Mark Lawn hails special bond that is secret behind Bradford City's success

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: CITY UNITED: Mark Lawn says the players’ tight bond can take them even higher up the league ladder CITY UNITED: Mark Lawn says the players’ tight bond can take them even higher up the league ladder

Phil Parkinson’s City have rekindled the spirit of 1985 during their history-making promotion campaign.

Mark Lawn reckons the bond between the current squad is the strongest since that legendary Valley Parade team of Stuart McCall, Bobby Campbell and John Hendrie.

The fans will get the chance to see their new heroes celebrate winning the League Two play-offs at tonight’s open-top bus parade. The squad set off from the ground at 6.30pm before the party really kicks in at City Hall in front of a predicted audience of thousands.

Joint-chairman Lawn believes that Parkinson – who is set to tie up his future with the club today – has generated such a powerful feeling among the players that it can keep propelling the Bantams further up the league ladder.

He said: “The spirit is amazing and I think it’s the best since the 1985 team.

“I know a few from then – Mark Ellis is one of my best friends, Stuart obviously, John Hendrie, Peter Jackson, Greg Abbott – and they were just like fans playing on the pitch. You get that same sense from watching this side. That’s what Phil has got into them and it’s so important.

“I gave him a hug on Saturday night and said I’m glad we didn’t sign so and so. I won’t mention the player’s name.

“Even though he’s a prolific goal-scorer, he would have been a bad egg and Phil was right to say no. We haven’t got anyone like that in this squad.

“When the new Premier League parachute payments kick in, it’s going to throw the whole league skew whiff. It’s not going to be money that overcomes that and breaks the stranglehold, it will be team spirit – and Phil has proved that his sides have that.”

Parkinson will spend the day discussing contracts with the board – not just his own and his backroom staff but the players whose current deals are also up at the end of next month. City are still to announce their retained list.

Lawn, who expects the whole management team to sign on the dotted line, admits the club’s extended season – and Parkinson’s single-minded approach to the play-offs – has left them with a hectic schedule to make up.

He said: “Realistically nothing gets done until June but we didn’t do anything before the play-offs so we’ve got a lot of work to do.

“Phil wouldn’t let us do anything else after the season ended. He didn’t want to talk about his contract, about plans for any celebration, anything – it was all about the play-offs, nothing else.

“And after we lost the first Burton game, the man just switched totally into business mode – and look what we did. He proved that to be the right decision.

“It’s not a complete overhaul this time. We certainly want to keep young (Carl) McHugh and there are a lot of business deals to be done.

“You’ve also got the likes of Luke Oliver coming back from injury. Phil’s a very shrewd man so he’ll know where to strengthen or not.”

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8:00am Wed 22 May 13

Lancashire Bantam says...

In Parky we trust,can't wait for next season.
I wonder who the bad egg was? anyone any ideas?
In Parky we trust,can't wait for next season. I wonder who the bad egg was? anyone any ideas? Lancashire Bantam

8:11am Wed 22 May 13

Plastic Bantam says...

I reckon Lee Hughes
I reckon Lee Hughes Plastic Bantam

8:22am Wed 22 May 13

Rambo says...

Plastic Bantam wrote:
I reckon Lee Hughes
He would fit the bill - prolific goalscorers are hard to come by at this level. Even with his past and reputation he always finds the net.

Maybe Benson for all the umming and ahhing?
[quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: I reckon Lee Hughes[/p][/quote]He would fit the bill - prolific goalscorers are hard to come by at this level. Even with his past and reputation he always finds the net. Maybe Benson for all the umming and ahhing? Rambo

8:27am Wed 22 May 13

Plastic Bantam says...

Rambo wrote:
Plastic Bantam wrote:
I reckon Lee Hughes
He would fit the bill - prolific goalscorers are hard to come by at this level. Even with his past and reputation he always finds the net.

Maybe Benson for all the umming and ahhing?
Yes he doe... But would you want a man who ran over someone and drove off leaving them to die representing our club?!?!

anyways... Know he's a bit old but see Taylor-Fletcher is out of contract, he's get 10 goals a season in league 1
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: I reckon Lee Hughes[/p][/quote]He would fit the bill - prolific goalscorers are hard to come by at this level. Even with his past and reputation he always finds the net. Maybe Benson for all the umming and ahhing?[/p][/quote]Yes he doe... But would you want a man who ran over someone and drove off leaving them to die representing our club?!?! anyways... Know he's a bit old but see Taylor-Fletcher is out of contract, he's get 10 goals a season in league 1 Plastic Bantam

8:31am Wed 22 May 13

Freddy says...

*
Would have liked the City Crowd to have been the background to the Photograph at the Head of this Article..
As it is it shows all the Northampton supporters had left the ground!!!
*
Waiting for 'Parky' 's confirmation that he and ALL his coaching team are signed to at least the next TWO years.
*
The Bad Egg---choice of two?. The Rugby Player who came on for Northampton. Hughes--and possibly one other. But what of Gray?. Signed as a back up player for 'Big Jim'. But I don't think he will stay--despite his contract .
*
Hope everyone enjoys the CELEBRATIONS tonight. Wish I could be there!.
*
* Would have liked the City Crowd to have been the background to the Photograph at the Head of this Article.. As it is it shows all the Northampton supporters had left the ground!!! * Waiting for 'Parky' 's confirmation that he and ALL his coaching team are signed to at least the next TWO years. * The Bad Egg---choice of two?. The Rugby Player who came on for Northampton. Hughes--and possibly one other. But what of Gray?. Signed as a back up player for 'Big Jim'. But I don't think he will stay--despite his contract . * Hope everyone enjoys the CELEBRATIONS tonight. Wish I could be there!. * Freddy

8:52am Wed 22 May 13

tyker2 says...

Plastic Bantam wrote:
Rambo wrote:
Plastic Bantam wrote:
I reckon Lee Hughes
He would fit the bill - prolific goalscorers are hard to come by at this level. Even with his past and reputation he always finds the net.

Maybe Benson for all the umming and ahhing?
Yes he doe... But would you want a man who ran over someone and drove off leaving them to die representing our club?!?!

anyways... Know he's a bit old but see Taylor-Fletcher is out of contract, he's get 10 goals a season in league 1
NO and no to the other bloke
[quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: I reckon Lee Hughes[/p][/quote]He would fit the bill - prolific goalscorers are hard to come by at this level. Even with his past and reputation he always finds the net. Maybe Benson for all the umming and ahhing?[/p][/quote]Yes he doe... But would you want a man who ran over someone and drove off leaving them to die representing our club?!?! anyways... Know he's a bit old but see Taylor-Fletcher is out of contract, he's get 10 goals a season in league 1[/p][/quote]NO and no to the other bloke tyker2

8:55am Wed 22 May 13

Wembley x2 says...

Clayton Donaldson another big man
Clayton Donaldson another big man Wembley x2

8:56am Wed 22 May 13

Plastic Bantam says...

tyker2 wrote:
Plastic Bantam wrote:
Rambo wrote:
Plastic Bantam wrote:
I reckon Lee Hughes
He would fit the bill - prolific goalscorers are hard to come by at this level. Even with his past and reputation he always finds the net.

