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4:55pm

Captain fantastic Gary Jones struck twice from long range as City clawed their way back for a draw in a thrilling second half.
It’s now ten without a win at home but the Bantams stormed back to rescue this one after trailing Crewe 2-0 and 3-2.
Phil Parkinson made four changes from Molineux and handed an immediate debut to latest loan signing Matty Dolan for the suspended Nathan Doyle.
But City’s first-half performance lacked any edge or creativity in the unpleasant conditions.
The strong, swirling wind played its part – and was instrumental in Crewe’s goal after 11 minutes.
Carl McHugh, who kept his place after Rory McArdle suffered a head injury in training, totally misjudged the flight of Anthony Grant’s through ball.
The defender tried to head back to Jon McLaughlin but missed and Uche Ikpeazu slipped in to finish well with a lob over the stranded keeper.
City came out firing for the second half and Ben Garratt produced a brilliant save to claw away James Hanson’s header.
Then Adam Reach was denied from close range and debutant Dolan put the rebound into the side-netting.
But as City knocked on the door, Crewe broke to double their lead. McLaughlin palmed out Chuks Aneke’s shot and Ikpeazu scored again from the rebound.
City responded straight away as Mclean squared low for James Hanson to turn in from close range.
And Mclean had a hand in the equaliser two minutes later. He laid the ball back for Jones and the skipper drilled into the bottom corner from 25 yards.
City’s comeback could have been completed with 13 minutes left but Hanson scooped over the bar from close range.
The miss proved even more costly when Crewe regained the lead, Aneke setting up Mathias Pogba for a fierce finish.
But City and their indomitable skipper were not finished as Jones struck again with another thunderbolt.

4:54pm

And that's it folks. Deep breaths all round and a point for both sides

4:54pm

Another Crewe corner

4:53pm

Jones puts it in the mixer... still bobbing about. Ref gives goal kick

4:52pm

Long run from Reach to win a City corner. Top work fella...

4:51pm

Aneke unmarked in box! Davies blocks in time and Pogba shot clears the bar

4:51pm

Crewe corner

4:51pm

Davies with a vital interception to cut out Pogba's cross as Aneke lurked in front of goal

4:50pm

Attack, attack, attack shout the Kop.... what do they think City have been doing

4:49pm

Five minutes of extras to go...

4:48pm

Too much on it. That Jones... what does he bring to this team??!!!

4:47pm

Corner for City in last minute of normal time...

4:47pm

Crewe replace Evans with Osman

4:46pm

Crowd is 13,343

4:46pm

Unbelievable point-blank save from Garratt to stop Hanson header!!!

4:45pm

Fine save from McLaughlin at foot of post to turn away shot from Aneke.

4:45pm

Keep that backdoor shut.... Aneke heads over unchallenged

4:44pm

City strike back through the skipper once more!

Mclean again claims the assist as he lays ball off for JONES to hammer another bullet drive into the net from outside box... 3-3

4:42pm

Gone a bit flat again. That goal was a massive deflater for everyone

4:37pm

A fifth goal but it's Crewe back in front. Aneke finds POGBA to right of goal and he thunders shot past McLaughlin...

4:35pm

City make their first change as Thompson comes on for Bennett with 13 minutes to go

4:34pm

Massive chance goes begging.... Reach plays ball into Mclean in box and he sets up Hanson - who scoops it over the bar

4:34pm

Jones has another bang from outside box. This one hits Grant who certainly felt the force...

4:33pm

4:32pm

Reach shows real determination to take on three blue shirts in a foot race and win the throw halfway inside Crewe half

4:31pm

Mclean slides into Tootle right in front of the Crewe dug-out and sparks a bit of jostling..

4:30pm

Good defending from McHugh to thwart Aneke. Another corner to Crewe, though, who are building impetus again

4:29pm

McLaughlin takes the ball safely

4:28pm

Ref gives soft foul against Bennett near City box. Even Grant gets up shaking his head...

4:27pm

Having spoken too soon, Davies and McHugh get in each other's way to gift the cheapest of corners to Crewe

4:27pm

Rain has stopped and it looks a bit brighter. Mighty forces afoot...

4:25pm

Corner for City who look a different team from first half

4:23pm

Crewe take off Ikpeazu, who is not surprisingly unhappy to be subbed.... Moore on

4:20pm

Hanson booked for late tackle on Guthrie

4:20pm

The rain is still pouring but the songs are booming out... City well on top!

4:18pm

And it's 2-2! Jones plays ball into Mclean who lays it back to the skipper to thrash home from 25 yards. Game on ....

4:17pm

City straight back in it..... Mclean squares low cross and HANSON turns in from close range!

4:13pm

Crewe break from heavy City pressure. Aneke's angled shot is parried by McLaughlin and IKPEAZU wins race to convert rebound from tight angle. Crewe 2-0 up

4:12pm

Goal.... at the wrong end!

4:11pm

Mclean drive blocked by Davis in front of goal. Hanson scrambles loose ball wide

4:10pm

Garratt punches clear through crowd of players. How important could that save from Hanson prove to be?

4:09pm

Darby whips in cross which just beats Mclean in front of goal. City corner as the volume cranks up again

4:08pm

The Kop have come alive and so, at long last, have the team...

4:08pm

We've got a game at last ladies and gentlemen...

4:08pm

Reach denied by smothering block from Davis, Dolan slides in on rebound but shot goes into side-netting. City knocking on the door...

4:07pm

Volume shoots up accordingly

4:07pm

Great save by Garratt to claw away Hanson's header from Reach cross. Best chance/only City chance yet...

4:06pm

Finally some urgency about City's play

4:06pm

City trying to use the wind to their advantage. Dolan cross headed away by Ellis as the C'mon City chant booms

4:04pm

Kop cranking up the noise. It needs something

4:02pm

The second half gets underway as the rain continues to swirl...

3:57pm

3:56pm

3:48pm

The ref puts Valley Parade out of its misery. Half-time...

3:47pm

Strength of the wind is clear as McLaughlin's clearance from the edge of his box doesn't even reach the halfway line

3:46pm

C'mon City chant the crowd. Let's have something to cling on to before the break...

3:46pm

That treat for City is two minutes away according to the fourth official's board

3:45pm

Suspect Phil Parkinson will warm his team up with a few well-chosen words in the dressing room..

3:44pm

The rain and cold blustery wind is making this a very miserable experience...

3:44pm

Wifi working as well here as City. But we're back with a shot over the bar from Reach...

3:39pm

Swing and a miss by Crewe defender Ellis gives everyone a much-needed laugh

3:39pm

Depressing to think that City haven't had a shot on target since a week last Tuesday...

3:38pm

Nice skills from Bennett to take ball away from Guthrie but shot lets him down

3:37pm

3:37pm

Grim...

3:35pm

McLaughlin takes a throw-in ... and gets a big cheer!

3:31pm

3:31pm

Surging run from Reach into Crewe territory. Cross too strong for Hanson but that was better from City

3:30pm

Ikpeazu outpaces Davies but Jones shows turn of pace to make covering tackle outside the City box.

3:27pm

Bennett hardly seen any of the ball. Darby tries to get him on a run but the winger puts the cross behind

3:26pm

Jones ready to hit it but Grant charges out of wall to block.

3:26pm

Hanson knocked down by Ellis right on the edge of the Crewe penalty area

3:25pm

Pogba down after taking a whack from team-mate Ikpeazu. Both went for same ball

3:25pm

Crewe's goalkeeper looks about ten.

