Big boost for Westfield site as top stores sign up

Westfield directors Duncan Bower (left) and Neil Maclure over looking the Bradford site Westfield directors Duncan Bower (left) and Neil Maclure over looking the Bradford site

Marks & Spencer has signed up as the final 'anchor tenant' in Westfield 's Broadway shopping development – a move described as a "significant milestone" for the long-awaited scheme.

The Australian developer, which is still yet to give a date for when work will begin on the £275 million scheme, will lease a 63,000 sq ft anchor store to M&S and has also confirmed retailer Next as a tenant.

Agreements have now been reached for more than a third of retail space available at the site, with Next due to occupy a 32,000 sq ft store and Debenhams already signed as an anchor tenant.

The M&S deal completes Westfield ’s anchor store negotiations for the scheme, for which planning permission was granted last year for 550,000 sq ft of retail and catering outlets, more than 70 shops and restaurants, 1,300 car park spaces and new public areas.

Duncan Bower, Westfield director of development said: “Since gaining the planning consent from Bradford Council, Westfield has been working closely with Marks & Spencer over many months to confirm store details and finalise the agreement. We are delighted that Marks & Spencer and Next share our vision to deliver a highly desirable retailer proposition for the people of Bradford.

“We are confident that the successful signing of two strong anchor tenants, Marks & Spencer and Debenhams, along with leading retailer Next, will be a catalyst to attracting further retailers to those already under negotiation.”

Clem Constantine, head of property at M&S, said: “We are pleased to officially sign up to the Broadway development. Marks & Spencer is a key anchor store for Westfield’s shopping centres in the UK and we are confident that Westfield will deliver another outstanding shopping centre for Bradford.”

The new Next store will be the second in Bradford and the largest in the city.

Andrew Varley, the company’s head of property, said: “The Next store in the Broadway development will be our second but much larger store in Bradford which demonstrates the confidence we have in the city and the scheme.

“We know that Westfield develops high quality shopping centres and we are proud to announce our commitment to the scheme and to Bradford. ”

Westfield is continuing negotiations to secure the remaining pre-lets required before construction work can recommence on the development but would not reveal how many agreements would need to be reached.

Leader of Bradford Council Councillor David Green said: “This is a significant milestone for the project proving that Westfield, during these tough economic times, has remained committed to Bradford and has continued to progress the scheme and work with retailers in the background.

“The commitment Marks & Spencer, Next and Debenhams have made to the scheme demonstrates their confidence in Bradford and Westfield to deliver. We welcome other retailers to take their lead and come to Bradford. There is huge demand and desire for great shopping in Bradford, which I am confident will provide retailers with a great trading opportunity.”

Stephen Wright, president of Bradford Chamber of Commerce, also welcomed the announcement.

He said: “It shows that major retailers do have the confidence to invest here and that Westfield remains committed to the scheme. We think that this will now act as an incentive for other retailers to come forward and sign up to the scheme. I hope that further pre-let announcements will be secured shortly and that a date for construction will be given soon.”

Mr Bower added: “Westfield shares the communities’ common goal to get this development started as soon as possible. Westfield is committed to Bradford and is working closely with the Council and all interested stakeholders to market Bradford and our Broadway scheme as a significant retail opportunity and attractive new destination.

“Westfield is in serious discussions with many well known retailers who have expressed strong demand in the centre and further announcements will be made as soon as deals have been exchanged.”

Comments(67)

angry bradfordian says...
7:30am Thu 19 Jul 12

This seems to be about the 3rd time that M&S have announced they are signing up to a store.

With all this celebration about the confidence shown in Bradford, could one of our leaders explain what's going to happen to the current M&S and Next stores in the city?

thatsnotmyname says...
7:43am Thu 19 Jul 12

angry bradfordian wrote:
This seems to be about the 3rd time that M&S have announced they are signing up to a store.

With all this celebration about the confidence shown in Bradford, could one of our leaders explain what's going to happen to the current M&S and Next stores in the city?
Well it states that Next will have two stkres. M&S will no doubt close their current one....IF it goes ahead.

