'Important we don't get too down' says Connell after Bradford City setback (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

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I was pleased for Connell--his 'Pens' were a delight to see. I just wish he could show more steel and determination, to win the ball, and score in the box. He is a proven goal scorer from the past. Now prove it again -in the future!.
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I am still concerned about the possible loss of Hannah. With Wells out injured. Plus any more 'Striker' injuries that can and may occur.The loss of confidence that is occurring --especially from the Strikers etc.--is becoming self evident. City will not have enough Fire Power, throughout the remaining very important part of this Season.. Unless more Strikers are brought in, in the January transfer window?.
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I notice that " Sean of Richmond " is commenting again --now City have lost a match!!!. What a very strange, so termed Supporter,- he appears to be, when he is in his depressive 'Capitals Moods!!!'
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Freddy wrote:
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I was pleased for Connell--his 'Pens' were a delight to see. I just wish he could show more steel and determination, to win the ball, and score in the box. He is a proven goal scorer from the past. Now prove it again -in the future!.
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I am still concerned about the possible loss of Hannah. With Wells out injured. Plus any more 'Striker' injuries that can and may occur.The loss of confidence that is occurring --especially from the Strikers etc.--is becoming self evident. City will not have enough Fire Power, throughout the remaining very important part of this Season.. Unless more Strikers are brought in, in the January transfer window?.
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I notice that " Sean of Richmond " is commenting again --now City have lost a match!!!. What a very strange, so termed Supporter,- he appears to be, when he is in his depressive 'Capitals Moods!!!'
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You are letting S of R get under your skin mate. Let him post and just ignore him and he will eventually go away. He enjoys winding everyone up and knows that most of you lads will bite.

Shaun of RICHMOND....!!!!.. does NOT support Bradford City..........He very kindly donates money to the club. I.....personally THANK Shaun for giving money to CITY. It is very KIND of him!!!!!!!!!!!!!....
.On behalf of BCAFC I offer gratitude to shaun for handing over his hard earned money!!!!!....THANK YOU shaun.

Freddy wrote:
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I was pleased for Connell--his 'Pens' were a delight to see. I just wish he could show more steel and determination, to win the ball, and score in the box. He is a proven goal scorer from the past. Now prove it again -in the future!.
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I am still concerned about the possible loss of Hannah. With Wells out injured. Plus any more 'Striker' injuries that can and may occur.The loss of confidence that is occurring --especially from the Strikers etc.--is becoming self evident. City will not have enough Fire Power, throughout the remaining very important part of this Season.. Unless more Strikers are brought in, in the January transfer window?.
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I notice that " Sean of Richmond " is commenting again --now City have lost a match!!!. What a very strange, so termed Supporter,- he appears to be, when he is in his depressive 'Capitals Moods!!!'
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what's the problem with wells Freddy? how long is he out?

With Nahki Wells out ill, Ross Hannah came on for his first City appearance in over nine months. But he still looks to be heading out of Valley Parade, with Grimsby leading the race

so why did he no start, why if he did not start did you leave him on the bench for 80 monutes:4-2 down: what was there to lose by bringing him on for 45 minutes

Not a bad day at the office, Rochdale were magnificent, all of Cities games now will be like cup matches, City will bounce back from this blip, but as mentioned by others, you only have to let your guard down a second in this division, and other teams will punish you.
Come on you Bantams, ctid

HANNAH ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR LEAGUE FOOTBALL. PLEASE SHUT UP ABOUT HIM. HE IS SLOW AND DOES NOT HAVE THE SPEED OF THOUGHT REQUIRED TO PLAY THE NIPPY STRIKER.

Wells isn't out injured, he has had the same bug as much of the population, this leaves you tired and weak but he should be back for Morecambe, if not Alan Connell is a more than able deputy as is Zavon Hines and both are far better to play the second striker than Ross H is.

The other clue in the above that Jimmy H will remain as number one on the team sheet is the threat(behind) that Nahki poses, he poses no, or little threat if his lanky strike partner is not on the pitch and the majority of his goals have come from Hanson's involvement, maybe not in a direct manner by laying it on for him but by making the oppos jobs harder and therefore Nahki's easier.

I think that we will look back and see this game as pivotal to our season. It doesn't hurt to be reminded that nothing is a 'gimme' in this league and i think a timely kick up the backside will really help the squad realise that we cannot take anything for granted. Obviously vital that we get back to winning ways tomorrow, but the good thing is the players will feel they can put the 'off day' behind them and return to winning ways quickly. Not the end of the world by a long way and I am confident we can get a result tomorrow.