Maybe Benson for all the umming and ahhing?
Yes he doe... But would you want a man who ran over someone and drove off leaving them to die representing our club?!?!

anyways... Know he's a bit old but see Taylor-Fletcher is out of contract, he's get 10 goals a season in league 1
NO and no to the other bloke
Never know, Gray might find a bit of form with getting a full pre-season with the club... I'm sure all us fans who are Disgruntled with him atm would love to eat some more humble pie.... Although I imagine some fans are fed up with humble pie after this season ha ha ha CTID
[quote][p][bold]tyker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: I reckon Lee Hughes[/p][/quote]He would fit the bill - prolific goalscorers are hard to come by at this level. Even with his past and reputation he always finds the net. Maybe Benson for all the umming and ahhing?[/p][/quote]Yes he doe... But would you want a man who ran over someone and drove off leaving them to die representing our club?!?! anyways... Know he's a bit old but see Taylor-Fletcher is out of contract, he's get 10 goals a season in league 1[/p][/quote]NO and no to the other bloke[/p][/quote]Never know, Gray might find a bit of form with getting a full pre-season with the club... I'm sure all us fans who are Disgruntled with him atm would love to eat some more humble pie.... Although I imagine some fans are fed up with humble pie after this season ha ha ha CTID Plastic Bantam

8:57am Wed 22 May 13

Cityman23 says...

"PENANCE"

Yes..it's finally...THAT time!!

WE CAN'T PUT IT OFF...ANY LONGER!!

You know who you are....and what you posted here..in the past...or perhaps It was a thought..that fleetingly passed through your mind?!!

You know what I'm talking about...the little nagging ..doubts..or was it a ...big doubt?

Perhaps it was minor hostility...or even full-on...nastiness!
!

You know what I mean..

"'PP' doesn't know what he's doing!!"

"What's he playing at?"

"What's he playing Hanson for?"

"Hanson's a woodentop"

"Parkie's a DEADBEAT!!"

"Taxi for 'Parkie'!"

So...what's it to be...??? It's time to man-up or 'woman-up'...if you were a doubting female!!

A year eating gruel!???

Sackcloth and ashes!!???

A month shopping with your other 'half'!!?? (AAAAaagh!!)

A week weeding the garden!!!??

Six month watching LUFC!!

Or....self flaggelation with a city flag's stick!!??


It's time to admit....you (er ..we) were...(that's MOST OF US by the way).....were....

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!

(I'm going for the self-flaggelation!!)
"PENANCE" Yes..it's finally...THAT time!! WE CAN'T PUT IT OFF...ANY LONGER!! You know who you are....and what you posted here..in the past...or perhaps It was a thought..that fleetingly passed through your mind?!! You know what I'm talking about...the little nagging ..doubts..or was it a ...big doubt? Perhaps it was minor hostility...or even full-on...nastiness! ! You know what I mean.. "'PP' doesn't know what he's doing!!" "What's he playing at?" "What's he playing Hanson for?" "Hanson's a woodentop" "Parkie's a DEADBEAT!!" "Taxi for 'Parkie'!" So...what's it to be...??? It's time to man-up or 'woman-up'...if you were a doubting female!! A year eating gruel!??? Sackcloth and ashes!!??? A month shopping with your other 'half'!!?? (AAAAaagh!!) A week weeding the garden!!!?? Six month watching LUFC!! Or....self flaggelation with a city flag's stick!!?? It's time to admit....you (er ..we) were...(that's MOST OF US by the way).....were.... WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! (I'm going for the self-flaggelation!!) Cityman23

9:43am Wed 22 May 13

Avenger78 says...

Cityman23 wrote:
"PENANCE"

Yes..it's finally...THAT time!!

WE CAN'T PUT IT OFF...ANY LONGER!!

You know who you are....and what you posted here..in the past...or perhaps It was a thought..that fleetingly passed through your mind?!!

You know what I'm talking about...the little nagging ..doubts..or was it a ...big doubt?

Perhaps it was minor hostility...or even full-on...nastiness!

!

You know what I mean..

"'PP' doesn't know what he's doing!!"

"What's he playing at?"

"What's he playing Hanson for?"

"Hanson's a woodentop"

"Parkie's a DEADBEAT!!"

"Taxi for 'Parkie'!"

So...what's it to be...??? It's time to man-up or 'woman-up'...if you were a doubting female!!

A year eating gruel!???

Sackcloth and ashes!!???

A month shopping with your other 'half'!!?? (AAAAaagh!!)

A week weeding the garden!!!??

Six month watching LUFC!!

Or....self flaggelation with a city flag's stick!!??


It's time to admit....you (er ..we) were...(that's MOST OF US by the way).....were....

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!

(I'm going for the self-flaggelation!!)
People have a right to be p1ssed..their was some times i called them names got fed up but thats football.. the high and the lows we have had nothing but lows since we got relegated from premiership... now it going to be the end of the end of the lows and now its the beginning of the highs.. a decade of nothing as fans we bloody deserve the highs now ITs LONG TIME COMING
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: "PENANCE" Yes..it's finally...THAT time!! WE CAN'T PUT IT OFF...ANY LONGER!! You know who you are....and what you posted here..in the past...or perhaps It was a thought..that fleetingly passed through your mind?!! You know what I'm talking about...the little nagging ..doubts..or was it a ...big doubt? Perhaps it was minor hostility...or even full-on...nastiness! ! You know what I mean.. "'PP' doesn't know what he's doing!!" "What's he playing at?" "What's he playing Hanson for?" "Hanson's a woodentop" "Parkie's a DEADBEAT!!" "Taxi for 'Parkie'!" So...what's it to be...??? It's time to man-up or 'woman-up'...if you were a doubting female!! A year eating gruel!??? Sackcloth and ashes!!??? A month shopping with your other 'half'!!?? (AAAAaagh!!) A week weeding the garden!!!?? Six month watching LUFC!! Or....self flaggelation with a city flag's stick!!?? It's time to admit....you (er ..we) were...(that's MOST OF US by the way).....were.... WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! (I'm going for the self-flaggelation!!)[/p][/quote]People have a right to be p1ssed..their was some times i called them names got fed up but thats football.. the high and the lows we have had nothing but lows since we got relegated from premiership... now it going to be the end of the end of the lows and now its the beginning of the highs.. a decade of nothing as fans we bloody deserve the highs now ITs LONG TIME COMING Avenger78

9:54am Wed 22 May 13

KnightMcCall says...

Cityman23 wrote:
"PENANCE"

Yes..it's finally...THAT time!!

WE CAN'T PUT IT OFF...ANY LONGER!!

You know who you are....and what you posted here..in the past...or perhaps It was a thought..that fleetingly passed through your mind?!!

You know what I'm talking about...the little nagging ..doubts..or was it a ...big doubt?

Perhaps it was minor hostility...or even full-on...nastiness!

!

You know what I mean..

"'PP' doesn't know what he's doing!!"

"What's he playing at?"

"What's he playing Hanson for?"

"Hanson's a woodentop"

"Parkie's a DEADBEAT!!"

"Taxi for 'Parkie'!"

So...what's it to be...??? It's time to man-up or 'woman-up'...if you were a doubting female!!

A year eating gruel!???

Sackcloth and ashes!!???

A month shopping with your other 'half'!!?? (AAAAaagh!!)

A week weeding the garden!!!??

Six month watching LUFC!!

Or....self flaggelation with a city flag's stick!!??


It's time to admit....you (er ..we) were...(that's MOST OF US by the way).....were....

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!

