayton says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
garyh1 wrote:
Had we bought the ground back instead of paying our chairmans £1 m loan we could have been rent free and in a position to pay back the loan over a period ( instead of rent ) this would have been a much more effective way of spending all the money from the cup run , promotion , TV money BUT we chose to pay the loan ? The nakhi sale went on the playing budget ?
Will it take another cup run in a hundred years to be in a position to build another team that will survive in the championship .
Sorry it still sticks in the throat how we managed last years windfall and letting Gary jones go does not help either !!!!
Who do you refer to when you say "Had we"? Unfortunately, "we" are not the owners of the club.

The respect merits are irrelevant. It was Mark Lawn's prerogative to call in what was owed to him.
When I said "unfortunately" there is actually no fortune about it. It is all down to fact.
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garyh1[/bold] wrote: Had we bought the ground back instead of paying our chairmans £1 m loan we could have been rent free and in a position to pay back the loan over a period ( instead of rent ) this would have been a much more effective way of spending all the money from the cup run , promotion , TV money BUT we chose to pay the loan ? The nakhi sale went on the playing budget ? Will it take another cup run in a hundred years to be in a position to build another team that will survive in the championship . Sorry it still sticks in the throat how we managed last years windfall and letting Gary jones go does not help either !!!![/p][/quote]Who do you refer to when you say "Had we"? Unfortunately, "we" are not the owners of the club. The respect merits are irrelevant. It was Mark Lawn's prerogative to call in what was owed to him.[/p][/quote]When I said "unfortunately" there is actually no fortune about it. It is all down to fact. Michael Clayton
  • Score: -5

7:40am Wed 14 May 14

Michael Clayton says...

tyker7745 wrote:
the only way we are going to get true attacking football is if we keep it on the ground, play wide man and hit the bye line and get some decent crosses in from good positions. This sadly is not Parky's method!

No more hammering the ball forward at 7 foot off the ground from the defenders or the keeper
Parky's method is designed to accumulate enough points through percentage football. It is sometimes a necessary evil. At other times, it is because the team has run out of options.

Remember that the club is in recovery and is by no means the finsihed article. You demands are somewhat unreasonable at this stage.
[quote][p][bold]tyker7745[/bold] wrote: the only way we are going to get true attacking football is if we keep it on the ground, play wide man and hit the bye line and get some decent crosses in from good positions. This sadly is not Parky's method! No more hammering the ball forward at 7 foot off the ground from the defenders or the keeper[/p][/quote]Parky's method is designed to accumulate enough points through percentage football. It is sometimes a necessary evil. At other times, it is because the team has run out of options. Remember that the club is in recovery and is by no means the finsihed article. You demands are somewhat unreasonable at this stage. Michael Clayton
  • Score: -4

8:32am Wed 14 May 14

tyker7745 says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
tyker7745 wrote:
the only way we are going to get true attacking football is if we keep it on the ground, play wide man and hit the bye line and get some decent crosses in from good positions. This sadly is not Parky's method!

No more hammering the ball forward at 7 foot off the ground from the defenders or the keeper
Parky's method is designed to accumulate enough points through percentage football. It is sometimes a necessary evil. At other times, it is because the team has run out of options.

Remember that the club is in recovery and is by no means the finsihed article. You demands are somewhat unreasonable at this stage.
what to play proper football:look how Brentford played They pass the ball with pace. Only long kicks by the keeper when under pressure (rarely).
So why should that type of football be beyond City?