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
HANNAH ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR LEAGUE FOOTBALL. PLEASE SHUT UP ABOUT HIM. HE IS SLOW AND DOES NOT HAVE THE SPEED OF THOUGHT REQUIRED TO PLAY THE NIPPY STRIKER.

Wells isn't out injured, he has had the same bug as much of the population, this leaves you tired and weak but he should be back for Morecambe, if not Alan Connell is a more than able deputy as is Zavon Hines and both are far better to play the second striker than Ross H is.

The other clue in the above that Jimmy H will remain as number one on the team sheet is the threat(behind) that Nahki poses, he poses no, or little threat if his lanky strike partner is not on the pitch and the majority of his goals have come from Hanson's involvement, maybe not in a direct manner by laying it on for him but by making the oppos jobs harder and therefore Nahki's easier.

happy new year prisoner. PS, any chance you could change the record for 2013? it getting a bit tired.

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
HANNAH ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR LEAGUE FOOTBALL. PLEASE SHUT UP ABOUT HIM. HE IS SLOW AND DOES NOT HAVE THE SPEED OF THOUGHT REQUIRED TO PLAY THE NIPPY STRIKER. Wells isn't out injured, he has had the same bug as much of the population, this leaves you tired and weak but he should be back for Morecambe, if not Alan Connell is a more than able deputy as is Zavon Hines and both are far better to play the second striker than Ross H is. The other clue in the above that Jimmy H will remain as number one on the team sheet is the threat(behind) that Nahki poses, he poses no, or little threat if his lanky strike partner is not on the pitch and the majority of his goals have come from Hanson's involvement, maybe not in a direct manner by laying it on for him but by making the oppos jobs harder and therefore Nahki's easier.

Hannah may not be good enough for City - i accept that - however to say he is not good enough for leaque football, that he is mentally and physically slow for the nippy striker role amazes me.
I hope he can improve on these areas, then his goal per game would be staggering abeit in the conference.
I can only guess that he does not defend enough in his own box - too busy scoring at the other end and therefore is unfortunately not PP's type of player.

I certainly wouldn't rule out Hannah as being capable of scoring plenty of goals in league 2. He has been able to produce the goods only one league below. However, how we could justify playing Hannah when we were doing so well in the league is a tough one to answer. It's just one of those of situations where the manager wants a certain type of player and Ross is not PP's type it appears. Anyway, we conceded 4 goals against Rochdale and I'm not sure how good a defender or goalkeeper Ross is?

340stopper wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote: HANNAH ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR LEAGUE FOOTBALL. PLEASE SHUT UP ABOUT HIM. HE IS SLOW AND DOES NOT HAVE THE SPEED OF THOUGHT REQUIRED TO PLAY THE NIPPY STRIKER. Wells isn't out injured, he has had the same bug as much of the population, this leaves you tired and weak but he should be back for Morecambe, if not Alan Connell is a more than able deputy as is Zavon Hines and both are far better to play the second striker than Ross H is. The other clue in the above that Jimmy H will remain as number one on the team sheet is the threat(behind) that Nahki poses, he poses no, or little threat if his lanky strike partner is not on the pitch and the majority of his goals have come from Hanson's involvement, maybe not in a direct manner by laying it on for him but by making the oppos jobs harder and therefore Nahki's easier.

Hannah may not be good enough for City - i accept that - however to say he is not good enough for leaque football, that he is mentally and physically slow for the nippy striker role amazes me. I hope he can improve on these areas, then his goal per game would be staggering abeit in the conference. I can only guess that he does not defend enough in his own box - too busy scoring at the other end and therefore is unfortunately not PP's type of player.

Agree with both yourself and Victor Clayton with regards Ross Hannah,and as Victor Clayton says PCBA is getting a little tiresome with his constant critism of Ross Hannah..!! what was Phil Parkinsons point in bringing him on with 10 minutes to play when we were 2-4 down ??.

Will you all stop debating about Hannah as if the poor lad was the answer to the upfront problem we have, the serious question remains thus. Hanson, what we want him to do is different to him being told by pp. I want to see a big cf. staying upfield at all times so no running around like a blue **** fly for defending corners,free kicks,throw ins etc. BUT!! if the coach wishes big Jim to do so then it is not rocket science to have a like for like player on the bench. so just leave a fella or indeed two up front at all times and who knows we may create problems. Again i will state that Hanson does well but he is being wrongly used in my opinion.

balbrigganfc wrote:
Not a bad day at the office, Rochdale were magnificent, all of Cities games now will be like cup matches, City will bounce back from this blip, but as mentioned by others, you only have to let your guard down a second in this division, and other teams will punish you. Come on you Bantams, ctid

You mean you didn't predict this one...! Oh, that's right, your predictions only occur AFTER the result, right?