3:23pm

Spontaneous roar from the crowd in the hope of getting City going. It needs something because they are second best right now

3:22pm

And a fourth...

3:22pm

At the moment Crewe are looking too strong up front as Darby concedes corner number three

3:21pm

Aneke wins header through the pack but only glances it across goal. Ironic cheer as ref gives the throw-in City's way

3:20pm

Bates jumps well to deal with Crewe free-kick at expense of corner.

3:20pm

Home fans not impressed with the referee. No change there

3:17pm

Bates goes all James Meredith and runs 40 yards with the ball. Unfortunately none of his colleagues follow suit...

3:17pm

Decent shot from Davis but it whistled past near post

3:17pm

Jones heads firmly clear at near post but here come Crewe again..

3:16pm

And now Crewe have won a corner

3:16pm

It's suddenly gone very quiet here apart from the odd voice from Staffordshire.

3:14pm

Crewe on the front foot as Pogba drives into the box where his shot is charged down by Davies.

3:13pm

So once again City have it all to do at home....

3:13pm

Said the wind was going to have an impact today. It certainly cost McHugh there

3:12pm

Crewe grab the lead! McHugh tries to head back to McLaughlin but completely misses the ball and IKPEAZU steals in to lob over the keeper. 0-1

3:10pm

Jones shot takes deflection off Davis and loops just wide with keeper Garratt stranded...

3:09pm

Good tackle from McHugh to thwart Aneke after Inman breaks past Jones towards edge of City box.

3:08pm

Aneke cannot direct his header from Pogba's cross.

3:08pm

Jones has a wind-assisted pop from 35 yards. Ball flies into the smattering of Crewe fans in top of TL Dallas Stand

3:07pm

Darby throw-in to box flicked on by Hanson and Dolan volley deflected behind for City corner. Would have been some first touch....

3:06pm

Swirling wind already causing a few problems for players. Nightmare day to be a goalkeeper...

3:03pm

Dangerous low cross from Ikpeazu right across the face of City's goal. Fortunately nobody in there for a touch

3:02pm

Not many here from Crewe

3:01pm

Straight out for a throw-in, wonder what the bet was....??

3:01pm

Crewe get us going and kick towards the Kop, who are in good voice

2:57pm

And here come the teams...

2:57pm

The 0-0 bore between the sides in November was Crewe's only goalless draw for two years. Surely it's got to be better this afternoon?!

2:55pm

2:54pm

Atmosphere building nicely as kick-off approaches. As Aaron Mclean said in today's T&A, this is a massive game for City.

Time to end that home drought at the tenth time of asking!

2:28pm

2:28pm

Reckon this is the first time that Carl McHugh and Andrew Davies have partnered each other in centre of defence.

Only times when they've been in same City team before, McHugh has always played left back.

2:22pm

2:21pm

2:19pm

Radio commentators in for some fun this afternoon with Uche Ikpeazu partnering Chuks Aneke up front for Crewe.

CREWE: Garratt, Tootle, Davis, Ellis, Guthrie, Pogba, Evans, Grant, Inman, Aneke, Ikpeazu. Subs: Mellor, Dugdale, Osman, Leitch-Smtih, Moore, Waters, Phillips.

2:04pm

Matty Dolan comes straight into the City side after his loan went through this morning.

The Middlesbrough midfielder is one of four changes from the Wolves defeat.

James Hanson and Andrew Davies return after being left out at Molineux and Kyle Bennett is back from his one-game suspension.

Out go Andy Gray, Gary Thompson, the suspended Nathan Doyle and Rory McArdle - who suffered concussion after a bang of heads in training yesterday.

Raffaele De Vita makes a return to the bench after the thigh injury that has kept him out since before Christmas.

CITY: McLaughlin, Darby, Davies, McHugh, Bates, Bennett, Dolan, Jones, Reach, Mclean, Hanson. Subs: Gray, Thompson, Taylor, De Vita, McBurnie, Atkinson, Jameson.

1:33pm

1:33pm

No team news for a little while but Matty Dolan's clearance went through this morning to confirm his 93-day loan from Middlesbrough.

Expect him to slot in to central midfield to replace the suspended Nathan Doyle.

1:32pm

Good afternoon and welcome from Valley Parade for City's game against Crewe.

On the positive front, it's dry and the pitch looks remarkably good considering the heavy rain that has been falling during the week.

But be warned, the strong wind is absolutely freezing!

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4:58pm Sat 8 Feb 14

bazzathetyke says...

LOL....
LOL.... bazzathetyke
  • Score: -8

5:08pm Sat 8 Feb 14

bantam10 says...

Please don't reply to the coks last comment
Leeds going nowhere! Ha ha
Please don't reply to the coks last comment Leeds going nowhere! Ha ha bantam10
  • Score: 2

5:17pm Sat 8 Feb 14

bazzathetyke says...

bantam10 wrote:
Please don't reply to the coks last comment
Leeds going nowhere! Ha ha
We WON Today...Huddersfield WON today....We WILL Be in the Play-Offs...You WILL Be in a relegation scrap...Sooner than later.Crewe???..LOL
[quote][p][bold]bantam10[/bold] wrote: Please don't reply to the coks last comment Leeds going nowhere! Ha ha[/p][/quote]We WON Today...Huddersfield WON today....We WILL Be in the Play-Offs...You WILL Be in a relegation scrap...Sooner than later.Crewe???..LOL bazzathetyke
  • Score: -9

5:49pm Sat 8 Feb 14

Olivermac says...

That's just earned jones another contract for next year and well deserved he was fantastic I think a draw was a fair result in bad conditions.
That's just earned jones another contract for next year and well deserved he was fantastic I think a draw was a fair result in bad conditions. Olivermac
  • Score: 8

5:55pm Sat 8 Feb 14

cudelse says...

Not good enough: Parkinson needs to move on; thanks for the memories 'cause at the moment that is all we have. Good night Vienna
Not good enough: Parkinson needs to move on; thanks for the memories 'cause at the moment that is all we have. Good night Vienna cudelse
  • Score: -14

6:25pm Sat 8 Feb 14

I laugh at your vision says...

bazzathetyke wrote:
bantam10 wrote:
Please don't reply to the coks last comment
Leeds going nowhere! Ha ha
We WON Today...Huddersfield WON today....We WILL Be in the Play-Offs...You WILL Be in a relegation scrap...Sooner than later.Crewe???..LOL
Yes, you and your mafia boss owner are really heading back to the big time - that's why you're trolling the City pages because you've beaten fecking YOEVIL. Woooh, well done! Why aren't you on ManUres pages scaring them with tales of your incredible win? After all they're you're big rivals aren't they? Amazing you scumbags still try to be arrogant even though the entire league has been laughing at the circus that's been going on at Bellend Road this last week or so. To$$er
[quote][p][bold]bazzathetyke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam10[/bold] wrote: Please don't reply to the coks last comment Leeds going nowhere! Ha ha[/p][/quote]We WON Today...Huddersfield WON today....We WILL Be in the Play-Offs...You WILL Be in a relegation scrap...Sooner than later.Crewe???..LOL[/p][/quote]Yes, you and your mafia boss owner are really heading back to the big time - that's why you're trolling the City pages because you've beaten fecking YOEVIL. Woooh, well done! Why aren't you on ManUres pages scaring them with tales of your incredible win? After all they're you're big rivals aren't they? Amazing you scumbags still try to be arrogant even though the entire league has been laughing at the circus that's been going on at Bellend Road this last week or so. To$$er I laugh at your vision
  • Score: 13

6:38pm Sat 8 Feb 14

Mr Tii says...

