Bradford police seize luxury car (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

I think it should be scrapped and a video made to show the risks of driving illegally:that video should go national

Flog it on ebay and give the procedes to a worthy charity!

I saw this thing pulled over on Tong street on friday. The driver looked real annoyed!

As someone said, why scrap it ? - sell it off and give the money to charity ?
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We should be doing that to *all* uninsured cars (and imprison the idiot drivers for at least 5 years).

How in the heck is a £90K car not insured? That is just ridiculous!

I bet the guy was angry I have no sympathy none at all.

It just beggars belief that a car like that was no insured

I just hope the driver is unable to get insurance. Who would want to cover him at any price. Already got a conviction now for using without it.

Andraste wrote:
As someone said, why scrap it ? - sell it off and give the money to charity ? . We should be doing that to *all* uninsured cars (and imprison the idiot drivers for at least 5 years).

what no BNP coment, what is the world coming to!

why is it not insured someone asked? because these fellas think they are jack the lad driving a flash car but WILL not pay insurance as they probably could not get it but still want to be a flash harry!!!

make him watch it being scrapped!!

£90k Car, no insurance, "What a Numpty", proceeds of the car could go to the Police, i dont think so... i was hit by a car with no insurance, the b******* got away with it by giving false details. I want some of that cash :), anyhow the driver should be punished "BIG TIME"

I would have to work and save many years to be able to afford a car like that. If I had done so, I would certainly make sure I insured it. However, if I came across the money easily, by way of a benefit claims or ill gotten gains, would I care? Probably not. I say lets see the drivers photo, it was ok to see all the faced of the pitch invaders at city (rightly so) but lets see the unisnured as well. AND £200 fine!!!!!! COME ON the fine should be double what the insurance would have been...at least.

lanzaman wrote:
I would have to work and save many years to be able to afford a car like that. If I had done so, I would certainly make sure I insured it. However, if I came across the money easily, by way of a benefit claims or ill gotten gains, would I care? Probably not. I say lets see the drivers photo, it was ok to see all the faced of the pitch invaders at city (rightly so) but lets see the unisnured as well. AND £200 fine!!!!!! COME ON the fine should be double what the insurance would have been...at least.

I hazard a guess that the driver originated from BD9 so his insurance would have been a lot more than double!!, absolutely no sympathy for him, sell the car and give the money to charity seems like the best thing to do

mr-mixalot wrote:

lanzaman wrote: I would have to work and save many years to be able to afford a car like that. If I had done so, I would certainly make sure I insured it. However, if I came across the money easily, by way of a benefit claims or ill gotten gains, would I care? Probably not. I say lets see the drivers photo, it was ok to see all the faced of the pitch invaders at city (rightly so) but lets see the unisnured as well. AND £200 fine!!!!!! COME ON the fine should be double what the insurance would have been...at least.

I hazard a guess that the driver originated from BD9 so his insurance would have been a lot more than double!!, absolutely no sympathy for him, sell the car and give the money to charity seems like the best thing to do

my guess is drugs lets face it how many times do you see people in exspenive cars driving around in the day time .young and old yet thay have no visable income

There shouldn't be any racist comment about this as this type of offence is done by people of all colours. The law is still wrong when the fine is less than the insurance. I was once told by a copper that you should never drive a nice car in Bradford because of the idiotic drivers that could either nick it or bump it. There just aren't enough patroll cars out on the streets to catch the everyday idiots.

Well done to the police,i'd like to see a permanent police presence on the streets of Bradford tackling this serious problem everyday of the week,i would imagine it's the same numpties driving around with no insurance that also have no concept of joining traffic queuing at traffic lights .Get them off the roads and keep them off.

About time this area was specificly targeted and it looks like the results speak for themselves...

The population living in this area have no respect for British law, customs or the way of life.

And if saying that makes me a racist then look at the figures and tell me I am wrong.

Like many many people I have ALWAYS made sure my vehicles are taxed, tested and insured and I am sick to the eye teeth of these people taking liberties.

A friend of mine has moved house and is facing an almost tripling in the cost of his insurance because people like this. The police should continue to target this area untill every last one of these people are brought to book and the penalties should be much much higher.

lanzaman wrote:
I would have to work and save many years to be able to afford a car like that. If I had done so, I would certainly make sure I insured it. However, if I came across the money easily, by way of a benefit claims or ill gotten gains, would I care? Probably not. I say lets see the drivers photo, it was ok to see all the faced of the pitch invaders at city (rightly so) but lets see the unisnured as well. AND £200 fine!!!!!! COME ON the fine should be double what the insurance would have been...at least.

good thinking i want to see the drivers photo could be the uninsured "t***" that hit my car :)

Excellent news! good work from the Police, lets have more.

spinnekop wrote:
About time this area was specificly targeted and it looks like the results speak for themselves... The population living in this area have no respect for British law, customs or the way of life. And if saying that makes me a racist then look at the figures and tell me I am wrong. Like many many people I have ALWAYS made sure my vehicles are taxed, tested and insured and I am sick to the eye teeth of these people taking liberties. A friend of mine has moved house and is facing an almost tripling in the cost of his insurance because people like this. The police should continue to target this area untill every last one of these people are brought to book and the penalties should be much much higher.

"British Law" is for everyone, doesnt matter what colour you are, crimes are being committed by the silly minority of all races, if you commit a crime you should be punished...

Todays crimes are nothing new they have been around for a long time, well before the foreigners arrived, so dont mention, they have no respect for british law, customs or the way of life. Hey maybe they have actually learnt something whilst being over here "how to committ crime", i tell u what " I HATE CRIME"

BigShak wrote:

spinnekop wrote: About time this area was specificly targeted and it looks like the results speak for themselves... The population living in this area have no respect for British law, customs or the way of life. And if saying that makes me a racist then look at the figures and tell me I am wrong. Like many many people I have ALWAYS made sure my vehicles are taxed, tested and insured and I am sick to the eye teeth of these people taking liberties. A friend of mine has moved house and is facing an almost tripling in the cost of his insurance because people like this. The police should continue to target this area untill every last one of these people are brought to book and the penalties should be much much higher.

"British Law" is for everyone, doesnt matter what colour you are, crimes are being committed by the silly minority of all races, if you commit a crime you should be punished... Todays crimes are nothing new they have been around for a long time, well before the foreigners arrived, so dont mention, they have no respect for british law, customs or the way of life. Hey maybe they have actually learnt something whilst being over here "how to committ crime", i tell u what " I HATE CRIME"

silly minority ?????you ever checked the court file on a night there must be 10 to 15 a day ,that is not a minority

BigShak wrote:

spinnekop wrote: About time this area was specificly targeted and it looks like the results speak for themselves... The population living in this area have no respect for British law, customs or the way of life. And if saying that makes me a racist then look at the figures and tell me I am wrong. Like many many people I have ALWAYS made sure my vehicles are taxed, tested and insured and I am sick to the eye teeth of these people taking liberties. A friend of mine has moved house and is facing an almost tripling in the cost of his insurance because people like this. The police should continue to target this area untill every last one of these people are brought to book and the penalties should be much much higher.

