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Full-time: Bradford Bulls 0 St Helens 50

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Ross Heppenstall, Bradford Bulls Reporter

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    mrrl 5:58pm Sun 11 May 14

    Message to marc green worst attack and defence in super league. I don't go to work to spend my hard earnedmoney on that rubbish. Time for a change you might have a fancy title but this is our club. How much more do we have to put up with before you make a stance. If you do it now and we get relegated at least you tried don't leave it until dynamo the magician is needed. Here's a clue taxi for FC and SH.

    Score: -1
    Shipley Paul 5:54pm Sun 11 May 14

    Well beaten in every department by a team with supposedly as many missing players as us. Out enthused from the start. With Wakefield winning it's almost an impossibility to escape relegation now, it's alarming how quickly the bubble of the last 2 weeks has burst. I've rarely experienced such a quiet atmosphere at Odsal too, it seems like resignation has replaced hope as the overall feeling amongst fans.

    Score: 0
    theoutsider 7:00pm Sun 11 May 14

    Were the Bulls on speedway bikes today? coz they couldn't have done worse either way stick an extra S in this! and you get the picture..BULLS HIT!

    Score: -1
    beverleyhills cop returns 5:55pm Sun 11 May 14

    axelf1963 wrote…


    I'm in the money
    weatherspoons tomorrow
    What a joke of a club you really are.

    You should apply for a job at red hall then all the clowns will be in the same post code ps enjoy leigh and Featherstone next year theres another joke

    Score: -5
    pjbull 8:34pm Sun 11 May 14

    We had missing players, so did they. They had 5 (Roby, Walsh, Hohaia, Lomax and Soliola) class players, we didn't have any. I disagree with the "no effort" comments but nor do I see any hope after that. Do you need to be a quality player to have line speed in defence to get in the opponents face? We were so slow doing so. Do you need to be a quality player to be well-organised in attack? Again we were shambolic. Do you have to be a quality player to realise that with so few attacking options and a very strong wind at your back, you might be advised to go for some 40-20 kicks (we didn't try one). Do you have to be a quality player to run hard, fast and straight rather than laterally as too often we did? I simply have no confidence in FC who evidently failed to get any of these messages out. No, we wouldn't ever have won the game but the humiliation would have been lessened. I see no indication that he has much of a clue as a SL Coach - which he will not be next year. Marc Green, at least look like you're not just in it to recoup your loan and act decisively to, at least, make a fight of avoiding relegation.

    Score: 5
    Bowlingboy 5:55pm Sun 11 May 14

    beverleyhills cop returns wrote…


    NG1972 wrote…


    Absolute disgrace clueless no effort come on Mr Green lets see some changes i.e. coaches not good enough. Thats all I have to say.
    Good to see people have forgotten last week already.Lets get real again we only had 2 props ,we had a second rower at stand off a one legged player at scrum half for gods sake what do you expect.To say no effort you have not got a clue.The lads on that field today gave everything they had to defend for long spells yes mistakes were made but when the majority off your play makers are missing and you have a small and depleted squad what do you really want The clowns that are the rfl sent us a ref who really should be doing sunday morning games.We the true will follow are team to the end no matter were that will be COYB KEEP THE FAITH

    I don't agree changes need to be made.
    Pulling off two wins in the scheme of things is ok.
    but you need to compete week in week out.
    you need the squad and the coaching staff to do so.

    Score: 4
    king karl 4:53pm Sun 11 May 14

    Game over now I'm afraid

    We could get 12 points back and still get relagated

    Score: 7
    axelf1963 5:14pm Sun 11 May 14

    I'm in the money
    weatherspoons tomorrow
    What a joke of a club you really are.

    Score: -6
    NG1972 5:22pm Sun 11 May 14

    Absolute disgrace clueless no effort come on Mr Green lets see some changes i.e. coaches not good enough. Thats all I have to say.

    Score: 2
    nosher 5:49pm Sun 11 May 14

    NG1972 wrote…


    Absolute disgrace clueless no effort come on Mr Green lets see some changes i.e. coaches not good enough. Thats all I have to say.

    I agree. Hammered by a St helens team that are also worse than their normal standard kear, gaskill and the big fella did OK. Rest was men against boys. Missed the last 2 games due to work and holidays. Such a shame.

