Campaign to combat knife crime seeks Bradford ambassador

PLEA: Clive Knowles, chairman of the British Ironwork Centre, with knife crime victims’ relatives Lisa Minott, mother of Fusilier David Lee Collins, and Lisa McNeil, mother of Danny Jones, and her friend Michelle McHale

PLEA: Clive Knowles, chairman of the British Ironwork Centre, with knife crime victims’ relatives Lisa Minott, mother of Fusilier David Lee Collins, and Lisa McNeil, mother of Danny Jones, and her friend Michelle McHale

First published in News Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , Crime Reporter

THE organisers of a new initiative to combat knife crime are looking for an ambassador to lead the campaign in the Bradford district.

'Save a Life, Surrender Your Knife', launched in Birmingham on Friday, aims to bring together anti-knife campaigners across the country to reduce the number of weapons on the streets and make communities safer.

A team from Shropshire-based metalwork firm the British Ironwork Centre, which is leading the campaign, will be touring British cities, providing knife banks and talking to young people to persuade them to surrender their weapons.

The knives will then be used as part of a Knife Angel sculpture, in memory of those who have lost their lives to knife crime.

The campaign is being backed by victims' mothers, including Lisa Minott, mother of Fusilier David Lee Collins, 18, who was stabbed to death outside a nightclub in Cyprus, and Lisa McNeil, mother of Danny Jones, 21, who was stabbed with a replica Lord of the Rings sword in Oswestry, North Wales.

The company's chairman, Clive Knowles, said the tour was likely to reach Bradford early next year.

He said: "We need an ambassador, who knows the communities in Bradford, to help us. The chances are there will be someone in Bradford who has a story to tell and wants to stop it happening to somebody else.

"I would dearly like to speak to any group or individual on behalf of Bradford who can offer us support."

The firm specialises in creating statues of social benefit and decided knife crime was an issue to be highlighted.

Mr Knowles they had pledged to provide 150 knife banks and was grateful to the Home Office for raising awareness of its campaign.

A Home Office spokesman said: "We support all initiatives tackling knife crime. People working in our knife crime unit have met the organisers of this initiative.

"Knife crime causes misery for victims and can wreck whole communities. That is why the unlawful possession of a bladed or pointed article or offensive weapon is already a serious criminal offence, carrying a maximum custodial sentence of four years.

"We have created a new offence of aggravated knife possession for those who carry a knife in a public place or in a school and go on to threaten and cause an immediate risk of serious physical harm to another person. This offence carries a minimum sentence of six months' imprisonment for an adult and a four-month detention and training order for a 16 or 17-year-old.

"The Government is also considering whether there is a case for further changes to be made to the sentencing framework for knife possession."

Anyone from Bradford who wants to support the initiative can contact the centre on freephone 0800 975 5717.

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8:35am Mon 25 Aug 14

llos25 says...

My bread knife is a lethal weapon so are you going to ban it ,any knifes given during an amnesty can be replaced in minutes its a pointless exercise.
My bread knife is a lethal weapon so are you going to ban it ,any knifes given during an amnesty can be replaced in minutes its a pointless exercise. llos25
  • Score: 7

8:53am Mon 25 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

A Knife Ambassador? Well we had a real Ambassador in Bradford last week from Israel and our councillors chose to snub him, belittle him and , and the thrust papers upon his person demanding he take them back to his government . Who would want to be any kind of Ambassador in Bradford?
A Curry Ambassador? perhaps he would not be abused in a shameful manner.
A Knife Ambassador? Well we had a real Ambassador in Bradford last week from Israel and our councillors chose to snub him, belittle him and , and the thrust papers upon his person demanding he take them back to his government . Who would want to be any kind of Ambassador in Bradford? A Curry Ambassador? perhaps he would not be abused in a shameful manner. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: -21

9:21am Mon 25 Aug 14

OLDLAD says...

Start with the politicians as they are the biggest back stabbers going.
Start with the politicians as they are the biggest back stabbers going. OLDLAD
  • Score: 13

9:58am Mon 25 Aug 14

bluebluerobin says...

Blades are two a penny. This is just a cheap stunt, City Hall and the ruling Labour Group trying to give the impression that they are doing something. The only way to stop knife crime is to stop the people who wield the knives.
Blades are two a penny. This is just a cheap stunt, City Hall and the ruling Labour Group trying to give the impression that they are doing something. The only way to stop knife crime is to stop the people who wield the knives. bluebluerobin
  • Score: 12

11:00am Mon 25 Aug 14

Albion. says...

These amnesties happen every few years and achieve nothing, isn't it a fact that the majority of stabbings are carried out using kitchen knives?
These amnesties happen every few years and achieve nothing, isn't it a fact that the majority of stabbings are carried out using kitchen knives? Albion.
  • Score: 9

11:05am Mon 25 Aug 14

bachtothefuture says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
A Knife Ambassador? Well we had a real Ambassador in Bradford last week from Israel and our councillors chose to snub him, belittle him and , and the thrust papers upon his person demanding he take them back to his government . Who would want to be any kind of Ambassador in Bradford?
A Curry Ambassador? perhaps he would not be abused in a shameful manner.
We're supposed to have a Curry Ambassador in the shape of Cllr Hinchcliffe whose total failure to promote our Curry Capital status, one of Bradford's few plus points, has not gone unnoticed.
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: A Knife Ambassador? Well we had a real Ambassador in Bradford last week from Israel and our councillors chose to snub him, belittle him and , and the thrust papers upon his person demanding he take them back to his government . Who would want to be any kind of Ambassador in Bradford? A Curry Ambassador? perhaps he would not be abused in a shameful manner.[/p][/quote]We're supposed to have a Curry Ambassador in the shape of Cllr Hinchcliffe whose total failure to promote our Curry Capital status, one of Bradford's few plus points, has not gone unnoticed. bachtothefuture
  • Score: 15

11:23am Mon 25 Aug 14

baildongreen says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
A Knife Ambassador? Well we had a real Ambassador in Bradford last week from Israel and our councillors chose to snub him, belittle him and , and the thrust papers upon his person demanding he take them back to his government . Who would want to be any kind of Ambassador in Bradford?
A Curry Ambassador? perhaps he would not be abused in a shameful manner.
I agree. I hope Cllrs Green, Hinchcliffe and Slater are feeling thoroughly ashamed of themselves. There is no difference between Palestinian Hamas and the murderous IS thugs. The Council's support for Islam undermines our Country's security and way of life.
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: A Knife Ambassador? Well we had a real Ambassador in Bradford last week from Israel and our councillors chose to snub him, belittle him and , and the thrust papers upon his person demanding he take them back to his government . Who would want to be any kind of Ambassador in Bradford? A Curry Ambassador? perhaps he would not be abused in a shameful manner.[/p][/quote]I agree. I hope Cllrs Green, Hinchcliffe and Slater are feeling thoroughly ashamed of themselves. There is no difference between Palestinian Hamas and the murderous IS thugs. The Council's support for Islam undermines our Country's security and way of life. baildongreen
  • Score: 5

1:04pm Mon 25 Aug 14

Robin of Loxley says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
A Knife Ambassador? Well we had a real Ambassador in Bradford last week from Israel and our councillors chose to snub him, belittle him and , and the thrust papers upon his person demanding he take them back to his government . Who would want to be any kind of Ambassador in Bradford?
A Curry Ambassador? perhaps he would not be abused in a shameful manner.
Snubbing those who support vile Israeli terror should be applauded.
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: A Knife Ambassador? Well we had a real Ambassador in Bradford last week from Israel and our councillors chose to snub him, belittle him and , and the thrust papers upon his person demanding he take them back to his government . Who would want to be any kind of Ambassador in Bradford? A Curry Ambassador? perhaps he would not be abused in a shameful manner.[/p][/quote]Snubbing those who support vile Israeli terror should be applauded. Robin of Loxley
  • Score: 44

1:26pm Mon 25 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
A Knife Ambassador? Well we had a real Ambassador in Bradford last week from Israel and our councillors chose to snub him, belittle him and , and the thrust papers upon his person demanding he take them back to his government . Who would want to be any kind of Ambassador in Bradford?
A Curry Ambassador? perhaps he would not be abused in a shameful manner.
Snubbing those who support vile Israeli terror should be applauded.
Manipulating the votes again I see. Like a true Sunni.
I love Israel. They make me laugh too, I never laughed so much as when I saw those picture of Sheikh Ahmed Yassin in his flying wheelchair. Ho Ho. He looked a bit of a mess when he met his virgins. Head and Shoulders, he got what he preached.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: A Knife Ambassador? Well we had a real Ambassador in Bradford last week from Israel and our councillors chose to snub him, belittle him and , and the thrust papers upon his person demanding he take them back to his government . Who would want to be any kind of Ambassador in Bradford? A Curry Ambassador? perhaps he would not be abused in a shameful manner.[/p][/quote]Snubbing those who support vile Israeli terror should be applauded.[/p][/quote]Manipulating the votes again I see. Like a true Sunni. I love Israel. They make me laugh too, I never laughed so much as when I saw those picture of Sheikh Ahmed Yassin in his flying wheelchair. Ho Ho. He looked a bit of a mess when he met his virgins. Head and Shoulders, he got what he preached. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: -31

1:36pm Mon 25 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

Fellow users. Dont bother voting yes or no on these sites. Just allow "Robin of Loxley" to gather up your votes and post them his self. He is a dab hand at voting fraud . . . its "the community" they just cant help it.
I believe he is also a consultant for crash for cash and money-washing to, he comes highly recommended.
Fellow users. Dont bother voting yes or no on these sites. Just allow "Robin of Loxley" to gather up your votes and post them his self. He is a dab hand at voting fraud . . . its "the community" they just cant help it. I believe he is also a consultant for crash for cash and money-washing to, he comes highly recommended. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: -20

1:54pm Mon 25 Aug 14

mustnotgrumble says...

Snub? Belittle? Is that all a jewish ambassador experienced. Maybe if he took a dose of his own medicine, kill children, women, steal their land, imprison 1.8million indiginous human beings for 60years. Ignore international u.n resolutions. Starve, use chemical phosporous bombs, US&UK Provided heavy weapons, Billions dollars funding for jewish barbarity. Shame on any human who can remotely justify jewish ethnic cleansing in PALESTINE. Add insult to injury the jews blame innocent civilians for their own killings. The jews hav gone full circle what hitler supposedly did to them they now doing themselves. Jews crossed into Palestinian land to attack, kill, murder anyone in sight. Is it ok for a british jewish resident to go there and kill under the IDF pretence? NO. When will our Foreign minister have his family arrested for "Terrorism" offences? Remember the words impartiality&fairnes
s!!
Snub? Belittle? Is that all a jewish ambassador experienced. Maybe if he took a dose of his own medicine, kill children, women, steal their land, imprison 1.8million indiginous human beings for 60years. Ignore international u.n resolutions. Starve, use chemical phosporous bombs, US&UK Provided heavy weapons, Billions dollars funding for jewish barbarity. Shame on any human who can remotely justify jewish ethnic cleansing in PALESTINE. Add insult to injury the jews blame innocent civilians for their own killings. The jews hav gone full circle what hitler supposedly did to them they now doing themselves. Jews crossed into Palestinian land to attack, kill, murder anyone in sight. Is it ok for a british jewish resident to go there and kill under the IDF pretence? NO. When will our Foreign minister have his family arrested for "Terrorism" offences? Remember the words impartiality&fairnes s!! mustnotgrumble
  • Score: 27

2:04pm Mon 25 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

mustnotgrumble wrote:
Snub? Belittle? Is that all a jewish ambassador experienced. Maybe if he took a dose of his own medicine, kill children, women, steal their land, imprison 1.8million indiginous human beings for 60years. Ignore international u.n resolutions. Starve, use chemical phosporous bombs, US&UK Provided heavy weapons, Billions dollars funding for jewish barbarity. Shame on any human who can remotely justify jewish ethnic cleansing in PALESTINE. Add insult to injury the jews blame innocent civilians for their own killings. The jews hav gone full circle what hitler supposedly did to them they now doing themselves. Jews crossed into Palestinian land to attack, kill, murder anyone in sight. Is it ok for a british jewish resident to go there and kill under the IDF pretence? NO. When will our Foreign minister have his family arrested for "Terrorism" offences? Remember the words impartiality&fai
rnes
s!!
Sorry, our land in Yorkshire has been settled and stolen by Pakistani Sunni Muslims. They have created No-Go areas. Am I supposed to feel empathy with them? No. The words Isreali vile scum are often used here. How about Pakistani Pashtun Sunni Vile Scum? I like that.
[quote][p][bold]mustnotgrumble[/bold] wrote: Snub? Belittle? Is that all a jewish ambassador experienced. Maybe if he took a dose of his own medicine, kill children, women, steal their land, imprison 1.8million indiginous human beings for 60years. Ignore international u.n resolutions. Starve, use chemical phosporous bombs, US&UK Provided heavy weapons, Billions dollars funding for jewish barbarity. Shame on any human who can remotely justify jewish ethnic cleansing in PALESTINE. Add insult to injury the jews blame innocent civilians for their own killings. The jews hav gone full circle what hitler supposedly did to them they now doing themselves. Jews crossed into Palestinian land to attack, kill, murder anyone in sight. Is it ok for a british jewish resident to go there and kill under the IDF pretence? NO. When will our Foreign minister have his family arrested for "Terrorism" offences? Remember the words impartiality&fai rnes s!![/p][/quote]Sorry, our land in Yorkshire has been settled and stolen by Pakistani Sunni Muslims. They have created No-Go areas. Am I supposed to feel empathy with them? No. The words Isreali vile scum are often used here. How about Pakistani Pashtun Sunni Vile Scum? I like that. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: -6

2:09pm Mon 25 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

Duplicious Pakistanis, taking our billions in aid, spending it on arms that they then hand to rerrorists.
Where is Bin Laden? we asked, we dont know says Pakistan, yet he is living next door to the Army Training School. Could not trust these people with a water pistol.
Duplicious Pakistanis, taking our billions in aid, spending it on arms that they then hand to rerrorists. Where is Bin Laden? we asked, we dont know says Pakistan, yet he is living next door to the Army Training School. Could not trust these people with a water pistol. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: -22

2:27pm Mon 25 Aug 14

RAN-BFD says...

The knife amnesty is all very laudable and I'm not against it in principle, but there is no substitute for swingeing prison sentences for holders of knives without reason despite what the bleeding hearts from the Penal Reform might well say.
The knife amnesty is all very laudable and I'm not against it in principle, but there is no substitute for swingeing prison sentences for holders of knives without reason despite what the bleeding hearts from the Penal Reform might well say. RAN-BFD
  • Score: 24

2:39pm Mon 25 Aug 14

mustnotgrumble says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
mustnotgrumble wrote:
Snub? Belittle? Is that all a jewish ambassador experienced. Maybe if he took a dose of his own medicine, kill children, women, steal their land, imprison 1.8million indiginous human beings for 60years. Ignore international u.n resolutions. Starve, use chemical phosporous bombs, US&UK Provided heavy weapons, Billions dollars funding for jewish barbarity. Shame on any human who can remotely justify jewish ethnic cleansing in PALESTINE. Add insult to injury the jews blame innocent civilians for their own killings. The jews hav gone full circle what hitler supposedly did to them they now doing themselves. Jews crossed into Palestinian land to attack, kill, murder anyone in sight. Is it ok for a british jewish resident to go there and kill under the IDF pretence? NO. When will our Foreign minister have his family arrested for "Terrorism" offences? Remember the words impartiality&fai

rnes
s!!
Sorry, our land in Yorkshire has been settled and stolen by Pakistani Sunni Muslims. They have created No-Go areas. Am I supposed to feel empathy with them? No. The words Isreali vile scum are often used here. How about Pakistani Pashtun Sunni Vile Scum? I like that.
Looking at you're username i can only assume u hav left. Seemingly u hav not given any credible answer to any point i made. These supposed pakistanis are British born, UK residents whose previous generations helped fight& sacrificed their lives so u could hav a better life during both world wars. Look up the truth.. They were invited here by the British to do the menial jobs u didnt wish to after plundering all the wealth from "commonwealth" India. Highly possible u are anglo saxon which makes u exactly same as them. Just seems sad u seem to jump from one subject to another when making totally unsubstantiated ludicrous which
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mustnotgrumble[/bold] wrote: Snub? Belittle? Is that all a jewish ambassador experienced. Maybe if he took a dose of his own medicine, kill children, women, steal their land, imprison 1.8million indiginous human beings for 60years. Ignore international u.n resolutions. Starve, use chemical phosporous bombs, US&UK Provided heavy weapons, Billions dollars funding for jewish barbarity. Shame on any human who can remotely justify jewish ethnic cleansing in PALESTINE. Add insult to injury the jews blame innocent civilians for their own killings. The jews hav gone full circle what hitler supposedly did to them they now doing themselves. Jews crossed into Palestinian land to attack, kill, murder anyone in sight. Is it ok for a british jewish resident to go there and kill under the IDF pretence? NO. When will our Foreign minister have his family arrested for "Terrorism" offences? Remember the words impartiality&fai rnes s!![/p][/quote]Sorry, our land in Yorkshire has been settled and stolen by Pakistani Sunni Muslims. They have created No-Go areas. Am I supposed to feel empathy with them? No. The words Isreali vile scum are often used here. How about Pakistani Pashtun Sunni Vile Scum? I like that.[/p][/quote]Looking at you're username i can only assume u hav left. Seemingly u hav not given any credible answer to any point i made. These supposed pakistanis are British born, UK residents whose previous generations helped fight& sacrificed their lives so u could hav a better life during both world wars. Look up the truth.. They were invited here by the British to do the menial jobs u didnt wish to after plundering all the wealth from "commonwealth" India. Highly possible u are anglo saxon which makes u exactly same as them. Just seems sad u seem to jump from one subject to another when making totally unsubstantiated ludicrous which mustnotgrumble
  • Score: 25

3:14pm Mon 25 Aug 14

Robin of Loxley says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
Fellow users. Dont bother voting yes or no on these sites. Just allow "Robin of Loxley" to gather up your votes and post them his self. He is a dab hand at voting fraud . . . its "the community" they just cant help it.
I believe he is also a consultant for crash for cash and money-washing to, he comes highly recommended.
Lol ! :D
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: Fellow users. Dont bother voting yes or no on these sites. Just allow "Robin of Loxley" to gather up your votes and post them his self. He is a dab hand at voting fraud . . . its "the community" they just cant help it. I believe he is also a consultant for crash for cash and money-washing to, he comes highly recommended.[/p][/quote]Lol ! :D Robin of Loxley
  • Score: 26

8:07pm Mon 25 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

Perhaps we could have a Knife amnesty in Iraq and Syria. Give the peace loving Sunni ISIS a chance to hand in the big knives that they use to behead innocent journalists. Oh, yes, that will work jolly well. No need for F16s.
Any word of compassion from our Manningham friends yet? Nope thought not.
Perhaps we could have a Knife amnesty in Iraq and Syria. Give the peace loving Sunni ISIS a chance to hand in the big knives that they use to behead innocent journalists. Oh, yes, that will work jolly well. No need for F16s. Any word of compassion from our Manningham friends yet? Nope thought not. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: -26

9:17pm Mon 25 Aug 14

Robin of Loxley says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
Perhaps we could have a Knife amnesty in Iraq and Syria. Give the peace loving Sunni ISIS a chance to hand in the big knives that they use to behead innocent journalists. Oh, yes, that will work jolly well. No need for F16s.
Any word of compassion from our Manningham friends yet? Nope thought not.
What's your take on vile, murderous Israeli terrorist scum who like to kill Palestinian women and children?
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: Perhaps we could have a Knife amnesty in Iraq and Syria. Give the peace loving Sunni ISIS a chance to hand in the big knives that they use to behead innocent journalists. Oh, yes, that will work jolly well. No need for F16s. Any word of compassion from our Manningham friends yet? Nope thought not.[/p][/quote]What's your take on vile, murderous Israeli terrorist scum who like to kill Palestinian women and children? Robin of Loxley
  • Score: 25

1:44am Tue 26 Aug 14

Sarah/1980 says...

If you hate yhe Pakistanis move out of bradford is the uk not big enough for your uneducated pea size brains. Yes condemn is and the zionists if it was your 1700 women and children killed for the sale of 3 lives you would know. Hard preachers are living in bradford i think so pls dont point the fingers at others apart from curry what have u got to show for bardford your chavvy lifestyles of boozing and smoking and dole dossing
If you hate yhe Pakistanis move out of bradford is the uk not big enough for your uneducated pea size brains. Yes condemn is and the zionists if it was your 1700 women and children killed for the sale of 3 lives you would know. Hard preachers are living in bradford i think so pls dont point the fingers at others apart from curry what have u got to show for bardford your chavvy lifestyles of boozing and smoking and dole dossing Sarah/1980
  • Score: -7

1:45am Tue 26 Aug 14

Sarah/1980 says...

Bradford needs to educate the white people on the own heritage and culture ooops we can't do that they haven't got a clue what it is
Bradford needs to educate the white people on the own heritage and culture ooops we can't do that they haven't got a clue what it is Sarah/1980
  • Score: -5

7:12am Tue 26 Aug 14

Albion. says...