"British Law" is for everyone, doesnt matter what colour you are, crimes are being committed by the silly minority of all races, if you commit a crime you should be punished... Todays crimes are nothing new they have been around for a long time, well before the foreigners arrived, so dont mention, they have no respect for british law, customs or the way of life. Hey maybe they have actually learnt something whilst being over here "how to committ crime", i tell u what " I HATE CRIME"

Spinnekop, I think you are right. Every single person man, woman and child in this area has no respect for the rule of law. Of course no-one from outside can drive into the area because this would contradict your theory - so it must be down to all the residents living there.

Well done to the police - I am sick and tired of drivers of such cars cutting me up at the lights - in the wrong lanes to avoid waiting - using mobiles while driving - dealing drugs on the street, and being a general pain in the a*se to the rest of us who keep to the law with our vehicles. How many times have we all seen cars with drivers that you know would never afford the insurance, put two and two together 19 years old new BMW or similar - the sums don't add up.

bradfordlovesus!!!!! wrote:

BigShak wrote:

spinnekop wrote: About time this area was specificly targeted and it looks like the results speak for themselves... The population living in this area have no respect for British law, customs or the way of life. And if saying that makes me a racist then look at the figures and tell me I am wrong. Like many many people I have ALWAYS made sure my vehicles are taxed, tested and insured and I am sick to the eye teeth of these people taking liberties. A friend of mine has moved house and is facing an almost tripling in the cost of his insurance because people like this. The police should continue to target this area untill every last one of these people are brought to book and the penalties should be much much higher.

"British Law" is for everyone, doesnt matter what colour you are, crimes are being committed by the silly minority of all races, if you commit a crime you should be punished... Todays crimes are nothing new they have been around for a long time, well before the foreigners arrived, so dont mention, they have no respect for british law, customs or the way of life. Hey maybe they have actually learnt something whilst being over here "how to committ crime", i tell u what " I HATE CRIME"

silly minority ?????you ever checked the court file on a night there must be 10 to 15 a day ,that is not a minority

dont need to!!!! well after all their in the spotlight

Although it is wrong that this person wasn't insured he hadn't cost anybody anything as he hadn't had an accident so at that point it was a victimless crime. It's no use anyone saying that others are paying higher premiums to support him as he hasn't yet cost anything and he probably didn't have it insured because he couldn't afford it. The biggest risk is to himself if it's nicked or wrecked but there's no way he's going to forfeit the car to the police unless he's even more stupid (or rich) than we think. You don't need to be a detective to observe that there is a certain section of the community who pose around in these types of cars and I would think they are an easy and obvious target for the plod.

bradfordlovesus!!!!! wrote:

BigShak wrote:

spinnekop wrote: About time this area was specificly targeted and it looks like the results speak for themselves... The population living in this area have no respect for British law, customs or the way of life. And if saying that makes me a racist then look at the figures and tell me I am wrong. Like many many people I have ALWAYS made sure my vehicles are taxed, tested and insured and I am sick to the eye teeth of these people taking liberties. A friend of mine has moved house and is facing an almost tripling in the cost of his insurance because people like this. The police should continue to target this area untill every last one of these people are brought to book and the penalties should be much much higher.

"British Law" is for everyone, doesnt matter what colour you are, crimes are being committed by the silly minority of all races, if you commit a crime you should be punished... Todays crimes are nothing new they have been around for a long time, well before the foreigners arrived, so dont mention, they have no respect for british law, customs or the way of life. Hey maybe they have actually learnt something whilst being over here "how to committ crime", i tell u what " I HATE CRIME"

silly minority ?????you ever checked the court file on a night there must be 10 to 15 a day ,that is not a minority

oh i must say, you and your records, anything mentioned about the inoccent numbers they stop? , and who they stop? thats far greater

that's ok then: a victimless crime. SORRY BUT IT IS NOT VICTIMLESS. We all pay more insurance that we should for these numpties so we are all victims.

An interesting suggestion: how long would it take the police take to find out what insurance would be chargeable for that car. once established the fine is double that and if it is not paid within 14 days imprisonment should follow with a tariff set based on the value of the fine.

tyker wrote:
why is it not insured someone asked? because these fellas think they are jack the lad driving a flash car but WILL not pay insurance as they probably could not get it but still want to be a flash harry!!!

make him watch it being scrapped!!

Agreed, tyker :-)
And as one of the above contributors mentioned, crime is carried out by all sections of the community. This silly finger-pointing and stereotyping is unhelpful and inaccurate.

Darbees needs to grow up. Bet he's involved in all the victimless crimes.

ms walker wrote:

tyker wrote:
why is it not insured someone asked? because these fellas think they are jack the lad driving a flash car but WILL not pay insurance as they probably could not get it but still want to be a flash harry!!!

make him watch it being scrapped!!

Agreed, tyker :-)
And as one of the above contributors mentioned, crime is carried out by all sections of the community. This silly finger-pointing and stereotyping is unhelpful and inaccurate.

lol, I should correct myself here - I should have said: 'Crime is carried out by people who come from all sections of the community'.
Apologies, my previous comment implies we are all guilty... maybe we are! ;-)

Darbees wrote:
Although it is wrong that this person wasn't insured he hadn't cost anybody anything as he hadn't had an accident so at that point it was a victimless crime. It's no use anyone saying that others are paying higher premiums to support him as he hasn't yet cost anything and he probably didn't have it insured because he couldn't afford it. The biggest risk is to himself if it's nicked or wrecked but there's no way he's going to forfeit the car to the police unless he's even more stupid (or rich) than we think. You don't need to be a detective to observe that there is a certain section of the community who pose around in these types of cars and I would think they are an easy and obvious target for the plod.

Do you know this for certain... for all you know he hasn't got insurance on the vehicle because he might be uninsurable due anything from no insurance to drink driving to no licence. So no it's not a victimless crime driving a car without insurance or a licence or mot is a priviledge earnt by following the law and abiding by the law.
If it was a mistake it will be rectified if it wasn't don't you think if a person can afford to be in a £90k car they should be able to afford to insure it if not buy a cheaper one and put the savings to making it legal like the rest of us.
No insurance should be at least a years ban and the fine should be the cost of insurance plus a few more hundred on top and do it again and you loose your license for good that would sort it out once and for all.

tyker wrote:
that's ok then: a victimless crime. SORRY BUT IT IS NOT VICTIMLESS. We all pay more insurance that we should for these numpties so we are all victims.

An interesting suggestion: how long would it take the police take to find out what insurance would be chargeable for that car. once established the fine is double that and if it is not paid within 14 days imprisonment should follow with a tariff set based on the value of the fine.

I didn't say victimless crime was ok but it's not worthy of such hysterical reporting. I don't think we do pay more premiums because of these people, the insurers just make less profit and if there is a claim the actual loss to the insurance market is the unpaid premium, not the cost of the accident.

On your other point, perhaps the police should go on Comparethe Meerkat or Confused.com. I don't think the penalty can be related to premium, it's too complicated but obviously it should be much higher than it is to ensure it is a punitive deterrant. As things are, it would still be worthwhile for this Ferrari owner to do it again.

johnh1 wrote:
Darbees needs to grow up. Bet he's involved in all the victimless crimes.

Why?

Darbees wrote:

tyker wrote: that's ok then: a victimless crime. SORRY BUT IT IS NOT VICTIMLESS. We all pay more insurance that we should for these numpties so we are all victims. An interesting suggestion: how long would it take the police take to find out what insurance would be chargeable for that car. once established the fine is double that and if it is not paid within 14 days imprisonment should follow with a tariff set based on the value of the fine.