    Score: 0
    beverleyhills cop returns 5:51pm Sun 11 May 14

    NG1972 wrote…


    Absolute disgrace clueless no effort come on Mr Green lets see some changes i.e. coaches not good enough. Thats all I have to say.

    Good to see people have forgotten last week already.Lets get real again we only had 2 props ,we had a second rower at stand off a one legged player at scrum half for gods sake what do you expect.To say no effort you have not got a clue.The lads on that field today gave everything they had to defend for long spells yes mistakes were made but when the majority off your play makers are missing and you have a small and depleted squad what do you really want The clowns that are the rfl sent us a ref who really should be doing sunday morning games.We the true will follow are team to the end no matter were that will be COYB KEEP THE FAITH

    Score: 9
    Paul from Idle 5:59pm Sun 11 May 14

    Very poor turned the ball over at every opportunity, looked very lethargic need a new coach and fresh ideas

    Score: -1
    Redders9606 6:57pm Sun 11 May 14

    Slow, clueless and predictable. Cummins out. And stop playing we will Rock you its embarrassing

    Score: 3
    Mr Tii 7:17pm Sun 11 May 14

    Joke ! Players know they won't be at bulls next season as relegated already , get the kids playing first grade rugby with make a massive difference with regards to bouncing straight back to super league next year .

    Score: 2
    fedupwiththeBS 9:21pm Sun 11 May 14

    On paper we have a set of players that should be mid table at least, as shown by the previous two wins. Today however we were lacking any form of game plan in both attack and defence against a team that were also missing players so there is no excuse for a 50 nil score line.

    I am afraid that we need to get rid of the coaching staff as it is clearly not working; FC has carried the sympathy of the off field activities and poor performance has been put down to that but now?

    He is out of his depth; we could not even resort to plan B as we did not even have a plan A.

    Come on Green, grow some and literally take the Bulls by the Horn; you wanted the Club now do something with it!

    Score: 0
    Ralphie 7:56pm Sun 11 May 14

    Admittedly we were very poor today, but we had 6 players missing plus 3loan players who had been at the club for only a couple of weeks. Added to the fact that we played with only 2 props against a Saints side that had lost only two superleague games this season.
    Can't remember hearing "We will rock you" at the game today!
    Frightening thought tht we will go up against the Giants with only one prop unless we get players back or in on loan.

    Score: 3
    axelf1963 8:02pm Sun 11 May 14

    New song time, Sung to the theme of the old Roy Castle song "Dedication"

    Relegation, Relegation Thats what you need,
    If you wanna be the best
    Give Super League a rest
    Oh yeah relegation thats what you need.

    Thankyou

    Score: 8
    Videoref 8:08pm Sun 11 May 14

    Absolute garbage. We had no attack whatsoever, we stood and watched Walsh & Hohaia and let them run the show. We waited for them to run at us before we tackled them, when we got the ball we either coughed it up, played it with no dummy half or did 5 x 1 man drives followed by a useless kick. We managed to kick out on the full yet couldn't find touch on a penalty. We had a secret gameplan which unfortunately no one told the players about. We were poor in every sector and just gave up after the hour mark.
    some drastic changes needed urgently. Needless to say not wasting my money going to Manchester next week to be a laughing stock

    Score: 2
    Thee Voice of Reason 8:48pm Sun 11 May 14

    In the bottom 2 on merit. Before it's all about the deducted 6 points but the table doesn't lie and it says Bulls points deduction or not are a bottom 2 side.
    Less than 6.5k there today. With that turning up the club doesn't have the funds to bring in the players it needs. Result unfortunately is relegation as the club can't afford to gamble on survival.

    Score: -1
    bradfordbronco 10:30pm Sun 11 May 14

    we had no structure on attack or defence. The players try hard but new coaching ideas are needed asap. As many have stated we did have players missing and we don't have many top players, but a decent coach could get so much more from the players available.

    Just look at what Powell has done with Castleford, a team very similar to us, but playing as a team with good structures when attacking and defending. Our guys are having to make it up on the spot. They should know when its the last tackle who is going to kick and where he is going to kick it to. Saints, Wigan, Leeds, Hudds, Castleford etc all know. Its not just down to quality of players its mainly down to good coaching and practice. Its also one of the reasons why Salford are so disappointing quality players but poor coaching.