PS ... moderator tell me in english when a three letter word for donkey becomes a obscene noun. you s*******8 's (oxford ) ciao !

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
HANNAH ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR LEAGUE FOOTBALL. PLEASE SHUT UP ABOUT HIM. HE IS SLOW AND DOES NOT HAVE THE SPEED OF THOUGHT REQUIRED TO PLAY THE NIPPY STRIKER. Wells isn't out injured, he has had the same bug as much of the population, this leaves you tired and weak but he should be back for Morecambe, if not Alan Connell is a more than able deputy as is Zavon Hines and both are far better to play the second striker than Ross H is. The other clue in the above that Jimmy H will remain as number one on the team sheet is the threat(behind) that Nahki poses, he poses no, or little threat if his lanky strike partner is not on the pitch and the majority of his goals have come from Hanson's involvement, maybe not in a direct manner by laying it on for him but by making the oppos jobs harder and therefore Nahki's easier.

Give it a rest fella, your constant bemoaning of a player YOU haven't seen play much, is getting boring.

You have seen Hines play the striker role a couple or more times and have already made a statement he is better than Hannah. How, where, did you get that from? Was it in your Christmas Cracker, because it is just as funny...!

The reality is that PP never wanted Hannah (which makes the extension of his contract last Summer even more stupid), despite his comments to the press. In pre-season, Hannah did EVERYTHING and more asked of him, yet PP still went out and got Connell and thus shoving Hannah out even more. He even had Baker on the bench before him, earlier in the season. he eventually opted to let Hannah go out on loan.

Hannah has scored goals just 1 league below where we find ourselves. He is a poacher and is not a like-for-like with either Hanson or Wells. However, he deserved a chance to compete with Connell for the 3rd/4th striker roles, but never got the chance.

No you can tell me that a player, with very little league experience and has shown NOTHING in the striker role for us, is a better option. Are you just determined to prove PP doesn't make mistakes? If so, just ask yourself how another of his cast-offs, Dave Syers, is performing these days....!

Waynus1971 wrote:

balbrigganfc wrote:
Not a bad day at the office, Rochdale were magnificent, all of Cities games now will be like cup matches, City will bounce back from this blip, but as mentioned by others, you only have to let your guard down a second in this division, and other teams will punish you. Come on you Bantams, ctid

You mean you didn't predict this one...! Oh, that's right, your predictions only occur AFTER the result, right?

Hi Waynus, as previously stated, I make predictions from the past, present and future.

Nobody makes predictions like me nobody!

Come on you Bantams, ctid

A prediction for Waynus:

Predicting City to come away with a positive result against Morecambe, nobody makes predictions like me, nobody.

Waynus1971 wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
HANNAH ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR LEAGUE FOOTBALL. PLEASE SHUT UP ABOUT HIM. HE IS SLOW AND DOES NOT HAVE THE SPEED OF THOUGHT REQUIRED TO PLAY THE NIPPY STRIKER. Wells isn't out injured, he has had the same bug as much of the population, this leaves you tired and weak but he should be back for Morecambe, if not Alan Connell is a more than able deputy as is Zavon Hines and both are far better to play the second striker than Ross H is. The other clue in the above that Jimmy H will remain as number one on the team sheet is the threat(behind) that Nahki poses, he poses no, or little threat if his lanky strike partner is not on the pitch and the majority of his goals have come from Hanson's involvement, maybe not in a direct manner by laying it on for him but by making the oppos jobs harder and therefore Nahki's easier.

Give it a rest fella, your constant bemoaning of a player YOU haven't seen play much, is getting boring.

You have seen Hines play the striker role a couple or more times and have already made a statement he is better than Hannah. How, where, did you get that from? Was it in your Christmas Cracker, because it is just as funny...!

The reality is that PP never wanted Hannah (which makes the extension of his contract last Summer even more stupid), despite his comments to the press. In pre-season, Hannah did EVERYTHING and more asked of him, yet PP still went out and got Connell and thus shoving Hannah out even more. He even had Baker on the bench before him, earlier in the season. he eventually opted to let Hannah go out on loan.