I didn't say victimless crime was ok but it's not worthy of such hysterical reporting. I don't think we do pay more premiums because of these people, the insurers just make less profit and if there is a claim the actual loss to the insurance market is the unpaid premium, not the cost of the accident. On your other point, perhaps the police should go on Comparethe Meerkat or Confused.com. I don't think the penalty can be related to premium, it's too complicated but obviously it should be much higher than it is to ensure it is a punitive deterrant. As things are, it would still be worthwhile for this Ferrari owner to do it again.

Darbees,

I think you will find we do pay more premiums. Since one of the factors which is used to determine premiums is your location. If you live in a high car crime related area then you will be a bigger risk when compared to someone who doesn't.

BigShak wrote:

bradfordlovesus!!!!! wrote:

BigShak wrote:

spinnekop wrote: About time this area was specificly targeted and it looks like the results speak for themselves... The population living in this area have no respect for British law, customs or the way of life. And if saying that makes me a racist then look at the figures and tell me I am wrong. Like many many people I have ALWAYS made sure my vehicles are taxed, tested and insured and I am sick to the eye teeth of these people taking liberties. A friend of mine has moved house and is facing an almost tripling in the cost of his insurance because people like this. The police should continue to target this area untill every last one of these people are brought to book and the penalties should be much much higher.

"British Law" is for everyone, doesnt matter what colour you are, crimes are being committed by the silly minority of all races, if you commit a crime you should be punished... Todays crimes are nothing new they have been around for a long time, well before the foreigners arrived, so dont mention, they have no respect for british law, customs or the way of life. Hey maybe they have actually learnt something whilst being over here "how to committ crime", i tell u what " I HATE CRIME"

silly minority ?????you ever checked the court file on a night there must be 10 to 15 a day ,that is not a minority

oh i must say, you and your records, anything mentioned about the inoccent numbers they stop? , and who they stop? thats far greater

me and my records ?????ok lets put "THE POLICE STOPPED 200 PEOPLE AND LET THEM GO BECAUSE THAY WAS LEGAL"now thats major headlines

If you take a simple hypothetical model where 10 drivers pay £1000 premium each. One of the drivers makes a claim for £10,000 everything is ok. If an 11th driver comes in the premiums would go down to £909 due to his participation but if he doesn't get insured and doesn't have an accident (which he caused), although he is being selfish and unfair he hasn't actually cost the others £91 each, he has simply chosen not to join the scheme which is anti-social but unless he has an accident it doesn't make a difference.

Darbees wrote:
Although it is wrong that this person wasn't insured he hadn't cost anybody anything as he hadn't had an accident so at that point it was a victimless crime. It's no use anyone saying that others are paying higher premiums to support him as he hasn't yet cost anything and he probably didn't have it insured because he couldn't afford it. The biggest risk is to himself if it's nicked or wrecked but there's no way he's going to forfeit the car to the police unless he's even more stupid (or rich) than we think. You don't need to be a detective to observe that there is a certain section of the community who pose around in these types of cars and I would think they are an easy and obvious target for the plod.

"probably didn't have it insured because he couldn't afford it"
Excuse me while I wipe away a tear!
He could do like honest folk and buy something he can afford to run.
£90,000 would buy a very nice car with plenty of change for insurance.
It's hard to sympathise with him.

A couple of points are being overlooked here.
(1) How do we know the driver had not simply overlooked renewing insurance? Easy to point fingers but I've overlooked MOT & tax before today.
(2) The car won't get crushed, the owner will simply get insurance cover and retrieve the vehicle. Only bangers which are worth jack get crushed.

Newswatcher wrote:

Darbees wrote:
Although it is wrong that this person wasn't insured he hadn't cost anybody anything as he hadn't had an accident so at that point it was a victimless crime. It's no use anyone saying that others are paying higher premiums to support him as he hasn't yet cost anything and he probably didn't have it insured because he couldn't afford it. The biggest risk is to himself if it's nicked or wrecked but there's no way he's going to forfeit the car to the police unless he's even more stupid (or rich) than we think. You don't need to be a detective to observe that there is a certain section of the community who pose around in these types of cars and I would think they are an easy and obvious target for the plod.

"probably didn't have it insured because he couldn't afford it"
Excuse me while I wipe away a tear!
He could do like honest folk and buy something he can afford to run.
£90,000 would buy a very nice car with plenty of change for insurance.
It's hard to sympathise with him.

I don't have any sympathy for him.

Darbees wrote:
Although it is wrong that this person wasn't insured he hadn't cost anybody anything as he hadn't had an accident so at that point it was a victimless crime. It's no use anyone saying that others are paying higher premiums to support him as he hasn't yet cost anything and he probably didn't have it insured because he couldn't afford it. The biggest risk is to himself if it's nicked or wrecked but there's no way he's going to forfeit the car to the police unless he's even more stupid (or rich) than we think. You don't need to be a detective to observe that there is a certain section of the community who pose around in these types of cars and I would think they are an easy and obvious target for the plod.

load of tosh !!!!!!
peado in a swimming pool changingroom with a camera, bt not taken any pics yet, but he might ?
thug walkin around with a loaded gun, but not shot anybody, but he might ?
drivin a fast car with no insurance, not had a crash, but he might ?
victimless crime, my ar$e !!!
HE WAS BREAKING THE LAW - SCRAP THE CAR !!!!!!!!

Darbees wrote:
Although it is wrong that this person wasn't insured he hadn't cost anybody anything as he hadn't had an accident so at that point it was a victimless crime. It's no use anyone saying that others are paying higher premiums to support him as he hasn't yet cost anything and he probably didn't have it insured because he couldn't afford it. The biggest risk is to himself if it's nicked or wrecked but there's no way he's going to forfeit the car to the police unless he's even more stupid (or rich) than we think. You don't need to be a detective to observe that there is a certain section of the community who pose around in these types of cars and I would think they are an easy and obvious target for the plod.

next you'll be saying prostitution is victimless.. because the prostitute gets her money and the punters gets laid.. win win right?

you do realise that its people WITHOUT insurance that cuase most accidents due to recklessness.

no insurance is against the law, therefore the victims are the people that pay for the claim, yes thats ALL of the legal drivers n the road. "the premiums of the many pay for the claims of the few" i believe the phrase is.

whilst the driver of THIS car might not have had an acident etc that we know have, there HAS to be proven examples to disuade people from doing this themselves.

crime is crime and somewhere there is a victim even if its not instantly visible.

webess wrote:
A couple of points are being overlooked here.
(1) How do we know the driver had not simply overlooked renewing insurance? Easy to point fingers but I've overlooked MOT & tax before today.
(2) The car won't get crushed, the owner will simply get insurance cover and retrieve the vehicle. Only bangers which are worth jack get crushed.