Too easy for a very poor visiting side , Time to say thanks for the memories but you are NOT good enough to take us any further . We need a change or we are and I hate to say it going down !
Too easy for a very poor visiting side , Time to say thanks for the memories but you are NOT good enough to take us any further . We need a change or we are and I hate to say it going down ! Mr Tii
  • Score: -15

6:40pm Sat 8 Feb 14

lawsonio123 says...

Our Powerful attack scores for fun Our Magnificent Midfield rolls over all teams Our Stone Wall Defenders are like a castle wall we sweep every thing before us Now i have woken from my Dream Oh Dear its Crewe and all we have is another Draw oh i wish i could Dream for ever
Our Powerful attack scores for fun Our Magnificent Midfield rolls over all teams Our Stone Wall Defenders are like a castle wall we sweep every thing before us Now i have woken from my Dream Oh Dear its Crewe and all we have is another Draw oh i wish i could Dream for ever lawsonio123
  • Score: -3

6:47pm Sat 8 Feb 14

my only vision says...

I will love to see City get RELEGATED.!!!!!!! Lol...... A Huddersfield fan !!!!!!!!!!
I will love to see City get RELEGATED.!!!!!!! Lol...... A Huddersfield fan !!!!!!!!!! my only vision
  • Score: -13

7:10pm Sat 8 Feb 14

SHOESMAKER24 says...

shocking defensive showing leaking goals for fun just hoping it was to do with the wind because if that is not the case we could find are self in real trouble at home not good anough to be honest but gary jones very well played need to do a lot better come on city
shocking defensive showing leaking goals for fun just hoping it was to do with the wind because if that is not the case we could find are self in real trouble at home not good anough to be honest but gary jones very well played need to do a lot better come on city SHOESMAKER24
  • Score: -5

7:20pm Sat 8 Feb 14

Mr Tii says...

my only vision wrote:
I will love to see City get RELEGATED.!!!!!!! Lol...... A Huddersfield fan !!!!!!!!!!
Stick to comments on your own team you clown , seen more support at a Sunday league game !
[quote][p][bold]my only vision[/bold] wrote: I will love to see City get RELEGATED.!!!!!!! Lol...... A Huddersfield fan !!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Stick to comments on your own team you clown , seen more support at a Sunday league game ! Mr Tii
  • Score: 7

7:36pm Sat 8 Feb 14

eldwick person says...

My only vision go back to your own boards. We do not care about what you say.

City showed a lot of determination to come back today and scored 3 goals. Onwards and upwards!
My only vision go back to your own boards. We do not care about what you say. City showed a lot of determination to come back today and scored 3 goals. Onwards and upwards! eldwick person
  • Score: 10

7:39pm Sat 8 Feb 14

KnightMcCall says...

my only vision wrote:
I will love to see City get RELEGATED.!!!!!!! Lol...... A Huddersfield fan !!!!!!!!!!
No chance. Hanson scoring more regularly now that he has stopped carrying Wells.
[quote][p][bold]my only vision[/bold] wrote: I will love to see City get RELEGATED.!!!!!!! Lol...... A Huddersfield fan !!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]No chance. Hanson scoring more regularly now that he has stopped carrying Wells. KnightMcCall
  • Score: 12

8:58pm Sat 8 Feb 14

Pablo says...

The first half was as bad a display as I've seen from City in a long while. Hanson and McLean just hadn't any form of understanding. Given the number of new signings I guess we can't expect the revamped side to gel immediately, but I have to admire the fighting spirit that PP has engendered.

However, one win in twenty doesn't lie and if we don't get anything from the next two away games, we'll be sucked into a relegation dogfight. What really concerns me is the lack of firepower off the bench.
The first half was as bad a display as I've seen from City in a long while. Hanson and McLean just hadn't any form of understanding. Given the number of new signings I guess we can't expect the revamped side to gel immediately, but I have to admire the fighting spirit that PP has engendered. However, one win in twenty doesn't lie and if we don't get anything from the next two away games, we'll be sucked into a relegation dogfight. What really concerns me is the lack of firepower off the bench. Pablo
  • Score: 3

9:18pm Sat 8 Feb 14

bantam10 says...

my only vision wrote:
I will love to see City get RELEGATED.!!!!!!! Lol...... A Huddersfield fan !!!!!!!!!!
Ha ha how is your Mr Wells doing der brain!
Keeps getting subbed early in the 2nd half!
Your another team who will be in the championship next season then you will realise you have spent too much and go into admin!
Cannot wait!!!
[quote][p][bold]my only vision[/bold] wrote: I will love to see City get RELEGATED.!!!!!!! Lol...... A Huddersfield fan !!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Ha ha how is your Mr Wells doing der brain! Keeps getting subbed early in the 2nd half! Your another team who will be in the championship next season then you will realise you have spent too much and go into admin! Cannot wait!!! bantam10
  • Score: 3

11:40pm Sat 8 Feb 14

mrmuzzy says...

Sorry but parkinson has to go.
one win in twenty is not good enough.
Fair point he's NOT been backed by the board.
Brillant season last season but not good enough this season.
name me another club who would not sack there manager with form as bad as ours.
Time for a change if we want to stay in league one!!!
Sorry but parkinson has to go. one win in twenty is not good enough. Fair point he's NOT been backed by the board. Brillant season last season but not good enough this season. name me another club who would not sack there manager with form as bad as ours. Time for a change if we want to stay in league one!!! mrmuzzy
  • Score: -15

8:28am Sun 9 Feb 14

collos25 says...

Neither are City .
Neither are City . collos25
  • Score: 0

8:52am Sun 9 Feb 14

tinytoonster says...

i think parky only as one tactic but no point sacking him now.
he's got his loan signings so lets see how they go.
i said at the start that the wells money was all gone.
rhodes more or less confirmed it last week.
budget overspend and tribunal money.
not bothered if we stay debt free and up but just say it and dont bull the fans.
i think parky only as one tactic but no point sacking him now. he's got his loan signings so lets see how they go. i said at the start that the wells money was all gone. rhodes more or less confirmed it last week. budget overspend and tribunal money. not bothered if we stay debt free and up but just say it and dont bull the fans. tinytoonster
  • Score: -4

9:01am Sun 9 Feb 14

Durko11 says...

It's too late to be thinking changes to management!
This is it, this is what we've got. Have faith, we've made a few changes To the squad and it may take a few games.
But each week we get 1 point closer to relegation, we desperately need a win....
It's too late to be thinking changes to management! This is it, this is what we've got. Have faith, we've made a few changes To the squad and it may take a few games. But each week we get 1 point closer to relegation, we desperately need a win.... Durko11
  • Score: 0

9:05am Sun 9 Feb 14

macca1969 says...

