Survival still in our own hands, Phil Parkinson tells his below-par Bradford City players

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Phil Parkinson shows his dismay as Oldham add to their goal tally against City Phil Parkinson shows his dismay as Oldham add to their goal tally against City

Phil Parkinson today picked up the pieces from City’s latest Valley Parade flop and reminded them: League One safety is still in our hands.

Saturday’s third loss in the last four home games has left them on the fringes of the fight for survival.

City remain in 12th spot but the 3-2 defeat to Oldham and wins for other teams at the foot of the table cut the gap once again to the bottom four to six points – although they do possess a vastly-superior goal difference.

But with play-off contenders Rotherham and Peterborough their next two opponents, Parkinson’s side are far from clear of danger.

Parkinson knew City could have secured survival with a win at the weekend but stressed that they only have to worry about themselves in the final five games.

And he still believes the team are capable of finishing in their position in the top half.

He said: “We’ve just got to take care of ourselves. It’s still very much in our hands. We’ve got a better goal difference than a lot of teams and we’ve got a six-point gap.

“We want to get some more points on the board irrespective of that. We want to finish in the top half of the table. There was a chance to put it to bed on Saturday but we didn’t take it.

“Every time we get a win, everyone keeps talking about next year and safety. I don’t because I know what can happen in football.

“Teams do get results when you don’t expect them, like when we won at Orient. That’s what has happened across the board.”

City’s collapsing form at Valley Parade has become a major concern. After two impressive away performances, they struggled to get going on home turf just like the recent Walsall game.

“There’s a bit of tentativeness in our play at home and we’ve got to get that confidence back,” said Parkinson.

“It was always going to be difficult when Oldham scored first. They had the extra man in midfield which gave them control of the game and we didn’t cope with that.

“We changed it just before half-time to put (Kyle) Bennett in there but for the second half I kept two up front. In hindsight, I should have tightened up midfield because we looked leggy.”

Parkinson admitted that City lacked energy against a relegation-battling side who are now only two points behind them.

He took the blame for keeping faith with the same players for three games in a week. Adam Drury’s return from injury at left back for Carl McHugh, who had been playing through a slight hip problem, was the only change.

The City boss said: “I’ve got to look at myself. I’ve asked the same players to go again and we didn’t look as though we had any sharpness.

“I picked the team and we haven’t performed as well as we can. We haven’t got a great deal of options but three games in seven days can be a big ask, especially when you’ve got some who aren’t used to playing back-to-back.

“We’d played well on our travels, particularly defensively, and looked as good as we had all season. But we were vulnerable on Saturday, which is unlike us.

“We were second best all over the pitch and I’ve got to make sure that doesn’t happen again.”

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8:06am Mon 7 Apr 14

Bantam22 says...

How many more times are we going to here the same excuses from PP?Every time a side come to VP and play with 5 in midfield we hear the same "we will have to concede the majority of possession" it does not work Phil,please try something different so we play with the ball instead of relying on 2 wingers or long ball to the front man and hoping to pick up scraps.The Valley Parade faithfull who have backed you to the hilt are becomimg restless with the negative tactics we have to endure at the moment.We have been on a rollarcoaster for the last 2 seasons and have endured some of the best moments that any City fan will ever have so please don't spoil the memories Phil with these mundane tactics.
How many more times are we going to here the same excuses from PP?Every time a side come to VP and play with 5 in midfield we hear the same "we will have to concede the majority of possession" it does not work Phil,please try something different so we play with the ball instead of relying on 2 wingers or long ball to the front man and hoping to pick up scraps.The Valley Parade faithfull who have backed you to the hilt are becomimg restless with the negative tactics we have to endure at the moment.We have been on a rollarcoaster for the last 2 seasons and have endured some of the best moments that any City fan will ever have so please don't spoil the memories Phil with these mundane tactics. Bantam22
  • Score: 11

8:34am Mon 7 Apr 14

mrmuzzy says...

We will stay up.
massive overhaul of squad needed.
time for chairman to back him or fetch somebody else in.
We will stay up. massive overhaul of squad needed. time for chairman to back him or fetch somebody else in. mrmuzzy
  • Score: 11

8:42am Mon 7 Apr 14

allannicho says...

Something is wrong somewhere?
Something is wrong somewhere? allannicho
  • Score: 3

8:43am Mon 7 Apr 14

eccleshilllad says...

We knew they were going to play 5 in midfield and we can never comat it ennet was totally ineffective and should have een changed at half instead he carrys on and gives the third goal away ,sorry pp simple as ad tactics
We knew they were going to play 5 in midfield and we can never comat it ennet was totally ineffective and should have een changed at half instead he carrys on and gives the third goal away ,sorry pp simple as ad tactics eccleshilllad
  • Score: -4

8:57am Mon 7 Apr 14

SouthCheshireBantams says...

Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade!
Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade! SouthCheshireBantams
  • Score: -30

9:11am Mon 7 Apr 14

whisky1 says...

SouthCheshireBantams wrote:
Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade!
Well done...the success last season had nothing to do with PP but this seasons "failure" does...impeccable logic. Talk about an overreaction. Yes recruitment in one period was questionable and yes he does need to think about how he approaches games at home tactically. The first manager this century to arrest terminal decline. No perspective ..no loyalty.
[quote][p][bold]SouthCheshireBantams[/bold] wrote: Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade![/p][/quote]Well done...the success last season had nothing to do with PP but this seasons "failure" does...impeccable logic. Talk about an overreaction. Yes recruitment in one period was questionable and yes he does need to think about how he approaches games at home tactically. The first manager this century to arrest terminal decline. No perspective ..no loyalty. whisky1
  • Score: 32

9:13am Mon 7 Apr 14

bcfc1903 says...

BCFC are inconsistent like 90% of the teams in this league. Regarding next season, I'd put BCFC fans back in the Bradford End for starters. The club changed the whole dynamic of the ground by putting away fans back in the Bradford End, a serious mistake on the back of the clubs most successful season in living memory. Let's start by putting that right next season.
BCFC are inconsistent like 90% of the teams in this league. Regarding next season, I'd put BCFC fans back in the Bradford End for starters. The club changed the whole dynamic of the ground by putting away fans back in the Bradford End, a serious mistake on the back of the clubs most successful season in living memory. Let's start by putting that right next season. bcfc1903
  • Score: 25

9:15am Mon 7 Apr 14

dazp says...

Survival still in our own hands, Phil Parkinson tells his below-par Bradford City players

that is whats worrying the fans
Survival still in our own hands, Phil Parkinson tells his below-par Bradford City players that is whats worrying the fans dazp
  • Score: 1

9:19am Mon 7 Apr 14

spleen ventor says...

More flapping from the headless chicken brigade....where were you all last week!
Darby, Davies,McArdle,Mered
ith,Thompson,Doyle,J
ones,Reid...all "dreadful signings" by Parkinson....don't talk $hite!
The squad dosn't lack ability, I've been lucky enough to see all our away wins and have seen it for myself on numerous occasions, what we lacked Saturday was effort...Oldham worked harder and wanted it more...if we'd shown the same effort as we'd shown at Orient the week before we'd have won comfortably.
'Flip-flop' football we called it at half time...the players were already on the beach in their flip-flops!
More flapping from the headless chicken brigade....where were you all last week! Darby, Davies,McArdle,Mered ith,Thompson,Doyle,J ones,Reid...all "dreadful signings" by Parkinson....don't talk $hite! The squad dosn't lack ability, I've been lucky enough to see all our away wins and have seen it for myself on numerous occasions, what we lacked Saturday was effort...Oldham worked harder and wanted it more...if we'd shown the same effort as we'd shown at Orient the week before we'd have won comfortably. 'Flip-flop' football we called it at half time...the players were already on the beach in their flip-flops! spleen ventor
  • Score: 17

9:26am Mon 7 Apr 14

Baildonbantam says...

SouthCheshireBantams wrote:
Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade!
PP actually got Colchester promoted from league 1, and to say PP had nothing to do with the promotion last year........are you on crack?
[quote][p][bold]SouthCheshireBantams[/bold] wrote: Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade![/p][/quote]PP actually got Colchester promoted from league 1, and to say PP had nothing to do with the promotion last year........are you on crack? Baildonbantam
  • Score: 25

9:38am Mon 7 Apr 14

bradvilla says...

Some people on here need to take a long hard look at themselves!
Some people on here need to take a long hard look at themselves! bradvilla
  • Score: 19

9:48am Mon 7 Apr 14

bantam10 says...

allannicho wrote:
Something is wrong somewhere?
Wanna know what's wrong? You got players like Mc Clean and Gray on big wages. More than anybody else and doing a poor job for their worth.
How would you feel if at your work somebody doing same job as you was rubbish and not doing very well but was on more money than you?
I know I would not be happy. Even Davis looked like he could not be bothered the other day.
[quote][p][bold]allannicho[/bold] wrote: Something is wrong somewhere?[/p][/quote]Wanna know what's wrong? You got players like Mc Clean and Gray on big wages. More than anybody else and doing a poor job for their worth. How would you feel if at your work somebody doing same job as you was rubbish and not doing very well but was on more money than you? I know I would not be happy. Even Davis looked like he could not be bothered the other day. bantam10
  • Score: 1

9:49am Mon 7 Apr 14

macca1969 says...

SouthCheshireBantams wrote:
Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade!
If you are going to post get your facts correct. Firstly he gained promotion from this division with Colchester as he had back to back promotions. Also he managed hull in the championship not league 1. He did however manage Charlton in this division and in his first season finished 6th losing in the play offs. He struggled the following season as many play off teams do and was sacked
[quote][p][bold]SouthCheshireBantams[/bold] wrote: Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade![/p][/quote]If you are going to post get your facts correct. Firstly he gained promotion from this division with Colchester as he had back to back promotions. Also he managed hull in the championship not league 1. He did however manage Charlton in this division and in his first season finished 6th losing in the play offs. He struggled the following season as many play off teams do and was sacked macca1969
  • Score: 11

9:53am Mon 7 Apr 14

macca1969 says...

bantam10 wrote:
allannicho wrote:
Something is wrong somewhere?
Wanna know what's wrong? You got players like Mc Clean and Gray on big wages. More than anybody else and doing a poor job for their worth.
How would you feel if at your work somebody doing same job as you was rubbish and not doing very well but was on more money than you?
I know I would not be happy. Even Davis looked like he could not be bothered the other day.
Even Davies looked like he couldn't be bothered the other day? You do realise that contradicts your point as he is the clubs highest earner!!
[quote][p][bold]bantam10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allannicho[/bold] wrote: Something is wrong somewhere?[/p][/quote]Wanna know what's wrong? You got players like Mc Clean and Gray on big wages. More than anybody else and doing a poor job for their worth. How would you feel if at your work somebody doing same job as you was rubbish and not doing very well but was on more money than you? I know I would not be happy. Even Davis looked like he could not be bothered the other day.[/p][/quote]Even Davies looked like he couldn't be bothered the other day? You do realise that contradicts your point as he is the clubs highest earner!! macca1969
  • Score: 3

10:05am Mon 7 Apr 14

bahamianbantam says...

A few years ago we were top of the league under SM and we played Bournemouth who had an aged Darren Anderton pulling the strings in a 4-5-1 formation - we were stuffed 3-1. Ever since when we play against a side deploying the same formation - the same happens. Essentially we are playing on old 4-2-4 so it's no surprise that we get totally dominated in midfield and have to play hoof ball. I am a fan of Hanson but unfortunately we will get nowhere with him leading the line - PP has no tactical nous - I groaned when on Friday he said Oldham would play 4-5-1 and we could counter it - just like we did against Stevenage and Walsall!
Swansea sacked Laudrup a few months after his historic victory - I guess we just cannot afford a £500k pay off. It is so sad and nobody wanted it to go this way but isn't it time we invested in a winning manager - one on the way up - Shaun warned us all - "deadbeat" is an apt description. Oh and all those saying we weren't shouting after Orient and Coventry - the first result was clearly a fluke against a team struggling for form and we should have buried a very poor Coventry side. The win at Colchester was against a very very poor team. 28 points from 31 matches = relegation, our few wins in those matches have hardly been comfortable and we are now turning draws into defeats. 1 pt from last 12 at home. What a mess!
A few years ago we were top of the league under SM and we played Bournemouth who had an aged Darren Anderton pulling the strings in a 4-5-1 formation - we were stuffed 3-1. Ever since when we play against a side deploying the same formation - the same happens. Essentially we are playing on old 4-2-4 so it's no surprise that we get totally dominated in midfield and have to play hoof ball. I am a fan of Hanson but unfortunately we will get nowhere with him leading the line - PP has no tactical nous - I groaned when on Friday he said Oldham would play 4-5-1 and we could counter it - just like we did against Stevenage and Walsall! Swansea sacked Laudrup a few months after his historic victory - I guess we just cannot afford a £500k pay off. It is so sad and nobody wanted it to go this way but isn't it time we invested in a winning manager - one on the way up - Shaun warned us all - "deadbeat" is an apt description. Oh and all those saying we weren't shouting after Orient and Coventry - the first result was clearly a fluke against a team struggling for form and we should have buried a very poor Coventry side. The win at Colchester was against a very very poor team. 28 points from 31 matches = relegation, our few wins in those matches have hardly been comfortable and we are now turning draws into defeats. 1 pt from last 12 at home. What a mess! bahamianbantam
  • Score: -4

10:22am Mon 7 Apr 14

Peter300 says...