Indeed, people take a different view because they don't like the idea of anyone having a Ferrari because they haven't got one. If it had been an old banger they would be blaming the system for charging premiums which were too high for the value of the car and for dishing out too small a penalty rather than blaming the driver.

people have brought race into this, but all was mentioned was BD9! Anyway his number plate looks dodgy too, extra fine for that? I cant believe the comment that its ok for him to be uninsured bcause he cant afford it. well tickle my t!ts till friday, i'll cancel mine and book a holiday!!

tornshaunton wrote:

Darbees wrote:
Although it is wrong that this person wasn't insured he hadn't cost anybody anything as he hadn't had an accident so at that point it was a victimless crime. It's no use anyone saying that others are paying higher premiums to support him as he hasn't yet cost anything and he probably didn't have it insured because he couldn't afford it. The biggest risk is to himself if it's nicked or wrecked but there's no way he's going to forfeit the car to the police unless he's even more stupid (or rich) than we think. You don't need to be a detective to observe that there is a certain section of the community who pose around in these types of cars and I would think they are an easy and obvious target for the plod.

load of tosh !!!!!!
peado in a swimming pool changingroom with a camera, bt not taken any pics yet, but he might ?
thug walkin around with a loaded gun, but not shot anybody, but he might ?
drivin a fast car with no insurance, not had a crash, but he might ?
victimless crime, my ar$e !!!
HE WAS BREAKING THE LAW - SCRAP THE CAR !!!!!!!!

Those are bad analogies, those people are specifically equipped to commit a crime, having a car isn't. I'm merely suggesting that this particular crime is victimless until they cause an accident, I'm not talking about any other crimes.

Darbees wrote:

tornshaunton wrote:

Darbees wrote: Although it is wrong that this person wasn't insured he hadn't cost anybody anything as he hadn't had an accident so at that point it was a victimless crime. It's no use anyone saying that others are paying higher premiums to support him as he hasn't yet cost anything and he probably didn't have it insured because he couldn't afford it. The biggest risk is to himself if it's nicked or wrecked but there's no way he's going to forfeit the car to the police unless he's even more stupid (or rich) than we think. You don't need to be a detective to observe that there is a certain section of the community who pose around in these types of cars and I would think they are an easy and obvious target for the plod.

load of tosh !!!!!! peado in a swimming pool changingroom with a camera, bt not taken any pics yet, but he might ? thug walkin around with a loaded gun, but not shot anybody, but he might ? drivin a fast car with no insurance, not had a crash, but he might ? victimless crime, my ar$e !!! HE WAS BREAKING THE LAW - SCRAP THE CAR !!!!!!!!

Those are bad analogies, those people are specifically equipped to commit a crime, having a car isn't. I'm merely suggesting that this particular crime is victimless until they cause an accident, I'm not talking about any other crimes.

a crime is a crime !if i take a knife and stab someone to death then i get life,if i take a car and kill someone i get 5 years.

Darbees wrote:

tornshaunton wrote:

Darbees wrote:
Although it is wrong that this person wasn't insured he hadn't cost anybody anything as he hadn't had an accident so at that point it was a victimless crime. It's no use anyone saying that others are paying higher premiums to support him as he hasn't yet cost anything and he probably didn't have it insured because he couldn't afford it. The biggest risk is to himself if it's nicked or wrecked but there's no way he's going to forfeit the car to the police unless he's even more stupid (or rich) than we think. You don't need to be a detective to observe that there is a certain section of the community who pose around in these types of cars and I would think they are an easy and obvious target for the plod.

load of tosh !!!!!!
peado in a swimming pool changingroom with a camera, bt not taken any pics yet, but he might ?
thug walkin around with a loaded gun, but not shot anybody, but he might ?
drivin a fast car with no insurance, not had a crash, but he might ?
victimless crime, my ar$e !!!
HE WAS BREAKING THE LAW - SCRAP THE CAR !!!!!!!!

Those are bad analogies, those people are specifically equipped to commit a crime, having a car isn't. I'm merely suggesting that this particular crime is victimless until they cause an accident, I'm not talking about any other crimes.

Darbees there is no such thing as a victimless crime. The law states that you must have insurance therefore the law was broken and the criminal who broke the law should be made to pay, simple as that.

I have no doubt that he will be able to provide a motor trader's certificate from Tradex or similar and get his car back in no time.

I have the money to buy a car like this and the money to insure it but choose not to have one for fear of it being nicked or hit by an uninsured.

DARBEES just doesn't get it does he?

additionally if the bloke had overlooked his insurance then that means that the car was being driven uninsured and there is no way that an insurance company will back date a policy by even an hour ne'er mind longer.

Forgetfullness to have the car insured is no excuse.

Maybe the driver will try get some dodgy insurance on it but if he does he risks further charges.

SCRAP IT IN FRONT OF HIM .VIDEO IT AND USE THE EVENT FOR PROMOTIONAL PURPOSES.

I haven't said he shouldn't pay. In fact I said earlier that the penalty should be higher if it's to be a deterrent to prevent people taking the risk. I would have thought that sopmeone who was taking the risk on an expensive car would drive more cautiously and I suspect most people get away with it. I was however making the point that there is no victim to this crime until they cause an accident, there are numerous victimless crimes on the statute books and quite a few relate to motoring matters, others relate to bureaucratic matters but that's another issue.

So... driving an uninsured car is like carryin a knife. Its a victimless crime and taking a risk. Until somone ends up on the end of it, intended or not.
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*park-well* are you kidding me?...

seen lots of young lads driving top cars, most of them in the delivery business on council estates - go figure!!!

FIRSTLEY I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ITS NOT 90K ITS ACTUALLY 120K.AND IT WAS INSURED. IF U THINK IT SHOULD BE SCRAPPED WELL GO BUY 1 FIRST THEN TALK ABOUT IT.IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT....

ZARY wrote:
FIRSTLEY I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ITS NOT 90K ITS ACTUALLY 120K.AND IT WAS INSURED. IF U THINK IT SHOULD BE SCRAPPED WELL GO BUY 1 FIRST THEN TALK ABOUT IT.IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT....

if it was insured why did thay take it then??????????????

ZARY wrote:
FIRSTLEY I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ITS NOT 90K ITS ACTUALLY 120K.AND IT WAS INSURED. IF U THINK IT SHOULD BE SCRAPPED WELL GO BUY 1 FIRST THEN TALK ABOUT IT.IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT....

Someone has been done. You could get 2 for that price and get some change.

bradfordlovesus!!!!! wrote:

ZARY wrote: FIRSTLEY I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ITS NOT 90K ITS ACTUALLY 120K.AND IT WAS INSURED. IF U THINK IT SHOULD BE SCRAPPED WELL GO BUY 1 FIRST THEN TALK ABOUT IT.IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT....

if it was insured why did thay take it then??????????????

you tell me.you realy think that car would be driven around with no insurance i dont think so mate were not from bradford we can afford ower cars and insurance.

ZARY wrote:

bradfordlovesus!!!!! wrote:

ZARY wrote: FIRSTLEY I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ITS NOT 90K ITS ACTUALLY 120K.AND IT WAS INSURED. IF U THINK IT SHOULD BE SCRAPPED WELL GO BUY 1 FIRST THEN TALK ABOUT IT.IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT....

if it was insured why did thay take it then??????????????

you tell me.you realy think that car would be driven around with no insurance i dont think so mate were not from bradford we can afford ower cars and insurance.

One must wonder how you manage to afford such luxuries, when you are clearly uneducated and have a most unfortunate manner.