Sarah/1980 wrote:
If you hate yhe Pakistanis move out of bradford is the uk not big enough for your uneducated pea size brains. Yes condemn is and the zionists if it was your 1700 women and children killed for the sale of 3 lives you would know. Hard preachers are living in bradford i think so pls dont point the fingers at others apart from curry what have u got to show for bardford your chavvy lifestyles of boozing and smoking and dole dossing
People have been leaving in vast numbers over the last half century or more, doesn't that tell you something? Who do you think created the utopia of Bradford before the Pakistani's came along? Some of us don't drink or smoke and aren't on the dole (those in the sh!tty areas like yours might well).
[quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: If you hate yhe Pakistanis move out of bradford is the uk not big enough for your uneducated pea size brains. Yes condemn is and the zionists if it was your 1700 women and children killed for the sale of 3 lives you would know. Hard preachers are living in bradford i think so pls dont point the fingers at others apart from curry what have u got to show for bardford your chavvy lifestyles of boozing and smoking and dole dossing[/p][/quote]People have been leaving in vast numbers over the last half century or more, doesn't that tell you something? Who do you think created the utopia of Bradford before the Pakistani's came along? Some of us don't drink or smoke and aren't on the dole (those in the sh!tty areas like yours might well). Albion.
  • Score: 9

7:21am Tue 26 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

Sarah/1980 wrote:
If you hate yhe Pakistanis move out of bradford is the uk not big enough for your uneducated pea size brains. Yes condemn is and the zionists if it was your 1700 women and children killed for the sale of 3 lives you would know. Hard preachers are living in bradford i think so pls dont point the fingers at others apart from curry what have u got to show for bardford your chavvy lifestyles of boozing and smoking and dole dossing
Sarah. Read my Tag Name. "LeftLongAgo" - is that difficult to understand?
Chavvy lifestyle.. Hhhhm, I live in Fuessen on The German/Austrian Border. Yes, it is so Chavvy here in the Süd Tirol! Chavvy Mountains, Chavvy Valleys, Chavvy Farms, Chavvy Castles, Chavvy Rivers and Streams. Chavvy Heaven. No Burkas though. Opus Dei!
[quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: If you hate yhe Pakistanis move out of bradford is the uk not big enough for your uneducated pea size brains. Yes condemn is and the zionists if it was your 1700 women and children killed for the sale of 3 lives you would know. Hard preachers are living in bradford i think so pls dont point the fingers at others apart from curry what have u got to show for bardford your chavvy lifestyles of boozing and smoking and dole dossing[/p][/quote]Sarah. Read my Tag Name. "LeftLongAgo" - is that difficult to understand? Chavvy lifestyle.. Hhhhm, I live in Fuessen on The German/Austrian Border. Yes, it is so Chavvy here in the Süd Tirol! Chavvy Mountains, Chavvy Valleys, Chavvy Farms, Chavvy Castles, Chavvy Rivers and Streams. Chavvy Heaven. No Burkas though. Opus Dei! LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 5

7:55am Tue 26 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

Sarah/1980, by the way - your style/way of writing English seems rather "chavvy", or could it be that English is not the first language spoken in your home? I was just wondering.
Sarah/1980, by the way - your style/way of writing English seems rather "chavvy", or could it be that English is not the first language spoken in your home? I was just wondering. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 8

10:28am Tue 26 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

Sarah/1980.
Raise your eyes from the pavment/street level, and look at the architecture of Bradford City Centre that is all around you. Can you not see what a beautiful and affluent city this was until the 1950s and 60s? Who built these fantastic buildings and generated the wealth of Bradford? Was it Pakistanis? Uhh, clearly not. The history of the town is there for you and all to see. The demise of the city and the arrival of the Pakistanis - a coincidence - go figure.
Sarah/1980. Raise your eyes from the pavment/street level, and look at the architecture of Bradford City Centre that is all around you. Can you not see what a beautiful and affluent city this was until the 1950s and 60s? Who built these fantastic buildings and generated the wealth of Bradford? Was it Pakistanis? Uhh, clearly not. The history of the town is there for you and all to see. The demise of the city and the arrival of the Pakistanis - a coincidence - go figure. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 9

11:17am Tue 26 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
Perhaps we could have a Knife amnesty in Iraq and Syria. Give the peace loving Sunni ISIS a chance to hand in the big knives that they use to behead innocent journalists. Oh, yes, that will work jolly well. No need for F16s.
Any word of compassion from our Manningham friends yet? Nope thought not.
What's your take on vile, murderous Israeli terrorist scum who like to kill Palestinian women and children?
Hhhhm, Seen some of the bodies more than once. Saw a little girl who looked like she had had 4 funerals. And as for regarding men of fighting age as innocent is beyond me, just because they are wearing Levis (how ironic) it does not mean that they were not holding a gun 10 minutes beforehand. Stop firing missiles - simples. Israel even had to shut a border crossing yesterday as Hamas fired 32 mortars at it, it was open to provide aid to Palestinians. Hamas made sure it got shut as they need their own people to suffer in order for their vile (your favourite word) plans to continue. NOT SORRY ABOUT KILLING TERRORISTS. The women even openly say they want to have more children so that they can become martyrs, what type of mothers are these? Savages.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: Perhaps we could have a Knife amnesty in Iraq and Syria. Give the peace loving Sunni ISIS a chance to hand in the big knives that they use to behead innocent journalists. Oh, yes, that will work jolly well. No need for F16s. Any word of compassion from our Manningham friends yet? Nope thought not.[/p][/quote]What's your take on vile, murderous Israeli terrorist scum who like to kill Palestinian women and children?[/p][/quote]Hhhhm, Seen some of the bodies more than once. Saw a little girl who looked like she had had 4 funerals. And as for regarding men of fighting age as innocent is beyond me, just because they are wearing Levis (how ironic) it does not mean that they were not holding a gun 10 minutes beforehand. Stop firing missiles - simples. Israel even had to shut a border crossing yesterday as Hamas fired 32 mortars at it, it was open to provide aid to Palestinians. Hamas made sure it got shut as they need their own people to suffer in order for their vile (your favourite word) plans to continue. NOT SORRY ABOUT KILLING TERRORISTS. The women even openly say they want to have more children so that they can become martyrs, what type of mothers are these? Savages. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 5

11:43am Tue 26 Aug 14

BertSanders says...

Sarah/1980 wrote:
If you hate yhe Pakistanis move out of bradford is the uk not big enough for your uneducated pea size brains. Yes condemn is and the zionists if it was your 1700 women and children killed for the sale of 3 lives you would know. Hard preachers are living in bradford i think so pls dont point the fingers at others apart from curry what have u got to show for bardford your chavvy lifestyles of boozing and smoking and dole dossing
Perhaps you could translate this into English - your brain seems "pea size" too - but I get your drift - the local people should move out. There are plenty of attrocities being committed in the Middle East - and the whole area needs the attention of the United Nations and the common sense application of all religions and people of goodwill.
[quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: If you hate yhe Pakistanis move out of bradford is the uk not big enough for your uneducated pea size brains. Yes condemn is and the zionists if it was your 1700 women and children killed for the sale of 3 lives you would know. Hard preachers are living in bradford i think so pls dont point the fingers at others apart from curry what have u got to show for bardford your chavvy lifestyles of boozing and smoking and dole dossing[/p][/quote]Perhaps you could translate this into English - your brain seems "pea size" too - but I get your drift - the local people should move out. There are plenty of attrocities being committed in the Middle East - and the whole area needs the attention of the United Nations and the common sense application of all religions and people of goodwill. BertSanders
  • Score: 5

11:59am Tue 26 Aug 14

bradford88 says...

baildongreen wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
A Knife Ambassador? Well we had a real Ambassador in Bradford last week from Israel and our councillors chose to snub him, belittle him and , and the thrust papers upon his person demanding he take them back to his government . Who would want to be any kind of Ambassador in Bradford?
A Curry Ambassador? perhaps he would not be abused in a shameful manner.
I agree. I hope Cllrs Green, Hinchcliffe and Slater are feeling thoroughly ashamed of themselves. There is no difference between Palestinian Hamas and the murderous IS thugs. The Council's support for Islam undermines our Country's security and way of life.
You forgot to mention israel idf
[quote][p][bold]baildongreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: A Knife Ambassador? Well we had a real Ambassador in Bradford last week from Israel and our councillors chose to snub him, belittle him and , and the thrust papers upon his person demanding he take them back to his government . Who would want to be any kind of Ambassador in Bradford? A Curry Ambassador? perhaps he would not be abused in a shameful manner.[/p][/quote]I agree. I hope Cllrs Green, Hinchcliffe and Slater are feeling thoroughly ashamed of themselves. There is no difference between Palestinian Hamas and the murderous IS thugs. The Council's support for Islam undermines our Country's security and way of life.[/p][/quote]You forgot to mention israel idf bradford88
  • Score: 2

12:07pm Tue 26 Aug 14

bradford88 says...

Lmfao at the comments it starts of with knifes, ends with muslims palestine and israel.
Lmfao at the comments it starts of with knifes, ends with muslims palestine and israel. bradford88
  • Score: 3

12:13pm Tue 26 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

Sarah/1980 wrote:
Bradford needs to educate the white people on the own heritage and culture ooops we can't do that they haven't got a clue what it is
Sarah.
You can learn English at night school, did you know that? It would help us to understand your posts. I have checked my bookshelves and I dont seem to have a Bradfordistan to English dictionary. You may as well be typing in Pashtun.
[quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: Bradford needs to educate the white people on the own heritage and culture ooops we can't do that they haven't got a clue what it is[/p][/quote]Sarah. You can learn English at night school, did you know that? It would help us to understand your posts. I have checked my bookshelves and I dont seem to have a Bradfordistan to English dictionary. You may as well be typing in Pashtun. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 7

12:18pm Tue 26 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

BertSanders wrote:
Sarah/1980 wrote:
If you hate yhe Pakistanis move out of bradford is the uk not big enough for your uneducated pea size brains. Yes condemn is and the zionists if it was your 1700 women and children killed for the sale of 3 lives you would know. Hard preachers are living in bradford i think so pls dont point the fingers at others apart from curry what have u got to show for bardford your chavvy lifestyles of boozing and smoking and dole dossing
Perhaps you could translate this into English - your brain seems "pea size" too - but I get your drift - the local people should move out. There are plenty of attrocities being committed in the Middle East - and the whole area needs the attention of the United Nations and the common sense application of all religions and people of goodwill.
Yes. Seems like Sarah/1980 would like to ethnically cleanse the white folk from The Caliphate of Bradford.
And as for her calling us uneducated, well I have never read her type of "English" before. I wonder if she has ever read a book, other than the green covered one that reads right to left?
[quote][p][bold]BertSanders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: If you hate yhe Pakistanis move out of bradford is the uk not big enough for your uneducated pea size brains. Yes condemn is and the zionists if it was your 1700 women and children killed for the sale of 3 lives you would know. Hard preachers are living in bradford i think so pls dont point the fingers at others apart from curry what have u got to show for bardford your chavvy lifestyles of boozing and smoking and dole dossing[/p][/quote]Perhaps you could translate this into English - your brain seems "pea size" too - but I get your drift - the local people should move out. There are plenty of attrocities being committed in the Middle East - and the whole area needs the attention of the United Nations and the common sense application of all religions and people of goodwill.[/p][/quote]Yes. Seems like Sarah/1980 would like to ethnically cleanse the white folk from The Caliphate of Bradford. And as for her calling us uneducated, well I have never read her type of "English" before. I wonder if she has ever read a book, other than the green covered one that reads right to left? LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 6

12:19pm Tue 26 Aug 14

bradford88 says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
Sarah/1980 wrote:
Bradford needs to educate the white people on the own heritage and culture ooops we can't do that they haven't got a clue what it is
Sarah.
You can learn English at night school, did you know that? It would help us to understand your posts. I have checked my bookshelves and I dont seem to have a Bradfordistan to English dictionary. You may as well be typing in Pashtun.
Correct me if im wrong but did you move to germany?
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: Bradford needs to educate the white people on the own heritage and culture ooops we can't do that they haven't got a clue what it is[/p][/quote]Sarah. You can learn English at night school, did you know that? It would help us to understand your posts. I have checked my bookshelves and I dont seem to have a Bradfordistan to English dictionary. You may as well be typing in Pashtun.[/p][/quote]Correct me if im wrong but did you move to germany? bradford88
  • Score: 0

12:42pm Tue 26 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

bradford88 wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
Sarah/1980 wrote:
Bradford needs to educate the white people on the own heritage and culture ooops we can't do that they haven't got a clue what it is
Sarah.
You can learn English at night school, did you know that? It would help us to understand your posts. I have checked my bookshelves and I dont seem to have a Bradfordistan to English dictionary. You may as well be typing in Pashtun.
Correct me if im wrong but did you move to germany?
Yes. I did as Sarah/1980 commanded and ethnically cleansed myself from Bradford. Ahh, Germany.
[quote][p][bold]bradford88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: Bradford needs to educate the white people on the own heritage and culture ooops we can't do that they haven't got a clue what it is[/p][/quote]Sarah. You can learn English at night school, did you know that? It would help us to understand your posts. I have checked my bookshelves and I dont seem to have a Bradfordistan to English dictionary. You may as well be typing in Pashtun.[/p][/quote]Correct me if im wrong but did you move to germany?[/p][/quote]Yes. I did as Sarah/1980 commanded and ethnically cleansed myself from Bradford. Ahh, Germany. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 4

12:56pm Tue 26 Aug 14

bradford88 says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
bradford88 wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
Sarah/1980 wrote:
Bradford needs to educate the white people on the own heritage and culture ooops we can't do that they haven't got a clue what it is
Sarah.
You can learn English at night school, did you know that? It would help us to understand your posts. I have checked my bookshelves and I dont seem to have a Bradfordistan to English dictionary. You may as well be typing in Pashtun.
Correct me if im wrong but did you move to germany?
Yes. I did as Sarah/1980 commanded and ethnically cleansed myself from Bradford. Ahh, Germany.
Lol ok no problem :-)
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradford88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: Bradford needs to educate the white people on the own heritage and culture ooops we can't do that they haven't got a clue what it is[/p][/quote]Sarah. You can learn English at night school, did you know that? It would help us to understand your posts. I have checked my bookshelves and I dont seem to have a Bradfordistan to English dictionary. You may as well be typing in Pashtun.[/p][/quote]Correct me if im wrong but did you move to germany?[/p][/quote]Yes. I did as Sarah/1980 commanded and ethnically cleansed myself from Bradford. Ahh, Germany.[/p][/quote]Lol ok no problem :-) bradford88
  • Score: 1

4:16pm Tue 26 Aug 14

BertSanders says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
BertSanders wrote:
Sarah/1980 wrote:
If you hate yhe Pakistanis move out of bradford is the uk not big enough for your uneducated pea size brains. Yes condemn is and the zionists if it was your 1700 women and children killed for the sale of 3 lives you would know. Hard preachers are living in bradford i think so pls dont point the fingers at others apart from curry what have u got to show for bardford your chavvy lifestyles of boozing and smoking and dole dossing
Perhaps you could translate this into English - your brain seems "pea size" too - but I get your drift - the local people should move out. There are plenty of attrocities being committed in the Middle East - and the whole area needs the attention of the United Nations and the common sense application of all religions and people of goodwill.
Yes. Seems like Sarah/1980 would like to ethnically cleanse the white folk from The Caliphate of Bradford.
And as for her calling us uneducated, well I have never read her type of "English" before. I wonder if she has ever read a book, other than the green covered one that reads right to left?
The Caliphate of Bradford - where is that - next Syria/Iraq? There may be trouble ahead - and reading these posts it may be sooner than we think. You learn somthing every day and I did not know the"green covered book was read fron right to left. Perhaps we should not take Sarah/1980 too seriously - it takes time to learn and she? is presumably educated in a pea-sized system locally.
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BertSanders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: If you hate yhe Pakistanis move out of bradford is the uk not big enough for your uneducated pea size brains. Yes condemn is and the zionists if it was your 1700 women and children killed for the sale of 3 lives you would know. Hard preachers are living in bradford i think so pls dont point the fingers at others apart from curry what have u got to show for bardford your chavvy lifestyles of boozing and smoking and dole dossing[/p][/quote]Perhaps you could translate this into English - your brain seems "pea size" too - but I get your drift - the local people should move out. There are plenty of attrocities being committed in the Middle East - and the whole area needs the attention of the United Nations and the common sense application of all religions and people of goodwill.[/p][/quote]Yes. Seems like Sarah/1980 would like to ethnically cleanse the white folk from The Caliphate of Bradford. And as for her calling us uneducated, well I have never read her type of "English" before. I wonder if she has ever read a book, other than the green covered one that reads right to left?[/p][/quote]The Caliphate of Bradford - where is that - next Syria/Iraq? There may be trouble ahead - and reading these posts it may be sooner than we think. You learn somthing every day and I did not know the"green covered book was read fron right to left. Perhaps we should not take Sarah/1980 too seriously - it takes time to learn and she? is presumably educated in a pea-sized system locally. BertSanders
  • Score: 2

5:18pm Tue 26 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

BertSanders wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
BertSanders wrote:
Sarah/1980 wrote:
If you hate yhe Pakistanis move out of bradford is the uk not big enough for your uneducated pea size brains. Yes condemn is and the zionists if it was your 1700 women and children killed for the sale of 3 lives you would know. Hard preachers are living in bradford i think so pls dont point the fingers at others apart from curry what have u got to show for bardford your chavvy lifestyles of boozing and smoking and dole dossing
Perhaps you could translate this into English - your brain seems "pea size" too - but I get your drift - the local people should move out. There are plenty of attrocities being committed in the Middle East - and the whole area needs the attention of the United Nations and the common sense application of all religions and people of goodwill.
Yes. Seems like Sarah/1980 would like to ethnically cleanse the white folk from The Caliphate of Bradford.
And as for her calling us uneducated, well I have never read her type of "English" before. I wonder if she has ever read a book, other than the green covered one that reads right to left?
The Caliphate of Bradford - where is that - next Syria/Iraq? There may be trouble ahead - and reading these posts it may be sooner than we think. You learn somthing every day and I did not know the"green covered book was read fron right to left. Perhaps we should not take Sarah/1980 too seriously - it takes time to learn and she? is presumably educated in a pea-sized system locally.
Trouble would not surprise me. What surprises me is that we have not had trouble yet . . . just a matter of time.
[quote][p][bold]BertSanders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BertSanders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: If you hate yhe Pakistanis move out of bradford is the uk not big enough for your uneducated pea size brains. Yes condemn is and the zionists if it was your 1700 women and children killed for the sale of 3 lives you would know. Hard preachers are living in bradford i think so pls dont point the fingers at others apart from curry what have u got to show for bardford your chavvy lifestyles of boozing and smoking and dole dossing[/p][/quote]Perhaps you could translate this into English - your brain seems "pea size" too - but I get your drift - the local people should move out. There are plenty of attrocities being committed in the Middle East - and the whole area needs the attention of the United Nations and the common sense application of all religions and people of goodwill.[/p][/quote]Yes. Seems like Sarah/1980 would like to ethnically cleanse the white folk from The Caliphate of Bradford. And as for her calling us uneducated, well I have never read her type of "English" before. I wonder if she has ever read a book, other than the green covered one that reads right to left?[/p][/quote]The Caliphate of Bradford - where is that - next Syria/Iraq? There may be trouble ahead - and reading these posts it may be sooner than we think. You learn somthing every day and I did not know the"green covered book was read fron right to left. Perhaps we should not take Sarah/1980 too seriously - it takes time to learn and she? is presumably educated in a pea-sized system locally.[/p][/quote]Trouble would not surprise me. What surprises me is that we have not had trouble yet . . . just a matter of time. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 4

11:13pm Tue 26 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
A Knife Ambassador? Well we had a real Ambassador in Bradford last week from Israel and our councillors chose to snub him, belittle him and , and the thrust papers upon his person demanding he take them back to his government . Who would want to be any kind of Ambassador in Bradford?
A Curry Ambassador? perhaps he would not be abused in a shameful manner.
WOW! You never cease to amaze me! The variety of issues you can turn in to a debate about Israel/Palestine. You certainly are a one-track minded person. Do you have an opinion about anything else?

Motives of people like George Galloway for stirring up trouble are obvious i.e. pandering to the Muslim vote but with you, it is much more sinister.

I feel Bradford has never been more united. I am sure you are going to refer to the Gaza protests as sign of a divide amongst the community. However, you are wrong because there is plurality in every society.

You claim to live in Germany but you are so clued up and invested in all things Bradford, it makes me wonder if you are actually closer to home.
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: A Knife Ambassador? Well we had a real Ambassador in Bradford last week from Israel and our councillors chose to snub him, belittle him and , and the thrust papers upon his person demanding he take them back to his government . Who would want to be any kind of Ambassador in Bradford? A Curry Ambassador? perhaps he would not be abused in a shameful manner.[/p][/quote]WOW! You never cease to amaze me! The variety of issues you can turn in to a debate about Israel/Palestine. You certainly are a one-track minded person. Do you have an opinion about anything else? Motives of people like George Galloway for stirring up trouble are obvious i.e. pandering to the Muslim vote but with you, it is much more sinister. I feel Bradford has never been more united. I am sure you are going to refer to the Gaza protests as sign of a divide amongst the community. However, you are wrong because there is plurality in every society. You claim to live in Germany but you are so clued up and invested in all things Bradford, it makes me wonder if you are actually closer to home. keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -4

11:45pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Sarah/1980 says...

Left long ago u mean u left ur brain again in holmewood estate. My English is perfect for you low class whites to read so obviously truth hurts. You must be well bored in Germany if your sat writing extremist comments on here and spreading hatred. You can never stop islam growing and you never know one day your grand kids will become muslim.
Left long ago u mean u left ur brain again in holmewood estate. My English is perfect for you low class whites to read so obviously truth hurts. You must be well bored in Germany if your sat writing extremist comments on here and spreading hatred. You can never stop islam growing and you never know one day your grand kids will become muslim. Sarah/1980
  • Score: -9

11:48pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Sarah/1980 says...

Well why you moaning on here go tell Cameron who allows people into the country. Alot of the Pakistanis are born here and not goin no where you guys would have a problem with anyone who's muslim regardless if pakistani. Just jealous they have done well and worked hard and left you guys behind.
Well why you moaning on here go tell Cameron who allows people into the country. Alot of the Pakistanis are born here and not goin no where you guys would have a problem with anyone who's muslim regardless if pakistani. Just jealous they have done well and worked hard and left you guys behind. Sarah/1980
  • Score: -7

7:57am Wed 27 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

Sarah/1980 wrote:
Well why you moaning on here go tell Cameron who allows people into the country. Alot of the Pakistanis are born here and not goin no where you guys would have a problem with anyone who's muslim regardless if pakistani. Just jealous they have done well and worked hard and left you guys behind.
Guten Morgen. Sarah I really dont care where they were born, I moved to get away from them. I dont come from an estate, I am, well educated, and went to University, not the dole office. I speak my native tongue very well, I also speak German, French, Italian, Latin, Hungarian and Russian, plus a little knowledge of some other languages.
Pakistanis work hard you say? Please show me where and explain, as I never have never seen any evidence of this. Please read the headlines today from Rotherham that show the real Pakistani contribution to UK life. Raping children on a mass scale, its there, its a fact, you can not deny it.
Tell me this too: If Muslims are so intelligent and hard-working why have Muslims worldwide only ever won 10 Nobel Prizes, The worldwide Jewish Community have won 193. Do you see something there?
Anyway, enjoy your fake bottle of perfume from your "boyfriend" Azim who loves you, before he passes you on to Mohammed, who passes you on to Tahir, who passes you on to Haroon . . . . and so on.
Anyway, looks like a lovely day down here in Bavaria. Sun peeping up over The Zugspitze. Grüss Gott.
[quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: Well why you moaning on here go tell Cameron who allows people into the country. Alot of the Pakistanis are born here and not goin no where you guys would have a problem with anyone who's muslim regardless if pakistani. Just jealous they have done well and worked hard and left you guys behind.[/p][/quote]Guten Morgen. Sarah I really dont care where they were born, I moved to get away from them. I dont come from an estate, I am, well educated, and went to University, not the dole office. I speak my native tongue very well, I also speak German, French, Italian, Latin, Hungarian and Russian, plus a little knowledge of some other languages. Pakistanis work hard you say? Please show me where and explain, as I never have never seen any evidence of this. Please read the headlines today from Rotherham that show the real Pakistani contribution to UK life. Raping children on a mass scale, its there, its a fact, you can not deny it. Tell me this too: If Muslims are so intelligent and hard-working why have Muslims worldwide only ever won 10 Nobel Prizes, The worldwide Jewish Community have won 193. Do you see something there? Anyway, enjoy your fake bottle of perfume from your "boyfriend" Azim who loves you, before he passes you on to Mohammed, who passes you on to Tahir, who passes you on to Haroon . . . . and so on. Anyway, looks like a lovely day down here in Bavaria. Sun peeping up over The Zugspitze. Grüss Gott. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 7

10:59am Wed 27 Aug 14

SinnerSaint says...