Oakenshaw white says...
7:45am Thu 19 Jul 12

Very good, but what about some new stores that we don't already have.

Thee Voice of Reason says...
8:00am Thu 19 Jul 12

T&A rehashing old stories again.

BD16 says...
8:03am Thu 19 Jul 12

Meanwhile over in Leeds the Trinity centre, which is being built right now, has let 80% of its space already.

streetcar says...
8:15am Thu 19 Jul 12

Seems as though we have heard all this before,Iwill believe it when it happens.

Bradford_lad81 says...
8:22am Thu 19 Jul 12

This is a PR move from westfield who are having problems getting public support for thier newley confirmed development in croydon. They have a lt of bad press at the moment. The occupy group have ruffled a few feathers. Good on them

tyker2 says...
8:24am Thu 19 Jul 12

a slow news day so rehash an old one.

Surely now there is enough footage taken to make westfield start. Once companies see it coming out of the ground they will invest.

Craig says...
8:34am Thu 19 Jul 12

Unbelievable line that Westfield will not reveal how many more stores need to be pre-let before work recommences - why and shouldn't they be made to reveal this information?

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I doubt this would be commercially sensitive and given that the Bradford public have suffered this hole and blight on the City Centre for long enough, retailers have gone out of business and the slow death of Bradford becomes ever more painful, they should now be answering questions much more robustly.

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When is Westfield going to be properly held to account and made to stop being so vague and finally explain, in detail and without this cloak and dagger routine, what is going on and when it's going to happen.

Pity Poor Bradford says...
8:36am Thu 19 Jul 12

T&A Rehasing old stories? Surely not?

Oh hang on. M&S announced they were signing up in this story from October 2007.

http://www.thetelegr
aphandargus.co.uk/ne
ws/local/localbrad/1
737191.M_S_signs_up_
to_a_Broadway_store/


and this story from July 2011

http://www.thetelegr
aphandargus.co.uk/ne
ws/local/localbrad/9
163623.Broadway_gets
_M_S_as_anchor_store
/

Cooperlane2 says...
8:41am Thu 19 Jul 12

Blah, bah, blah, Next, M&S, blah, blah, blah...heard it all before.

angry bradfordian says...
8:46am Thu 19 Jul 12

thatsnotmyname wrote:
angry bradfordian wrote:
This seems to be about the 3rd time that M&S have announced they are signing up to a store.

With all this celebration about the confidence shown in Bradford, could one of our leaders explain what's going to happen to the current M&S and Next stores in the city?
Well it states that Next will have two stkres. M&S will no doubt close their current one....IF it goes ahead.
Good point, I missed that sentence!

I still find it hard to believe that Next are going to keep 2 stores open. It doesn't seem to make financial sense for them to pay for the 'prestige' location in Westfield and keep the Forster Sq store half a mile away open as well.

Joedavid says...
9:31am Thu 19 Jul 12

Believe it when I see it!

baildon boy says...
9:49am Thu 19 Jul 12

The harsh reality is that after decades of gross mismanagement of the city no one new wants to invest in bradford and its embarrasing whole in the ground. Look at the investment in Leeds with both the new trinity centre and the expansion of white rose, why wont they come to bradford, easy they dont trust the people who run the city to do anything right.

collos25 says...
10:19am Thu 19 Jul 12

Somebody is telling lies they either signed up now or twice some time back.
I believe its 65% of retail needs to signed up and 75% office or the other way round which ever way its still a long way to go.Shops and offices that do move in will no doubt close any existing premises this will make certain parts of Bradford even worse but we could always make another big hole.Lets face it its another non news storey.

Andrew_ide says...
10:35am Thu 19 Jul 12

Westfield will only attract the tennants once they start to build.

Who is going to comit to a saga this is going has now been running 9yrs+ until the developer actually starts to build it?

Just thought of a new name for them "Carry on Westfield" I'm sure Sid James would have done a better job!