As for Hanson going to Blackpool? does the lad not want to improve himself beyond a poor championship team?
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tyker7745[/bold] wrote: the only way we are going to get true attacking football is if we keep it on the ground, play wide man and hit the bye line and get some decent crosses in from good positions. This sadly is not Parky's method! No more hammering the ball forward at 7 foot off the ground from the defenders or the keeper[/p][/quote]Parky's method is designed to accumulate enough points through percentage football. It is sometimes a necessary evil. At other times, it is because the team has run out of options. Remember that the club is in recovery and is by no means the finsihed article. You demands are somewhat unreasonable at this stage.[/p][/quote]what to play proper football:look how Brentford played They pass the ball with pace. Only long kicks by the keeper when under pressure (rarely). So why should that type of football be beyond City? As for Hanson going to Blackpool? does the lad not want to improve himself beyond a poor championship team? tyker7745
  • Score: 2

10:05am Wed 14 May 14

Boing-Boing says...

tyker7745 wrote:
what is £500k reduction in playing ages: load of loan players of 2 or three full time pros

I think that cash has already been raised by the non renewal of contracts for the three players not to mention the youngsters who were probably on a pittance.

In reality this is the board saying that we cannot carry a squad which includes non contributing players such as Gray, Taylor and the like.

However it is a worry to hear that the club have a resolution already being considered to cover the deficit? What might that be. Or are sales of Mc Burnie being conidered as a promising youngster or even Hanson.
Could be a new sponsorship deal? I deal of £800.000 over 2 or 3 years could bring in the extra if we don't make any extra revenue like a bonus cup run
[quote][p][bold]tyker7745[/bold] wrote: what is £500k reduction in playing ages: load of loan players of 2 or three full time pros I think that cash has already been raised by the non renewal of contracts for the three players not to mention the youngsters who were probably on a pittance. In reality this is the board saying that we cannot carry a squad which includes non contributing players such as Gray, Taylor and the like. However it is a worry to hear that the club have a resolution already being considered to cover the deficit? What might that be. Or are sales of Mc Burnie being conidered as a promising youngster or even Hanson.[/p][/quote]Could be a new sponsorship deal? I deal of £800.000 over 2 or 3 years could bring in the extra if we don't make any extra revenue like a bonus cup run Boing-Boing
  • Score: 0

10:08am Wed 14 May 14

Boing-Boing says...

Although im Not sure if any deals are expiring
Although im Not sure if any deals are expiring Boing-Boing
  • Score: 0

10:39am Wed 14 May 14

sydnycat says...

Mr. Rhodes statement that the budget is reduced by £500,000 will njot encourage anyone. To say that the budget is already £500,000 more than what we can reasonably afford without clarity as to the total figure is also meaningless.
Clearly, last year £150.000 misspent went to Falkirk for some administrative error. Hopefully now eradicated.
Also first round exits from 3 cup competitions was very costly.
Most supporter will b satisfied with t final League One position but if Mr. Rhodes and the the, strangely silent, Mr. Lawn are not more optimistic, what hope is there for next season???
Mr. Rhodes statement that the budget is reduced by £500,000 will njot encourage anyone. To say that the budget is already £500,000 more than what we can reasonably afford without clarity as to the total figure is also meaningless. Clearly, last year £150.000 misspent went to Falkirk for some administrative error. Hopefully now eradicated. Also first round exits from 3 cup competitions was very costly. Most supporter will b satisfied with t final League One position but if Mr. Rhodes and the the, strangely silent, Mr. Lawn are not more optimistic, what hope is there for next season??? sydnycat
  • Score: 2

10:49am Wed 14 May 14

Michael Clayton says...

tyker7745 wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
tyker7745 wrote:
the only way we are going to get true attacking football is if we keep it on the ground, play wide man and hit the bye line and get some decent crosses in from good positions. This sadly is not Parky's method!

No more hammering the ball forward at 7 foot off the ground from the defenders or the keeper
Parky's method is designed to accumulate enough points through percentage football. It is sometimes a necessary evil. At other times, it is because the team has run out of options.

Remember that the club is in recovery and is by no means the finsihed article. You demands are somewhat unreasonable at this stage.
what to play proper football:look how Brentford played They pass the ball with pace. Only long kicks by the keeper when under pressure (rarely).
So why should that type of football be beyond City?

As for Hanson going to Blackpool? does the lad not want to improve himself beyond a poor championship team?
Brentford were an established League One outfit. Their squad is much stronger.

Bradford had all on to make it via the play-offs and then had eleven weeks to ensure there was a squad capable of surviving at the higher level.