Sarah/1980 wrote:
Well why you moaning on here go tell Cameron who allows people into the country. Alot of the Pakistanis are born here and not goin no where you guys would have a problem with anyone who's muslim regardless if pakistani. Just jealous they have done well and worked hard and left you guys behind.
LOL!
[quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: Well why you moaning on here go tell Cameron who allows people into the country. Alot of the Pakistanis are born here and not goin no where you guys would have a problem with anyone who's muslim regardless if pakistani. Just jealous they have done well and worked hard and left you guys behind.[/p][/quote]LOL! SinnerSaint
  • Score: 3

11:42am Wed 27 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
Sarah/1980 wrote:
Well why you moaning on here go tell Cameron who allows people into the country. Alot of the Pakistanis are born here and not goin no where you guys would have a problem with anyone who's muslim regardless if pakistani. Just jealous they have done well and worked hard and left you guys behind.
LOL!
Sarah, yes, I am starting to come around to your point of view. It must be very hard work indeed to juggle a drug dealing business, a crash for cash insurance scam, a car wash, and then having to have some accountancy skills to launder the money through Dads curry shop before sending it back to Pakistan to avoid paying tax. Very hard work indeed.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: Well why you moaning on here go tell Cameron who allows people into the country. Alot of the Pakistanis are born here and not goin no where you guys would have a problem with anyone who's muslim regardless if pakistani. Just jealous they have done well and worked hard and left you guys behind.[/p][/quote]LOL![/p][/quote]Sarah, yes, I am starting to come around to your point of view. It must be very hard work indeed to juggle a drug dealing business, a crash for cash insurance scam, a car wash, and then having to have some accountancy skills to launder the money through Dads curry shop before sending it back to Pakistan to avoid paying tax. Very hard work indeed. LOL!!!!!!!!!!! LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 5

11:45am Wed 27 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
Sarah/1980 wrote:
Well why you moaning on here go tell Cameron who allows people into the country. Alot of the Pakistanis are born here and not goin no where you guys would have a problem with anyone who's muslim regardless if pakistani. Just jealous they have done well and worked hard and left you guys behind.
Guten Morgen. Sarah I really dont care where they were born, I moved to get away from them. I dont come from an estate, I am, well educated, and went to University, not the dole office. I speak my native tongue very well, I also speak German, French, Italian, Latin, Hungarian and Russian, plus a little knowledge of some other languages.
Pakistanis work hard you say? Please show me where and explain, as I never have never seen any evidence of this. Please read the headlines today from Rotherham that show the real Pakistani contribution to UK life. Raping children on a mass scale, its there, its a fact, you can not deny it.
Tell me this too: If Muslims are so intelligent and hard-working why have Muslims worldwide only ever won 10 Nobel Prizes, The worldwide Jewish Community have won 193. Do you see something there?
Anyway, enjoy your fake bottle of perfume from your "boyfriend" Azim who loves you, before he passes you on to Mohammed, who passes you on to Tahir, who passes you on to Haroon . . . . and so on.
Anyway, looks like a lovely day down here in Bavaria. Sun peeping up over The Zugspitze. Grüss Gott.
I see you have reached the limit of your intellect and now are repeating the same tired arguments.
Any fact in isolation can seem remarkable but when you put it in to context, it often becomes less remarkable. The Nobel Peace Prize is given to people for politically motivated reasons, the obvious example being Barak Obama. In 1994, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin received the Nobel Peace Prize for their part in peace talks between Israel and Palestine. When Yasser Arafat also received, the same award for his part in the same peace talks there was uproar and members of the committee resigned in protest.
Liu Xiaobo won the award in 2010 even though he supports America’s involvement in numerous wars and receives money from a lobbying group for his activism. The only reason he won is that he is a Chinese dissident. Do not bother telling me he is human rights campaigner and how important human rights are because, coming from an Israeli supporter that is very hypocritical and extremely nauseating. Then there are notable people who have not won the Nobel Peace Prize such as Mahatma Gandhi. He was nominated 5 times but never one. Could this have been because of his role in ending British rule in India?
I grant you progress in these countries is slow but that is not helped by western imposed poppet regimes e.g. Egypt. After the first revolution, I was shocked Mohamed ElBaradei, a former Nobel Laureate surprise surprise, was not elected as president. I was flabbergasted when an Islamist leader was elected. Then true to form there is a military coup, the Rafah border crossing is closed, ElBaradei becomes vice president and Israel is safe again. This made more sense
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: Well why you moaning on here go tell Cameron who allows people into the country. Alot of the Pakistanis are born here and not goin no where you guys would have a problem with anyone who's muslim regardless if pakistani. Just jealous they have done well and worked hard and left you guys behind.[/p][/quote]Guten Morgen. Sarah I really dont care where they were born, I moved to get away from them. I dont come from an estate, I am, well educated, and went to University, not the dole office. I speak my native tongue very well, I also speak German, French, Italian, Latin, Hungarian and Russian, plus a little knowledge of some other languages. Pakistanis work hard you say? Please show me where and explain, as I never have never seen any evidence of this. Please read the headlines today from Rotherham that show the real Pakistani contribution to UK life. Raping children on a mass scale, its there, its a fact, you can not deny it. Tell me this too: If Muslims are so intelligent and hard-working why have Muslims worldwide only ever won 10 Nobel Prizes, The worldwide Jewish Community have won 193. Do you see something there? Anyway, enjoy your fake bottle of perfume from your "boyfriend" Azim who loves you, before he passes you on to Mohammed, who passes you on to Tahir, who passes you on to Haroon . . . . and so on. Anyway, looks like a lovely day down here in Bavaria. Sun peeping up over The Zugspitze. Grüss Gott.[/p][/quote]I see you have reached the limit of your intellect and now are repeating the same tired arguments. Any fact in isolation can seem remarkable but when you put it in to context, it often becomes less remarkable. The Nobel Peace Prize is given to people for politically motivated reasons, the obvious example being Barak Obama. In 1994, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin received the Nobel Peace Prize for their part in peace talks between Israel and Palestine. When Yasser Arafat also received, the same award for his part in the same peace talks there was uproar and members of the committee resigned in protest. Liu Xiaobo won the award in 2010 even though he supports America’s involvement in numerous wars and receives money from a lobbying group for his activism. The only reason he won is that he is a Chinese dissident. Do not bother telling me he is human rights campaigner and how important human rights are because, coming from an Israeli supporter that is very hypocritical and extremely nauseating. Then there are notable people who have not won the Nobel Peace Prize such as Mahatma Gandhi. He was nominated 5 times but never one. Could this have been because of his role in ending British rule in India? I grant you progress in these countries is slow but that is not helped by western imposed poppet regimes e.g. Egypt. After the first revolution, I was shocked Mohamed ElBaradei, a former Nobel Laureate surprise surprise, was not elected as president. I was flabbergasted when an Islamist leader was elected. Then true to form there is a military coup, the Rafah border crossing is closed, ElBaradei becomes vice president and Israel is safe again. This made more sense keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -3

12:31pm Wed 27 Aug 14

SinnerSaint says...

keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
Sarah/1980 wrote:
Well why you moaning on here go tell Cameron who allows people into the country. Alot of the Pakistanis are born here and not goin no where you guys would have a problem with anyone who's muslim regardless if pakistani. Just jealous they have done well and worked hard and left you guys behind.
Guten Morgen. Sarah I really dont care where they were born, I moved to get away from them. I dont come from an estate, I am, well educated, and went to University, not the dole office. I speak my native tongue very well, I also speak German, French, Italian, Latin, Hungarian and Russian, plus a little knowledge of some other languages.
Pakistanis work hard you say? Please show me where and explain, as I never have never seen any evidence of this. Please read the headlines today from Rotherham that show the real Pakistani contribution to UK life. Raping children on a mass scale, its there, its a fact, you can not deny it.
Tell me this too: If Muslims are so intelligent and hard-working why have Muslims worldwide only ever won 10 Nobel Prizes, The worldwide Jewish Community have won 193. Do you see something there?
Anyway, enjoy your fake bottle of perfume from your "boyfriend" Azim who loves you, before he passes you on to Mohammed, who passes you on to Tahir, who passes you on to Haroon . . . . and so on.
Anyway, looks like a lovely day down here in Bavaria. Sun peeping up over The Zugspitze. Grüss Gott.
I see you have reached the limit of your intellect and now are repeating the same tired arguments.
Any fact in isolation can seem remarkable but when you put it in to context, it often becomes less remarkable. The Nobel Peace Prize is given to people for politically motivated reasons, the obvious example being Barak Obama. In 1994, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin received the Nobel Peace Prize for their part in peace talks between Israel and Palestine. When Yasser Arafat also received, the same award for his part in the same peace talks there was uproar and members of the committee resigned in protest.
Liu Xiaobo won the award in 2010 even though he supports America’s involvement in numerous wars and receives money from a lobbying group for his activism. The only reason he won is that he is a Chinese dissident. Do not bother telling me he is human rights campaigner and how important human rights are because, coming from an Israeli supporter that is very hypocritical and extremely nauseating. Then there are notable people who have not won the Nobel Peace Prize such as Mahatma Gandhi. He was nominated 5 times but never one. Could this have been because of his role in ending British rule in India?
I grant you progress in these countries is slow but that is not helped by western imposed poppet regimes e.g. Egypt. After the first revolution, I was shocked Mohamed ElBaradei, a former Nobel Laureate surprise surprise, was not elected as president. I was flabbergasted when an Islamist leader was elected. Then true to form there is a military coup, the Rafah border crossing is closed, ElBaradei becomes vice president and Israel is safe again. This made more sense
So what did you do last time you reached the limits of your intellect and debating skills? Oh yes! You threatened to kill people!
[quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: Well why you moaning on here go tell Cameron who allows people into the country. Alot of the Pakistanis are born here and not goin no where you guys would have a problem with anyone who's muslim regardless if pakistani. Just jealous they have done well and worked hard and left you guys behind.[/p][/quote]Guten Morgen. Sarah I really dont care where they were born, I moved to get away from them. I dont come from an estate, I am, well educated, and went to University, not the dole office. I speak my native tongue very well, I also speak German, French, Italian, Latin, Hungarian and Russian, plus a little knowledge of some other languages. Pakistanis work hard you say? Please show me where and explain, as I never have never seen any evidence of this. Please read the headlines today from Rotherham that show the real Pakistani contribution to UK life. Raping children on a mass scale, its there, its a fact, you can not deny it. Tell me this too: If Muslims are so intelligent and hard-working why have Muslims worldwide only ever won 10 Nobel Prizes, The worldwide Jewish Community have won 193. Do you see something there? Anyway, enjoy your fake bottle of perfume from your "boyfriend" Azim who loves you, before he passes you on to Mohammed, who passes you on to Tahir, who passes you on to Haroon . . . . and so on. Anyway, looks like a lovely day down here in Bavaria. Sun peeping up over The Zugspitze. Grüss Gott.[/p][/quote]I see you have reached the limit of your intellect and now are repeating the same tired arguments. Any fact in isolation can seem remarkable but when you put it in to context, it often becomes less remarkable. The Nobel Peace Prize is given to people for politically motivated reasons, the obvious example being Barak Obama. In 1994, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin received the Nobel Peace Prize for their part in peace talks between Israel and Palestine. When Yasser Arafat also received, the same award for his part in the same peace talks there was uproar and members of the committee resigned in protest. Liu Xiaobo won the award in 2010 even though he supports America’s involvement in numerous wars and receives money from a lobbying group for his activism. The only reason he won is that he is a Chinese dissident. Do not bother telling me he is human rights campaigner and how important human rights are because, coming from an Israeli supporter that is very hypocritical and extremely nauseating. Then there are notable people who have not won the Nobel Peace Prize such as Mahatma Gandhi. He was nominated 5 times but never one. Could this have been because of his role in ending British rule in India? I grant you progress in these countries is slow but that is not helped by western imposed poppet regimes e.g. Egypt. After the first revolution, I was shocked Mohamed ElBaradei, a former Nobel Laureate surprise surprise, was not elected as president. I was flabbergasted when an Islamist leader was elected. Then true to form there is a military coup, the Rafah border crossing is closed, ElBaradei becomes vice president and Israel is safe again. This made more sense[/p][/quote]So what did you do last time you reached the limits of your intellect and debating skills? Oh yes! You threatened to kill people! SinnerSaint
  • Score: 5

12:45pm Wed 27 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

That is pathetic lie. I have never threatened to kill anyone and you have never managed to take me to the limit of my intellect and never will. I see your using your dodging skills AGAIN to avoid debating.
That is pathetic lie. I have never threatened to kill anyone and you have never managed to take me to the limit of my intellect and never will. I see your using your dodging skills AGAIN to avoid debating. keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -4

12:46pm Wed 27 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
Sarah/1980 wrote:
Well why you moaning on here go tell Cameron who allows people into the country. Alot of the Pakistanis are born here and not goin no where you guys would have a problem with anyone who's muslim regardless if pakistani. Just jealous they have done well and worked hard and left you guys behind.
Guten Morgen. Sarah I really dont care where they were born, I moved to get away from them. I dont come from an estate, I am, well educated, and went to University, not the dole office. I speak my native tongue very well, I also speak German, French, Italian, Latin, Hungarian and Russian, plus a little knowledge of some other languages.
Pakistanis work hard you say? Please show me where and explain, as I never have never seen any evidence of this. Please read the headlines today from Rotherham that show the real Pakistani contribution to UK life. Raping children on a mass scale, its there, its a fact, you can not deny it.
Tell me this too: If Muslims are so intelligent and hard-working why have Muslims worldwide only ever won 10 Nobel Prizes, The worldwide Jewish Community have won 193. Do you see something there?
Anyway, enjoy your fake bottle of perfume from your "boyfriend" Azim who loves you, before he passes you on to Mohammed, who passes you on to Tahir, who passes you on to Haroon . . . . and so on.
Anyway, looks like a lovely day down here in Bavaria. Sun peeping up over The Zugspitze. Grüss Gott.
I see you have reached the limit of your intellect and now are repeating the same tired arguments.
Any fact in isolation can seem remarkable but when you put it in to context, it often becomes less remarkable. The Nobel Peace Prize is given to people for politically motivated reasons, the obvious example being Barak Obama. In 1994, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin received the Nobel Peace Prize for their part in peace talks between Israel and Palestine. When Yasser Arafat also received, the same award for his part in the same peace talks there was uproar and members of the committee resigned in protest.
Liu Xiaobo won the award in 2010 even though he supports America’s involvement in numerous wars and receives money from a lobbying group for his activism. The only reason he won is that he is a Chinese dissident. Do not bother telling me he is human rights campaigner and how important human rights are because, coming from an Israeli supporter that is very hypocritical and extremely nauseating. Then there are notable people who have not won the Nobel Peace Prize such as Mahatma Gandhi. He was nominated 5 times but never one. Could this have been because of his role in ending British rule in India?
I grant you progress in these countries is slow but that is not helped by western imposed poppet regimes e.g. Egypt. After the first revolution, I was shocked Mohamed ElBaradei, a former Nobel Laureate surprise surprise, was not elected as president. I was flabbergasted when an Islamist leader was elected. Then true to form there is a military coup, the Rafah border crossing is closed, ElBaradei becomes vice president and Israel is safe again. This made more sense
Keep-It-Real.

Always in Denial. I suppose that Rotherham never happened? How is it Islam can never, oh dearie me, golly gosh, wobbly head, never do any wrong? Incidents in isolation? how many isolated incidents do you need before you can join the dots? All good boys, love their mothers. blah blah blah. deny, deny, deflect.
See how long your beloved Hamas keep their ceasefire for. I give it until Friday afternoon.
[quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: Well why you moaning on here go tell Cameron who allows people into the country. Alot of the Pakistanis are born here and not goin no where you guys would have a problem with anyone who's muslim regardless if pakistani. Just jealous they have done well and worked hard and left you guys behind.[/p][/quote]Guten Morgen. Sarah I really dont care where they were born, I moved to get away from them. I dont come from an estate, I am, well educated, and went to University, not the dole office. I speak my native tongue very well, I also speak German, French, Italian, Latin, Hungarian and Russian, plus a little knowledge of some other languages. Pakistanis work hard you say? Please show me where and explain, as I never have never seen any evidence of this. Please read the headlines today from Rotherham that show the real Pakistani contribution to UK life. Raping children on a mass scale, its there, its a fact, you can not deny it. Tell me this too: If Muslims are so intelligent and hard-working why have Muslims worldwide only ever won 10 Nobel Prizes, The worldwide Jewish Community have won 193. Do you see something there? Anyway, enjoy your fake bottle of perfume from your "boyfriend" Azim who loves you, before he passes you on to Mohammed, who passes you on to Tahir, who passes you on to Haroon . . . . and so on. Anyway, looks like a lovely day down here in Bavaria. Sun peeping up over The Zugspitze. Grüss Gott.[/p][/quote]I see you have reached the limit of your intellect and now are repeating the same tired arguments. Any fact in isolation can seem remarkable but when you put it in to context, it often becomes less remarkable. The Nobel Peace Prize is given to people for politically motivated reasons, the obvious example being Barak Obama. In 1994, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin received the Nobel Peace Prize for their part in peace talks between Israel and Palestine. When Yasser Arafat also received, the same award for his part in the same peace talks there was uproar and members of the committee resigned in protest. Liu Xiaobo won the award in 2010 even though he supports America’s involvement in numerous wars and receives money from a lobbying group for his activism. The only reason he won is that he is a Chinese dissident. Do not bother telling me he is human rights campaigner and how important human rights are because, coming from an Israeli supporter that is very hypocritical and extremely nauseating. Then there are notable people who have not won the Nobel Peace Prize such as Mahatma Gandhi. He was nominated 5 times but never one. Could this have been because of his role in ending British rule in India? I grant you progress in these countries is slow but that is not helped by western imposed poppet regimes e.g. Egypt. After the first revolution, I was shocked Mohamed ElBaradei, a former Nobel Laureate surprise surprise, was not elected as president. I was flabbergasted when an Islamist leader was elected. Then true to form there is a military coup, the Rafah border crossing is closed, ElBaradei becomes vice president and Israel is safe again. This made more sense[/p][/quote]Keep-It-Real. Always in Denial. I suppose that Rotherham never happened? How is it Islam can never, oh dearie me, golly gosh, wobbly head, never do any wrong? Incidents in isolation? how many isolated incidents do you need before you can join the dots? All good boys, love their mothers. blah blah blah. deny, deny, deflect. See how long your beloved Hamas keep their ceasefire for. I give it until Friday afternoon. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 5

1:13pm Wed 27 Aug 14

SinnerSaint says...

keeping-it-real! wrote:
That is pathetic lie. I have never threatened to kill anyone and you have never managed to take me to the limit of my intellect and never will. I see your using your dodging skills AGAIN to avoid debating.
Spouting Islamic propaganda parrot fashion and denying historical and current day fact doesn't demonstrate intellect.

Pretty much everything you said in your last post is not fact - it is your personal take on the events you described.
[quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: That is pathetic lie. I have never threatened to kill anyone and you have never managed to take me to the limit of my intellect and never will. I see your using your dodging skills AGAIN to avoid debating.[/p][/quote]Spouting Islamic propaganda parrot fashion and denying historical and current day fact doesn't demonstrate intellect. Pretty much everything you said in your last post is not fact - it is your personal take on the events you described. SinnerSaint
  • Score: 5

1:59pm Wed 27 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

Keep-It-Real- I suppose we can not describe Pakistani crimes inflicted on over 1400 children in Rotherham, and many many more over the country, as terrorism? I would consider the deliberate rape and torture of these children as terrorism on a grand scale. Please explain why its in not terrorism, or is it a form of Jihad, war on whites, therefore a war crime of the type you blame Israel for? Please explain the subtle difference if you please. Or do you go back to rocking your head backwards and forward in denial?
Keep-It-Real- I suppose we can not describe Pakistani crimes inflicted on over 1400 children in Rotherham, and many many more over the country, as terrorism? I would consider the deliberate rape and torture of these children as terrorism on a grand scale. Please explain why its in not terrorism, or is it a form of Jihad, war on whites, therefore a war crime of the type you blame Israel for? Please explain the subtle difference if you please. Or do you go back to rocking your head backwards and forward in denial? LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 5

2:16pm Wed 27 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
Sarah/1980 wrote:
Well why you moaning on here go tell Cameron who allows people into the country. Alot of the Pakistanis are born here and not goin no where you guys would have a problem with anyone who's muslim regardless if pakistani. Just jealous they have done well and worked hard and left you guys behind.
Guten Morgen. Sarah I really dont care where they were born, I moved to get away from them. I dont come from an estate, I am, well educated, and went to University, not the dole office. I speak my native tongue very well, I also speak German, French, Italian, Latin, Hungarian and Russian, plus a little knowledge of some other languages.
Pakistanis work hard you say? Please show me where and explain, as I never have never seen any evidence of this. Please read the headlines today from Rotherham that show the real Pakistani contribution to UK life. Raping children on a mass scale, its there, its a fact, you can not deny it.
Tell me this too: If Muslims are so intelligent and hard-working why have Muslims worldwide only ever won 10 Nobel Prizes, The worldwide Jewish Community have won 193. Do you see something there?
Anyway, enjoy your fake bottle of perfume from your "boyfriend" Azim who loves you, before he passes you on to Mohammed, who passes you on to Tahir, who passes you on to Haroon . . . . and so on.
Anyway, looks like a lovely day down here in Bavaria. Sun peeping up over The Zugspitze. Grüss Gott.
I see you have reached the limit of your intellect and now are repeating the same tired arguments.
Any fact in isolation can seem remarkable but when you put it in to context, it often becomes less remarkable. The Nobel Peace Prize is given to people for politically motivated reasons, the obvious example being Barak Obama. In 1994, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin received the Nobel Peace Prize for their part in peace talks between Israel and Palestine. When Yasser Arafat also received, the same award for his part in the same peace talks there was uproar and members of the committee resigned in protest.
Liu Xiaobo won the award in 2010 even though he supports America’s involvement in numerous wars and receives money from a lobbying group for his activism. The only reason he won is that he is a Chinese dissident. Do not bother telling me he is human rights campaigner and how important human rights are because, coming from an Israeli supporter that is very hypocritical and extremely nauseating. Then there are notable people who have not won the Nobel Peace Prize such as Mahatma Gandhi. He was nominated 5 times but never one. Could this have been because of his role in ending British rule in India?
I grant you progress in these countries is slow but that is not helped by western imposed poppet regimes e.g. Egypt. After the first revolution, I was shocked Mohamed ElBaradei, a former Nobel Laureate surprise surprise, was not elected as president. I was flabbergasted when an Islamist leader was elected. Then true to form there is a military coup, the Rafah border crossing is closed, ElBaradei becomes vice president and Israel is safe again. This made more sense
Keep-It-Real.