Bantam22 wrote:
How many more times are we going to here the same excuses from PP?Every time a side come to VP and play with 5 in midfield we hear the same "we will have to concede the majority of possession" it does not work Phil,please try something different so we play with the ball instead of relying on 2 wingers or long ball to the front man and hoping to pick up scraps.The Valley Parade faithfull who have backed you to the hilt are becomimg restless with the negative tactics we have to endure at the moment.We have been on a rollarcoaster for the last 2 seasons and have endured some of the best moments that any City fan will ever have so please don't spoil the memories Phil with these mundane tactics.
You have just contradicted yourself there. To accuse the manager of playing negative tactics on Saturday is just plain stupid. Yet if he was to play the extra man in midfield people like you will be the first on his back. Your mish-mash posting makes that abundantly clear. It is completely ludicrous to ask the team to play football then jump on their back as soon as they pass the ball. Lazy people come on here and have the bare-faced cheek to acuse Phil of one dimensional football. Yet when the team try to pass the ball and build-up play they have the same clueless individuals demanding the ball is passed into a wall of opposition players. You would never trust these people to manage a football team.
[quote][p][bold]Bantam22[/bold] wrote: How many more times are we going to here the same excuses from PP?Every time a side come to VP and play with 5 in midfield we hear the same "we will have to concede the majority of possession" it does not work Phil,please try something different so we play with the ball instead of relying on 2 wingers or long ball to the front man and hoping to pick up scraps.The Valley Parade faithfull who have backed you to the hilt are becomimg restless with the negative tactics we have to endure at the moment.We have been on a rollarcoaster for the last 2 seasons and have endured some of the best moments that any City fan will ever have so please don't spoil the memories Phil with these mundane tactics.[/p][/quote]You have just contradicted yourself there. To accuse the manager of playing negative tactics on Saturday is just plain stupid. Yet if he was to play the extra man in midfield people like you will be the first on his back. Your mish-mash posting makes that abundantly clear. It is completely ludicrous to ask the team to play football then jump on their back as soon as they pass the ball. Lazy people come on here and have the bare-faced cheek to acuse Phil of one dimensional football. Yet when the team try to pass the ball and build-up play they have the same clueless individuals demanding the ball is passed into a wall of opposition players. You would never trust these people to manage a football team. Peter300
  • Score: 3

10:23am Mon 7 Apr 14

Peter300 says...

mrmuzzy wrote:
We will stay up.
massive overhaul of squad needed.
time for chairman to back him or fetch somebody else in.
And yet City are currently half way up the table. Credit to the players really. Especially those who were here last season.
[quote][p][bold]mrmuzzy[/bold] wrote: We will stay up. massive overhaul of squad needed. time for chairman to back him or fetch somebody else in.[/p][/quote]And yet City are currently half way up the table. Credit to the players really. Especially those who were here last season. Peter300
  • Score: 4

10:26am Mon 7 Apr 14

Peter300 says...

eccleshilllad wrote:
We knew they were going to play 5 in midfield and we can never comat it ennet was totally ineffective and should have een changed at half instead he carrys on and gives the third goal away ,sorry pp simple as ad tactics
Please translate into English. Thank you.
[quote][p][bold]eccleshilllad[/bold] wrote: We knew they were going to play 5 in midfield and we can never comat it ennet was totally ineffective and should have een changed at half instead he carrys on and gives the third goal away ,sorry pp simple as ad tactics[/p][/quote]Please translate into English. Thank you. Peter300
  • Score: 9

10:34am Mon 7 Apr 14

wakefieldbantam says...

I really think PP is now struggling and I have grave doubts about how we will get on next season with him recruiting in the summer. PP's post match interview on the Pulse absolutely nailed it, he said we were overrun in midfield and could not cope with their winger, so if he knows where its going wrong WHY didn't he do something tactical to change it! Why not bolster the midfield and double up on their winger they way other teams do it to us!
I think we will stay up by grinding out couple of draws but I will be very worried if we have to go to Tranmere needing a point!
I really think PP is now struggling and I have grave doubts about how we will get on next season with him recruiting in the summer. PP's post match interview on the Pulse absolutely nailed it, he said we were overrun in midfield and could not cope with their winger, so if he knows where its going wrong WHY didn't he do something tactical to change it! Why not bolster the midfield and double up on their winger they way other teams do it to us! I think we will stay up by grinding out couple of draws but I will be very worried if we have to go to Tranmere needing a point! wakefieldbantam
  • Score: 4

10:35am Mon 7 Apr 14

Peter300 says...

SouthCheshireBantams wrote:
Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade!
Well, for me I would not want you anywhere near the decision making process at City either on or off the field. Overall I believe Phil and the team have performed pretty well so far. The team are currently half way up the table. You could do yourself a favour by getting your facts right. On the other hand, the above suggests that factual content is not something of interest to you.
[quote][p][bold]SouthCheshireBantams[/bold] wrote: Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade![/p][/quote]Well, for me I would not want you anywhere near the decision making process at City either on or off the field. Overall I believe Phil and the team have performed pretty well so far. The team are currently half way up the table. You could do yourself a favour by getting your facts right. On the other hand, the above suggests that factual content is not something of interest to you. Peter300
  • Score: 6

10:36am Mon 7 Apr 14

Peter300 says...

dazp wrote:
Survival still in our own hands, Phil Parkinson tells his below-par Bradford City players

that is whats worrying the fans
Its apparently worrying you.
[quote][p][bold]dazp[/bold] wrote: Survival still in our own hands, Phil Parkinson tells his below-par Bradford City players that is whats worrying the fans[/p][/quote]Its apparently worrying you. Peter300
  • Score: 0

10:44am Mon 7 Apr 14

Peter300 says...

spleen ventor wrote:
More flapping from the headless chicken brigade....where were you all last week!
Darby, Davies,McArdle,Mered

ith,Thompson,Doyle,J

ones,Reid...all "dreadful signings" by Parkinson....don't talk $hite!
The squad dosn't lack ability, I've been lucky enough to see all our away wins and have seen it for myself on numerous occasions, what we lacked Saturday was effort...Oldham worked harder and wanted it more...if we'd shown the same effort as we'd shown at Orient the week before we'd have won comfortably.
'Flip-flop' football we called it at half time...the players were already on the beach in their flip-flops!
Oldham did the job. But they obviously cannot produce that performance every week. There is very little to separate most of the teams in a very competitive division. Of course, if City were to start playing at home with the extra midfielder, the very same critics who are posting today will then start accusing the manager of resorting to negative football. These people call Phil a clown and clueless, but personally I think these words more accurately reflect some of people who are criticising the manager.
[quote][p][bold]spleen ventor[/bold] wrote: More flapping from the headless chicken brigade....where were you all last week! Darby, Davies,McArdle,Mered ith,Thompson,Doyle,J ones,Reid...all "dreadful signings" by Parkinson....don't talk $hite! The squad dosn't lack ability, I've been lucky enough to see all our away wins and have seen it for myself on numerous occasions, what we lacked Saturday was effort...Oldham worked harder and wanted it more...if we'd shown the same effort as we'd shown at Orient the week before we'd have won comfortably. 'Flip-flop' football we called it at half time...the players were already on the beach in their flip-flops![/p][/quote]Oldham did the job. But they obviously cannot produce that performance every week. There is very little to separate most of the teams in a very competitive division. Of course, if City were to start playing at home with the extra midfielder, the very same critics who are posting today will then start accusing the manager of resorting to negative football. These people call Phil a clown and clueless, but personally I think these words more accurately reflect some of people who are criticising the manager. Peter300
  • Score: 10

11:03am Mon 7 Apr 14

lawsonio123 says...

Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job lawsonio123
  • Score: 5

11:05am Mon 7 Apr 14

Bradford Lad BD9 says...

SouthCheshireBantams wrote:
Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade!
I couldn't put it any better
[quote][p][bold]SouthCheshireBantams[/bold] wrote: Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade![/p][/quote]I couldn't put it any better Bradford Lad BD9
  • Score: -7

11:09am Mon 7 Apr 14

whisky1 says...

Bradford Lad BD9 wrote:
SouthCheshireBantams wrote:
Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade!
I couldn't put it any better
You cant get basic facts reet either then
[quote][p][bold]Bradford Lad BD9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthCheshireBantams[/bold] wrote: Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade![/p][/quote]I couldn't put it any better[/p][/quote]You cant get basic facts reet either then whisky1
  • Score: 5

11:13am Mon 7 Apr 14

Bradford Lad BD9 says...

bahamianbantam wrote:
A few years ago we were top of the league under SM and we played Bournemouth who had an aged Darren Anderton pulling the strings in a 4-5-1 formation - we were stuffed 3-1. Ever since when we play against a side deploying the same formation - the same happens. Essentially we are playing on old 4-2-4 so it's no surprise that we get totally dominated in midfield and have to play hoof ball. I am a fan of Hanson but unfortunately we will get nowhere with him leading the line - PP has no tactical nous - I groaned when on Friday he said Oldham would play 4-5-1 and we could counter it - just like we did against Stevenage and Walsall!
Swansea sacked Laudrup a few months after his historic victory - I guess we just cannot afford a £500k pay off. It is so sad and nobody wanted it to go this way but isn't it time we invested in a winning manager - one on the way up - Shaun warned us all - "deadbeat" is an apt description. Oh and all those saying we weren't shouting after Orient and Coventry - the first result was clearly a fluke against a team struggling for form and we should have buried a very poor Coventry side. The win at Colchester was against a very very poor team. 28 points from 31 matches = relegation, our few wins in those matches have hardly been comfortable and we are now turning draws into defeats. 1 pt from last 12 at home. What a mess!
Well said good facts
[quote][p][bold]bahamianbantam[/bold] wrote: A few years ago we were top of the league under SM and we played Bournemouth who had an aged Darren Anderton pulling the strings in a 4-5-1 formation - we were stuffed 3-1. Ever since when we play against a side deploying the same formation - the same happens. Essentially we are playing on old 4-2-4 so it's no surprise that we get totally dominated in midfield and have to play hoof ball. I am a fan of Hanson but unfortunately we will get nowhere with him leading the line - PP has no tactical nous - I groaned when on Friday he said Oldham would play 4-5-1 and we could counter it - just like we did against Stevenage and Walsall! Swansea sacked Laudrup a few months after his historic victory - I guess we just cannot afford a £500k pay off. It is so sad and nobody wanted it to go this way but isn't it time we invested in a winning manager - one on the way up - Shaun warned us all - "deadbeat" is an apt description. Oh and all those saying we weren't shouting after Orient and Coventry - the first result was clearly a fluke against a team struggling for form and we should have buried a very poor Coventry side. The win at Colchester was against a very very poor team. 28 points from 31 matches = relegation, our few wins in those matches have hardly been comfortable and we are now turning draws into defeats. 1 pt from last 12 at home. What a mess![/p][/quote]Well said good facts Bradford Lad BD9
  • Score: 0

11:24am Mon 7 Apr 14

Bradford Lad BD9 says...

Like i have said all along at the end of the season get rid of parky, Coz you wont wanna give him money in the summer to get new players in as he likes to recruit over 30's flops, When your time is up, your time is up parky, SIMPLE
Like i have said all along at the end of the season get rid of parky, Coz you wont wanna give him money in the summer to get new players in as he likes to recruit over 30's flops, When your time is up, your time is up parky, SIMPLE Bradford Lad BD9
  • Score: -11

11:37am Mon 7 Apr 14

Statler4 says...

SouthCheshireBantams wrote:
Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade!
Regarding the tiredness in the playes after playing three games in a week and your assertion that it's funny we had no issues last year. Last year the players had all been at the club for a long time and Nick Allamby had them at a pitch of superfitness that few other clubs could match. This year, at this point, we have new players who need to be built up to the necessary level of fitness and others who are not firing on all cylinders because of niggling injuries and illness. Also, this league is much tougher than the one we were in last year when our players were technically the best in the division. Expectations have been far too high this season, the aim should have been fifth from bottom from the start, then a push for promotion in 2014/15, which is the way it's likely to work out anyway. As for tempting McCall back, that's a non starter since he's likely to be in the running for the Scotland job soon. Billy Davies and Martin Allen are forever getting appointed to jobs and being sacked a few months later - Parkinson is infinitely superior to both.
[quote][p][bold]SouthCheshireBantams[/bold] wrote: Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade![/p][/quote]Regarding the tiredness in the playes after playing three games in a week and your assertion that it's funny we had no issues last year. Last year the players had all been at the club for a long time and Nick Allamby had them at a pitch of superfitness that few other clubs could match. This year, at this point, we have new players who need to be built up to the necessary level of fitness and others who are not firing on all cylinders because of niggling injuries and illness. Also, this league is much tougher than the one we were in last year when our players were technically the best in the division. Expectations have been far too high this season, the aim should have been fifth from bottom from the start, then a push for promotion in 2014/15, which is the way it's likely to work out anyway. As for tempting McCall back, that's a non starter since he's likely to be in the running for the Scotland job soon. Billy Davies and Martin Allen are forever getting appointed to jobs and being sacked a few months later - Parkinson is infinitely superior to both. Statler4
  • Score: 12

11:47am Mon 7 Apr 14

northyorksbantam says...

SouthCheshireBantams wrote:
Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade!
I think I need to answer your questioning of Parky's touchline demeanor during matches.....I do see Parky on the touch line every home match from not that far away, he is very animated and vocal. Whether it be to his players (he very regularly puts instructions out during the match or drinks breaks), the lino, the ref or 4th official (I have often thought he really pushes the boundaries during matches with the officials).

If during the time when he is doing the other part of his job... watching the match and not shouting theres probably quite a lot going through his mind, what do you want him to do with his arms and why is it relevant if there folded or in his pockets? Parky like all managers has his own way during matches, unless he puts his umbrella up I don't have a problem with that.
[quote][p][bold]SouthCheshireBantams[/bold] wrote: Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade![/p][/quote]I think I need to answer your questioning of Parky's touchline demeanor during matches.....I do see Parky on the touch line every home match from not that far away, he is very animated and vocal. Whether it be to his players (he very regularly puts instructions out during the match or drinks breaks), the lino, the ref or 4th official (I have often thought he really pushes the boundaries during matches with the officials). If during the time when he is doing the other part of his job... watching the match and not shouting theres probably quite a lot going through his mind, what do you want him to do with his arms and why is it relevant if there folded or in his pockets? Parky like all managers has his own way during matches, unless he puts his umbrella up I don't have a problem with that. northyorksbantam
  • Score: 13

11:50am Mon 7 Apr 14

whisky1 says...

Bradford Lad BD9 wrote:
Like i have said all along at the end of the season get rid of parky, Coz you wont wanna give him money in the summer to get new players in as he likes to recruit over 30's flops, When your time is up, your time is up parky, SIMPLE
I think you will find he is still here in the summer and saner heads will be making the decision not you. Fortunately we have owners with patience who have given all their appointments a fair crack of the whip. Stability is the key to progress. He has not got everything right (who Has) but he is the best thing that has happened to this club since we lost Jagger.
[quote][p][bold]Bradford Lad BD9[/bold] wrote: Like i have said all along at the end of the season get rid of parky, Coz you wont wanna give him money in the summer to get new players in as he likes to recruit over 30's flops, When your time is up, your time is up parky, SIMPLE[/p][/quote]I think you will find he is still here in the summer and saner heads will be making the decision not you. Fortunately we have owners with patience who have given all their appointments a fair crack of the whip. Stability is the key to progress. He has not got everything right (who Has) but he is the best thing that has happened to this club since we lost Jagger. whisky1
  • Score: 14

11:59am Mon 7 Apr 14

s.b.c says...

