Chances of signing Bradford City striker Nahki Wells on new long-term deal unlikely, admits Julian Rhodes

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Much-coveted striker Nahki Wells was in goal-scoring form against Oldham at the weekend Much-coveted striker Nahki Wells was in goal-scoring form against Oldham at the weekend

Julian Rhodes believes City must be prepared for the prospect of losing Nahki Wells sooner rather than later.

Speculation is once again swirling surrounding the Bermuda international’s future as the next transfer window approaches.

Wells maintained his prolific goal ratio with another lethal finish at Oldham on Sunday, taking his tally to 14 for the season from 14 league starts.

James Hanson last week signed a new deal that will keep him at Valley Parade until 2017 and City would love to pin down his strike partner. But Wells has so far been reluctant to commit to talks and with 18 months of his current contract left, City cannot afford to let that run down too far if he is set to move on.

Joint-chairman Rhodes said: “We have to be prepared for all eventualities and at the moment there are three scenarios.

“Yes, Nahki might be sold; yes, he might stay to the end of the season or maybe we might be able to extend his contract.

“Now we have tied up James we would like to do the same with Nahki long term but I can’t see this happening.

“He can probably earn a lot more elsewhere, so if that’s the case and Nahki is not going to be here beyond this contract, we have to look at any offers if they come in, whether that’s in the next transfer window or the one after that.

“It would be naive not to think that the vast majority of clubs, certainly in the Football League and maybe even beyond that, might be interested in him.

“Everybody wants goal-scorers and his record is sensational.”

Wells, who was the subject of a rejected bid from Peter-borough in the summer, was unaffected by the rumours during the last transfer window – and ended up winning League One’s player of the month crown for August.

So City have no qualms that his game will dip as the focus on his position once again intensifies.

Rhodes added: “I don’t think Nahki will let anything turn his head. I don’t know him particularly but I do know what I see on a football pitch.

“He is a very confident young man with great ability and doesn’t let anything faze him.

“But you have to be pragmatic about things and the clock does tick.

“What would people think if we ended up losing him for nothing (at the end of his contract) in 18 months?

“Don’t get me wrong, if Nahki knocks on my door, Mark Lawn’s door or David Baldwin’s door in the next few days to discuss a long-term contract, then we will be more than happy to do so.

“But I’m not sure that’s going to happen. That’s football and you can’t blame him.

“Players have only got one career and they’ve got to make the most of it.”

Meanwhile, City may have to wait as long as next month before hearing the verdict from the Court of Arbitration for Sport on their Mark Stewart appeal.

City are battling FIFA’s ruling that they owe Falkirk £217,000 in compensation for the striker.

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7:47am Wed 4 Dec 13

tinytoonster says...

had a feeling this might happen when hanson signed.
lets be honest if we don't go up he will leave.
too good for league 1,
had a feeling this might happen when hanson signed. lets be honest if we don't go up he will leave. too good for league 1, tinytoonster

8:10am Wed 4 Dec 13

essess says...

Nahki would be a fool not to sign a better long term deal, he loves it here we love him here and the most important key is big James all nahkis succes is down to James. Nahki would have to start all over again to new teammates different style of play NO parkinson and no guarantee of being first name on the teamsheet.THINK LONG AND HARD NAHKI
Nahki would be a fool not to sign a better long term deal, he loves it here we love him here and the most important key is big James all nahkis succes is down to James. Nahki would have to start all over again to new teammates different style of play NO parkinson and no guarantee of being first name on the teamsheet.THINK LONG AND HARD NAHKI essess

8:17am Wed 4 Dec 13

whisky1 says...

Good luck to the lad he could have run his last contract down but stayed. The key is to be savvy in recruiting with the money we get and ideally unearthing another hidden gem
Good luck to the lad he could have run his last contract down but stayed. The key is to be savvy in recruiting with the money we get and ideally unearthing another hidden gem whisky1

8:28am Wed 4 Dec 13

macca1969 says...

Was hoping we could see this season through with him but if good money comes in in January we have to look at it. I knew unless we achieved promotion this year he would be gone and that looks like the case. I think this scenario is why parky is pushing young mcburnie to give him the confidence to be in and around the first team.
Was hoping we could see this season through with him but if good money comes in in January we have to look at it. I knew unless we achieved promotion this year he would be gone and that looks like the case. I think this scenario is why parky is pushing young mcburnie to give him the confidence to be in and around the first team. macca1969

8:36am Wed 4 Dec 13

notpoliticallycorrect says...

I think we would be daft to sell him in January if we are in and around the play offs. Get to the end of the season and see where we are, if we do not go up he can leave with my blessing.

Very good player but he needs to remember that he failed elsewhere in the past and there is no guarantee that he will not fail at another club.

I would only sell him in January if we are well out of play offs and a silly bid comes in of £3 Million pounds plus.
I think we would be daft to sell him in January if we are in and around the play offs. Get to the end of the season and see where we are, if we do not go up he can leave with my blessing. Very good player but he needs to remember that he failed elsewhere in the past and there is no guarantee that he will not fail at another club. I would only sell him in January if we are well out of play offs and a silly bid comes in of £3 Million pounds plus. notpoliticallycorrect

8:40am Wed 4 Dec 13

notpoliticallycorrect says...

Julian Rhodes and Mark Lawn also need to be careful here as if they sell and are not seen to put the funds back into players they will lose a lot of the goodwill that is around the place at the moment.

Lets face it the money from the Capital One Cup never made it into improving the playing squad, we line up with our League 2 side most weeks.

Sell Wells and pocket the money boys at your own peril ..........
Julian Rhodes and Mark Lawn also need to be careful here as if they sell and are not seen to put the funds back into players they will lose a lot of the goodwill that is around the place at the moment. Lets face it the money from the Capital One Cup never made it into improving the playing squad, we line up with our League 2 side most weeks. Sell Wells and pocket the money boys at your own peril .......... notpoliticallycorrect

8:43am Wed 4 Dec 13

minkiebantam says...

If he goes, he goes. Thats football im afraid. Like all on hear, im sure we would be over the moon if he decided to stay until the end of this season IF NOT LONGER? But, if we get a top offer (£2.5m +) we would be stupid not to accept. We got him for nothing, he has helped us have the best season entertainment wise in My lifetime (Im 35) and with the money injection, could still do some good business in the transfer window and STILL get promotion to the championship.
Its gonna be an interesting next few months me thinks?? As long as he keeps banging them in for us while still in the claret and amber, i will be a happy bantam.
CTID!!
If he goes, he goes. Thats football im afraid. Like all on hear, im sure we would be over the moon if he decided to stay until the end of this season IF NOT LONGER? But, if we get a top offer (£2.5m +) we would be stupid not to accept. We got him for nothing, he has helped us have the best season entertainment wise in My lifetime (Im 35) and with the money injection, could still do some good business in the transfer window and STILL get promotion to the championship. Its gonna be an interesting next few months me thinks?? As long as he keeps banging them in for us while still in the claret and amber, i will be a happy bantam. CTID!! minkiebantam

8:44am Wed 4 Dec 13

LaCe78 says...

essess wrote:
Nahki would be a fool not to sign a better long term deal, he loves it here we love him here and the most important key is big James all nahkis succes is down to James. Nahki would have to start all over again to new teammates different style of play NO parkinson and no guarantee of being first name on the teamsheet.THINK LONG AND HARD NAHKI
My thoughts exactly! I'm hoping he's not thinking the grass is always greener, in this case, it may not be! You look back at the likes of Graeme Tomlinson, who made their name with us then left for the dollars and the dream of the higher leagues, and ended up lost in the footballing abyss, first warming the bench then ultimately released! Nahki is in a fantastic position to be able to continue his footballing development under PP, earn more cash on an improved long term contract if he so chooses, and what's more, stick with the club who have him his break, a team clearly on the up, and where the fans love him enough to become a club legend if he continues to develop! We've seen too many leave for the wrong reasons, I for one hope Nahki can see this and commits to City and concentrates on getting us into the Championship (where there'd be a pot of gold waiting in terms of bonuses should he do that!)
[quote][p][bold]essess[/bold] wrote: Nahki would be a fool not to sign a better long term deal, he loves it here we love him here and the most important key is big James all nahkis succes is down to James. Nahki would have to start all over again to new teammates different style of play NO parkinson and no guarantee of being first name on the teamsheet.THINK LONG AND HARD NAHKI[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly! I'm hoping he's not thinking the grass is always greener, in this case, it may not be! You look back at the likes of Graeme Tomlinson, who made their name with us then left for the dollars and the dream of the higher leagues, and ended up lost in the footballing abyss, first warming the bench then ultimately released! Nahki is in a fantastic position to be able to continue his footballing development under PP, earn more cash on an improved long term contract if he so chooses, and what's more, stick with the club who have him his break, a team clearly on the up, and where the fans love him enough to become a club legend if he continues to develop! We've seen too many leave for the wrong reasons, I for one hope Nahki can see this and commits to City and concentrates on getting us into the Championship (where there'd be a pot of gold waiting in terms of bonuses should he do that!) LaCe78

9:00am Wed 4 Dec 13

Freddy says...