Always in Denial. I suppose that Rotherham never happened? How is it Islam can never, oh dearie me, golly gosh, wobbly head, never do any wrong? Incidents in isolation? how many isolated incidents do you need before you can join the dots? All good boys, love their mothers. blah blah blah. deny, deny, deflect.
See how long your beloved Hamas keep their ceasefire for. I give it until Friday afternoon.
@ LeftLongAgo - Resorting to subject hopping now in order to dodge hard to answer questions. What happened in Rotherham is disgusting and shameful crime. But the shame is on the perpetrators of that crime and not their community or religion. Let’s not make this out to be a religious or cultural norm. Other communities such as the catholic priest hood are also guilty of the same crime. Paedophile rings have been discovered in the BBC and houses of parliament. Does that mean all Brits are the same? No, of course it doesn’t.
A temporary ceasefire by definition is going to end eventually. Who broke the last ceasefire? Could it have been Israel’s assassination of Hamas leaders?
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah/1980[/bold] wrote: Well why you moaning on here go tell Cameron who allows people into the country. Alot of the Pakistanis are born here and not goin no where you guys would have a problem with anyone who's muslim regardless if pakistani. Just jealous they have done well and worked hard and left you guys behind.[/p][/quote]Guten Morgen. Sarah I really dont care where they were born, I moved to get away from them. I dont come from an estate, I am, well educated, and went to University, not the dole office. I speak my native tongue very well, I also speak German, French, Italian, Latin, Hungarian and Russian, plus a little knowledge of some other languages. Pakistanis work hard you say? Please show me where and explain, as I never have never seen any evidence of this. Please read the headlines today from Rotherham that show the real Pakistani contribution to UK life. Raping children on a mass scale, its there, its a fact, you can not deny it. Tell me this too: If Muslims are so intelligent and hard-working why have Muslims worldwide only ever won 10 Nobel Prizes, The worldwide Jewish Community have won 193. Do you see something there? Anyway, enjoy your fake bottle of perfume from your "boyfriend" Azim who loves you, before he passes you on to Mohammed, who passes you on to Tahir, who passes you on to Haroon . . . . and so on. Anyway, looks like a lovely day down here in Bavaria. Sun peeping up over The Zugspitze. Grüss Gott.[/p][/quote]I see you have reached the limit of your intellect and now are repeating the same tired arguments. Any fact in isolation can seem remarkable but when you put it in to context, it often becomes less remarkable. The Nobel Peace Prize is given to people for politically motivated reasons, the obvious example being Barak Obama. In 1994, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin received the Nobel Peace Prize for their part in peace talks between Israel and Palestine. When Yasser Arafat also received, the same award for his part in the same peace talks there was uproar and members of the committee resigned in protest. Liu Xiaobo won the award in 2010 even though he supports America’s involvement in numerous wars and receives money from a lobbying group for his activism. The only reason he won is that he is a Chinese dissident. Do not bother telling me he is human rights campaigner and how important human rights are because, coming from an Israeli supporter that is very hypocritical and extremely nauseating. Then there are notable people who have not won the Nobel Peace Prize such as Mahatma Gandhi. He was nominated 5 times but never one. Could this have been because of his role in ending British rule in India? I grant you progress in these countries is slow but that is not helped by western imposed poppet regimes e.g. Egypt. After the first revolution, I was shocked Mohamed ElBaradei, a former Nobel Laureate surprise surprise, was not elected as president. I was flabbergasted when an Islamist leader was elected. Then true to form there is a military coup, the Rafah border crossing is closed, ElBaradei becomes vice president and Israel is safe again. This made more sense[/p][/quote]Keep-It-Real. Always in Denial. I suppose that Rotherham never happened? How is it Islam can never, oh dearie me, golly gosh, wobbly head, never do any wrong? Incidents in isolation? how many isolated incidents do you need before you can join the dots? All good boys, love their mothers. blah blah blah. deny, deny, deflect. See how long your beloved Hamas keep their ceasefire for. I give it until Friday afternoon.[/p][/quote]@ LeftLongAgo - Resorting to subject hopping now in order to dodge hard to answer questions. What happened in Rotherham is disgusting and shameful crime. But the shame is on the perpetrators of that crime and not their community or religion. Let’s not make this out to be a religious or cultural norm. Other communities such as the catholic priest hood are also guilty of the same crime. Paedophile rings have been discovered in the BBC and houses of parliament. Does that mean all Brits are the same? No, of course it doesn’t. A temporary ceasefire by definition is going to end eventually. Who broke the last ceasefire? Could it have been Israel’s assassination of Hamas leaders? keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -2

2:17pm Wed 27 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
Keep-It-Real- I suppose we can not describe Pakistani crimes inflicted on over 1400 children in Rotherham, and many many more over the country, as terrorism? I would consider the deliberate rape and torture of these children as terrorism on a grand scale. Please explain why its in not terrorism, or is it a form of Jihad, war on whites, therefore a war crime of the type you blame Israel for? Please explain the subtle difference if you please. Or do you go back to rocking your head backwards and forward in denial?
@ LeftLongAgo - Resorting to subject hopping now in order to dodge hard to answer questions. What happened in Rotherham is disgusting and shameful crime. But the shame is on the perpetrators of that crime and not their community or religion. Let’s not make this out to be a religious or cultural norm. Other communities such as the catholic priest hood are also guilty of the same crime. Paedophile rings have been discovered in the BBC and houses of parliament. Does that mean all Brits are the same? No, of course it doesn’t.
A temporary ceasefire by definition is going to end eventually. Who broke the last ceasefire? Could it have been Israel’s assassination of Hamas leaders?
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: Keep-It-Real- I suppose we can not describe Pakistani crimes inflicted on over 1400 children in Rotherham, and many many more over the country, as terrorism? I would consider the deliberate rape and torture of these children as terrorism on a grand scale. Please explain why its in not terrorism, or is it a form of Jihad, war on whites, therefore a war crime of the type you blame Israel for? Please explain the subtle difference if you please. Or do you go back to rocking your head backwards and forward in denial?[/p][/quote]@ LeftLongAgo - Resorting to subject hopping now in order to dodge hard to answer questions. What happened in Rotherham is disgusting and shameful crime. But the shame is on the perpetrators of that crime and not their community or religion. Let’s not make this out to be a religious or cultural norm. Other communities such as the catholic priest hood are also guilty of the same crime. Paedophile rings have been discovered in the BBC and houses of parliament. Does that mean all Brits are the same? No, of course it doesn’t. A temporary ceasefire by definition is going to end eventually. Who broke the last ceasefire? Could it have been Israel’s assassination of Hamas leaders? keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -2

2:18pm Wed 27 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
That is pathetic lie. I have never threatened to kill anyone and you have never managed to take me to the limit of my intellect and never will. I see your using your dodging skills AGAIN to avoid debating.
Spouting Islamic propaganda parrot fashion and denying historical and current day fact doesn't demonstrate intellect.

Pretty much everything you said in your last post is not fact - it is your personal take on the events you described.
What part of what I said was propaganda and not fact? Was there not controversy and resignations over Yasser Arafat being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Dose Liu Xiaobo not support Americas wars and is not funded by the National Endowment for Democracy? Did Mahatma Gandhi win the Nobel Peace Prize? Was a democratically elected president over thrown in Egypt without a whimper from leaders of the ‘free world’?
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: That is pathetic lie. I have never threatened to kill anyone and you have never managed to take me to the limit of my intellect and never will. I see your using your dodging skills AGAIN to avoid debating.[/p][/quote]Spouting Islamic propaganda parrot fashion and denying historical and current day fact doesn't demonstrate intellect. Pretty much everything you said in your last post is not fact - it is your personal take on the events you described.[/p][/quote]What part of what I said was propaganda and not fact? Was there not controversy and resignations over Yasser Arafat being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Dose Liu Xiaobo not support Americas wars and is not funded by the National Endowment for Democracy? Did Mahatma Gandhi win the Nobel Peace Prize? Was a democratically elected president over thrown in Egypt without a whimper from leaders of the ‘free world’? keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -3

2:23pm Wed 27 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

Ohhh, Look at me "Keep-It-Real" Poor "Asians". Again, not a word about Pakistani/Muslim terror or crime. ROTHERHAM? SYSTEMATIC? ORCHESTRATED AND APPROVED BY COMMUNITY LEADERS?
Ohhh, Look at me "Keep-It-Real" Poor "Asians". Again, not a word about Pakistani/Muslim terror or crime. ROTHERHAM? SYSTEMATIC? ORCHESTRATED AND APPROVED BY COMMUNITY LEADERS? LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 5

2:57pm Wed 27 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
Ohhh, Look at me "Keep-It-Real" Poor "Asians". Again, not a word about Pakistani/Muslim terror or crime. ROTHERHAM? SYSTEMATIC? ORCHESTRATED AND APPROVED BY COMMUNITY LEADERS?
I think I already said that this is a disgusting and shameful crime. Scroll up a little and you will see it for yourself. Why are you always speculating about my ethnic origins?Thing like that must be really important to you! Are you done with Palestine and Israel debate. You ask a lot of questions but never answer any.
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: Ohhh, Look at me "Keep-It-Real" Poor "Asians". Again, not a word about Pakistani/Muslim terror or crime. ROTHERHAM? SYSTEMATIC? ORCHESTRATED AND APPROVED BY COMMUNITY LEADERS?[/p][/quote]I think I already said that this is a disgusting and shameful crime. Scroll up a little and you will see it for yourself. Why are you always speculating about my ethnic origins?Thing like that must be really important to you! Are you done with Palestine and Israel debate. You ask a lot of questions but never answer any. keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -3

3:00pm Wed 27 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
Ohhh, Look at me "Keep-It-Real" Poor "Asians". Again, not a word about Pakistani/Muslim terror or crime. ROTHERHAM? SYSTEMATIC? ORCHESTRATED AND APPROVED BY COMMUNITY LEADERS?
I think I already said that this is a disgusting and shameful crime. Scroll up a little and you will see it for yourself. Why are you always speculating about my ethnic origins?Thing like that must be really important to you! Are you done with Palestine and Israel debate. You ask a lot of questions but never answer any.
Approved by community leaders? Funny, I never read that anywhere.
[quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: Ohhh, Look at me "Keep-It-Real" Poor "Asians". Again, not a word about Pakistani/Muslim terror or crime. ROTHERHAM? SYSTEMATIC? ORCHESTRATED AND APPROVED BY COMMUNITY LEADERS?[/p][/quote]I think I already said that this is a disgusting and shameful crime. Scroll up a little and you will see it for yourself. Why are you always speculating about my ethnic origins?Thing like that must be really important to you! Are you done with Palestine and Israel debate. You ask a lot of questions but never answer any.[/p][/quote]Approved by community leaders? Funny, I never read that anywhere. keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -3

3:09pm Wed 27 Aug 14

SinnerSaint says...

keeping-it-real! wrote:
SinnerSaint wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
That is pathetic lie. I have never threatened to kill anyone and you have never managed to take me to the limit of my intellect and never will. I see your using your dodging skills AGAIN to avoid debating.
Spouting Islamic propaganda parrot fashion and denying historical and current day fact doesn't demonstrate intellect.

Pretty much everything you said in your last post is not fact - it is your personal take on the events you described.
What part of what I said was propaganda and not fact? Was there not controversy and resignations over Yasser Arafat being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Dose Liu Xiaobo not support Americas wars and is not funded by the National Endowment for Democracy? Did Mahatma Gandhi win the Nobel Peace Prize? Was a democratically elected president over thrown in Egypt without a whimper from leaders of the ‘free world’?
When are you going to take some responsibility for what is going on in the world instead of blaming everyone else? Basically what you're saying is that anything negative that happens in an Islamic country couldn't possible be down to it's citizen's, the Evil West must have had a hand in it.

You guys need to man up and take some responsibility for your own problems.
[quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: That is pathetic lie. I have never threatened to kill anyone and you have never managed to take me to the limit of my intellect and never will. I see your using your dodging skills AGAIN to avoid debating.[/p][/quote]Spouting Islamic propaganda parrot fashion and denying historical and current day fact doesn't demonstrate intellect. Pretty much everything you said in your last post is not fact - it is your personal take on the events you described.[/p][/quote]What part of what I said was propaganda and not fact? Was there not controversy and resignations over Yasser Arafat being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Dose Liu Xiaobo not support Americas wars and is not funded by the National Endowment for Democracy? Did Mahatma Gandhi win the Nobel Peace Prize? Was a democratically elected president over thrown in Egypt without a whimper from leaders of the ‘free world’?[/p][/quote]When are you going to take some responsibility for what is going on in the world instead of blaming everyone else? Basically what you're saying is that anything negative that happens in an Islamic country couldn't possible be down to it's citizen's, the Evil West must have had a hand in it. You guys need to man up and take some responsibility for your own problems. SinnerSaint
  • Score: 2

5:00pm Wed 27 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

keeping-it-real! wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
Ohhh, Look at me "Keep-It-Real" Poor "Asians". Again, not a word about Pakistani/Muslim terror or crime. ROTHERHAM? SYSTEMATIC? ORCHESTRATED AND APPROVED BY COMMUNITY LEADERS?
I think I already said that this is a disgusting and shameful crime. Scroll up a little and you will see it for yourself. Why are you always speculating about my ethnic origins?Thing like that must be really important to you! Are you done with Palestine and Israel debate. You ask a lot of questions but never answer any.
Approved by community leaders? Funny, I never read that anywhere.
Yep. Put it this way, they knew all about it and kept quiet. I would say that is approval.
[quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: Ohhh, Look at me "Keep-It-Real" Poor "Asians". Again, not a word about Pakistani/Muslim terror or crime. ROTHERHAM? SYSTEMATIC? ORCHESTRATED AND APPROVED BY COMMUNITY LEADERS?[/p][/quote]I think I already said that this is a disgusting and shameful crime. Scroll up a little and you will see it for yourself. Why are you always speculating about my ethnic origins?Thing like that must be really important to you! Are you done with Palestine and Israel debate. You ask a lot of questions but never answer any.[/p][/quote]Approved by community leaders? Funny, I never read that anywhere.[/p][/quote]Yep. Put it this way, they knew all about it and kept quiet. I would say that is approval. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 3

5:50pm Wed 27 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

Why don’t Britain and especially America ever realise that you reap the rewards of the seeds you sew instead of blaming Islam. Both America and Britain less so were happy to fund and train Islamic extremists when they were fighting Russia in Afghanistan e.g. the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Tell me if I am wrong. Today the two most dangerous groups are of shoots of Al-Qaeda e.g. IS and Bako Haram. Who is feeling the wrath of these groups now? That’s right, it’s the Muslims!
Why don’t Britain and especially America ever realise that you reap the rewards of the seeds you sew instead of blaming Islam. Both America and Britain less so were happy to fund and train Islamic extremists when they were fighting Russia in Afghanistan e.g. the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Tell me if I am wrong. Today the two most dangerous groups are of shoots of Al-Qaeda e.g. IS and Bako Haram. Who is feeling the wrath of these groups now? That’s right, it’s the Muslims! keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -4

5:51pm Wed 27 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
SinnerSaint wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
That is pathetic lie. I have never threatened to kill anyone and you have never managed to take me to the limit of my intellect and never will. I see your using your dodging skills AGAIN to avoid debating.
Spouting Islamic propaganda parrot fashion and denying historical and current day fact doesn't demonstrate intellect.

Pretty much everything you said in your last post is not fact - it is your personal take on the events you described.
What part of what I said was propaganda and not fact? Was there not controversy and resignations over Yasser Arafat being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Dose Liu Xiaobo not support Americas wars and is not funded by the National Endowment for Democracy? Did Mahatma Gandhi win the Nobel Peace Prize? Was a democratically elected president over thrown in Egypt without a whimper from leaders of the ‘free world’?
When are you going to take some responsibility for what is going on in the world instead of blaming everyone else? Basically what you're saying is that anything negative that happens in an Islamic country couldn't possible be down to it's citizen's, the Evil West must have had a hand in it.

You guys need to man up and take some responsibility for your own problems.
Why don’t Britain and especially America ever realise that you reap the rewards of the seeds you sew instead of blaming Islam. Both America and Britain less so were happy to fund Islamic extremists when they were fighting Russia in Afghanistan e.g. the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Tell me if I am wrong. Today the two most dangerous groups are of shoots of Al-Qaeda e.g. IS and Bako Haram. Who is feeling the wrath of these groups now? That’s right, it’s the Muslims!
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: That is pathetic lie. I have never threatened to kill anyone and you have never managed to take me to the limit of my intellect and never will. I see your using your dodging skills AGAIN to avoid debating.[/p][/quote]Spouting Islamic propaganda parrot fashion and denying historical and current day fact doesn't demonstrate intellect. Pretty much everything you said in your last post is not fact - it is your personal take on the events you described.[/p][/quote]What part of what I said was propaganda and not fact? Was there not controversy and resignations over Yasser Arafat being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Dose Liu Xiaobo not support Americas wars and is not funded by the National Endowment for Democracy? Did Mahatma Gandhi win the Nobel Peace Prize? Was a democratically elected president over thrown in Egypt without a whimper from leaders of the ‘free world’?[/p][/quote]When are you going to take some responsibility for what is going on in the world instead of blaming everyone else? Basically what you're saying is that anything negative that happens in an Islamic country couldn't possible be down to it's citizen's, the Evil West must have had a hand in it. You guys need to man up and take some responsibility for your own problems.[/p][/quote]Why don’t Britain and especially America ever realise that you reap the rewards of the seeds you sew instead of blaming Islam. Both America and Britain less so were happy to fund Islamic extremists when they were fighting Russia in Afghanistan e.g. the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Tell me if I am wrong. Today the two most dangerous groups are of shoots of Al-Qaeda e.g. IS and Bako Haram. Who is feeling the wrath of these groups now? That’s right, it’s the Muslims! keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -3

6:01pm Wed 27 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards???
The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.
Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards??? The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 3

6:02pm Wed 27 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
Ohhh, Look at me "Keep-It-Real" Poor "Asians". Again, not a word about Pakistani/Muslim terror or crime. ROTHERHAM? SYSTEMATIC? ORCHESTRATED AND APPROVED BY COMMUNITY LEADERS?
I think I already said that this is a disgusting and shameful crime. Scroll up a little and you will see it for yourself. Why are you always speculating about my ethnic origins?Thing like that must be really important to you! Are you done with Palestine and Israel debate. You ask a lot of questions but never answer any.
Approved by community leaders? Funny, I never read that anywhere.
Yep. Put it this way, they knew all about it and kept quiet. I would say that is approval.
I think the authorities are to blame for keeping it quite. If community leaders did know then this should be made known to the community and they will be dealt with. Just because they are community leaders doesn’t mean they are angles. Like in the example of the Catholic Church where Priests who are leaders committed crimes. But there is a lot of ‘if’s’. No one commits crimes and then tells there community leaders.
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: Ohhh, Look at me "Keep-It-Real" Poor "Asians". Again, not a word about Pakistani/Muslim terror or crime. ROTHERHAM? SYSTEMATIC? ORCHESTRATED AND APPROVED BY COMMUNITY LEADERS?[/p][/quote]I think I already said that this is a disgusting and shameful crime. Scroll up a little and you will see it for yourself. Why are you always speculating about my ethnic origins?Thing like that must be really important to you! Are you done with Palestine and Israel debate. You ask a lot of questions but never answer any.[/p][/quote]Approved by community leaders? Funny, I never read that anywhere.[/p][/quote]Yep. Put it this way, they knew all about it and kept quiet. I would say that is approval.[/p][/quote]I think the authorities are to blame for keeping it quite. If community leaders did know then this should be made known to the community and they will be dealt with. Just because they are community leaders doesn’t mean they are angles. Like in the example of the Catholic Church where Priests who are leaders committed crimes. But there is a lot of ‘if’s’. No one commits crimes and then tells there community leaders. keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -3

6:09pm Wed 27 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards???
The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.
Brings Israel’s policy of the right of return for ethnic Jews to Israel in to question seeing as none of the people who you claim are the majority have ethnic origins in Israel.
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards??? The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.[/p][/quote]Brings Israel’s policy of the right of return for ethnic Jews to Israel in to question seeing as none of the people who you claim are the majority have ethnic origins in Israel. keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -2

6:27pm Wed 27 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards???
The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.
Brings Israel’s policy of the right of return for ethnic Jews to Israel in to question seeing as none of the people who you claim are the majority have ethnic origins in Israel.
Yes, tricky one that is it not? but it annoys the hell out of the arabs, who could not defend their bit of sand . . . How many jews lived in what is now Israel at the turn of the Century. How many lived there in 1948, and how many live there now? Jews class ethnicity through the maternal line. As long as you have Jewish ancestry on your mothers side, does not matter how diluted, then welcome to Israel. The right of return was granted by Russia to Jews as well, they flocked to Israel - Israel now full of Slavic babes.
[quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards??? The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.[/p][/quote]Brings Israel’s policy of the right of return for ethnic Jews to Israel in to question seeing as none of the people who you claim are the majority have ethnic origins in Israel.[/p][/quote]Yes, tricky one that is it not? but it annoys the hell out of the arabs, who could not defend their bit of sand . . . How many jews lived in what is now Israel at the turn of the Century. How many lived there in 1948, and how many live there now? Jews class ethnicity through the maternal line. As long as you have Jewish ancestry on your mothers side, does not matter how diluted, then welcome to Israel. The right of return was granted by Russia to Jews as well, they flocked to Israel - Israel now full of Slavic babes. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 2