Mr Parkinson,
I would be interested to know what you & you're coaching staff do at the training ground each week, it can't have anything to do with the actual game of football because the team does not play any..
I can see better on most park pitches on a Sunday morning than the rubbish & it is rubbish that that you're team is giving its loyal supporters.most matches.

Mr Parkinson,
Signings . Not one player you have signed for this season has improved the team apart from Adam Reach. Mark Yeats had a superb first game against Carlisle but has since slowly disapeared into oblivion.

Mr Parkinson,
Last season on the way to Wembley, City played extremely well, although both Arsenal & Villa played as badly as they have ever played . They were there for the taking taking..
Wembley, not having a direct shot at goal for 83 minutes is indicative of the negative way you send out you're teams to play.

Mr Parkinson,
Having signed a three year contract, the board will probably find it financially difficult to terminate it.

I would prefer it if you did the right thing & resigned as in my opinion you are taking this club on a downward spiral with no idea how to reverse it.

I for one have had enough of the long ball rubbish being played. The blame is in you're court.
Mr Parkinson, I would be interested to know what you & you're coaching staff do at the training ground each week, it can't have anything to do with the actual game of football because the team does not play any.. I can see better on most park pitches on a Sunday morning than the rubbish & it is rubbish that that you're team is giving its loyal supporters.most matches. Mr Parkinson, Signings . Not one player you have signed for this season has improved the team apart from Adam Reach. Mark Yeats had a superb first game against Carlisle but has since slowly disapeared into oblivion. Mr Parkinson, Last season on the way to Wembley, City played extremely well, although both Arsenal & Villa played as badly as they have ever played . They were there for the taking taking.. Wembley, not having a direct shot at goal for 83 minutes is indicative of the negative way you send out you're teams to play. Mr Parkinson, Having signed a three year contract, the board will probably find it financially difficult to terminate it. I would prefer it if you did the right thing & resigned as in my opinion you are taking this club on a downward spiral with no idea how to reverse it. I for one have had enough of the long ball rubbish being played. The blame is in you're court. s.b.c
  • Score: -17

12:11pm Mon 7 Apr 14

gordon ramsay says...

spleen ventor wrote:
More flapping from the headless chicken brigade....where were you all last week! Darby, Davies,McArdle,Mered ith,Thompson,Doyle,J ones,Reid...all "dreadful signings" by Parkinson....don't talk $hite! The squad dosn't lack ability, I've been lucky enough to see all our away wins and have seen it for myself on numerous occasions, what we lacked Saturday was effort...Oldham worked harder and wanted it more...if we'd shown the same effort as we'd shown at Orient the week before we'd have won comfortably. 'Flip-flop' football we called it at half time...the players were already on the beach in their flip-flops!
Parky's recruitment throughout 2013, starting with Gray and ending with Shirley McLean has been terrible.

A sensible debate around whether Parky can be trusted with he inevitable rebuilding job is fair one for any intelleient poster.
[quote][p][bold]spleen ventor[/bold] wrote: More flapping from the headless chicken brigade....where were you all last week! Darby, Davies,McArdle,Mered ith,Thompson,Doyle,J ones,Reid...all "dreadful signings" by Parkinson....don't talk $hite! The squad dosn't lack ability, I've been lucky enough to see all our away wins and have seen it for myself on numerous occasions, what we lacked Saturday was effort...Oldham worked harder and wanted it more...if we'd shown the same effort as we'd shown at Orient the week before we'd have won comfortably. 'Flip-flop' football we called it at half time...the players were already on the beach in their flip-flops![/p][/quote]Parky's recruitment throughout 2013, starting with Gray and ending with Shirley McLean has been terrible. A sensible debate around whether Parky can be trusted with he inevitable rebuilding job is fair one for any intelleient poster. gordon ramsay
  • Score: 6

12:26pm Mon 7 Apr 14

whisky1 says...

s.b.c wrote:
Mr Parkinson,
I would be interested to know what you & you're coaching staff do at the training ground each week, it can't have anything to do with the actual game of football because the team does not play any..
I can see better on most park pitches on a Sunday morning than the rubbish & it is rubbish that that you're team is giving its loyal supporters.most matches.

Mr Parkinson,
Signings . Not one player you have signed for this season has improved the team apart from Adam Reach. Mark Yeats had a superb first game against Carlisle but has since slowly disapeared into oblivion.

Mr Parkinson,
Last season on the way to Wembley, City played extremely well, although both Arsenal & Villa played as badly as they have ever played . They were there for the taking taking..
Wembley, not having a direct shot at goal for 83 minutes is indicative of the negative way you send out you're teams to play.

Mr Parkinson,
Having signed a three year contract, the board will probably find it financially difficult to terminate it.

I would prefer it if you did the right thing & resigned as in my opinion you are taking this club on a downward spiral with no idea how to reverse it.

I for one have had enough of the long ball rubbish being played. The blame is in you're court.
1st promotion since 99 and we are on a downward spiral this thread just gets better
[quote][p][bold]s.b.c[/bold] wrote: Mr Parkinson, I would be interested to know what you & you're coaching staff do at the training ground each week, it can't have anything to do with the actual game of football because the team does not play any.. I can see better on most park pitches on a Sunday morning than the rubbish & it is rubbish that that you're team is giving its loyal supporters.most matches. Mr Parkinson, Signings . Not one player you have signed for this season has improved the team apart from Adam Reach. Mark Yeats had a superb first game against Carlisle but has since slowly disapeared into oblivion. Mr Parkinson, Last season on the way to Wembley, City played extremely well, although both Arsenal & Villa played as badly as they have ever played . They were there for the taking taking.. Wembley, not having a direct shot at goal for 83 minutes is indicative of the negative way you send out you're teams to play. Mr Parkinson, Having signed a three year contract, the board will probably find it financially difficult to terminate it. I would prefer it if you did the right thing & resigned as in my opinion you are taking this club on a downward spiral with no idea how to reverse it. I for one have had enough of the long ball rubbish being played. The blame is in you're court.[/p][/quote]1st promotion since 99 and we are on a downward spiral this thread just gets better whisky1
  • Score: 16

12:31pm Mon 7 Apr 14

whisky1 says...

gordon ramsay wrote:
spleen ventor wrote:
More flapping from the headless chicken brigade....where were you all last week! Darby, Davies,McArdle,Mered ith,Thompson,Doyle,J ones,Reid...all "dreadful signings" by Parkinson....don't talk $hite! The squad dosn't lack ability, I've been lucky enough to see all our away wins and have seen it for myself on numerous occasions, what we lacked Saturday was effort...Oldham worked harder and wanted it more...if we'd shown the same effort as we'd shown at Orient the week before we'd have won comfortably. 'Flip-flop' football we called it at half time...the players were already on the beach in their flip-flops!
Parky's recruitment throughout 2013, starting with Gray and ending with Shirley McLean has been terrible.

A sensible debate around whether Parky can be trusted with he inevitable rebuilding job is fair one for any intelleient poster.
Agreed recruitment has been patchy and there are questions to be asked about tactics but taken as a whole and having in mind the desirability of having stability at the club calls for his head are premature. Its a pointless argument anyway it aint going to happen
[quote][p][bold]gordon ramsay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spleen ventor[/bold] wrote: More flapping from the headless chicken brigade....where were you all last week! Darby, Davies,McArdle,Mered ith,Thompson,Doyle,J ones,Reid...all "dreadful signings" by Parkinson....don't talk $hite! The squad dosn't lack ability, I've been lucky enough to see all our away wins and have seen it for myself on numerous occasions, what we lacked Saturday was effort...Oldham worked harder and wanted it more...if we'd shown the same effort as we'd shown at Orient the week before we'd have won comfortably. 'Flip-flop' football we called it at half time...the players were already on the beach in their flip-flops![/p][/quote]Parky's recruitment throughout 2013, starting with Gray and ending with Shirley McLean has been terrible. A sensible debate around whether Parky can be trusted with he inevitable rebuilding job is fair one for any intelleient poster.[/p][/quote]Agreed recruitment has been patchy and there are questions to be asked about tactics but taken as a whole and having in mind the desirability of having stability at the club calls for his head are premature. Its a pointless argument anyway it aint going to happen whisky1
  • Score: 7

12:42pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Bantam22 says...

Peter300 wrote:
Bantam22 wrote:
How many more times are we going to here the same excuses from PP?Every time a side come to VP and play with 5 in midfield we hear the same "we will have to concede the majority of possession" it does not work Phil,please try something different so we play with the ball instead of relying on 2 wingers or long ball to the front man and hoping to pick up scraps.The Valley Parade faithfull who have backed you to the hilt are becomimg restless with the negative tactics we have to endure at the moment.We have been on a rollarcoaster for the last 2 seasons and have endured some of the best moments that any City fan will ever have so please don't spoil the memories Phil with these mundane tactics.
You have just contradicted yourself there. To accuse the manager of playing negative tactics on Saturday is just plain stupid. Yet if he was to play the extra man in midfield people like you will be the first on his back. Your mish-mash posting makes that abundantly clear. It is completely ludicrous to ask the team to play football then jump on their back as soon as they pass the ball. Lazy people come on here and have the bare-faced cheek to acuse Phil of one dimensional football. Yet when the team try to pass the ball and build-up play they have the same clueless individuals demanding the ball is passed into a wall of opposition players. You would never trust these people to manage a football team.
Peter300 you obviously have never played the game (apart from on your xbox)anybody with a grain of intelligence that knows something about the game can see where we are getting beat, the midfield are being over run week in week out because visiting teams have done their homework and know how to counter our tactics at the moment. Instead of slagging everybody who posts a comment on here why don't study what you are saying and come to terms with the vast majority.I don't want to see PP go but if he carries on with plan A and sticks with it we are going in the wrong direction.
[quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bantam22[/bold] wrote: How many more times are we going to here the same excuses from PP?Every time a side come to VP and play with 5 in midfield we hear the same "we will have to concede the majority of possession" it does not work Phil,please try something different so we play with the ball instead of relying on 2 wingers or long ball to the front man and hoping to pick up scraps.The Valley Parade faithfull who have backed you to the hilt are becomimg restless with the negative tactics we have to endure at the moment.We have been on a rollarcoaster for the last 2 seasons and have endured some of the best moments that any City fan will ever have so please don't spoil the memories Phil with these mundane tactics.[/p][/quote]You have just contradicted yourself there. To accuse the manager of playing negative tactics on Saturday is just plain stupid. Yet if he was to play the extra man in midfield people like you will be the first on his back. Your mish-mash posting makes that abundantly clear. It is completely ludicrous to ask the team to play football then jump on their back as soon as they pass the ball. Lazy people come on here and have the bare-faced cheek to acuse Phil of one dimensional football. Yet when the team try to pass the ball and build-up play they have the same clueless individuals demanding the ball is passed into a wall of opposition players. You would never trust these people to manage a football team.[/p][/quote]Peter300 you obviously have never played the game (apart from on your xbox)anybody with a grain of intelligence that knows something about the game can see where we are getting beat, the midfield are being over run week in week out because visiting teams have done their homework and know how to counter our tactics at the moment. Instead of slagging everybody who posts a comment on here why don't study what you are saying and come to terms with the vast majority.I don't want to see PP go but if he carries on with plan A and sticks with it we are going in the wrong direction. Bantam22
  • Score: 7

1:02pm Mon 7 Apr 14

bantam10 says...

macca1969 wrote:
bantam10 wrote:
allannicho wrote:
Something is wrong somewhere?
Wanna know what's wrong? You got players like Mc Clean and Gray on big wages. More than anybody else and doing a poor job for their worth.
How would you feel if at your work somebody doing same job as you was rubbish and not doing very well but was on more money than you?
I know I would not be happy. Even Davis looked like he could not be bothered the other day.
Even Davies looked like he couldn't be bothered the other day? You do realise that contradicts your point as he is the clubs highest earner!!
Wrong! McClean is the highest earner
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allannicho[/bold] wrote: Something is wrong somewhere?[/p][/quote]Wanna know what's wrong? You got players like Mc Clean and Gray on big wages. More than anybody else and doing a poor job for their worth. How would you feel if at your work somebody doing same job as you was rubbish and not doing very well but was on more money than you? I know I would not be happy. Even Davis looked like he could not be bothered the other day.[/p][/quote]Even Davies looked like he couldn't be bothered the other day? You do realise that contradicts your point as he is the clubs highest earner!![/p][/quote]Wrong! McClean is the highest earner bantam10
  • Score: 0

1:15pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Statler4 says...

Bantam22 wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
Bantam22 wrote:
How many more times are we going to here the same excuses from PP?Every time a side come to VP and play with 5 in midfield we hear the same "we will have to concede the majority of possession" it does not work Phil,please try something different so we play with the ball instead of relying on 2 wingers or long ball to the front man and hoping to pick up scraps.The Valley Parade faithfull who have backed you to the hilt are becomimg restless with the negative tactics we have to endure at the moment.We have been on a rollarcoaster for the last 2 seasons and have endured some of the best moments that any City fan will ever have so please don't spoil the memories Phil with these mundane tactics.
You have just contradicted yourself there. To accuse the manager of playing negative tactics on Saturday is just plain stupid. Yet if he was to play the extra man in midfield people like you will be the first on his back. Your mish-mash posting makes that abundantly clear. It is completely ludicrous to ask the team to play football then jump on their back as soon as they pass the ball. Lazy people come on here and have the bare-faced cheek to acuse Phil of one dimensional football. Yet when the team try to pass the ball and build-up play they have the same clueless individuals demanding the ball is passed into a wall of opposition players. You would never trust these people to manage a football team.
Peter300 you obviously have never played the game (apart from on your xbox)anybody with a grain of intelligence that knows something about the game can see where we are getting beat, the midfield are being over run week in week out because visiting teams have done their homework and know how to counter our tactics at the moment. Instead of slagging everybody who posts a comment on here why don't study what you are saying and come to terms with the vast majority.I don't want to see PP go but if he carries on with plan A and sticks with it we are going in the wrong direction.
Peter300 most certainly has played the game and at a considerably higher level than most people not just on this forum but anywhere!!
[quote][p][bold]Bantam22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bantam22[/bold] wrote: How many more times are we going to here the same excuses from PP?Every time a side come to VP and play with 5 in midfield we hear the same "we will have to concede the majority of possession" it does not work Phil,please try something different so we play with the ball instead of relying on 2 wingers or long ball to the front man and hoping to pick up scraps.The Valley Parade faithfull who have backed you to the hilt are becomimg restless with the negative tactics we have to endure at the moment.We have been on a rollarcoaster for the last 2 seasons and have endured some of the best moments that any City fan will ever have so please don't spoil the memories Phil with these mundane tactics.[/p][/quote]You have just contradicted yourself there. To accuse the manager of playing negative tactics on Saturday is just plain stupid. Yet if he was to play the extra man in midfield people like you will be the first on his back. Your mish-mash posting makes that abundantly clear. It is completely ludicrous to ask the team to play football then jump on their back as soon as they pass the ball. Lazy people come on here and have the bare-faced cheek to acuse Phil of one dimensional football. Yet when the team try to pass the ball and build-up play they have the same clueless individuals demanding the ball is passed into a wall of opposition players. You would never trust these people to manage a football team.[/p][/quote]Peter300 you obviously have never played the game (apart from on your xbox)anybody with a grain of intelligence that knows something about the game can see where we are getting beat, the midfield are being over run week in week out because visiting teams have done their homework and know how to counter our tactics at the moment. Instead of slagging everybody who posts a comment on here why don't study what you are saying and come to terms with the vast majority.I don't want to see PP go but if he carries on with plan A and sticks with it we are going in the wrong direction.[/p][/quote]Peter300 most certainly has played the game and at a considerably higher level than most people not just on this forum but anywhere!! Statler4
  • Score: 2

1:20pm Mon 7 Apr 14

wakefieldbantam says...

lawsonio123 wrote:
Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Okay what was the last good signing PP made?
[quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job[/p][/quote]Okay what was the last good signing PP made? wakefieldbantam
  • Score: 2

1:36pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Statler4 says...

wakefieldbantam wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote:
Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Okay what was the last good signing PP made?
Matty Dolan and Adam Drury.
[quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job[/p][/quote]Okay what was the last good signing PP made?[/p][/quote]Matty Dolan and Adam Drury. Statler4
  • Score: 3

1:49pm Mon 7 Apr 14

s.b.c says...

whisky1 wrote:
s.b.c wrote:
Mr Parkinson,
I would be interested to know what you & you're coaching staff do at the training ground each week, it can't have anything to do with the actual game of football because the team does not play any..
I can see better on most park pitches on a Sunday morning than the rubbish & it is rubbish that that you're team is giving its loyal supporters.most matches.

