Bradford Bulls brace themselves for four-point deduction

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Mark Moore Mark Moore

The Bulls’ punishment for entering administration is set to be announced by the Rugby Football League tomorrow.

The threat of a points deduction has been looming since OK Bulls Ltd, the club’s former holding company, was placed into administration on January 31.

The current board of directors met RFL officials at Red Hall yesterday as they seek ratification of Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd being approved as the new owners.

It is understood they were told of the sanctions the club faces and a four-point penalty seems the most likely outcome.

Bradford Bulls 2014 had their bid for the club accepted by administrator David Wilson last Thursday and have spoken of their willingness to work with creditors.

When OK Bulls was placed into administration, Bulls chairman Mark Moore issued a statement on the club’s official website declaring that his side would not be docked points.

The statement was hastily removed and Moore issued an apology saying: “My newness to the sport means I still have some structural conditions to become familiar with."

Wakefield are believed to be among a number of Super League clubs who have expressed their concerns to the RFL about the Bulls’ latest administration and an announcement on the penalty is now imminent.

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7:26am Tue 25 Feb 14

bradfordbronco says...

The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.
The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap. bradfordbronco
  • Score: 21

8:20am Tue 25 Feb 14

Ever positive says...

bradfordbronco wrote:
The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.
Wakefield seem hell bent in hampering the Bulls on and off the field by any means. Tempting Sammut away has probably cost us quite a few points and gained Wakefield points at the same time, a double whammy. Also like the rest of the clubs they have received a portion of our Sky money for the last two years.
[quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.[/p][/quote]Wakefield seem hell bent in hampering the Bulls on and off the field by any means. Tempting Sammut away has probably cost us quite a few points and gained Wakefield points at the same time, a double whammy. Also like the rest of the clubs they have received a portion of our Sky money for the last two years. Ever positive
  • Score: 13

8:32am Tue 25 Feb 14

oddshapedballs says...

bradfordbronco wrote:
The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.
Quite agree. How can the league be equal when there are an uneven number of matches played and we get the honour of playing last seasons league leaders. Great concept but change it to a 9's comp that has no effect on league positions and stop this bias.
[quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.[/p][/quote]Quite agree. How can the league be equal when there are an uneven number of matches played and we get the honour of playing last seasons league leaders. Great concept but change it to a 9's comp that has no effect on league positions and stop this bias. oddshapedballs
  • Score: 10

8:37am Tue 25 Feb 14

Solomon Grundy says...

The RFL should be docked points themselves, their decision to buy the lease on the ground and lie about why they were doing so to prop up the catastrophic Hood regime, followed by this ridiculous and unjust decision to deny us the sky money so we can't get back on an even keel and compete. It is a disgrace frankly and they should be removed form office, starting with Nigel Wood.
The RFL should be docked points themselves, their decision to buy the lease on the ground and lie about why they were doing so to prop up the catastrophic Hood regime, followed by this ridiculous and unjust decision to deny us the sky money so we can't get back on an even keel and compete. It is a disgrace frankly and they should be removed form office, starting with Nigel Wood. Solomon Grundy
  • Score: 18

9:03am Tue 25 Feb 14

tinytoonster says...

Ever positive wrote:
bradfordbronco wrote:
The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.
Wakefield seem hell bent in hampering the Bulls on and off the field by any means. Tempting Sammut away has probably cost us quite a few points and gained Wakefield points at the same time, a double whammy. Also like the rest of the clubs they have received a portion of our Sky money for the last two years.
they took a player, hardly got a relevance in the grand scheme.
if you cannot do the time, do not do the crime.
what about all the people who have been stiffed AGAIN on debts?
if you owed me money i would tell rfl to pay me from rest of your sky money.
selfish club.
[quote][p][bold]Ever positive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.[/p][/quote]Wakefield seem hell bent in hampering the Bulls on and off the field by any means. Tempting Sammut away has probably cost us quite a few points and gained Wakefield points at the same time, a double whammy. Also like the rest of the clubs they have received a portion of our Sky money for the last two years.[/p][/quote]they took a player, hardly got a relevance in the grand scheme. if you cannot do the time, do not do the crime. what about all the people who have been stiffed AGAIN on debts? if you owed me money i would tell rfl to pay me from rest of your sky money. selfish club. tinytoonster
  • Score: -19

9:17am Tue 25 Feb 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Wakefield are scared they will be relegated, and think that a harsher penalty or even kicking us out of SL would make them safe. It's understandable in a way.