8:01pm Wed 27 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards???
The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.
Brings Israel’s policy of the right of return for ethnic Jews to Israel in to question seeing as none of the people who you claim are the majority have ethnic origins in Israel.
Yes, tricky one that is it not? but it annoys the hell out of the arabs, who could not defend their bit of sand . . . How many jews lived in what is now Israel at the turn of the Century. How many lived there in 1948, and how many live there now? Jews class ethnicity through the maternal line. As long as you have Jewish ancestry on your mothers side, does not matter how diluted, then welcome to Israel. The right of return was granted by Russia to Jews as well, they flocked to Israel - Israel now full of Slavic babes.
For a person of your intelligence it will be tricky but for the rest of us it is quite clear. The European Jew does not have any ancestry in Israel, diluted or otherwise. When Israel talks about ethnic Jews they are talking about the Hebrews.
Did you know mass migration to Israel by Jews actually breaks covenant between God and the Jews. Have you heard of the three oaths? One of which is: ‘The Jews were sworn not to migrate from Exile to the Land of Israel en mass and not to rebel against the other nations’. These are the teachings in the Jewish Talmud. It just goes to show how hypocritical Israel is. Why am I teaching you about Judaism? Thought your wife was Jewish. Seeing as you have a wife, I guess those Slavic babes are no good to you lol.
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards??? The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.[/p][/quote]Brings Israel’s policy of the right of return for ethnic Jews to Israel in to question seeing as none of the people who you claim are the majority have ethnic origins in Israel.[/p][/quote]Yes, tricky one that is it not? but it annoys the hell out of the arabs, who could not defend their bit of sand . . . How many jews lived in what is now Israel at the turn of the Century. How many lived there in 1948, and how many live there now? Jews class ethnicity through the maternal line. As long as you have Jewish ancestry on your mothers side, does not matter how diluted, then welcome to Israel. The right of return was granted by Russia to Jews as well, they flocked to Israel - Israel now full of Slavic babes.[/p][/quote]For a person of your intelligence it will be tricky but for the rest of us it is quite clear. The European Jew does not have any ancestry in Israel, diluted or otherwise. When Israel talks about ethnic Jews they are talking about the Hebrews. Did you know mass migration to Israel by Jews actually breaks covenant between God and the Jews. Have you heard of the three oaths? One of which is: ‘The Jews were sworn not to migrate from Exile to the Land of Israel en mass and not to rebel against the other nations’. These are the teachings in the Jewish Talmud. It just goes to show how hypocritical Israel is. Why am I teaching you about Judaism? Thought your wife was Jewish. Seeing as you have a wife, I guess those Slavic babes are no good to you lol. keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -3

9:10pm Wed 27 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards???
The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.
Brings Israel’s policy of the right of return for ethnic Jews to Israel in to question seeing as none of the people who you claim are the majority have ethnic origins in Israel.
Yes, tricky one that is it not? but it annoys the hell out of the arabs, who could not defend their bit of sand . . . How many jews lived in what is now Israel at the turn of the Century. How many lived there in 1948, and how many live there now? Jews class ethnicity through the maternal line. As long as you have Jewish ancestry on your mothers side, does not matter how diluted, then welcome to Israel. The right of return was granted by Russia to Jews as well, they flocked to Israel - Israel now full of Slavic babes.
For a person of your intelligence it will be tricky but for the rest of us it is quite clear. The European Jew does not have any ancestry in Israel, diluted or otherwise. When Israel talks about ethnic Jews they are talking about the Hebrews.
Did you know mass migration to Israel by Jews actually breaks covenant between God and the Jews. Have you heard of the three oaths? One of which is: ‘The Jews were sworn not to migrate from Exile to the Land of Israel en mass and not to rebel against the other nations’. These are the teachings in the Jewish Talmud. It just goes to show how hypocritical Israel is. Why am I teaching you about Judaism? Thought your wife was Jewish. Seeing as you have a wife, I guess those Slavic babes are no good to you lol.
Mass Zionist emigration annoy the hell out of the Sunni though, that suits me! Hebrew or no Hebrew, a place in the Sun.
[quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards??? The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.[/p][/quote]Brings Israel’s policy of the right of return for ethnic Jews to Israel in to question seeing as none of the people who you claim are the majority have ethnic origins in Israel.[/p][/quote]Yes, tricky one that is it not? but it annoys the hell out of the arabs, who could not defend their bit of sand . . . How many jews lived in what is now Israel at the turn of the Century. How many lived there in 1948, and how many live there now? Jews class ethnicity through the maternal line. As long as you have Jewish ancestry on your mothers side, does not matter how diluted, then welcome to Israel. The right of return was granted by Russia to Jews as well, they flocked to Israel - Israel now full of Slavic babes.[/p][/quote]For a person of your intelligence it will be tricky but for the rest of us it is quite clear. The European Jew does not have any ancestry in Israel, diluted or otherwise. When Israel talks about ethnic Jews they are talking about the Hebrews. Did you know mass migration to Israel by Jews actually breaks covenant between God and the Jews. Have you heard of the three oaths? One of which is: ‘The Jews were sworn not to migrate from Exile to the Land of Israel en mass and not to rebel against the other nations’. These are the teachings in the Jewish Talmud. It just goes to show how hypocritical Israel is. Why am I teaching you about Judaism? Thought your wife was Jewish. Seeing as you have a wife, I guess those Slavic babes are no good to you lol.[/p][/quote]Mass Zionist emigration annoy the hell out of the Sunni though, that suits me! Hebrew or no Hebrew, a place in the Sun. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 3

9:15pm Wed 27 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards???
The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.
Brings Israel’s policy of the right of return for ethnic Jews to Israel in to question seeing as none of the people who you claim are the majority have ethnic origins in Israel.
Yes, tricky one that is it not? but it annoys the hell out of the arabs, who could not defend their bit of sand . . . How many jews lived in what is now Israel at the turn of the Century. How many lived there in 1948, and how many live there now? Jews class ethnicity through the maternal line. As long as you have Jewish ancestry on your mothers side, does not matter how diluted, then welcome to Israel. The right of return was granted by Russia to Jews as well, they flocked to Israel - Israel now full of Slavic babes.
For a person of your intelligence it will be tricky but for the rest of us it is quite clear. The European Jew does not have any ancestry in Israel, diluted or otherwise. When Israel talks about ethnic Jews they are talking about the Hebrews.
Did you know mass migration to Israel by Jews actually breaks covenant between God and the Jews. Have you heard of the three oaths? One of which is: ‘The Jews were sworn not to migrate from Exile to the Land of Israel en mass and not to rebel against the other nations’. These are the teachings in the Jewish Talmud. It just goes to show how hypocritical Israel is. Why am I teaching you about Judaism? Thought your wife was Jewish. Seeing as you have a wife, I guess those Slavic babes are no good to you lol.
Mass Zionist emigration annoy the hell out of the Sunni though, that suits me! Hebrew or no Hebrew, a place in the Sun.
Are you looking forward to the next Haj, ohh some right babes there! Guinness book of records prize for the gathering of the most bearded ladies and diabetes victims in one place in the world.
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards??? The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.[/p][/quote]Brings Israel’s policy of the right of return for ethnic Jews to Israel in to question seeing as none of the people who you claim are the majority have ethnic origins in Israel.[/p][/quote]Yes, tricky one that is it not? but it annoys the hell out of the arabs, who could not defend their bit of sand . . . How many jews lived in what is now Israel at the turn of the Century. How many lived there in 1948, and how many live there now? Jews class ethnicity through the maternal line. As long as you have Jewish ancestry on your mothers side, does not matter how diluted, then welcome to Israel. The right of return was granted by Russia to Jews as well, they flocked to Israel - Israel now full of Slavic babes.[/p][/quote]For a person of your intelligence it will be tricky but for the rest of us it is quite clear. The European Jew does not have any ancestry in Israel, diluted or otherwise. When Israel talks about ethnic Jews they are talking about the Hebrews. Did you know mass migration to Israel by Jews actually breaks covenant between God and the Jews. Have you heard of the three oaths? One of which is: ‘The Jews were sworn not to migrate from Exile to the Land of Israel en mass and not to rebel against the other nations’. These are the teachings in the Jewish Talmud. It just goes to show how hypocritical Israel is. Why am I teaching you about Judaism? Thought your wife was Jewish. Seeing as you have a wife, I guess those Slavic babes are no good to you lol.[/p][/quote]Mass Zionist emigration annoy the hell out of the Sunni though, that suits me! Hebrew or no Hebrew, a place in the Sun.[/p][/quote]Are you looking forward to the next Haj, ohh some right babes there! Guinness book of records prize for the gathering of the most bearded ladies and diabetes victims in one place in the world. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 4

9:17pm Wed 27 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

Headline news on German TV tonight . . . . ROTHERHAM! Ho Ho. All good boys, thats not how they are reporting it here.
Headline news on German TV tonight . . . . ROTHERHAM! Ho Ho. All good boys, thats not how they are reporting it here. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 4

10:03pm Wed 27 Aug 14

SinnerSaint says...

keeping-it-real! wrote:
SinnerSaint wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
SinnerSaint wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
That is pathetic lie. I have never threatened to kill anyone and you have never managed to take me to the limit of my intellect and never will. I see your using your dodging skills AGAIN to avoid debating.
Spouting Islamic propaganda parrot fashion and denying historical and current day fact doesn't demonstrate intellect.

Pretty much everything you said in your last post is not fact - it is your personal take on the events you described.
What part of what I said was propaganda and not fact? Was there not controversy and resignations over Yasser Arafat being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Dose Liu Xiaobo not support Americas wars and is not funded by the National Endowment for Democracy? Did Mahatma Gandhi win the Nobel Peace Prize? Was a democratically elected president over thrown in Egypt without a whimper from leaders of the ‘free world’?
When are you going to take some responsibility for what is going on in the world instead of blaming everyone else? Basically what you're saying is that anything negative that happens in an Islamic country couldn't possible be down to it's citizen's, the Evil West must have had a hand in it.

You guys need to man up and take some responsibility for your own problems.
Why don’t Britain and especially America ever realise that you reap the rewards of the seeds you sew instead of blaming Islam. Both America and Britain less so were happy to fund Islamic extremists when they were fighting Russia in Afghanistan e.g. the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Tell me if I am wrong. Today the two most dangerous groups are of shoots of Al-Qaeda e.g. IS and Bako Haram. Who is feeling the wrath of these groups now? That’s right, it’s the Muslims!
The Muslims? Oh yes, that's right.

Christ, your take on reality is insane. The delusion and paranoia induced by a lifetime of reading the same book is enormous - you need help.
[quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: That is pathetic lie. I have never threatened to kill anyone and you have never managed to take me to the limit of my intellect and never will. I see your using your dodging skills AGAIN to avoid debating.[/p][/quote]Spouting Islamic propaganda parrot fashion and denying historical and current day fact doesn't demonstrate intellect. Pretty much everything you said in your last post is not fact - it is your personal take on the events you described.[/p][/quote]What part of what I said was propaganda and not fact? Was there not controversy and resignations over Yasser Arafat being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Dose Liu Xiaobo not support Americas wars and is not funded by the National Endowment for Democracy? Did Mahatma Gandhi win the Nobel Peace Prize? Was a democratically elected president over thrown in Egypt without a whimper from leaders of the ‘free world’?[/p][/quote]When are you going to take some responsibility for what is going on in the world instead of blaming everyone else? Basically what you're saying is that anything negative that happens in an Islamic country couldn't possible be down to it's citizen's, the Evil West must have had a hand in it. You guys need to man up and take some responsibility for your own problems.[/p][/quote]Why don’t Britain and especially America ever realise that you reap the rewards of the seeds you sew instead of blaming Islam. Both America and Britain less so were happy to fund Islamic extremists when they were fighting Russia in Afghanistan e.g. the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Tell me if I am wrong. Today the two most dangerous groups are of shoots of Al-Qaeda e.g. IS and Bako Haram. Who is feeling the wrath of these groups now? That’s right, it’s the Muslims![/p][/quote]The Muslims? Oh yes, that's right. Christ, your take on reality is insane. The delusion and paranoia induced by a lifetime of reading the same book is enormous - you need help. SinnerSaint
  • Score: 3

10:41pm Wed 27 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards???
The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.
Brings Israel’s policy of the right of return for ethnic Jews to Israel in to question seeing as none of the people who you claim are the majority have ethnic origins in Israel.
Yes, tricky one that is it not? but it annoys the hell out of the arabs, who could not defend their bit of sand . . . How many jews lived in what is now Israel at the turn of the Century. How many lived there in 1948, and how many live there now? Jews class ethnicity through the maternal line. As long as you have Jewish ancestry on your mothers side, does not matter how diluted, then welcome to Israel. The right of return was granted by Russia to Jews as well, they flocked to Israel - Israel now full of Slavic babes.
For a person of your intelligence it will be tricky but for the rest of us it is quite clear. The European Jew does not have any ancestry in Israel, diluted or otherwise. When Israel talks about ethnic Jews they are talking about the Hebrews.
Did you know mass migration to Israel by Jews actually breaks covenant between God and the Jews. Have you heard of the three oaths? One of which is: ‘The Jews were sworn not to migrate from Exile to the Land of Israel en mass and not to rebel against the other nations’. These are the teachings in the Jewish Talmud. It just goes to show how hypocritical Israel is. Why am I teaching you about Judaism? Thought your wife was Jewish. Seeing as you have a wife, I guess those Slavic babes are no good to you lol.
Mass Zionist emigration annoy the hell out of the Sunni though, that suits me! Hebrew or no Hebrew, a place in the Sun.
Are you looking forward to the next Haj, ohh some right babes there! Guinness book of records prize for the gathering of the most bearded ladies and diabetes victims in one place in the world.
Oh I am really offended. You are a total mug! What are you hoping to achieve with comments like that? By the way, I think your right; there is something about those Israeli babes. Did you hear about the one who converted to Islam and married an Arab. Her wedding was picketed by a far right Jewish group. (http://www.bbc.co.u
k/news/world-middle-
east-28831114)
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards??? The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.[/p][/quote]Brings Israel’s policy of the right of return for ethnic Jews to Israel in to question seeing as none of the people who you claim are the majority have ethnic origins in Israel.[/p][/quote]Yes, tricky one that is it not? but it annoys the hell out of the arabs, who could not defend their bit of sand . . . How many jews lived in what is now Israel at the turn of the Century. How many lived there in 1948, and how many live there now? Jews class ethnicity through the maternal line. As long as you have Jewish ancestry on your mothers side, does not matter how diluted, then welcome to Israel. The right of return was granted by Russia to Jews as well, they flocked to Israel - Israel now full of Slavic babes.[/p][/quote]For a person of your intelligence it will be tricky but for the rest of us it is quite clear. The European Jew does not have any ancestry in Israel, diluted or otherwise. When Israel talks about ethnic Jews they are talking about the Hebrews. Did you know mass migration to Israel by Jews actually breaks covenant between God and the Jews. Have you heard of the three oaths? One of which is: ‘The Jews were sworn not to migrate from Exile to the Land of Israel en mass and not to rebel against the other nations’. These are the teachings in the Jewish Talmud. It just goes to show how hypocritical Israel is. Why am I teaching you about Judaism? Thought your wife was Jewish. Seeing as you have a wife, I guess those Slavic babes are no good to you lol.[/p][/quote]Mass Zionist emigration annoy the hell out of the Sunni though, that suits me! Hebrew or no Hebrew, a place in the Sun.[/p][/quote]Are you looking forward to the next Haj, ohh some right babes there! Guinness book of records prize for the gathering of the most bearded ladies and diabetes victims in one place in the world.[/p][/quote]Oh I am really offended. You are a total mug! What are you hoping to achieve with comments like that? By the way, I think your right; there is something about those Israeli babes. Did you hear about the one who converted to Islam and married an Arab. Her wedding was picketed by a far right Jewish group. (http://www.bbc.co.u k/news/world-middle- east-28831114) keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -3

10:42pm Wed 27 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
SinnerSaint wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
SinnerSaint wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
That is pathetic lie. I have never threatened to kill anyone and you have never managed to take me to the limit of my intellect and never will. I see your using your dodging skills AGAIN to avoid debating.
Spouting Islamic propaganda parrot fashion and denying historical and current day fact doesn't demonstrate intellect.

Pretty much everything you said in your last post is not fact - it is your personal take on the events you described.
What part of what I said was propaganda and not fact? Was there not controversy and resignations over Yasser Arafat being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Dose Liu Xiaobo not support Americas wars and is not funded by the National Endowment for Democracy? Did Mahatma Gandhi win the Nobel Peace Prize? Was a democratically elected president over thrown in Egypt without a whimper from leaders of the ‘free world’?
When are you going to take some responsibility for what is going on in the world instead of blaming everyone else? Basically what you're saying is that anything negative that happens in an Islamic country couldn't possible be down to it's citizen's, the Evil West must have had a hand in it.

You guys need to man up and take some responsibility for your own problems.
Why don’t Britain and especially America ever realise that you reap the rewards of the seeds you sew instead of blaming Islam. Both America and Britain less so were happy to fund Islamic extremists when they were fighting Russia in Afghanistan e.g. the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Tell me if I am wrong. Today the two most dangerous groups are of shoots of Al-Qaeda e.g. IS and Bako Haram. Who is feeling the wrath of these groups now? That’s right, it’s the Muslims!
The Muslims? Oh yes, that's right.

Christ, your take on reality is insane. The delusion and paranoia induced by a lifetime of reading the same book is enormous - you need help.
Ah the retreat of the fool, if you can’t successfully refute something just call it delusional. Same old story then, eh SinnerSaint?
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: That is pathetic lie. I have never threatened to kill anyone and you have never managed to take me to the limit of my intellect and never will. I see your using your dodging skills AGAIN to avoid debating.[/p][/quote]Spouting Islamic propaganda parrot fashion and denying historical and current day fact doesn't demonstrate intellect. Pretty much everything you said in your last post is not fact - it is your personal take on the events you described.[/p][/quote]What part of what I said was propaganda and not fact? Was there not controversy and resignations over Yasser Arafat being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? Dose Liu Xiaobo not support Americas wars and is not funded by the National Endowment for Democracy? Did Mahatma Gandhi win the Nobel Peace Prize? Was a democratically elected president over thrown in Egypt without a whimper from leaders of the ‘free world’?[/p][/quote]When are you going to take some responsibility for what is going on in the world instead of blaming everyone else? Basically what you're saying is that anything negative that happens in an Islamic country couldn't possible be down to it's citizen's, the Evil West must have had a hand in it. You guys need to man up and take some responsibility for your own problems.[/p][/quote]Why don’t Britain and especially America ever realise that you reap the rewards of the seeds you sew instead of blaming Islam. Both America and Britain less so were happy to fund Islamic extremists when they were fighting Russia in Afghanistan e.g. the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Tell me if I am wrong. Today the two most dangerous groups are of shoots of Al-Qaeda e.g. IS and Bako Haram. Who is feeling the wrath of these groups now? That’s right, it’s the Muslims![/p][/quote]The Muslims? Oh yes, that's right. Christ, your take on reality is insane. The delusion and paranoia induced by a lifetime of reading the same book is enormous - you need help.[/p][/quote]Ah the retreat of the fool, if you can’t successfully refute something just call it delusional. Same old story then, eh SinnerSaint? keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -3

10:44pm Wed 27 Aug 14

SinnerSaint says...

What's your take on the 1971 Bangladesh genocide. The Kurdish genocide in Iraq? How can you transfer blame for those atrocities?
What's your take on the 1971 Bangladesh genocide. The Kurdish genocide in Iraq? How can you transfer blame for those atrocities? SinnerSaint
  • Score: 3

10:57pm Wed 27 Aug 14

SinnerSaint says...

America didn't create Islam or the nutjob Islamist extremists that are rabidly murdering and raping and crucifying their way across the ME. The religion itself promotes violence in order to propagate.

Islamic extremism is entrenched within Islam - it is fundamental to it's spread. You can't blame anyone outside of Islam for the violence and extremism of it's followers.
America didn't create Islam or the nutjob Islamist extremists that are rabidly murdering and raping and crucifying their way across the ME. The religion itself promotes violence in order to propagate. Islamic extremism is entrenched within Islam - it is fundamental to it's spread. You can't blame anyone outside of Islam for the violence and extremism of it's followers. SinnerSaint
  • Score: 3

11:06pm Wed 27 Aug 14

SinnerSaint says...

Anyhow, while you desperately search for a way to blame America for the lunacy bred from your religion, I am finishing a nice glass of 2000 chateau lafite - a pleasure you will never have the good fortune to experience because you live in the dark ages. Cheers and goodnight!
Anyhow, while you desperately search for a way to blame America for the lunacy bred from your religion, I am finishing a nice glass of 2000 chateau lafite - a pleasure you will never have the good fortune to experience because you live in the dark ages. Cheers and goodnight! SinnerSaint
  • Score: 3

11:42pm Wed 27 Aug 14

wigwambam says...