(I'm going for the self-flaggelation!!)
Give us a big positive Jules and Lawnie and you will be forgiven...make it funny though!
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: "PENANCE" Yes..it's finally...THAT time!! WE CAN'T PUT IT OFF...ANY LONGER!! You know who you are....and what you posted here..in the past...or perhaps It was a thought..that fleetingly passed through your mind?!! You know what I'm talking about...the little nagging ..doubts..or was it a ...big doubt? Perhaps it was minor hostility...or even full-on...nastiness! ! You know what I mean.. "'PP' doesn't know what he's doing!!" "What's he playing at?" "What's he playing Hanson for?" "Hanson's a woodentop" "Parkie's a DEADBEAT!!" "Taxi for 'Parkie'!" So...what's it to be...??? It's time to man-up or 'woman-up'...if you were a doubting female!! A year eating gruel!??? Sackcloth and ashes!!??? A month shopping with your other 'half'!!?? (AAAAaagh!!) A week weeding the garden!!!?? Six month watching LUFC!! Or....self flaggelation with a city flag's stick!!?? It's time to admit....you (er ..we) were...(that's MOST OF US by the way).....were.... WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! (I'm going for the self-flaggelation!!)[/p][/quote]Give us a big positive Jules and Lawnie and you will be forgiven...make it funny though! KnightMcCall

10:39am Wed 22 May 13

Cityman23 says...

"HAPPY VALLEY-(EX) SUC-CESS ALL AREAS"

'JOOLS & LAWNIE'

J &L re relaxing in their office -as usual-sipping on vodka martinis! But this time they've got a good reason for over-indulgence.

L: Yes, Jools it's been a fantastic season...but then I always KNEW it was going to be our year!!

J: Did.you indeed Lawnie...and when precisely did that amazing 'realization' dawn?!! Was it before or after..you were looking at that list of available out-of-work managers...last January?!!

L: (not listening) Yes..Jools...I always KNEW 'Parkie' was...the 'SPECIAL ONE'!!

J: I thought THAT was ..Mourinho!!

L; You know...we ..er.. I mean ..I..HAVE GOT to do something SPECIAL TONIGHT...to get myself noticed..get a byline/photo in the 'T&A' tomorrow. There's bound to be loads of pictures of celebrating fans, flags flying...players hanging over the top of the bus..etc

J: Well..it WAS THE PLAYERS/MANAGER who won it..Lawnie!!

L: Yes...but I feel I should do SOMETHING!! Now..let me see...what was I Stuart MCall did wen City were promoted..in '96?!!!

J: he'd had too much too drink..and then he stood on top of his car's bonnet..singing to the fans! But if YOU try that...they'll be writing about the untimely DEMISE of a certain co-chair of a recently successful Lge Two outfit!!

L: (Still not listening) That's right..and it got in the paper...all the fans thought he was 'just one of them'!! you know a regular' p***ed supporter!! So what could I do....I know..I'll go a it further....go a bit HIGHER...you know like Hillary & Tensing climbling up Everest...pushing the boundaries...getting to the summit...just like ou team...I'll get a ladder and climb up on to the top of....

J: Scafell Pike?!!

L: ......the club shop and ...

J: Er...I don't think that's a very good idea..Lawnie!

L: Oh ..don't be silly...Jools....I'l
l be okay...now ...(not listening again) all...I need is a ladder....and ...pass over that bottle of Martini Jools....and the Smirnoff...now where's my enormous scarf ...and flag?
I'M GOING ..UP!!!

J: Oh dear....

Jools reaches for the phone.

J:(whispering) Hello...yes...yes..i
t's me again..sorry to bother you AGAIN...but...can you give me ..the fire brigade!!
"HAPPY VALLEY-(EX) SUC-CESS ALL AREAS" 'JOOLS & LAWNIE' J &L re relaxing in their office -as usual-sipping on vodka martinis! But this time they've got a good reason for over-indulgence. L: Yes, Jools it's been a fantastic season...but then I always KNEW it was going to be our year!! J: Did.you indeed Lawnie...and when precisely did that amazing 'realization' dawn?!! Was it before or after..you were looking at that list of available out-of-work managers...last January?!! L: (not listening) Yes..Jools...I always KNEW 'Parkie' was...the 'SPECIAL ONE'!! J: I thought THAT was ..Mourinho!! L; You know...we ..er.. I mean ..I..HAVE GOT to do something SPECIAL TONIGHT...to get myself noticed..get a byline/photo in the 'T&A' tomorrow. There's bound to be loads of pictures of celebrating fans, flags flying...players hanging over the top of the bus..etc J: Well..it WAS THE PLAYERS/MANAGER who won it..Lawnie!! L: Yes...but I feel I should do SOMETHING!! Now..let me see...what was I Stuart MCall did wen City were promoted..in '96?!!! J: he'd had too much too drink..and then he stood on top of his car's bonnet..singing to the fans! But if YOU try that...they'll be writing about the untimely DEMISE of a certain co-chair of a recently successful Lge Two outfit!! L: (Still not listening) That's right..and it got in the paper...all the fans thought he was 'just one of them'!! you know a regular' p***ed supporter!! So what could I do....I know..I'll go a it further....go a bit HIGHER...you know like Hillary & Tensing climbling up Everest...pushing the boundaries...getting to the summit...just like ou team...I'll get a ladder and climb up on to the top of.... J: Scafell Pike?!! L: ......the club shop and ... J: Er...I don't think that's a very good idea..Lawnie! L: Oh ..don't be silly...Jools....I'l l be okay...now ...(not listening again) all...I need is a ladder....and ...pass over that bottle of Martini Jools....and the Smirnoff...now where's my enormous scarf ...and flag? I'M GOING ..UP!!! J: Oh dear.... Jools reaches for the phone. J:(whispering) Hello...yes...yes..i t's me again..sorry to bother you AGAIN...but...can you give me ..the fire brigade!! Cityman23

12:35pm Wed 22 May 13

Cityman23 says...

'Angry Of Allerton' says:

Actually 'Lawnie' it wasn't 1996 when Stu cavorted on the car bonnet-he NEVER played in 'that' team!!
'Angry Of Allerton' says: Actually 'Lawnie' it wasn't 1996 when Stu cavorted on the car bonnet-he NEVER played in 'that' team!! Cityman23

12:48pm Wed 22 May 13

KnightMcCall says...

Cityman23 wrote:
'Angry Of Allerton' says:

Actually 'Lawnie' it wasn't 1996 when Stu cavorted on the car bonnet-he NEVER played in 'that' team!!
That's probably all quite accurate...apart from the 1996 reference but then successful years all role into one after a while.

Lawn pretty much said "on the telly" that he didn't start to believe until the 87th minute though so maybe he is just (a wealthier) one of us!
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: 'Angry Of Allerton' says: Actually 'Lawnie' it wasn't 1996 when Stu cavorted on the car bonnet-he NEVER played in 'that' team!![/p][/quote]That's probably all quite accurate...apart from the 1996 reference but then successful years all role into one after a while. Lawn pretty much said "on the telly" that he didn't start to believe until the 87th minute though so maybe he is just (a wealthier) one of us! KnightMcCall

1:12pm Wed 22 May 13

Cityman23 says...

Yes, you're right 'A of A', but looking at that first Play Off side there are some similarities between the 'Class of 96' and the 'Class Of '13!

'A to Z' Of Similarities Between '96 and '13'!!

A) Both (City) teams lost in the first leg semi final to a team beginning with letter 'B.

B) Both teams played the home leg first, whilst losing.

C) Both teams won the second leg.

D) Both teams played the second leg away from home.

E) Both teams scored three goals in second leg.