Hannah has scored goals just 1 league below where we find ourselves. He is a poacher and is not a like-for-like with either Hanson or Wells. However, he deserved a chance to compete with Connell for the 3rd/4th striker roles, but never got the chance.

No you can tell me that a player, with very little league experience and has shown NOTHING in the striker role for us, is a better option. Are you just determined to prove PP doesn't make mistakes? If so, just ask yourself how another of his cast-offs, Dave Syers, is performing these days....!

Hang on a minute; it isn't PCBA who's getting boring about Hannah, it's Tyker, Nowt Fresh and a couple of others who cant stop bigging him up. Hannah looks too slow and too weak to compete in League Football and the nature of PCBA's post suggests that he's sick of reading the same twaddle about Hannah not having a fair chance and some how being the lost saviour of the club. In my opinion it makes total sense to me that he can't get near the team.

The main point is that the man that people would have had him replace (Connell) scored five times in December so how exactly does Hannah deserve to play instead?

Hannah was definitely the fourth choice so PP did what was best for the club; he got Grimsby to play him and to pay his wages. He never picked Baker over a Fit and available Hannah before the loan either.

Not sure what Dave Syers has to do with anything. He got a better deal at a higher-placed club; it wasn't PP who decided that Syers was leaving. He did replace him with Jones & Doyle; are you suggesting that Syers would keep either of them out of the team?

And before you suggest it; no, I don't think PP is infallible but how anyone cannot see that Hannah doesn't belong at VP based on his ability is beyond me.

nowt fresh wrote:

340stopper wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote: HANNAH ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR LEAGUE FOOTBALL. PLEASE SHUT UP ABOUT HIM. HE IS SLOW AND DOES NOT HAVE THE SPEED OF THOUGHT REQUIRED TO PLAY THE NIPPY STRIKER. Wells isn't out injured, he has had the same bug as much of the population, this leaves you tired and weak but he should be back for Morecambe, if not Alan Connell is a more than able deputy as is Zavon Hines and both are far better to play the second striker than Ross H is. The other clue in the above that Jimmy H will remain as number one on the team sheet is the threat(behind) that Nahki poses, he poses no, or little threat if his lanky strike partner is not on the pitch and the majority of his goals have come from Hanson's involvement, maybe not in a direct manner by laying it on for him but by making the oppos jobs harder and therefore Nahki's easier.

Hannah may not be good enough for City - i accept that - however to say he is not good enough for leaque football, that he is mentally and physically slow for the nippy striker role amazes me. I hope he can improve on these areas, then his goal per game would be staggering abeit in the conference. I can only guess that he does not defend enough in his own box - too busy scoring at the other end and therefore is unfortunately not PP's type of player.

Agree with both yourself and Victor Clayton with regards Ross Hannah,and as Victor Clayton says PCBA is getting a little tiresome with his constant critism of Ross Hannah..!! what was Phil Parkinsons point in bringing him on with 10 minutes to play when we were 2-4 down ??.

Hannah got 20 mins on the pitch and the point was to have one last go. If he had gone gung-ho at half-time then we could have got an absolute pasting...what would you have posted then? He should have kept it tight until the last 20 mins...

Hannah is not the answer. PCBA didn't criticise Hannah either; he stated that he doesn't think he is good enough. I think he has a point (although that is not; as some would have it, a fact it is just an opinion).

balbrigganfc wrote:
A prediction for Waynus:

Predicting City to come away with a positive result against Morecambe, nobody makes predictions like me, nobody.

Well Well Well Tell us the Score at Morecambe Happy new year to you

In hindsight...(isn't that a great thing), i'd have played Reid up top with Hanson against Rochdale with the usual midfield of Atkinson, Thompson, Jones and Doyle across the middle keeping the game tight...i believe not over attacking Rochdale was key to picking three points up...basically waiting for their poor defence to crack....i'm quite certain that if Parky had this game all over his tactics would be something like the above...anyway we go again at Morecambe...good luck to all who travel over...i know this will be a cracking atmosphere created by our superb fans...and i think BCFC have a great chance of coming back home with three points.

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I've done this on an earlier thread but who cares....Just like to wish all the regulars on this site a Happy and peaceful New Year with hopefully us BCFC fans all celebrating a BCFC promotion at the end of April!!!!!

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We shout with pride...we'll never hide...Claret and Amber.