Mr Parkinson,
Signings . Not one player you have signed for this season has improved the team apart from Adam Reach. Mark Yeats had a superb first game against Carlisle but has since slowly disapeared into oblivion.

Mr Parkinson,
Last season on the way to Wembley, City played extremely well, although both Arsenal & Villa played as badly as they have ever played . They were there for the taking taking..
Wembley, not having a direct shot at goal for 83 minutes is indicative of the negative way you send out you're teams to play.

Mr Parkinson,
Having signed a three year contract, the board will probably find it financially difficult to terminate it.

I would prefer it if you did the right thing & resigned as in my opinion you are taking this club on a downward spiral with no idea how to reverse it.

I for one have had enough of the long ball rubbish being played. The blame is in you're court.
1st promotion since 99 and we are on a downward spiral this thread just gets better
With due respect, the way we are losing games to reasonably poor teams & the abject way we are playing I.M O. does not sugest any any thing else.

The win against Orient was against a team also going through a very lean spell.
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s.b.c[/bold] wrote: Mr Parkinson, I would be interested to know what you & you're coaching staff do at the training ground each week, it can't have anything to do with the actual game of football because the team does not play any.. I can see better on most park pitches on a Sunday morning than the rubbish & it is rubbish that that you're team is giving its loyal supporters.most matches. Mr Parkinson, Signings . Not one player you have signed for this season has improved the team apart from Adam Reach. Mark Yeats had a superb first game against Carlisle but has since slowly disapeared into oblivion. Mr Parkinson, Last season on the way to Wembley, City played extremely well, although both Arsenal & Villa played as badly as they have ever played . They were there for the taking taking.. Wembley, not having a direct shot at goal for 83 minutes is indicative of the negative way you send out you're teams to play. Mr Parkinson, Having signed a three year contract, the board will probably find it financially difficult to terminate it. I would prefer it if you did the right thing & resigned as in my opinion you are taking this club on a downward spiral with no idea how to reverse it. I for one have had enough of the long ball rubbish being played. The blame is in you're court.[/p][/quote]1st promotion since 99 and we are on a downward spiral this thread just gets better[/p][/quote]With due respect, the way we are losing games to reasonably poor teams & the abject way we are playing I.M O. does not sugest any any thing else. The win against Orient was against a team also going through a very lean spell. s.b.c
  • Score: 3

1:53pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Peter300 says...

SouthCheshireBantams wrote:
Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade!
Your use of the word clown makes it clear it was people like you who hounded Stuart McCall out of the City job. Now you are asking that money is paid so you can call Stuart a clown once more. Your knee-jerk reaction asking for Billy Davies is just typical of the short-sighted way some people want the club to be run. No sense, no planning, no thought and no idea. You would never put these people in charge of the football club. That would be a big mistake.
[quote][p][bold]SouthCheshireBantams[/bold] wrote: Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade![/p][/quote]Your use of the word clown makes it clear it was people like you who hounded Stuart McCall out of the City job. Now you are asking that money is paid so you can call Stuart a clown once more. Your knee-jerk reaction asking for Billy Davies is just typical of the short-sighted way some people want the club to be run. No sense, no planning, no thought and no idea. You would never put these people in charge of the football club. That would be a big mistake. Peter300
  • Score: 10

1:57pm Mon 7 Apr 14

lawsonio123 says...

wakefieldbantam wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote:
Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Okay what was the last good signing PP made?
Well can you honestly claim that Davies ,Doyle Reid. Darby are bad signings give the man some credit
[quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job[/p][/quote]Okay what was the last good signing PP made?[/p][/quote]Well can you honestly claim that Davies ,Doyle Reid. Darby are bad signings give the man some credit lawsonio123
  • Score: 8

1:57pm Mon 7 Apr 14

lawsonio123 says...

wakefieldbantam wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote:
Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Okay what was the last good signing PP made?
Well can you honestly claim that Davies ,Doyle Reid. Darby are bad signings give the man some credit
[quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job[/p][/quote]Okay what was the last good signing PP made?[/p][/quote]Well can you honestly claim that Davies ,Doyle Reid. Darby are bad signings give the man some credit lawsonio123
  • Score: 2

1:57pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Baildonbantam says...

wakefieldbantam wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Okay what was the last good signing PP made?
Derby? Jones? Doyle? Davies?
[quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job[/p][/quote]Okay what was the last good signing PP made?[/p][/quote]Derby? Jones? Doyle? Davies? Baildonbantam
  • Score: 5

2:45pm Mon 7 Apr 14

whisky1 says...

Baildonbantam wrote:
wakefieldbantam wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Okay what was the last good signing PP made?
Derby? Jones? Doyle? Davies?
Reid Reach Meredith McCardle ...in fact virtually the entire PROMOTION team
[quote][p][bold]Baildonbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job[/p][/quote]Okay what was the last good signing PP made?[/p][/quote]Derby? Jones? Doyle? Davies?[/p][/quote]Reid Reach Meredith McCardle ...in fact virtually the entire PROMOTION team whisky1
  • Score: 2

2:47pm Mon 7 Apr 14

wakefieldbantam says...

Statler4 wrote:
wakefieldbantam wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote:
Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Okay what was the last good signing PP made?
Matty Dolan and Adam Drury.
You really think Dolan is a good signing? Dolan is okay that is all, time will tell if he is up to this level of football. Drury yes but he is at the end of is career, but could do a job for us next season.
[quote][p][bold]Statler4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job[/p][/quote]Okay what was the last good signing PP made?[/p][/quote]Matty Dolan and Adam Drury.[/p][/quote]You really think Dolan is a good signing? Dolan is okay that is all, time will tell if he is up to this level of football. Drury yes but he is at the end of is career, but could do a job for us next season. wakefieldbantam
  • Score: 3

2:49pm Mon 7 Apr 14

wakefieldbantam says...

Baildonbantam wrote:
wakefieldbantam wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Okay what was the last good signing PP made?
Derby? Jones? Doyle? Davies?
How long ago were these signings made I rest my case! Davies was signed about 2 1/2 years ago !
[quote][p][bold]Baildonbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job[/p][/quote]Okay what was the last good signing PP made?[/p][/quote]Derby? Jones? Doyle? Davies?[/p][/quote]How long ago were these signings made I rest my case! Davies was signed about 2 1/2 years ago ! wakefieldbantam
  • Score: -2

2:51pm Mon 7 Apr 14

wakefieldbantam says...

whisky1 wrote:
Baildonbantam wrote:
wakefieldbantam wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Okay what was the last good signing PP made?
Derby? Jones? Doyle? Davies?
Reid Reach Meredith McCardle ...in fact virtually the entire PROMOTION team
Reach is on loan, the rest were signed nearly 2 years ago think I've made my point or you've made it for me!
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baildonbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job[/p][/quote]Okay what was the last good signing PP made?[/p][/quote]Derby? Jones? Doyle? Davies?[/p][/quote]Reid Reach Meredith McCardle ...in fact virtually the entire PROMOTION team[/p][/quote]Reach is on loan, the rest were signed nearly 2 years ago think I've made my point or you've made it for me! wakefieldbantam
  • Score: -2

3:01pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Pablo says...

Baildonbantam wrote:
wakefieldbantam wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Okay what was the last good signing PP made?
Derby? Jones? Doyle? Davies?
The club had been after Jones before PP arrived. Doyle had previously been on loan. I understand both were recommended to PP from within the club.

He has generally signed players he was previously associated with at other clubs.

On balance, we have wasted alot of money on misfits. Nahki's fee will be swallowed up, in the main, by McLean's contract. What a good piece of business that was!

Our success last season was mainly built around Wells and our survival this year is also down to the goals scored by Wells at the beginning of the season.

Sadly, we sold the family silver and now the cupboard is bare..
[quote][p][bold]Baildonbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job[/p][/quote]Okay what was the last good signing PP made?[/p][/quote]Derby? Jones? Doyle? Davies?[/p][/quote]The club had been after Jones before PP arrived. Doyle had previously been on loan. I understand both were recommended to PP from within the club. He has generally signed players he was previously associated with at other clubs. On balance, we have wasted alot of money on misfits. Nahki's fee will be swallowed up, in the main, by McLean's contract. What a good piece of business that was! Our success last season was mainly built around Wells and our survival this year is also down to the goals scored by Wells at the beginning of the season. Sadly, we sold the family silver and now the cupboard is bare.. Pablo
  • Score: 2

3:01pm Mon 7 Apr 14

whisky1 says...

wakefieldbantam wrote:
Statler4 wrote:
wakefieldbantam wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote:
Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Okay what was the last good signing PP made?
Matty Dolan and Adam Drury.
You really think Dolan is a good signing? Dolan is okay that is all, time will tell if he is up to this level of football. Drury yes but he is at the end of is career, but could do a job for us next season.
You have obviously forgotten the tackle and the fourty yard pass behind the full back for the goal..about the only bit of quality from anyone all game for us. You also obviously have immense powers of analysis to judge a player on a handful of games or more likely you don't have the sense to give a player a decent run before you write them off
[quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Statler4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job[/p][/quote]Okay what was the last good signing PP made?[/p][/quote]Matty Dolan and Adam Drury.[/p][/quote]You really think Dolan is a good signing? Dolan is okay that is all, time will tell if he is up to this level of football. Drury yes but he is at the end of is career, but could do a job for us next season.[/p][/quote]You have obviously forgotten the tackle and the fourty yard pass behind the full back for the goal..about the only bit of quality from anyone all game for us. You also obviously have immense powers of analysis to judge a player on a handful of games or more likely you don't have the sense to give a player a decent run before you write them off whisky1
  • Score: 3

3:31pm Mon 7 Apr 14

wakefieldbantam says...

whisky1 wrote:
wakefieldbantam wrote:
Statler4 wrote:
wakefieldbantam wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote:
Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Okay what was the last good signing PP made?
Matty Dolan and Adam Drury.
You really think Dolan is a good signing? Dolan is okay that is all, time will tell if he is up to this level of football. Drury yes but he is at the end of is career, but could do a job for us next season.
You have obviously forgotten the tackle and the fourty yard pass behind the full back for the goal..about the only bit of quality from anyone all game for us. You also obviously have immense powers of analysis to judge a player on a handful of games or more likely you don't have the sense to give a player a decent run before you write them off
No I haven't forgotten that and it was one of the very few good moments of the game, and if you read my reply I did say time will tell about Dolan so that is not writing him off is it? Imo I don't think he is the type of player that is going to get us promoted out of this division, and you agreed with me the other week that PP's recruitment in the last year has not been good.
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Statler4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job[/p][/quote]Okay what was the last good signing PP made?[/p][/quote]Matty Dolan and Adam Drury.[/p][/quote]You really think Dolan is a good signing? Dolan is okay that is all, time will tell if he is up to this level of football. Drury yes but he is at the end of is career, but could do a job for us next season.[/p][/quote]You have obviously forgotten the tackle and the fourty yard pass behind the full back for the goal..about the only bit of quality from anyone all game for us. You also obviously have immense powers of analysis to judge a player on a handful of games or more likely you don't have the sense to give a player a decent run before you write them off[/p][/quote]No I haven't forgotten that and it was one of the very few good moments of the game, and if you read my reply I did say time will tell about Dolan so that is not writing him off is it? Imo I don't think he is the type of player that is going to get us promoted out of this division, and you agreed with me the other week that PP's recruitment in the last year has not been good. wakefieldbantam
  • Score: 0

3:50pm Mon 7 Apr 14

whisky1 says...

Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic
Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic whisky1
  • Score: 6

4:27pm Mon 7 Apr 14

diffident says...

Statler4 wrote:
wakefieldbantam wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote:
Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Okay what was the last good signing PP made?
Matty Dolan and Adam Drury.
Yes, two loanees to fill in for all the c**p that he's given contracts to that aren't good enough to get in the team.

Given his track record in the transfer market I wouldn't trust Parkinson with a budget to do a weekly shop. You'd ask him to buy essentials like bread, milk and maybe a cream cake as a bit of a treat and he'd probably come back with a bicycle pump, mousetrap and a bag of spanners.
[quote][p][bold]Statler4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job[/p][/quote]Okay what was the last good signing PP made?[/p][/quote]Matty Dolan and Adam Drury.[/p][/quote]Yes, two loanees to fill in for all the c**p that he's given contracts to that aren't good enough to get in the team. Given his track record in the transfer market I wouldn't trust Parkinson with a budget to do a weekly shop. You'd ask him to buy essentials like bread, milk and maybe a cream cake as a bit of a treat and he'd probably come back with a bicycle pump, mousetrap and a bag of spanners. diffident
  • Score: 0

4:35pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Pablo says...

whisky1 wrote:
Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic
On what basis do you think McLean will come good.