F)Both teams wore a non-home strip in the second leg.

G) Both teams faced a team whose named began with letter 'N' in the final.

H) In the final both teams won a trophy.

I) In the final both teams promoted.

J) In both finals, One Scottish player was playing for City. (first eleven-Tommy Wright was on the bench) ie McLaughlin/Gould (okay Gould wasn't born in Scotland but he played for Celtic/Scotland later)

K) In both finals the 'Scottish' player in the first X1 was the goalkeeper.

L) In both finals City faced the East side of Wembley first.

M) In both finals the chairmen (Richmond in first) Lawn in second went 'a little bit crazy' at final whistle!!
(No surprise there!)

N) In both finals City wore black shorts.

O) In both finals they played 'Rocking All Over The World' by Status Quo in the stadium after all the celebrating!

All right I admit it-I'm clutching at straws now!!)

P) Both finals were played on fine dry days!

Q) Both finals were played at Wembley stadium.

R) At both finals, the managers wore suits!

S) In both finals City won by a greater than single goal avantage!!

T) In both finals central strikers scored goasl.

U) In both finals City faced the West side (own supporters) in second half.

V) In both finals, the City captain had fairish/ hair!

W) In both seasons City had been the bottom -placed team reaching the Play Offs.

X) In both seasons City had made a late 'push' to reach the Play Offs.

Y) In both finals City supporters occupied the West side of Wembley!

Z)And, last but not least..in both finals ...the EAST side was absolutel deserted...whilst the City team cavorted on the field with the trophy and their adoring fans..lapped it up!!

(Oh..and I've missed out both teams had a briliant black winger-Hamilton/Reid
!!
Yes, you're right 'A of A', but looking at that first Play Off side there are some similarities between the 'Class of 96' and the 'Class Of '13! 'A to Z' Of Similarities Between '96 and '13'!! A) Both (City) teams lost in the first leg semi final to a team beginning with letter 'B. B) Both teams played the home leg first, whilst losing. C) Both teams won the second leg. D) Both teams played the second leg away from home. E) Both teams scored three goals in second leg. F)Both teams wore a non-home strip in the second leg. G) Both teams faced a team whose named began with letter 'N' in the final. H) In the final both teams won a trophy. I) In the final both teams promoted. J) In both finals, One Scottish player was playing for City. (first eleven-Tommy Wright was on the bench) ie McLaughlin/Gould (okay Gould wasn't born in Scotland but he played for Celtic/Scotland later) K) In both finals the 'Scottish' player in the first X1 was the goalkeeper. L) In both finals City faced the East side of Wembley first. M) In both finals the chairmen (Richmond in first) Lawn in second went 'a little bit crazy' at final whistle!! (No surprise there!) N) In both finals City wore black shorts. O) In both finals they played 'Rocking All Over The World' by Status Quo in the stadium after all the celebrating! All right I admit it-I'm clutching at straws now!!) P) Both finals were played on fine dry days! Q) Both finals were played at Wembley stadium. R) At both finals, the managers wore suits! S) In both finals City won by a greater than single goal avantage!! T) In both finals central strikers scored goasl. U) In both finals City faced the West side (own supporters) in second half. V) In both finals, the City captain had fairish/ hair! W) In both seasons City had been the bottom -placed team reaching the Play Offs. X) In both seasons City had made a late 'push' to reach the Play Offs. Y) In both finals City supporters occupied the West side of Wembley! Z)And, last but not least..in both finals ...the EAST side was absolutel deserted...whilst the City team cavorted on the field with the trophy and their adoring fans..lapped it up!! (Oh..and I've missed out both teams had a briliant black winger-Hamilton/Reid !! Cityman23

1:44pm Wed 22 May 13

Michael Clayton says...

Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs.

It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there?

Looking at the out-of-contract players list:

Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion).

City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).
Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs. It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there? Looking at the out-of-contract players list: Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion). City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One). Michael Clayton

2:08pm Wed 22 May 13

KnightMcCall says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs.

It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there?

Looking at the out-of-contract players list:

Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion).

City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).
I've read somewhere that promotion triggered a clause in Reid's contract for another year. City should focus on securing McHugh, Davies and Doyle and ideally will get Thompson & Atkinson to stay too. Think Duke needs to move on and Jon Mac can fight it out with a new keeper for No 1 jersey.

After that, we can look forward to a few new arrivals. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clayton Donaldson in a City shirt next season.

It's odd how no-one seems to be on here clamouring for the return of Ross Hannah and Jack Compton though...
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs. It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there? Looking at the out-of-contract players list: Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion). City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).[/p][/quote]I've read somewhere that promotion triggered a clause in Reid's contract for another year. City should focus on securing McHugh, Davies and Doyle and ideally will get Thompson & Atkinson to stay too. Think Duke needs to move on and Jon Mac can fight it out with a new keeper for No 1 jersey. After that, we can look forward to a few new arrivals. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clayton Donaldson in a City shirt next season. It's odd how no-one seems to be on here clamouring for the return of Ross Hannah and Jack Compton though... KnightMcCall

2:40pm Wed 22 May 13

balbrigganfc says...

Predicting City to sign some new players, and let some go, and City to be in the playoffs at the end of the coming season.

Nobody makes predictions like me, nobody.

Come on you Bantams, CTID!
Predicting City to sign some new players, and let some go, and City to be in the playoffs at the end of the coming season. Nobody makes predictions like me, nobody. Come on you Bantams, CTID! balbrigganfc

2:47pm Wed 22 May 13

Michael Clayton says...