Even if we got a 6 point deduction (and the Giants at Magic weekend) , I'd feel confident of finishing above them though, they were abysmal on Thursday. And the crowd was pitiful. People have a go at us for low crowds, but I bet we average double what Wakefield get.
Wakefield are scared they will be relegated, and think that a harsher penalty or even kicking us out of SL would make them safe. It's understandable in a way. Even if we got a 6 point deduction (and the Giants at Magic weekend) , I'd feel confident of finishing above them though, they were abysmal on Thursday. And the crowd was pitiful. People have a go at us for low crowds, but I bet we average double what Wakefield get. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 7

9:33am Tue 25 Feb 14

Bone_idle18 says...

tinytoonster wrote:
Ever positive wrote:
bradfordbronco wrote:
The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.
Wakefield seem hell bent in hampering the Bulls on and off the field by any means. Tempting Sammut away has probably cost us quite a few points and gained Wakefield points at the same time, a double whammy. Also like the rest of the clubs they have received a portion of our Sky money for the last two years.
they took a player, hardly got a relevance in the grand scheme.
if you cannot do the time, do not do the crime.
what about all the people who have been stiffed AGAIN on debts?
if you owed me money i would tell rfl to pay me from rest of your sky money.
selfish club.
But they are agreeing to repay creditors, the only reason for Administration was because Omar wouldn't sell the club and there was a stalemate.
If stories are to be believed, some of the borrowing was in Omar's name, and the new owners were not prepared to take on debts that were not in the clubs name. I could be wrong, someone will no doubt correct me.
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ever positive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.[/p][/quote]Wakefield seem hell bent in hampering the Bulls on and off the field by any means. Tempting Sammut away has probably cost us quite a few points and gained Wakefield points at the same time, a double whammy. Also like the rest of the clubs they have received a portion of our Sky money for the last two years.[/p][/quote]they took a player, hardly got a relevance in the grand scheme. if you cannot do the time, do not do the crime. what about all the people who have been stiffed AGAIN on debts? if you owed me money i would tell rfl to pay me from rest of your sky money. selfish club.[/p][/quote]But they are agreeing to repay creditors, the only reason for Administration was because Omar wouldn't sell the club and there was a stalemate. If stories are to be believed, some of the borrowing was in Omar's name, and the new owners were not prepared to take on debts that were not in the clubs name. I could be wrong, someone will no doubt correct me. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 5

9:48am Tue 25 Feb 14

bfdbull says...

tinytoonster wrote:
Ever positive wrote:
bradfordbronco wrote:
The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.
Wakefield seem hell bent in hampering the Bulls on and off the field by any means. Tempting Sammut away has probably cost us quite a few points and gained Wakefield points at the same time, a double whammy. Also like the rest of the clubs they have received a portion of our Sky money for the last two years.
they took a player, hardly got a relevance in the grand scheme.
if you cannot do the time, do not do the crime.
what about all the people who have been stiffed AGAIN on debts?
if you owed me money i would tell rfl to pay me from rest of your sky money.
selfish club.
tinytoonster says...
they took a player, hardly got a relevance in the grand scheme.
if you cannot do the time, do not do the crime.
what about all the people who have been stiffed AGAIN on debts?
if you owed me money i would tell rfl to pay me from rest of your sky money.
selfish club.

yes take money to pay creditor fine but explan why bulls sky money gets split between the other clubs, why should others get he money should be put to creditors or pu back in to game advertise, grass roots who's the selfish club??
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ever positive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.[/p][/quote]Wakefield seem hell bent in hampering the Bulls on and off the field by any means. Tempting Sammut away has probably cost us quite a few points and gained Wakefield points at the same time, a double whammy. Also like the rest of the clubs they have received a portion of our Sky money for the last two years.[/p][/quote]they took a player, hardly got a relevance in the grand scheme. if you cannot do the time, do not do the crime. what about all the people who have been stiffed AGAIN on debts? if you owed me money i would tell rfl to pay me from rest of your sky money. selfish club.[/p][/quote]tinytoonster says... they took a player, hardly got a relevance in the grand scheme. if you cannot do the time, do not do the crime. what about all the people who have been stiffed AGAIN on debts? if you owed me money i would tell rfl to pay me from rest of your sky money. selfish club. yes take money to pay creditor fine but explan why bulls sky money gets split between the other clubs, why should others get he money should be put to creditors or pu back in to game advertise, grass roots who's the selfish club?? bfdbull
  • Score: 9