The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning.

On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man.

Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic[/p][/quote]On what basis do you think McLean will come good. The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning. On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man. Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway. Pablo
  • Score: 3

4:41pm Mon 7 Apr 14

whisky1 says...

Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic
On what basis do you think McLean will come good.

The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning.

On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man.

Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.
Do you expect all signings to make an instant impact?...With your kind of management Hanson would have been on his bike in his second (less effective season). McClean scored goals for fun at this level and above. Has he suddenly become a bad player? No. Keep the negativity flowing pal ...you get out what you put in in any walk of life.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic[/p][/quote]On what basis do you think McLean will come good. The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning. On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man. Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.[/p][/quote]Do you expect all signings to make an instant impact?...With your kind of management Hanson would have been on his bike in his second (less effective season). McClean scored goals for fun at this level and above. Has he suddenly become a bad player? No. Keep the negativity flowing pal ...you get out what you put in in any walk of life. whisky1
  • Score: 3

4:45pm Mon 7 Apr 14

audal says...

IF A MAN (?) is so weak that he cannot stand up and question the task allocated to him then he is not worthy of a place in the workforce..so JONES stop turning around in a circle then passing sidewards or back when you have acres to push forward. YOU ARE THE CAPTAIN (yes????) RORY , for some reason cannot/will not control the ball then a simple push through. DAVIES ? well, he as lost confidence. the answer(?) for a start let the TEAM LOOSE and do what they do best
IF A MAN (?) is so weak that he cannot stand up and question the task allocated to him then he is not worthy of a place in the workforce..so JONES stop turning around in a circle then passing sidewards or back when you have acres to push forward. YOU ARE THE CAPTAIN (yes????) RORY , for some reason cannot/will not control the ball then a simple push through. DAVIES ? well, he as lost confidence. the answer(?) for a start let the TEAM LOOSE and do what they do best audal
  • Score: -1

4:55pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Pablo says...

whisky1 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic
On what basis do you think McLean will come good.

The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning.

On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man.

Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.
Do you expect all signings to make an instant impact?...With your kind of management Hanson would have been on his bike in his second (less effective season). McClean scored goals for fun at this level and above. Has he suddenly become a bad player? No. Keep the negativity flowing pal ...you get out what you put in in any walk of life.
Why don't you read posts before jumping in to reply?

McLean DROPPED DOWN TWO DIVISIONS - Hanson had joined the club from GUISELEY! McLean is on megabucks. Hanson was on peanuts. McLean is supposedly the finished article, Hanson was being developed. Compenez-vous?

You ask if McLean has "suddenly become a bad player?" Do you really need me to answer? Well, we've basically swapped Wells for McLean. Chalk and cheese, mate!!!
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic[/p][/quote]On what basis do you think McLean will come good. The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning. On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man. Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.[/p][/quote]Do you expect all signings to make an instant impact?...With your kind of management Hanson would have been on his bike in his second (less effective season). McClean scored goals for fun at this level and above. Has he suddenly become a bad player? No. Keep the negativity flowing pal ...you get out what you put in in any walk of life.[/p][/quote]Why don't you read posts before jumping in to reply? McLean DROPPED DOWN TWO DIVISIONS - Hanson had joined the club from GUISELEY! McLean is on megabucks. Hanson was on peanuts. McLean is supposedly the finished article, Hanson was being developed. Compenez-vous? You ask if McLean has "suddenly become a bad player?" Do you really need me to answer? Well, we've basically swapped Wells for McLean. Chalk and cheese, mate!!! Pablo
  • Score: 4

4:57pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Pablo says...

Didn't register the "r"- Comprenez-vous?
Didn't register the "r"- Comprenez-vous? Pablo
  • Score: 2

6:22pm Mon 7 Apr 14

diffident says...

Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic
On what basis do you think McLean will come good.

The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning.

On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man.

Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.
I don't think McLean's the type of player that can score goals out of nothing, people rave about his goal scoring prowess but Wells couldn't either. You'd need a lot more than what we got off Hudders for Wells to get one. Our problems start and end with Hanson. Everything is geared to making the most of his attributes and as such there isn't much need for a lot of creativity in midfield. Therefore when Hanson's not there we lack the skill and nous to create chances for the front men. This problem is also evident now that all the teams in League 1 know what we're about and set up to nullify Reach and our biggest threat, even when he's playing. If anyone can remember an instance when any of our central midfield players over the course of this season drove to the edge of the box with the ball and got ahead of the strikers after playing a give and go by all means let me know.

It might seem radical but the only way we'll see a change in our style of play is if we get rid of our biggest threat and bring in some talented footballers that like passing the ball to feet. Alas, I feel that might be a step too far for our one trick pony, defence orientated manager so I fully expect to see more of the same 'dark age' football next season.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic[/p][/quote]On what basis do you think McLean will come good. The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning. On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man. Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.[/p][/quote]I don't think McLean's the type of player that can score goals out of nothing, people rave about his goal scoring prowess but Wells couldn't either. You'd need a lot more than what we got off Hudders for Wells to get one. Our problems start and end with Hanson. Everything is geared to making the most of his attributes and as such there isn't much need for a lot of creativity in midfield. Therefore when Hanson's not there we lack the skill and nous to create chances for the front men. This problem is also evident now that all the teams in League 1 know what we're about and set up to nullify Reach and our biggest threat, even when he's playing. If anyone can remember an instance when any of our central midfield players over the course of this season drove to the edge of the box with the ball and got ahead of the strikers after playing a give and go by all means let me know. It might seem radical but the only way we'll see a change in our style of play is if we get rid of our biggest threat and bring in some talented footballers that like passing the ball to feet. Alas, I feel that might be a step too far for our one trick pony, defence orientated manager so I fully expect to see more of the same 'dark age' football next season. diffident
  • Score: 0

8:29pm Mon 7 Apr 14

i miss stallard & murray says...

Parky will not get sacked this year and he defo won't walk. One thing is for sure unless he changes his approach improves his tactics makes signings that support this we will be in a relegation battle next year.
I really hope his summer signings make a similar impact as the promotion winning squad and he is willing to change tactics to meet the style of this league. If we maintain the current approach I will be very disappointed in Parky and fear for our chances to progress.
However we have played good passing football in periods over the last two years surely this can be further improved and delivered on a more consistent basis?
Parky will not get sacked this year and he defo won't walk. One thing is for sure unless he changes his approach improves his tactics makes signings that support this we will be in a relegation battle next year. I really hope his summer signings make a similar impact as the promotion winning squad and he is willing to change tactics to meet the style of this league. If we maintain the current approach I will be very disappointed in Parky and fear for our chances to progress. However we have played good passing football in periods over the last two years surely this can be further improved and delivered on a more consistent basis? i miss stallard & murray
  • Score: 0

9:31pm Mon 7 Apr 14

LS9BANTAM says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
BCFC are inconsistent like 90% of the teams in this league. Regarding next season, I'd put BCFC fans back in the Bradford End for starters. The club changed the whole dynamic of the ground by putting away fans back in the Bradford End, a serious mistake on the back of the clubs most successful season in living memory. Let's start by putting that right next season.
No logician to this ? We had poor season after poor with city fans in bradford end and no more than 100 home fans in there last season. It's down to poor signings,at times questionable substitutions and tactics and better quality of opposition. No proper reserve team giving fringe players adequate game time to improve competition. I don't go 100% with parky has to be stuck with as exults are what matter and since first ten games we have been nothing more than bottom four material. Huge overhaul required in summer and 10/15 games to show we can progress at this level and beyond or change at top required. Crowds will be less by about 1k a game so a much cleverer dip in the transfer mkt a must. The foundations are there , let's crawl over the line this season and then can get optimistic again.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: BCFC are inconsistent like 90% of the teams in this league. Regarding next season, I'd put BCFC fans back in the Bradford End for starters. The club changed the whole dynamic of the ground by putting away fans back in the Bradford End, a serious mistake on the back of the clubs most successful season in living memory. Let's start by putting that right next season.[/p][/quote]No logician to this ? We had poor season after poor with city fans in bradford end and no more than 100 home fans in there last season. It's down to poor signings,at times questionable substitutions and tactics and better quality of opposition. No proper reserve team giving fringe players adequate game time to improve competition. I don't go 100% with parky has to be stuck with as exults are what matter and since first ten games we have been nothing more than bottom four material. Huge overhaul required in summer and 10/15 games to show we can progress at this level and beyond or change at top required. Crowds will be less by about 1k a game so a much cleverer dip in the transfer mkt a must. The foundations are there , let's crawl over the line this season and then can get optimistic again. LS9BANTAM
  • Score: 0

9:32pm Mon 7 Apr 14

KnightMcCall says...

Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic
On what basis do you think McLean will come good.

The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning.

On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man.

Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.
A large number of loans to cover bad signings? I think not. You are trying to find evidence to justify your opinion but it doesnt stack up.

Reach is in for Reid
Bennett for De Vita
Stead for Hanson
Drury for Meredith

Thats four loans to cover injury. Only Atkinson and Dolan could possibly be considered as replacements for any signings but Dolan has been needed as Cover for Doyle.

As for signings being poor. They were brought in to provide competition but failed to oust the players they were competing with. De Vita and Taylor have then been injured for weeks hence the need for loanees.

Some of the hatred towards PP on this board is sickening. We are above half of the division? What could anypne seriously have expected from this season?

Essentially, most o those who are negative towards PP will never ever be happy with anything. Total lack of reality and utterly clueless about anything.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic[/p][/quote]On what basis do you think McLean will come good. The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning. On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man. Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.[/p][/quote]A large number of loans to cover bad signings? I think not. You are trying to find evidence to justify your opinion but it doesnt stack up. Reach is in for Reid Bennett for De Vita Stead for Hanson Drury for Meredith Thats four loans to cover injury. Only Atkinson and Dolan could possibly be considered as replacements for any signings but Dolan has been needed as Cover for Doyle. As for signings being poor. They were brought in to provide competition but failed to oust the players they were competing with. De Vita and Taylor have then been injured for weeks hence the need for loanees. Some of the hatred towards PP on this board is sickening. We are above half of the division? What could anypne seriously have expected from this season? Essentially, most o those who are negative towards PP will never ever be happy with anything. Total lack of reality and utterly clueless about anything. KnightMcCall
  • Score: 3

10:38pm Mon 7 Apr 14

macca1969 says...

bantam10 wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
bantam10 wrote:
allannicho wrote:
Something is wrong somewhere?
Wanna know what's wrong? You got players like Mc Clean and Gray on big wages. More than anybody else and doing a poor job for their worth.
How would you feel if at your work somebody doing same job as you was rubbish and not doing very well but was on more money than you?
I know I would not be happy. Even Davis looked like he could not be bothered the other day.
Even Davies looked like he couldn't be bothered the other day? You do realise that contradicts your point as he is the clubs highest earner!!
Wrong! McClean is the highest earner
Not according to Baldwin and he should know more than you. Davues has a clause in his contract that makes him the highest earner. He stated quite clearly on the radio that his wage had gone up twice this season. First pay risewas when hHanson penned a new deal and then again when we signed McLean. Do your research
[quote][p][bold]bantam10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allannicho[/bold] wrote: Something is wrong somewhere?[/p][/quote]Wanna know what's wrong? You got players like Mc Clean and Gray on big wages. More than anybody else and doing a poor job for their worth. How would you feel if at your work somebody doing same job as you was rubbish and not doing very well but was on more money than you? I know I would not be happy. Even Davis looked like he could not be bothered the other day.[/p][/quote]Even Davies looked like he couldn't be bothered the other day? You do realise that contradicts your point as he is the clubs highest earner!![/p][/quote]Wrong! McClean is the highest earner[/p][/quote]Not according to Baldwin and he should know more than you. Davues has a clause in his contract that makes him the highest earner. He stated quite clearly on the radio that his wage had gone up twice this season. First pay risewas when hHanson penned a new deal and then again when we signed McLean. Do your research macca1969
  • Score: 3

11:10pm Mon 7 Apr 14

claret&camber says...

Let's get this in perspective PP delivered much better times for the long suffering city fans and he will be here next season. However, i'm sure he regrets some of his summer signings who have been a major disappointment to most of the supporters. He does seem to struggle to combat sides playing 5 across the middle at the valley and at times we just hit the ball too long too often. I like Hanson very much but we are too predictable and lack pace in midfield and on the wings. So let's get that one important win and let Parky learn both from what worked and what failed this season,that's what management is all about. Let's get a framework in place that means we keep the ball more and one that allows us to challenge for the play-offs. Good Luck Parky.
Let's get this in perspective PP delivered much better times for the long suffering city fans and he will be here next season. However, i'm sure he regrets some of his summer signings who have been a major disappointment to most of the supporters. He does seem to struggle to combat sides playing 5 across the middle at the valley and at times we just hit the ball too long too often. I like Hanson very much but we are too predictable and lack pace in midfield and on the wings. So let's get that one important win and let Parky learn both from what worked and what failed this season,that's what management is all about. Let's get a framework in place that means we keep the ball more and one that allows us to challenge for the play-offs. Good Luck Parky. claret&camber
  • Score: 4

12:54am Tue 8 Apr 14

Bradford1903 says...

I have commented the last two home performances have been unacceptable as we have simply not worked hard enough, but let us have some perspective.

We need a maximum of 3 points to stay up, which we will get, even if it's in draws, and finish somewhere in mid table; a position I would have **** happily accepted at the start of the season.

Our good start to the season raised expectation levels too high, and I think it was a bit naive to assume we would be able to maintain a promotion challenge, as it is not an easy division to get out of.

How many years did it take Leeds and Town to get out of it, despite having far greater resources than us. I think Peterborough went down with the highest points tally last season, and you would've expected then to be in the top two, but they have already lost 17 games.

You also can't deny the impact of losing our leading goalscorer halfway through the season has had. Look at how Coventry have struggled since Clarke left, and Wilson got injured.