First half was worst i had seen us play in a long time but the second half was the best offensive display i have seen in ages. The facts don't lie though only 8 defeats in 29 league games for a newly promoted club. Now that is a stat that should tell some we are no where near as bad as some make out. Back the team and the manager guys as we just need a break to turn this around. We have only been beaten by 7 other teams from our league so we aren't that bad.
First half was worst i had seen us play in a long time but the second half was the best offensive display i have seen in ages. The facts don't lie though only 8 defeats in 29 league games for a newly promoted club. Now that is a stat that should tell some we are no where near as bad as some make out. Back the team and the manager guys as we just need a break to turn this around. We have only been beaten by 7 other teams from our league so we aren't that bad. macca1969
  • Score: 14

9:49am Sun 9 Feb 14

i miss stallard & murray says...

We drew this match and nearly lost it because of the 90 mins we only played football for 20 mins. The first half and after we had got level twice we played right into crewes hands long ball n surrender possession. This happened time n time again. We r then chasing the ball working our nuts off. U can not fault the effort of the front two they chased everything. Then after half time we start playing football to feet even to the chest of the front two Dolan n jones were passing it about and we create a number of chances which was great to watch. We draw level n go bak to being the home team under pressure this happened twice. Why not play the style of football we did for 20 mins and the beginning of the season for the majority of the game? If we did Crewe wud not known wat had hot them and I am convinced we would have had three points. Frustrating thing is we can play but we use this long ball kick with no rush as our default tactic, y? I was really impressed with Dolan but if we continue to kick n no rush he will b wasted here. Love McLean work rate we now need to supply some chances his way n kick n rush does not seem to be his way. Every confidence in the squad if we play football n sign a left bak for balance and attacking threat. Crewe shud not be dominating possession n scoring three times at vp.
We drew this match and nearly lost it because of the 90 mins we only played football for 20 mins. The first half and after we had got level twice we played right into crewes hands long ball n surrender possession. This happened time n time again. We r then chasing the ball working our nuts off. U can not fault the effort of the front two they chased everything. Then after half time we start playing football to feet even to the chest of the front two Dolan n jones were passing it about and we create a number of chances which was great to watch. We draw level n go bak to being the home team under pressure this happened twice. Why not play the style of football we did for 20 mins and the beginning of the season for the majority of the game? If we did Crewe wud not known wat had hot them and I am convinced we would have had three points. Frustrating thing is we can play but we use this long ball kick with no rush as our default tactic, y? I was really impressed with Dolan but if we continue to kick n no rush he will b wasted here. Love McLean work rate we now need to supply some chances his way n kick n rush does not seem to be his way. Every confidence in the squad if we play football n sign a left bak for balance and attacking threat. Crewe shud not be dominating possession n scoring three times at vp. i miss stallard & murray
  • Score: 2

10:08am Sun 9 Feb 14

dannbradfc says...

Parkys tactics are far too rigid I'm afraid. Your not allowed to move from your designated area and definitely don't run without the ball so that someone can find you in space with a pass. ......dolan wad leggy si wrong sub for me. Thompson added nothing whilst Bennett was still a threat. Should maybe have tried Atkinson and really gone for it. ........having said that wr finally got some goals from midfield. Jones was superb again. ........defence all over the place but it's the backing off that's the main problem allowing them to get shots in to easily. ......the only tactical change we seem capable of doing is to swap wingers over. ......that must really make the opposite manager have to think ;)....
Parkys tactics are far too rigid I'm afraid. Your not allowed to move from your designated area and definitely don't run without the ball so that someone can find you in space with a pass. ......dolan wad leggy si wrong sub for me. Thompson added nothing whilst Bennett was still a threat. Should maybe have tried Atkinson and really gone for it. ........having said that wr finally got some goals from midfield. Jones was superb again. ........defence all over the place but it's the backing off that's the main problem allowing them to get shots in to easily. ......the only tactical change we seem capable of doing is to swap wingers over. ......that must really make the opposite manager have to think ;).... dannbradfc
  • Score: -1

10:16am Sun 9 Feb 14

dannbradfc says...

Ps they played the conditions better than us. They hit diagonal balls that got held in the wind. They're not very good minus their centre forward. Having no back up left back as cost us again. We shouldcapable of finishing mid table but a full review of tactics is required if we want to progress next season.......
Ps they played the conditions better than us. They hit diagonal balls that got held in the wind. They're not very good minus their centre forward. Having no back up left back as cost us again. We shouldcapable of finishing mid table but a full review of tactics is required if we want to progress next season....... dannbradfc
  • Score: -1

11:09am Sun 9 Feb 14

bcfc1903 says...

bazzathetyke wrote:
bantam10 wrote:
Please don't reply to the coks last comment
Leeds going nowhere! Ha ha
We WON Today...Huddersfield WON today....We WILL Be in the Play-Offs...You WILL Be in a relegation scrap...Sooner than later.Crewe???..LOL
Why does the word laughingstock come to mind. Surely Lufc football world domination is only another takeover away, Real Madrid watch out.
[quote][p][bold]bazzathetyke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam10[/bold] wrote: Please don't reply to the coks last comment Leeds going nowhere! Ha ha[/p][/quote]We WON Today...Huddersfield WON today....We WILL Be in the Play-Offs...You WILL Be in a relegation scrap...Sooner than later.Crewe???..LOL[/p][/quote]Why does the word laughingstock come to mind. Surely Lufc football world domination is only another takeover away, Real Madrid watch out. bcfc1903
  • Score: 5

11:25am Sun 9 Feb 14

birbir says...

We were bad really bad in the first 30 mins. That is some shocking football. why oh why we did not sign a LB???? Are you telling me that in the whole of the football world there is not a LB in reserves or not getting first team football? What do our scouts do.. and what does Parky think he is doing!!??

I have posted on this forum before and people have been slating me for telling it how it is. 1 win in 20?? Seriously Mr Parkinson when are you going to start playing football and stop bringing in half hearted loan players, who you do not even play, your tactics do not work and your overall man management of certain players has been shocking.

Superman Jones had to save us again. If it wasn't for him we were in serious trouble. Bates at LB error prone and just doesn't have the pace for the role. Joe Mclughlin is shocking as keeper. We need to win games badly and next season we need a new manager!!!!
We were bad really bad in the first 30 mins. That is some shocking football. why oh why we did not sign a LB???? Are you telling me that in the whole of the football world there is not a LB in reserves or not getting first team football? What do our scouts do.. and what does Parky think he is doing!!?? I have posted on this forum before and people have been slating me for telling it how it is. 1 win in 20?? Seriously Mr Parkinson when are you going to start playing football and stop bringing in half hearted loan players, who you do not even play, your tactics do not work and your overall man management of certain players has been shocking. Superman Jones had to save us again. If it wasn't for him we were in serious trouble. Bates at LB error prone and just doesn't have the pace for the role. Joe Mclughlin is shocking as keeper. We need to win games badly and next season we need a new manager!!!! birbir
  • Score: -9

11:50am Sun 9 Feb 14

macca1969 says...

birbir wrote:
We were bad really bad in the first 30 mins. That is some shocking football. why oh why we did not sign a LB???? Are you telling me that in the whole of the football world there is not a LB in reserves or not getting first team football? What do our scouts do.. and what does Parky think he is doing!!??

I have posted on this forum before and people have been slating me for telling it how it is. 1 win in 20?? Seriously Mr Parkinson when are you going to start playing football and stop bringing in half hearted loan players, who you do not even play, your tactics do not work and your overall man management of certain players has been shocking.

