Bradford Council planners ‘ruining attractive villages’ says Shipley MP

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Philip Davies Philip Davies

Planners in Bradford were accused of an obsession with “ruining” attractive villages on the city fringe, in a hard-hitting Commons debate last night.

Shipley MP Philip Davies criticised the Labour-run Bradford Council, attacking a “house-building arms race” that ignored the strong opposition of his constituents.

The Conservative backbencher condemned “wholly unsuitable” proposals in Menston, Micklethwaite, Baildon and Wilsden, telling ministers: “This shows localism is not working as it should.

“This housing numbers game does nothing to alleviate housing need or to regenerate the city centre – but ruins the nature of villages in my constituency.

“The public want control on immigration rather than this concentration on supply, which will inevitably lead to every green field being built on one day.”

Mr Davies has also focused on the issue of flooding over proposals to build homes at Menston, calling for a public inquiry to examine the situation. He claimed plans to put 300 homes up at Bingley Road and Derry Hill, Menston, were flawed because of ground water in the area.

He said expert advice offered by a scientist about the issue had been ignored by the Council.

Mr Davies said the information had been supplied before Easter, but no feedback had been provided. “It is deeply regrettable – indeed it is a total and utter disgrace – that Bradford Council has not taken this independent expert opinion into account.

“Indeed they have not shown any interest in it at all, and I urge the Minister to do what he can – even at this late stage – to make the Council reflect on this evidence as otherwise a flawed decision will have been made.

“Indeed, even without this evidence, I have photos of the land to be developed which is flooded after heavy rainfall, and even this real-life proof of the problem seems unable to move the stubborn planners on Bradford Council.”

Mr Davies had secured a debate on planning issues in the Shipley area and told MPs there was too little knowledge and technical skill to assess the flood risk caused by water rising through the ground.

Mr Davies added: “A British Geological Survey Map clearly shows that parts of the Shipley Constituency have a high susceptibility to ground water flooding. Indeed the map shows that at the Bingley Road and Derry Hill sites in Menston possibly 50 per cent of the site is classified as being at very high risk of flooding.”

Controversial developments at Buck Lane in Baildon and Crack Lane in Wilsden had also been given the go ahead despite local opposition.

Local Government Minister Stephen Williams said he was unable to comment on the Bingley Road/Derry Hill planning application but asked Mr Davies to write to the department setting out the flooding concerns.

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7:13am Fri 6 Jun 14

Albion. says...

If inner city areas were more attractive, people would probably consider living there but many inner city developments have proven to be a poor investment. While the population continues to increase, the spread to the suburbs is inevitable, there might be mistakes made at planning level but that won't stop it. This reads like Davies has simply compiled a list of his favourite bandwagons for this week.
If inner city areas were more attractive, people would probably consider living there but many inner city developments have proven to be a poor investment. While the population continues to increase, the spread to the suburbs is inevitable, there might be mistakes made at planning level but that won't stop it. This reads like Davies has simply compiled a list of his favourite bandwagons for this week. Albion.
  • Score: 36

7:41am Fri 6 Jun 14

bingleybantam says...

Another reason why the Aire & Worth Valley need to break away from Bradford Council.
Another reason why the Aire & Worth Valley need to break away from Bradford Council. bingleybantam
  • Score: 40

8:11am Fri 6 Jun 14

sorrow&anger says...

Menston and Buck Lane just show that the Council is just playing with numbers. Bradford needs homes and jobs in the inner city. So what is the point of building houses and factories on a periphery ill served by public transport. So far all the jobs at Buck Lane and the new houses in Menston have gone to people who live in Leeds. Pointless and counter-productive.
Menston and Buck Lane just show that the Council is just playing with numbers. Bradford needs homes and jobs in the inner city. So what is the point of building houses and factories on a periphery ill served by public transport. So far all the jobs at Buck Lane and the new houses in Menston have gone to people who live in Leeds. Pointless and counter-productive. sorrow&anger
  • Score: 38

8:16am Fri 6 Jun 14

bachtothefuture says...

For those of us who watched the debate Philip Davies really stood up for his constituents. It was also clear from the Minister’s response that he thought that BMDC was totally in the wrong. However, as unfortunately happens too often, the institutionalised etiquette will prevail and Whitehall will not interfere. The Council will get away with another really stupid decision.

This has got nothing to do with nimbys and green fields. The question is whether Bradford Council planners, who lacked both the skill and the experience to understand the flood risk, should have dismissed the opinions of two independent experts and advice from the Environment Agency.
For those of us who watched the debate Philip Davies really stood up for his constituents. It was also clear from the Minister’s response that he thought that BMDC was totally in the wrong. However, as unfortunately happens too often, the institutionalised etiquette will prevail and Whitehall will not interfere. The Council will get away with another really stupid decision. This has got nothing to do with nimbys and green fields. The question is whether Bradford Council planners, who lacked both the skill and the experience to understand the flood risk, should have dismissed the opinions of two independent experts and advice from the Environment Agency. bachtothefuture
  • Score: 58

8:20am Fri 6 Jun 14

BaildonGuy says...