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Agree with NPC above. Where has last season's revenue gone. I think £1 Million went back to Lawn.
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Nahki will command a high bid in January. BUT--He would command a much higher bid---IF City get promotion. He will then be a Championship player. Premier Clubs will offer much greater money--much greater salary--a much greater % for his Agent.
*
* Agree with NPC above. Where has last season's revenue gone. I think £1 Million went back to Lawn. * Nahki will command a high bid in January. BUT--He would command a much higher bid---IF City get promotion. He will then be a Championship player. Premier Clubs will offer much greater money--much greater salary--a much greater % for his Agent. * Freddy

9:03am Wed 4 Dec 13

tyker7745 says...

if h wants to go then take the money:calum davison and leon Clarke can be bought for comparatively little money
if h wants to go then take the money:calum davison and leon Clarke can be bought for comparatively little money tyker7745

9:30am Wed 4 Dec 13

minkiebantam says...

tyker7745 wrote:
if h wants to go then take the money:calum davison and leon Clarke can be bought for comparatively little money
Im Guessing you mean Callum Wilson of Coventry. He has just re-signed a contract until 2015, Plus if he was sold, would command a descent amount and a lot of interest from Championship teams as well. The perfect replacement for Well if he did go, but a very difficult target to get IMO.
CTID!!
[quote][p][bold]tyker7745[/bold] wrote: if h wants to go then take the money:calum davison and leon Clarke can be bought for comparatively little money[/p][/quote]Im Guessing you mean Callum Wilson of Coventry. He has just re-signed a contract until 2015, Plus if he was sold, would command a descent amount and a lot of interest from Championship teams as well. The perfect replacement for Well if he did go, but a very difficult target to get IMO. CTID!! minkiebantam

9:36am Wed 4 Dec 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

If the offer is of a decent value we will have to accept and let the lad go with the greatest of thanks, he was as much a part of our best ever season, in my opinion, as anyone and at his age has deserved the chance to move up through the leagues and enjoy a fulfilled career. That said, within the 18 months that remain on his current contract he could be challenging for Premier league football with us and not sat on the bench somewhere like QPR or Forest after not making an immediate impact. That is the risk with this type of move up through the leagues and it is a risk for all parties, us included except we get a cash cushion to ease ours.

Imagine the deflation of a player if he makes a move elsewhere and is unable to find the net on as regular basis as he has been doing thus far, confidence drops, starts get less, adulation disappears. It may not be as cut n dried as we are thinking. Then again there is the agent factor and for his pound of flesh will be hawking Nahki's name round every club hoping for a bidding war and a bumper payout for himself.
If the offer is of a decent value we will have to accept and let the lad go with the greatest of thanks, he was as much a part of our best ever season, in my opinion, as anyone and at his age has deserved the chance to move up through the leagues and enjoy a fulfilled career. That said, within the 18 months that remain on his current contract he could be challenging for Premier league football with us and not sat on the bench somewhere like QPR or Forest after not making an immediate impact. That is the risk with this type of move up through the leagues and it is a risk for all parties, us included except we get a cash cushion to ease ours. Imagine the deflation of a player if he makes a move elsewhere and is unable to find the net on as regular basis as he has been doing thus far, confidence drops, starts get less, adulation disappears. It may not be as cut n dried as we are thinking. Then again there is the agent factor and for his pound of flesh will be hawking Nahki's name round every club hoping for a bidding war and a bumper payout for himself. Prisoner Cell Block A

9:41am Wed 4 Dec 13

Leeds Bantam says...

I think Nahki will go but hopefully not till the end of the season , i don't believe the money we can demand for him will be any less for not selling him in January as he will still have 12 Months left on his contract and if he continues with his current form offers from promoted clubs will still be the same amount if not higher. Clubs cannot wait 12 months till he becomes a free agent as its a long time in football and they will need to secure his services long before that. Best case scenario would be a premier league club buying him (next season) for good money and loaning him back to us for the rest of the season like the Palace lad by then the McBuninator will be more experienced and ready to fill Nahki's already big shoes!!. CTID
I think Nahki will go but hopefully not till the end of the season , i don't believe the money we can demand for him will be any less for not selling him in January as he will still have 12 Months left on his contract and if he continues with his current form offers from promoted clubs will still be the same amount if not higher. Clubs cannot wait 12 months till he becomes a free agent as its a long time in football and they will need to secure his services long before that. Best case scenario would be a premier league club buying him (next season) for good money and loaning him back to us for the rest of the season like the Palace lad by then the McBuninator will be more experienced and ready to fill Nahki's already big shoes!!. CTID Leeds Bantam

9:58am Wed 4 Dec 13

whisky1 says...

The judgement will be made for the best of the club by Rhodes/Lawn ..last years windfall keeps us going this year and perhaps a little longer with current players on hefty contracts...(Hans will now be earning a decent screw). Nakhis value will sharply depreciate if it is left till the summer. The key is to have the nous to recruit well again and ideally to be picking up the next prospect from the lower leagues or again from Baldwins operation.
The judgement will be made for the best of the club by Rhodes/Lawn ..last years windfall keeps us going this year and perhaps a little longer with current players on hefty contracts...(Hans will now be earning a decent screw). Nakhis value will sharply depreciate if it is left till the summer. The key is to have the nous to recruit well again and ideally to be picking up the next prospect from the lower leagues or again from Baldwins operation. whisky1

9:59am Wed 4 Dec 13

bobby98007 says...

Freddy wrote:
*
Agree with NPC above. Where has last season's revenue gone. I think £1 Million went back to Lawn.
*
Nahki will command a high bid in January. BUT--He would command a much higher bid---IF City get promotion. He will then be a Championship player. Premier Clubs will offer much greater money--much greater salary--a much greater % for his Agent.
*
Personally i think your wrong, he will still be a gamble for a Championship club regardless of if we are promoted or not, so i wouldnt expect promotion would increase his asking fee, although promotion would greatly enhance our chance of keeping him.

However i dont believe for 1 minute that he will go to another League One club, if no interest comes from the 2 leagues above i imagine he would sign a short extension.

For me, West Ham are in the market for a couple of strikers and play with a big man little man combo, it would not surprise me if they approached him as a cheap punt, as well as bringing in another striker.
[quote][p][bold]Freddy[/bold] wrote: * Agree with NPC above. Where has last season's revenue gone. I think £1 Million went back to Lawn. * Nahki will command a high bid in January. BUT--He would command a much higher bid---IF City get promotion. He will then be a Championship player. Premier Clubs will offer much greater money--much greater salary--a much greater % for his Agent. *[/p][/quote]Personally i think your wrong, he will still be a gamble for a Championship club regardless of if we are promoted or not, so i wouldnt expect promotion would increase his asking fee, although promotion would greatly enhance our chance of keeping him. However i dont believe for 1 minute that he will go to another League One club, if no interest comes from the 2 leagues above i imagine he would sign a short extension. For me, West Ham are in the market for a couple of strikers and play with a big man little man combo, it would not surprise me if they approached him as a cheap punt, as well as bringing in another striker. bobby98007

10:05am Wed 4 Dec 13

Olivermac says...

I don't think it would be a great loss to loose Nahki and he is defiantly not a prem player and even if he was fortunate to end up at one of the none established prem clubs he would spend more time on the bench , good luck to him and it may just give the supporters a chance to see City play some football on the floor Parky would need to change the system of the long ball as we don't have a replacement player with the pace Nahki has so let him go and let's see City play some football.
I don't think it would be a great loss to loose Nahki and he is defiantly not a prem player and even if he was fortunate to end up at one of the none established prem clubs he would spend more time on the bench , good luck to him and it may just give the supporters a chance to see City play some football on the floor Parky would need to change the system of the long ball as we don't have a replacement player with the pace Nahki has so let him go and let's see City play some football. Olivermac

10:09am Wed 4 Dec 13

bobby98007 says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
If the offer is of a decent value we will have to accept and let the lad go with the greatest of thanks, he was as much a part of our best ever season, in my opinion, as anyone and at his age has deserved the chance to move up through the leagues and enjoy a fulfilled career. That said, within the 18 months that remain on his current contract he could be challenging for Premier league football with us and not sat on the bench somewhere like QPR or Forest after not making an immediate impact. That is the risk with this type of move up through the leagues and it is a risk for all parties, us included except we get a cash cushion to ease ours.

Imagine the deflation of a player if he makes a move elsewhere and is unable to find the net on as regular basis as he has been doing thus far, confidence drops, starts get less, adulation disappears. It may not be as cut n dried as we are thinking. Then again there is the agent factor and for his pound of flesh will be hawking Nahki's name round every club hoping for a bidding war and a bumper payout for himself.
" That said, within the 18 months that remain on his current contract he could be challenging for Premier league football with us and not sat on the bench somewhere like QPR or Forest after not making an immediate impact."