As for M&S / Next, M&S in Darley Street is near enough closed down, and Next, Forster Sq. wouldn't be too surprised to see it become one of there clearance stores.

idleone says...
10:45am Thu 19 Jul 12

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
T&A rehashing old stories again.
Hmmm Messrs Bower and Maclure having their photo taken on top of the T&A's Press Hall does make one wonder if that was following some sort of spin meeting. Again, this is NOT new news and though the story states that this is the final anchor tenant, the last paragraph states that there are others needed before progression is seen. Surely another developer can succeed? Westfield seem rather unreliable to put it mildly.

Albion. says...
10:54am Thu 19 Jul 12

"Who is going to comit to a saga this is going has now been running 9yrs+ until the developer actually starts to build it?"
That has been tried in Bradford before, The development in the 60s/70s in front of the old Forster Square station was built without a full take up and some units had still never been occupied when it was demolished, in the current financial situation building without tenants is a no go.

Albion. says...
10:55am Thu 19 Jul 12

Albion. wrote:
"Who is going to comit to a saga this is going has now been running 9yrs+ until the developer actually starts to build it?"
That has been tried in Bradford before, The development in the 60s/70s in front of the old Forster Square station was built without a full take up and some units had still never been occupied when it was demolished, in the current financial situation building without tenants is a no go.
Sorry! this was in answer to Andrew.

mr-dog says...
11:08am Thu 19 Jul 12

OK - but I want to be able to park right outside for free.

picknick says...
11:11am Thu 19 Jul 12

All the company's are doing here is relocating their stores from the other end of the city. How will this help the Bradford's economy? Who will take over the old M&S maybe a pound shop that's great investment. We need the shops filling that are already empty not more empty ones due to relocation.

justjustice says...
11:23am Thu 19 Jul 12

Marks & Spencer? How many times have we heard that M&S are going to set up there?!

This is not new news, it isnt a milestone, this is just Westfield making it look like they are doing something when in fact they are not!

I dont think the people of Bradford want anything to do with Westfield any more, nor welcomed. They should be forced out, either they sell the site back as well as compensating the city for it's lost economy as well as compensating the businesses who have had to close due to losing more business as shoppers have had to go to Leeds instead.

Westfield is the cancer in Bradford, let's cut it out before it spreads! With all the empty properties surrounding the area, they could buy it up pretty cheap considering that they themselves have ruined the areas!

justjustice says...
11:27am Thu 19 Jul 12

"long-awaited scheme." More like long-delayed scheme!

Remember to sign this petition!

http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/34836

justjustice says...
11:39am Thu 19 Jul 12

Yes the Foster Sq Next store will close down, they may keep it open for a year to test out the shopping centre.

The store at FS does have free parking, but people have to fight for a spot during peak hours.
The Wesfield one, if it ever gets built, althogh no parking, because they "will" be more stores under the same roof, they expect to get more customers.

So my guess, they will keep both open for the first year, and then after that they will evaluate which one produces the most profits and close down the losing store.
Of course if they specialise stores so that they have different categories of items they could keep both open, but the above still applies.

Sorry about the triple posting :P But Westfield really has become the plight of this city, not it's saviour.

modman61 says...
11:48am Thu 19 Jul 12

Believe it when you see it. Does anything ever get done / redeveloped in Bradford? Odsal Stadium and the Odean spring to mind. The city has gone down hill ever since Swan Arcade and the old Kirkgate Maket were demolished. Fine architectural structures only to be replaced with 60's / 70's concrete crap.

Cooperlane2 says...
11:51am Thu 19 Jul 12

Maybe they could temporarily give M&S a portacabin or two cos that's the only building work i think we will see for the next decade.

Joedavid says...
12:17pm Thu 19 Jul 12

modman61 wrote:
Believe it when you see it. Does anything ever get done / redeveloped in Bradford? Odsal Stadium and the Odean spring to mind. The city has gone down hill ever since Swan Arcade and the old Kirkgate Maket were demolished. Fine architectural structures only to be replaced with 60's / 70's concrete crap.
Fountains that were to go highest in the world, but only go up a couple of feet!