Cityman23 wrote:
Yes, you're right 'A of A', but looking at that first Play Off side there are some similarities between the 'Class of 96' and the 'Class Of '13! 'A to Z' Of Similarities Between '96 and '13'!! A) Both (City) teams lost in the first leg semi final to a team beginning with letter 'B. B) Both teams played the home leg first, whilst losing. C) Both teams won the second leg. D) Both teams played the second leg away from home. E) Both teams scored three goals in second leg. F)Both teams wore a non-home strip in the second leg. G) Both teams faced a team whose named began with letter 'N' in the final. H) In the final both teams won a trophy. I) In the final both teams promoted. J) In both finals, One Scottish player was playing for City. (first eleven-Tommy Wright was on the bench) ie McLaughlin/Gould (okay Gould wasn't born in Scotland but he played for Celtic/Scotland later) K) In both finals the 'Scottish' player in the first X1 was the goalkeeper. L) In both finals City faced the East side of Wembley first. M) In both finals the chairmen (Richmond in first) Lawn in second went 'a little bit crazy' at final whistle!! (No surprise there!) N) In both finals City wore black shorts. O) In both finals they played 'Rocking All Over The World' by Status Quo in the stadium after all the celebrating! All right I admit it-I'm clutching at straws now!!) P) Both finals were played on fine dry days! Q) Both finals were played at Wembley stadium. R) At both finals, the managers wore suits! S) In both finals City won by a greater than single goal avantage!! T) In both finals central strikers scored goasl. U) In both finals City faced the West side (own supporters) in second half. V) In both finals, the City captain had fairish/ hair! W) In both seasons City had been the bottom -placed team reaching the Play Offs. X) In both seasons City had made a late 'push' to reach the Play Offs. Y) In both finals City supporters occupied the West side of Wembley! Z)And, last but not least..in both finals ...the EAST side was absolutel deserted...whilst the City team cavorted on the field with the trophy and their adoring fans..lapped it up!! (Oh..and I've missed out both teams had a briliant black winger-Hamilton/Reid !!
Is it a quiet day on the news front?
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: Yes, you're right 'A of A', but looking at that first Play Off side there are some similarities between the 'Class of 96' and the 'Class Of '13! 'A to Z' Of Similarities Between '96 and '13'!! A) Both (City) teams lost in the first leg semi final to a team beginning with letter 'B. B) Both teams played the home leg first, whilst losing. C) Both teams won the second leg. D) Both teams played the second leg away from home. E) Both teams scored three goals in second leg. F)Both teams wore a non-home strip in the second leg. G) Both teams faced a team whose named began with letter 'N' in the final. H) In the final both teams won a trophy. I) In the final both teams promoted. J) In both finals, One Scottish player was playing for City. (first eleven-Tommy Wright was on the bench) ie McLaughlin/Gould (okay Gould wasn't born in Scotland but he played for Celtic/Scotland later) K) In both finals the 'Scottish' player in the first X1 was the goalkeeper. L) In both finals City faced the East side of Wembley first. M) In both finals the chairmen (Richmond in first) Lawn in second went 'a little bit crazy' at final whistle!! (No surprise there!) N) In both finals City wore black shorts. O) In both finals they played 'Rocking All Over The World' by Status Quo in the stadium after all the celebrating! All right I admit it-I'm clutching at straws now!!) P) Both finals were played on fine dry days! Q) Both finals were played at Wembley stadium. R) At both finals, the managers wore suits! S) In both finals City won by a greater than single goal avantage!! T) In both finals central strikers scored goasl. U) In both finals City faced the West side (own supporters) in second half. V) In both finals, the City captain had fairish/ hair! W) In both seasons City had been the bottom -placed team reaching the Play Offs. X) In both seasons City had made a late 'push' to reach the Play Offs. Y) In both finals City supporters occupied the West side of Wembley! Z)And, last but not least..in both finals ...the EAST side was absolutel deserted...whilst the City team cavorted on the field with the trophy and their adoring fans..lapped it up!! (Oh..and I've missed out both teams had a briliant black winger-Hamilton/Reid !![/p][/quote]Is it a quiet day on the news front? Michael Clayton

3:43pm Wed 22 May 13

pudseykid says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs.

It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there?

Looking at the out-of-contract players list:

Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion).

City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).
I've read somewhere that promotion triggered a clause in Reid's contract for another year. City should focus on securing McHugh, Davies and Doyle and ideally will get Thompson & Atkinson to stay too. Think Duke needs to move on and Jon Mac can fight it out with a new keeper for No 1 jersey.

After that, we can look forward to a few new arrivals. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clayton Donaldson in a City shirt next season.

It's odd how no-one seems to be on here clamouring for the return of Ross Hannah and Jack Compton though...
Question 1 - why is W Atkinson considered as suitable for the higher league, when he struggled with the last 1?...Q2 - exactly why are CITY turning up at CITY Hall tonite when City hall (councillors) havent supported them in any way shape or form in the last few years..theyve supported Odsal/bulls, but not us...The Lads do deserve this accolade, but to meet with people who arent interested in the success or failure of the club seems very wrong..Q3 - i assume M Duke is on his way from the comments, is that about right?
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs. It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there? Looking at the out-of-contract players list: Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion). City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).[/p][/quote]I've read somewhere that promotion triggered a clause in Reid's contract for another year. City should focus on securing McHugh, Davies and Doyle and ideally will get Thompson & Atkinson to stay too. Think Duke needs to move on and Jon Mac can fight it out with a new keeper for No 1 jersey. After that, we can look forward to a few new arrivals. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clayton Donaldson in a City shirt next season. It's odd how no-one seems to be on here clamouring for the return of Ross Hannah and Jack Compton though...[/p][/quote]Question 1 - why is W Atkinson considered as suitable for the higher league, when he struggled with the last 1?...Q2 - exactly why are CITY turning up at CITY Hall tonite when City hall (councillors) havent supported them in any way shape or form in the last few years..theyve supported Odsal/bulls, but not us...The Lads do deserve this accolade, but to meet with people who arent interested in the success or failure of the club seems very wrong..Q3 - i assume M Duke is on his way from the comments, is that about right? pudseykid

5:14pm Wed 22 May 13

KnightMcCall says...

pudseykid wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs.

It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there?

Looking at the out-of-contract players list:

Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion).

City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).
I've read somewhere that promotion triggered a clause in Reid's contract for another year. City should focus on securing McHugh, Davies and Doyle and ideally will get Thompson & Atkinson to stay too. Think Duke needs to move on and Jon Mac can fight it out with a new keeper for No 1 jersey.

After that, we can look forward to a few new arrivals. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clayton Donaldson in a City shirt next season.

It's odd how no-one seems to be on here clamouring for the return of Ross Hannah and Jack Compton though...
Question 1 - why is W Atkinson considered as suitable for the higher league, when he struggled with the last 1?...Q2 - exactly why are CITY turning up at CITY Hall tonite when City hall (councillors) havent supported them in any way shape or form in the last few years..theyve supported Odsal/bulls, but not us...The Lads do deserve this accolade, but to meet with people who arent interested in the success or failure of the club seems very wrong..Q3 - i assume M Duke is on his way from the comments, is that about right?
I don't think Messi ( I mean Atkinson) did struggle in League Two. I think he is a very talented lad who possibly lacks a touch of pace but if you want to see City passing the ball about then Atkinson is a great man to have in the squad (just my opinion of course).

I agree on Q2.
No idea about Q3 but i would be surprised if we offered Duke a new contract.
[quote][p][bold]pudseykid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs. It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there? Looking at the out-of-contract players list: Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion). City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).[/p][/quote]I've read somewhere that promotion triggered a clause in Reid's contract for another year. City should focus on securing McHugh, Davies and Doyle and ideally will get Thompson & Atkinson to stay too. Think Duke needs to move on and Jon Mac can fight it out with a new keeper for No 1 jersey. After that, we can look forward to a few new arrivals. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clayton Donaldson in a City shirt next season. It's odd how no-one seems to be on here clamouring for the return of Ross Hannah and Jack Compton though...[/p][/quote]Question 1 - why is W Atkinson considered as suitable for the higher league, when he struggled with the last 1?...Q2 - exactly why are CITY turning up at CITY Hall tonite when City hall (councillors) havent supported them in any way shape or form in the last few years..theyve supported Odsal/bulls, but not us...The Lads do deserve this accolade, but to meet with people who arent interested in the success or failure of the club seems very wrong..Q3 - i assume M Duke is on his way from the comments, is that about right?[/p][/quote]I don't think Messi ( I mean Atkinson) did struggle in League Two. I think he is a very talented lad who possibly lacks a touch of pace but if you want to see City passing the ball about then Atkinson is a great man to have in the squad (just my opinion of course). I agree on Q2. No idea about Q3 but i would be surprised if we offered Duke a new contract. KnightMcCall

5:58pm Wed 22 May 13

Michael Clayton says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
pudseykid wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote: Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs. It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there? Looking at the out-of-contract players list: Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion). City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).
I've read somewhere that promotion triggered a clause in Reid's contract for another year. City should focus on securing McHugh, Davies and Doyle and ideally will get Thompson & Atkinson to stay too. Think Duke needs to move on and Jon Mac can fight it out with a new keeper for No 1 jersey. After that, we can look forward to a few new arrivals. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clayton Donaldson in a City shirt next season. It's odd how no-one seems to be on here clamouring for the return of Ross Hannah and Jack Compton though...
Question 1 - why is W Atkinson considered as suitable for the higher league, when he struggled with the last 1?...Q2 - exactly why are CITY turning up at CITY Hall tonite when City hall (councillors) havent supported them in any way shape or form in the last few years..theyve supported Odsal/bulls, but not us...The Lads do deserve this accolade, but to meet with people who arent interested in the success or failure of the club seems very wrong..Q3 - i assume M Duke is on his way from the comments, is that about right?
I don't think Messi ( I mean Atkinson) did struggle in League Two. I think he is a very talented lad who possibly lacks a touch of pace but if you want to see City passing the ball about then Atkinson is a great man to have in the squad (just my opinion of course). I agree on Q2. No idea about Q3 but i would be surprised if we offered Duke a new contract.
I know that we are each entitled to an opinion but how anyone can think that Atkinson struggled is beyond me.