You, my friend, are out of your mind!
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: If the offer is of a decent value we will have to accept and let the lad go with the greatest of thanks, he was as much a part of our best ever season, in my opinion, as anyone and at his age has deserved the chance to move up through the leagues and enjoy a fulfilled career. That said, within the 18 months that remain on his current contract he could be challenging for Premier league football with us and not sat on the bench somewhere like QPR or Forest after not making an immediate impact. That is the risk with this type of move up through the leagues and it is a risk for all parties, us included except we get a cash cushion to ease ours. Imagine the deflation of a player if he makes a move elsewhere and is unable to find the net on as regular basis as he has been doing thus far, confidence drops, starts get less, adulation disappears. It may not be as cut n dried as we are thinking. Then again there is the agent factor and for his pound of flesh will be hawking Nahki's name round every club hoping for a bidding war and a bumper payout for himself.[/p][/quote]" That said, within the 18 months that remain on his current contract he could be challenging for Premier league football with us and not sat on the bench somewhere like QPR or Forest after not making an immediate impact." You, my friend, are out of your mind! bobby98007

10:10am Wed 4 Dec 13

Waydownsouth says...

The timing of the statement is a bit telling. I think we're being prepared for Nahki's departure in the not too distant future - like January. Good luck to him 'cos he' given his all for us and i's a fact of footballing life..
The timing of the statement is a bit telling. I think we're being prepared for Nahki's departure in the not too distant future - like January. Good luck to him 'cos he' given his all for us and i's a fact of footballing life.. Waydownsouth

10:14am Wed 4 Dec 13

dannbradfc says...

bobby98007 wrote:
Freddy wrote:
*
Agree with NPC above. Where has last season's revenue gone. I think £1 Million went back to Lawn.
*
Nahki will command a high bid in January. BUT--He would command a much higher bid---IF City get promotion. He will then be a Championship player. Premier Clubs will offer much greater money--much greater salary--a much greater % for his Agent.
*
Personally i think your wrong, he will still be a gamble for a Championship club regardless of if we are promoted or not, so i wouldnt expect promotion would increase his asking fee, although promotion would greatly enhance our chance of keeping him.

However i dont believe for 1 minute that he will go to another League One club, if no interest comes from the 2 leagues above i imagine he would sign a short extension.

For me, West Ham are in the market for a couple of strikers and play with a big man little man combo, it would not surprise me if they approached him as a cheap punt, as well as bringing in another striker.
Nahki could go to wolves for the right price and wages. They can afford this and he will probably be in the championship anyway next season. So a league one club is not of contention.....
[quote][p][bold]bobby98007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freddy[/bold] wrote: * Agree with NPC above. Where has last season's revenue gone. I think £1 Million went back to Lawn. * Nahki will command a high bid in January. BUT--He would command a much higher bid---IF City get promotion. He will then be a Championship player. Premier Clubs will offer much greater money--much greater salary--a much greater % for his Agent. *[/p][/quote]Personally i think your wrong, he will still be a gamble for a Championship club regardless of if we are promoted or not, so i wouldnt expect promotion would increase his asking fee, although promotion would greatly enhance our chance of keeping him. However i dont believe for 1 minute that he will go to another League One club, if no interest comes from the 2 leagues above i imagine he would sign a short extension. For me, West Ham are in the market for a couple of strikers and play with a big man little man combo, it would not surprise me if they approached him as a cheap punt, as well as bringing in another striker.[/p][/quote]Nahki could go to wolves for the right price and wages. They can afford this and he will probably be in the championship anyway next season. So a league one club is not of contention..... dannbradfc

10:17am Wed 4 Dec 13

Peter300 says...

LaCe78 wrote:
essess wrote:
Nahki would be a fool not to sign a better long term deal, he loves it here we love him here and the most important key is big James all nahkis succes is down to James. Nahki would have to start all over again to new teammates different style of play NO parkinson and no guarantee of being first name on the teamsheet.THINK LONG AND HARD NAHKI
My thoughts exactly! I'm hoping he's not thinking the grass is always greener, in this case, it may not be! You look back at the likes of Graeme Tomlinson, who made their name with us then left for the dollars and the dream of the higher leagues, and ended up lost in the footballing abyss, first warming the bench then ultimately released! Nahki is in a fantastic position to be able to continue his footballing development under PP, earn more cash on an improved long term contract if he so chooses, and what's more, stick with the club who have him his break, a team clearly on the up, and where the fans love him enough to become a club legend if he continues to develop! We've seen too many leave for the wrong reasons, I for one hope Nahki can see this and commits to City and concentrates on getting us into the Championship (where there'd be a pot of gold waiting in terms of bonuses should he do that!)
Well you are wrong about Tomlinson. He suffered a very bad injury. Nahki is a very driven individual and will want to progress his career. It looks like bids will be received in January. It's has been a great partnership for City so far. He's helped us and the club have helped him.
[quote][p][bold]LaCe78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]essess[/bold] wrote: Nahki would be a fool not to sign a better long term deal, he loves it here we love him here and the most important key is big James all nahkis succes is down to James. Nahki would have to start all over again to new teammates different style of play NO parkinson and no guarantee of being first name on the teamsheet.THINK LONG AND HARD NAHKI[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly! I'm hoping he's not thinking the grass is always greener, in this case, it may not be! You look back at the likes of Graeme Tomlinson, who made their name with us then left for the dollars and the dream of the higher leagues, and ended up lost in the footballing abyss, first warming the bench then ultimately released! Nahki is in a fantastic position to be able to continue his footballing development under PP, earn more cash on an improved long term contract if he so chooses, and what's more, stick with the club who have him his break, a team clearly on the up, and where the fans love him enough to become a club legend if he continues to develop! We've seen too many leave for the wrong reasons, I for one hope Nahki can see this and commits to City and concentrates on getting us into the Championship (where there'd be a pot of gold waiting in terms of bonuses should he do that!)[/p][/quote]Well you are wrong about Tomlinson. He suffered a very bad injury. Nahki is a very driven individual and will want to progress his career. It looks like bids will be received in January. It's has been a great partnership for City so far. He's helped us and the club have helped him. Peter300

10:19am Wed 4 Dec 13

Peter300 says...

tyker7745 wrote:
if h wants to go then take the money:calum davison and leon Clarke can be bought for comparatively little money
They would want to move to a higher division too. Or 2
[quote][p][bold]tyker7745[/bold] wrote: if h wants to go then take the money:calum davison and leon Clarke can be bought for comparatively little money[/p][/quote]They would want to move to a higher division too. Or 2 Peter300

10:21am Wed 4 Dec 13

dannbradfc says...

Ultimately i don't know what our current wage structure is but i doubt we are offering what Nahki's reputation as become. You cannot blame him for securing his future and taking an higher wage. He could be looking at quadrupling his weekly wage and who wouldn't take that. Its different when you are already on 100,000 grand a week premiership wages. Going after more then id just greed imo. Loyalty and been happy can then play a part.

I'm concerned about how much will be reinvested into the team. It could serously hamper the momentum we have been building. It will test just how much ambition we have, that is for sure. We are always hearing that we've over spent but then hearing about the investment in the club,the selling of parts of the ground etc. Its speculate to accumulate time and that involves a gamble......is it one we are prepared to take?
Ultimately i don't know what our current wage structure is but i doubt we are offering what Nahki's reputation as become. You cannot blame him for securing his future and taking an higher wage. He could be looking at quadrupling his weekly wage and who wouldn't take that. Its different when you are already on 100,000 grand a week premiership wages. Going after more then id just greed imo. Loyalty and been happy can then play a part. I'm concerned about how much will be reinvested into the team. It could serously hamper the momentum we have been building. It will test just how much ambition we have, that is for sure. We are always hearing that we've over spent but then hearing about the investment in the club,the selling of parts of the ground etc. Its speculate to accumulate time and that involves a gamble......is it one we are prepared to take? dannbradfc

10:23am Wed 4 Dec 13

Peter300 says...

Olivermac wrote:
I don't think it would be a great loss to loose Nahki and he is defiantly not a prem player and even if he was fortunate to end up at one of the none established prem clubs he would spend more time on the bench , good luck to him and it may just give the supporters a chance to see City play some football on the floor Parky would need to change the system of the long ball as we don't have a replacement player with the pace Nahki has so let him go and let's see City play some football.
You will be the first to complain when City start passing it around. How can you be so sure that Nahki is not a Premier League player. Why are you so defiant on the matter?
[quote][p][bold]Olivermac[/bold] wrote: I don't think it would be a great loss to loose Nahki and he is defiantly not a prem player and even if he was fortunate to end up at one of the none established prem clubs he would spend more time on the bench , good luck to him and it may just give the supporters a chance to see City play some football on the floor Parky would need to change the system of the long ball as we don't have a replacement player with the pace Nahki has so let him go and let's see City play some football.[/p][/quote]You will be the first to complain when City start passing it around. How can you be so sure that Nahki is not a Premier League player. Why are you so defiant on the matter? Peter300

10:43am Wed 4 Dec 13

Edinburgh -bantam says...

Hopefully, if Nahki is sold it will be early in January so that a replacement is signed.
Players, chairmen and directors come and go from Bradford City. The only permanent people are supporters.