Technicalities can happen in such a poor system for this to even be a discussion is absolutley pathetic and childish it clearly indicates in these comments that they are more related to well firstly racial an more so jelaousy. people have obviously gone backwards to think or even assume something which they have no clear knowledge of for example the owner of this ferrari do you all persoanlly even know who that person is an yet you all want to give in your 2 pence worth pathetic.

Very well put AdilT...and as for ZARY...me thinks he/she is trying to portray someone or a certain community that they arent from. and also Darbees is correct a 360 is no way worth 90k anymore nevermind 120 lol...you can pick up F430's cheaper than that...but on the whole once againt the majority of comments are from narrow minded uneducated low lives...dossing on the dole..oh and i dont care if i miss spelt a word or two or missed a letter here and there...this isnt an english essay.

I am not sure if Police is doing a good thing or not. It seems like they are making money for Insurance people. Insurance Agents are corrupt, idiots and down right criminals. They take full advantage of people and when the time comes to pay the claim they refuse it. The legal system is so corrupted here that it works only for big corporations and rich people. Most public cannot even file a small claim case against rich people or big corporations.

Insurance company pay and donate millions in police funds so they do as a favor to Insurance companies that they start ticketting people so they get insurance which is very high. Government should take control of Insurance industry and provide affordable insurance to all drivers.

Government should also get rid of Televison License and let BBC funds itself by providing their channels on cable where public pays for their channels if they want to watch it.

I certainly think that BBC is a Government Propaganda Machinery liek in countries where they have dictatorship

BD3!!
LEEDS ROAD BOYZ 4 LYF!!

Someone I know had his car seized by police couple of years back. The computerised system said he had no insurance. He in fact did, but his insurance company had failed to add his details to the database. He had to pay the impound lot over £100 pounds to have it released, even though he brought proof that it had been insured all the time. At the time of its seizure he was miles from home, it was the early hours of the morning, and he was not very well, he had to walk home. He never got an apology from his insurance company. He did eventually get his money back from the impound people, but it was months later, and after having to write, and call them numerous times.

ZARY wrote:

bradfordlovesus!!!!! wrote:

ZARY wrote: FIRSTLEY I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ITS NOT 90K ITS ACTUALLY 120K.AND IT WAS INSURED. IF U THINK IT SHOULD BE SCRAPPED WELL GO BUY 1 FIRST THEN TALK ABOUT IT.IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT....

if it was insured why did thay take it then??????????????

you tell me.you realy think that car would be driven around with no insurance i dont think so mate were not from bradford we can afford ower cars and insurance.

ohh dear ! a sympathetic relative of the driver of the £90k car ! or are you the driver of the 90k car ??

and your takin the pi55, dewsbury and insurance hahahahahahahaaaaa.. one of the highest insurance penalty areas along with bradford and manchester .


sell the car and buy some new ICU cots for the baby unit at BRI . saves sending our sick babies 100's of miles away from home for treatment .

bradfordcityno1 wrote:
BD3!!
LEEDS ROAD BOYZ 4 LYF!!

Are Leeds Rd boyz the ones with rickets & 6 fingers ?

Darbees wrote:

tornshaunton wrote:

Darbees wrote: Although it is wrong that this person wasn't insured he hadn't cost anybody anything as he hadn't had an accident so at that point it was a victimless crime. It's no use anyone saying that others are paying higher premiums to support him as he hasn't yet cost anything and he probably didn't have it insured because he couldn't afford it. The biggest risk is to himself if it's nicked or wrecked but there's no way he's going to forfeit the car to the police unless he's even more stupid (or rich) than we think. You don't need to be a detective to observe that there is a certain section of the community who pose around in these types of cars and I would think they are an easy and obvious target for the plod.

load of tosh !!!!!! peado in a swimming pool changingroom with a camera, bt not taken any pics yet, but he might ? thug walkin around with a loaded gun, but not shot anybody, but he might ? drivin a fast car with no insurance, not had a crash, but he might ? victimless crime, my ar$e !!! HE WAS BREAKING THE LAW - SCRAP THE CAR !!!!!!!!

Those are bad analogies, those people are specifically equipped to commit a crime, having a car isn't. I'm merely suggesting that this particular crime is victimless until they cause an accident, I'm not talking about any other crimes.

well how about this then - i get drunk in the pub every night, drive my car home & park it up without being stopped by the police - i have broken the law, but got away with it.
then 1 night the police pull me & i get done for DWUI.
Or, i drive my uninsured car about every day & park it up at night. then 1 day the police are out with their ANPR cameras & stop me for not being insured - - same.but different, but at the end of the day . . . I HAVE DONE SOMETHING THAT IS AGAINST THE LAW & MUST NOW SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES - - he/she was driving a the car illegally & got caught, end of !!

MikeBD wrote:
I am not sure if Police is doing a good thing or not. It seems like they are making money for Insurance people. Insurance Agents are corrupt, idiots and down right criminals. They take full advantage of people and when the time comes to pay the claim they refuse it. The legal system is so corrupted here that it works only for big corporations and rich people. Most public cannot even file a small claim case against rich people or big corporations.

Insurance company pay and donate millions in police funds so they do as a favor to Insurance companies that they start ticketting people so they get insurance which is very high. Government should take control of Insurance industry and provide affordable insurance to all drivers.

Government should also get rid of Televison License and let BBC funds itself by providing their channels on cable where public pays for their channels if they want to watch it.

I certainly think that BBC is a Government Propaganda Machinery liek in countries where they have dictatorship

In that case why are you still here?

I am Asian and abide by the laws of this country.
I can understand the comments made by people above. I have worked since i was 16 and now im 34 with a really good job but i still couldn't afford to buy that sort of car or even afford to run the car with insurance.

I have reported on many occasions the young asian youths driving irresponsibly and dealing drugs, however police are very laid back in responding to reports. I live in the BD3 area where drugs can be bought outside the local co-op where you will find young asian youths dealing openingly.

They ages must range from 17 - 28 driving nice flashy cars.!.I did my own ANPR sort of investigation and have found that most the flashy cars that these idiots drive have got insurance, however the insurance is a traders policy under a bogus car dealers trade name as this policy will cover you to drive any car as long as you work for the bogus car traders company. So as you can see the business of selling cars doesn't happen, but the business of selling drugs does, hence why u'll see the same idiot driving different cars every week making it harder for the police to keep track.

I would like to see the police take this further and request information and proof of work, funds etc showing they can afford to buy cars of such marques. proof of where the money came from..!!..

there is so much that can be done,which isnt being done....The only time you see police is wen they are zooming past you with lights flashing..

Really need to up patrol cars, our taxes are paying the police to sit on there back sides in the office doing nothing..!!!

again speculating something of which no knowlegde of we are not from bradford as it has been mentioned before an its pointless for peole to share there sad an jelousy opinions this matter is going to be taken up with the newspaper and the police for releasing false information an i assure we have nothing to worry about unfortunatly for you every pennny can be accounted for.

YOUR ALL JEALOUS,

JEALOUSY GET YOU NO WHERE KIDS xxx

Nothing to do with Jealousy you bradistan idiot.

Its about safety and people's well being.

Im sure the parents of these people breaking the law are all happy when they are bringing in the money for them etc...
Even those of you are breaking the law with no insurance etc have an accident and someone is killed (could be you or could bve the third party) who will be laughing certainly not you if your laying there dead. It will be your parents, family etc. Life dsnt have a price, its priceless so why not pay that insurance that will help provide if something happens..