The real scandal of schemes like Menston is that City Hall allows developers unlimited access to the planning process and even pays them to act as consultants. Objectors, on the other hand, are only allowed a couple of minutes at the planning meeting to present their case. This asymmetry is undemocratic and puts all the cards in the developers hand, but BMDC seem to like it like that. They have had plenty of opportunities to change the rules yet persistently refuse to do so.
The real scandal of schemes like Menston is that City Hall allows developers unlimited access to the planning process and even pays them to act as consultants. Objectors, on the other hand, are only allowed a couple of minutes at the planning meeting to present their case. This asymmetry is undemocratic and puts all the cards in the developers hand, but BMDC seem to like it like that. They have had plenty of opportunities to change the rules yet persistently refuse to do so. BaildonGuy
  • Score: 44

8:24am Fri 6 Jun 14

pcmanners says...

Only a Conservative MP of Mr Davies' quality would fight for his constituency like this.

The Council no shame. After Philips Davies performance yesterday any other organisation would have sacked the people responsible for the Menston decisions. Socialism isn't working.
Only a Conservative MP of Mr Davies' quality would fight for his constituency like this. The Council no shame. After Philips Davies performance yesterday any other organisation would have sacked the people responsible for the Menston decisions. Socialism isn't working. pcmanners
  • Score: 37

8:25am Fri 6 Jun 14

FiT1958 says...

Good to see Davies supporting his constituents in his speech by referring to the area that they live in as crap towns?
Good to see Davies supporting his constituents in his speech by referring to the area that they live in as crap towns? FiT1958
  • Score: -26

8:33am Fri 6 Jun 14

gouldengirl says...

FiT1958 wrote:
Good to see Davies supporting his constituents in his speech by referring to the area that they live in as crap towns?
Mr Davies quoted Crap Towns in the house. Now it's in Hansard and official. Bradford is the pits. It really is time the Council did something about Bradford’s negative image. This place will never improve until they do.
[quote][p][bold]FiT1958[/bold] wrote: Good to see Davies supporting his constituents in his speech by referring to the area that they live in as crap towns?[/p][/quote]Mr Davies quoted Crap Towns in the house. Now it's in Hansard and official. Bradford is the pits. It really is time the Council did something about Bradford’s negative image. This place will never improve until they do. gouldengirl
  • Score: 54

8:34am Fri 6 Jun 14

gouldengirl says...

FiT1958 wrote:
Good to see Davies supporting his constituents in his speech by referring to the area that they live in as crap towns?
How would you describe inner Bradford then?
[quote][p][bold]FiT1958[/bold] wrote: Good to see Davies supporting his constituents in his speech by referring to the area that they live in as crap towns?[/p][/quote]How would you describe inner Bradford then? gouldengirl
  • Score: 57

8:38am Fri 6 Jun 14

pcmanners says...

gouldengirl wrote:
FiT1958 wrote:
Good to see Davies supporting his constituents in his speech by referring to the area that they live in as crap towns?
How would you describe inner Bradford then?
Only a Socialist stooge like FiT1958 would describe inner Bradford as a beautiful place to live.
[quote][p][bold]gouldengirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FiT1958[/bold] wrote: Good to see Davies supporting his constituents in his speech by referring to the area that they live in as crap towns?[/p][/quote]How would you describe inner Bradford then?[/p][/quote]Only a Socialist stooge like FiT1958 would describe inner Bradford as a beautiful place to live. pcmanners
  • Score: 48

8:46am Fri 6 Jun 14

A650 says...

Great that Davies is standing up for his constituents but he should direct some of his fire to his Government colleagues who have reduced planning regulations to allow more of these sorts of developments to go through. Perhaps if it was made more difficult for developers to keep appealing against planning permission refusals and wearing down local opposition then there’d be less of a problem?

People want to live in the suburbs because they’re nicer places than the cities, however the existing transport infrastructure can’t cope with this movement without very serious investment. Anyone travelling by car into Bradford or Leeds can vouch for that. Just carrying on as we are isn’t sustainable. There needs to be serious money spent on making brownfield sites more attractive to live in. The manage it in Germany and the Netherlands we should learn lessons.
Great that Davies is standing up for his constituents but he should direct some of his fire to his Government colleagues who have reduced planning regulations to allow more of these sorts of developments to go through. Perhaps if it was made more difficult for developers to keep appealing against planning permission refusals and wearing down local opposition then there’d be less of a problem? People want to live in the suburbs because they’re nicer places than the cities, however the existing transport infrastructure can’t cope with this movement without very serious investment. Anyone travelling by car into Bradford or Leeds can vouch for that. Just carrying on as we are isn’t sustainable. There needs to be serious money spent on making brownfield sites more attractive to live in. The manage it in Germany and the Netherlands we should learn lessons. A650
  • Score: 29

8:53am Fri 6 Jun 14

FinlandStation says...

The Menston situation has got nothing to do with objective facts and everything to do with City Hall refusing to back down and admit they might have made a mistake. This happens time and time again. It takes mature and sensible management to know when to back down and correct a wrong decision.
The Menston situation has got nothing to do with objective facts and everything to do with City Hall refusing to back down and admit they might have made a mistake. This happens time and time again. It takes mature and sensible management to know when to back down and correct a wrong decision. FinlandStation
  • Score: 31

8:55am Fri 6 Jun 14

BertSanders says...