Transfer business was probably rushed and contract triggers reduced options. Couple that with all the Wembley hype. Parky was not to short of being on a hiding to nothing.
[quote][p][bold]tyker7745[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tyker7745[/bold] wrote: the only way we are going to get true attacking football is if we keep it on the ground, play wide man and hit the bye line and get some decent crosses in from good positions. This sadly is not Parky's method! No more hammering the ball forward at 7 foot off the ground from the defenders or the keeper[/p][/quote]Parky's method is designed to accumulate enough points through percentage football. It is sometimes a necessary evil. At other times, it is because the team has run out of options. Remember that the club is in recovery and is by no means the finsihed article. You demands are somewhat unreasonable at this stage.[/p][/quote]what to play proper football:look how Brentford played They pass the ball with pace. Only long kicks by the keeper when under pressure (rarely). So why should that type of football be beyond City? As for Hanson going to Blackpool? does the lad not want to improve himself beyond a poor championship team?[/p][/quote]Brentford were an established League One outfit. Their squad is much stronger. Bradford had all on to make it via the play-offs and then had eleven weeks to ensure there was a squad capable of surviving at the higher level. Transfer business was probably rushed and contract triggers reduced options. Couple that with all the Wembley hype. Parky was not to short of being on a hiding to nothing. Michael Clayton
  • Score: -2

12:07pm Wed 14 May 14

Boing-Boing says...

Hope we dont lose out on our targets because were dealing with out of contract players first, last season was the play offs that pushed our dealings in the market back.
Parky must have targets who may sign elsewhere if we are late in showing interest.
Hope we dont lose out on our targets because were dealing with out of contract players first, last season was the play offs that pushed our dealings in the market back. Parky must have targets who may sign elsewhere if we are late in showing interest. Boing-Boing
  • Score: 0

2:21pm Wed 14 May 14

lawsonio123 says...

garyh1 wrote:
Had we bought the ground back instead of paying our chairmans £1 m loan we could have been rent free and in a position to pay back the loan over a period ( instead of rent ) this would have been a much more effective way of spending all the money from the cup run , promotion , TV money BUT we chose to pay the loan ? The nakhi sale went on the playing budget ?
Will it take another cup run in a hundred years to be in a position to build another team that will survive in the championship .
Sorry it still sticks in the throat how we managed last years windfall and letting Gary jones go does not help either !!!!
The Problem is you would nee a lot more than 1 million t buy it back 5 milion
[quote][p][bold]garyh1[/bold] wrote: Had we bought the ground back instead of paying our chairmans £1 m loan we could have been rent free and in a position to pay back the loan over a period ( instead of rent ) this would have been a much more effective way of spending all the money from the cup run , promotion , TV money BUT we chose to pay the loan ? The nakhi sale went on the playing budget ? Will it take another cup run in a hundred years to be in a position to build another team that will survive in the championship . Sorry it still sticks in the throat how we managed last years windfall and letting Gary jones go does not help either !!!![/p][/quote]The Problem is you would nee a lot more than 1 million t buy it back 5 milion lawsonio123
  • Score: 0

2:32pm Wed 14 May 14

lawsonio123 says...

Avenger78 wrote:
Hanson in Blackpool hotel "De Vere Heron's Reach", with Karl Oyston and other people
OYSTON has not been in De Vere Hotel
[quote][p][bold]Avenger78[/bold] wrote: Hanson in Blackpool hotel "De Vere Heron's Reach", with Karl Oyston and other people[/p][/quote]OYSTON has not been in De Vere Hotel lawsonio123
  • Score: 0

4:49pm Wed 14 May 14

whisky1 says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
tyker7745 wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
tyker7745 wrote:
the only way we are going to get true attacking football is if we keep it on the ground, play wide man and hit the bye line and get some decent crosses in from good positions. This sadly is not Parky's method!

No more hammering the ball forward at 7 foot off the ground from the defenders or the keeper
Parky's method is designed to accumulate enough points through percentage football. It is sometimes a necessary evil. At other times, it is because the team has run out of options.