It all comes down to religion and who's voice is louder, who can do the most damage, I hope my children grow up and don't buy into the brainwashing, this story was about knife crime not about the middle east and look how much hatred got spewed out on both sides. The whole region where palestine/Israel sits has been volatile for the last 10000 years all because of religion, and who's army is bigger. It's time to bring about peace not sling mud and point score
It all comes down to religion and who's voice is louder, who can do the most damage, I hope my children grow up and don't buy into the brainwashing, this story was about knife crime not about the middle east and look how much hatred got spewed out on both sides. The whole region where palestine/Israel sits has been volatile for the last 10000 years all because of religion, and who's army is bigger. It's time to bring about peace not sling mud and point score wigwambam
  • Score: 1

7:36am Thu 28 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards???
The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.
Brings Israel’s policy of the right of return for ethnic Jews to Israel in to question seeing as none of the people who you claim are the majority have ethnic origins in Israel.
Yes, tricky one that is it not? but it annoys the hell out of the arabs, who could not defend their bit of sand . . . How many jews lived in what is now Israel at the turn of the Century. How many lived there in 1948, and how many live there now? Jews class ethnicity through the maternal line. As long as you have Jewish ancestry on your mothers side, does not matter how diluted, then welcome to Israel. The right of return was granted by Russia to Jews as well, they flocked to Israel - Israel now full of Slavic babes.
For a person of your intelligence it will be tricky but for the rest of us it is quite clear. The European Jew does not have any ancestry in Israel, diluted or otherwise. When Israel talks about ethnic Jews they are talking about the Hebrews.
Did you know mass migration to Israel by Jews actually breaks covenant between God and the Jews. Have you heard of the three oaths? One of which is: ‘The Jews were sworn not to migrate from Exile to the Land of Israel en mass and not to rebel against the other nations’. These are the teachings in the Jewish Talmud. It just goes to show how hypocritical Israel is. Why am I teaching you about Judaism? Thought your wife was Jewish. Seeing as you have a wife, I guess those Slavic babes are no good to you lol.
Mass Zionist emigration annoy the hell out of the Sunni though, that suits me! Hebrew or no Hebrew, a place in the Sun.
Are you looking forward to the next Haj, ohh some right babes there! Guinness book of records prize for the gathering of the most bearded ladies and diabetes victims in one place in the world.
Oh I am really offended. You are a total mug! What are you hoping to achieve with comments like that? By the way, I think your right; there is something about those Israeli babes. Did you hear about the one who converted to Islam and married an Arab. Her wedding was picketed by a far right Jewish group. (http://www.bbc.co.u

k/news/world-middle-

east-28831114)
Yes. But if it was a an Arab who merried a Jew you would have stoned her to death, would you not? Or bury her alive. Religion of Peace! You need conquest/violence to expand Islam as your gene pool is deteriorating due to your inter-breeding. Our Life expectancy goes up, yours goes down. Itchy feet, get a test for diabetes. Know any body close to home with that problem? How about a cleft palate? They also seem desirable in the Pakistani community, a status symbol perhaps - look at me - I married my cousin.
[quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards??? The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.[/p][/quote]Brings Israel’s policy of the right of return for ethnic Jews to Israel in to question seeing as none of the people who you claim are the majority have ethnic origins in Israel.[/p][/quote]Yes, tricky one that is it not? but it annoys the hell out of the arabs, who could not defend their bit of sand . . . How many jews lived in what is now Israel at the turn of the Century. How many lived there in 1948, and how many live there now? Jews class ethnicity through the maternal line. As long as you have Jewish ancestry on your mothers side, does not matter how diluted, then welcome to Israel. The right of return was granted by Russia to Jews as well, they flocked to Israel - Israel now full of Slavic babes.[/p][/quote]For a person of your intelligence it will be tricky but for the rest of us it is quite clear. The European Jew does not have any ancestry in Israel, diluted or otherwise. When Israel talks about ethnic Jews they are talking about the Hebrews. Did you know mass migration to Israel by Jews actually breaks covenant between God and the Jews. Have you heard of the three oaths? One of which is: ‘The Jews were sworn not to migrate from Exile to the Land of Israel en mass and not to rebel against the other nations’. These are the teachings in the Jewish Talmud. It just goes to show how hypocritical Israel is. Why am I teaching you about Judaism? Thought your wife was Jewish. Seeing as you have a wife, I guess those Slavic babes are no good to you lol.[/p][/quote]Mass Zionist emigration annoy the hell out of the Sunni though, that suits me! Hebrew or no Hebrew, a place in the Sun.[/p][/quote]Are you looking forward to the next Haj, ohh some right babes there! Guinness book of records prize for the gathering of the most bearded ladies and diabetes victims in one place in the world.[/p][/quote]Oh I am really offended. You are a total mug! What are you hoping to achieve with comments like that? By the way, I think your right; there is something about those Israeli babes. Did you hear about the one who converted to Islam and married an Arab. Her wedding was picketed by a far right Jewish group. (http://www.bbc.co.u k/news/world-middle- east-28831114)[/p][/quote]Yes. But if it was a an Arab who merried a Jew you would have stoned her to death, would you not? Or bury her alive. Religion of Peace! You need conquest/violence to expand Islam as your gene pool is deteriorating due to your inter-breeding. Our Life expectancy goes up, yours goes down. Itchy feet, get a test for diabetes. Know any body close to home with that problem? How about a cleft palate? They also seem desirable in the Pakistani community, a status symbol perhaps - look at me - I married my cousin. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 4

9:38am Thu 28 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
What's your take on the 1971 Bangladesh genocide. The Kurdish genocide in Iraq? How can you transfer blame for those atrocities?
Firstly, these atrocities were committed by armies of sovereign countries and not an Islamic extremist group. Secondly, these atrocities were committed for national interest and not religious reasons. Finally and most importantly, these atrocities were committed in the name of those nations e.g. Iraq and Pakistan and not in the name of Islam.
You are either plain ignorant or your deliberately being subjective in order to pervert the truth. The west armed Saddam Hussein in order to fight Iran. If there is one thing you take away from this debate @SaintSinner, please let it be this PDF. You can view it online. (http://www.iraqwatc
h.org/suppliers/whoa
rmediraq.pdf)
It is a PDF of an article in the New York Times published on Sunday, July 18, 1993. It lists all the countries that played a part in helping Saddam Hussein develop weapons for his atrocities.
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: What's your take on the 1971 Bangladesh genocide. The Kurdish genocide in Iraq? How can you transfer blame for those atrocities?[/p][/quote]Firstly, these atrocities were committed by armies of sovereign countries and not an Islamic extremist group. Secondly, these atrocities were committed for national interest and not religious reasons. Finally and most importantly, these atrocities were committed in the name of those nations e.g. Iraq and Pakistan and not in the name of Islam. You are either plain ignorant or your deliberately being subjective in order to pervert the truth. The west armed Saddam Hussein in order to fight Iran. If there is one thing you take away from this debate @SaintSinner, please let it be this PDF. You can view it online. (http://www.iraqwatc h.org/suppliers/whoa rmediraq.pdf) It is a PDF of an article in the New York Times published on Sunday, July 18, 1993. It lists all the countries that played a part in helping Saddam Hussein develop weapons for his atrocities. keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -3

9:39am Thu 28 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
Anyhow, while you desperately search for a way to blame America for the lunacy bred from your religion, I am finishing a nice glass of 2000 chateau lafite - a pleasure you will never have the good fortune to experience because you live in the dark ages. Cheers and goodnight!
What is so modern about drinking? Humans have been fermenting fruit since Neolithic Chinese started it all. I might live in the dark ages but I think you will find drinking is pre-historic lol.
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: Anyhow, while you desperately search for a way to blame America for the lunacy bred from your religion, I am finishing a nice glass of 2000 chateau lafite - a pleasure you will never have the good fortune to experience because you live in the dark ages. Cheers and goodnight![/p][/quote]What is so modern about drinking? Humans have been fermenting fruit since Neolithic Chinese started it all. I might live in the dark ages but I think you will find drinking is pre-historic lol. keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -3

9:39am Thu 28 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards???
The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.
Brings Israel’s policy of the right of return for ethnic Jews to Israel in to question seeing as none of the people who you claim are the majority have ethnic origins in Israel.
Yes, tricky one that is it not? but it annoys the hell out of the arabs, who could not defend their bit of sand . . . How many jews lived in what is now Israel at the turn of the Century. How many lived there in 1948, and how many live there now? Jews class ethnicity through the maternal line. As long as you have Jewish ancestry on your mothers side, does not matter how diluted, then welcome to Israel. The right of return was granted by Russia to Jews as well, they flocked to Israel - Israel now full of Slavic babes.
For a person of your intelligence it will be tricky but for the rest of us it is quite clear. The European Jew does not have any ancestry in Israel, diluted or otherwise. When Israel talks about ethnic Jews they are talking about the Hebrews.
Did you know mass migration to Israel by Jews actually breaks covenant between God and the Jews. Have you heard of the three oaths? One of which is: ‘The Jews were sworn not to migrate from Exile to the Land of Israel en mass and not to rebel against the other nations’. These are the teachings in the Jewish Talmud. It just goes to show how hypocritical Israel is. Why am I teaching you about Judaism? Thought your wife was Jewish. Seeing as you have a wife, I guess those Slavic babes are no good to you lol.
Mass Zionist emigration annoy the hell out of the Sunni though, that suits me! Hebrew or no Hebrew, a place in the Sun.
Are you looking forward to the next Haj, ohh some right babes there! Guinness book of records prize for the gathering of the most bearded ladies and diabetes victims in one place in the world.
Oh I am really offended. You are a total mug! What are you hoping to achieve with comments like that? By the way, I think your right; there is something about those Israeli babes. Did you hear about the one who converted to Islam and married an Arab. Her wedding was picketed by a far right Jewish group. (http://www.bbc.co.u


k/news/world-middle-


east-28831114)
Yes. But if it was a an Arab who merried a Jew you would have stoned her to death, would you not? Or bury her alive. Religion of Peace! You need conquest/violence to expand Islam as your gene pool is deteriorating due to your inter-breeding. Our Life expectancy goes up, yours goes down. Itchy feet, get a test for diabetes. Know any body close to home with that problem? How about a cleft palate? They also seem desirable in the Pakistani community, a status symbol perhaps - look at me - I married my cousin.
I think if that mob had their way she would have been lynched. Keep guessing buddy!
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: Oh yes, Jewish women have beards? Look at the long beard on the model Bar Refaeli, and check out Esti Ginzburg, my god - however did they become models with those beards??? The majority of Israels population has arrived from Europe and Russia and Ukraine, Hungary, France, Slovakia . . . therefore they do not carry "Asian" or Arab genes, hence no beards. Just clean, good looking babes.[/p][/quote]Brings Israel’s policy of the right of return for ethnic Jews to Israel in to question seeing as none of the people who you claim are the majority have ethnic origins in Israel.[/p][/quote]Yes, tricky one that is it not? but it annoys the hell out of the arabs, who could not defend their bit of sand . . . How many jews lived in what is now Israel at the turn of the Century. How many lived there in 1948, and how many live there now? Jews class ethnicity through the maternal line. As long as you have Jewish ancestry on your mothers side, does not matter how diluted, then welcome to Israel. The right of return was granted by Russia to Jews as well, they flocked to Israel - Israel now full of Slavic babes.[/p][/quote]For a person of your intelligence it will be tricky but for the rest of us it is quite clear. The European Jew does not have any ancestry in Israel, diluted or otherwise. When Israel talks about ethnic Jews they are talking about the Hebrews. Did you know mass migration to Israel by Jews actually breaks covenant between God and the Jews. Have you heard of the three oaths? One of which is: ‘The Jews were sworn not to migrate from Exile to the Land of Israel en mass and not to rebel against the other nations’. These are the teachings in the Jewish Talmud. It just goes to show how hypocritical Israel is. Why am I teaching you about Judaism? Thought your wife was Jewish. Seeing as you have a wife, I guess those Slavic babes are no good to you lol.[/p][/quote]Mass Zionist emigration annoy the hell out of the Sunni though, that suits me! Hebrew or no Hebrew, a place in the Sun.[/p][/quote]Are you looking forward to the next Haj, ohh some right babes there! Guinness book of records prize for the gathering of the most bearded ladies and diabetes victims in one place in the world.[/p][/quote]Oh I am really offended. You are a total mug! What are you hoping to achieve with comments like that? By the way, I think your right; there is something about those Israeli babes. Did you hear about the one who converted to Islam and married an Arab. Her wedding was picketed by a far right Jewish group. (http://www.bbc.co.u k/news/world-middle- east-28831114)[/p][/quote]Yes. But if it was a an Arab who merried a Jew you would have stoned her to death, would you not? Or bury her alive. Religion of Peace! You need conquest/violence to expand Islam as your gene pool is deteriorating due to your inter-breeding. Our Life expectancy goes up, yours goes down. Itchy feet, get a test for diabetes. Know any body close to home with that problem? How about a cleft palate? They also seem desirable in the Pakistani community, a status symbol perhaps - look at me - I married my cousin.[/p][/quote]I think if that mob had their way she would have been lynched. Keep guessing buddy! keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -3

12:45pm Thu 28 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

keeping-it-real! wrote:
SinnerSaint wrote:
What's your take on the 1971 Bangladesh genocide. The Kurdish genocide in Iraq? How can you transfer blame for those atrocities?
Firstly, these atrocities were committed by armies of sovereign countries and not an Islamic extremist group. Secondly, these atrocities were committed for national interest and not religious reasons. Finally and most importantly, these atrocities were committed in the name of those nations e.g. Iraq and Pakistan and not in the name of Islam.
You are either plain ignorant or your deliberately being subjective in order to pervert the truth. The west armed Saddam Hussein in order to fight Iran. If there is one thing you take away from this debate @SaintSinner, please let it be this PDF. You can view it online. (http://www.iraqwatc

h.org/suppliers/whoa

rmediraq.pdf)
It is a PDF of an article in the New York Times published on Sunday, July 18, 1993. It lists all the countries that played a part in helping Saddam Hussein develop weapons for his atrocities.
Oh, So The Pakistan Military that invaded Bangladesh and slaughtered millions was not an "Islamic" army, I think even that their own war-criminal Generals would admit to being part of an Islamic Army. How about Pakistans ISI, is it not the listening wing of ISIS and did they not take Osama under their wing and look after him while claiming billions of dollars from the US to "help" find him? Pakistans intelligence service have been caught out, nothing more than an Islamic terror group. Pakistan=Duplicious. Pakistani=Duplicious
. State it as it is.
[quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: What's your take on the 1971 Bangladesh genocide. The Kurdish genocide in Iraq? How can you transfer blame for those atrocities?[/p][/quote]Firstly, these atrocities were committed by armies of sovereign countries and not an Islamic extremist group. Secondly, these atrocities were committed for national interest and not religious reasons. Finally and most importantly, these atrocities were committed in the name of those nations e.g. Iraq and Pakistan and not in the name of Islam. You are either plain ignorant or your deliberately being subjective in order to pervert the truth. The west armed Saddam Hussein in order to fight Iran. If there is one thing you take away from this debate @SaintSinner, please let it be this PDF. You can view it online. (http://www.iraqwatc h.org/suppliers/whoa rmediraq.pdf) It is a PDF of an article in the New York Times published on Sunday, July 18, 1993. It lists all the countries that played a part in helping Saddam Hussein develop weapons for his atrocities.[/p][/quote]Oh, So The Pakistan Military that invaded Bangladesh and slaughtered millions was not an "Islamic" army, I think even that their own war-criminal Generals would admit to being part of an Islamic Army. How about Pakistans ISI, is it not the listening wing of ISIS and did they not take Osama under their wing and look after him while claiming billions of dollars from the US to "help" find him? Pakistans intelligence service have been caught out, nothing more than an Islamic terror group. Pakistan=Duplicious. Pakistani=Duplicious . State it as it is. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 3

3:30pm Thu 28 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
SinnerSaint wrote:
What's your take on the 1971 Bangladesh genocide. The Kurdish genocide in Iraq? How can you transfer blame for those atrocities?
Firstly, these atrocities were committed by armies of sovereign countries and not an Islamic extremist group. Secondly, these atrocities were committed for national interest and not religious reasons. Finally and most importantly, these atrocities were committed in the name of those nations e.g. Iraq and Pakistan and not in the name of Islam.
You are either plain ignorant or your deliberately being subjective in order to pervert the truth. The west armed Saddam Hussein in order to fight Iran. If there is one thing you take away from this debate @SaintSinner, please let it be this PDF. You can view it online. (http://www.iraqwatc


h.org/suppliers/whoa


rmediraq.pdf)
It is a PDF of an article in the New York Times published on Sunday, July 18, 1993. It lists all the countries that played a part in helping Saddam Hussein develop weapons for his atrocities.
Oh, So The Pakistan Military that invaded Bangladesh and slaughtered millions was not an "Islamic" army, I think even that their own war-criminal Generals would admit to being part of an Islamic Army. How about Pakistans ISI, is it not the listening wing of ISIS and did they not take Osama under their wing and look after him while claiming billions of dollars from the US to "help" find him? Pakistans intelligence service have been caught out, nothing more than an Islamic terror group. Pakistan=Duplicious. Pakistani=Duplicious

. State it as it is.
Is it fair to attribute Muslim and Jewish genocides in Europe to Christianity. No, because they are crimes committed by Germany and Serbia. Pakistan does not represent Islam.

The ISI thing is a new one on me and the rest of the world. However I agree the Pakistan army is duplicious, but sometimes to survive you have to be.
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: What's your take on the 1971 Bangladesh genocide. The Kurdish genocide in Iraq? How can you transfer blame for those atrocities?[/p][/quote]Firstly, these atrocities were committed by armies of sovereign countries and not an Islamic extremist group. Secondly, these atrocities were committed for national interest and not religious reasons. Finally and most importantly, these atrocities were committed in the name of those nations e.g. Iraq and Pakistan and not in the name of Islam. You are either plain ignorant or your deliberately being subjective in order to pervert the truth. The west armed Saddam Hussein in order to fight Iran. If there is one thing you take away from this debate @SaintSinner, please let it be this PDF. You can view it online. (http://www.iraqwatc h.org/suppliers/whoa rmediraq.pdf) It is a PDF of an article in the New York Times published on Sunday, July 18, 1993. It lists all the countries that played a part in helping Saddam Hussein develop weapons for his atrocities.[/p][/quote]Oh, So The Pakistan Military that invaded Bangladesh and slaughtered millions was not an "Islamic" army, I think even that their own war-criminal Generals would admit to being part of an Islamic Army. How about Pakistans ISI, is it not the listening wing of ISIS and did they not take Osama under their wing and look after him while claiming billions of dollars from the US to "help" find him? Pakistans intelligence service have been caught out, nothing more than an Islamic terror group. Pakistan=Duplicious. Pakistani=Duplicious . State it as it is.[/p][/quote]Is it fair to attribute Muslim and Jewish genocides in Europe to Christianity. No, because they are crimes committed by Germany and Serbia. Pakistan does not represent Islam. The ISI thing is a new one on me and the rest of the world. However I agree the Pakistan army is duplicious, but sometimes to survive you have to be. keeping-it-real!
  • Score: 0

5:24pm Thu 28 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

The war in Servia was started by Kosovan/Albanian Muslims who stirred up ethnic hatred knowing how Serbia would react. They were funded by Saudia Arabia. Dont you remember the bombings of Belgrades Cafes before Serbia retaliated? Oh, no conveniently forgotten. The West was again gubbed by duplicious Muslims into intervening in a war on Islams side, which Islam had started. We should have let Slobodan and Ratko finish the job, now Europe is flooded with a new set of Muslims, Albanian/Kosovan/Bos
nians. Otherwise known as "Pimps", "Drug Dealers" and "Thugs" Now NATO freed their "homelands" why dont they go home?
The war in Servia was started by Kosovan/Albanian Muslims who stirred up ethnic hatred knowing how Serbia would react. They were funded by Saudia Arabia. Dont you remember the bombings of Belgrades Cafes before Serbia retaliated? Oh, no conveniently forgotten. The West was again gubbed by duplicious Muslims into intervening in a war on Islams side, which Islam had started. We should have let Slobodan and Ratko finish the job, now Europe is flooded with a new set of Muslims, Albanian/Kosovan/Bos nians. Otherwise known as "Pimps", "Drug Dealers" and "Thugs" Now NATO freed their "homelands" why dont they go home? LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 2

12:39am Fri 29 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

The above post is so devoid of fact and reality that if it wasn’t for the fact your trying to justify genocide and saying it should have gone further, I would be laughing my head off. Saying that they should have been allowed to finish the job off is truly shocking and hateful. You are an abhorrent person who is no different to Hitler, only you haven’t had the opportunity to commit such a crime yet. How can you talk about the holocaust when you think genocide is fine as long as it is perpetrated against Muslims? Your such a hypocrite, but that’s typical LeftLongAgo.
These are the accepted and established facts of how the Bosnian war started. The Bosnian war was a result of the breakup of Yugoslavia. Slovenia and Croatia had already succeeded from Yugoslavia when in 1992 Bosnia and Herzegovina held a referendum for independence. The war was started when Bosnia and Herzegovina declared independence, which was internationally recognised. That is what triggered the war and the subsequent genocide, not some bombing. I do not know where you get your History from! Your history is different to the history of the rest of the world. I guess the whole world forgot that bombing of the Belgrade cafe.
You have shown your true colour by saying genocide is okay when it is perpetrated against the right type of people. See, the difference between you and me is that there is no right type of people. I would never wish genocide on any group of people, not even my worst enemy. It is the difference between a decent human being and an evil monster!
The above post is so devoid of fact and reality that if it wasn’t for the fact your trying to justify genocide and saying it should have gone further, I would be laughing my head off. Saying that they should have been allowed to finish the job off is truly shocking and hateful. You are an abhorrent person who is no different to Hitler, only you haven’t had the opportunity to commit such a crime yet. How can you talk about the holocaust when you think genocide is fine as long as it is perpetrated against Muslims? Your such a hypocrite, but that’s typical LeftLongAgo. These are the accepted and established facts of how the Bosnian war started. The Bosnian war was a result of the breakup of Yugoslavia. Slovenia and Croatia had already succeeded from Yugoslavia when in 1992 Bosnia and Herzegovina held a referendum for independence. The war was started when Bosnia and Herzegovina declared independence, which was internationally recognised. That is what triggered the war and the subsequent genocide, not some bombing. I do not know where you get your History from! Your history is different to the history of the rest of the world. I guess the whole world forgot that bombing of the Belgrade cafe. You have shown your true colour by saying genocide is okay when it is perpetrated against the right type of people. See, the difference between you and me is that there is no right type of people. I would never wish genocide on any group of people, not even my worst enemy. It is the difference between a decent human being and an evil monster! keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -2