Superman Jones had to save us again. If it wasn't for him we were in serious trouble. Bates at LB error prone and just doesn't have the pace for the role. Joe Mclughlin is shocking as keeper. We need to win games badly and next season we need a new manager!!!!
Bates did ok at left back and joe mclughlin whoever he is can be a shocking keeper as he doesn't play for us. As for 1 win in 20 I will again throw in 8 defeats in 29 with only 7 teams in this league beating us. Parky has to stay next season to continue the good work with the foundations he has laid. Hard to beat and the wins will soon follow
[quote][p][bold]birbir[/bold] wrote: We were bad really bad in the first 30 mins. That is some shocking football. why oh why we did not sign a LB???? Are you telling me that in the whole of the football world there is not a LB in reserves or not getting first team football? What do our scouts do.. and what does Parky think he is doing!!?? I have posted on this forum before and people have been slating me for telling it how it is. 1 win in 20?? Seriously Mr Parkinson when are you going to start playing football and stop bringing in half hearted loan players, who you do not even play, your tactics do not work and your overall man management of certain players has been shocking. Superman Jones had to save us again. If it wasn't for him we were in serious trouble. Bates at LB error prone and just doesn't have the pace for the role. Joe Mclughlin is shocking as keeper. We need to win games badly and next season we need a new manager!!!![/p][/quote]Bates did ok at left back and joe mclughlin whoever he is can be a shocking keeper as he doesn't play for us. As for 1 win in 20 I will again throw in 8 defeats in 29 with only 7 teams in this league beating us. Parky has to stay next season to continue the good work with the foundations he has laid. Hard to beat and the wins will soon follow macca1969
  • Score: 13

12:48pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Victor Clayton says...

I heard PPs post match interview and I wasn't really sure what he meant. He said we were too negative in the first half and didn't get the ball to Hanson quick enough. Was he saying we are just not good enough to play it through the middle and we are better served missing them out? I thought jones looked tired and off the pace in the first half. Maybe try Dolan and Atkinson before we abandon playing football altogether.
I heard PPs post match interview and I wasn't really sure what he meant. He said we were too negative in the first half and didn't get the ball to Hanson quick enough. Was he saying we are just not good enough to play it through the middle and we are better served missing them out? I thought jones looked tired and off the pace in the first half. Maybe try Dolan and Atkinson before we abandon playing football altogether. Victor Clayton
  • Score: 0

1:04pm Sun 9 Feb 14

SHOESMAKER24 says...

I don't think that the weather helped the team in the first half , as macca 1969 points out above I agree with a lot of wot he as put and that we just need that win to get us back on the right track again hopefully saterday come on city
I don't think that the weather helped the team in the first half , as macca 1969 points out above I agree with a lot of wot he as put and that we just need that win to get us back on the right track again hopefully saterday come on city SHOESMAKER24
  • Score: 6

2:01pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Bradford Lad BD9 says...

Becouse of what parkinson did for us last season i am very grateful for that, But i think he now needs to resign as he has taken us as far as he can, sticking with parky will be ponitless as he will take us back to where we was last season, SO THANKS 4 ALL THE MEMORIES PARKY BUT ITS NOW TIME TO GO OUR SEPERATE WAYS.
Becouse of what parkinson did for us last season i am very grateful for that, But i think he now needs to resign as he has taken us as far as he can, sticking with parky will be ponitless as he will take us back to where we was last season, SO THANKS 4 ALL THE MEMORIES PARKY BUT ITS NOW TIME TO GO OUR SEPERATE WAYS. Bradford Lad BD9
  • Score: -11

2:10pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Alvechurch73 says...

I think anyone calling for PP's head is either misguided, has little comprehension of the big picture or is simply mischief making. I could understand it if we were languishing at the foot of the table, points adrift and getting hammered every week. We're not. We came into this division on a tide of euphoria, which led many people to delude themselves into believing we would somehow breeze into the top two and gain another promotion. The start to our season further fuelled this delusion. The reality of course is that we came into the division with predominantly the same team/squad that took us up. I believe PP had a duty of loyalty to these players as did we supporters, but I also suspect that he knew, in order to progress changes were needed, not just to personnel but to the style of play. The summer acquisitions, for whatever reason, haven't worked out. The players brought in during January, coupled with NW's departure allow the playing style to change, but it's not going to happen overnight, more evolution than revolution. I for one have faith in PP. I think he's a thoughtful manager who knows what is needed. Furthermore I will always be grateful t him for the journey he has taken us on since his arrival.
I think anyone calling for PP's head is either misguided, has little comprehension of the big picture or is simply mischief making. I could understand it if we were languishing at the foot of the table, points adrift and getting hammered every week. We're not. We came into this division on a tide of euphoria, which led many people to delude themselves into believing we would somehow breeze into the top two and gain another promotion. The start to our season further fuelled this delusion. The reality of course is that we came into the division with predominantly the same team/squad that took us up. I believe PP had a duty of loyalty to these players as did we supporters, but I also suspect that he knew, in order to progress changes were needed, not just to personnel but to the style of play. The summer acquisitions, for whatever reason, haven't worked out. The players brought in during January, coupled with NW's departure allow the playing style to change, but it's not going to happen overnight, more evolution than revolution. I for one have faith in PP. I think he's a thoughtful manager who knows what is needed. Furthermore I will always be grateful t him for the journey he has taken us on since his arrival. Alvechurch73
  • Score: 11

2:59pm Sun 9 Feb 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Macca ,What planet do you live on.How many games have City won.Whether you like it or not City are in a relegation battle.Was it you who posted on here last week that the 2-0 defeat at Wolves was a good result for City because most teams get beat by more than that at Wolves.If you call that positivity then you are seriously deluded.
Macca ,What planet do you live on.How many games have City won.Whether you like it or not City are in a relegation battle.Was it you who posted on here last week that the 2-0 defeat at Wolves was a good result for City because most teams get beat by more than that at Wolves.If you call that positivity then you are seriously deluded. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: -7

3:54pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Michael Clayton says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Macca ,What planet do you live on.How many games have City won.Whether you like it or not City are in a relegation battle.Was it you who posted on here last week that the 2-0 defeat at Wolves was a good result for City because most teams get beat by more than that at Wolves.If you call that positivity then you are seriously deluded.
No. Those deluded are the ones living a fantasy world that will sweep us all of to Wembley every few months. Less than two years ago, the club was going out of the league. Less that one year ago, twelve points (or more) shy off the play-offs. Now: consolidating in League One and re-building for next term. I would wish that you Muppets would 'do one' but I can tolerate your stupidity as long as you keep putting money into the club
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Macca ,What planet do you live on.How many games have City won.Whether you like it or not City are in a relegation battle.Was it you who posted on here last week that the 2-0 defeat at Wolves was a good result for City because most teams get beat by more than that at Wolves.If you call that positivity then you are seriously deluded.[/p][/quote]No. Those deluded are the ones living a fantasy world that will sweep us all of to Wembley every few months. Less than two years ago, the club was going out of the league. Less that one year ago, twelve points (or more) shy off the play-offs. Now: consolidating in League One and re-building for next term. I would wish that you Muppets would 'do one' but I can tolerate your stupidity as long as you keep putting money into the club Michael Clayton
  • Score: 6

6:37pm Sun 9 Feb 14

lawsonio123 says...