Let's hope Nahki helps City win the important matches later this month.
Hopefully, if Nahki is sold it will be early in January so that a replacement is signed. Players, chairmen and directors come and go from Bradford City. The only permanent people are supporters. Let's hope Nahki helps City win the important matches later this month. Edinburgh -bantam

10:55am Wed 4 Dec 13

DingDangDoo!!! says...

It is no secret that Nahki would now be playing for QPR if Harry Rednapp had managed to create space in his squad by shipping Andrew Johnson out to Crystal Palace during the last transfer window.
From that time at the end of August, Nahki has not only maintained his previous level of performance but actually improved it, so QPR will definately be back in for him in January, amongst others.
People on here that are warning Nahki to be careful what he wishes for, well put yourself in his position and have a think as to what you would do yourself? Coming from his roots in Bermuda, if he signed for QPR he would be living in central London in a better house, better car and with more money as well as playing at a higher level. Throw the prospect of working with Harry Rednapp into it aswell, it's a no-brainer from Nahki's point of view.
From the point of view of all connected with BCFC, I think that the ideal scenario for us would be to sell him for 3 Million plus add on's and loan him back for the rest of the season.
Everyone is happy then, but like someone else has mentioned on this post, the key to all of this is how wisely the money gets invested because that could make or break our immediate future!
It is no secret that Nahki would now be playing for QPR if Harry Rednapp had managed to create space in his squad by shipping Andrew Johnson out to Crystal Palace during the last transfer window. From that time at the end of August, Nahki has not only maintained his previous level of performance but actually improved it, so QPR will definately be back in for him in January, amongst others. People on here that are warning Nahki to be careful what he wishes for, well put yourself in his position and have a think as to what you would do yourself? Coming from his roots in Bermuda, if he signed for QPR he would be living in central London in a better house, better car and with more money as well as playing at a higher level. Throw the prospect of working with Harry Rednapp into it aswell, it's a no-brainer from Nahki's point of view. From the point of view of all connected with BCFC, I think that the ideal scenario for us would be to sell him for 3 Million plus add on's and loan him back for the rest of the season. Everyone is happy then, but like someone else has mentioned on this post, the key to all of this is how wisely the money gets invested because that could make or break our immediate future! DingDangDoo!!!

11:00am Wed 4 Dec 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

bobby98007 wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
If the offer is of a decent value we will have to accept and let the lad go with the greatest of thanks, he was as much a part of our best ever season, in my opinion, as anyone and at his age has deserved the chance to move up through the leagues and enjoy a fulfilled career. That said, within the 18 months that remain on his current contract he could be challenging for Premier league football with us and not sat on the bench somewhere like QPR or Forest after not making an immediate impact. That is the risk with this type of move up through the leagues and it is a risk for all parties, us included except we get a cash cushion to ease ours.

Imagine the deflation of a player if he makes a move elsewhere and is unable to find the net on as regular basis as he has been doing thus far, confidence drops, starts get less, adulation disappears. It may not be as cut n dried as we are thinking. Then again there is the agent factor and for his pound of flesh will be hawking Nahki's name round every club hoping for a bidding war and a bumper payout for himself.
" That said, within the 18 months that remain on his current contract he could be challenging for Premier league football with us and not sat on the bench somewhere like QPR or Forest after not making an immediate impact."

You, my friend, are out of your mind!
Has he got 18 months on his contract? yes.

Are we half way through this season within a few places of the play offs? Yes

If we went up and did as well next year we could be in with a shout of Prem football, therefore he could also be in with a shout with US.

Yes, I'm out of my mind but they are possibles, just like a 20 team accumulator whihc I have still yet to win.
[quote][p][bold]bobby98007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: If the offer is of a decent value we will have to accept and let the lad go with the greatest of thanks, he was as much a part of our best ever season, in my opinion, as anyone and at his age has deserved the chance to move up through the leagues and enjoy a fulfilled career. That said, within the 18 months that remain on his current contract he could be challenging for Premier league football with us and not sat on the bench somewhere like QPR or Forest after not making an immediate impact. That is the risk with this type of move up through the leagues and it is a risk for all parties, us included except we get a cash cushion to ease ours. Imagine the deflation of a player if he makes a move elsewhere and is unable to find the net on as regular basis as he has been doing thus far, confidence drops, starts get less, adulation disappears. It may not be as cut n dried as we are thinking. Then again there is the agent factor and for his pound of flesh will be hawking Nahki's name round every club hoping for a bidding war and a bumper payout for himself.[/p][/quote]" That said, within the 18 months that remain on his current contract he could be challenging for Premier league football with us and not sat on the bench somewhere like QPR or Forest after not making an immediate impact." You, my friend, are out of your mind![/p][/quote]Has he got 18 months on his contract? yes. Are we half way through this season within a few places of the play offs? Yes If we went up and did as well next year we could be in with a shout of Prem football, therefore he could also be in with a shout with US. Yes, I'm out of my mind but they are possibles, just like a 20 team accumulator whihc I have still yet to win. Prisoner Cell Block A

11:31am Wed 4 Dec 13

bobby98007 says...

How do you go from few places off the playoffs in L1 to few places off the Prem league in 12 months? Its highly unlikely. If thats the thinking we could be Champions League material by the end of the season after. Football rarely works like that.

Besides, its a huge financial risk that is not worth taking, if we get a bid in January and its £2 Mil +, we have to sell.

Best case would be a loan back job, but Wells isnt 18 and i suspect anyone signing him need him now and not in 12 months time. So again its unlikely.
How do you go from few places off the playoffs in L1 to few places off the Prem league in 12 months? Its highly unlikely. If thats the thinking we could be Champions League material by the end of the season after. Football rarely works like that. Besides, its a huge financial risk that is not worth taking, if we get a bid in January and its £2 Mil +, we have to sell. Best case would be a loan back job, but Wells isnt 18 and i suspect anyone signing him need him now and not in 12 months time. So again its unlikely. bobby98007

11:35am Wed 4 Dec 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

bobby98007 wrote:
How do you go from few places off the playoffs in L1 to few places off the Prem league in 12 months? Its highly unlikely. If thats the thinking we could be Champions League material by the end of the season after. Football rarely works like that.

Besides, its a huge financial risk that is not worth taking, if we get a bid in January and its £2 Mil +, we have to sell.

Best case would be a loan back job, but Wells isnt 18 and i suspect anyone signing him need him now and not in 12 months time. So again its unlikely.
Has he got 18 months on his contract? yes.

Are we half way through this season within a few places of the play offs? Yes

His contract runs until the end of NEXT season, leaving the timescale possible to be promoted twice. BUMP, back to earth .....>>>>

It is hypothetical and not realistic but it is within the realms of (im)possibility
[quote][p][bold]bobby98007[/bold] wrote: How do you go from few places off the playoffs in L1 to few places off the Prem league in 12 months? Its highly unlikely. If thats the thinking we could be Champions League material by the end of the season after. Football rarely works like that. Besides, its a huge financial risk that is not worth taking, if we get a bid in January and its £2 Mil +, we have to sell. Best case would be a loan back job, but Wells isnt 18 and i suspect anyone signing him need him now and not in 12 months time. So again its unlikely.[/p][/quote]Has he got 18 months on his contract? yes. Are we half way through this season within a few places of the play offs? Yes His contract runs until the end of NEXT season, leaving the timescale possible to be promoted twice. BUMP, back to earth .....>>>> It is hypothetical and not realistic but it is within the realms of (im)possibility Prisoner Cell Block A

11:59am Wed 4 Dec 13

lawsonio123 says...

Well Well Well let us see Nahki will go in January his replacement Young Mcburnie The money well say 2/3 million will Parky be given 1 million to strengthen the team for a promotion push NO he will not and he knows we need more power Thompson is past his best Jones is at the end of his football life our full back has reached the limit of his ability they may play on a few more years but not in the Championship 3 positions which need attention if we are to progress I hope I am WRONG about Parky not been given the money and he is left having to pick up free transfers for he has earned the right to be given a large chunk of any transfer fee so he can buy to improve his team if not I can see him leaving if we do not back him with the cash. I shall be sorry to see Nahki go but feel the writing is now on the wall so Good luck Lad ( can you not shock us all and stay)
Well Well Well let us see Nahki will go in January his replacement Young Mcburnie The money well say 2/3 million will Parky be given 1 million to strengthen the team for a promotion push NO he will not and he knows we need more power Thompson is past his best Jones is at the end of his football life our full back has reached the limit of his ability they may play on a few more years but not in the Championship 3 positions which need attention if we are to progress I hope I am WRONG about Parky not been given the money and he is left having to pick up free transfers for he has earned the right to be given a large chunk of any transfer fee so he can buy to improve his team if not I can see him leaving if we do not back him with the cash. I shall be sorry to see Nahki go but feel the writing is now on the wall so Good luck Lad ( can you not shock us all and stay) lawsonio123

12:20pm Wed 4 Dec 13

silverbantam says...

Why don't we just send out Nahki with a "For Sale" sign round his neck ?

We should be keeping him til the end of the season at least as it's worth £10m next season to be in the Championship.

Maybe the directors don't think City are ready for the Chanpionship yet ?