Bradford regrettably is an inner city environment, and is expanding rapidly - its peoplesare becoming more affluent and stretching outwards - bringing inner city "style" to the outskirts - gardens become overgrown and property is poorly maintained. Too late to move or impossible because house prices already reflect the demise. Likely to get worse. The Council really has a problem which has become unmanageable, and I doubt that they are able to improve the situation. Bradford - if judged by it s cars is tops - but thats about it.
Bradford regrettably is an inner city environment, and is expanding rapidly - its peoplesare becoming more affluent and stretching outwards - bringing inner city "style" to the outskirts - gardens become overgrown and property is poorly maintained. Too late to move or impossible because house prices already reflect the demise. Likely to get worse. The Council really has a problem which has become unmanageable, and I doubt that they are able to improve the situation. Bradford - if judged by it s cars is tops - but thats about it. BertSanders
  • Score: 26

9:13am Fri 6 Jun 14

SurprisedByJoyce says...

I agree. It's a sort of Gresham's law. Poor quality people will drive out the good. Very sad really. But the Council should be doing everything they can to discourage this.
I agree. It's a sort of Gresham's law. Poor quality people will drive out the good. Very sad really. But the Council should be doing everything they can to discourage this. SurprisedByJoyce
  • Score: 37

9:29am Fri 6 Jun 14

pellethead says...

SurprisedByJoyce wrote:
I agree. It's a sort of Gresham's law. Poor quality people will drive out the good. Very sad really. But the Council should be doing everything they can to discourage this.
Poor quality people? What are they?
[quote][p][bold]SurprisedByJoyce[/bold] wrote: I agree. It's a sort of Gresham's law. Poor quality people will drive out the good. Very sad really. But the Council should be doing everything they can to discourage this.[/p][/quote]Poor quality people? What are they? pellethead
  • Score: -25

9:29am Fri 6 Jun 14

bluebluerobin says...

As Cllr. Green keeps reminding us, and blaming the Government for, Bradford is short of money. His preferred solution is to boost his revenue from Section 106 windfalls, Council Tax and Business Rates. And since the posher the house the higher the Tax the more he builds on what’s left of Bradford’s peripheral greenfields the more cash he rakes in.

The point is that this does nothing for inner Bradford that he depends on for his support. He is obviously so certain of their vote that he believes he can ignore them. When are they going to wake up?
As Cllr. Green keeps reminding us, and blaming the Government for, Bradford is short of money. His preferred solution is to boost his revenue from Section 106 windfalls, Council Tax and Business Rates. And since the posher the house the higher the Tax the more he builds on what’s left of Bradford’s peripheral greenfields the more cash he rakes in. The point is that this does nothing for inner Bradford that he depends on for his support. He is obviously so certain of their vote that he believes he can ignore them. When are they going to wake up? bluebluerobin
  • Score: 31

9:48am Fri 6 Jun 14

Grumpygirl says...

Albion. wrote:
If inner city areas were more attractive, people would probably consider living there but many inner city developments have proven to be a poor investment. While the population continues to increase, the spread to the suburbs is inevitable, there might be mistakes made at planning level but that won't stop it. This reads like Davies has simply compiled a list of his favourite bandwagons for this week.
Your point about Bradford’s inner city is a good one. In other less derelict cities brownfield developments and conversions are selling very well. The problem with brownfields in Bradford is not that they are brownfields, but that they are in brownfields in Bradford. Until the Council fixes the inner city rot all meaningful development will be on the periphery. City Hall have engineered a situation where everybody loses. Inner city people continue to live in squalor and we all lose what’s left of our countryside.

Call me cynical, but I believe Cllr Green is pursuing this policy because it maximises his revenue stream. I don’t think he cares about Bradford very much.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: If inner city areas were more attractive, people would probably consider living there but many inner city developments have proven to be a poor investment. While the population continues to increase, the spread to the suburbs is inevitable, there might be mistakes made at planning level but that won't stop it. This reads like Davies has simply compiled a list of his favourite bandwagons for this week.[/p][/quote]Your point about Bradford’s inner city is a good one. In other less derelict cities brownfield developments and conversions are selling very well. The problem with brownfields in Bradford is not that they are brownfields, but that they are in brownfields in Bradford. Until the Council fixes the inner city rot all meaningful development will be on the periphery. City Hall have engineered a situation where everybody loses. Inner city people continue to live in squalor and we all lose what’s left of our countryside. Call me cynical, but I believe Cllr Green is pursuing this policy because it maximises his revenue stream. I don’t think he cares about Bradford very much. Grumpygirl
  • Score: 32

10:24am Fri 6 Jun 14

FiT1958 says...

pcmanners wrote:
gouldengirl wrote:
FiT1958 wrote:
Good to see Davies supporting his constituents in his speech by referring to the area that they live in as crap towns?
How would you describe inner Bradford then?
Only a Socialist stooge like FiT1958 would describe inner Bradford as a beautiful place to live.
Have I said that Bradford is a beautiful place to live, no, crap towns is not a term that an MP should be using in a debate. It' is not Bradford councils fault that gives the city a negative image but the sad comments of you negative people that usually post on the T AND A. If you don't like Bradford why do you live there? And if you can do any better then I suggest you apply for a job with the council.
[quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gouldengirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FiT1958[/bold] wrote: Good to see Davies supporting his constituents in his speech by referring to the area that they live in as crap towns?[/p][/quote]How would you describe inner Bradford then?[/p][/quote]Only a Socialist stooge like FiT1958 would describe inner Bradford as a beautiful place to live.[/p][/quote]Have I said that Bradford is a beautiful place to live, no, crap towns is not a term that an MP should be using in a debate. It' is not Bradford councils fault that gives the city a negative image but the sad comments of you negative people that usually post on the T AND A. If you don't like Bradford why do you live there? And if you can do any better then I suggest you apply for a job with the council. FiT1958
  • Score: -28

10:27am Fri 6 Jun 14

BD16 says...