City are in a Battle make no mistake about that. But berating the manager does no one any good at all.We have to remember he has not been given money to Buy Players with.He is a this moment in time still having to deal with free transfers loans ect and is not able to go out and spend £100,000 or more on a player that is a matter for the board to address should they wish to do so. However sooner or later someone will have to produce some cash if we are to continue to progress for we have reached a point where out of contract players loans ect will not drive us any further up the ladder. Phil Parkinson is a good manager so please get off his back UNLESS YOU FEEL YOU CAN DO A BETTER JOB. Just keep your support going which i know is not easy when things are not going well but that is football Take care all of you and keep smiling it will come right
City are in a Battle make no mistake about that. But berating the manager does no one any good at all.We have to remember he has not been given money to Buy Players with.He is a this moment in time still having to deal with free transfers loans ect and is not able to go out and spend £100,000 or more on a player that is a matter for the board to address should they wish to do so. However sooner or later someone will have to produce some cash if we are to continue to progress for we have reached a point where out of contract players loans ect will not drive us any further up the ladder. Phil Parkinson is a good manager so please get off his back UNLESS YOU FEEL YOU CAN DO A BETTER JOB. Just keep your support going which i know is not easy when things are not going well but that is football Take care all of you and keep smiling it will come right lawsonio123
  • Score: 4

12:19am Mon 10 Feb 14

Bradford1903 says...

Frustrating really. While I will admit that Crewe probably finished the stronger side, I can't remember them having many chances before then, yet they have ended up with 3 goals.

Basically we have defended poorly; McHugh was at fault for the 1st and was shaky thereafter. Davies looked like a player that had been out for a long time.

The one thing you can't deny about this team is their spirit. We could've quite easily had 3 or 4 in the opening 5 minutes of the 2nd half, and lesser sides would've rolled over, when they go up the other end and make it 2-0.

Two great strikes from Jones, and his performance makes a mockery of those who had been criticising him, but as we all know on here, everybody loves a scapegoat.

It's a pity Hanson didn't score from those two headers, as he should've done, and we would be talking about a great comeback.
Frustrating really. While I will admit that Crewe probably finished the stronger side, I can't remember them having many chances before then, yet they have ended up with 3 goals. Basically we have defended poorly; McHugh was at fault for the 1st and was shaky thereafter. Davies looked like a player that had been out for a long time. The one thing you can't deny about this team is their spirit. We could've quite easily had 3 or 4 in the opening 5 minutes of the 2nd half, and lesser sides would've rolled over, when they go up the other end and make it 2-0. Two great strikes from Jones, and his performance makes a mockery of those who had been criticising him, but as we all know on here, everybody loves a scapegoat. It's a pity Hanson didn't score from those two headers, as he should've done, and we would be talking about a great comeback. Bradford1903
  • Score: 0

10:06am Mon 10 Feb 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Alvechurch73 wrote:
I think anyone calling for PP's head is either misguided, has little comprehension of the big picture or is simply mischief making. I could understand it if we were languishing at the foot of the table, points adrift and getting hammered every week. We're not. We came into this division on a tide of euphoria, which led many people to delude themselves into believing we would somehow breeze into the top two and gain another promotion. The start to our season further fuelled this delusion. The reality of course is that we came into the division with predominantly the same team/squad that took us up. I believe PP had a duty of loyalty to these players as did we supporters, but I also suspect that he knew, in order to progress changes were needed, not just to personnel but to the style of play. The summer acquisitions, for whatever reason, haven't worked out. The players brought in during January, coupled with NW's departure allow the playing style to change, but it's not going to happen overnight, more evolution than revolution. I for one have faith in PP. I think he's a thoughtful manager who knows what is needed. Furthermore I will always be grateful t him for the journey he has taken us on since his arrival.
One of three or four comments worth reading on this whole thread. Thank goodness not all our fans are knee jerk numpties.

The new lads are bedding in, Crewe played the conditions and us very well in the first half closing us down extremely quickly, this pattern changed after half time and it was us using the conditions and harrying them.

Crewe looked a completely different side to the one at Gresty Road, then again so did we but I do not think they are as bad a team as is being made out. Especially not with their new loanees in too.

Of our recent incomings I'd say Reach played well, Dolan was ok in bursts and Bennett needs a little more composure and to hug his line more, unless it is a tactic by the manager he comes in from the wing but I cannot see the point of that.

I thought McLean was static and disinterested in the first half but once again, allowing for the conditions we rarely got the ball anywhere near him. His second half display was just short of a master class in how to hold and lay off as a striker, his problem is going to be reading Hanson, we will not change style and he must be the one to make the moves in and around James as that is where we will be knocking the ball, as mentioned by Parky post match but seen with our eyes for 2 years.

This is going to remain a tactic so those wanting free flowing football through the middle of the park best make plans to go elsewhere. The reason it will remain is that we have the perfect player to play this way and the high percentage of balls won in the final third give you the front foot in most situations, even if you lose possession the opponents still have 10 outfield players to get past and if you keep possession, well, you are in the final third, basically the aim of the game.
[quote][p][bold]Alvechurch73[/bold] wrote: I think anyone calling for PP's head is either misguided, has little comprehension of the big picture or is simply mischief making. I could understand it if we were languishing at the foot of the table, points adrift and getting hammered every week. We're not. We came into this division on a tide of euphoria, which led many people to delude themselves into believing we would somehow breeze into the top two and gain another promotion. The start to our season further fuelled this delusion. The reality of course is that we came into the division with predominantly the same team/squad that took us up. I believe PP had a duty of loyalty to these players as did we supporters, but I also suspect that he knew, in order to progress changes were needed, not just to personnel but to the style of play. The summer acquisitions, for whatever reason, haven't worked out. The players brought in during January, coupled with NW's departure allow the playing style to change, but it's not going to happen overnight, more evolution than revolution. I for one have faith in PP. I think he's a thoughtful manager who knows what is needed. Furthermore I will always be grateful t him for the journey he has taken us on since his arrival.[/p][/quote]One of three or four comments worth reading on this whole thread. Thank goodness not all our fans are knee jerk numpties. The new lads are bedding in, Crewe played the conditions and us very well in the first half closing us down extremely quickly, this pattern changed after half time and it was us using the conditions and harrying them. Crewe looked a completely different side to the one at Gresty Road, then again so did we but I do not think they are as bad a team as is being made out. Especially not with their new loanees in too. Of our recent incomings I'd say Reach played well, Dolan was ok in bursts and Bennett needs a little more composure and to hug his line more, unless it is a tactic by the manager he comes in from the wing but I cannot see the point of that. I thought McLean was static and disinterested in the first half but once again, allowing for the conditions we rarely got the ball anywhere near him. His second half display was just short of a master class in how to hold and lay off as a striker, his problem is going to be reading Hanson, we will not change style and he must be the one to make the moves in and around James as that is where we will be knocking the ball, as mentioned by Parky post match but seen with our eyes for 2 years. This is going to remain a tactic so those wanting free flowing football through the middle of the park best make plans to go elsewhere. The reason it will remain is that we have the perfect player to play this way and the high percentage of balls won in the final third give you the front foot in most situations, even if you lose possession the opponents still have 10 outfield players to get past and if you keep possession, well, you are in the final third, basically the aim of the game. Prisoner Cell Block A
  • Score: 1