Think outside the box, not in the box by avoiding car insurance bcoz its too expensive.

i must be speaking a complete alien language which part of english isnt anyone understanding. if this article is false what does that mean let me see its means that this article is simply not true must be rocket science this,therfore this discussin is still yet again pointless your words do not make a diffrence your not going to change anything here criminals will carrry on creating crime so do something usefull and place your comments in the right section where there needs to be changes for example where people are actually getting done for drugs an there evidence to it your opinions would fit perfrectly there.

jimmyblue wrote:
Nothing to do with Jealousy you bradistan idiot. Its about safety and people's well being. Im sure the parents of these people breaking the law are all happy when they are bringing in the money for them etc... Even those of you are breaking the law with no insurance etc have an accident and someone is killed (could be you or could bve the third party) who will be laughing certainly not you if your laying there dead. It will be your parents, family etc. Life dsnt have a price, its priceless so why not pay that insurance that will help provide if something happens.. Think outside the box, not in the box by avoiding car insurance bcoz its too expensive.

RIGHT JIMMY YOU MUPPET, SO YOUR TELLING ME IF I KILL SOMEONE IN MY BMW AND HAVE INSURNCE IT'S ALL GOOD.

AS LONG AS YOUR FAMILY GET PAID OUT YOU PENNY GRABBIN TRAMP

YOUR JUST JEALOUS YOU COULD WORK 3 LIFE TIMES AND NEVER AFFORD A CAR LIKE THAT

Tomshaunton....."wel
l how about this then - i get drunk in the pub every night, drive my car home & park it up without being stopped by the police - i have broken the law, but got away with it.
then 1 night the police pull me & i get done for DWUI.
Or, i drive my uninsured car about every day & park it up at night. then 1 day the police are out with their ANPR cameras & stop me for not being insured - - same.but different, but at the end of the day . . . I HAVE DONE SOMETHING THAT IS AGAINST THE LAW & MUST NOW SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES - - he/she was driving a the car illegally & got caught, end of !!"....Yes I agree that the law is the law and I don't approve of people driving without insurance, the point i was trying to make is to put it into perspective against other more serious crimes and in fact to use your DUI analogy, I think that there should be random police stops to catch drink drivers as drinking is proven to be dangerous and to cause accidents, driving without insurance is not dangerous and does not cause anything to happen.

BRADISTAN-MAN wrote:

jimmyblue wrote:
Nothing to do with Jealousy you bradistan idiot. Its about safety and people's well being. Im sure the parents of these people breaking the law are all happy when they are bringing in the money for them etc... Even those of you are breaking the law with no insurance etc have an accident and someone is killed (could be you or could bve the third party) who will be laughing certainly not you if your laying there dead. It will be your parents, family etc. Life dsnt have a price, its priceless so why not pay that insurance that will help provide if something happens.. Think outside the box, not in the box by avoiding car insurance bcoz its too expensive.

RIGHT JIMMY YOU MUPPET, SO YOUR TELLING ME IF I KILL SOMEONE IN MY BMW AND HAVE INSURNCE IT'S ALL GOOD.

AS LONG AS YOUR FAMILY GET PAID OUT YOU PENNY GRABBIN TRAMP

YOUR JUST JEALOUS YOU COULD WORK 3 LIFE TIMES AND NEVER AFFORD A CAR LIKE THAT

Why do people think it's about jealousy? I live in a nice area, drive a nice car and I could probably buy a Ferrari if I wanted, but I don't wish to.

However, Insurance isn't about money grabbing victims, it's about protection for the law abiding motorist.

I suspect that if you're happy to break the law by driving without insurance, then you're probably quite likely to break the law in other ways as well.

I'm just glad I don't have such a feeble mind that I want to drive around in a car I can't afford to insure just to show some face.

lanzaman wrote:

ZARY wrote:

bradfordlovesus!!!!! wrote:

ZARY wrote: FIRSTLEY I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ITS NOT 90K ITS ACTUALLY 120K.AND IT WAS INSURED. IF U THINK IT SHOULD BE SCRAPPED WELL GO BUY 1 FIRST THEN TALK ABOUT IT.IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT....

if it was insured why did thay take it then??????????????

you tell me.you realy think that car would be driven around with no insurance i dont think so mate were not from bradford we can afford ower cars and insurance.

One must wonder how you manage to afford such luxuries, when you are clearly uneducated and have a most unfortunate manner.

Lol! Like it!

Bone_idle18 wrote:

BRADISTAN-MAN wrote:

jimmyblue wrote:
Nothing to do with Jealousy you bradistan idiot. Its about safety and people's well being. Im sure the parents of these people breaking the law are all happy when they are bringing in the money for them etc... Even those of you are breaking the law with no insurance etc have an accident and someone is killed (could be you or could bve the third party) who will be laughing certainly not you if your laying there dead. It will be your parents, family etc. Life dsnt have a price, its priceless so why not pay that insurance that will help provide if something happens.. Think outside the box, not in the box by avoiding car insurance bcoz its too expensive.

RIGHT JIMMY YOU MUPPET, SO YOUR TELLING ME IF I KILL SOMEONE IN MY BMW AND HAVE INSURNCE IT'S ALL GOOD.

AS LONG AS YOUR FAMILY GET PAID OUT YOU PENNY GRABBIN TRAMP

YOUR JUST JEALOUS YOU COULD WORK 3 LIFE TIMES AND NEVER AFFORD A CAR LIKE THAT

Why do people think it's about jealousy? I live in a nice area, drive a nice car and I could probably buy a Ferrari if I wanted, but I don't wish to.

However, Insurance isn't about money grabbing victims, it's about protection for the law abiding motorist.

I suspect that if you're happy to break the law by driving without insurance, then you're probably quite likely to break the law in other ways as well.

I'm just glad I don't have such a feeble mind that I want to drive around in a car I can't afford to insure just to show some face.

Well said, jimmyblue.
I'm always baffled by the mentality and lack of self-esteem shown by the people who have to resort to ostentatious displays of wealth to prove that they are 'somebody'. I feel sorry for them.
"YOUR JUST JEALOUS YOU COULD WORK 3 LIFE TIMES AND NEVER AFFORD A CAR LIKE THAT"
Even if I could, why would I want to? That car would finance hospital equipment, eye-operations, and the digging of wells. That car could save so many lives, and dry so many tears. But the dumb idiots that drive it would rather ponce about living it large and trying to prove themselves. Get real. That car is not going to make your man-bits any bigger.

spinnekop wrote:
About time this area was specificly targeted and it looks like the results speak for themselves...

The population living in this area have no respect for British law, customs or the way of life.

And if saying that makes me a racist then look at the figures and tell me I am wrong.

Like many many people I have ALWAYS made sure my vehicles are taxed, tested and insured and I am sick to the eye teeth of these people taking liberties.

A friend of mine has moved house and is facing an almost tripling in the cost of his insurance because people like this. The police should continue to target this area untill every last one of these people are brought to book and the penalties should be much much higher.