Grumpygirl wrote:
Albion. wrote:
If inner city areas were more attractive, people would probably consider living there but many inner city developments have proven to be a poor investment. While the population continues to increase, the spread to the suburbs is inevitable, there might be mistakes made at planning level but that won't stop it. This reads like Davies has simply compiled a list of his favourite bandwagons for this week.
Your point about Bradford’s inner city is a good one. In other less derelict cities brownfield developments and conversions are selling very well. The problem with brownfields in Bradford is not that they are brownfields, but that they are in brownfields in Bradford. Until the Council fixes the inner city rot all meaningful development will be on the periphery. City Hall have engineered a situation where everybody loses. Inner city people continue to live in squalor and we all lose what’s left of our countryside.

Call me cynical, but I believe Cllr Green is pursuing this policy because it maximises his revenue stream. I don’t think he cares about Bradford very much.
You're talking nonsense. Don't you realise that City park and Westfield are going to make Bradford the most des-res area in the north of England. At least, according to some they are....
[quote][p][bold]Grumpygirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: If inner city areas were more attractive, people would probably consider living there but many inner city developments have proven to be a poor investment. While the population continues to increase, the spread to the suburbs is inevitable, there might be mistakes made at planning level but that won't stop it. This reads like Davies has simply compiled a list of his favourite bandwagons for this week.[/p][/quote]Your point about Bradford’s inner city is a good one. In other less derelict cities brownfield developments and conversions are selling very well. The problem with brownfields in Bradford is not that they are brownfields, but that they are in brownfields in Bradford. Until the Council fixes the inner city rot all meaningful development will be on the periphery. City Hall have engineered a situation where everybody loses. Inner city people continue to live in squalor and we all lose what’s left of our countryside. Call me cynical, but I believe Cllr Green is pursuing this policy because it maximises his revenue stream. I don’t think he cares about Bradford very much.[/p][/quote]You're talking nonsense. Don't you realise that City park and Westfield are going to make Bradford the most des-res area in the north of England. At least, according to some they are.... BD16
  • Score: 11

10:37am Fri 6 Jun 14

eccythump says...

pellethead wrote:
SurprisedByJoyce wrote:
I agree. It's a sort of Gresham's law. Poor quality people will drive out the good. Very sad really. But the Council should be doing everything they can to discourage this.
Poor quality people? What are they?
I would imagine they are people who do not value their homes and surroundings. Those who allow their property and gardens to be filthy and unkempt. Those who are anti-social, be it by noise, or squalor emanating outwards from the place they inhabit.
[quote][p][bold]pellethead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SurprisedByJoyce[/bold] wrote: I agree. It's a sort of Gresham's law. Poor quality people will drive out the good. Very sad really. But the Council should be doing everything they can to discourage this.[/p][/quote]Poor quality people? What are they?[/p][/quote]I would imagine they are people who do not value their homes and surroundings. Those who allow their property and gardens to be filthy and unkempt. Those who are anti-social, be it by noise, or squalor emanating outwards from the place they inhabit. eccythump
  • Score: 41

10:37am Fri 6 Jun 14

Albion. says...

gouldengirl wrote:
FiT1958 wrote:
Good to see Davies supporting his constituents in his speech by referring to the area that they live in as crap towns?
Mr Davies quoted Crap Towns in the house. Now it's in Hansard and official. Bradford is the pits. It really is time the Council did something about Bradford’s negative image. This place will never improve until they do.
The council can do very little with a third world city. Even Paul Daniels couldn't magic up a better image for Bradford.
[quote][p][bold]gouldengirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FiT1958[/bold] wrote: Good to see Davies supporting his constituents in his speech by referring to the area that they live in as crap towns?[/p][/quote]Mr Davies quoted Crap Towns in the house. Now it's in Hansard and official. Bradford is the pits. It really is time the Council did something about Bradford’s negative image. This place will never improve until they do.[/p][/quote]The council can do very little with a third world city. Even Paul Daniels couldn't magic up a better image for Bradford. Albion.
  • Score: 32

12:41pm Fri 6 Jun 14

BCFC1911 says...

Albion. wrote:
gouldengirl wrote:
FiT1958 wrote:
Good to see Davies supporting his constituents in his speech by referring to the area that they live in as crap towns?
Mr Davies quoted Crap Towns in the house. Now it's in Hansard and official. Bradford is the pits. It really is time the Council did something about Bradford’s negative image. This place will never improve until they do.
The council can do very little with a third world city. Even Paul Daniels couldn't magic up a better image for Bradford.
Or even Dynamo and he's from Bradford.