He came to the club at a difficult time and I take the view that it is a case of "give a dog a bad name".

Sometimes we have re-evaluate. OK, he is not going to beat anyone for pace, but he is neat and intelligent and just the sort of player to bring on when the ship needs a steadying hand.

I think that both Atkinson and Jones will be fringe players next season but they certainly have something to offer to the squad.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pudseykid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs. It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there? Looking at the out-of-contract players list: Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion). City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).[/p][/quote]I've read somewhere that promotion triggered a clause in Reid's contract for another year. City should focus on securing McHugh, Davies and Doyle and ideally will get Thompson & Atkinson to stay too. Think Duke needs to move on and Jon Mac can fight it out with a new keeper for No 1 jersey. After that, we can look forward to a few new arrivals. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clayton Donaldson in a City shirt next season. It's odd how no-one seems to be on here clamouring for the return of Ross Hannah and Jack Compton though...[/p][/quote]Question 1 - why is W Atkinson considered as suitable for the higher league, when he struggled with the last 1?...Q2 - exactly why are CITY turning up at CITY Hall tonite when City hall (councillors) havent supported them in any way shape or form in the last few years..theyve supported Odsal/bulls, but not us...The Lads do deserve this accolade, but to meet with people who arent interested in the success or failure of the club seems very wrong..Q3 - i assume M Duke is on his way from the comments, is that about right?[/p][/quote]I don't think Messi ( I mean Atkinson) did struggle in League Two. I think he is a very talented lad who possibly lacks a touch of pace but if you want to see City passing the ball about then Atkinson is a great man to have in the squad (just my opinion of course). I agree on Q2. No idea about Q3 but i would be surprised if we offered Duke a new contract.[/p][/quote]I know that we are each entitled to an opinion but how anyone can think that Atkinson struggled is beyond me. He came to the club at a difficult time and I take the view that it is a case of "give a dog a bad name". Sometimes we have re-evaluate. OK, he is not going to beat anyone for pace, but he is neat and intelligent and just the sort of player to bring on when the ship needs a steadying hand. I think that both Atkinson and Jones will be fringe players next season but they certainly have something to offer to the squad. Michael Clayton

6:10pm Wed 22 May 13

Stevie-C says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
pudseykid wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote: Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs. It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there? Looking at the out-of-contract players list: Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion). City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).
I've read somewhere that promotion triggered a clause in Reid's contract for another year. City should focus on securing McHugh, Davies and Doyle and ideally will get Thompson & Atkinson to stay too. Think Duke needs to move on and Jon Mac can fight it out with a new keeper for No 1 jersey. After that, we can look forward to a few new arrivals. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clayton Donaldson in a City shirt next season. It's odd how no-one seems to be on here clamouring for the return of Ross Hannah and Jack Compton though...
Question 1 - why is W Atkinson considered as suitable for the higher league, when he struggled with the last 1?...Q2 - exactly why are CITY turning up at CITY Hall tonite when City hall (councillors) havent supported them in any way shape or form in the last few years..theyve supported Odsal/bulls, but not us...The Lads do deserve this accolade, but to meet with people who arent interested in the success or failure of the club seems very wrong..Q3 - i assume M Duke is on his way from the comments, is that about right?
I don't think Messi ( I mean Atkinson) did struggle in League Two. I think he is a very talented lad who possibly lacks a touch of pace but if you want to see City passing the ball about then Atkinson is a great man to have in the squad (just my opinion of course). I agree on Q2. No idea about Q3 but i would be surprised if we offered Duke a new contract.
I know that we are each entitled to an opinion but how anyone can think that Atkinson struggled is beyond me.

He came to the club at a difficult time and I take the view that it is a case of "give a dog a bad name".

Sometimes we have re-evaluate. OK, he is not going to beat anyone for pace, but he is neat and intelligent and just the sort of player to bring on when the ship needs a steadying hand.

I think that both Atkinson and Jones will be fringe players next season but they certainly have something to offer to the squad.
I disagree. I truly believe Jones has another good season in him of bossing the midfield. I don't think the styles of play are too dissimilar between leagues 1 & 2
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pudseykid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs. It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there? Looking at the out-of-contract players list: Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion). City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).[/p][/quote]I've read somewhere that promotion triggered a clause in Reid's contract for another year. City should focus on securing McHugh, Davies and Doyle and ideally will get Thompson & Atkinson to stay too. Think Duke needs to move on and Jon Mac can fight it out with a new keeper for No 1 jersey. After that, we can look forward to a few new arrivals. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clayton Donaldson in a City shirt next season. It's odd how no-one seems to be on here clamouring for the return of Ross Hannah and Jack Compton though...[/p][/quote]Question 1 - why is W Atkinson considered as suitable for the higher league, when he struggled with the last 1?...Q2 - exactly why are CITY turning up at CITY Hall tonite when City hall (councillors) havent supported them in any way shape or form in the last few years..theyve supported Odsal/bulls, but not us...The Lads do deserve this accolade, but to meet with people who arent interested in the success or failure of the club seems very wrong..Q3 - i assume M Duke is on his way from the comments, is that about right?[/p][/quote]I don't think Messi ( I mean Atkinson) did struggle in League Two. I think he is a very talented lad who possibly lacks a touch of pace but if you want to see City passing the ball about then Atkinson is a great man to have in the squad (just my opinion of course). I agree on Q2. No idea about Q3 but i would be surprised if we offered Duke a new contract.[/p][/quote]I know that we are each entitled to an opinion but how anyone can think that Atkinson struggled is beyond me. He came to the club at a difficult time and I take the view that it is a case of "give a dog a bad name". Sometimes we have re-evaluate. OK, he is not going to beat anyone for pace, but he is neat and intelligent and just the sort of player to bring on when the ship needs a steadying hand. I think that both Atkinson and Jones will be fringe players next season but they certainly have something to offer to the squad.[/p][/quote]I disagree. I truly believe Jones has another good season in him of bossing the midfield. I don't think the styles of play are too dissimilar between leagues 1 & 2 Stevie-C

7:15pm Wed 22 May 13

COLATS says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs.

It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there?

Looking at the out-of-contract players list:

Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion).

City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).
I've read somewhere that promotion triggered a clause in Reid's contract for another year. City should focus on securing McHugh, Davies and Doyle and ideally will get Thompson & Atkinson to stay too. Think Duke needs to move on and Jon Mac can fight it out with a new keeper for No 1 jersey.

After that, we can look forward to a few new arrivals. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clayton Donaldson in a City shirt next season.