12:33pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Victor Clayton says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Alvechurch73 wrote: I think anyone calling for PP's head is either misguided, has little comprehension of the big picture or is simply mischief making. I could understand it if we were languishing at the foot of the table, points adrift and getting hammered every week. We're not. We came into this division on a tide of euphoria, which led many people to delude themselves into believing we would somehow breeze into the top two and gain another promotion. The start to our season further fuelled this delusion. The reality of course is that we came into the division with predominantly the same team/squad that took us up. I believe PP had a duty of loyalty to these players as did we supporters, but I also suspect that he knew, in order to progress changes were needed, not just to personnel but to the style of play. The summer acquisitions, for whatever reason, haven't worked out. The players brought in during January, coupled with NW's departure allow the playing style to change, but it's not going to happen overnight, more evolution than revolution. I for one have faith in PP. I think he's a thoughtful manager who knows what is needed. Furthermore I will always be grateful t him for the journey he has taken us on since his arrival.
One of three or four comments worth reading on this whole thread. Thank goodness not all our fans are knee jerk numpties. The new lads are bedding in, Crewe played the conditions and us very well in the first half closing us down extremely quickly, this pattern changed after half time and it was us using the conditions and harrying them. Crewe looked a completely different side to the one at Gresty Road, then again so did we but I do not think they are as bad a team as is being made out. Especially not with their new loanees in too. Of our recent incomings I'd say Reach played well, Dolan was ok in bursts and Bennett needs a little more composure and to hug his line more, unless it is a tactic by the manager he comes in from the wing but I cannot see the point of that. I thought McLean was static and disinterested in the first half but once again, allowing for the conditions we rarely got the ball anywhere near him. His second half display was just short of a master class in how to hold and lay off as a striker, his problem is going to be reading Hanson, we will not change style and he must be the one to make the moves in and around James as that is where we will be knocking the ball, as mentioned by Parky post match but seen with our eyes for 2 years. This is going to remain a tactic so those wanting free flowing football through the middle of the park best make plans to go elsewhere. The reason it will remain is that we have the perfect player to play this way and the high percentage of balls won in the final third give you the front foot in most situations, even if you lose possession the opponents still have 10 outfield players to get past and if you keep possession, well, you are in the final third, basically the aim of the game.
I don’t think we played it any less down the middle in the 2nd half than we did in the first. Helped by the fact that we were closer to the strikers (and the weather) I think that in the 2nd half we put better quality balls into the front 2, which they had a chance to control. I think the plan was to soak it up in the first and hope for a lucky break for the front 2. Then go for it in the second. Unfortunately best laid plans and all that. For whatever reason PP did not want to admit it. IMO, it is a big ask for McLean to take over the roll of Well (getting on the end of flick ons etc) but, as we saw, if we play a bit more to his strengths he is more effective. It is also clear that there is much potential for a McLean partnership with Hanson. BTW, I thought that was the best I have ever seen JH play. He was good at what he does in the first half, but with some great hold up play went on to prove that is he has the ability to do more in the second (the turn of the defender was sublime) and it was a real shame he didn’t get the winner.
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alvechurch73[/bold] wrote: I think anyone calling for PP's head is either misguided, has little comprehension of the big picture or is simply mischief making. I could understand it if we were languishing at the foot of the table, points adrift and getting hammered every week. We're not. We came into this division on a tide of euphoria, which led many people to delude themselves into believing we would somehow breeze into the top two and gain another promotion. The start to our season further fuelled this delusion. The reality of course is that we came into the division with predominantly the same team/squad that took us up. I believe PP had a duty of loyalty to these players as did we supporters, but I also suspect that he knew, in order to progress changes were needed, not just to personnel but to the style of play. The summer acquisitions, for whatever reason, haven't worked out. The players brought in during January, coupled with NW's departure allow the playing style to change, but it's not going to happen overnight, more evolution than revolution. I for one have faith in PP. I think he's a thoughtful manager who knows what is needed. Furthermore I will always be grateful t him for the journey he has taken us on since his arrival.[/p][/quote]One of three or four comments worth reading on this whole thread. Thank goodness not all our fans are knee jerk numpties. The new lads are bedding in, Crewe played the conditions and us very well in the first half closing us down extremely quickly, this pattern changed after half time and it was us using the conditions and harrying them. Crewe looked a completely different side to the one at Gresty Road, then again so did we but I do not think they are as bad a team as is being made out. Especially not with their new loanees in too. Of our recent incomings I'd say Reach played well, Dolan was ok in bursts and Bennett needs a little more composure and to hug his line more, unless it is a tactic by the manager he comes in from the wing but I cannot see the point of that. I thought McLean was static and disinterested in the first half but once again, allowing for the conditions we rarely got the ball anywhere near him. His second half display was just short of a master class in how to hold and lay off as a striker, his problem is going to be reading Hanson, we will not change style and he must be the one to make the moves in and around James as that is where we will be knocking the ball, as mentioned by Parky post match but seen with our eyes for 2 years. This is going to remain a tactic so those wanting free flowing football through the middle of the park best make plans to go elsewhere. The reason it will remain is that we have the perfect player to play this way and the high percentage of balls won in the final third give you the front foot in most situations, even if you lose possession the opponents still have 10 outfield players to get past and if you keep possession, well, you are in the final third, basically the aim of the game.[/p][/quote]I don’t think we played it any less down the middle in the 2nd half than we did in the first. Helped by the fact that we were closer to the strikers (and the weather) I think that in the 2nd half we put better quality balls into the front 2, which they had a chance to control. I think the plan was to soak it up in the first and hope for a lucky break for the front 2. Then go for it in the second. Unfortunately best laid plans and all that. For whatever reason PP did not want to admit it. IMO, it is a big ask for McLean to take over the roll of Well (getting on the end of flick ons etc) but, as we saw, if we play a bit more to his strengths he is more effective. It is also clear that there is much potential for a McLean partnership with Hanson. BTW, I thought that was the best I have ever seen JH play. He was good at what he does in the first half, but with some great hold up play went on to prove that is he has the ability to do more in the second (the turn of the defender was sublime) and it was a real shame he didn’t get the winner. Victor Clayton
  • Score: 1