See he got out quick as soon as the money rolled in

Keeping it real
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gouldengirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FiT1958[/bold] wrote: Good to see Davies supporting his constituents in his speech by referring to the area that they live in as crap towns?[/p][/quote]Mr Davies quoted Crap Towns in the house. Now it's in Hansard and official. Bradford is the pits. It really is time the Council did something about Bradford’s negative image. This place will never improve until they do.[/p][/quote]The council can do very little with a third world city. Even Paul Daniels couldn't magic up a better image for Bradford.[/p][/quote]Or even Dynamo and he's from Bradford. See he got out quick as soon as the money rolled in Keeping it real BCFC1911
  • Score: 15

12:43pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Robin of Loxley says...

Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off.

Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?
Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off. Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ? Robin of Loxley
  • Score: 0

12:48pm Fri 6 Jun 14

linebacker2 says...

Anyone ever heard of one of these NIMBY's moving to an inner city brownfield development themselves rather than just expecting others to do so?
Anyone ever heard of one of these NIMBY's moving to an inner city brownfield development themselves rather than just expecting others to do so? linebacker2
  • Score: -11

1:11pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Baildon Bystander says...

Nice to see that the T&A gave the planners the opportunity to respond. Oh, hang on a minute, they didn't......Never mind, the T&A's never really been interested in a balanced debate, has it?
Nice to see that the T&A gave the planners the opportunity to respond. Oh, hang on a minute, they didn't......Never mind, the T&A's never really been interested in a balanced debate, has it? Baildon Bystander
  • Score: -12

2:56pm Fri 6 Jun 14

pcmanners says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off.

Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?
Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off. Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?[/p][/quote]Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC pcmanners
  • Score: 2

3:07pm Fri 6 Jun 14

BCFC1911 says...

pcmanners wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off.

Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?
Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC
he must have

I have just popped out to the shop and have been about 20 mins and in those 20 mins 38 thumbs up were posted.

Thats impressive lol
[quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off. Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?[/p][/quote]Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC[/p][/quote]he must have I have just popped out to the shop and have been about 20 mins and in those 20 mins 38 thumbs up were posted. Thats impressive lol BCFC1911
  • Score: 4

3:14pm Fri 6 Jun 14

pcmanners says...

BCFC1911 wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off.

Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?
Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC
he must have

I have just popped out to the shop and have been about 20 mins and in those 20 mins 38 thumbs up were posted.

Thats impressive lol
Yes, but how does he do it? He also seems to be voting for Albion too. Are they the same person?
[quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off. Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?[/p][/quote]Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC[/p][/quote]he must have I have just popped out to the shop and have been about 20 mins and in those 20 mins 38 thumbs up were posted. Thats impressive lol[/p][/quote]Yes, but how does he do it? He also seems to be voting for Albion too. Are they the same person? pcmanners
  • Score: -1

3:27pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Albion. says...

pcmanners wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off.

Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?
Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC
he must have

I have just popped out to the shop and have been about 20 mins and in those 20 mins 38 thumbs up were posted.

Thats impressive lol
Yes, but how does he do it? He also seems to be voting for Albion too. Are they the same person?
No!
[quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off. Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?[/p][/quote]Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC[/p][/quote]he must have I have just popped out to the shop and have been about 20 mins and in those 20 mins 38 thumbs up were posted. Thats impressive lol[/p][/quote]Yes, but how does he do it? He also seems to be voting for Albion too. Are they the same person?[/p][/quote]No! Albion.
  • Score: 1

3:29pm Fri 6 Jun 14

BCFC1911 says...

pcmanners wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off.

Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?
Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC
he must have

I have just popped out to the shop and have been about 20 mins and in those 20 mins 38 thumbs up were posted.

Thats impressive lol
Yes, but how does he do it? He also seems to be voting for Albion too. Are they the same person?
I dont think so. He will have just made generic email address like robinofloxley@g****.
com then another one robinofloxley1@g****
.com etc etc and registered all the accounts on here

I doubt he/ she is bright enough to manipulate the page code so by doing this just proves how sad they actually are
[quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off. Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?[/p][/quote]Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC[/p][/quote]he must have I have just popped out to the shop and have been about 20 mins and in those 20 mins 38 thumbs up were posted. Thats impressive lol[/p][/quote]Yes, but how does he do it? He also seems to be voting for Albion too. Are they the same person?[/p][/quote]I dont think so. He will have just made generic email address like robinofloxley@g****. com then another one robinofloxley1@g**** .com etc etc and registered all the accounts on here I doubt he/ she is bright enough to manipulate the page code so by doing this just proves how sad they actually are BCFC1911
  • Score: 4

3:33pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Albion. says...

Albion. wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off.

Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?
Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC
he must have

I have just popped out to the shop and have been about 20 mins and in those 20 mins 38 thumbs up were posted.

Thats impressive lol
Yes, but how does he do it? He also seems to be voting for Albion too. Are they the same person?
No!
If you think that, then he must also be about the first half-dozen on here. He's just trying to confuse you, if you knew both of our history on here you wouldn't even think that he and I were the same. If you wan't multi-IDs, look towards RollandSmoke or the Baildon collective.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off. Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?[/p][/quote]Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC[/p][/quote]he must have I have just popped out to the shop and have been about 20 mins and in those 20 mins 38 thumbs up were posted. Thats impressive lol[/p][/quote]Yes, but how does he do it? He also seems to be voting for Albion too. Are they the same person?[/p][/quote]No![/p][/quote]If you think that, then he must also be about the first half-dozen on here. He's just trying to confuse you, if you knew both of our history on here you wouldn't even think that he and I were the same. If you wan't multi-IDs, look towards RollandSmoke or the Baildon collective. Albion.
  • Score: -5

4:42pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Robin of Loxley says...

pcmanners wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off.

Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?
Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC
Hi buddy.

Maybe there's loads of people on here who share my view(s)?

:)
[quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off. Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?[/p][/quote]Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC[/p][/quote]Hi buddy. Maybe there's loads of people on here who share my view(s)? :) Robin of Loxley
  • Score: -9

4:51pm Fri 6 Jun 14

BD16 says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off.

Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?
Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC
Hi buddy.

Maybe there's loads of people on here who share my view(s)?

:)
Iona Cortina and the Hoffster would certainly agree with your views.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off. Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?[/p][/quote]Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC[/p][/quote]Hi buddy. Maybe there's loads of people on here who share my view(s)? :)[/p][/quote]Iona Cortina and the Hoffster would certainly agree with your views. BD16
  • Score: 9

4:59pm Fri 6 Jun 14

pcmanners says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off.

Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?
Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC
Hi buddy.

Maybe there's loads of people on here who share my view(s)?

:)
I'm sure they do Hoffster. I think you talk a lot of sense. It's just difficult to believe that all 40 of your fan club would turn up to vote within half an hour.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off. Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?[/p][/quote]Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC[/p][/quote]Hi buddy. Maybe there's loads of people on here who share my view(s)? :)[/p][/quote]I'm sure they do Hoffster. I think you talk a lot of sense. It's just difficult to believe that all 40 of your fan club would turn up to vote within half an hour. pcmanners
  • Score: 5

5:11pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Grumpygirl says...

Albion. wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
BCFC1911 wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off.

Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?
Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC
he must have

I have just popped out to the shop and have been about 20 mins and in those 20 mins 38 thumbs up were posted.

Thats impressive lol
Yes, but how does he do it? He also seems to be voting for Albion too. Are they the same person?
No!
Sorry Albion, I don’t believe you. Why would somebody like the Hoffster vote for you, a person whose opinions he typically can’t stand, unless you are one and the same person.

I think the Hoffster is your agent-provocateur sock-puppet. And since you have admitted to being a professional blogger you’re probably the one fiddling with the web site. Please stop.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCFC1911[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off. Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?[/p][/quote]Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC[/p][/quote]he must have I have just popped out to the shop and have been about 20 mins and in those 20 mins 38 thumbs up were posted. Thats impressive lol[/p][/quote]Yes, but how does he do it? He also seems to be voting for Albion too. Are they the same person?[/p][/quote]No![/p][/quote]Sorry Albion, I don’t believe you. Why would somebody like the Hoffster vote for you, a person whose opinions he typically can’t stand, unless you are one and the same person. I think the Hoffster is your agent-provocateur sock-puppet. And since you have admitted to being a professional blogger you’re probably the one fiddling with the web site. Please stop. Grumpygirl
  • Score: 5

5:13pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Tinybantam says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off.

Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?
Philip Davies is a very hard working MP, which you would no doubt have known if you lived in his constituency like I do........and he is honest too. He has helped me several times since becoming the MP for Shipley, and made sure that I got answers to the questions I asked him. Not like Chris Leslie, who promised me that he would move heaven and earth to solve my problem, and then I never heard from him again.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off. Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?[/p][/quote]Philip Davies is a very hard working MP, which you would no doubt have known if you lived in his constituency like I do........and he is honest too. He has helped me several times since becoming the MP for Shipley, and made sure that I got answers to the questions I asked him. Not like Chris Leslie, who promised me that he would move heaven and earth to solve my problem, and then I never heard from him again. Tinybantam
  • Score: 10

5:48pm Fri 6 Jun 14

awasteoftime says...

It is good to see the local MP making noises about poor planning decisions on green fields affecting local people. However I noted that the Chamber was nearly empty as all MP's were up in Newark. It is no good blaming the Bradford Planners, they DO NOT MAKE THE RULES. They are working to the rules set up by Dodgy Dave and his cronies. They have made the planning rules so lax that developers can get away with almost anything. They can even build on Green Belt if Bradford Council would like them to. The MP needs to get his own party knocked into shape as it is them are desperate to so more and more new homes built the housing the millions of immigrants they are still letting into the Country. Just having a spouting session in an empty chamber will achieve nothing at all.
It is good to see the local MP making noises about poor planning decisions on green fields affecting local people. However I noted that the Chamber was nearly empty as all MP's were up in Newark. It is no good blaming the Bradford Planners, they DO NOT MAKE THE RULES. They are working to the rules set up by Dodgy Dave and his cronies. They have made the planning rules so lax that developers can get away with almost anything. They can even build on Green Belt if Bradford Council would like them to. The MP needs to get his own party knocked into shape as it is them are desperate to so more and more new homes built the housing the millions of immigrants they are still letting into the Country. Just having a spouting session in an empty chamber will achieve nothing at all. awasteoftime
  • Score: 2

6:42pm Fri 6 Jun 14

baildongreen says...