It's odd how no-one seems to be on here clamouring for the return of Ross Hannah and Jack Compton though...
Ha ha liked the last bit, I got slated for saying Ross wasn't good enough early season?
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs. It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there? Looking at the out-of-contract players list: Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion). City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).[/p][/quote]I've read somewhere that promotion triggered a clause in Reid's contract for another year. City should focus on securing McHugh, Davies and Doyle and ideally will get Thompson & Atkinson to stay too. Think Duke needs to move on and Jon Mac can fight it out with a new keeper for No 1 jersey. After that, we can look forward to a few new arrivals. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clayton Donaldson in a City shirt next season. It's odd how no-one seems to be on here clamouring for the return of Ross Hannah and Jack Compton though...[/p][/quote]Ha ha liked the last bit, I got slated for saying Ross wasn't good enough early season? COLATS

10:50pm Thu 23 May 13

Shadrach Dingle says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
pudseykid wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote: Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs. It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there? Looking at the out-of-contract players list: Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion). City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).
I've read somewhere that promotion triggered a clause in Reid's contract for another year. City should focus on securing McHugh, Davies and Doyle and ideally will get Thompson & Atkinson to stay too. Think Duke needs to move on and Jon Mac can fight it out with a new keeper for No 1 jersey. After that, we can look forward to a few new arrivals. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clayton Donaldson in a City shirt next season. It's odd how no-one seems to be on here clamouring for the return of Ross Hannah and Jack Compton though...
Question 1 - why is W Atkinson considered as suitable for the higher league, when he struggled with the last 1?...Q2 - exactly why are CITY turning up at CITY Hall tonite when City hall (councillors) havent supported them in any way shape or form in the last few years..theyve supported Odsal/bulls, but not us...The Lads do deserve this accolade, but to meet with people who arent interested in the success or failure of the club seems very wrong..Q3 - i assume M Duke is on his way from the comments, is that about right?
I don't think Messi ( I mean Atkinson) did struggle in League Two. I think he is a very talented lad who possibly lacks a touch of pace but if you want to see City passing the ball about then Atkinson is a great man to have in the squad (just my opinion of course). I agree on Q2. No idea about Q3 but i would be surprised if we offered Duke a new contract.
I know that we are each entitled to an opinion but how anyone can think that Atkinson struggled is beyond me.

He came to the club at a difficult time and I take the view that it is a case of "give a dog a bad name".

Sometimes we have re-evaluate. OK, he is not going to beat anyone for pace, but he is neat and intelligent and just the sort of player to bring on when the ship needs a steadying hand.

I think that both Atkinson and Jones will be fringe players next season but they certainly have something to offer to the squad.
Sorry Clayton but 'neat and intelligent' doesn't cut it for me, especially if it's used to describe someone playing out wide. A neat and tidy player is supposed to do the basics right and rarely gives the ball away which is something young Will isn't capable of doing on a regular basis. Add that to the fact he lacks pace, can't beat a man, can't tackle, is physically weak and is rarely if ever in a position to create or score a goal and you're not left with much. His introduction from the bench is not so much a 'steadying hand' as an immediate end to any attacking intent we may have had. Suggesting he'll be a fringe player and putting him on a par with Gary Jones is without doubt the biggest insult Jones will have received in his 35 years living on planet earth.

With regards to Jones, I believe he's one of our highest earners alongside Davies so to keep him and have him sat on the bench and let Davies, the best player we've had at VP for years leave the club because we can't afford to pay his wages would be pure folly. In fact Lawns comment in the last paragraph scares the poop out of me. Pinning your hopes on the return of Luke Oliver is akin to wanting Stevie Wonder to lead you out of a maze. 'Davo' is literally head and shoulders above Nelson, McArdle, McHugh and Oliver. Losing a player due to his ambition and the lure of a much better standard of football I can take. Losing him to save a few quid and replacing him with a vastly inferior player after earning a shed load of cash during a lucrative cup run and winning promotion would be an absolute travesty.
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pudseykid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs. It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there? Looking at the out-of-contract players list: Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion). City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).[/p][/quote]I've read somewhere that promotion triggered a clause in Reid's contract for another year. City should focus on securing McHugh, Davies and Doyle and ideally will get Thompson & Atkinson to stay too. Think Duke needs to move on and Jon Mac can fight it out with a new keeper for No 1 jersey. After that, we can look forward to a few new arrivals. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clayton Donaldson in a City shirt next season. It's odd how no-one seems to be on here clamouring for the return of Ross Hannah and Jack Compton though...[/p][/quote]Question 1 - why is W Atkinson considered as suitable for the higher league, when he struggled with the last 1?...Q2 - exactly why are CITY turning up at CITY Hall tonite when City hall (councillors) havent supported them in any way shape or form in the last few years..theyve supported Odsal/bulls, but not us...The Lads do deserve this accolade, but to meet with people who arent interested in the success or failure of the club seems very wrong..Q3 - i assume M Duke is on his way from the comments, is that about right?[/p][/quote]I don't think Messi ( I mean Atkinson) did struggle in League Two. I think he is a very talented lad who possibly lacks a touch of pace but if you want to see City passing the ball about then Atkinson is a great man to have in the squad (just my opinion of course). I agree on Q2. No idea about Q3 but i would be surprised if we offered Duke a new contract.[/p][/quote]I know that we are each entitled to an opinion but how anyone can think that Atkinson struggled is beyond me. He came to the club at a difficult time and I take the view that it is a case of "give a dog a bad name". Sometimes we have re-evaluate. OK, he is not going to beat anyone for pace, but he is neat and intelligent and just the sort of player to bring on when the ship needs a steadying hand. I think that both Atkinson and Jones will be fringe players next season but they certainly have something to offer to the squad.[/p][/quote]Sorry Clayton but 'neat and intelligent' doesn't cut it for me, especially if it's used to describe someone playing out wide. A neat and tidy player is supposed to do the basics right and rarely gives the ball away which is something young Will isn't capable of doing on a regular basis. Add that to the fact he lacks pace, can't beat a man, can't tackle, is physically weak and is rarely if ever in a position to create or score a goal and you're not left with much. His introduction from the bench is not so much a 'steadying hand' as an immediate end to any attacking intent we may have had. Suggesting he'll be a fringe player and putting him on a par with Gary Jones is without doubt the biggest insult Jones will have received in his 35 years living on planet earth. With regards to Jones, I believe he's one of our highest earners alongside Davies so to keep him and have him sat on the bench and let Davies, the best player we've had at VP for years leave the club because we can't afford to pay his wages would be pure folly. In fact Lawns comment in the last paragraph scares the poop out of me. Pinning your hopes on the return of Luke Oliver is akin to wanting Stevie Wonder to lead you out of a maze. 'Davo' is literally head and shoulders above Nelson, McArdle, McHugh and Oliver. Losing a player due to his ambition and the lure of a much better standard of football I can take. Losing him to save a few quid and replacing him with a vastly inferior player after earning a shed load of cash during a lucrative cup run and winning promotion would be an absolute travesty. Shadrach Dingle

10:41am Fri 24 May 13

Michael Clayton says...