Avro says...
12:19pm Thu 19 Jul 12

angry bradfordian wrote:
This seems to be about the 3rd time that M&S have announced they are signing up to a store. With all this celebration about the confidence shown in Bradford, could one of our leaders explain what's going to happen to the current M&S and Next stores in the city?
Westfield and the Council had better come clean on what they are telling us

July 2011 it was anounced that M&S had signed an anchor tenant.

http://www .thetelegraphandargu
s.co.uk/news/9163623
.Broadway_gets_M_S_a
s_anchor_store/
.
Yet now they now say M&S have only just signed up and are the final anchor tenant, even though Debenhams as a tenant or anchor has yet to be formally anounced!

October 2011 Debenhams announced that they would be opening a shop in Bradford, but they never said that it would be in Westfield.

http:/ /www.thetelegraphand
argus.co.uk/news/931
8398.Debenhams_to_ta
ke_store_in_Bradford
_s_Broadway_scheme/

To date Debenhams have not been formally announced as an anchor or any other kind of tenant in Westfield!

Yet the latest from the T&A says Debenhams already signed as an anchor.

Is it any wonder why there is no start date...

Avro says...
12:20pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Basically we were lied to about M&S having signed months ago and I would now also question Debenhams having signed!

theoutsider says...
12:31pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Yet another complete non story from the local chip paper. Nonesense to report that a store has signed up to a 'project' that will not see the light of day this side of 2015 and probably longer given the governments austerity plans now extend to 2020 !.

Bower and Maclure stood over 'the Hole with smirks on their faces - outrageous self publicity !. Both need bringing to account by this paper not pictured as though they are 'the ones' who will deliver us from the evil !.

Give me five minutes in a room with them both and the last word would be mine and its OFF !

theoutsider says...
12:37pm Thu 19 Jul 12

As for sharing vision well neither share mine because from where I am standing that looks like a 'Hole aka Bratfud t'arn senta' in lurking in the background and thus it has been for 7 years and counting...come back in 2015 and I wager now the scene will be the same...

I can see clearly now... says...
12:43pm Thu 19 Jul 12

With the proliferation of betting shops in Bratfud, I'm surprised that Westfield don't ask Laddies to be an anchor tenant...

Clowny says...
12:50pm Thu 19 Jul 12

I can see clearly now... wrote:
With the proliferation of betting shops in Bratfud, I'm surprised that Westfield don't ask Laddies to be an anchor tenant...
There's an idea there along with a Cash Converters, Western Union and a Greggs.

theoutsider says...
12:59pm Thu 19 Jul 12

'Westfield is committed to Bradford and is working closely with the Council'

THAT STATMENT SHOULD WORRY US ALL - anything to do with Westfield and working with Bratfud C'arncil

Would that b'it same C'arncil that slewed £30million of tax payer money into a useless w'atter park frunt a city 'all ?

As I say worrying is it not ?

Avro says...
1:09pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Why not anounce who the other pre-lets are?

Next having signed is only a very small step forward, considering that the site needs to be 75% pre-let BEFORE Westfield will set to work on the build!

How about a formal anouncement from Westfield on Debenhams having actually signed as an anchor?

angry bradfordian says...
1:11pm Thu 19 Jul 12

I've just read the T&A Opinion on the story which is staggering.

It's basically a piece praising the council for 'holding their nerve' in a situation that was caused by outside influences. The editorial team obviously have their finger on the pulse of local opinion!

modman61 says...
1:26pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Bradford Council should all hang their heads in shame,they just don’t have any forward thinking or foresight. All they do is talk and squabble and blame each other. That is why nothing ever gets done!

modman61 says...
1:30pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Clowny wrote:
I can see clearly now... wrote: With the proliferation of betting shops in Bratfud, I'm surprised that Westfield don't ask Laddies to be an anchor tenant...
There's an idea there along with a Cash Converters, Western Union and a Greggs.
And don't forget all the charity Shops.