9:49am Tue 25 Feb 14

tinytoonster says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
Ever positive wrote:
bradfordbronco wrote:
The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.
Wakefield seem hell bent in hampering the Bulls on and off the field by any means. Tempting Sammut away has probably cost us quite a few points and gained Wakefield points at the same time, a double whammy. Also like the rest of the clubs they have received a portion of our Sky money for the last two years.
they took a player, hardly got a relevance in the grand scheme.
if you cannot do the time, do not do the crime.
what about all the people who have been stiffed AGAIN on debts?
if you owed me money i would tell rfl to pay me from rest of your sky money.
selfish club.
But they are agreeing to repay creditors, the only reason for Administration was because Omar wouldn't sell the club and there was a stalemate.
If stories are to be believed, some of the borrowing was in Omar's name, and the new owners were not prepared to take on debts that were not in the clubs name. I could be wrong, someone will no doubt correct me.
so because he would not sell they just took it off him!
sounds much better!
my neighbour as a nice car but he wont sell me it.
i know i'll take it!
fantastic way of thinking.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ever positive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.[/p][/quote]Wakefield seem hell bent in hampering the Bulls on and off the field by any means. Tempting Sammut away has probably cost us quite a few points and gained Wakefield points at the same time, a double whammy. Also like the rest of the clubs they have received a portion of our Sky money for the last two years.[/p][/quote]they took a player, hardly got a relevance in the grand scheme. if you cannot do the time, do not do the crime. what about all the people who have been stiffed AGAIN on debts? if you owed me money i would tell rfl to pay me from rest of your sky money. selfish club.[/p][/quote]But they are agreeing to repay creditors, the only reason for Administration was because Omar wouldn't sell the club and there was a stalemate. If stories are to be believed, some of the borrowing was in Omar's name, and the new owners were not prepared to take on debts that were not in the clubs name. I could be wrong, someone will no doubt correct me.[/p][/quote]so because he would not sell they just took it off him! sounds much better! my neighbour as a nice car but he wont sell me it. i know i'll take it! fantastic way of thinking. tinytoonster
  • Score: -11

9:51am Tue 25 Feb 14

tinytoonster says...

bfdbull wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
Ever positive wrote:
bradfordbronco wrote:
The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.
Wakefield seem hell bent in hampering the Bulls on and off the field by any means. Tempting Sammut away has probably cost us quite a few points and gained Wakefield points at the same time, a double whammy. Also like the rest of the clubs they have received a portion of our Sky money for the last two years.
they took a player, hardly got a relevance in the grand scheme.
if you cannot do the time, do not do the crime.
what about all the people who have been stiffed AGAIN on debts?
if you owed me money i would tell rfl to pay me from rest of your sky money.
selfish club.
tinytoonster says...
they took a player, hardly got a relevance in the grand scheme.
if you cannot do the time, do not do the crime.
what about all the people who have been stiffed AGAIN on debts?
if you owed me money i would tell rfl to pay me from rest of your sky money.
selfish club.

yes take money to pay creditor fine but explan why bulls sky money gets split between the other clubs, why should others get he money should be put to creditors or pu back in to game advertise, grass roots who's the selfish club??
i agree with the last point but thats what the clubs and league voted for.
i never said the others were not selfish.
[quote][p][bold]bfdbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ever positive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.[/p][/quote]Wakefield seem hell bent in hampering the Bulls on and off the field by any means. Tempting Sammut away has probably cost us quite a few points and gained Wakefield points at the same time, a double whammy. Also like the rest of the clubs they have received a portion of our Sky money for the last two years.[/p][/quote]they took a player, hardly got a relevance in the grand scheme. if you cannot do the time, do not do the crime. what about all the people who have been stiffed AGAIN on debts? if you owed me money i would tell rfl to pay me from rest of your sky money. selfish club.[/p][/quote]tinytoonster says... they took a player, hardly got a relevance in the grand scheme. if you cannot do the time, do not do the crime. what about all the people who have been stiffed AGAIN on debts? if you owed me money i would tell rfl to pay me from rest of your sky money. selfish club. yes take money to pay creditor fine but explan why bulls sky money gets split between the other clubs, why should others get he money should be put to creditors or pu back in to game advertise, grass roots who's the selfish club??[/p][/quote]i agree with the last point but thats what the clubs and league voted for. i never said the others were not selfish. tinytoonster
  • Score: -10