We have a terrible record against Evans, but it would just be like City to pick up a result when we least expect it. I think we will raise our game in front of the TV cameras, and Rotherham have also a tough derby game midweek at Sheff Utd, who hopefully won't have their minds on the cup, so this should also work to our advantage.
I have commented the last two home performances have been unacceptable as we have simply not worked hard enough, but let us have some perspective. We need a maximum of 3 points to stay up, which we will get, even if it's in draws, and finish somewhere in mid table; a position I would have **** happily accepted at the start of the season. Our good start to the season raised expectation levels too high, and I think it was a bit naive to assume we would be able to maintain a promotion challenge, as it is not an easy division to get out of. How many years did it take Leeds and Town to get out of it, despite having far greater resources than us. I think Peterborough went down with the highest points tally last season, and you would've expected then to be in the top two, but they have already lost 17 games. You also can't deny the impact of losing our leading goalscorer halfway through the season has had. Look at how Coventry have struggled since Clarke left, and Wilson got injured. We have a terrible record against Evans, but it would just be like City to pick up a result when we least expect it. I think we will raise our game in front of the TV cameras, and Rotherham have also a tough derby game midweek at Sheff Utd, who hopefully won't have their minds on the cup, so this should also work to our advantage. Bradford1903
  • Score: 3

1:53am Tue 8 Apr 14

Bradford1903 says...

SouthCheshireBantams wrote:
Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade!
I know it has already been pointed out that Parky achieved promotion from this division with Colchester. Just to add though, you criticise Parky for playing the long ball, yet recommend he is replaced by Allen, a man who is renowned for playing tbe direct game, and who was sacked by Gillingham with them a lot lower in the table than us, in a position Taylor has significantly improved on since he came in.

This is typical of some of the ill thought out comments on here.
[quote][p][bold]SouthCheshireBantams[/bold] wrote: Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade![/p][/quote]I know it has already been pointed out that Parky achieved promotion from this division with Colchester. Just to add though, you criticise Parky for playing the long ball, yet recommend he is replaced by Allen, a man who is renowned for playing tbe direct game, and who was sacked by Gillingham with them a lot lower in the table than us, in a position Taylor has significantly improved on since he came in. This is typical of some of the ill thought out comments on here. Bradford1903
  • Score: 2

9:42am Tue 8 Apr 14

whisky1 says...

Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic
On what basis do you think McLean will come good.

The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning.

On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man.

Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.
Do you expect all signings to make an instant impact?...With your kind of management Hanson would have been on his bike in his second (less effective season). McClean scored goals for fun at this level and above. Has he suddenly become a bad player? No. Keep the negativity flowing pal ...you get out what you put in in any walk of life.
Why don't you read posts before jumping in to reply?

McLean DROPPED DOWN TWO DIVISIONS - Hanson had joined the club from GUISELEY! McLean is on megabucks. Hanson was on peanuts. McLean is supposedly the finished article, Hanson was being developed. Compenez-vous?

You ask if McLean has "suddenly become a bad player?" Do you really need me to answer? Well, we've basically swapped Wells for McLean. Chalk and cheese, mate!!!
My point remains the same--you are intent on judging players in the short tem--patience is sometimes required. The point is that very many fans would have been glad to see the back of Hans in his second year..many of whom thought he was not good enough for Lge 2 never mind Lge 1.Sensible judges saw the potential. Look at McCleans scoring record and come back to me..if you still think he is only capable of 5 a season
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic[/p][/quote]On what basis do you think McLean will come good. The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning. On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man. Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.[/p][/quote]Do you expect all signings to make an instant impact?...With your kind of management Hanson would have been on his bike in his second (less effective season). McClean scored goals for fun at this level and above. Has he suddenly become a bad player? No. Keep the negativity flowing pal ...you get out what you put in in any walk of life.[/p][/quote]Why don't you read posts before jumping in to reply? McLean DROPPED DOWN TWO DIVISIONS - Hanson had joined the club from GUISELEY! McLean is on megabucks. Hanson was on peanuts. McLean is supposedly the finished article, Hanson was being developed. Compenez-vous? You ask if McLean has "suddenly become a bad player?" Do you really need me to answer? Well, we've basically swapped Wells for McLean. Chalk and cheese, mate!!![/p][/quote]My point remains the same--you are intent on judging players in the short tem--patience is sometimes required. The point is that very many fans would have been glad to see the back of Hans in his second year..many of whom thought he was not good enough for Lge 2 never mind Lge 1.Sensible judges saw the potential. Look at McCleans scoring record and come back to me..if you still think he is only capable of 5 a season whisky1
  • Score: 1

9:57am Tue 8 Apr 14

Bantam22 says...

Statler4 wrote:
Bantam22 wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
Bantam22 wrote: How many more times are we going to here the same excuses from PP?Every time a side come to VP and play with 5 in midfield we hear the same "we will have to concede the majority of possession" it does not work Phil,please try something different so we play with the ball instead of relying on 2 wingers or long ball to the front man and hoping to pick up scraps.The Valley Parade faithfull who have backed you to the hilt are becomimg restless with the negative tactics we have to endure at the moment.We have been on a rollarcoaster for the last 2 seasons and have endured some of the best moments that any City fan will ever have so please don't spoil the memories Phil with these mundane tactics.
You have just contradicted yourself there. To accuse the manager of playing negative tactics on Saturday is just plain stupid. Yet if he was to play the extra man in midfield people like you will be the first on his back. Your mish-mash posting makes that abundantly clear. It is completely ludicrous to ask the team to play football then jump on their back as soon as they pass the ball. Lazy people come on here and have the bare-faced cheek to acuse Phil of one dimensional football. Yet when the team try to pass the ball and build-up play they have the same clueless individuals demanding the ball is passed into a wall of opposition players. You would never trust these people to manage a football team.
Peter300 you obviously have never played the game (apart from on your xbox)anybody with a grain of intelligence that knows something about the game can see where we are getting beat, the midfield are being over run week in week out because visiting teams have done their homework and know how to counter our tactics at the moment. Instead of slagging everybody who posts a comment on here why don't study what you are saying and come to terms with the vast majority.I don't want to see PP go but if he carries on with plan A and sticks with it we are going in the wrong direction.
Peter300 most certainly has played the game and at a considerably higher level than most people not just on this forum but anywhere!!
Are you his PE teacher Statler4
[quote][p][bold]Statler4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bantam22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bantam22[/bold] wrote: How many more times are we going to here the same excuses from PP?Every time a side come to VP and play with 5 in midfield we hear the same "we will have to concede the majority of possession" it does not work Phil,please try something different so we play with the ball instead of relying on 2 wingers or long ball to the front man and hoping to pick up scraps.The Valley Parade faithfull who have backed you to the hilt are becomimg restless with the negative tactics we have to endure at the moment.We have been on a rollarcoaster for the last 2 seasons and have endured some of the best moments that any City fan will ever have so please don't spoil the memories Phil with these mundane tactics.[/p][/quote]You have just contradicted yourself there. To accuse the manager of playing negative tactics on Saturday is just plain stupid. Yet if he was to play the extra man in midfield people like you will be the first on his back. Your mish-mash posting makes that abundantly clear. It is completely ludicrous to ask the team to play football then jump on their back as soon as they pass the ball. Lazy people come on here and have the bare-faced cheek to acuse Phil of one dimensional football. Yet when the team try to pass the ball and build-up play they have the same clueless individuals demanding the ball is passed into a wall of opposition players. You would never trust these people to manage a football team.[/p][/quote]Peter300 you obviously have never played the game (apart from on your xbox)anybody with a grain of intelligence that knows something about the game can see where we are getting beat, the midfield are being over run week in week out because visiting teams have done their homework and know how to counter our tactics at the moment. Instead of slagging everybody who posts a comment on here why don't study what you are saying and come to terms with the vast majority.I don't want to see PP go but if he carries on with plan A and sticks with it we are going in the wrong direction.[/p][/quote]Peter300 most certainly has played the game and at a considerably higher level than most people not just on this forum but anywhere!![/p][/quote]Are you his PE teacher Statler4 Bantam22
  • Score: 2

10:47am Tue 8 Apr 14

lawsonio123 says...

wakefieldbantam wrote:
Baildonbantam wrote:
wakefieldbantam wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Okay what was the last good signing PP made?
Derby? Jones? Doyle? Davies?
How long ago were these signings made I rest my case! Davies was signed about 2 1/2 years ago !
How long ago is not the question you said what good signings has he made You have your answer from various posters. You have NO CASE TO REST Verdict GUILTY
[quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baildonbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job[/p][/quote]Okay what was the last good signing PP made?[/p][/quote]Derby? Jones? Doyle? Davies?[/p][/quote]How long ago were these signings made I rest my case! Davies was signed about 2 1/2 years ago ![/p][/quote]How long ago is not the question you said what good signings has he made You have your answer from various posters. You have NO CASE TO REST Verdict GUILTY lawsonio123
  • Score: 0

11:38am Tue 8 Apr 14

lawsonio123 says...

diffident wrote:
Statler4 wrote:
wakefieldbantam wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote:
Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Okay what was the last good signing PP made?
Matty Dolan and Adam Drury.
Yes, two loanees to fill in for all the c**p that he's given contracts to that aren't good enough to get in the team.

Given his track record in the transfer market I wouldn't trust Parkinson with a budget to do a weekly shop. You'd ask him to buy essentials like bread, milk and maybe a cream cake as a bit of a treat and he'd probably come back with a bicycle pump, mousetrap and a bag of spanners.
Mousetrap Make sure you do not stand on it when next you go to Valley Parade
[quote][p][bold]diffident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Statler4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job[/p][/quote]Okay what was the last good signing PP made?[/p][/quote]Matty Dolan and Adam Drury.[/p][/quote]Yes, two loanees to fill in for all the c**p that he's given contracts to that aren't good enough to get in the team. Given his track record in the transfer market I wouldn't trust Parkinson with a budget to do a weekly shop. You'd ask him to buy essentials like bread, milk and maybe a cream cake as a bit of a treat and he'd probably come back with a bicycle pump, mousetrap and a bag of spanners.[/p][/quote]Mousetrap Make sure you do not stand on it when next you go to Valley Parade lawsonio123
  • Score: 0

11:42am Tue 8 Apr 14

wakefieldbantam says...

lawsonio123 wrote:
wakefieldbantam wrote:
Baildonbantam wrote:
wakefieldbantam wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job
Okay what was the last good signing PP made?
Derby? Jones? Doyle? Davies?
How long ago were these signings made I rest my case! Davies was signed about 2 1/2 years ago !
How long ago is not the question you said what good signings has he made You have your answer from various posters. You have NO CASE TO REST Verdict GUILTY
Okay I have my answers and my point is yes Darby (not Derby), Jones, Davies and Doyle were all good signings no question about it, since then not one player who has been signed on a permanent basis can be classed as a good signing. If this trend continues we will be fighting relegation next season CASE now rested FINAL VERDICT INNOCENT !
[quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baildonbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Ha Are you all in panic oh dear Now if Mr Parkinson is a bad manager then so are another 75 now in football A team needs building but this is often trial and error and takes time our team has reached its limit and needs rebuilding Parky has made some poor signings BUT some good ones as well so now let him get on with his job[/p][/quote]Okay what was the last good signing PP made?[/p][/quote]Derby? Jones? Doyle? Davies?[/p][/quote]How long ago were these signings made I rest my case! Davies was signed about 2 1/2 years ago ![/p][/quote]How long ago is not the question you said what good signings has he made You have your answer from various posters. You have NO CASE TO REST Verdict GUILTY[/p][/quote]Okay I have my answers and my point is yes Darby (not Derby), Jones, Davies and Doyle were all good signings no question about it, since then not one player who has been signed on a permanent basis can be classed as a good signing. If this trend continues we will be fighting relegation next season CASE now rested FINAL VERDICT INNOCENT ! wakefieldbantam
  • Score: 0

12:50pm Tue 8 Apr 14

dcbantam says...

SouthCheshireBantams wrote:
Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade!
'ill researched and ill advised singings'. Martin Allen is at Barnet so isnt available, hows that for ill researched......

Get a grip, yeah the performances havent been great on the whole for a while but we need to see it through until the end of the season and recruit over the summer.

If we did sack Parky and employ a manager who gets us playing tippy tappy football im sure you would fine something else to complain about and want that manager sacking for as well.

Rome wasnt built in a day and this season should be seen as a success for us if we stay up and will be an especially good achievement to finish mid table. Would you rather us have lost the play off final against Northampton so then we could have sacked PP? Look at where Northampton are now, does that put it in perspective how far 'long ball football' that 'doesnt work' gets you?
[quote][p][bold]SouthCheshireBantams[/bold] wrote: Parkinson has zero tactical sense and has made some absolutely dreadful signings. He's wasted the money from Wells on has-beens and continues his policy of standing on the touch line with either his arms folded or hands in pockets! Please can someone tell me if they saw him shout once at the players? I really think it's time to get rid of him. I'm sick of hearing about last season as if it has some bearing on the way we're playing this year! We had a freak cup run that was based on PPs standard park the bus and play long ball to Hanson approach and the adrenaline from that is what pushed us on for promotion - absolutely nothing to do with Parkinson! It was all down to the fitness staff and the determination of the individual players. Long ball football doesn't work but Parkinson fails to recognise this. I want him out because it's clear from his acquisition of Stead that if Hanson is out then he needs to replace him with someone of similar height so the long ball may continue and IT DOESN'T WORK!!! He also said that we were tired on Saturday because of three games in a week - funny, we had no issues last year! I'd like to see money spent to either tempt McCall back before it's too late or bring in Billy Davies or Martin Allen since they're available - after all, they can't be any worse than the clown we've already got can they! Poor, ill researched and ill informed signings and and inability to adapt style of play to meet the challenge of individual teams. He changes the formation but the ethos remains the same. Any one else notice how we take a kick off? It gets passed straight back to McArdle every time who proceeds to then hoof it upfield, aiming for Hanson or his equivalent, and it almost always either goes out for a throw or just comes straight back. You don't see Wolves doing that! A great Liverpool manager once said "the team that crosses the half way line with possession wins the game". Parkinson failed with Colchester and Hull at this level so he's obviously reached the limit of his managerial ability and it's time we looked onwards and upwards instead of clinging on to the past. I'm not, and I'm sure 12,999 other people aren't, going to settle and pay good money to see a team who's happy with lower mid table obscurity week in week out for the next decade![/p][/quote]'ill researched and ill advised singings'. Martin Allen is at Barnet so isnt available, hows that for ill researched...... Get a grip, yeah the performances havent been great on the whole for a while but we need to see it through until the end of the season and recruit over the summer. If we did sack Parky and employ a manager who gets us playing tippy tappy football im sure you would fine something else to complain about and want that manager sacking for as well. Rome wasnt built in a day and this season should be seen as a success for us if we stay up and will be an especially good achievement to finish mid table. Would you rather us have lost the play off final against Northampton so then we could have sacked PP? Look at where Northampton are now, does that put it in perspective how far 'long ball football' that 'doesnt work' gets you? dcbantam
  • Score: 0

1:36pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Statler4 says...