The_Hoff says...
2:39pm Thu 19 Jul 12

I think there should be an enquiry into this whole (no pun intended) Westfield debacle.
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And preferably one that's televised.
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Some people need to be arrested and questioned on this sickening, criminal behaviour that's been going on for nearly a decade.

Clowny says...
3:21pm Thu 19 Jul 12

mohammedamjid34 wrote:
I think all you idiots should shut the fu**********k up If you dont like Bradford p**** O***
It's not liking Westfield that people are discussing and they pointed out the fact that today's announcement is a sham because it's not new. It's news from years ago being repeated in the hope that we'll be gullible enough to believe it.

I'm told this PR by Westfield coming out now has nothing to do any new commitment to Bradford but is really an attempt to undermine bad press as Westfield want to win a new contract in another city.

parader no1 says...
4:07pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Our illustrious leader Green states that this shows that Westfield are "committed to Bradford" really ? 9+ years and not a bucket of concrete laid. That is committment ???????. You are o a different planet Green

Al Spade says...
4:46pm Thu 19 Jul 12

This is just spin. Is Westfield employing Alistair Campbell?

informer says...
4:54pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Are not M&S and Next main occupiers of Broadway? Therefore, when they move into the new centre Broadway will become yet another derelict area of Bradford. These people are total idiots. Westfield will be the total death of this City. Invest in what we have, we do not need yet another shed to suck what is left of the city centre away and leave empty and derelict building.

Avro says...
4:57pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Let alone other retail units becoming vacant for those who opt to move to Westfield

keelhambar says...
5:15pm Thu 19 Jul 12

I suppose the old M & S will become another betting shop, pound shop or amusement arcade.

Mr Perks says...
6:05pm Thu 19 Jul 12

I have looked into my crystal ball and confidently predict that in the summer of 2112 this site will be informing us that M&S have committed to opening a store in the 'long awaited' Westfield Shopping Centre along with a now very popular hover board store!

TirNaNog says...
8:48pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Does Mr Green seriously consider what Westfield have done (or rather haven't done) shows any committment to Bradford? REALLY? This Johnny Rotten-Wannabe is a puppet for these Aussie shysters who are experiencing negative publicity elsewhere due in no small measure to the occupiers of the site. Well done them! Let the message be clear to Westfield - Build It or Feck Off!
As my old Granny used to say : "Either sh*t or get off the pot".

a reasonable sort of chap says...
10:09pm Thu 19 Jul 12

We've changed our minds, we don't want a shopping mall, can we have a new library and some allotments instead? There are plenty of shops as it is, and after all there's only so much money to go around. This will kill the city centre, like the Metro did to Gateshead, turned it into a ghost town. SAY NO TO WESTFIELD.

a reasonable sort of chap says...
10:11pm Thu 19 Jul 12

picknick wrote:
All the company's are doing here is relocating their stores from the other end of the city. How will this help the Bradford's economy? Who will take over the old M&S maybe a pound shop that's great investment. We need the shops filling that are already empty not more empty ones due to relocation.
Exactly. We don't need a new shopping centre.

still got a pulse says...
10:42pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Joedavid wrote:
modman61 wrote:
Believe it when you see it. Does anything ever get done / redeveloped in Bradford? Odsal Stadium and the Odean spring to mind. The city has gone down hill ever since Swan Arcade and the old Kirkgate Maket were demolished. Fine architectural structures only to be replaced with 60's / 70's concrete crap.
Fountains that were to go highest in the world, but only go up a couple of feet!
Yes, look at Forster Square, Swan arcade, Kirkgate market. Our council/c***cil couldn't organise the proverbial in a brewery! Our Odeon saga looks like it's going the same way. We (the populace) need to make a stand, and get this useless bunch of c***cillors we have in charge brought to bear. As earlier posted comment, we need a public enquiry into Bfd council. £30,000,000 quid on a puddle - they're taking the p*ss!