9:57am Tue 25 Feb 14

bfdbull says...

tinytoonster says...
they took a player, hardly got a relevance in the grand scheme.
if you cannot do the time, do not do the crime.
what about all the people who have been stiffed AGAIN on debts?
if you owed me money i would tell rfl to pay me from rest of your sky money.
selfish club.

bfdbull says.....
yes take sky money to pay back money but why should the other clubs get it shared between them? if anything else put it back in grass roots, expanding or advertising how is giving it to other clubs fair who's selfish? bulls only went into admin because khan wouldn't sign club over, rfl gave fit and proper to new regime ages ago it was a technicality into admin because ofmr khan
tinytoonster says... they took a player, hardly got a relevance in the grand scheme. if you cannot do the time, do not do the crime. what about all the people who have been stiffed AGAIN on debts? if you owed me money i would tell rfl to pay me from rest of your sky money. selfish club. bfdbull says..... yes take sky money to pay back money but why should the other clubs get it shared between them? if anything else put it back in grass roots, expanding or advertising how is giving it to other clubs fair who's selfish? bulls only went into admin because khan wouldn't sign club over, rfl gave fit and proper to new regime ages ago it was a technicality into admin because ofmr khan bfdbull
  • Score: 2

10:35am Tue 25 Feb 14

Videoref says...

Ever positive wrote:
bradfordbronco wrote:
The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.
Wakefield seem hell bent in hampering the Bulls on and off the field by any means. Tempting Sammut away has probably cost us quite a few points and gained Wakefield points at the same time, a double whammy. Also like the rest of the clubs they have received a portion of our Sky money for the last two years.
And put one of our best players out for 3 months
[quote][p][bold]Ever positive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: The RFL have almost certainly docked us 2 points already by making us play Huddersfield at magic weekend. Tee team that finished top against a team battling against relegation, ask Wakefield how they feel about that. If they think that's fair, them maybe they'd like to do swap.[/p][/quote]Wakefield seem hell bent in hampering the Bulls on and off the field by any means. Tempting Sammut away has probably cost us quite a few points and gained Wakefield points at the same time, a double whammy. Also like the rest of the clubs they have received a portion of our Sky money for the last two years.[/p][/quote]And put one of our best players out for 3 months Videoref
  • Score: 7

12:23pm Tue 25 Feb 14

flashdonut says...

Hang on a minute. Are some of you saying Wakey do not want to get relegated? Well blow me down with a feather.
.
Seriously folks. Man up. I am as gutted as anybody about the threat of relegation. But we did the crime now we do the time. Wakey signing Sammut was a masterstroke by them. The one genuine 'game changer' we had. A bloke that scored over twenty tries last season. That signing was not so much as Wakey wanting him as much as Wakey not wanting us to have him.
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What goes around and all that. Nobody complained when we tapped up Solomona.
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We have to deal with it, not moan and bleat like washer women.
Hang on a minute. Are some of you saying Wakey do not want to get relegated? Well blow me down with a feather. . Seriously folks. Man up. I am as gutted as anybody about the threat of relegation. But we did the crime now we do the time. Wakey signing Sammut was a masterstroke by them. The one genuine 'game changer' we had. A bloke that scored over twenty tries last season. That signing was not so much as Wakey wanting him as much as Wakey not wanting us to have him. . What goes around and all that. Nobody complained when we tapped up Solomona. . We have to deal with it, not moan and bleat like washer women. flashdonut
  • Score: 11

12:39pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Bone_idle18 says...

flashdonut wrote:
Hang on a minute. Are some of you saying Wakey do not want to get relegated? Well blow me down with a feather.
.
Seriously folks. Man up. I am as gutted as anybody about the threat of relegation. But we did the crime now we do the time. Wakey signing Sammut was a masterstroke by them. The one genuine 'game changer' we had. A bloke that scored over twenty tries last season. That signing was not so much as Wakey wanting him as much as Wakey not wanting us to have him.
.
What goes around and all that. Nobody complained when we tapped up Solomona.
.
We have to deal with it, not moan and bleat like washer women.
I complained about Solomona!!!! Thought he was lazy and overweight. I was right!