If we sell Nahki in January, that will totally kill our season !
Why don't we just send out Nahki with a "For Sale" sign round his neck ? We should be keeping him til the end of the season at least as it's worth £10m next season to be in the Championship. Maybe the directors don't think City are ready for the Chanpionship yet ? If we sell Nahki in January, that will totally kill our season ! silverbantam

12:25pm Wed 4 Dec 13

tyker7745 says...

silverbantam wrote:
Why don't we just send out Nahki with a "For Sale" sign round his neck ?

We should be keeping him til the end of the season at least as it's worth £10m next season to be in the Championship.

Maybe the directors don't think City are ready for the Chanpionship yet ?

If we sell Nahki in January, that will totally kill our season !
precisely put
[quote][p][bold]silverbantam[/bold] wrote: Why don't we just send out Nahki with a "For Sale" sign round his neck ? We should be keeping him til the end of the season at least as it's worth £10m next season to be in the Championship. Maybe the directors don't think City are ready for the Chanpionship yet ? If we sell Nahki in January, that will totally kill our season ![/p][/quote]precisely put tyker7745

3:27pm Wed 4 Dec 13

lawsonio123 says...

Just remember a SELLING CLUB is just that Selling your best players as a rule leaves a club where they are in the bottom 2 divisions indeed sooner or later in the bottom division City have a large number of supporters now and would do well to remember the old days of 3000 at valley parade. those days must not return to Valley Parade. Having said that the directors have done a good job so far but please remember in order to advance in football one needs to INVEST In Citys case just remember once we went all the way to the TOP to do that money was spent and our good players retained. Start selling and crowds will dwindle invest and they will increase
Just remember a SELLING CLUB is just that Selling your best players as a rule leaves a club where they are in the bottom 2 divisions indeed sooner or later in the bottom division City have a large number of supporters now and would do well to remember the old days of 3000 at valley parade. those days must not return to Valley Parade. Having said that the directors have done a good job so far but please remember in order to advance in football one needs to INVEST In Citys case just remember once we went all the way to the TOP to do that money was spent and our good players retained. Start selling and crowds will dwindle invest and they will increase lawsonio123

4:19pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

lawsonio123 wrote:
Just remember a SELLING CLUB is just that Selling your best players as a rule leaves a club where they are in the bottom 2 divisions indeed sooner or later in the bottom division City have a large number of supporters now and would do well to remember the old days of 3000 at valley parade. those days must not return to Valley Parade. Having said that the directors have done a good job so far but please remember in order to advance in football one needs to INVEST In Citys case just remember once we went all the way to the TOP to do that money was spent and our good players retained. Start selling and crowds will dwindle invest and they will increase
Fair comment and certainly a point for the board to be considering. The goodwill built up can be kept and expanded upon but only by offering the same if not more
[quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Just remember a SELLING CLUB is just that Selling your best players as a rule leaves a club where they are in the bottom 2 divisions indeed sooner or later in the bottom division City have a large number of supporters now and would do well to remember the old days of 3000 at valley parade. those days must not return to Valley Parade. Having said that the directors have done a good job so far but please remember in order to advance in football one needs to INVEST In Citys case just remember once we went all the way to the TOP to do that money was spent and our good players retained. Start selling and crowds will dwindle invest and they will increase[/p][/quote]Fair comment and certainly a point for the board to be considering. The goodwill built up can be kept and expanded upon but only by offering the same if not more Prisoner Cell Block A

4:36pm Wed 4 Dec 13

dannbradfc says...

lawsonio123 wrote:
Just remember a SELLING CLUB is just that Selling your best players as a rule leaves a club where they are in the bottom 2 divisions indeed sooner or later in the bottom division City have a large number of supporters now and would do well to remember the old days of 3000 at valley parade. those days must not return to Valley Parade. Having said that the directors have done a good job so far but please remember in order to advance in football one needs to INVEST In Citys case just remember once we went all the way to the TOP to do that money was spent and our good players retained. Start selling and crowds will dwindle invest and they will increase
Again speculate to accumulate.......

The directors saved the club and we found ourselves out of the bottom division. Howver how many years did it take to acheive that aim? You can't just blame all the managers that failed to win promotion. It came down to resources. We had a top 3 wage budget we were told last season. It got us promoted from the play-offs.

Thus theres no guarantees. One thing is certain is that its not easy to ruise throught the leagues on the cheap. yeovil did it but they are a rare exception. Its often difficult to know the extent of our finances but the chairman keep saying that they are open to offers. How open i.e. what price is another question but they do not currently have the financial muscle to realistically challenge in the championship. we may just be able to make it out of league 1 via the play-offs and good management but then we will struggle untill investment is made from elsewhere imo.....
[quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Just remember a SELLING CLUB is just that Selling your best players as a rule leaves a club where they are in the bottom 2 divisions indeed sooner or later in the bottom division City have a large number of supporters now and would do well to remember the old days of 3000 at valley parade. those days must not return to Valley Parade. Having said that the directors have done a good job so far but please remember in order to advance in football one needs to INVEST In Citys case just remember once we went all the way to the TOP to do that money was spent and our good players retained. Start selling and crowds will dwindle invest and they will increase[/p][/quote]Again speculate to accumulate....... The directors saved the club and we found ourselves out of the bottom division. Howver how many years did it take to acheive that aim? You can't just blame all the managers that failed to win promotion. It came down to resources. We had a top 3 wage budget we were told last season. It got us promoted from the play-offs. Thus theres no guarantees. One thing is certain is that its not easy to ruise throught the leagues on the cheap. yeovil did it but they are a rare exception. Its often difficult to know the extent of our finances but the chairman keep saying that they are open to offers. How open i.e. what price is another question but they do not currently have the financial muscle to realistically challenge in the championship. we may just be able to make it out of league 1 via the play-offs and good management but then we will struggle untill investment is made from elsewhere imo..... dannbradfc

4:42pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

dannbradfc wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote:
Just remember a SELLING CLUB is just that Selling your best players as a rule leaves a club where they are in the bottom 2 divisions indeed sooner or later in the bottom division City have a large number of supporters now and would do well to remember the old days of 3000 at valley parade. those days must not return to Valley Parade. Having said that the directors have done a good job so far but please remember in order to advance in football one needs to INVEST In Citys case just remember once we went all the way to the TOP to do that money was spent and our good players retained. Start selling and crowds will dwindle invest and they will increase
Again speculate to accumulate.......

The directors saved the club and we found ourselves out of the bottom division. Howver how many years did it take to acheive that aim? You can't just blame all the managers that failed to win promotion. It came down to resources. We had a top 3 wage budget we were told last season. It got us promoted from the play-offs.

Thus theres no guarantees. One thing is certain is that its not easy to ruise throught the leagues on the cheap. yeovil did it but they are a rare exception. Its often difficult to know the extent of our finances but the chairman keep saying that they are open to offers. How open i.e. what price is another question but they do not currently have the financial muscle to realistically challenge in the championship. we may just be able to make it out of league 1 via the play-offs and good management but then we will struggle untill investment is made from elsewhere imo.....
TBH this season with the fair play agreement (for most clubs!!!) and only being able to use 60% ?? of turnover, their financial muscle is negligible.

What isn't is the fanbase, 18th overall out of the FL72 so we have the base to be a Championship side, to lose this again and dwindle to 6/7k by penny pinching and selling when a few grand more would see us retain, possibly increase our gate, that would be near criminal and leave the club as a millstone around the chairs neck.

As said, it is a fine balancing act and not worth rubbing their hands over 2-3M as a one off. Hold out for more or offer more and keep him, if we fail to go up, his value won't have gone down that much and he still has 12mth on his contract, someone will still enter a bidding war for him, especially if he continues to rattle em in for the rest of this season.
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Just remember a SELLING CLUB is just that Selling your best players as a rule leaves a club where they are in the bottom 2 divisions indeed sooner or later in the bottom division City have a large number of supporters now and would do well to remember the old days of 3000 at valley parade. those days must not return to Valley Parade. Having said that the directors have done a good job so far but please remember in order to advance in football one needs to INVEST In Citys case just remember once we went all the way to the TOP to do that money was spent and our good players retained. Start selling and crowds will dwindle invest and they will increase[/p][/quote]Again speculate to accumulate....... The directors saved the club and we found ourselves out of the bottom division. Howver how many years did it take to acheive that aim? You can't just blame all the managers that failed to win promotion. It came down to resources. We had a top 3 wage budget we were told last season. It got us promoted from the play-offs. Thus theres no guarantees. One thing is certain is that its not easy to ruise throught the leagues on the cheap. yeovil did it but they are a rare exception. Its often difficult to know the extent of our finances but the chairman keep saying that they are open to offers. How open i.e. what price is another question but they do not currently have the financial muscle to realistically challenge in the championship. we may just be able to make it out of league 1 via the play-offs and good management but then we will struggle untill investment is made from elsewhere imo.....[/p][/quote]TBH this season with the fair play agreement (for most clubs!!!) and only being able to use 60% ?? of turnover, their financial muscle is negligible. What isn't is the fanbase, 18th overall out of the FL72 so we have the base to be a Championship side, to lose this again and dwindle to 6/7k by penny pinching and selling when a few grand more would see us retain, possibly increase our gate, that would be near criminal and leave the club as a millstone around the chairs neck. As said, it is a fine balancing act and not worth rubbing their hands over 2-3M as a one off. Hold out for more or offer more and keep him, if we fail to go up, his value won't have gone down that much and he still has 12mth on his contract, someone will still enter a bidding war for him, especially if he continues to rattle em in for the rest of this season. Prisoner Cell Block A

5:06pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Dannyp1892 says...