Commonsensefirst says...
12:10am Fri 20 Jul 12

Bradford Council probably do not want to start the Westfield development until every shopping unit has been filled. If they give the go ahead now they will be delivering a lot of empty shops. We've already got plenty of those in the City Centre.

basil fawlty says...
12:17am Fri 20 Jul 12

informer wrote:
Are not M&S and Next main occupiers of Broadway? Therefore, when they move into the new centre Broadway will become yet another derelict area of Bradford. These people are total idiots. Westfield will be the total death of this City. Invest in what we have, we do not need yet another shed to suck what is left of the city centre away and leave empty and derelict building.
A big part of the problem with bradfords shops like m&s is that they are far too small by modern standards and have a very limited range of goods, hence people shop elsewhere. Broadway will address this problem. Based on what has happened to the ridings centre in wakefield when the trinity walk centre opened, many stores relocated, but then other new businesses moved into the ridings.

justjustice says...
2:26am Fri 20 Jul 12

People should just start fly-tipping into the ground. Might as well make it look the part; nothing but a waste-ground.

Also the added benefit of them having to clear it up, but somehow I bet Bradford Council would happily pay for it.

Avro says...
8:13am Fri 20 Jul 12

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
We've changed our minds, we don't want a shopping mall, can we have a new library and some allotments instead? There are plenty of shops as it is, and after all there's only so much money to go around. This will kill the city centre, like the Metro did to Gateshead, turned it into a ghost town. SAY NO TO WESTFIELD.
How can 'we' change our minds when the Council do not own the Westfield land?

a reasonable sort of chap says...
8:49am Fri 20 Jul 12

Avro wrote:
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
We've changed our minds, we don't want a shopping mall, can we have a new library and some allotments instead? There are plenty of shops as it is, and after all there's only so much money to go around. This will kill the city centre, like the Metro did to Gateshead, turned it into a ghost town. SAY NO TO WESTFIELD.
How can 'we' change our minds when the Council do not own the Westfield land?
I don't care who owns it, one thing's for certain, we don't need any more shops.

Rambo says...
10:18am Fri 20 Jul 12

basil fawlty wrote:
informer wrote:
Are not M&S and Next main occupiers of Broadway? Therefore, when they move into the new centre Broadway will become yet another derelict area of Bradford. These people are total idiots. Westfield will be the total death of this City. Invest in what we have, we do not need yet another shed to suck what is left of the city centre away and leave empty and derelict building.
A big part of the problem with bradfords shops like m&s is that they are far too small by modern standards and have a very limited range of goods, hence people shop elsewhere. Broadway will address this problem. Based on what has happened to the ridings centre in wakefield when the trinity walk centre opened, many stores relocated, but then other new businesses moved into the ridings.
The problem with Wakefield is the traders on the streets around the Northgate and Westgate areas have complained to the council about the footfall being taken away from them when like Bradford Council, they blew smoke up their ars*s telling them how TW would improve the city. Its had the opposite effect on a lot of the independents. People are just going straight from one shopping centre to another and ignoring everything else.
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From what we've found out from other local Wakefield traders, a lot of people are coming from the towns outside Wakfield to Trinity Walk but are just parking there (as the car park is at the far end), doing their grocery shopping in Sainsburys and using the shops in the complex. Many of them don't venture onto the other streets.
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I'm totally with Basil and ARSOChap on this one. We have enough buildings already and enough empty units that need filling and sorting out before building another that will kill off the traders struggling in the centre. A new centre full of chain stores that have no interest in Bradford or Yorkshire.

It will be just a clone of the White Rose Centre.