I'm not moaning about any punishment we'll get from the RFL - it's just a bit rich that, a club who has been in similar financial dire straights, decides to stick it's oar in and demand the harshest punishment for us.

They should keep their beaks out of it and let the RFL do their job.
[quote][p][bold]flashdonut[/bold] wrote: Hang on a minute. Are some of you saying Wakey do not want to get relegated? Well blow me down with a feather. . Seriously folks. Man up. I am as gutted as anybody about the threat of relegation. But we did the crime now we do the time. Wakey signing Sammut was a masterstroke by them. The one genuine 'game changer' we had. A bloke that scored over twenty tries last season. That signing was not so much as Wakey wanting him as much as Wakey not wanting us to have him. . What goes around and all that. Nobody complained when we tapped up Solomona. . We have to deal with it, not moan and bleat like washer women.[/p][/quote]I complained about Solomona!!!! Thought he was lazy and overweight. I was right! I'm not moaning about any punishment we'll get from the RFL - it's just a bit rich that, a club who has been in similar financial dire straights, decides to stick it's oar in and demand the harshest punishment for us. They should keep their beaks out of it and let the RFL do their job. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 4

12:40pm Tue 25 Feb 14

raisemeup says...

Does anyone else think that Bradford were deducted the Sky money to appease the other Clubs who were expecting a share of the RFL sponsor which never materialised.I could understand if the money had been used for the good of the game - instead it was part and parcel of our going into admin again. No Club can survive in SL with a £600,000 deduction in revenue and 7 weeks without income. Plus having to maintain a ground for which we pay rent. Our biggest mistake was letting the Stadium go to the RFL in the Hood era as this lost our standing with the Bank, having no collatural,and therefore no overdraft facility. This is something P Hood said in his last article in the T & A when he said on agreeing to release the stadium the goal posts where changed by the RFL. Think it.is time for a rethink on our governance of the game,
Does anyone else think that Bradford were deducted the Sky money to appease the other Clubs who were expecting a share of the RFL sponsor which never materialised.I could understand if the money had been used for the good of the game - instead it was part and parcel of our going into admin again. No Club can survive in SL with a £600,000 deduction in revenue and 7 weeks without income. Plus having to maintain a ground for which we pay rent. Our biggest mistake was letting the Stadium go to the RFL in the Hood era as this lost our standing with the Bank, having no collatural,and therefore no overdraft facility. This is something P Hood said in his last article in the T & A when he said on agreeing to release the stadium the goal posts where changed by the RFL. Think it.is time for a rethink on our governance of the game, raisemeup
  • Score: 3

1:27pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

raisemeup wrote:
Does anyone else think that Bradford were deducted the Sky money to appease the other Clubs who were expecting a share of the RFL sponsor which never materialised.I could understand if the money had been used for the good of the game - instead it was part and parcel of our going into admin again. No Club can survive in SL with a £600,000 deduction in revenue and 7 weeks without income. Plus having to maintain a ground for which we pay rent. Our biggest mistake was letting the Stadium go to the RFL in the Hood era as this lost our standing with the Bank, having no collatural,and therefore no overdraft facility. This is something P Hood said in his last article in the T & A when he said on agreeing to release the stadium the goal posts where changed by the RFL. Think it.is time for a rethink on our governance of the game,
In answer to your questions. No I don't think Bulls were deducted sky monies to appease other clubs it was deducted as a deal to put Khan in the No1 spot to take over the club. An offer he could not live up to.

No club can survive with a £600k deduction in revenue. Wrong again if you cut your cloth accordingly you can. Many teams operate on much smaller budgets based on their gate income. Bulls as one of a handful who can obtain a 5 figure crowd therefore could if run right cover such difference. The problem was Khan and Sutcliffe thinking 10k would buy season tickets after being lied to.

Your biggest mistake was letting the stadium go? Not really when in admin if you still owned the stadium anyone could have swooped in and picked it up. As the RFL had it that could not happen. The bank could see the car crash coming, they may have sped it up but the overdraft would have been in doubt due to tighter lending regulations after the crash in 2008.