Remember that the club is in recovery and is by no means the finsihed article. You demands are somewhat unreasonable at this stage.
what to play proper football:look how Brentford played They pass the ball with pace. Only long kicks by the keeper when under pressure (rarely).
So why should that type of football be beyond City?

As for Hanson going to Blackpool? does the lad not want to improve himself beyond a poor championship team?
Brentford were an established League One outfit. Their squad is much stronger.

Bradford had all on to make it via the play-offs and then had eleven weeks to ensure there was a squad capable of surviving at the higher level.

Transfer business was probably rushed and contract triggers reduced options. Couple that with all the Wembley hype. Parky was not to short of being on a hiding to nothing.
Brentford are also funded by a money bags chairman who has put in significant sums of money like Rothers. It is no coincidence that the clubs with the deepest pockets are in the top few. Peterborough similarly run at a loss and have been for a number of years. Orient buck the trend and show what can be done with sound and sustainable long term planning and in particular sticking with your manager
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tyker7745[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tyker7745[/bold] wrote: the only way we are going to get true attacking football is if we keep it on the ground, play wide man and hit the bye line and get some decent crosses in from good positions. This sadly is not Parky's method! No more hammering the ball forward at 7 foot off the ground from the defenders or the keeper[/p][/quote]Parky's method is designed to accumulate enough points through percentage football. It is sometimes a necessary evil. At other times, it is because the team has run out of options. Remember that the club is in recovery and is by no means the finsihed article. You demands are somewhat unreasonable at this stage.[/p][/quote]what to play proper football:look how Brentford played They pass the ball with pace. Only long kicks by the keeper when under pressure (rarely). So why should that type of football be beyond City? As for Hanson going to Blackpool? does the lad not want to improve himself beyond a poor championship team?[/p][/quote]Brentford were an established League One outfit. Their squad is much stronger. Bradford had all on to make it via the play-offs and then had eleven weeks to ensure there was a squad capable of surviving at the higher level. Transfer business was probably rushed and contract triggers reduced options. Couple that with all the Wembley hype. Parky was not to short of being on a hiding to nothing.[/p][/quote]Brentford are also funded by a money bags chairman who has put in significant sums of money like Rothers. It is no coincidence that the clubs with the deepest pockets are in the top few. Peterborough similarly run at a loss and have been for a number of years. Orient buck the trend and show what can be done with sound and sustainable long term planning and in particular sticking with your manager whisky1
  • Score: 0

8:37pm Wed 14 May 14

garyh1 says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
garyh1 wrote:
Had we bought the ground back instead of paying our chairmans £1 m loan we could have been rent free and in a position to pay back the loan over a period ( instead of rent ) this would have been a much more effective way of spending all the money from the cup run , promotion , TV money BUT we chose to pay the loan ? The nakhi sale went on the playing budget ?
Will it take another cup run in a hundred years to be in a position to build another team that will survive in the championship .
Sorry it still sticks in the throat how we managed last years windfall and letting Gary jones go does not help either !!!!
Who do you refer to when you say "Had we"? Unfortunately, "we" are not the owners of the club.