I am not ignoring all the prior comments, just too many good one's to single out them out (And some daft ones too of course!)

But this article is about as close to a "COME AND GET HIM" article as you will ever see. This is Rhodes cushioning the blow before January IMO. Good luck to him . Thanks Mr. Wells, It's been emotional, and there's still time for you to stick the boot into Rotherham on December 26th, if you fancy it?
I am not ignoring all the prior comments, just too many good one's to single out them out (And some daft ones too of course!) But this article is about as close to a "COME AND GET HIM" article as you will ever see. This is Rhodes cushioning the blow before January IMO. Good luck to him [wipes tears from eyes]. Thanks Mr. Wells, It's been emotional, and there's still time for you to stick the boot into Rotherham on December 26th, if you fancy it? Dannyp1892

5:19pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

Dwight Gayle went for £6.7 million I think so the money can be there.
Nahki has played 89 and scored 41 and in the same period Gayle has played 101 and scored 51 but part of that is none league at Bishop Stortford and that was played 42 and scored 29.
So Nahki has a good league record and waiting till the end of the season seems about right but our chairmen might want to cash in. But I do feel as people have said above about giving Parky the money and not stashing it elsewhere.
I was told we can't spend all last seasons taking due to the salary cap agreement but that might be able to be used next season.
We have had a terrible run of late and the fixtures this month look very hard so we'll see what happens.
Dwight Gayle went for £6.7 million I think so the money can be there. Nahki has played 89 and scored 41 and in the same period Gayle has played 101 and scored 51 but part of that is none league at Bishop Stortford and that was played 42 and scored 29. So Nahki has a good league record and waiting till the end of the season seems about right but our chairmen might want to cash in. But I do feel as people have said above about giving Parky the money and not stashing it elsewhere. I was told we can't spend all last seasons taking due to the salary cap agreement but that might be able to be used next season. We have had a terrible run of late and the fixtures this month look very hard so we'll see what happens. Papa Smurfs Wig

5:20pm Wed 4 Dec 13

menzies13 says...

Completely agree with most.. the comments are preparing us for whats to come. However I think we should do our upmost to avoid selling in jan unless we can loan him back as it will kill our momentum. Can we not invest some of the cup cash to offer him a big increase rather than take a gamble on someone else..thats if we can attract anyone good enough to fill his boots. Lose wells and we lose our style of play!
Completely agree with most.. the comments are preparing us for whats to come. However I think we should do our upmost to avoid selling in jan unless we can loan him back as it will kill our momentum. Can we not invest some of the cup cash to offer him a big increase rather than take a gamble on someone else..thats if we can attract anyone good enough to fill his boots. Lose wells and we lose our style of play! menzies13

6:40pm Wed 4 Dec 13

tinytoonster says...

menzies13 wrote:
Completely agree with most.. the comments are preparing us for whats to come. However I think we should do our upmost to avoid selling in jan unless we can loan him back as it will kill our momentum. Can we not invest some of the cup cash to offer him a big increase rather than take a gamble on someone else..thats if we can attract anyone good enough to fill his boots. Lose wells and we lose our style of play!
comment above yours says salary cap agreement?
maybe we can't.
[quote][p][bold]menzies13[/bold] wrote: Completely agree with most.. the comments are preparing us for whats to come. However I think we should do our upmost to avoid selling in jan unless we can loan him back as it will kill our momentum. Can we not invest some of the cup cash to offer him a big increase rather than take a gamble on someone else..thats if we can attract anyone good enough to fill his boots. Lose wells and we lose our style of play![/p][/quote]comment above yours says salary cap agreement? maybe we can't. tinytoonster

7:52pm Wed 4 Dec 13

bantam10 says...

Think he should see the season out at least as will not be short of offers in pre season.
Cannot see more than championship clubs coming in for him and we might be playing in that league fingers crossed so why leave Bradford where he is a legend already for another club.
Think he should see the season out at least as will not be short of offers in pre season. Cannot see more than championship clubs coming in for him and we might be playing in that league fingers crossed so why leave Bradford where he is a legend already for another club. bantam10

9:15pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Victor Clayton says...

essess wrote:
Nahki would be a fool not to sign a better long term deal, he loves it here we love him here and the most important key is big James all nahkis succes is down to James. Nahki would have to start all over again to new teammates different style of play NO parkinson and no guarantee of being first name on the teamsheet.THINK LONG AND HARD NAHKI
Although there is always going to be a risk with any move I don't think that fear should be the reason not to do it. At the moment he has to get on the end of jh flick ons and finish (something he is extremely good at). But surely he must want to test himself at a better standard? I hope he stays until the end of the season because we struggle without him, but I wish him luck whatever. I think nahki and jh are a good partnership but I think if anyone is reliant on the other then it's jh on nk.
[quote][p][bold]essess[/bold] wrote: Nahki would be a fool not to sign a better long term deal, he loves it here we love him here and the most important key is big James all nahkis succes is down to James. Nahki would have to start all over again to new teammates different style of play NO parkinson and no guarantee of being first name on the teamsheet.THINK LONG AND HARD NAHKI[/p][/quote]Although there is always going to be a risk with any move I don't think that fear should be the reason not to do it. At the moment he has to get on the end of jh flick ons and finish (something he is extremely good at). But surely he must want to test himself at a better standard? I hope he stays until the end of the season because we struggle without him, but I wish him luck whatever. I think nahki and jh are a good partnership but I think if anyone is reliant on the other then it's jh on nk. Victor Clayton

9:48pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Cityman23 says...

LaCe78 wrote:
essess wrote:
Nahki would be a fool not to sign a better long term deal, he loves it here we love him here and the most important key is big James all nahkis succes is down to James. Nahki would have to start all over again to new teammates different style of play NO parkinson and no guarantee of being first name on the teamsheet.THINK LONG AND HARD NAHKI
My thoughts exactly! I'm hoping he's not thinking the grass is always greener, in this case, it may not be! You look back at the likes of Graeme Tomlinson, who made their name with us then left for the dollars and the dream of the higher leagues, and ended up lost in the footballing abyss, first warming the bench then ultimately released! Nahki is in a fantastic position to be able to continue his footballing development under PP, earn more cash on an improved long term contract if he so chooses, and what's more, stick with the club who have him his break, a team clearly on the up, and where the fans love him enough to become a club legend if he continues to develop! We've seen too many leave for the wrong reasons, I for one hope Nahki can see this and commits to City and concentrates on getting us into the Championship (where there'd be a pot of gold waiting in terms of bonuses should he do that!)
Nahki wells is a superior player to Graeme Tomlinson (who was a good one), and you only have to look at his goal tally this season for proof of that. Yes, I agree that staying till the end of the season makes sense for him as well as us but the financial rewards likely to be offered by teams in a higher league are something with which we can't compete.

The truth is football has changed from the days players stayed years with clubs out of loyalty. We supporters see City first/last but to most players these days, they'll go anywhere that will pay the sort of money they aspire to. And in all fairness, we can't really blame him or them for that. It's a short, risky career and they need to make the most of it.

If/when Nahki goes we will NOT be able to replace him like for like-Nahki's too special for that-but hopefully 'PP' is ALREADY scouting/searching for a possible 'successor'. And of course Nahki will always have a special place in the memories of all City fans who saw him play and score one of his incredible goals!
[quote][p][bold]LaCe78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]essess[/bold] wrote: Nahki would be a fool not to sign a better long term deal, he loves it here we love him here and the most important key is big James all nahkis succes is down to James. Nahki would have to start all over again to new teammates different style of play NO parkinson and no guarantee of being first name on the teamsheet.THINK LONG AND HARD NAHKI[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly! I'm hoping he's not thinking the grass is always greener, in this case, it may not be! You look back at the likes of Graeme Tomlinson, who made their name with us then left for the dollars and the dream of the higher leagues, and ended up lost in the footballing abyss, first warming the bench then ultimately released! Nahki is in a fantastic position to be able to continue his footballing development under PP, earn more cash on an improved long term contract if he so chooses, and what's more, stick with the club who have him his break, a team clearly on the up, and where the fans love him enough to become a club legend if he continues to develop! We've seen too many leave for the wrong reasons, I for one hope Nahki can see this and commits to City and concentrates on getting us into the Championship (where there'd be a pot of gold waiting in terms of bonuses should he do that!)[/p][/quote]Nahki wells is a superior player to Graeme Tomlinson (who was a good one), and you only have to look at his goal tally this season for proof of that. Yes, I agree that staying till the end of the season makes sense for him as well as us but the financial rewards likely to be offered by teams in a higher league are something with which we can't compete. The truth is football has changed from the days players stayed years with clubs out of loyalty. We supporters see City first/last but to most players these days, they'll go anywhere that will pay the sort of money they aspire to. And in all fairness, we can't really blame him or them for that. It's a short, risky career and they need to make the most of it. If/when Nahki goes we will NOT be able to replace him like for like-Nahki's too special for that-but hopefully 'PP' is ALREADY scouting/searching for a possible 'successor'. And of course Nahki will always have a special place in the memories of all City fans who saw him play and score one of his incredible goals! Cityman23

9:48pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Cityman23 says...