The Bulls are in this position due to the Bulls, not the RFL. Lose the victim mentality raisemeup.
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: Does anyone else think that Bradford were deducted the Sky money to appease the other Clubs who were expecting a share of the RFL sponsor which never materialised.I could understand if the money had been used for the good of the game - instead it was part and parcel of our going into admin again. No Club can survive in SL with a £600,000 deduction in revenue and 7 weeks without income. Plus having to maintain a ground for which we pay rent. Our biggest mistake was letting the Stadium go to the RFL in the Hood era as this lost our standing with the Bank, having no collatural,and therefore no overdraft facility. This is something P Hood said in his last article in the T & A when he said on agreeing to release the stadium the goal posts where changed by the RFL. Think it.is time for a rethink on our governance of the game,[/p][/quote]In answer to your questions. No I don't think Bulls were deducted sky monies to appease other clubs it was deducted as a deal to put Khan in the No1 spot to take over the club. An offer he could not live up to. No club can survive with a £600k deduction in revenue. Wrong again if you cut your cloth accordingly you can. Many teams operate on much smaller budgets based on their gate income. Bulls as one of a handful who can obtain a 5 figure crowd therefore could if run right cover such difference. The problem was Khan and Sutcliffe thinking 10k would buy season tickets after being lied to. Your biggest mistake was letting the stadium go? Not really when in admin if you still owned the stadium anyone could have swooped in and picked it up. As the RFL had it that could not happen. The bank could see the car crash coming, they may have sped it up but the overdraft would have been in doubt due to tighter lending regulations after the crash in 2008. The Bulls are in this position due to the Bulls, not the RFL. Lose the victim mentality raisemeup. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: -4

2:40pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
Does anyone else think that Bradford were deducted the Sky money to appease the other Clubs who were expecting a share of the RFL sponsor which never materialised.I could understand if the money had been used for the good of the game - instead it was part and parcel of our going into admin again. No Club can survive in SL with a £600,000 deduction in revenue and 7 weeks without income. Plus having to maintain a ground for which we pay rent. Our biggest mistake was letting the Stadium go to the RFL in the Hood era as this lost our standing with the Bank, having no collatural,and therefore no overdraft facility. This is something P Hood said in his last article in the T & A when he said on agreeing to release the stadium the goal posts where changed by the RFL. Think it.is time for a rethink on our governance of the game,
In answer to your questions. No I don't think Bulls were deducted sky monies to appease other clubs it was deducted as a deal to put Khan in the No1 spot to take over the club. An offer he could not live up to.

No club can survive with a £600k deduction in revenue. Wrong again if you cut your cloth accordingly you can. Many teams operate on much smaller budgets based on their gate income. Bulls as one of a handful who can obtain a 5 figure crowd therefore could if run right cover such difference. The problem was Khan and Sutcliffe thinking 10k would buy season tickets after being lied to.

Your biggest mistake was letting the stadium go? Not really when in admin if you still owned the stadium anyone could have swooped in and picked it up. As the RFL had it that could not happen. The bank could see the car crash coming, they may have sped it up but the overdraft would have been in doubt due to tighter lending regulations after the crash in 2008.

The Bulls are in this position due to the Bulls, not the RFL. Lose the victim mentality raisemeup.
Well said

The Bulls have only themselves to blame through mis management in the boardroom and under-performing on the pitch

Still its easier to blame everyone else isn't it. Just like the current muppets running the show are
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: Does anyone else think that Bradford were deducted the Sky money to appease the other Clubs who were expecting a share of the RFL sponsor which never materialised.I could understand if the money had been used for the good of the game - instead it was part and parcel of our going into admin again. No Club can survive in SL with a £600,000 deduction in revenue and 7 weeks without income. Plus having to maintain a ground for which we pay rent. Our biggest mistake was letting the Stadium go to the RFL in the Hood era as this lost our standing with the Bank, having no collatural,and therefore no overdraft facility. This is something P Hood said in his last article in the T & A when he said on agreeing to release the stadium the goal posts where changed by the RFL. Think it.is time for a rethink on our governance of the game,[/p][/quote]In answer to your questions. No I don't think Bulls were deducted sky monies to appease other clubs it was deducted as a deal to put Khan in the No1 spot to take over the club. An offer he could not live up to. No club can survive with a £600k deduction in revenue. Wrong again if you cut your cloth accordingly you can. Many teams operate on much smaller budgets based on their gate income. Bulls as one of a handful who can obtain a 5 figure crowd therefore could if run right cover such difference. The problem was Khan and Sutcliffe thinking 10k would buy season tickets after being lied to. Your biggest mistake was letting the stadium go? Not really when in admin if you still owned the stadium anyone could have swooped in and picked it up. As the RFL had it that could not happen. The bank could see the car crash coming, they may have sped it up but the overdraft would have been in doubt due to tighter lending regulations after the crash in 2008. The Bulls are in this position due to the Bulls, not the RFL. Lose the victim mentality raisemeup.[/p][/quote]Well said The Bulls have only themselves to blame through mis management in the boardroom and under-performing on the pitch Still its easier to blame everyone else isn't it. Just like the current muppets running the show are Andy2010
  • Score: 0