Yes , you are absolutely correct , lets target this area and get them off the roads , these lawless BD9 people , they have no respect for the law.
OOPs , SORRY didn't realise it was on Tong Street . STOP , REWIND. Forget what i said. It must have been a one off rogue vehicle because people in BD4 are all law abiding citizens , everyone one of them from Bierley to Holme Wood.
LOL

AdilT wrote:
i must be speaking a complete alien language which part of english isnt anyone understanding. if this article is false what does that mean let me see its means that this article is simply not true must be rocket science this,therfore this discussin is still yet again pointless your words do not make a diffrence your not going to change anything here criminals will carrry on creating crime so do something usefull and place your comments in the right section where there needs to be changes for example where people are actually getting done for drugs an there evidence to it your opinions would fit perfrectly there.

the education system seems to be holding up if nothing else.

I applaud the Police in their crackdown on illegal drivers with their high tec gadetry. But on another note i have reported to them on a number of occasions about a car that has had no road tax since the end of Febuary, are they not interested as it is not a £90,000 super car but a £500 banger. This is disgraceful all cars no matter what the worth should be impounded for 7 days then crushed as it is obvious they have no intention of abiding by the laws about insurance, road tax and MOT.

PTN wrote:

spinnekop wrote:
About time this area was specificly targeted and it looks like the results speak for themselves...

The population living in this area have no respect for British law, customs or the way of life.

And if saying that makes me a racist then look at the figures and tell me I am wrong.

Like many many people I have ALWAYS made sure my vehicles are taxed, tested and insured and I am sick to the eye teeth of these people taking liberties.

A friend of mine has moved house and is facing an almost tripling in the cost of his insurance because people like this. The police should continue to target this area untill every last one of these people are brought to book and the penalties should be much much higher.

Yes , you are absolutely correct , lets target this area and get them off the roads , these lawless BD9 people , they have no respect for the law.
OOPs , SORRY didn't realise it was on Tong Street . STOP , REWIND. Forget what i said. It must have been a one off rogue vehicle because people in BD4 are all law abiding citizens , everyone one of them from Bierley to Holme Wood.
LOL

So, because this piece of Italian junk was stopped on Tong St, it's owner must live in Bierley or Holmewood?????
.
The only Ferraris I've ever seen around those parts belonged to the dealers....BD4 also covers Tong village, there's at least 3 Ferraris 'live' there.
How do I know?.... I service the darn things, & under the 'sexy' body, they're junk. Just an over priced Fiat. You need long arms & short legs, offset at the hips to drive them comfortably. Give me a Porsche 911 GT3 anyday. :-)

Yorkie1963 wrote:
I applaud the Police in their crackdown on illegal drivers with their high tec gadetry. But on another note i have reported to them on a number of occasions about a car that has had no road tax since the end of Febuary, are they not interested as it is not a £90,000 super car but a £500 banger. This is disgraceful all cars no matter what the worth should be impounded for 7 days then crushed as it is obvious they have no intention of abiding by the laws about insurance, road tax and MOT.

The Police dont prosecute for road tax , thats the job of the DVLA. If you report it to the Police all they can do is let the DVLA know , which you can do yourself.
On another note and i,m not going to go in too much details because i don't want everyone to know the loopholes but unless the Police stop a car with a driver their hands are tied as to what action they can take with regards to seizing vehicles etc. We need to put pressure on the Government to change the laws so that seizing a vehicle is simple , regardless of whether someone is with it or not.
Finally i know the Police have made a big issue with this Ferrari but beleive me , they are seizing vehicles every single day , not just the one Ferrari.

mousey10 wrote:

PTN wrote:

spinnekop wrote:
About time this area was specificly targeted and it looks like the results speak for themselves...

The population living in this area have no respect for British law, customs or the way of life.

And if saying that makes me a racist then look at the figures and tell me I am wrong.

Like many many people I have ALWAYS made sure my vehicles are taxed, tested and insured and I am sick to the eye teeth of these people taking liberties.

A friend of mine has moved house and is facing an almost tripling in the cost of his insurance because people like this. The police should continue to target this area untill every last one of these people are brought to book and the penalties should be much much higher.

Yes , you are absolutely correct , lets target this area and get them off the roads , these lawless BD9 people , they have no respect for the law.
OOPs , SORRY didn't realise it was on Tong Street . STOP , REWIND. Forget what i said. It must have been a one off rogue vehicle because people in BD4 are all law abiding citizens , everyone one of them from Bierley to Holme Wood.
LOL

So, because this piece of Italian junk was stopped on Tong St, it's owner must live in Bierley or Holmewood?????
.
The only Ferraris I've ever seen around those parts belonged to the dealers....BD4 also covers Tong village, there's at least 3 Ferraris 'live' there.
How do I know?.... I service the darn things, & under the 'sexy' body, they're junk. Just an over priced Fiat. You need long arms & short legs, offset at the hips to drive them comfortably. Give me a Porsche 911 GT3 anyday. :-)

Just like spinnekop made an assumption that the driver was from BD9 , i did the same , made an assumption , and it was probably wrong just like spinnekop.
Thats my point.
LOL

PTN wrote:

Yorkie1963 wrote: I applaud the Police in their crackdown on illegal drivers with their high tec gadetry. But on another note i have reported to them on a number of occasions about a car that has had no road tax since the end of Febuary, are they not interested as it is not a £90,000 super car but a £500 banger. This is disgraceful all cars no matter what the worth should be impounded for 7 days then crushed as it is obvious they have no intention of abiding by the laws about insurance, road tax and MOT.

The Police dont prosecute for road tax , thats the job of the DVLA. If you report it to the Police all they can do is let the DVLA know , which you can do yourself. On another note and i,m not going to go in too much details because i don't want everyone to know the loopholes but unless the Police stop a car with a driver their hands are tied as to what action they can take with regards to seizing vehicles etc. We need to put pressure on the Government to change the laws so that seizing a vehicle is simple , regardless of whether someone is with it or not. Finally i know the Police have made a big issue with this Ferrari but beleive me , they are seizing vehicles every single day , not just the one Ferrari.

I know it was not just the one car but a string of cars that they stopped. The DVLA also know of the car i mentioned they have been told 5 times but still nothing is done. The guy just flauts the law. And put his children in danger as he regulary takes them out in it. Maybe the Police are unable to anything but it is totally wrong and they should be able to do something.

Where did you get the fine information f
from T and A do you know something ?

The maximum fine for driving without insurance which is means tested ( could afford a ferrari ?) can be up to £5000 it also carries 6-8 points and an instand driving ban can be imposed

Yorkie1963 wrote:

PTN wrote:

Yorkie1963 wrote: I applaud the Police in their crackdown on illegal drivers with their high tec gadetry. But on another note i have reported to them on a number of occasions about a car that has had no road tax since the end of Febuary, are they not interested as it is not a £90,000 super car but a £500 banger. This is disgraceful all cars no matter what the worth should be impounded for 7 days then crushed as it is obvious they have no intention of abiding by the laws about insurance, road tax and MOT.

The Police dont prosecute for road tax , thats the job of the DVLA. If you report it to the Police all they can do is let the DVLA know , which you can do yourself. On another note and i,m not going to go in too much details because i don't want everyone to know the loopholes but unless the Police stop a car with a driver their hands are tied as to what action they can take with regards to seizing vehicles etc. We need to put pressure on the Government to change the laws so that seizing a vehicle is simple , regardless of whether someone is with it or not. Finally i know the Police have made a big issue with this Ferrari but beleive me , they are seizing vehicles every single day , not just the one Ferrari.