I've just joined so I can comment on what seems to me an important debate. I left the Bradford Labour party way back in 2008 as a protest because it had been completely taken over by the Mirpuri godfathers. Ordinary members just didn't belong to the inner circle and were routinely ignored except at election time when they wanted a few idiots to deliver leaflets. I live in Baildon so I suppose quite a few of the select ones will know who I am. Well if you want to get in touch and say sorry, my email hasn't changed.

Planning in Bradford is a disaster. It's driven entirely by the need to maximise Council Tax revenue and Business Rates, and nothing else. As we saw down at Buck Lane, people such as Councillors Green and Hinchcliffe will tell any lie that's convenient to get planning permission and then promptly go back on their promises. You might say that's just par for the course for two-bit politicians. However what's really scary is that the Officials go along with and even participate in these ploys.

Planning in Bradford is an unholy and unspoken alliance between the Labour Administration, the Developers and the new Tory planning rules. Everybody else loses except for those in power.
I've just joined so I can comment on what seems to me an important debate. I left the Bradford Labour party way back in 2008 as a protest because it had been completely taken over by the Mirpuri godfathers. Ordinary members just didn't belong to the inner circle and were routinely ignored except at election time when they wanted a few idiots to deliver leaflets. I live in Baildon so I suppose quite a few of the select ones will know who I am. Well if you want to get in touch and say sorry, my email hasn't changed. Planning in Bradford is a disaster. It's driven entirely by the need to maximise Council Tax revenue and Business Rates, and nothing else. As we saw down at Buck Lane, people such as Councillors Green and Hinchcliffe will tell any lie that's convenient to get planning permission and then promptly go back on their promises. You might say that's just par for the course for two-bit politicians. However what's really scary is that the Officials go along with and even participate in these ploys. Planning in Bradford is an unholy and unspoken alliance between the Labour Administration, the Developers and the new Tory planning rules. Everybody else loses except for those in power. baildongreen
  • Score: 11

8:04pm Fri 6 Jun 14

cockadoodledo says...

Can't be blaming the planners they only implement the rules which come from Westminster. Cameron once said on Countryfile, he would no more allow building on Green belt than put his children's lives at risk, and what did he do? Clearly Cameron is not a guy to be trusted! Phillip should not be blaming the planners.Anyway what was the result of the debate which is the important issue?
The T and A have failed to tell us.,
Can't be blaming the planners they only implement the rules which come from Westminster. Cameron once said on Countryfile, he would no more allow building on Green belt than put his children's lives at risk, and what did he do? Clearly Cameron is not a guy to be trusted! Phillip should not be blaming the planners.Anyway what was the result of the debate which is the important issue? The T and A have failed to tell us., cockadoodledo
  • Score: -2

9:20pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Robin of Loxley says...

pcmanners wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off.

Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?
Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC
Hi buddy.

Maybe there's loads of people on here who share my view(s)?

:)
I'm sure they do Hoffster. I think you talk a lot of sense. It's just difficult to believe that all 40 of your fan club would turn up to vote within half an hour.
It's quite easy really.

All you have to do is text/e-mail your supporters and they're on here like a shot :)
[quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off. Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?[/p][/quote]Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC[/p][/quote]Hi buddy. Maybe there's loads of people on here who share my view(s)? :)[/p][/quote]I'm sure they do Hoffster. I think you talk a lot of sense. It's just difficult to believe that all 40 of your fan club would turn up to vote within half an hour.[/p][/quote]It's quite easy really. All you have to do is text/e-mail your supporters and they're on here like a shot :) Robin of Loxley
  • Score: -5

10:49pm Fri 6 Jun 14

allinittogether says...

I wonder what Mr Davies' colleague Eric Pickles made of his comments since he would steam roller the application through if the council declined it?
I wonder what Mr Davies' colleague Eric Pickles made of his comments since he would steam roller the application through if the council declined it? allinittogether
  • Score: 0

9:58am Sat 7 Jun 14

BD16 says...

Robin of Loxley wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off.

Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?
Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC
Hi buddy.

Maybe there's loads of people on here who share my view(s)?

:)
I'm sure they do Hoffster. I think you talk a lot of sense. It's just difficult to believe that all 40 of your fan club would turn up to vote within half an hour.
It's quite easy really.

All you have to do is text/e-mail your supporters and they're on here like a shot :)
You make it sound like you are the leader of one of those religions where everybody follows blindly without thinking of anything for themselves.
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off. Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?[/p][/quote]Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC[/p][/quote]Hi buddy. Maybe there's loads of people on here who share my view(s)? :)[/p][/quote]I'm sure they do Hoffster. I think you talk a lot of sense. It's just difficult to believe that all 40 of your fan club would turn up to vote within half an hour.[/p][/quote]It's quite easy really. All you have to do is text/e-mail your supporters and they're on here like a shot :)[/p][/quote]You make it sound like you are the leader of one of those religions where everybody follows blindly without thinking of anything for themselves. BD16
  • Score: 1

11:11am Sat 7 Jun 14

Albion. says...

BD16 wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
Robin of Loxley wrote:
Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off.

Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?
Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC
Hi buddy.

Maybe there's loads of people on here who share my view(s)?

:)
I'm sure they do Hoffster. I think you talk a lot of sense. It's just difficult to believe that all 40 of your fan club would turn up to vote within half an hour.
It's quite easy really.