3:27pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Sheffieldbull says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
Does anyone else think that Bradford were deducted the Sky money to appease the other Clubs who were expecting a share of the RFL sponsor which never materialised.I could understand if the money had been used for the good of the game - instead it was part and parcel of our going into admin again. No Club can survive in SL with a £600,000 deduction in revenue and 7 weeks without income. Plus having to maintain a ground for which we pay rent. Our biggest mistake was letting the Stadium go to the RFL in the Hood era as this lost our standing with the Bank, having no collatural,and therefore no overdraft facility. This is something P Hood said in his last article in the T & A when he said on agreeing to release the stadium the goal posts where changed by the RFL. Think it.is time for a rethink on our governance of the game,
In answer to your questions. No I don't think Bulls were deducted sky monies to appease other clubs it was deducted as a deal to put Khan in the No1 spot to take over the club. An offer he could not live up to.

No club can survive with a £600k deduction in revenue. Wrong again if you cut your cloth accordingly you can. Many teams operate on much smaller budgets based on their gate income. Bulls as one of a handful who can obtain a 5 figure crowd therefore could if run right cover such difference. The problem was Khan and Sutcliffe thinking 10k would buy season tickets after being lied to.

Your biggest mistake was letting the stadium go? Not really when in admin if you still owned the stadium anyone could have swooped in and picked it up. As the RFL had it that could not happen. The bank could see the car crash coming, they may have sped it up but the overdraft would have been in doubt due to tighter lending regulations after the crash in 2008.

The Bulls are in this position due to the Bulls, not the RFL. Lose the victim mentality raisemeup.
Well said

The Bulls have only themselves to blame through mis management in the boardroom and under-performing on the pitch

Still its easier to blame everyone else isn't it. Just like the current muppets running the show are
Statler and Waldorf from their Balcony have emerged.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: Does anyone else think that Bradford were deducted the Sky money to appease the other Clubs who were expecting a share of the RFL sponsor which never materialised.I could understand if the money had been used for the good of the game - instead it was part and parcel of our going into admin again. No Club can survive in SL with a £600,000 deduction in revenue and 7 weeks without income. Plus having to maintain a ground for which we pay rent. Our biggest mistake was letting the Stadium go to the RFL in the Hood era as this lost our standing with the Bank, having no collatural,and therefore no overdraft facility. This is something P Hood said in his last article in the T & A when he said on agreeing to release the stadium the goal posts where changed by the RFL. Think it.is time for a rethink on our governance of the game,[/p][/quote]In answer to your questions. No I don't think Bulls were deducted sky monies to appease other clubs it was deducted as a deal to put Khan in the No1 spot to take over the club. An offer he could not live up to. No club can survive with a £600k deduction in revenue. Wrong again if you cut your cloth accordingly you can. Many teams operate on much smaller budgets based on their gate income. Bulls as one of a handful who can obtain a 5 figure crowd therefore could if run right cover such difference. The problem was Khan and Sutcliffe thinking 10k would buy season tickets after being lied to. Your biggest mistake was letting the stadium go? Not really when in admin if you still owned the stadium anyone could have swooped in and picked it up. As the RFL had it that could not happen. The bank could see the car crash coming, they may have sped it up but the overdraft would have been in doubt due to tighter lending regulations after the crash in 2008. The Bulls are in this position due to the Bulls, not the RFL. Lose the victim mentality raisemeup.[/p][/quote]Well said The Bulls have only themselves to blame through mis management in the boardroom and under-performing on the pitch Still its easier to blame everyone else isn't it. Just like the current muppets running the show are[/p][/quote]Statler and Waldorf from their Balcony have emerged. Sheffieldbull
  • Score: -2

3:47pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Sheffieldbull says...