    As regards 6,500 that's not bad in this day and age. There's teams playing far better than us who don't attract many more. The sport as a whole is on a downward spiral and losing the Bulls and London and going with just 12 full time clubs isn't going to help matters. The RFL will wake up and realise they can't afford to alienate its supporters, like me, but it will be far too late.

    Score: 3
    raisemeup 11:03pm Sun 11 May 14

    Thee Voice of Reason wrote…


    In the bottom 2 on merit. Before it's all about the deducted 6 points but the table doesn't lie and it says Bulls points deduction or not are a bottom 2 side.
    Less than 6.5k there today. With that turning up the club doesn't have the funds to bring in the players it needs. Result unfortunately is relegation as the club can't afford to gamble on survival.

    You aren't able to judge that are you?
    It's very difficult to offer a judgement when the Bulls have a squad of 28 to Saints 37. We didn't have regular half backs , they had. We were short of Props they had 4.
    They are number 2 in the table. They have experienced internationals in the squad, we have 1 (Wales).,
    So stop your gloating, I can take criticism from a true Bulls supporter, but not from someone who is not a supporter, but a critic who likes to state what we all knew at the final whistle. We were well and truly beaten by a good team who are not short of Players and have no money problems.

    Score: -1
    fedupwiththeBS 5:44am Mon 12 May 14

    raisemeup wrote…


    Thee Voice of Reason wrote…


    In the bottom 2 on merit. Before it's all about the deducted 6 points but the table doesn't lie and it says Bulls points deduction or not are a bottom 2 side.
    Less than 6.5k there today. With that turning up the club doesn't have the funds to bring in the players it needs. Result unfortunately is relegation as the club can't afford to gamble on survival.
    You aren't able to judge that are you?
    It's very difficult to offer a judgement when the Bulls have a squad of 28 to Saints 37. We didn't have regular half backs , they had. We were short of Props they had 4.
    They are number 2 in the table. They have experienced internationals in the squad, we have 1 (Wales).,
    So stop your gloating, I can take criticism from a true Bulls supporter, but not from someone who is not a supporter, but a critic who likes to state what we all knew at the final whistle. We were well and truly beaten by a good team who are not short of Players and have no money problems.

    What money problems? Green had to prove funds to get the Club so we cannot use that excuse any more - unless he is another Khan and is bluffing his case?

    Score: -1
    Bullcity 5:52am Mon 12 May 14

    Sadly just ot good enough because we are not overed in vital areas s n props spare & no half backs spare.
    Small squad , not experienced enough coach, and minus-6 points means we will go down.
    On this prformance we would still be in the bottom 2 anyway.
    Time for action so that when we go on w can come back straight away.
    1. New coach
    2. More players
    3. Finance to fund the above.
    4. I believe te 6000 core fans will stay with the club and so there is at least a base to work from

    Score: 0
    The Fat Lady Sings 6:18am Mon 12 May 14

    The points gained by other clubs means the win to loss ratio over the remaining games is increasing and clearly affecting players. To have been beaten by Saints is not a shock but to be nilled, at home, is. It is no use being a Jekyll and Hyde team and whilst survival is a mathematical probability every player should be playing to achieve that outcome. Even with the 6 points back, our position would not alter yet this was a side that had expectations of a top eight finish. I think Mr Ferris needs another chat with the players before relegation becomes a certainty long before the end of the season. Escape from the Championship will not be as straightforward as some seem to think and "rebuilding" could take years and years. If the players cannot raise their game then the supporters will follow suit. Beating Huddersfield, next week, is vital.

    Score: 1
    bradfordbronco 7:40am Mon 12 May 14

    axelf1963 wrote…


    I'm in the money
    weatherspoons tomorrow
    What a joke of a club you really are.

    and just what odds did the bookies give you on Saints beating the Bulls that you can go on a drinking spree? You'd have been lucky to win £1 on a £10 bet. Had you also put £10 on Catalans and Warrington as you predicted both would also win, you'd now be £30 down to win £1. You really are a genius!