LaCe78 wrote:
essess wrote:
Nahki would be a fool not to sign a better long term deal, he loves it here we love him here and the most important key is big James all nahkis succes is down to James. Nahki would have to start all over again to new teammates different style of play NO parkinson and no guarantee of being first name on the teamsheet.THINK LONG AND HARD NAHKI
My thoughts exactly! I'm hoping he's not thinking the grass is always greener, in this case, it may not be! You look back at the likes of Graeme Tomlinson, who made their name with us then left for the dollars and the dream of the higher leagues, and ended up lost in the footballing abyss, first warming the bench then ultimately released! Nahki is in a fantastic position to be able to continue his footballing development under PP, earn more cash on an improved long term contract if he so chooses, and what's more, stick with the club who have him his break, a team clearly on the up, and where the fans love him enough to become a club legend if he continues to develop! We've seen too many leave for the wrong reasons, I for one hope Nahki can see this and commits to City and concentrates on getting us into the Championship (where there'd be a pot of gold waiting in terms of bonuses should he do that!)
Nahki wells is a superior player to Graeme Tomlinson (who was a good one), and you only have to look at his goal tally this season for proof of that. Yes, I agree that staying till the end of the season makes sense for him as well as us but the financial rewards likely to be offered by teams in a higher league are something with which we can't compete.

The truth is football has changed from the days players stayed years with clubs out of loyalty. We supporters see City first/last but to most players these days, they'll go anywhere that will pay the sort of money they aspire to. And in all fairness, we can't really blame him or them for that. It's a short, risky career and they need to make the most of it.

If/when Nahki goes we will NOT be able to replace him like for like-Nahki's too special for that-but hopefully 'PP' is ALREADY scouting/searching for a possible 'successor'. And of course Nahki will always have a special place in the memories of all City fans who saw him play and score one of his incredible goals!
[quote][p][bold]LaCe78[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]essess[/bold] wrote: Nahki would be a fool not to sign a better long term deal, he loves it here we love him here and the most important key is big James all nahkis succes is down to James. Nahki would have to start all over again to new teammates different style of play NO parkinson and no guarantee of being first name on the teamsheet.THINK LONG AND HARD NAHKI[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly! I'm hoping he's not thinking the grass is always greener, in this case, it may not be! You look back at the likes of Graeme Tomlinson, who made their name with us then left for the dollars and the dream of the higher leagues, and ended up lost in the footballing abyss, first warming the bench then ultimately released! Nahki is in a fantastic position to be able to continue his footballing development under PP, earn more cash on an improved long term contract if he so chooses, and what's more, stick with the club who have him his break, a team clearly on the up, and where the fans love him enough to become a club legend if he continues to develop! We've seen too many leave for the wrong reasons, I for one hope Nahki can see this and commits to City and concentrates on getting us into the Championship (where there'd be a pot of gold waiting in terms of bonuses should he do that!)[/p][/quote]Nahki wells is a superior player to Graeme Tomlinson (who was a good one), and you only have to look at his goal tally this season for proof of that. Yes, I agree that staying till the end of the season makes sense for him as well as us but the financial rewards likely to be offered by teams in a higher league are something with which we can't compete. The truth is football has changed from the days players stayed years with clubs out of loyalty. We supporters see City first/last but to most players these days, they'll go anywhere that will pay the sort of money they aspire to. And in all fairness, we can't really blame him or them for that. It's a short, risky career and they need to make the most of it. If/when Nahki goes we will NOT be able to replace him like for like-Nahki's too special for that-but hopefully 'PP' is ALREADY scouting/searching for a possible 'successor'. And of course Nahki will always have a special place in the memories of all City fans who saw him play and score one of his incredible goals! Cityman23

12:39am Thu 5 Dec 13

Bradford1903 says...

Think you have got to be realistic and the only chance of him signing a new contract is if we are in the Championship. The best chance we have got of getting in the Championship is to keep him.

If clubs come in for him in January they will also come in for him in the summer.

If we don't get promoted this season, then that will be the time to sell him, so he doesn't run his contract down and leave on a free.

I wouldn't even consider selling him in January unless we get silly money.
Think you have got to be realistic and the only chance of him signing a new contract is if we are in the Championship. The best chance we have got of getting in the Championship is to keep him. If clubs come in for him in January they will also come in for him in the summer. If we don't get promoted this season, then that will be the time to sell him, so he doesn't run his contract down and leave on a free. I wouldn't even consider selling him in January unless we get silly money. Bradford1903

7:15am Thu 5 Dec 13

bradford321 says...

I think the writing is on the wall and it is inevitable he will go in Jan. It sounds to me like we have another overspend and we are desperate to balance the books.

The 2 major knock on concerns to will then be:

1. How will the other players such as Davis and Doyle react to this? Will it signal the time for them to want to move on too?

2. How much of any income we get for him be given to Parky? If the board are not careful with this particularly, it could also be the signal for Parky time to move on as we are in danger of getting to the limit of what this club can achieve on these turnovers if he doesn't get much. This is pivotal to where BCAFC go next. Get this wrong and Parky will be off at the first chance and we will head for decline again.
I think the writing is on the wall and it is inevitable he will go in Jan. It sounds to me like we have another overspend and we are desperate to balance the books. The 2 major knock on concerns to will then be: 1. How will the other players such as Davis and Doyle react to this? Will it signal the time for them to want to move on too? 2. How much of any income we get for him be given to Parky? If the board are not careful with this particularly, it could also be the signal for Parky time to move on as we are in danger of getting to the limit of what this club can achieve on these turnovers if he doesn't get much. This is pivotal to where BCAFC go next. Get this wrong and Parky will be off at the first chance and we will head for decline again. bradford321

8:03am Thu 5 Dec 13

Michael Clayton says...

References are made to the Championship. It has also got to be considered that the club is only twelve points above the relegation zone. The biggest single disaster would be a return to League Two and this has to be a possibility without Wells (or an adequate replacement in the event of his departure).

Finance is the most important consideration; so can the club 'afford' to take the risk of selling him in January?

Everyone on here can take a punt at what is likely to happen. Being an amateur pundit is part of the fun. However, we can only guess as to the state of the balance sheet.

Remember, money has no real value unless it is spent or used to avert a crisis.
References are made to the Championship. It has also got to be considered that the club is only twelve points above the relegation zone. The biggest single disaster would be a return to League Two and this has to be a possibility without Wells (or an adequate replacement in the event of his departure). Finance is the most important consideration; so can the club 'afford' to take the risk of selling him in January? Everyone on here can take a punt at what is likely to happen. Being an amateur pundit is part of the fun. However, we can only guess as to the state of the balance sheet. Remember, money has no real value unless it is spent or used to avert a crisis. Michael Clayton

9:03am Thu 5 Dec 13

dannbradfc says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote:
Just remember a SELLING CLUB is just that Selling your best players as a rule leaves a club where they are in the bottom 2 divisions indeed sooner or later in the bottom division City have a large number of supporters now and would do well to remember the old days of 3000 at valley parade. those days must not return to Valley Parade. Having said that the directors have done a good job so far but please remember in order to advance in football one needs to INVEST In Citys case just remember once we went all the way to the TOP to do that money was spent and our good players retained. Start selling and crowds will dwindle invest and they will increase
Again speculate to accumulate.......

The directors saved the club and we found ourselves out of the bottom division. Howver how many years did it take to acheive that aim? You can't just blame all the managers that failed to win promotion. It came down to resources. We had a top 3 wage budget we were told last season. It got us promoted from the play-offs.

Thus theres no guarantees. One thing is certain is that its not easy to ruise throught the leagues on the cheap. yeovil did it but they are a rare exception. Its often difficult to know the extent of our finances but the chairman keep saying that they are open to offers. How open i.e. what price is another question but they do not currently have the financial muscle to realistically challenge in the championship. we may just be able to make it out of league 1 via the play-offs and good management but then we will struggle untill investment is made from elsewhere imo.....
TBH this season with the fair play agreement (for most clubs!!!) and only being able to use 60% ?? of turnover, their financial muscle is negligible.

What isn't is the fanbase, 18th overall out of the FL72 so we have the base to be a Championship side, to lose this again and dwindle to 6/7k by penny pinching and selling when a few grand more would see us retain, possibly increase our gate, that would be near criminal and leave the club as a millstone around the chairs neck.