Brace brace brace!
Brace brace brace! Sheffieldbull
  • Score: -1

3:56pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Sheffieldbull says...

The RFL Board of Directors has today ruled that Bradford Bulls will be deducted six points - the equivalent of three competition wins - as a penalty for entering into administration in January 2014.


The Board’s decision follows a full assessment of the circumstances surrounding the club’s administration, which followed a similar insolvency event by Bradford Bulls in June 2012.


The points will be deducted with immediate effect.
The RFL Board of Directors has today ruled that Bradford Bulls will be deducted six points - the equivalent of three competition wins - as a penalty for entering into administration in January 2014. The Board’s decision follows a full assessment of the circumstances surrounding the club’s administration, which followed a similar insolvency event by Bradford Bulls in June 2012. The points will be deducted with immediate effect. Sheffieldbull
  • Score: 0

4:25pm Tue 25 Feb 14

mrrl says...

Now is the time to get behind the team and show the RL that no matter what they throw at us they will not beat us!
Now is the time to get behind the team and show the RL that no matter what they throw at us they will not beat us! mrrl
  • Score: 2

4:25pm Tue 25 Feb 14

slattsdad says...

Well said Flashdonut, TVOR and Sheffbull,As stated earlier wot goes around comes around. i also remember a player at Wakefield being released from his contract because he was homesick, a week or two later he had signed on for the Bulls ( Ben Jeffries.i think that may have been for no fee unlike Wakey who have paid for Sammut) as TVOR correctly stated because Bulls WERE getting big crowds they could spend more on players wages ( you can spend half whats coming in) but years ago some teams played others 3 times during the season, twas marvelous there were no complaints then when you were playing Leeds, Saints and Wigan three times whilst Wakefield played London, Catalans & castleford etc etc etc. Now you bleat cos you have to play Huddersfield at magic weekend bleat bleat bleat even HUll K R nearly turned them over this weekend, The ground which you do not own is a shambles. As an earlier poster said Man up boys times have a changed welcome to reality with some of the other clubs where the highlight of ya season is if you can beat one or two of the big boys and maybe push for the top 8
Well said Flashdonut, TVOR and Sheffbull,As stated earlier wot goes around comes around. i also remember a player at Wakefield being released from his contract because he was homesick, a week or two later he had signed on for the Bulls ( Ben Jeffries.i think that may have been for no fee unlike Wakey who have paid for Sammut) as TVOR correctly stated because Bulls WERE getting big crowds they could spend more on players wages ( you can spend half whats coming in) but years ago some teams played others 3 times during the season, twas marvelous there were no complaints then when you were playing Leeds, Saints and Wigan three times whilst Wakefield played London, Catalans & castleford etc etc etc. Now you bleat cos you have to play Huddersfield at magic weekend bleat bleat bleat even HUll K R nearly turned them over this weekend, The ground which you do not own is a shambles. As an earlier poster said Man up boys times have a changed welcome to reality with some of the other clubs where the highlight of ya season is if you can beat one or two of the big boys and maybe push for the top 8 slattsdad
  • Score: -2

4:34pm Tue 25 Feb 14

mrrl says...

Maybe it's time to move to Valley Parade and leave Odsal in the hands of the RL so they have to run it with no rent coming or did OK sign us up to something else that will come out of the woodwork to haunt us
Maybe it's time to move to Valley Parade and leave Odsal in the hands of the RL so they have to run it with no rent coming or did OK sign us up to something else that will come out of the woodwork to haunt us mrrl
  • Score: 0

4:50pm Tue 25 Feb 14

mrrl says...

Have a look at the bulls website makes very interesting reading as to why robbie and directors have withdrawn offer to buy tthe club
Have a look at the bulls website makes very interesting reading as to why robbie and directors have withdrawn offer to buy tthe club mrrl
  • Score: 2

8:50am Wed 26 Feb 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

Yet again it seems we have another board of Directors that know nothing about the game nor bothered to read through the RFL rules and regs.

I suggest that MM learns the Rules Governing the running of a SL Club soonest before he drops the ball again.
Yet again it seems we have another board of Directors that know nothing about the game nor bothered to read through the RFL rules and regs. I suggest that MM learns the Rules Governing the running of a SL Club soonest before he drops the ball again. fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 0

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