The respect merits are irrelevant. It was Mark Lawn's prerogative to call in what was owed to him.
I have put my money where my mouth is since 1968 and never once asked for it back sir , I also have the right to question why we the fans have seen no real improvement in the squad since our great year and the sale of nakhi ? By we I mean us the fans should carry on paying indirectly for the ground and why did the club not buy it back when the club had the money ? This would have at least left a good legacy for the future stability of the club ,
and our best captain for god knows how many years has been deemed surplus ........ Does mr lawn just put mr lawn first ? I don't when I buy my season ticket , the MONEY I spend I do not expect back like most others
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garyh1[/bold] wrote: Had we bought the ground back instead of paying our chairmans £1 m loan we could have been rent free and in a position to pay back the loan over a period ( instead of rent ) this would have been a much more effective way of spending all the money from the cup run , promotion , TV money BUT we chose to pay the loan ? The nakhi sale went on the playing budget ? Will it take another cup run in a hundred years to be in a position to build another team that will survive in the championship . Sorry it still sticks in the throat how we managed last years windfall and letting Gary jones go does not help either !!!![/p][/quote]Who do you refer to when you say "Had we"? Unfortunately, "we" are not the owners of the club. The respect merits are irrelevant. It was Mark Lawn's prerogative to call in what was owed to him.[/p][/quote]I have put my money where my mouth is since 1968 and never once asked for it back sir , I also have the right to question why we the fans have seen no real improvement in the squad since our great year and the sale of nakhi ? By we I mean us the fans should carry on paying indirectly for the ground and why did the club not buy it back when the club had the money ? This would have at least left a good legacy for the future stability of the club , and our best captain for god knows how many years has been deemed surplus ........ Does mr lawn just put mr lawn first ? I don't when I buy my season ticket , the MONEY I spend I do not expect back like most others garyh1
  • Score: 3

12:21am Thu 15 May 14

Boing-Boing says...

garyh1 wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
garyh1 wrote:
Had we bought the ground back instead of paying our chairmans £1 m loan we could have been rent free and in a position to pay back the loan over a period ( instead of rent ) this would have been a much more effective way of spending all the money from the cup run , promotion , TV money BUT we chose to pay the loan ? The nakhi sale went on the playing budget ?
Will it take another cup run in a hundred years to be in a position to build another team that will survive in the championship .
Sorry it still sticks in the throat how we managed last years windfall and letting Gary jones go does not help either !!!!
Who do you refer to when you say "Had we"? Unfortunately, "we" are not the owners of the club.

The respect merits are irrelevant. It was Mark Lawn's prerogative to call in what was owed to him.
I have put my money where my mouth is since 1968 and never once asked for it back sir , I also have the right to question why we the fans have seen no real improvement in the squad since our great year and the sale of nakhi ? By we I mean us the fans should carry on paying indirectly for the ground and why did the club not buy it back when the club had the money ? This would have at least left a good legacy for the future stability of the club ,
and our best captain for god knows how many years has been deemed surplus ........ Does mr lawn just put mr lawn first ? I don't when I buy my season ticket , the MONEY I spend I do not expect back like most others
I agree whole heartedly, apart from the ground bought back.
23 years and the only time i missed more than 2/3 home games were the PL days!

It costs the club around 1m per season, it would quite a few more to buy it back. I'm sure if we had the money it would have been bought, considering how many points away from relegation its a good job the nakhi money was added into the seasons playing budget it would have probably seen us relegated back to the depths if it wasn't , that really only leaves the cup run and tv money, its been reported at 2m, whatever it was and I doubt it was that much after costs are added(more games means more costs, ), it wasn't enough to buy VP back.
Here's hoping one day soon we can as its a huge drain on resources we could utilise elsewhere!
[quote][p][bold]garyh1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garyh1[/bold] wrote: Had we bought the ground back instead of paying our chairmans £1 m loan we could have been rent free and in a position to pay back the loan over a period ( instead of rent ) this would have been a much more effective way of spending all the money from the cup run , promotion , TV money BUT we chose to pay the loan ? The nakhi sale went on the playing budget ? Will it take another cup run in a hundred years to be in a position to build another team that will survive in the championship . Sorry it still sticks in the throat how we managed last years windfall and letting Gary jones go does not help either !!!![/p][/quote]Who do you refer to when you say "Had we"? Unfortunately, "we" are not the owners of the club. The respect merits are irrelevant. It was Mark Lawn's prerogative to call in what was owed to him.[/p][/quote]I have put my money where my mouth is since 1968 and never once asked for it back sir , I also have the right to question why we the fans have seen no real improvement in the squad since our great year and the sale of nakhi ? By we I mean us the fans should carry on paying indirectly for the ground and why did the club not buy it back when the club had the money ? This would have at least left a good legacy for the future stability of the club , and our best captain for god knows how many years has been deemed surplus ........ Does mr lawn just put mr lawn first ? I don't when I buy my season ticket , the MONEY I spend I do not expect back like most others[/p][/quote]I agree whole heartedly, apart from the ground bought back. 23 years and the only time i missed more than 2/3 home games were the PL days! It costs the club around 1m per season, it would quite a few more to buy it back. I'm sure if we had the money it would have been bought, considering how many points away from relegation its a good job the nakhi money was added into the seasons playing budget it would have probably seen us relegated back to the depths if it wasn't , that really only leaves the cup run and tv money, its been reported at 2m, whatever it was and I doubt it was that much after costs are added(more games means more costs, ), it wasn't enough to buy VP back. Here's hoping one day soon we can as its a huge drain on resources we could utilise elsewhere! Boing-Boing
  • Score: 1