Shadrach Dingle wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
pudseykid wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote: Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs. It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there? Looking at the out-of-contract players list: Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion). City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).
I've read somewhere that promotion triggered a clause in Reid's contract for another year. City should focus on securing McHugh, Davies and Doyle and ideally will get Thompson & Atkinson to stay too. Think Duke needs to move on and Jon Mac can fight it out with a new keeper for No 1 jersey. After that, we can look forward to a few new arrivals. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clayton Donaldson in a City shirt next season. It's odd how no-one seems to be on here clamouring for the return of Ross Hannah and Jack Compton though...
Question 1 - why is W Atkinson considered as suitable for the higher league, when he struggled with the last 1?...Q2 - exactly why are CITY turning up at CITY Hall tonite when City hall (councillors) havent supported them in any way shape or form in the last few years..theyve supported Odsal/bulls, but not us...The Lads do deserve this accolade, but to meet with people who arent interested in the success or failure of the club seems very wrong..Q3 - i assume M Duke is on his way from the comments, is that about right?
I don't think Messi ( I mean Atkinson) did struggle in League Two. I think he is a very talented lad who possibly lacks a touch of pace but if you want to see City passing the ball about then Atkinson is a great man to have in the squad (just my opinion of course). I agree on Q2. No idea about Q3 but i would be surprised if we offered Duke a new contract.
I know that we are each entitled to an opinion but how anyone can think that Atkinson struggled is beyond me. He came to the club at a difficult time and I take the view that it is a case of "give a dog a bad name". Sometimes we have re-evaluate. OK, he is not going to beat anyone for pace, but he is neat and intelligent and just the sort of player to bring on when the ship needs a steadying hand. I think that both Atkinson and Jones will be fringe players next season but they certainly have something to offer to the squad.
Sorry Clayton but 'neat and intelligent' doesn't cut it for me, especially if it's used to describe someone playing out wide. A neat and tidy player is supposed to do the basics right and rarely gives the ball away which is something young Will isn't capable of doing on a regular basis. Add that to the fact he lacks pace, can't beat a man, can't tackle, is physically weak and is rarely if ever in a position to create or score a goal and you're not left with much. His introduction from the bench is not so much a 'steadying hand' as an immediate end to any attacking intent we may have had. Suggesting he'll be a fringe player and putting him on a par with Gary Jones is without doubt the biggest insult Jones will have received in his 35 years living on planet earth. With regards to Jones, I believe he's one of our highest earners alongside Davies so to keep him and have him sat on the bench and let Davies, the best player we've had at VP for years leave the club because we can't afford to pay his wages would be pure folly. In fact Lawns comment in the last paragraph scares the poop out of me. Pinning your hopes on the return of Luke Oliver is akin to wanting Stevie Wonder to lead you out of a maze. 'Davo' is literally head and shoulders above Nelson, McArdle, McHugh and Oliver. Losing a player due to his ambition and the lure of a much better standard of football I can take. Losing him to save a few quid and replacing him with a vastly inferior player after earning a shed load of cash during a lucrative cup run and winning promotion would be an absolute travesty.
Just because someone is a 'fringe' player does not mean that they are any less valuable to the squad. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

It is about how you utilise the resources available and I am more than happy that Jones will be at the club next season.

It is an insult to Phil Parkinson's managerial ability to dismiss a player (Atkinson) who actually made more appearances than Jones.

Also, having read another of your posts, I see that you have been able to give the manager your seal of approval:

"Having thought long and hard about it I've decided PP's decision to sign on the dotted line is a good thing. I appreciate his commitment when there might have been better offers on the table. I believe he has learnt from his mistakes and he will play his best team on a more regular basis".

Would you like to expand upon the "mistakes" that you identified?
[quote][p][bold]Shadrach Dingle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pudseykid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: Having read the posts, the majority are concentrating on bringing in targets from League Two clubs. It would be churlish to dismiss every suggestion, but surely the first priority has to be to retain what is already there? Looking at the out-of-contract players list: Jon McLaughlin, Andrew Davies, Kyel Reid, Garry Thompson, Matt Duke, Will Atkinson, Carl McHugh, Nathan Doyle and Steve Williams (accept he will leave but not a bad player in my opinion). City would be hard pushed to replace like for like (even in League One).[/p][/quote]I've read somewhere that promotion triggered a clause in Reid's contract for another year. City should focus on securing McHugh, Davies and Doyle and ideally will get Thompson & Atkinson to stay too. Think Duke needs to move on and Jon Mac can fight it out with a new keeper for No 1 jersey. After that, we can look forward to a few new arrivals. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clayton Donaldson in a City shirt next season. It's odd how no-one seems to be on here clamouring for the return of Ross Hannah and Jack Compton though...[/p][/quote]Question 1 - why is W Atkinson considered as suitable for the higher league, when he struggled with the last 1?...Q2 - exactly why are CITY turning up at CITY Hall tonite when City hall (councillors) havent supported them in any way shape or form in the last few years..theyve supported Odsal/bulls, but not us...The Lads do deserve this accolade, but to meet with people who arent interested in the success or failure of the club seems very wrong..Q3 - i assume M Duke is on his way from the comments, is that about right?[/p][/quote]I don't think Messi ( I mean Atkinson) did struggle in League Two. I think he is a very talented lad who possibly lacks a touch of pace but if you want to see City passing the ball about then Atkinson is a great man to have in the squad (just my opinion of course). I agree on Q2. No idea about Q3 but i would be surprised if we offered Duke a new contract.[/p][/quote]I know that we are each entitled to an opinion but how anyone can think that Atkinson struggled is beyond me. He came to the club at a difficult time and I take the view that it is a case of "give a dog a bad name". Sometimes we have re-evaluate. OK, he is not going to beat anyone for pace, but he is neat and intelligent and just the sort of player to bring on when the ship needs a steadying hand. I think that both Atkinson and Jones will be fringe players next season but they certainly have something to offer to the squad.[/p][/quote]Sorry Clayton but 'neat and intelligent' doesn't cut it for me, especially if it's used to describe someone playing out wide. A neat and tidy player is supposed to do the basics right and rarely gives the ball away which is something young Will isn't capable of doing on a regular basis. Add that to the fact he lacks pace, can't beat a man, can't tackle, is physically weak and is rarely if ever in a position to create or score a goal and you're not left with much. His introduction from the bench is not so much a 'steadying hand' as an immediate end to any attacking intent we may have had. Suggesting he'll be a fringe player and putting him on a par with Gary Jones is without doubt the biggest insult Jones will have received in his 35 years living on planet earth. With regards to Jones, I believe he's one of our highest earners alongside Davies so to keep him and have him sat on the bench and let Davies, the best player we've had at VP for years leave the club because we can't afford to pay his wages would be pure folly. In fact Lawns comment in the last paragraph scares the poop out of me. Pinning your hopes on the return of Luke Oliver is akin to wanting Stevie Wonder to lead you out of a maze. 'Davo' is literally head and shoulders above Nelson, McArdle, McHugh and Oliver. Losing a player due to his ambition and the lure of a much better standard of football I can take. Losing him to save a few quid and replacing him with a vastly inferior player after earning a shed load of cash during a lucrative cup run and winning promotion would be an absolute travesty.[/p][/quote]Just because someone is a 'fringe' player does not mean that they are any less valuable to the squad. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. It is about how you utilise the resources available and I am more than happy that Jones will be at the club next season. It is an insult to Phil Parkinson's managerial ability to dismiss a player (Atkinson) who actually made more appearances than Jones. Also, having read another of your posts, I see that you have been able to give the manager your seal of approval: "Having thought long and hard about it I've decided PP's decision to sign on the dotted line is a good thing. I appreciate his commitment when there might have been better offers on the table. I believe he has learnt from his mistakes and he will play his best team on a more regular basis". Would you like to expand upon the "mistakes" that you identified? Michael Clayton

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