Bantam22 wrote:
Statler4 wrote:
Bantam22 wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
Bantam22 wrote: How many more times are we going to here the same excuses from PP?Every time a side come to VP and play with 5 in midfield we hear the same "we will have to concede the majority of possession" it does not work Phil,please try something different so we play with the ball instead of relying on 2 wingers or long ball to the front man and hoping to pick up scraps.The Valley Parade faithfull who have backed you to the hilt are becomimg restless with the negative tactics we have to endure at the moment.We have been on a rollarcoaster for the last 2 seasons and have endured some of the best moments that any City fan will ever have so please don't spoil the memories Phil with these mundane tactics.
You have just contradicted yourself there. To accuse the manager of playing negative tactics on Saturday is just plain stupid. Yet if he was to play the extra man in midfield people like you will be the first on his back. Your mish-mash posting makes that abundantly clear. It is completely ludicrous to ask the team to play football then jump on their back as soon as they pass the ball. Lazy people come on here and have the bare-faced cheek to acuse Phil of one dimensional football. Yet when the team try to pass the ball and build-up play they have the same clueless individuals demanding the ball is passed into a wall of opposition players. You would never trust these people to manage a football team.
Peter300 you obviously have never played the game (apart from on your xbox)anybody with a grain of intelligence that knows something about the game can see where we are getting beat, the midfield are being over run week in week out because visiting teams have done their homework and know how to counter our tactics at the moment. Instead of slagging everybody who posts a comment on here why don't study what you are saying and come to terms with the vast majority.I don't want to see PP go but if he carries on with plan A and sticks with it we are going in the wrong direction.
Peter300 most certainly has played the game and at a considerably higher level than most people not just on this forum but anywhere!!
Are you his PE teacher Statler4
No, I'm simply stating a fact.
[quote][p][bold]Bantam22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Statler4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bantam22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bantam22[/bold] wrote: How many more times are we going to here the same excuses from PP?Every time a side come to VP and play with 5 in midfield we hear the same "we will have to concede the majority of possession" it does not work Phil,please try something different so we play with the ball instead of relying on 2 wingers or long ball to the front man and hoping to pick up scraps.The Valley Parade faithfull who have backed you to the hilt are becomimg restless with the negative tactics we have to endure at the moment.We have been on a rollarcoaster for the last 2 seasons and have endured some of the best moments that any City fan will ever have so please don't spoil the memories Phil with these mundane tactics.[/p][/quote]You have just contradicted yourself there. To accuse the manager of playing negative tactics on Saturday is just plain stupid. Yet if he was to play the extra man in midfield people like you will be the first on his back. Your mish-mash posting makes that abundantly clear. It is completely ludicrous to ask the team to play football then jump on their back as soon as they pass the ball. Lazy people come on here and have the bare-faced cheek to acuse Phil of one dimensional football. Yet when the team try to pass the ball and build-up play they have the same clueless individuals demanding the ball is passed into a wall of opposition players. You would never trust these people to manage a football team.[/p][/quote]Peter300 you obviously have never played the game (apart from on your xbox)anybody with a grain of intelligence that knows something about the game can see where we are getting beat, the midfield are being over run week in week out because visiting teams have done their homework and know how to counter our tactics at the moment. Instead of slagging everybody who posts a comment on here why don't study what you are saying and come to terms with the vast majority.I don't want to see PP go but if he carries on with plan A and sticks with it we are going in the wrong direction.[/p][/quote]Peter300 most certainly has played the game and at a considerably higher level than most people not just on this forum but anywhere!![/p][/quote]Are you his PE teacher Statler4[/p][/quote]No, I'm simply stating a fact. Statler4
  • Score: -1

2:06pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

It was a shocking performance with the tactics too.
Something has to be done or something will get done to us like telegation at some point in the near future.
All those people who thought Evans would be out of his depth in this division, well l'd sooner swap places eith the pesky Millers. Sadly they play a good brand of football.
It was a shocking performance with the tactics too. Something has to be done or something will get done to us like telegation at some point in the near future. All those people who thought Evans would be out of his depth in this division, well l'd sooner swap places eith the pesky Millers. Sadly they play a good brand of football. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: 1

3:00pm Tue 8 Apr 14

whisky1 says...

Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
It was a shocking performance with the tactics too.
Something has to be done or something will get done to us like telegation at some point in the near future.
All those people who thought Evans would be out of his depth in this division, well l'd sooner swap places eith the pesky Millers. Sadly they play a good brand of football.
They are where they because money is no object..and their Chairman treats the club as his own vanity project. Time will tell if they fall foul of the Financial fair play rules. I would rather get there on merit.
[quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: It was a shocking performance with the tactics too. Something has to be done or something will get done to us like telegation at some point in the near future. All those people who thought Evans would be out of his depth in this division, well l'd sooner swap places eith the pesky Millers. Sadly they play a good brand of football.[/p][/quote]They are where they because money is no object..and their Chairman treats the club as his own vanity project. Time will tell if they fall foul of the Financial fair play rules. I would rather get there on merit. whisky1
  • Score: 2

3:13pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Pablo says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic
On what basis do you think McLean will come good.

The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning.

On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man.

Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.
A large number of loans to cover bad signings? I think not. You are trying to find evidence to justify your opinion but it doesnt stack up.

Reach is in for Reid
Bennett for De Vita
Stead for Hanson
Drury for Meredith

Thats four loans to cover injury. Only Atkinson and Dolan could possibly be considered as replacements for any signings but Dolan has been needed as Cover for Doyle.

As for signings being poor. They were brought in to provide competition but failed to oust the players they were competing with. De Vita and Taylor have then been injured for weeks hence the need for loanees.

Some of the hatred towards PP on this board is sickening. We are above half of the division? What could anypne seriously have expected from this season?

Essentially, most o those who are negative towards PP will never ever be happy with anything. Total lack of reality and utterly clueless about anything.
Yeates was signed as a left winger and was available to cover for Reid., but has been woeful.

De Vita has failed to nail down a place, when fit.

Gray was signed to cover for Hanson but proved a disastrous signing.

Bates was considered by PP to be an able deputy deputy for Meredith, but WE all knew he wasn't.

It's not hatred towards PP. I think he's a nice bloke,. However, he' s not up to the job in this league and has cost us a fortune in dreadful signings.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic[/p][/quote]On what basis do you think McLean will come good. The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning. On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man. Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.[/p][/quote]A large number of loans to cover bad signings? I think not. You are trying to find evidence to justify your opinion but it doesnt stack up. Reach is in for Reid Bennett for De Vita Stead for Hanson Drury for Meredith Thats four loans to cover injury. Only Atkinson and Dolan could possibly be considered as replacements for any signings but Dolan has been needed as Cover for Doyle. As for signings being poor. They were brought in to provide competition but failed to oust the players they were competing with. De Vita and Taylor have then been injured for weeks hence the need for loanees. Some of the hatred towards PP on this board is sickening. We are above half of the division? What could anypne seriously have expected from this season? Essentially, most o those who are negative towards PP will never ever be happy with anything. Total lack of reality and utterly clueless about anything.[/p][/quote]Yeates was signed as a left winger and was available to cover for Reid., but has been woeful. De Vita has failed to nail down a place, when fit. Gray was signed to cover for Hanson but proved a disastrous signing. Bates was considered by PP to be an able deputy deputy for Meredith, but WE all knew he wasn't. It's not hatred towards PP. I think he's a nice bloke,. However, he' s not up to the job in this league and has cost us a fortune in dreadful signings. Pablo
  • Score: 1

4:03pm Tue 8 Apr 14

whisky1 says...

Yeates and Gray were decent signings on the face of it. De Vita was an unknown quantity for me. Yeates could still come good and was seen as a decent Championship player by Watford. He certainly has great feet and lots of ability. He certainly was not bought as cover for anyone but competition for Reid who kept him out of the side early doors because he was on fire. You rewrite history regarding Bates ...he has been used as an emergency left back but was not brought in for that purpose. You are right that there needs to be more care taken this summer in recruitment and a reappraisal of how we approach games at home however PP is the best thing that has happened to this club since 99 and has succeeded where many others have failed. You make some decent points but overall they do not justify wholesale changes. PP is with us barring the unlikely event of relegation and you would be better as a supporter keeping the positivity going which has been so refreshing in the last 2 years. After all we are all in it together ?
Yeates and Gray were decent signings on the face of it. De Vita was an unknown quantity for me. Yeates could still come good and was seen as a decent Championship player by Watford. He certainly has great feet and lots of ability. He certainly was not bought as cover for anyone but competition for Reid who kept him out of the side early doors because he was on fire. You rewrite history regarding Bates ...he has been used as an emergency left back but was not brought in for that purpose. You are right that there needs to be more care taken this summer in recruitment and a reappraisal of how we approach games at home however PP is the best thing that has happened to this club since 99 and has succeeded where many others have failed. You make some decent points but overall they do not justify wholesale changes. PP is with us barring the unlikely event of relegation and you would be better as a supporter keeping the positivity going which has been so refreshing in the last 2 years. After all we are all in it together ? whisky1
  • Score: 0

5:22pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Pablo says...

whisky1 wrote:
Yeates and Gray were decent signings on the face of it. De Vita was an unknown quantity for me. Yeates could still come good and was seen as a decent Championship player by Watford. He certainly has great feet and lots of ability. He certainly was not bought as cover for anyone but competition for Reid who kept him out of the side early doors because he was on fire. You rewrite history regarding Bates ...he has been used as an emergency left back but was not brought in for that purpose. You are right that there needs to be more care taken this summer in recruitment and a reappraisal of how we approach games at home however PP is the best thing that has happened to this club since 99 and has succeeded where many others have failed. You make some decent points but overall they do not justify wholesale changes. PP is with us barring the unlikely event of relegation and you would be better as a supporter keeping the positivity going which has been so refreshing in the last 2 years. After all we are all in it together ?
We can't afford to dump PP, so he's here for the foreseeable.

We'll survive relegation, thanks to Nahki's goals at the beginning of the season. A woeful mid season run of something like one win in nineteen games run, one point from the last four home games. Out thought by opposing managers this season, never more so than by rookie manager Lee Johnson last Saturday. More concerning for me has been the inability to motivate the team, in recent games. Has he lost the dressing room?

I really like the guy and every time I visit the training ground, he takes the trouble to exchange pleasantries. I'd love him to succeed but, right now, he's failing.
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: Yeates and Gray were decent signings on the face of it. De Vita was an unknown quantity for me. Yeates could still come good and was seen as a decent Championship player by Watford. He certainly has great feet and lots of ability. He certainly was not bought as cover for anyone but competition for Reid who kept him out of the side early doors because he was on fire. You rewrite history regarding Bates ...he has been used as an emergency left back but was not brought in for that purpose. You are right that there needs to be more care taken this summer in recruitment and a reappraisal of how we approach games at home however PP is the best thing that has happened to this club since 99 and has succeeded where many others have failed. You make some decent points but overall they do not justify wholesale changes. PP is with us barring the unlikely event of relegation and you would be better as a supporter keeping the positivity going which has been so refreshing in the last 2 years. After all we are all in it together ?[/p][/quote]We can't afford to dump PP, so he's here for the foreseeable. We'll survive relegation, thanks to Nahki's goals at the beginning of the season. A woeful mid season run of something like one win in nineteen games run, one point from the last four home games. Out thought by opposing managers this season, never more so than by rookie manager Lee Johnson last Saturday. More concerning for me has been the inability to motivate the team, in recent games. Has he lost the dressing room? I really like the guy and every time I visit the training ground, he takes the trouble to exchange pleasantries. I'd love him to succeed but, right now, he's failing. Pablo
  • Score: -1

10:24pm Tue 8 Apr 14

eldwick person says...

Rotherham lost tonight in the 90th minute to sheffield united which probably ends rotherham chance of automatic promotion. Hopefully a few extra days prep for the bantams in what will be a very tough game for us on Friday.

On the up side both teams below us also lost tonight.
Rotherham lost tonight in the 90th minute to sheffield united which probably ends rotherham chance of automatic promotion. Hopefully a few extra days prep for the bantams in what will be a very tough game for us on Friday. On the up side both teams below us also lost tonight. eldwick person
  • Score: 0

11:05pm Tue 8 Apr 14

KnightMcCall says...

Pablo wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic
On what basis do you think McLean will come good.

The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning.

On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man.

Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.
A large number of loans to cover bad signings? I think not. You are trying to find evidence to justify your opinion but it doesnt stack up.

Reach is in for Reid
Bennett for De Vita
Stead for Hanson
Drury for Meredith

Thats four loans to cover injury. Only Atkinson and Dolan could possibly be considered as replacements for any signings but Dolan has been needed as Cover for Doyle.

As for signings being poor. They were brought in to provide competition but failed to oust the players they were competing with. De Vita and Taylor have then been injured for weeks hence the need for loanees.

Some of the hatred towards PP on this board is sickening. We are above half of the division? What could anypne seriously have expected from this season?

Essentially, most o those who are negative towards PP will never ever be happy with anything. Total lack of reality and utterly clueless about anything.
Yeates was signed as a left winger and was available to cover for Reid., but has been woeful.

De Vita has failed to nail down a place, when fit.

Gray was signed to cover for Hanson but proved a disastrous signing.

Bates was considered by PP to be an able deputy deputy for Meredith, but WE all knew he wasn't.

It's not hatred towards PP. I think he's a nice bloke,. However, he' s not up to the job in this league and has cost us a fortune in dreadful signings.
And again with the not up to it in this league. He has won promotion from this league...we are 12th having lost our best player.

Did you say Will Atkinson was crap when he was on loan? He proved many wrong when he got going as did Thommo.

Judging with hindsight is easy. Yeates and De Vita were good signings and made Reid in particular work hard for his place. The other signings were only ever cover players to replace Atkinson and Hines. We simply do not have the cash to improve every section of the team. The signings of Reach, Drury and Dolan and in some games Bennett have proven invaluable.