    I don't expect you to tell me what odds you got, I'm still waiting for Oswald777 to get back to me on how much he bet the Bulls wouldn't win another game.

    If you really do spend your days in betting shops and Wetherspons it might explain why your're such a sad weirdo

    Score: 5
    spanglishbull.uk 8:58am Mon 12 May 14

    Axel works at Allied Colloids on shift work.Have a laugh at him,he is a wind up merchant.By the way Axel I will be over in July,meet me in Cue Gardens,we will go and watch the Bulls together.Then I look forward to going in the Players Bar with you and you can tell them to their face they are all useless and should be playing for Wyke.

    Score: 5
    raisemeup 9:27am Mon 12 May 14

    fedupwiththeBS wrote…


    raisemeup wrote…


    Thee Voice of Reason wrote…


    In the bottom 2 on merit. Before it's all about the deducted 6 points but the table doesn't lie and it says Bulls points deduction or not are a bottom 2 side.
    Less than 6.5k there today. With that turning up the club doesn't have the funds to bring in the players it needs. Result unfortunately is relegation as the club can't afford to gamble on survival.
    You aren't able to judge that are you?
    It's very difficult to offer a judgement when the Bulls have a squad of 28 to Saints 37. We didn't have regular half backs , they had. We were short of Props they had 4.
    They are number 2 in the table. They have experienced internationals in the squad, we have 1 (Wales).,
    So stop your gloating, I can take criticism from a true Bulls supporter, but not from someone who is not a supporter, but a critic who likes to state what we all knew at the final whistle. We were well and truly beaten by a good team who are not short of Players and have no money problems.
    What money problems? Green had to prove funds to get the Club so we cannot use that excuse any more - unless he is another Khan and is bluffing his case?

    Read the last para. again? I never said anything about what you were implying in your rebuttal.
    It says:
    We were well and truly beaten by a good team who are not short of Players and have no money problems.
    Where does it say what you seem to use as your argument, I am stating a fact not a reason?

    If you are going to comment get it right first!

    Score: 0
    BCFC LAD says 11:35am Mon 12 May 14

    spanglishbull.uk wrote…


    Axel works at Allied Colloids on shift work.Have a laugh at him,he is a wind up merchant.By the way Axel I will be over in July,meet me in Cue Gardens,we will go and watch the Bulls together.Then I look forward to going in the Players Bar with you and you can tell them to their face they are all useless and should be playing for Wyke.

    Youve made my day. To think he works and pays taxes to help keep me and other Bulls fans in retirement is brilliant. When I go to bed tonight the keyboard warrior will be in the middle of a night shift, now that is sweet. I bet he will have a name change now!! how about Mr Molecule!!
    Pass me a rib Ive cracked one laughing so much.

    Score: 1
    BCFC LAD says 12:20pm Mon 12 May 14

    axelf1963 wrote…


    Bcfc Viking I come in peace, since my new friend Spangles told me who you were I have decided to leave you alone, Hope you rib
    ps I had saints to who by more than 30 so nice pick up thanks.

    Sorry Mr Molecule Im not Viking but you keep doing the shifts for us.

    Score: -1
    axelf1963 12:08pm Mon 12 May 14

    Bcfc Viking I come in peace, since my new friend Spangles told me who you were I have decided to leave you alone, Hope you rib
    ps I had saints to who by more than 30 so nice pick up thanks.

    Score: 0
    axelf1963 12:56pm Mon 12 May 14

    And I don't work there so we are both wrong x

    Score: 1
    spanglishbull.uk 1:19pm Mon 12 May 14

    Ask Nosher and young Gus.

    Score: -1
    axelf1963 2:17pm Mon 12 May 14

    Wrong Spangles although I do know them both.
    Hope you are well my friend.

    Score: 1
    spanglishbull.uk 3:36pm Mon 12 May 14

    Axel,
    I have lots of friends at Colloids.in Low Moor and Wyke.I am on your case although when I find out I will not name you on here.L.O.L.

    Score: 1
    axelf1963 6:44pm Mon 12 May 14

    We can just agree to disagree Spangles in fact who knows in time you may invite me over to your Spanish abode for cocktails.

    Score: 0

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