I know it was not just the one car but a string of cars that they stopped. The DVLA also know of the car i mentioned they have been told 5 times but still nothing is done. The guy just flauts the law. And put his children in danger as he regulary takes them out in it. Maybe the Police are unable to anything but it is totally wrong and they should be able to do something.

I have checked up on no road tax and if a car has no road tax then there is no valid insurance to go with the car then that means they are breaking the law and the Police can do something about it but alas they dont. Any wonder the criminal element like to use the BD3 and BD4 areas as its a "please yourself area"

Yorkie1963..........
"I have checked up on no road tax and if a car has no road tax then there is no valid insurance to go with the car then that means they are breaking the law and the Police can do something about it but alas they dont. Any wonder the criminal element like to use the BD3 and BD4 areas as its a "please yourself area"".............I have looked at the small print on my Aviva and Zurich policies and I can't find anything which states my vehicle has to be either taxed or MOT'd, it says it should be roadworthy but not having MOT doesn't mean it's not.

So what your saying is we should all drive about with no road tax or MOT's just as long as we think the car is road worthy its ok??? Get real a friend was prosicuted for not having a valid road fund licence and was also charged with no valid insurance as the lack of road fund licence invalidated any insurance. Check with your insurers and they will tell you the same...

Ferengi's the lot of 'em.

Yorkie1963 wrote:
So what your saying is we should all drive about with no road tax or MOT's just as long as we think the car is road worthy its ok??? Get real a friend was prosicuted for not having a valid road fund licence and was also charged with no valid insurance as the lack of road fund licence invalidated any insurance. Check with your insurers and they will tell you the same...

No I didn't say that, I just said that there is no mention of it on my terms and conditions which to me proves that you are wrong. Just because I made that point does not mean that I am encouraging anyone to drive without tax but what I am saying is that the penalties are not as you suggest.

Can anyone tell me when the scrapping of the car is going to be and if it is a public event:would love to attend and watch this super Fiat turned into Italian tomato tins.

Anyone taking a video would get hundreds of thousands of hits on you-tube.

Now there's an idea for the police: get the scrapping of it on you -tube to tell the word what happens to cars without tax,insurance or Mot

Darbees wrote:

Yorkie1963 wrote: So what your saying is we should all drive about with no road tax or MOT's just as long as we think the car is road worthy its ok??? Get real a friend was prosicuted for not having a valid road fund licence and was also charged with no valid insurance as the lack of road fund licence invalidated any insurance. Check with your insurers and they will tell you the same...

No I didn't say that, I just said that there is no mention of it on my terms and conditions which to me proves that you are wrong. Just because I made that point does not mean that I am encouraging anyone to drive without tax but what I am saying is that the penalties are not as you suggest.

Sorry must have misread what you put. You must be one of the lucky ones as my insurers wont insure a car with no road tax or MOT and if they find out at a later date it is as the above then they wont provide any insurance claims and report it to the police. It just annoys me that nothing can or is been done to stop all this. There should be a mandantory £5000 fine banned from driving and possible prison term for those who choose to ignore this. Dont you agree?

Firstly i would like to say there is good and bad in every colour and creed; you obviously see the bad of the people you are around and the job that i am in i see the bad in all the people which i am around but you dont sweep everyone with the same brush.
Secondly comment made by someone saying
"young people driving big cars u do the maths..."
just because someone young is driving a big fancy car dont just assume its financed from drugs i know of alot of young people sriving fancy cars which belong to their father or brothers who are successfull businessmen and the car is on finance or contract hire which is due to go back in a year or twos time; anyone can afford it if you set your priorities right; i left school at the age of 16 with a goal in mind in 5 years to own a new bmw convertible; living at home no board to pay putting £100 a week aside what alot of youngsters spend on drink on what they call a good weekend; i owned a 2 year old bmw not ashamed to say damage repaired hence why it was cheap insured using my fathers 5 no claims him being the main driver again worked 5 more years in which time sold the bmw working some days upto 15 hours a day 7 days a week now 5 years on still living at home but i own a 01 plate porsche carrera convertible just because i am young and own something flash doesnt mean to say i've sold drugs to obtain it; DON'T JUST JUDGE PEOPLE.
And as far as no insurance of the ferrari goes i dont think the driver if he owned the car would have been so stupid to drive without insurance; it could well have been that there was a hick up with the hick up with the insurance company& police records or then again possibly could have forgotten to renew his insurance i have known police as i have a few policemen friends to recover a car for no insurance even though the car was insured on hire but a friend of the hirer decided to move it off double yellow lines as told to do so by police whilst his friend went into a bank and after he did he was asked to provide insurance, because he wasnt insured they recovered the car which in that case again was a ferrari too. Anyway the driver will know better as to what the actual truth is but if anyone thinks they can drive without insurance and thinking they won't get caught they are wrong they've more chance with winning the lottery. I still believe the actual car will have been insured but the driver of this ferrari not insured to drive it ie. It might have been his friends, relatives what he decided to drive whilst they sat on side of him

Fuj19831 wrote:
Firstly i would like to say there is good and bad in every colour and creed; you obviously see the bad of the people you are around and the job that i am in i see the bad in all the people which i am around but you dont sweep everyone with the same brush.
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"young people driving big cars u do the maths..."
just because someone young is driving a big fancy car dont just assume its financed from drugs i know of alot of young people sriving fancy cars which belong to their father or brothers who are successfull businessmen and the car is on finance or contract hire which is due to go back in a year or twos time; anyone can afford it if you set your priorities right; i left school at the age of 16 with a goal in mind in 5 years to own a new bmw convertible; living at home no board to pay putting £100 a week aside what alot of youngsters spend on drink on what they call a good weekend; i owned a 2 year old bmw not ashamed to say damage repaired hence why it was cheap insured using my fathers 5 no claims him being the main driver again worked 5 more years in which time sold the bmw working some days upto 15 hours a day 7 days a week now 5 years on still living at home but i own a 01 plate porsche carrera convertible just because i am young and own something flash doesnt mean to say i've sold drugs to obtain it; DON'T JUST JUDGE PEOPLE.
And as far as no insurance of the ferrari goes i dont think the driver if he owned the car would have been so stupid to drive without insurance; it could well have been that there was a hick up with the hick up with the insurance company& police records or then again possibly could have forgotten to renew his insurance i have known police as i have a few policemen friends to recover a car for no insurance even though the car was insured on hire but a friend of the hirer decided to move it off double yellow lines as told to do so by police whilst his friend went into a bank and after he did he was asked to provide insurance, because he wasnt insured they recovered the car which in that case again was a ferrari too. Anyway the driver will know better as to what the actual truth is but if anyone thinks they can drive without insurance and thinking they won't get caught they are wrong they've more chance with winning the lottery. I still believe the actual car will have been insured but the driver of this ferrari not insured to drive it ie. It might have been his friends, relatives what he decided to drive whilst they sat on side of him

This quoted post indicates yet another example of our failing education standards.

Fuji......"It might have been his friends, relatives what he decided to drive whilst they sat on side of him"..... Had that been the case the car shouldn't have been seized as the owner would prove it was insured for himself but the police would have done the driver for no insurance and maybe the owner for aiding and abetting.