2:17pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Victor Clayton wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Alvechurch73 wrote: I think anyone calling for PP's head is either misguided, has little comprehension of the big picture or is simply mischief making. I could understand it if we were languishing at the foot of the table, points adrift and getting hammered every week. We're not. We came into this division on a tide of euphoria, which led many people to delude themselves into believing we would somehow breeze into the top two and gain another promotion. The start to our season further fuelled this delusion. The reality of course is that we came into the division with predominantly the same team/squad that took us up. I believe PP had a duty of loyalty to these players as did we supporters, but I also suspect that he knew, in order to progress changes were needed, not just to personnel but to the style of play. The summer acquisitions, for whatever reason, haven't worked out. The players brought in during January, coupled with NW's departure allow the playing style to change, but it's not going to happen overnight, more evolution than revolution. I for one have faith in PP. I think he's a thoughtful manager who knows what is needed. Furthermore I will always be grateful t him for the journey he has taken us on since his arrival.
One of three or four comments worth reading on this whole thread. Thank goodness not all our fans are knee jerk numpties. The new lads are bedding in, Crewe played the conditions and us very well in the first half closing us down extremely quickly, this pattern changed after half time and it was us using the conditions and harrying them. Crewe looked a completely different side to the one at Gresty Road, then again so did we but I do not think they are as bad a team as is being made out. Especially not with their new loanees in too. Of our recent incomings I'd say Reach played well, Dolan was ok in bursts and Bennett needs a little more composure and to hug his line more, unless it is a tactic by the manager he comes in from the wing but I cannot see the point of that. I thought McLean was static and disinterested in the first half but once again, allowing for the conditions we rarely got the ball anywhere near him. His second half display was just short of a master class in how to hold and lay off as a striker, his problem is going to be reading Hanson, we will not change style and he must be the one to make the moves in and around James as that is where we will be knocking the ball, as mentioned by Parky post match but seen with our eyes for 2 years. This is going to remain a tactic so those wanting free flowing football through the middle of the park best make plans to go elsewhere. The reason it will remain is that we have the perfect player to play this way and the high percentage of balls won in the final third give you the front foot in most situations, even if you lose possession the opponents still have 10 outfield players to get past and if you keep possession, well, you are in the final third, basically the aim of the game.
I don’t think we played it any less down the middle in the 2nd half than we did in the first. Helped by the fact that we were closer to the strikers (and the weather) I think that in the 2nd half we put better quality balls into the front 2, which they had a chance to control. I think the plan was to soak it up in the first and hope for a lucky break for the front 2. Then go for it in the second. Unfortunately best laid plans and all that. For whatever reason PP did not want to admit it. IMO, it is a big ask for McLean to take over the roll of Well (getting on the end of flick ons etc) but, as we saw, if we play a bit more to his strengths he is more effective. It is also clear that there is much potential for a McLean partnership with Hanson. BTW, I thought that was the best I have ever seen JH play. He was good at what he does in the first half, but with some great hold up play went on to prove that is he has the ability to do more in the second (the turn of the defender was sublime) and it was a real shame he didn’t get the winner.
Someone described that chest trap, sidestep and shot as...

Hanson chested it down like Hazard, turned like Messi and shot like Altidore, quite funny I thought.
[quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alvechurch73[/bold] wrote: I think anyone calling for PP's head is either misguided, has little comprehension of the big picture or is simply mischief making. I could understand it if we were languishing at the foot of the table, points adrift and getting hammered every week. We're not. We came into this division on a tide of euphoria, which led many people to delude themselves into believing we would somehow breeze into the top two and gain another promotion. The start to our season further fuelled this delusion. The reality of course is that we came into the division with predominantly the same team/squad that took us up. I believe PP had a duty of loyalty to these players as did we supporters, but I also suspect that he knew, in order to progress changes were needed, not just to personnel but to the style of play. The summer acquisitions, for whatever reason, haven't worked out. The players brought in during January, coupled with NW's departure allow the playing style to change, but it's not going to happen overnight, more evolution than revolution. I for one have faith in PP. I think he's a thoughtful manager who knows what is needed. Furthermore I will always be grateful t him for the journey he has taken us on since his arrival.[/p][/quote]One of three or four comments worth reading on this whole thread. Thank goodness not all our fans are knee jerk numpties. The new lads are bedding in, Crewe played the conditions and us very well in the first half closing us down extremely quickly, this pattern changed after half time and it was us using the conditions and harrying them. Crewe looked a completely different side to the one at Gresty Road, then again so did we but I do not think they are as bad a team as is being made out. Especially not with their new loanees in too. Of our recent incomings I'd say Reach played well, Dolan was ok in bursts and Bennett needs a little more composure and to hug his line more, unless it is a tactic by the manager he comes in from the wing but I cannot see the point of that. I thought McLean was static and disinterested in the first half but once again, allowing for the conditions we rarely got the ball anywhere near him. His second half display was just short of a master class in how to hold and lay off as a striker, his problem is going to be reading Hanson, we will not change style and he must be the one to make the moves in and around James as that is where we will be knocking the ball, as mentioned by Parky post match but seen with our eyes for 2 years. This is going to remain a tactic so those wanting free flowing football through the middle of the park best make plans to go elsewhere. The reason it will remain is that we have the perfect player to play this way and the high percentage of balls won in the final third give you the front foot in most situations, even if you lose possession the opponents still have 10 outfield players to get past and if you keep possession, well, you are in the final third, basically the aim of the game.[/p][/quote]I don’t think we played it any less down the middle in the 2nd half than we did in the first. Helped by the fact that we were closer to the strikers (and the weather) I think that in the 2nd half we put better quality balls into the front 2, which they had a chance to control. I think the plan was to soak it up in the first and hope for a lucky break for the front 2. Then go for it in the second. Unfortunately best laid plans and all that. For whatever reason PP did not want to admit it. IMO, it is a big ask for McLean to take over the roll of Well (getting on the end of flick ons etc) but, as we saw, if we play a bit more to his strengths he is more effective. It is also clear that there is much potential for a McLean partnership with Hanson. BTW, I thought that was the best I have ever seen JH play. He was good at what he does in the first half, but with some great hold up play went on to prove that is he has the ability to do more in the second (the turn of the defender was sublime) and it was a real shame he didn’t get the winner.[/p][/quote]Someone described that chest trap, sidestep and shot as... Hanson chested it down like Hazard, turned like Messi and shot like Altidore, quite funny I thought. Prisoner Cell Block A
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2:54pm Mon 10 Feb 14

propasupporter says...

I can not understand why people are calling for Phil Parkinson's head, he arguably the best Manager we have had in recent times, anybody who thought we were going to waltz through League one into the Championship is surely deluded. We are a team in transition and we will not be relegated, we will end up in mid table, which will be a fantastic achievement for a team who in recent times were hanging onto League status. Last year was fantasy football, this is real life football. I have followed Bradford City for 45 years and believe that Phil Parkinson will build a team that will achieve Championship football in the coming years. All you muppets who are calling for sackings, they achieve nothing, get a grip lads, keep calm and get behind the Manager and the team.
I can not understand why people are calling for Phil Parkinson's head, he arguably the best Manager we have had in recent times, anybody who thought we were going to waltz through League one into the Championship is surely deluded. We are a team in transition and we will not be relegated, we will end up in mid table, which will be a fantastic achievement for a team who in recent times were hanging onto League status. Last year was fantasy football, this is real life football. I have followed Bradford City for 45 years and believe that Phil Parkinson will build a team that will achieve Championship football in the coming years. All you muppets who are calling for sackings, they achieve nothing, get a grip lads, keep calm and get behind the Manager and the team. propasupporter
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3:29pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

^^^^^^^^ THIS.

I'm in my 42nd year of support and this is the more favoured view of people of that age. A bit of stability and support for such is what is needed now, not chop and change to try bring immediate success. We have built up the fan base again, we have built up the goodwill we have sold a player for decent money for the first time in as long as I can remember and are moving forward as a whole club.

People will say the fanbase and goodwill will dwindle without success, that may be but it won't ever drop as far as the sub 2k crowds we used to have playing Workington and Southport on a wet Wednesday night. Stick with the team and club and we can and will progress. Trying to rip it up and start again for a boom will only see a bust.
^^^^^^^^ THIS. I'm in my 42nd year of support and this is the more favoured view of people of that age. A bit of stability and support for such is what is needed now, not chop and change to try bring immediate success. We have built up the fan base again, we have built up the goodwill we have sold a player for decent money for the first time in as long as I can remember and are moving forward as a whole club. People will say the fanbase and goodwill will dwindle without success, that may be but it won't ever drop as far as the sub 2k crowds we used to have playing Workington and Southport on a wet Wednesday night. Stick with the team and club and we can and will progress. Trying to rip it up and start again for a boom will only see a bust. Prisoner Cell Block A
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