Rambo says...
10:21am Fri 20 Jul 12

That first paragraph isn't entirely clear. I was making the point that Bradford Council keep telling the current traders total rubbish about how things like the mirror pool will improve trade, how Westfield would etc. when in fact they've all struggled. The council in Wakefield are pretty similar in that regard.

modman61 says...
11:17am Fri 20 Jul 12

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
Avro wrote:
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
We've changed our minds, we don't want a shopping mall, can we have a new library and some allotments instead? There are plenty of shops as it is, and after all there's only so much money to go around. This will kill the city centre, like the Metro did to Gateshead, turned it into a ghost town. SAY NO TO WESTFIELD.
How can 'we' change our minds when the Council do not own the Westfield land?
I don't care who owns it, one thing's for certain, we don't need any more shops.
As per usual ARSOC is coming out with his negative rants! He wants to get a life.

Rambo says...
11:30am Fri 20 Jul 12

modman61 wrote:
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
Avro wrote:
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
We've changed our minds, we don't want a shopping mall, can we have a new library and some allotments instead? There are plenty of shops as it is, and after all there's only so much money to go around. This will kill the city centre, like the Metro did to Gateshead, turned it into a ghost town. SAY NO TO WESTFIELD.
How can 'we' change our minds when the Council do not own the Westfield land?
I don't care who owns it, one thing's for certain, we don't need any more shops.
As per usual ARSOC is coming out with his negative rants! He wants to get a life.
You're missing the point. In Bradford there are already plenty of empty units, good but empty buildings and enough space already that can be used. 10 years ago before half the city was knocked down, before a lot of the independents moved out and before the £ stores, cash converters, fast food etc places moved in, a new shopping centre would have worked.
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However its 2012 and the situation has changed. With most of the centre being the way it is a new shopping centre full of chains would kill off a lot of the trade. Assuming the Kirgate centre still operates, people would go straight from there to Westfield and to the retail park, cutting out the streets inbetween. Thats whats happened in Wakefield, and the same would probably happen in Bradford.

windymiller says...
12:02pm Fri 20 Jul 12

The point I want to make is the same point I made before the council elections: Vote to get rid of the useless council members if you want change stay with the current crop and you have no reason to complain. Sadly the lunatic public chose the later then complain because of inactivity of the council over Westfield. What did the voters expect, you kept the same clowns as councillors now you have to live with it. Maybe next time you will vote on policies and not on party (I,ve always voted for XXX party so I am not changing).

Avro says...
1:08pm Fri 20 Jul 12

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
Avro wrote:
a reasonable sort of chap wrote: We've changed our minds, we don't want a shopping mall, can we have a new library and some allotments instead? There are plenty of shops as it is, and after all there's only so much money to go around. This will kill the city centre, like the Metro did to Gateshead, turned it into a ghost town. SAY NO TO WESTFIELD.
How can 'we' change our minds when the Council do not own the Westfield land?
I don't care who owns it, one thing's for certain, we don't need any more shops.
So how exactly is your new library and allotments going to bring 1000's of people into the city on a weekly basis and also create 2,500 jobs?

If your certain that Bradford does not need any more shops then you've lost the plot!

Andrew_ide says...
1:34pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Avro wrote:
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
Avro wrote:
a reasonable sort of chap wrote: We've changed our minds, we don't want a shopping mall, can we have a new library and some allotments instead? There are plenty of shops as it is, and after all there's only so much money to go around. This will kill the city centre, like the Metro did to Gateshead, turned it into a ghost town. SAY NO TO WESTFIELD.
How can 'we' change our minds when the Council do not own the Westfield land?
I don't care who owns it, one thing's for certain, we don't need any more shops.
So how exactly is your new library and allotments going to bring 1000's of people into the city on a weekly basis and also create 2,500 jobs?

If your certain that Bradford does not need any more shops then you've lost the plot!
It isn't about needing more shops, the current shops are closing as shoppers go to Leeds / Manchester / White Rose / Meadowhall etc.

A new development will attract (hopefully) shoppers back which will move some shops around to the new centre etc, but others will return / move in / start up due to increased shoppers in town.

Loved the earlier comment about Dave (Johnny Rotten) Green, can we get him a one-way ticket to regenerate the jungle!

Popsi Kann says...
2:23pm Fri 20 Jul 12

I have inside information from Bradford Council that M&S will also sign up in 2013!