All you have to do is text/e-mail your supporters and they're on here like a shot :)
You make it sound like you are the leader of one of those religions where everybody follows blindly without thinking of anything for themselves.
That's ALL of 'em.
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Loxley[/bold] wrote: Election coming up in less than a year. No wonder Davies is mouthing off. Where was he last year ? - and the year before that ?[/p][/quote]Hi Hoffster, how do you manage to vote for yourself so often? The T&A seems to have a system in place hat means you can only vote once. Do you have lots of user names? Thank you. PC[/p][/quote]Hi buddy. Maybe there's loads of people on here who share my view(s)? :)[/p][/quote]I'm sure they do Hoffster. I think you talk a lot of sense. It's just difficult to believe that all 40 of your fan club would turn up to vote within half an hour.[/p][/quote]It's quite easy really. All you have to do is text/e-mail your supporters and they're on here like a shot :)[/p][/quote]You make it sound like you are the leader of one of those religions where everybody follows blindly without thinking of anything for themselves.[/p][/quote]That's ALL of 'em. Albion.
  • Score: 5

11:08am Sun 8 Jun 14

pjl20 says...

It is about time that Bradford MDC no longer had control over large areas outside of Bradford City.

A new District Council is required for Airedale & Wharfedale, so that we regain control of all planning and development decisions in the towns, villages and hamlets where we are residents.

Although our two MPs, Philip Davies and Kris Hopkins are both in favour of such a change, Eric Pickles, as Secretary of State at the DCLG and in consequence, the coalition government, will not permit this move, at least until a change of master takes place in May 2015 (we hope).
It is about time that Bradford MDC no longer had control over large areas outside of Bradford City. A new District Council is required for Airedale & Wharfedale, so that we regain control of all planning and development decisions in the towns, villages and hamlets where we are residents. Although our two MPs, Philip Davies and Kris Hopkins are both in favour of such a change, Eric Pickles, as Secretary of State at the DCLG and in consequence, the coalition government, will not permit this move, at least until a change of master takes place in May 2015 (we hope). pjl20
  • Score: 1

4:58pm Mon 9 Jun 14

RONNIEBB2 says...

One development that was given the green light by Bradford Planning in Wilsden has already proved a nightmare ! Harron Homes are bullding on Phase One ( 82 homes ) with a total projected of 260+ on fields that will link Crack Lane with the cricket field on Wilsden Road !
Objections were raised by residents that were completely ignored and despite providing local knowledge of potential disasters approval was pushed through....since October of last year I have personally had raw sewage pour into my garden on over a dozen occasions, none of which ( apparently ) related to the new build development yet in twenty years of residing here has it happened before .... land drains and former mine workings have been disturbed and yet there is no change to the volume of excess water that is entering the overloaded Victorian systems in Wilsden ( according to Harron Homes / Yorkshire Water or the Council) in fact the devloper has been completely absolved of any wrong doing by the Council and YW ....Cynical perhaps but it is hard to accept my sewage plighht as coincidental ?!
Developers like Harron Homes are granted permission because of profits ! They are not building homes that first time buyers could afford. I'm all for new homes, the statistics say we need them....but have the infrastructure to support them - drains, schools, health care, roads - none of which have been thought through here The Council will reap healthy Band E+ council tax with very little outlay on these new homes leaving long standing residents to cope with the fallout....and it will happen again and again around Bradford and district. Better and more interactive consultation and real reasons for rejecting independent reports / knowledge and objections - WILL PROBABLY NEVER HAPPEN until true unbiased opinions are based on these elements ! Dare I say it.....corruption in high places ? Surely not ! I think more of us should persue Freedom of Information action on how some of these decisions are made !
One development that was given the green light by Bradford Planning in Wilsden has already proved a nightmare ! Harron Homes are bullding on Phase One ( 82 homes ) with a total projected of 260+ on fields that will link Crack Lane with the cricket field on Wilsden Road ! Objections were raised by residents that were completely ignored and despite providing local knowledge of potential disasters approval was pushed through....since October of last year I have personally had raw sewage pour into my garden on over a dozen occasions, none of which ( apparently ) related to the new build development yet in twenty years of residing here has it happened before .... land drains and former mine workings have been disturbed and yet there is no change to the volume of excess water that is entering the overloaded Victorian systems in Wilsden ( according to Harron Homes / Yorkshire Water or the Council) in fact the devloper has been completely absolved of any wrong doing by the Council and YW ....Cynical perhaps but it is hard to accept my sewage plighht as coincidental ?! Developers like Harron Homes are granted permission because of profits ! They are not building homes that first time buyers could afford. I'm all for new homes, the statistics say we need them....but have the infrastructure to support them - drains, schools, health care, roads - none of which have been thought through here The Council will reap healthy Band E+ council tax with very little outlay on these new homes leaving long standing residents to cope with the fallout....and it will happen again and again around Bradford and district. Better and more interactive consultation and real reasons for rejecting independent reports / knowledge and objections - WILL PROBABLY NEVER HAPPEN until true unbiased opinions are based on these elements ! Dare I say it.....corruption in high places ? Surely not ! I think more of us should persue Freedom of Information action on how some of these decisions are made ! RONNIEBB2
  • Score: 3

8:04am Tue 10 Jun 14

khalidmalikbadass says...

Well heaton is not as good now so u cant just say it about them place
Well heaton is not as good now so u cant just say it about them place khalidmalikbadass
  • Score: 0

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