12:47am Fri 29 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
The war in Servia was started by Kosovan/Albanian Muslims who stirred up ethnic hatred knowing how Serbia would react. They were funded by Saudia Arabia. Dont you remember the bombings of Belgrades Cafes before Serbia retaliated? Oh, no conveniently forgotten. The West was again gubbed by duplicious Muslims into intervening in a war on Islams side, which Islam had started. We should have let Slobodan and Ratko finish the job, now Europe is flooded with a new set of Muslims, Albanian/Kosovan/Bos

nians. Otherwise known as "Pimps", "Drug Dealers" and "Thugs" Now NATO freed their "homelands" why dont they go home?
The above post is so devoid of fact and reality that if it wasn’t for the fact your trying to justify genocide and saying it should have gone further, I would be laughing my head off. Saying that they should have been allowed to finish the job off is truly shocking and hateful. You are an abhorrent person who is no different to Hitler, only you haven’t had the opportunity to commit such a crime yet. How can you talk about the holocaust when you think genocide is fine as long as it is perpetrated against Muslims? Your such a hypocrite, but that’s typical LeftLongAgo. These are the accepted and established facts of how the Bosnian war started. The Bosnian war was a result of the breakup of Yugoslavia. Slovenia and Croatia had already succeeded from Yugoslavia when in 1992 Bosnia and Herzegovina held a referendum for independence. The war was started when Bosnia and Herzegovina declared independence, which was internationally recognised. That is what triggered the war and the subsequent genocide, not some bombing. I do not know where you get your History from! Your history is different to the history of the rest of the world. I guess the whole world forgot that bombing of the Belgrade cafe. You have shown your true colour by saying genocide is okay when it is perpetrated against the right type of people. See, the difference between you and me is that there is no right type of people. I would never wish genocide on any group of people, not even my worst enemy. It is the difference between a decent human being and an evil monster!
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: The war in Servia was started by Kosovan/Albanian Muslims who stirred up ethnic hatred knowing how Serbia would react. They were funded by Saudia Arabia. Dont you remember the bombings of Belgrades Cafes before Serbia retaliated? Oh, no conveniently forgotten. The West was again gubbed by duplicious Muslims into intervening in a war on Islams side, which Islam had started. We should have let Slobodan and Ratko finish the job, now Europe is flooded with a new set of Muslims, Albanian/Kosovan/Bos nians. Otherwise known as "Pimps", "Drug Dealers" and "Thugs" Now NATO freed their "homelands" why dont they go home?[/p][/quote]The above post is so devoid of fact and reality that if it wasn’t for the fact your trying to justify genocide and saying it should have gone further, I would be laughing my head off. Saying that they should have been allowed to finish the job off is truly shocking and hateful. You are an abhorrent person who is no different to Hitler, only you haven’t had the opportunity to commit such a crime yet. How can you talk about the holocaust when you think genocide is fine as long as it is perpetrated against Muslims? Your such a hypocrite, but that’s typical LeftLongAgo. These are the accepted and established facts of how the Bosnian war started. The Bosnian war was a result of the breakup of Yugoslavia. Slovenia and Croatia had already succeeded from Yugoslavia when in 1992 Bosnia and Herzegovina held a referendum for independence. The war was started when Bosnia and Herzegovina declared independence, which was internationally recognised. That is what triggered the war and the subsequent genocide, not some bombing. I do not know where you get your History from! Your history is different to the history of the rest of the world. I guess the whole world forgot that bombing of the Belgrade cafe. You have shown your true colour by saying genocide is okay when it is perpetrated against the right type of people. See, the difference between you and me is that there is no right type of people. I would never wish genocide on any group of people, not even my worst enemy. It is the difference between a decent human being and an evil monster! keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -3

7:07am Fri 29 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.
When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 0

1:25pm Fri 29 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that.
As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer.
The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are.
Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are. keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -3

1:27pm Fri 29 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.
Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are.
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.[/p][/quote]Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are. keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -1

2:54pm Fri 29 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.
Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are.
Your obviously against what happened in Bangladesh and rightly so. Bangladesh wanted independence and Pakistan committed genocide in order to stop them. But when the same thing happened in Bosnia it is totally fine. Your just full of contradictions. Answer me this, what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? Answer this, do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them? I challenge you to answer these two questions because from past experience when you are cornered you just cut and run. I think you have talked yourself in to an inevitable end pass. That happens when you base your arguments and world view on ignorance.
[quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.[/p][/quote]Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are.[/p][/quote]Your obviously against what happened in Bangladesh and rightly so. Bangladesh wanted independence and Pakistan committed genocide in order to stop them. But when the same thing happened in Bosnia it is totally fine. Your just full of contradictions. Answer me this, what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? Answer this, do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them? I challenge you to answer these two questions because from past experience when you are cornered you just cut and run. I think you have talked yourself in to an inevitable end pass. That happens when you base your arguments and world view on ignorance. keeping-it-real!
  • Score: -1

8:53pm Fri 29 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

keeping-it-real! wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.
Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are.
Your obviously against what happened in Bangladesh and rightly so. Bangladesh wanted independence and Pakistan committed genocide in order to stop them. But when the same thing happened in Bosnia it is totally fine. Your just full of contradictions. Answer me this, what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? Answer this, do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them? I challenge you to answer these two questions because from past experience when you are cornered you just cut and run. I think you have talked yourself in to an inevitable end pass. That happens when you base your arguments and world view on ignorance.
I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and hia Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant. The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. and his Home Rule efforts in the 19th century, or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick.
I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious.
[quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.[/p][/quote]Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are.[/p][/quote]Your obviously against what happened in Bangladesh and rightly so. Bangladesh wanted independence and Pakistan committed genocide in order to stop them. But when the same thing happened in Bosnia it is totally fine. Your just full of contradictions. Answer me this, what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? Answer this, do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them? I challenge you to answer these two questions because from past experience when you are cornered you just cut and run. I think you have talked yourself in to an inevitable end pass. That happens when you base your arguments and world view on ignorance.[/p][/quote]I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and hia Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant. The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. and his Home Rule efforts in the 19th century, or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick. I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious. LeftLongAgo
  • Score: 0

8:57pm Fri 29 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.
Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are.
Your obviously against what happened in Bangladesh and rightly so. Bangladesh wanted independence and Pakistan committed genocide in order to stop them. But when the same thing happened in Bosnia it is totally fine. Your just full of contradictions. Answer me this, what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? Answer this, do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them? I challenge you to answer these two questions because from past experience when you are cornered you just cut and run. I think you have talked yourself in to an inevitable end pass. That happens when you base your arguments and world view on ignorance.
I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and hia Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant. The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. and his Home Rule efforts in the 19th century, or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick.
I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious.
I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and his Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant). The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. Or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people killed in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that, it was fought in the 26 counties of The Irish Free State afte the Original IRA split. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick.
I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.[/p][/quote]Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are.[/p][/quote]Your obviously against what happened in Bangladesh and rightly so. Bangladesh wanted independence and Pakistan committed genocide in order to stop them. But when the same thing happened in Bosnia it is totally fine. Your just full of contradictions. Answer me this, what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? Answer this, do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them? I challenge you to answer these two questions because from past experience when you are cornered you just cut and run. I think you have talked yourself in to an inevitable end pass. That happens when you base your arguments and world view on ignorance.[/p][/quote]I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and hia Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant. The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. and his Home Rule efforts in the 19th century, or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick. I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious.[/p][/quote]I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and his Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant). The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. Or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people killed in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that, it was fought in the 26 counties of The Irish Free State afte the Original IRA split. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick. I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious LeftLongAgo
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11:49pm Fri 29 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.
Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are.
Your obviously against what happened in Bangladesh and rightly so. Bangladesh wanted independence and Pakistan committed genocide in order to stop them. But when the same thing happened in Bosnia it is totally fine. Your just full of contradictions. Answer me this, what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? Answer this, do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them? I challenge you to answer these two questions because from past experience when you are cornered you just cut and run. I think you have talked yourself in to an inevitable end pass. That happens when you base your arguments and world view on ignorance.
I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and hia Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant. The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. and his Home Rule efforts in the 19th century, or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick.
I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious.
I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and his Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant). The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. Or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people killed in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that, it was fought in the 26 counties of The Irish Free State afte the Original IRA split. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick.
I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious
You failed my challenge miserably. So here we go again and please, try to follow this time. My first question was, ‘what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them?’ Your answer was, none existent. Why am I not supervised. My second question was, ‘do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’ I never said there is a war taking place in Scotland. What I said in my post dated 1:25pm Fri 29 Aug 14, was do you feel the fourth coming referendum in Scotland is an act of treason and do you think that the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? How you got war from what I said is a mystery. Or maybe you mean that there was a war for independence in Bosnia, in which case you are wrong again. Bosnia and Herzegovina declared independence after a referendum. A referendum just like Scotland will be holding soon. War broke out after the internationally recognised independence was declared. That’s right, internationally recognised and not illegal. I suppose you have evidence and statistics to back up how half of their population became dealers and pimps? You failed to answer both questions, instead you had a pointless rant about what happen in Ireland in the past. I never said Britain had committed genocide in Ireland, what I said was should they have. Did you really think you was going to save face with that pointless lecture that doesn’t in anyway answer my questions? What is the matter with you? Do you need reading and comprehension lessons, because I am willing to pay for them. By the way you didn’t save face. I saw through the pointless history lesson and copying and pasting from Wikipedia! Here are my questions again and you can get a friend to read them out to you and help you understand them if you want. 1st question: what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? 2nd question: do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.[/p][/quote]Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are.[/p][/quote]Your obviously against what happened in Bangladesh and rightly so. Bangladesh wanted independence and Pakistan committed genocide in order to stop them. But when the same thing happened in Bosnia it is totally fine. Your just full of contradictions. Answer me this, what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? Answer this, do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them? I challenge you to answer these two questions because from past experience when you are cornered you just cut and run. I think you have talked yourself in to an inevitable end pass. That happens when you base your arguments and world view on ignorance.[/p][/quote]I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and hia Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant. The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. and his Home Rule efforts in the 19th century, or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick. I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious.[/p][/quote]I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and his Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant). The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. Or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people killed in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that, it was fought in the 26 counties of The Irish Free State afte the Original IRA split. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick. I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious[/p][/quote]You failed my challenge miserably. So here we go again and please, try to follow this time. My first question was, ‘what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them?’ Your answer was, none existent. Why am I not supervised. My second question was, ‘do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’ I never said there is a war taking place in Scotland. What I said in my post dated 1:25pm Fri 29 Aug 14, was do you feel the fourth coming referendum in Scotland is an act of treason and do you think that the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? How you got war from what I said is a mystery. Or maybe you mean that there was a war for independence in Bosnia, in which case you are wrong again. Bosnia and Herzegovina declared independence after a referendum. A referendum just like Scotland will be holding soon. War broke out after the internationally recognised independence was declared. That’s right, internationally recognised and not illegal. I suppose you have evidence and statistics to back up how half of their population became dealers and pimps? You failed to answer both questions, instead you had a pointless rant about what happen in Ireland in the past. I never said Britain had committed genocide in Ireland, what I said was should they have. Did you really think you was going to save face with that pointless lecture that doesn’t in anyway answer my questions? What is the matter with you? Do you need reading and comprehension lessons, because I am willing to pay for them. By the way you didn’t save face. I saw through the pointless history lesson and copying and pasting from Wikipedia! Here are my questions again and you can get a friend to read them out to you and help you understand them if you want. 1st question: what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? 2nd question: do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’ keeping-it-real!
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11:56pm Fri 29 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.
Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are.
Your obviously against what happened in Bangladesh and rightly so. Bangladesh wanted independence and Pakistan committed genocide in order to stop them. But when the same thing happened in Bosnia it is totally fine. Your just full of contradictions. Answer me this, what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? Answer this, do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them? I challenge you to answer these two questions because from past experience when you are cornered you just cut and run. I think you have talked yourself in to an inevitable end pass. That happens when you base your arguments and world view on ignorance.
I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and hia Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant. The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. and his Home Rule efforts in the 19th century, or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick.
I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious.
I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and his Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant). The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. Or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people killed in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that, it was fought in the 26 counties of The Irish Free State afte the Original IRA split. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick.
I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious
You failed my challenge miserably. So here we go again and please, try to follow this time. My first question was, ‘what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them?’ Your answer was, none existent. Why am I not supervised. My second question was, ‘do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’ I never said there is a war taking place in Scotland. What I said in my post dated 1:25pm Fri 29 Aug 14, was do you feel the fourth coming referendum in Scotland is an act of treason and do you think that the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? How you got war from what I said is a mystery. Or maybe you mean that there was a war for independence in Bosnia, in which case you are wrong again. Bosnia and Herzegovina declared independence after a referendum. A referendum just like Scotland will be holding soon. War broke out after the internationally recognised independence was declared. That’s right, internationally recognised and not illegal. I suppose you have evidence and statistics to back up how half of their population became dealers and pimps? You failed to answer both questions, instead you had a pointless rant about what happen in Ireland in the past. I never said Britain had committed genocide in Ireland, what I said was should they have. Did you really think you was going to save face with that pointless lecture that doesn’t in anyway answer my questions? What is the matter with you? Do you need reading and comprehension lessons, because I am willing to pay for them. By the way you didn’t save face. I saw through the pointless history lesson and copying and pasting from Wikipedia! Here are my questions again and you can get a friend to read them out to you and help you understand them if you want. 1st question: what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? 2nd question: do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’
Forgot to mention that the cafe bombing only happened in your head and there certainly wasn’t any beheadings. I think you know that but you like to throw unsubstantiated accusations around in order to justify your viewpoint. Peace!
[quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.[/p][/quote]Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are.[/p][/quote]Your obviously against what happened in Bangladesh and rightly so. Bangladesh wanted independence and Pakistan committed genocide in order to stop them. But when the same thing happened in Bosnia it is totally fine. Your just full of contradictions. Answer me this, what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? Answer this, do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them? I challenge you to answer these two questions because from past experience when you are cornered you just cut and run. I think you have talked yourself in to an inevitable end pass. That happens when you base your arguments and world view on ignorance.[/p][/quote]I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and hia Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant. The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. and his Home Rule efforts in the 19th century, or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick. I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious.[/p][/quote]I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and his Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant). The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. Or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people killed in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that, it was fought in the 26 counties of The Irish Free State afte the Original IRA split. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick. I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious[/p][/quote]You failed my challenge miserably. So here we go again and please, try to follow this time. My first question was, ‘what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them?’ Your answer was, none existent. Why am I not supervised. My second question was, ‘do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’ I never said there is a war taking place in Scotland. What I said in my post dated 1:25pm Fri 29 Aug 14, was do you feel the fourth coming referendum in Scotland is an act of treason and do you think that the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? How you got war from what I said is a mystery. Or maybe you mean that there was a war for independence in Bosnia, in which case you are wrong again. Bosnia and Herzegovina declared independence after a referendum. A referendum just like Scotland will be holding soon. War broke out after the internationally recognised independence was declared. That’s right, internationally recognised and not illegal. I suppose you have evidence and statistics to back up how half of their population became dealers and pimps? You failed to answer both questions, instead you had a pointless rant about what happen in Ireland in the past. I never said Britain had committed genocide in Ireland, what I said was should they have. Did you really think you was going to save face with that pointless lecture that doesn’t in anyway answer my questions? What is the matter with you? Do you need reading and comprehension lessons, because I am willing to pay for them. By the way you didn’t save face. I saw through the pointless history lesson and copying and pasting from Wikipedia! Here are my questions again and you can get a friend to read them out to you and help you understand them if you want. 1st question: what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? 2nd question: do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’[/p][/quote]Forgot to mention that the cafe bombing only happened in your head and there certainly wasn’t any beheadings. I think you know that but you like to throw unsubstantiated accusations around in order to justify your viewpoint. Peace! keeping-it-real!
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7:02am Sat 30 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

keeping-it-real! wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.
Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are.
Your obviously against what happened in Bangladesh and rightly so. Bangladesh wanted independence and Pakistan committed genocide in order to stop them. But when the same thing happened in Bosnia it is totally fine. Your just full of contradictions. Answer me this, what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? Answer this, do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them? I challenge you to answer these two questions because from past experience when you are cornered you just cut and run. I think you have talked yourself in to an inevitable end pass. That happens when you base your arguments and world view on ignorance.
I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and hia Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant. The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. and his Home Rule efforts in the 19th century, or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick.
I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious.
I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and his Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant). The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. Or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people killed in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that, it was fought in the 26 counties of The Irish Free State afte the Original IRA split. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick.
I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious
You failed my challenge miserably. So here we go again and please, try to follow this time. My first question was, ‘what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them?’ Your answer was, none existent. Why am I not supervised. My second question was, ‘do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’ I never said there is a war taking place in Scotland. What I said in my post dated 1:25pm Fri 29 Aug 14, was do you feel the fourth coming referendum in Scotland is an act of treason and do you think that the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? How you got war from what I said is a mystery. Or maybe you mean that there was a war for independence in Bosnia, in which case you are wrong again. Bosnia and Herzegovina declared independence after a referendum. A referendum just like Scotland will be holding soon. War broke out after the internationally recognised independence was declared. That’s right, internationally recognised and not illegal. I suppose you have evidence and statistics to back up how half of their population became dealers and pimps? You failed to answer both questions, instead you had a pointless rant about what happen in Ireland in the past. I never said Britain had committed genocide in Ireland, what I said was should they have. Did you really think you was going to save face with that pointless lecture that doesn’t in anyway answer my questions? What is the matter with you? Do you need reading and comprehension lessons, because I am willing to pay for them. By the way you didn’t save face. I saw through the pointless history lesson and copying and pasting from Wikipedia! Here are my questions again and you can get a friend to read them out to you and help you understand them if you want. 1st question: what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? 2nd question: do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’
Forgot to mention that the cafe bombing only happened in your head and there certainly wasn’t any beheadings. I think you know that but you like to throw unsubstantiated accusations around in order to justify your viewpoint. Peace!
Well if the bombings are a figment of my imagination I an not alone. Search for 15 seconds and you can find out plenty about Bosnian Muslim and KLA atrocities and Bombings.
http://www.militaryp
hotos.net/forums/arc
hive/index.php/t-897
30.html
http://www.kosovo.ne
t/fry_overview.html
As for beheadings I think the Chechneyan terrorists "fighting in Bosnia, Kosova and Serbia were particularly fond of it.
And lets not fail to mention another western cover-up that caused embarrassment - The "Government" of Kosovo harvesting organs from murdered Serbian prisoners for sale to their chums in Saudi, Look that one up to, think the Kosovan President made a tidy sum. Nice people.
By the way, the only thing I have cut and paasted is the two links above. If you want to know about Irish History I am quite knowledegable. I wonder why?
[quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.[/p][/quote]Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are.[/p][/quote]Your obviously against what happened in Bangladesh and rightly so. Bangladesh wanted independence and Pakistan committed genocide in order to stop them. But when the same thing happened in Bosnia it is totally fine. Your just full of contradictions. Answer me this, what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? Answer this, do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them? I challenge you to answer these two questions because from past experience when you are cornered you just cut and run. I think you have talked yourself in to an inevitable end pass. That happens when you base your arguments and world view on ignorance.[/p][/quote]I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and hia Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant. The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. and his Home Rule efforts in the 19th century, or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick. I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious.[/p][/quote]I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and his Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant). The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. Or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people killed in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that, it was fought in the 26 counties of The Irish Free State afte the Original IRA split. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick. I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious[/p][/quote]You failed my challenge miserably. So here we go again and please, try to follow this time. My first question was, ‘what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them?’ Your answer was, none existent. Why am I not supervised. My second question was, ‘do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’ I never said there is a war taking place in Scotland. What I said in my post dated 1:25pm Fri 29 Aug 14, was do you feel the fourth coming referendum in Scotland is an act of treason and do you think that the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? How you got war from what I said is a mystery. Or maybe you mean that there was a war for independence in Bosnia, in which case you are wrong again. Bosnia and Herzegovina declared independence after a referendum. A referendum just like Scotland will be holding soon. War broke out after the internationally recognised independence was declared. That’s right, internationally recognised and not illegal. I suppose you have evidence and statistics to back up how half of their population became dealers and pimps? You failed to answer both questions, instead you had a pointless rant about what happen in Ireland in the past. I never said Britain had committed genocide in Ireland, what I said was should they have. Did you really think you was going to save face with that pointless lecture that doesn’t in anyway answer my questions? What is the matter with you? Do you need reading and comprehension lessons, because I am willing to pay for them. By the way you didn’t save face. I saw through the pointless history lesson and copying and pasting from Wikipedia! Here are my questions again and you can get a friend to read them out to you and help you understand them if you want. 1st question: what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? 2nd question: do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’[/p][/quote]Forgot to mention that the cafe bombing only happened in your head and there certainly wasn’t any beheadings. I think you know that but you like to throw unsubstantiated accusations around in order to justify your viewpoint. Peace![/p][/quote]Well if the bombings are a figment of my imagination I an not alone. Search for 15 seconds and you can find out plenty about Bosnian Muslim and KLA atrocities and Bombings. http://www.militaryp hotos.net/forums/arc hive/index.php/t-897 30.html http://www.kosovo.ne t/fry_overview.html As for beheadings I think the Chechneyan terrorists "fighting in Bosnia, Kosova and Serbia were particularly fond of it. And lets not fail to mention another western cover-up that caused embarrassment - The "Government" of Kosovo harvesting organs from murdered Serbian prisoners for sale to their chums in Saudi, Look that one up to, think the Kosovan President made a tidy sum. Nice people. By the way, the only thing I have cut and paasted is the two links above. If you want to know about Irish History I am quite knowledegable. I wonder why? LeftLongAgo
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9:42am Sat 30 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

The Guardian - a slightly better source than Wikipedia. And The Guardian is hardly leaning to the right.
KLA - Organ Harvesters, Mafia Drug Dealers, Scum. Now living amongst us, thanks to NATO, pretty similar to the people I had to "share" Bradford with.
http://www.theguardi
an.com/world/2010/de
c/14/kosovo-prime-mi
nister-llike-mafia-b
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The Guardian - a slightly better source than Wikipedia. And The Guardian is hardly leaning to the right. KLA - Organ Harvesters, Mafia Drug Dealers, Scum. Now living amongst us, thanks to NATO, pretty similar to the people I had to "share" Bradford with. http://www.theguardi an.com/world/2010/de c/14/kosovo-prime-mi nister-llike-mafia-b oss LeftLongAgo
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10:35am Sat 30 Aug 14

LeftLongAgo says...

From The Guradian, The Loveies Newspaper of choice:

Kosovo's prime minister is the head of a "mafia-like" Albanian group responsible for smuggling weapons, drugs and human organs through eastern Europe, according to a Council of Europe inquiry report on organised crime.

Hashim Thaçi is identified as the boss of a network that began operating criminal rackets in the runup to the 1998-99 Kosovo war, and has held powerful sway over the country's government since.

The report of the two-year inquiry, which cites FBI and other intelligence sources, has been obtained by the Guardian. It names Thaçi as having over the last decade exerted "violent control" over the heroin trade. Figures from Thaçi's inner circle are also accused of taking captives across the border into Albania after the war, where a number of Serbs are said to have been murdered for their kidneys, which were sold on the black market.

Legal proceedings began in a Pristina district court today into a case of alleged organ trafficking discovered by police in 2008. That case – in which organs are said to have been taken from impoverished victims at a clinic known as Medicus – is said by the report to be linked to Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) organ harvesting in 2000. It comes at a crucial period for Kosovo, which on Sunday held its first elections since declaring independence from Serbia in 2008. Thaçi claimed victory in the election and has been seeking to form a coalition with opposition parties.

Dick Marty, the human rights investigator behind the inquiry, will present his report to European diplomats from all 47 member states at a meeting in Paris on Thursday. His report suggests Thaçi's links with organised crime date back more than a decade, when those loyal to his Drenica group came to dominate the KLA, and seized control of "most of the illicit criminal enterprises" in which Kosovans were involved south of the border, in Albania.

During the Kosovo conflict Slobodan Miloševic's troops responded to attacks by the KLA by orchestrating a horrific campaign against ethnic Albanians in the territory. As many as 10,000 are estimated to have died at the hands of Serbian troops.