BD16 says...
2:32pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Rambo wrote:
modman61 wrote:
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
Avro wrote:
a reasonable sort of chap wrote: We've changed our minds, we don't want a shopping mall, can we have a new library and some allotments instead? There are plenty of shops as it is, and after all there's only so much money to go around. This will kill the city centre, like the Metro did to Gateshead, turned it into a ghost town. SAY NO TO WESTFIELD.
How can 'we' change our minds when the Council do not own the Westfield land?
I don't care who owns it, one thing's for certain, we don't need any more shops.
As per usual ARSOC is coming out with his negative rants! He wants to get a life.
You're missing the point. In Bradford there are already plenty of empty units, good but empty buildings and enough space already that can be used. 10 years ago before half the city was knocked down, before a lot of the independents moved out and before the £ stores, cash converters, fast food etc places moved in, a new shopping centre would have worked. . However its 2012 and the situation has changed. With most of the centre being the way it is a new shopping centre full of chains would kill off a lot of the trade. Assuming the Kirgate centre still operates, people would go straight from there to Westfield and to the retail park, cutting out the streets inbetween. Thats whats happened in Wakefield, and the same would probably happen in Bradford.
Why don't the stores that are prepared to take space in a new centre simply open in a current building in Bradford city centre? M&S currently only use 2 out of the 3 floors they have and we don't have a Debenhams at all and yet they are both willing to commit, 3 times in the case of M&S, to a new shopping centre.

allinittogether says...
3:43pm Fri 20 Jul 12

modman61 wrote:
Clowny wrote:
I can see clearly now... wrote: With the proliferation of betting shops in Bratfud, I'm surprised that Westfield don't ask Laddies to be an anchor tenant...
There's an idea there along with a Cash Converters, Western Union and a Greggs.
And don't forget all the charity Shops.
A tattoo parlour would go down well too

Avro says...
4:19pm Fri 20 Jul 12

BD16 wrote:
Rambo wrote:
modman61 wrote:
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
Avro wrote:
a reasonable sort of chap wrote: We've changed our minds, we don't want a shopping mall, can we have a new library and some allotments instead? There are plenty of shops as it is, and after all there's only so much money to go around. This will kill the city centre, like the Metro did to Gateshead, turned it into a ghost town. SAY NO TO WESTFIELD.
How can 'we' change our minds when the Council do not own the Westfield land?
I don't care who owns it, one thing's for certain, we don't need any more shops.
As per usual ARSOC is coming out with his negative rants! He wants to get a life.
You're missing the point. In Bradford there are already plenty of empty units, good but empty buildings and enough space already that can be used. 10 years ago before half the city was knocked down, before a lot of the independents moved out and before the £ stores, cash converters, fast food etc places moved in, a new shopping centre would have worked. . However its 2012 and the situation has changed. With most of the centre being the way it is a new shopping centre full of chains would kill off a lot of the trade. Assuming the Kirgate centre still operates, people would go straight from there to Westfield and to the retail park, cutting out the streets inbetween. Thats whats happened in Wakefield, and the same would probably happen in Bradford.
Why don't the stores that are prepared to take space in a new centre simply open in a current building in Bradford city centre? M&S currently only use 2 out of the 3 floors they have and we don't have a Debenhams at all and yet they are both willing to commit, 3 times in the case of M&S, to a new shopping centre.
Well the ex Sunwin House/TJ Hughes building would certainly suit Debenhams trading style and Bfd don't need a bigger M&S because it does not have the clientele to support it

arhmen aleg says...
10:56pm Mon 23 Jul 12

Well a bit late but I have analysed every comment and there is 99 per cent of people who believe this scheme is no longer neccessary.

Avro and basil Fawlty about the only positive spin.

Too late the muppet hero"s.

Town Centre Retail is dying and in another ten years we will all be at White Roses or shopping online.

The T & A are a disgrace.

I know what the staff think of the editor.

plonker.

And a head of regeneration who is from Sheffield and has no business qualification or idea.Clueless.

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