7:09pm Thu 15 May 14

Michael Clayton says...

garyh1 wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
garyh1 wrote:
Had we bought the ground back instead of paying our chairmans £1 m loan we could have been rent free and in a position to pay back the loan over a period ( instead of rent ) this would have been a much more effective way of spending all the money from the cup run , promotion , TV money BUT we chose to pay the loan ? The nakhi sale went on the playing budget ?
Will it take another cup run in a hundred years to be in a position to build another team that will survive in the championship .
Sorry it still sticks in the throat how we managed last years windfall and letting Gary jones go does not help either !!!!
Who do you refer to when you say "Had we"? Unfortunately, "we" are not the owners of the club.

The respect merits are irrelevant. It was Mark Lawn's prerogative to call in what was owed to him.
I have put my money where my mouth is since 1968 and never once asked for it back sir , I also have the right to question why we the fans have seen no real improvement in the squad since our great year and the sale of nakhi ? By we I mean us the fans should carry on paying indirectly for the ground and why did the club not buy it back when the club had the money ? This would have at least left a good legacy for the future stability of the club ,
and our best captain for god knows how many years has been deemed surplus ........ Does mr lawn just put mr lawn first ? I don't when I buy my season ticket , the MONEY I spend I do not expect back like most others
In attending football matches, you are paying for a product. That is your choice.

But there is a difference between stumping up your cash for 'entertainment' and making a business decision to invest a large sum of capital in a failing business.

Hypothetically, if it was you that had risked £1 million of your own money, I would expect you to be repaid in the same way. Perhaps if Mark Lawn was to walk away tomorrow, it might bring the point home to you?
[quote][p][bold]garyh1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garyh1[/bold] wrote: Had we bought the ground back instead of paying our chairmans £1 m loan we could have been rent free and in a position to pay back the loan over a period ( instead of rent ) this would have been a much more effective way of spending all the money from the cup run , promotion , TV money BUT we chose to pay the loan ? The nakhi sale went on the playing budget ? Will it take another cup run in a hundred years to be in a position to build another team that will survive in the championship . Sorry it still sticks in the throat how we managed last years windfall and letting Gary jones go does not help either !!!![/p][/quote]Who do you refer to when you say "Had we"? Unfortunately, "we" are not the owners of the club. The respect merits are irrelevant. It was Mark Lawn's prerogative to call in what was owed to him.[/p][/quote]I have put my money where my mouth is since 1968 and never once asked for it back sir , I also have the right to question why we the fans have seen no real improvement in the squad since our great year and the sale of nakhi ? By we I mean us the fans should carry on paying indirectly for the ground and why did the club not buy it back when the club had the money ? This would have at least left a good legacy for the future stability of the club , and our best captain for god knows how many years has been deemed surplus ........ Does mr lawn just put mr lawn first ? I don't when I buy my season ticket , the MONEY I spend I do not expect back like most others[/p][/quote]In attending football matches, you are paying for a product. That is your choice. But there is a difference between stumping up your cash for 'entertainment' and making a business decision to invest a large sum of capital in a failing business. Hypothetically, if it was you that had risked £1 million of your own money, I would expect you to be repaid in the same way. Perhaps if Mark Lawn was to walk away tomorrow, it might bring the point home to you? Michael Clayton
  • Score: -2

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