While deploring Serb atrocities, Marty said the international community chose to ignore suspected war crimes by the KLA, "placing a premium instead on achieving some degree of short-term stability". He concludes that during the Kosovo war and for almost a year after, Thaçi and four other members of the Drenica group named in the report carried out "assassinations, detentions, beatings and interrogations". This same hardline KLA faction has held considerable power in Kosovo's government over the last decade, with the support of western powers keen to ensure stability in the fledgling state.

The report paints a picture in which ex-KLA commanders have played a crucial role in the region's criminal activity. It says: "In confidential reports spanning more than a decade, agencies dedicated to combating drug smuggling in at least five countries have named Hashim Thaçi and other members of his Drenica group as having exerted violent control over the trade in heroin and other narcotics."

Marty says: "Thaçi and these other Drenica group members are consistently named as 'key players' in intelligence reports on Kosovo's mafia-like structures of organised crime. I have examined these diverse, voluminous reports with consternation and a sense of moral outrage."

His inquiry was commissioned after the former chief prosecutor for war crimes at the Hague, Carla Del Ponte, said she had been prevented from investigating senior KLA officials. Her most shocking claim, which she said required further investigation, was that the KLA smuggled captive Serbs across the border into Albania, where their organs were harvested.

The report, which states that it is not a criminal investigation and unable to pronounce judgments of guilt or innocence, gives some credence to Del Ponte's claims.

It finds the KLA did hold mostly Serb captives in a secret network of six detention facilities in northern Albania, and that Thaçi's Drenica group "bear the greatest responsibility" for prisons and the fate of those held in them.

They include a "handful" of prisoners said to have been transferred to a makeshift prison just north of Tirana, where they were killed for their kidneys.

The report states: "As and when the transplant surgeons were confirmed to be in position and ready to operate, the captives were brought out of the 'safe house' individually, summarily executed by a KLA gunman, and their corpses transported swiftly to the operating clinic.''

The same Kosovan and foreign individuals involved in the macabre killings are linked to the Medicus case, the report finds.

Marty is critical of the western powers which have provided a supervisory role in Kosovo's emergence as a state, for failing to hold senior figures, including Thaçi, to account. His report criticises "faltering political will on the part of the international community to effectively prosecute the former leaders of the KLA".

It concludes: "The signs of collusion between the criminal class and the highest political and institutional office holders are too numerous and too serious to be ignored.

"It is a fundamental right of Kosovo's citizens to know the truth, the whole truth, and also an indispensable condition for reconciliation between the communities and the country's prosperous future."

If as expected the report is formally adopted by the committee this week, the findings will go before the parliamentary assembly next year.
From The Guradian, The Loveies Newspaper of choice: Kosovo's prime minister is the head of a "mafia-like" Albanian group responsible for smuggling weapons, drugs and human organs through eastern Europe, according to a Council of Europe inquiry report on organised crime. Hashim Thaçi is identified as the boss of a network that began operating criminal rackets in the runup to the 1998-99 Kosovo war, and has held powerful sway over the country's government since. The report of the two-year inquiry, which cites FBI and other intelligence sources, has been obtained by the Guardian. It names Thaçi as having over the last decade exerted "violent control" over the heroin trade. Figures from Thaçi's inner circle are also accused of taking captives across the border into Albania after the war, where a number of Serbs are said to have been murdered for their kidneys, which were sold on the black market. Legal proceedings began in a Pristina district court today into a case of alleged organ trafficking discovered by police in 2008. That case – in which organs are said to have been taken from impoverished victims at a clinic known as Medicus – is said by the report to be linked to Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) organ harvesting in 2000. It comes at a crucial period for Kosovo, which on Sunday held its first elections since declaring independence from Serbia in 2008. Thaçi claimed victory in the election and has been seeking to form a coalition with opposition parties. Dick Marty, the human rights investigator behind the inquiry, will present his report to European diplomats from all 47 member states at a meeting in Paris on Thursday. His report suggests Thaçi's links with organised crime date back more than a decade, when those loyal to his Drenica group came to dominate the KLA, and seized control of "most of the illicit criminal enterprises" in which Kosovans were involved south of the border, in Albania. During the Kosovo conflict Slobodan Miloševic's troops responded to attacks by the KLA by orchestrating a horrific campaign against ethnic Albanians in the territory. As many as 10,000 are estimated to have died at the hands of Serbian troops. While deploring Serb atrocities, Marty said the international community chose to ignore suspected war crimes by the KLA, "placing a premium instead on achieving some degree of short-term stability". He concludes that during the Kosovo war and for almost a year after, Thaçi and four other members of the Drenica group named in the report carried out "assassinations, detentions, beatings and interrogations". This same hardline KLA faction has held considerable power in Kosovo's government over the last decade, with the support of western powers keen to ensure stability in the fledgling state. The report paints a picture in which ex-KLA commanders have played a crucial role in the region's criminal activity. It says: "In confidential reports spanning more than a decade, agencies dedicated to combating drug smuggling in at least five countries have named Hashim Thaçi and other members of his Drenica group as having exerted violent control over the trade in heroin and other narcotics." Marty says: "Thaçi and these other Drenica group members are consistently named as 'key players' in intelligence reports on Kosovo's mafia-like structures of organised crime. I have examined these diverse, voluminous reports with consternation and a sense of moral outrage." His inquiry was commissioned after the former chief prosecutor for war crimes at the Hague, Carla Del Ponte, said she had been prevented from investigating senior KLA officials. Her most shocking claim, which she said required further investigation, was that the KLA smuggled captive Serbs across the border into Albania, where their organs were harvested. The report, which states that it is not a criminal investigation and unable to pronounce judgments of guilt or innocence, gives some credence to Del Ponte's claims. It finds the KLA did hold mostly Serb captives in a secret network of six detention facilities in northern Albania, and that Thaçi's Drenica group "bear the greatest responsibility" for prisons and the fate of those held in them. They include a "handful" of prisoners said to have been transferred to a makeshift prison just north of Tirana, where they were killed for their kidneys. The report states: "As and when the transplant surgeons were confirmed to be in position and ready to operate, the captives were brought out of the 'safe house' individually, summarily executed by a KLA gunman, and their corpses transported swiftly to the operating clinic.'' The same Kosovan and foreign individuals involved in the macabre killings are linked to the Medicus case, the report finds. Marty is critical of the western powers which have provided a supervisory role in Kosovo's emergence as a state, for failing to hold senior figures, including Thaçi, to account. His report criticises "faltering political will on the part of the international community to effectively prosecute the former leaders of the KLA". It concludes: "The signs of collusion between the criminal class and the highest political and institutional office holders are too numerous and too serious to be ignored. "It is a fundamental right of Kosovo's citizens to know the truth, the whole truth, and also an indispensable condition for reconciliation between the communities and the country's prosperous future." If as expected the report is formally adopted by the committee this week, the findings will go before the parliamentary assembly next year. LeftLongAgo
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11:40am Sat 30 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
keeping-it-real! wrote:
LeftLongAgo wrote:
When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.
Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are.
Your obviously against what happened in Bangladesh and rightly so. Bangladesh wanted independence and Pakistan committed genocide in order to stop them. But when the same thing happened in Bosnia it is totally fine. Your just full of contradictions. Answer me this, what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? Answer this, do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them? I challenge you to answer these two questions because from past experience when you are cornered you just cut and run. I think you have talked yourself in to an inevitable end pass. That happens when you base your arguments and world view on ignorance.
I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and hia Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant. The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. and his Home Rule efforts in the 19th century, or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick.
I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious.
I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and his Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant). The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. Or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people killed in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that, it was fought in the 26 counties of The Irish Free State afte the Original IRA split. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick.
I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious
You failed my challenge miserably. So here we go again and please, try to follow this time. My first question was, ‘what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them?’ Your answer was, none existent. Why am I not supervised. My second question was, ‘do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’ I never said there is a war taking place in Scotland. What I said in my post dated 1:25pm Fri 29 Aug 14, was do you feel the fourth coming referendum in Scotland is an act of treason and do you think that the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? How you got war from what I said is a mystery. Or maybe you mean that there was a war for independence in Bosnia, in which case you are wrong again. Bosnia and Herzegovina declared independence after a referendum. A referendum just like Scotland will be holding soon. War broke out after the internationally recognised independence was declared. That’s right, internationally recognised and not illegal. I suppose you have evidence and statistics to back up how half of their population became dealers and pimps? You failed to answer both questions, instead you had a pointless rant about what happen in Ireland in the past. I never said Britain had committed genocide in Ireland, what I said was should they have. Did you really think you was going to save face with that pointless lecture that doesn’t in anyway answer my questions? What is the matter with you? Do you need reading and comprehension lessons, because I am willing to pay for them. By the way you didn’t save face. I saw through the pointless history lesson and copying and pasting from Wikipedia! Here are my questions again and you can get a friend to read them out to you and help you understand them if you want. 1st question: what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? 2nd question: do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’
Forgot to mention that the cafe bombing only happened in your head and there certainly wasn’t any beheadings. I think you know that but you like to throw unsubstantiated accusations around in order to justify your viewpoint. Peace!
Well if the bombings are a figment of my imagination I an not alone. Search for 15 seconds and you can find out plenty about Bosnian Muslim and KLA atrocities and Bombings.
http://www.militaryp

hotos.net/forums/arc

hive/index.php/t-897

30.html
http://www.kosovo.ne

t/fry_overview.html
As for beheadings I think the Chechneyan terrorists "fighting in Bosnia, Kosova and Serbia were particularly fond of it.
And lets not fail to mention another western cover-up that caused embarrassment - The "Government" of Kosovo harvesting organs from murdered Serbian prisoners for sale to their chums in Saudi, Look that one up to, think the Kosovan President made a tidy sum. Nice people.
By the way, the only thing I have cut and paasted is the two links above. If you want to know about Irish History I am quite knowledegable. I wonder why?
Oh the desperation in your posts from today. Read my above comments. Did I mention Kosovo until now? No I didn’t. I can only assume, from the fact your sending me links to Kosovo related article, you think Kosovo and Bosnia are the same country? They not the same country and for God sake they don’t even share a border. Your first link lead to this: ‘Congratulations, you've reached the general purpose Militaryphotos.net error page. This happens when: • We're doing site maintenance. Your second link leads to a page compiled by the Serbian Orthodox Diocese of Raska and Prizren I am sure you can trust these people to be un-biased, never mind because it doesn’t relate to anything we were talking about any way. This page is all about Kosovo’s violations of Security Council resolutions in the period from 10 June 1999 to 4 June 2000. IT’S IN THE FLAMING TITLE, HOW COULD YOU MISS THIS! This is about Kosovo and not Bosnia. It’s not even the right period, the Bosnian war was fought between 1992-1995. That brings me to the Guardian article. The fact that the Kosovan PM is a gangster totally proves that 50% of the population are pimps and gangster and it is just as good as statistics, well done sir! NOT! Even if these were Bosnian crimes and happened in the right time period it does not justify genocide!
This is just pathetic! Why are you trying so desperately to avoid my questions? I will ask again for the third time. 1st question: what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? 2nd question: do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keeping-it-real![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: When you commit treason as Bosnians and Kosovan Muslims clearly did in order to break up a state and create their own claiphate how do you think The Belgrade Government would react. Genocide? I saw dead men in uniforms and some collateral civilian damage, and plenty of your type of Islamic Propaganda. No mention of the Belgrade Cafe Bombs? The deliberate killing of plain clothed civilians, but plenty to say about the porr Bosnians and Albanians. If you don a uniform expect to pay for it.[/p][/quote]Let me be clear as possible. There is no justification for genocide! By saying that you saw dead men in uniforms, I am guessing you are trying to deny genocide took place? Well, you are wrong again because it is an internationally recognised fact! I am sure Hitler felt he had his reasons for doing what he did but he was wrong, simple as that. As for treason, I assume you feel the same way about what the Scottish people are doing. The forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence is no different to what happened in Bosnia. Do you feel the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? I don’t even know why I am asking you that because I dread to hear your answer. The fact that you think genocide is okay just says everything about the type of person you are.[/p][/quote]Your obviously against what happened in Bangladesh and rightly so. Bangladesh wanted independence and Pakistan committed genocide in order to stop them. But when the same thing happened in Bosnia it is totally fine. Your just full of contradictions. Answer me this, what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? Answer this, do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them? I challenge you to answer these two questions because from past experience when you are cornered you just cut and run. I think you have talked yourself in to an inevitable end pass. That happens when you base your arguments and world view on ignorance.[/p][/quote]I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and hia Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant. The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. and his Home Rule efforts in the 19th century, or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick. I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious.[/p][/quote]I did not realise their was a war of independence in Scotland, please tell me about it? Are they blowing up Cafes and beheading people? Oh. no, they are holding a referendum. As for Ireland, well I may have a little bit more knowlede on that subject than you. Where do you want to start with Ireland? Wolfe Tone, Napper Tandy during the 1798 uprising, or, Robert Emmet and his failed rebellion in 1803, or Charles Parnell and his Home rule efforts in the 19th Century (all protestants by the way, so please never spout out it being a simple fight between Catholic and Protestant). The founders of the United Irishmen and The Republican movement were nearly all protestant. Or shall we spin forward to James Connoly (atheist cummunist) and Padraig Pearse at Easter 1916. Or Discuss the War of Independence 1919 followed by the Irish Civil War. The majority of Irish people killed in the 20th Century were killed or executed by their own people in the 26 Counties during The Irish Civil War. Britain had no part in that, it was fought in the 26 counties of The Irish Free State afte the Original IRA split. Or perhaps we can talk about the Current 32 County Continuity Campaign. Please Pick. I only pointed out that Bosnia started the war along with their cohorts in Kosovo, gambling on getting NATO support to found their countries. As soon as Kosovo got Independence (illegally) half their population became pimps or dealers in Europe, and the rest were so grateful to the West that they stuck 2 fingers up to the West and became Jihadists. See, Duplicious[/p][/quote]You failed my challenge miserably. So here we go again and please, try to follow this time. My first question was, ‘what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them?’ Your answer was, none existent. Why am I not supervised. My second question was, ‘do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’ I never said there is a war taking place in Scotland. What I said in my post dated 1:25pm Fri 29 Aug 14, was do you feel the fourth coming referendum in Scotland is an act of treason and do you think that the rest of Britain should commit genocide against the Scottish people? How you got war from what I said is a mystery. Or maybe you mean that there was a war for independence in Bosnia, in which case you are wrong again. Bosnia and Herzegovina declared independence after a referendum. A referendum just like Scotland will be holding soon. War broke out after the internationally recognised independence was declared. That’s right, internationally recognised and not illegal. I suppose you have evidence and statistics to back up how half of their population became dealers and pimps? You failed to answer both questions, instead you had a pointless rant about what happen in Ireland in the past. I never said Britain had committed genocide in Ireland, what I said was should they have. Did you really think you was going to save face with that pointless lecture that doesn’t in anyway answer my questions? What is the matter with you? Do you need reading and comprehension lessons, because I am willing to pay for them. By the way you didn’t save face. I saw through the pointless history lesson and copying and pasting from Wikipedia! Here are my questions again and you can get a friend to read them out to you and help you understand them if you want. 1st question: what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? 2nd question: do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’[/p][/quote]Forgot to mention that the cafe bombing only happened in your head and there certainly wasn’t any beheadings. I think you know that but you like to throw unsubstantiated accusations around in order to justify your viewpoint. Peace![/p][/quote]Well if the bombings are a figment of my imagination I an not alone. Search for 15 seconds and you can find out plenty about Bosnian Muslim and KLA atrocities and Bombings. http://www.militaryp hotos.net/forums/arc hive/index.php/t-897 30.html http://www.kosovo.ne t/fry_overview.html As for beheadings I think the Chechneyan terrorists "fighting in Bosnia, Kosova and Serbia were particularly fond of it. And lets not fail to mention another western cover-up that caused embarrassment - The "Government" of Kosovo harvesting organs from murdered Serbian prisoners for sale to their chums in Saudi, Look that one up to, think the Kosovan President made a tidy sum. Nice people. By the way, the only thing I have cut and paasted is the two links above. If you want to know about Irish History I am quite knowledegable. I wonder why?[/p][/quote]Oh the desperation in your posts from today. Read my above comments. Did I mention Kosovo until now? No I didn’t. I can only assume, from the fact your sending me links to Kosovo related article, you think Kosovo and Bosnia are the same country? They not the same country and for God sake they don’t even share a border. Your first link lead to this: ‘Congratulations, you've reached the general purpose Militaryphotos.net error page. This happens when: • We're doing site maintenance. Your second link leads to a page compiled by the Serbian Orthodox Diocese of Raska and Prizren I am sure you can trust these people to be un-biased, never mind because it doesn’t relate to anything we were talking about any way. This page is all about Kosovo’s violations of Security Council resolutions in the period from 10 June 1999 to 4 June 2000. IT’S IN THE FLAMING TITLE, HOW COULD YOU MISS THIS! This is about Kosovo and not Bosnia. It’s not even the right period, the Bosnian war was fought between 1992-1995. That brings me to the Guardian article. The fact that the Kosovan PM is a gangster totally proves that 50% of the population are pimps and gangster and it is just as good as statistics, well done sir! NOT! Even if these were Bosnian crimes and happened in the right time period it does not justify genocide! This is just pathetic! Why are you trying so desperately to avoid my questions? I will ask again for the third time. 1st question: what is the difference between the genocide in Bangladesh and Bosnia and why do you have a different attitude to them? 2nd question: do you feel that people who want independence e.g. Scotland or the Irish should have genocide committed against them?’ keeping-it-real!
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I will answer your question with a qustion - why dont you f-off?. You just justify every Muslim atrocity with Bullsheet. 1400 little girls lives ruined by Islamic terrorism in Rotherham, and countless more elsewhere. Borders? Borders? Manningham does not border Pakistan but is occupied by the same rat-faced scum. Bosnia/Albania/Kosov
o same rat-faced scum, Saudi/Qatar, yep same. In fact wherever Islam races its very, very ugly head its the same old story. Why should I respond to your questions about Scotland and Ireland, whats your connection, have you ever been? Probably not. Tell me where you have travelled to for your extensive world knowledge? Lahore University, with its one book, or perhaps you listened to Imran on TV for a full global perspective. Away, and fly to Turkey, get across the border and do your duty, hope you dont come back.
I will answer your question with a qustion - why dont you f-off?. You just justify every Muslim atrocity with Bullsheet. 1400 little girls lives ruined by Islamic terrorism in Rotherham, and countless more elsewhere. Borders? Borders? Manningham does not border Pakistan but is occupied by the same rat-faced scum. Bosnia/Albania/Kosov o same rat-faced scum, Saudi/Qatar, yep same. In fact wherever Islam races its very, very ugly head its the same old story. Why should I respond to your questions about Scotland and Ireland, whats your connection, have you ever been? Probably not. Tell me where you have travelled to for your extensive world knowledge? Lahore University, with its one book, or perhaps you listened to Imran on TV for a full global perspective. Away, and fly to Turkey, get across the border and do your duty, hope you dont come back. LeftLongAgo
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9:17pm Sat 30 Aug 14

keeping-it-real! says...

LeftLongAgo wrote:
I will answer your question with a qustion - why dont you f-off?. You just justify every Muslim atrocity with Bullsheet. 1400 little girls lives ruined by Islamic terrorism in Rotherham, and countless more elsewhere. Borders? Borders? Manningham does not border Pakistan but is occupied by the same rat-faced scum. Bosnia/Albania/Kosov

o same rat-faced scum, Saudi/Qatar, yep same. In fact wherever Islam races its very, very ugly head its the same old story. Why should I respond to your questions about Scotland and Ireland, whats your connection, have you ever been? Probably not. Tell me where you have travelled to for your extensive world knowledge? Lahore University, with its one book, or perhaps you listened to Imran on TV for a full global perspective. Away, and fly to Turkey, get across the border and do your duty, hope you dont come back.
Why don’t I f-off? Very classy! A question befitting of the intelligence that produced it. I have every right to be on this forum, at least I live in Bradford. What’s your connection with Iraq or Pakistan? You have said plenty about both. Do I need a connection to Scotland in order to ask a question about it? Sorry, when have I justified Muslim atrocities? I certainly didn’t try to justify what happened in Rotherham. I think we all know who the bullsheeter is and it’s not me pal! Where have I travelled to for my extensive knowledge? I got my BSc from the University of Leeds and MSc from the University of Bradford. You don’t have to go far, books are available everywhere. You say I have only read one book I am assuming you mean the Quran. The funny thing is, having only read one book I was still able to own you in this debate and reduce you to spouting blatant racist insults! By the way the racist insults, like water off a ducks back. Having only read one book, I Know more about the Jewish and the Christian religion. If you answer my questions it will expose you for the hypocrite that you are, AGAIN! Let’s face facts LeftLongAgo, the question is not why should you answer my questions but can you answer my question?
[quote][p][bold]LeftLongAgo[/bold] wrote: I will answer your question with a qustion - why dont you f-off?. You just justify every Muslim atrocity with Bullsheet. 1400 little girls lives ruined by Islamic terrorism in Rotherham, and countless more elsewhere. Borders? Borders? Manningham does not border Pakistan but is occupied by the same rat-faced scum. Bosnia/Albania/Kosov o same rat-faced scum, Saudi/Qatar, yep same. In fact wherever Islam races its very, very ugly head its the same old story. Why should I respond to your questions about Scotland and Ireland, whats your connection, have you ever been? Probably not. Tell me where you have travelled to for your extensive world knowledge? Lahore University, with its one book, or perhaps you listened to Imran on TV for a full global perspective. Away, and fly to Turkey, get across the border and do your duty, hope you dont come back.[/p][/quote]Why don’t I f-off? Very classy! A question befitting of the intelligence that produced it. I have every right to be on this forum, at least I live in Bradford. What’s your connection with Iraq or Pakistan? You have said plenty about both. Do I need a connection to Scotland in order to ask a question about it? Sorry, when have I justified Muslim atrocities? I certainly didn’t try to justify what happened in Rotherham. I think we all know who the bullsheeter is and it’s not me pal! Where have I travelled to for my extensive knowledge? I got my BSc from the University of Leeds and MSc from the University of Bradford. You don’t have to go far, books are available everywhere. You say I have only read one book I am assuming you mean the Quran. The funny thing is, having only read one book I was still able to own you in this debate and reduce you to spouting blatant racist insults! By the way the racist insults, like water off a ducks back. Having only read one book, I Know more about the Jewish and the Christian religion. If you answer my questions it will expose you for the hypocrite that you are, AGAIN! Let’s face facts LeftLongAgo, the question is not why should you answer my questions but can you answer my question? keeping-it-real!
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