I don't often comment but after saturdays 'performance' a few questions - why does PP insist on playing an ill Doyle when RR and RJ are fit and on the bench?, why are we retaining poor loanees like Naylor (glad has gone), if either goalkeeper is any good why is there not a No1?. To secure promotion we need a good quality goalkeeper in January together with another decent striker to challenge Hanson and please, please a return to fitness for HNY Everyone CTID

Well I cannot predict the exact score for a number of reasons, I don;t want to spoil it for the fans, or encourage gambling, what I will say is that it will be a very positive result.

Happy New Year

A sign of a good team is how they respond to setbacks; let's roll up our sleeves and come away with the 3 points today.

A sign of a good team is how they respond to setbacks; let's roll up our sleeves and come away with the 3 points today.

KnightMcCall wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
HANNAH ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR LEAGUE FOOTBALL. PLEASE SHUT UP ABOUT HIM. HE IS SLOW AND DOES NOT HAVE THE SPEED OF THOUGHT REQUIRED TO PLAY THE NIPPY STRIKER. Wells isn't out injured, he has had the same bug as much of the population, this leaves you tired and weak but he should be back for Morecambe, if not Alan Connell is a more than able deputy as is Zavon Hines and both are far better to play the second striker than Ross H is. The other clue in the above that Jimmy H will remain as number one on the team sheet is the threat(behind) that Nahki poses, he poses no, or little threat if his lanky strike partner is not on the pitch and the majority of his goals have come from Hanson's involvement, maybe not in a direct manner by laying it on for him but by making the oppos jobs harder and therefore Nahki's easier.

Give it a rest fella, your constant bemoaning of a player YOU haven't seen play much, is getting boring.

You have seen Hines play the striker role a couple or more times and have already made a statement he is better than Hannah. How, where, did you get that from? Was it in your Christmas Cracker, because it is just as funny...!

The reality is that PP never wanted Hannah (which makes the extension of his contract last Summer even more stupid), despite his comments to the press. In pre-season, Hannah did EVERYTHING and more asked of him, yet PP still went out and got Connell and thus shoving Hannah out even more. He even had Baker on the bench before him, earlier in the season. he eventually opted to let Hannah go out on loan.

Hannah has scored goals just 1 league below where we find ourselves. He is a poacher and is not a like-for-like with either Hanson or Wells. However, he deserved a chance to compete with Connell for the 3rd/4th striker roles, but never got the chance.

No you can tell me that a player, with very little league experience and has shown NOTHING in the striker role for us, is a better option. Are you just determined to prove PP doesn't make mistakes? If so, just ask yourself how another of his cast-offs, Dave Syers, is performing these days....!

Hang on a minute; it isn't PCBA who's getting boring about Hannah, it's Tyker, Nowt Fresh and a couple of others who cant stop bigging him up. Hannah looks too slow and too weak to compete in League Football and the nature of PCBA's post suggests that he's sick of reading the same twaddle about Hannah not having a fair chance and some how being the lost saviour of the club. In my opinion it makes total sense to me that he can't get near the team.

The main point is that the man that people would have had him replace (Connell) scored five times in December so how exactly does Hannah deserve to play instead?

Hannah was definitely the fourth choice so PP did what was best for the club; he got Grimsby to play him and to pay his wages. He never picked Baker over a Fit and available Hannah before the loan either.

Not sure what Dave Syers has to do with anything. He got a better deal at a higher-placed club; it wasn't PP who decided that Syers was leaving. He did replace him with Jones & Doyle; are you suggesting that Syers would keep either of them out of the team?

And before you suggest it; no, I don't think PP is infallible but how anyone cannot see that Hannah doesn't belong at VP based on his ability is beyond me.

Before Dave Syers started looking elsewhere, is was as obvious as the nose on your face that he wasn't going to get a fair run under PP. Syers isn't PPs kind of player, as has been proven by his replacement(s). The fact is PP made a mistake with Syers and COULD be about to make the same mistake again with Hannah.

The reality is, Hannah hasn't been given enough of a chance to be able to say whether he is good enough or not. Connell has a knack of coming off the bench and grabbing a goal, but didn't Hannah have a similar record last season? Look how he has done since, albeit at GTFC.

The reality is we won't know if Hannah is good enough to step up because we never gave him a run. To claim he is worse than Connell, Thommo or Hines is just laughable because what exactly is being compared?