As for saying Bates was ever intended as a left back thats just nonsense. Left backs are few and far between hence the difficulty getting a replacement for Meredith. ..who was another excellent PP signing.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic[/p][/quote]On what basis do you think McLean will come good. The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning. On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man. Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.[/p][/quote]A large number of loans to cover bad signings? I think not. You are trying to find evidence to justify your opinion but it doesnt stack up. Reach is in for Reid Bennett for De Vita Stead for Hanson Drury for Meredith Thats four loans to cover injury. Only Atkinson and Dolan could possibly be considered as replacements for any signings but Dolan has been needed as Cover for Doyle. As for signings being poor. They were brought in to provide competition but failed to oust the players they were competing with. De Vita and Taylor have then been injured for weeks hence the need for loanees. Some of the hatred towards PP on this board is sickening. We are above half of the division? What could anypne seriously have expected from this season? Essentially, most o those who are negative towards PP will never ever be happy with anything. Total lack of reality and utterly clueless about anything.[/p][/quote]Yeates was signed as a left winger and was available to cover for Reid., but has been woeful. De Vita has failed to nail down a place, when fit. Gray was signed to cover for Hanson but proved a disastrous signing. Bates was considered by PP to be an able deputy deputy for Meredith, but WE all knew he wasn't. It's not hatred towards PP. I think he's a nice bloke,. However, he' s not up to the job in this league and has cost us a fortune in dreadful signings.[/p][/quote]And again with the not up to it in this league. He has won promotion from this league...we are 12th having lost our best player. Did you say Will Atkinson was crap when he was on loan? He proved many wrong when he got going as did Thommo. Judging with hindsight is easy. Yeates and De Vita were good signings and made Reid in particular work hard for his place. The other signings were only ever cover players to replace Atkinson and Hines. We simply do not have the cash to improve every section of the team. The signings of Reach, Drury and Dolan and in some games Bennett have proven invaluable. As for saying Bates was ever intended as a left back thats just nonsense. Left backs are few and far between hence the difficulty getting a replacement for Meredith. ..who was another excellent PP signing. KnightMcCall
  • Score: 0

11:09pm Tue 8 Apr 14

KnightMcCall says...

Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Yeates and Gray were decent signings on the face of it. De Vita was an unknown quantity for me. Yeates could still come good and was seen as a decent Championship player by Watford. He certainly has great feet and lots of ability. He certainly was not bought as cover for anyone but competition for Reid who kept him out of the side early doors because he was on fire. You rewrite history regarding Bates ...he has been used as an emergency left back but was not brought in for that purpose. You are right that there needs to be more care taken this summer in recruitment and a reappraisal of how we approach games at home however PP is the best thing that has happened to this club since 99 and has succeeded where many others have failed. You make some decent points but overall they do not justify wholesale changes. PP is with us barring the unlikely event of relegation and you would be better as a supporter keeping the positivity going which has been so refreshing in the last 2 years. After all we are all in it together ?
We can't afford to dump PP, so he's here for the foreseeable.

We'll survive relegation, thanks to Nahki's goals at the beginning of the season. A woeful mid season run of something like one win in nineteen games run, one point from the last four home games. Out thought by opposing managers this season, never more so than by rookie manager Lee Johnson last Saturday. More concerning for me has been the inability to motivate the team, in recent games. Has he lost the dressing room?

I really like the guy and every time I visit the training ground, he takes the trouble to exchange pleasantries. I'd love him to succeed but, right now, he's failing.
The dressing room didnt look lost at Orient or Cov. More cliched claptrap.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: Yeates and Gray were decent signings on the face of it. De Vita was an unknown quantity for me. Yeates could still come good and was seen as a decent Championship player by Watford. He certainly has great feet and lots of ability. He certainly was not bought as cover for anyone but competition for Reid who kept him out of the side early doors because he was on fire. You rewrite history regarding Bates ...he has been used as an emergency left back but was not brought in for that purpose. You are right that there needs to be more care taken this summer in recruitment and a reappraisal of how we approach games at home however PP is the best thing that has happened to this club since 99 and has succeeded where many others have failed. You make some decent points but overall they do not justify wholesale changes. PP is with us barring the unlikely event of relegation and you would be better as a supporter keeping the positivity going which has been so refreshing in the last 2 years. After all we are all in it together ?[/p][/quote]We can't afford to dump PP, so he's here for the foreseeable. We'll survive relegation, thanks to Nahki's goals at the beginning of the season. A woeful mid season run of something like one win in nineteen games run, one point from the last four home games. Out thought by opposing managers this season, never more so than by rookie manager Lee Johnson last Saturday. More concerning for me has been the inability to motivate the team, in recent games. Has he lost the dressing room? I really like the guy and every time I visit the training ground, he takes the trouble to exchange pleasantries. I'd love him to succeed but, right now, he's failing.[/p][/quote]The dressing room didnt look lost at Orient or Cov. More cliched claptrap. KnightMcCall
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12:43am Wed 9 Apr 14

Bradford1903 says...

I can't remember many, if any criticising the pre season captures at the time, because on paper they looked like good signings, as they had all been regulars for their clubs.

Yeates in a Watford side that was one game away from the premiership; De Vita for Swindon who were in last years league 1 play offs, and Taylor who was part of a Charlton side who walked this division a couple of seasons ago.

I also don't remember anybody criticising the signing of Kennedy after he had performed well against us last season.

It's easy to comment with the benefit of hindsight, but sometimes signings don't work out.

Even someone like Ferguson signed a few duds in his time; off the top of my head I can think of the likes of Milne, Taibi, Kleberson, Veron, Djemba-Djemba, and that guy who I'm not sure ever played a game for them, was it Bebe?
I can't remember many, if any criticising the pre season captures at the time, because on paper they looked like good signings, as they had all been regulars for their clubs. Yeates in a Watford side that was one game away from the premiership; De Vita for Swindon who were in last years league 1 play offs, and Taylor who was part of a Charlton side who walked this division a couple of seasons ago. I also don't remember anybody criticising the signing of Kennedy after he had performed well against us last season. It's easy to comment with the benefit of hindsight, but sometimes signings don't work out. Even someone like Ferguson signed a few duds in his time; off the top of my head I can think of the likes of Milne, Taibi, Kleberson, Veron, Djemba-Djemba, and that guy who I'm not sure ever played a game for them, was it Bebe? Bradford1903
  • Score: 0

9:01am Wed 9 Apr 14

Pablo says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
Pablo wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic
On what basis do you think McLean will come good.

The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning.

On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man.

Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.
A large number of loans to cover bad signings? I think not. You are trying to find evidence to justify your opinion but it doesnt stack up.

Reach is in for Reid
Bennett for De Vita
Stead for Hanson
Drury for Meredith

Thats four loans to cover injury. Only Atkinson and Dolan could possibly be considered as replacements for any signings but Dolan has been needed as Cover for Doyle.

As for signings being poor. They were brought in to provide competition but failed to oust the players they were competing with. De Vita and Taylor have then been injured for weeks hence the need for loanees.

Some of the hatred towards PP on this board is sickening. We are above half of the division? What could anypne seriously have expected from this season?

Essentially, most o those who are negative towards PP will never ever be happy with anything. Total lack of reality and utterly clueless about anything.
Yeates was signed as a left winger and was available to cover for Reid., but has been woeful.

De Vita has failed to nail down a place, when fit.

Gray was signed to cover for Hanson but proved a disastrous signing.

Bates was considered by PP to be an able deputy deputy for Meredith, but WE all knew he wasn't.

It's not hatred towards PP. I think he's a nice bloke,. However, he' s not up to the job in this league and has cost us a fortune in dreadful signings.
And again with the not up to it in this league. He has won promotion from this league...we are 12th having lost our best player.

Did you say Will Atkinson was crap when he was on loan? He proved many wrong when he got going as did Thommo.

Judging with hindsight is easy. Yeates and De Vita were good signings and made Reid in particular work hard for his place. The other signings were only ever cover players to replace Atkinson and Hines. We simply do not have the cash to improve every section of the team. The signings of Reach, Drury and Dolan and in some games Bennett have proven invaluable.

As for saying Bates was ever intended as a left back thats just nonsense. Left backs are few and far between hence the difficulty getting a replacement for Meredith. ..who was another excellent PP signing.
Do you mean the same Will Atkinson that even PP didn't want at the end of last season?

If Yeates and De Vita were good signings, what's happened to them since? They are only in the squad because we're up to the maximum number of loan signings allowed. Gray, Kennedy, Bates, Taylor, Yeates and De Vita - all good signings.... which turned out not to be!

The more you comment, the bigger the hole you dig for yourself.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: Summer recruitment has not worked out (thus far)..Yeates is a good player but he has not shown enough apart from early doors.Ditto the Italian. Given time Mcclean will be ok. PP will privately accept the summer influx did not help us kick on and he will learn from it. PP is far from perfect but overall he has been a massive plus for the club and the Board will not ditch him so all this blather is somewhat academic[/p][/quote]On what basis do you think McLean will come good. The guy has dropped down two divisions and should have been a "stand out" player who could fashion goals out of nothing, particularly in view of the big wedge he's earning. On what I've seen, he's a five goal a season man. Perversely PP's lack of success with his permanent signings, and need to resort to a large number of loans to remedy, has safeguarded his position because the club don't have the funds to terminate his contract anyway.[/p][/quote]A large number of loans to cover bad signings? I think not. You are trying to find evidence to justify your opinion but it doesnt stack up. Reach is in for Reid Bennett for De Vita Stead for Hanson Drury for Meredith Thats four loans to cover injury. Only Atkinson and Dolan could possibly be considered as replacements for any signings but Dolan has been needed as Cover for Doyle. As for signings being poor. They were brought in to provide competition but failed to oust the players they were competing with. De Vita and Taylor have then been injured for weeks hence the need for loanees. Some of the hatred towards PP on this board is sickening. We are above half of the division? What could anypne seriously have expected from this season? Essentially, most o those who are negative towards PP will never ever be happy with anything. Total lack of reality and utterly clueless about anything.[/p][/quote]Yeates was signed as a left winger and was available to cover for Reid., but has been woeful. De Vita has failed to nail down a place, when fit. Gray was signed to cover for Hanson but proved a disastrous signing. Bates was considered by PP to be an able deputy deputy for Meredith, but WE all knew he wasn't. It's not hatred towards PP. I think he's a nice bloke,. However, he' s not up to the job in this league and has cost us a fortune in dreadful signings.[/p][/quote]And again with the not up to it in this league. He has won promotion from this league...we are 12th having lost our best player. Did you say Will Atkinson was crap when he was on loan? He proved many wrong when he got going as did Thommo. Judging with hindsight is easy. Yeates and De Vita were good signings and made Reid in particular work hard for his place. The other signings were only ever cover players to replace Atkinson and Hines. We simply do not have the cash to improve every section of the team. The signings of Reach, Drury and Dolan and in some games Bennett have proven invaluable. As for saying Bates was ever intended as a left back thats just nonsense. Left backs are few and far between hence the difficulty getting a replacement for Meredith. ..who was another excellent PP signing.[/p][/quote]Do you mean the same Will Atkinson that even PP didn't want at the end of last season? If Yeates and De Vita were good signings, what's happened to them since? They are only in the squad because we're up to the maximum number of loan signings allowed. Gray, Kennedy, Bates, Taylor, Yeates and De Vita - all good signings.... which turned out not to be! The more you comment, the bigger the hole you dig for yourself. Pablo
  • Score: -1

1:35am Thu 10 Apr 14

Bradford1903 says...

To the person who gave my last comment the thumbs down, can they explain why?

I was suggesting that the reason no one criticised the captures at the time, was because they appeared good signings on paper.

It is easy to comment with the benefit of hindsight, and we can all pretend to be the expert criticising after the event.
To the person who gave my last comment the thumbs down, can they explain why? I was suggesting that the reason no one criticised the captures at the time, was because they appeared good signings on paper. It is easy to comment with the benefit of hindsight, and we can all pretend to be the expert criticising after the event. Bradford1903
  • Score: 0

8:08pm Thu 10 Apr 14

bcfc1903 says...

LS9BANTAM wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
BCFC are inconsistent like 90% of the teams in this league. Regarding next season, I'd put BCFC fans back in the Bradford End for starters. The club changed the whole dynamic of the ground by putting away fans back in the Bradford End, a serious mistake on the back of the clubs most successful season in living memory. Let's start by putting that right next season.
No logician to this ? We had poor season after poor with city fans in bradford end and no more than 100 home fans in there last season. It's down to poor signings,at times questionable substitutions and tactics and better quality of opposition. No proper reserve team giving fringe players adequate game time to improve competition. I don't go 100% with parky has to be stuck with as exults are what matter and since first ten games we have been nothing more than bottom four material. Huge overhaul required in summer and 10/15 games to show we can progress at this level and beyond or change at top required. Crowds will be less by about 1k a game so a much cleverer dip in the transfer mkt a must. The foundations are there , let's crawl over the line this season and then can get optimistic again.
Can't agree regarding the Bradford End, I believe most teams are moving the away fans from behind the goals to the side ie Leeds, Middlesbrough, if you go abroad you'll find the away fans stuck in the gods or in a corner. So away fans behind the goals give a different dimension to the game in regards to the away team. Having the away fans in the Midland Road stand instead of the Bradford End probably means an extra three or four points a season, so moving them to the Bradford End this season was sheer lunacy, every advantage should be used when trying to get the most advantage for BCFC at Valley Parade, the Idea that you would change the dynamics of the ground when playing better teams also is the thinking of a complete idiot. BCFC need to move the away support back into the Midland Road next season, it's a nobrainer!!!!

I'm already optimistic thanks.
[quote][p][bold]LS9BANTAM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: BCFC are inconsistent like 90% of the teams in this league. Regarding next season, I'd put BCFC fans back in the Bradford End for starters. The club changed the whole dynamic of the ground by putting away fans back in the Bradford End, a serious mistake on the back of the clubs most successful season in living memory. Let's start by putting that right next season.[/p][/quote]No logician to this ? We had poor season after poor with city fans in bradford end and no more than 100 home fans in there last season. It's down to poor signings,at times questionable substitutions and tactics and better quality of opposition. No proper reserve team giving fringe players adequate game time to improve competition. I don't go 100% with parky has to be stuck with as exults are what matter and since first ten games we have been nothing more than bottom four material. Huge overhaul required in summer and 10/15 games to show we can progress at this level and beyond or change at top required. Crowds will be less by about 1k a game so a much cleverer dip in the transfer mkt a must. The foundations are there , let's crawl over the line this season and then can get optimistic again.[/p][/quote]Can't agree regarding the Bradford End, I believe most teams are moving the away fans from behind the goals to the side ie Leeds, Middlesbrough, if you go abroad you'll find the away fans stuck in the gods or in a corner. So away fans behind the goals give a different dimension to the game in regards to the away team. Having the away fans in the Midland Road stand instead of the Bradford End probably means an extra three or four points a season, so moving them to the Bradford End this season was sheer lunacy, every advantage should be used when trying to get the most advantage for BCFC at Valley Parade, the Idea that you would change the dynamics of the ground when playing better teams also is the thinking of a complete idiot. BCFC need to move the away support back into the Midland Road next season, it's a nobrainer!!!! I'm already optimistic thanks. bcfc1903
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