As said, it is a fine balancing act and not worth rubbing their hands over 2-3M as a one off. Hold out for more or offer more and keep him, if we fail to go up, his value won't have gone down that much and he still has 12mth on his contract, someone will still enter a bidding war for him, especially if he continues to rattle em in for the rest of this season.
which makes rhodes almost 'advertisement' rather worrying really. Whilst he's correct in many ways i agree with you that IF we are to move forwards there will be a financial risk involved. However it will/can pay back. Richmond family walked away with 12 million (with little risk to himself) with approx 3 million spent on players (plus wages etc). Whilst things are different now financial wise, the principle is the same. However theres no guarantees as we know. hence the risk/gamble element. If we could maintain a few years in the championship any investment to get there would be more than returned.

Even if we adopted a policy that at least half the money from sales of players were reinvested it would at least have a policy for the manger to adopt into his thinking. Apart from the paltry 7500 grands on Hanson was as been spent on players? Therein partly lies the reason why we spent so long in the basement division. We invested on wages last season and it paid off. If we think we can do a yeovil then we could be in for a shock.......speculat
e to accumulate.....
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Just remember a SELLING CLUB is just that Selling your best players as a rule leaves a club where they are in the bottom 2 divisions indeed sooner or later in the bottom division City have a large number of supporters now and would do well to remember the old days of 3000 at valley parade. those days must not return to Valley Parade. Having said that the directors have done a good job so far but please remember in order to advance in football one needs to INVEST In Citys case just remember once we went all the way to the TOP to do that money was spent and our good players retained. Start selling and crowds will dwindle invest and they will increase[/p][/quote]Again speculate to accumulate....... The directors saved the club and we found ourselves out of the bottom division. Howver how many years did it take to acheive that aim? You can't just blame all the managers that failed to win promotion. It came down to resources. We had a top 3 wage budget we were told last season. It got us promoted from the play-offs. Thus theres no guarantees. One thing is certain is that its not easy to ruise throught the leagues on the cheap. yeovil did it but they are a rare exception. Its often difficult to know the extent of our finances but the chairman keep saying that they are open to offers. How open i.e. what price is another question but they do not currently have the financial muscle to realistically challenge in the championship. we may just be able to make it out of league 1 via the play-offs and good management but then we will struggle untill investment is made from elsewhere imo.....[/p][/quote]TBH this season with the fair play agreement (for most clubs!!!) and only being able to use 60% ?? of turnover, their financial muscle is negligible. What isn't is the fanbase, 18th overall out of the FL72 so we have the base to be a Championship side, to lose this again and dwindle to 6/7k by penny pinching and selling when a few grand more would see us retain, possibly increase our gate, that would be near criminal and leave the club as a millstone around the chairs neck. As said, it is a fine balancing act and not worth rubbing their hands over 2-3M as a one off. Hold out for more or offer more and keep him, if we fail to go up, his value won't have gone down that much and he still has 12mth on his contract, someone will still enter a bidding war for him, especially if he continues to rattle em in for the rest of this season.[/p][/quote]which makes rhodes almost 'advertisement' rather worrying really. Whilst he's correct in many ways i agree with you that IF we are to move forwards there will be a financial risk involved. However it will/can pay back. Richmond family walked away with 12 million (with little risk to himself) with approx 3 million spent on players (plus wages etc). Whilst things are different now financial wise, the principle is the same. However theres no guarantees as we know. hence the risk/gamble element. If we could maintain a few years in the championship any investment to get there would be more than returned. Even if we adopted a policy that at least half the money from sales of players were reinvested it would at least have a policy for the manger to adopt into his thinking. Apart from the paltry 7500 grands on Hanson was as been spent on players? Therein partly lies the reason why we spent so long in the basement division. We invested on wages last season and it paid off. If we think we can do a yeovil then we could be in for a shock.......speculat e to accumulate..... dannbradfc

11:34am Thu 5 Dec 13

lawsonio123 says...

The whole point of all this Is are we going to be a selling club and stagnate or are we going to be the Sleeping Giant which as woken now and progress Rhodes is covering up on a done deal I feel. Poor Parky will be left to try to fill the hole left by Wells departure REALY all this could have been avoided for wells is still under contract for a year and half and nothing needed doing UNLESS a deal was already in the pipe line. The bottom line Sell and stagnate or Build and Progress I saw a fair player at Scunthorpe called WINNALL just a thought
The whole point of all this Is are we going to be a selling club and stagnate or are we going to be the Sleeping Giant which as woken now and progress Rhodes is covering up on a done deal I feel. Poor Parky will be left to try to fill the hole left by Wells departure REALY all this could have been avoided for wells is still under contract for a year and half and nothing needed doing UNLESS a deal was already in the pipe line. The bottom line Sell and stagnate or Build and Progress I saw a fair player at Scunthorpe called WINNALL just a thought lawsonio123

1:06pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Victor Clayton says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
References are made to the Championship. It has also got to be considered that the club is only twelve points above the relegation zone. The biggest single disaster would be a return to League Two and this has to be a possibility without Wells (or an adequate replacement in the event of his departure). Finance is the most important consideration; so can the club 'afford' to take the risk of selling him in January? Everyone on here can take a punt at what is likely to happen. Being an amateur pundit is part of the fun. However, we can only guess as to the state of the balance sheet. Remember, money has no real value unless it is spent or used to avert a crisis.
agree, compared to a few seasons ago our game is miles better. but i have been impressed by the standard of football in this league.
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: References are made to the Championship. It has also got to be considered that the club is only twelve points above the relegation zone. The biggest single disaster would be a return to League Two and this has to be a possibility without Wells (or an adequate replacement in the event of his departure). Finance is the most important consideration; so can the club 'afford' to take the risk of selling him in January? Everyone on here can take a punt at what is likely to happen. Being an amateur pundit is part of the fun. However, we can only guess as to the state of the balance sheet. Remember, money has no real value unless it is spent or used to avert a crisis.[/p][/quote]agree, compared to a few seasons ago our game is miles better. but i have been impressed by the standard of football in this league. Victor Clayton

4:09pm Thu 5 Dec 13

audal says...

5K per wk=2.6k per annum equates to £1.3m for a 5yr deal so whats the prob? unless it is a certain club down the road who have a couple of mill. to spend
5K per wk=2.6k per annum equates to £1.3m for a 5yr deal so whats the prob? unless it is a certain club down the road who have a couple of mill. to spend audal

5:27pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Mick, Cleckheaton says...

audal wrote:
5K per wk=2.6k per annum equates to £1.3m for a 5yr deal so whats the prob? unless it is a certain club down the road who have a couple of mill. to spend
Could it be that £5k a week (which is probably not much less than he is getting now) may only be a fraction of what he could earn in the championship/premier
ship?
[quote][p][bold]audal[/bold] wrote: 5K per wk=2.6k per annum equates to £1.3m for a 5yr deal so whats the prob? unless it is a certain club down the road who have a couple of mill. to spend[/p][/quote]Could it be that £5k a week (which is probably not much less than he is getting now) may only be a fraction of what he could earn in the championship/premier ship? Mick, Cleckheaton

5:29pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Mick, Cleckheaton says...

Mick, Cleckheaton wrote:
audal wrote:
5K per wk=2.6k per annum equates to £1.3m for a 5yr deal so whats the prob? unless it is a certain club down the road who have a couple of mill. to spend
Could it be that £5k a week (which is probably not much less than he is getting now) may only be a fraction of what he could earn in the championship/premier

ship?
more not less!
[quote][p][bold]Mick, Cleckheaton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]audal[/bold] wrote: 5K per wk=2.6k per annum equates to £1.3m for a 5yr deal so whats the prob? unless it is a certain club down the road who have a couple of mill. to spend[/p][/quote]Could it be that £5k a week (which is probably not much less than he is getting now) may only be a fraction of what he could earn in the championship/premier ship?[/p][/quote]more not less! Mick, Cleckheaton

9:19pm Thu 5 Dec 13

fatbloke says...

My prediction is if Nakhi tries to jump to far to soon because he gets sucked in by the money on offer he will regret it within 2 years.

I don't blame any club (no matter how big) taking a punt on him while he is cheap because he could and I say could because for me it's far from inconclusive if he can play above league 1. The big boys can afford to take the punt but I think Nakhi should think very long and hard, these clubs don't have his well being at heart.

If he is the world class super star 'some' of our fans think he already is he will get his chance in a few years time when he has matured/improved as a player.

I believe he can earn 5k a week with us and that's more then enough for a man his age who 'could' have a very decent career.
My prediction is if Nakhi tries to jump to far to soon because he gets sucked in by the money on offer he will regret it within 2 years. I don't blame any club (no matter how big) taking a punt on him while he is cheap because he could and I say could because for me it's far from inconclusive if he can play above league 1. The big boys can afford to take the punt but I think Nakhi should think very long and hard, these clubs don't have his well being at heart. If he is the world class super star 'some' of our fans think he already is he will get his chance in a few years time when he has matured/improved as a player. I believe he can earn 5k a week with us and that's more then enough for a man his age who 'could' have a very decent career. fatbloke

10:33pm Mon 30 Dec 13

D.unstable says...

I've heard that Watford are very interested and will be putting a 1.5 million offer on the table soon.
I've heard that Watford are very interested and will be putting a 1.5 million offer on the table soon. D.unstable

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