Waynus1971 wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
HANNAH ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR LEAGUE FOOTBALL. PLEASE SHUT UP ABOUT HIM. HE IS SLOW AND DOES NOT HAVE THE SPEED OF THOUGHT REQUIRED TO PLAY THE NIPPY STRIKER. Wells isn't out injured, he has had the same bug as much of the population, this leaves you tired and weak but he should be back for Morecambe, if not Alan Connell is a more than able deputy as is Zavon Hines and both are far better to play the second striker than Ross H is. The other clue in the above that Jimmy H will remain as number one on the team sheet is the threat(behind) that Nahki poses, he poses no, or little threat if his lanky strike partner is not on the pitch and the majority of his goals have come from Hanson's involvement, maybe not in a direct manner by laying it on for him but by making the oppos jobs harder and therefore Nahki's easier.

Give it a rest fella, your constant bemoaning of a player YOU haven't seen play much, is getting boring.

You have seen Hines play the striker role a couple or more times and have already made a statement he is better than Hannah. How, where, did you get that from? Was it in your Christmas Cracker, because it is just as funny...!

The reality is that PP never wanted Hannah (which makes the extension of his contract last Summer even more stupid), despite his comments to the press. In pre-season, Hannah did EVERYTHING and more asked of him, yet PP still went out and got Connell and thus shoving Hannah out even more. He even had Baker on the bench before him, earlier in the season. he eventually opted to let Hannah go out on loan.

Hannah has scored goals just 1 league below where we find ourselves. He is a poacher and is not a like-for-like with either Hanson or Wells. However, he deserved a chance to compete with Connell for the 3rd/4th striker roles, but never got the chance.

No you can tell me that a player, with very little league experience and has shown NOTHING in the striker role for us, is a better option. Are you just determined to prove PP doesn't make mistakes? If so, just ask yourself how another of his cast-offs, Dave Syers, is performing these days....!

Hang on a minute; it isn't PCBA who's getting boring about Hannah, it's Tyker, Nowt Fresh and a couple of others who cant stop bigging him up. Hannah looks too slow and too weak to compete in League Football and the nature of PCBA's post suggests that he's sick of reading the same twaddle about Hannah not having a fair chance and some how being the lost saviour of the club. In my opinion it makes total sense to me that he can't get near the team.

The main point is that the man that people would have had him replace (Connell) scored five times in December so how exactly does Hannah deserve to play instead?

Hannah was definitely the fourth choice so PP did what was best for the club; he got Grimsby to play him and to pay his wages. He never picked Baker over a Fit and available Hannah before the loan either.

Not sure what Dave Syers has to do with anything. He got a better deal at a higher-placed club; it wasn't PP who decided that Syers was leaving. He did replace him with Jones & Doyle; are you suggesting that Syers would keep either of them out of the team?

And before you suggest it; no, I don't think PP is infallible but how anyone cannot see that Hannah doesn't belong at VP based on his ability is beyond me.

Before Dave Syers started looking elsewhere, is was as obvious as the nose on your face that he wasn't going to get a fair run under PP. Syers isn't PPs kind of player, as has been proven by his replacement(s). The fact is PP made a mistake with Syers and COULD be about to make the same mistake again with Hannah.

The reality is, Hannah hasn't been given enough of a chance to be able to say whether he is good enough or not. Connell has a knack of coming off the bench and grabbing a goal, but didn't Hannah have a similar record last season? Look how he has done since, albeit at GTFC.

The reality is we won't know if Hannah is good enough to step up because we never gave him a run. To claim he is worse than Connell, Thommo or Hines is just laughable because what exactly is being compared?

I agree with your comments, waynus.

PP shows amazing patience with some players and none with others. Atkinson finally came good after countless failed chances last season. This season Garry Thompson has appeared disinterested to me in a number of appearances, but continues to be given further opportunities.

Hannah has never given a bad performance on the odd occasion he's appeared but has never enjoyed the chances afforded to others.

I know Ritchie Jones got a game today,but I get the feeling he falls into the Syers/Hannah category and wouldn't be surprised to see him go this month.

""The reality is, Hannah hasn't been given enough of a chance to be able to say whether he is good enough or not. Connell has a knack of coming off the bench and grabbing a goal, but didn't Hannah have a similar record last season? Look how he has done since, albeit at GTFC."""

PP has seen Hannah for the best part of two seasons, and as waynus pointed out, he did everything asked of him in pre-season but was still loaned out. It is obvious for whatever reason he is not PPs type of player, from what I have seen of him he seems to lack a bit of a 'spark' when playing for us, seems quite flat footed and not up to speed when needing to read the game.

As regards coming off the bench and scoring, I think it was twice, Oxford and Morecambe away, I may be wrong.