Old meets new as Broadway begins to transform the city centre

Old meets new as Broadway begins to transform the city centre

The Westfield development rising up from beyond Broadway

Work on the Westfield development is moving along, as the steel framework rises up alongside the old Nat West building on Market Street

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The speed at which Westfield’s Broadway development is taking shape is helping to bring a “feel-good factor” to Bradford, according to business owners and the city’s Chamber of Commerce.

The site of the under-construction shopping centre has gone from a quiet, unused hole in the ground to a buzzing construction site with progress on the £260 million building now clearly visible from day to day.

Westfield acquired the site in 2004 and planned to have the shopping centre opened by 2007, but the recession led to it being shelved, leaving many questioning its future.

Construction finally got under way early this year and Mike Cartwright, policy executive at Bradford Chamber of Commerce, said he was “very impressed” with the speed at which the project was progressing.

“You can now really see things changing on the ground, which is what we have wanted for such a long time,” he said.

“It’s improving perceptions of Bradford, and increasing the feel-good factor and confidence of local businesses. The sooner it’s completed, the better.”

The steel framework of the modern development is markedly different to the Victorian architecture of Little Germany and certain adjoining buildings in the city centre, such as Nat West on Market Street, but Mr Cartwright is hopeful of a successful blend between the old and the new.

“It will be two contrasting styles, but we’ve had that yawning gap for so long between Little Germany and the city centre,” he said. “Having that space filled, even though the styles of the buildings will be very different, will knit the two areas together, which is what we want.

“Residents and businesses in Little Germany have felt distanced from the city, but the advent of Broadway will help bring them closer.”

A spokesman for the Midland Hotel on Forster Square, which directly overlooks the Broadway site, said people had been visiting the hotel purely to see how construction was going.

“Just the development itself, even before the shops are there, is proving to be an attraction,” the spokesman said.

“People are coming from all over Yorkshire and beyond just to see Westfield being built, so it’s very exciting for us.

“It’s been a long time coming, but it is something that Bradford deserves, and something it really needs. A lot of guests have been saying they will come back once it’s done, so it’s all very positive news.”

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8:27am Thu 8 May 14

angry bradfordian says...

"Westfield acquired the site in 2004 and planned to have the shopping centre opened by 2007, but the recession led to it being shelved, leaving many questioning its future."

Err... The recession started in 2008. It's really good news that something's happening, but can we please stop reporting that the 10 year delay was caused by the recession?
"Westfield acquired the site in 2004 and planned to have the shopping centre opened by 2007, but the recession led to it being shelved, leaving many questioning its future." Err... The recession started in 2008. It's really good news that something's happening, but can we please stop reporting that the 10 year delay was caused by the recession? angry bradfordian
  • Score: 24

9:16am Thu 8 May 14

realitystrikesagain says...

angry bradfordian wrote:
"Westfield acquired the site in 2004 and planned to have the shopping centre opened by 2007, but the recession led to it being shelved, leaving many questioning its future."

Err... The recession started in 2008. It's really good news that something's happening, but can we please stop reporting that the 10 year delay was caused by the recession?
My comment on the story above would have gone something like.....
It's absolutely fantastic. I drive past every day on school runs and feel the optimism and generally buzz and excitement. I can't wait till it opens. I've lived in Bradford all my life and would love to shop in Bradford. The sooner it opens, the sooner I can stop being forced to visit leeds to shop. This will bring jobs, optimism and create many new business's.

Unfortunately, some amongst us just live to whine and moan. Look. If it's not for you, it's not for you. You'll always have your pound shop to comfort you. But please refrain from putting a bad spin on anything positive.
[quote][p][bold]angry bradfordian[/bold] wrote: "Westfield acquired the site in 2004 and planned to have the shopping centre opened by 2007, but the recession led to it being shelved, leaving many questioning its future." Err... The recession started in 2008. It's really good news that something's happening, but can we please stop reporting that the 10 year delay was caused by the recession?[/p][/quote]My comment on the story above would have gone something like..... It's absolutely fantastic. I drive past every day on school runs and feel the optimism and generally buzz and excitement. I can't wait till it opens. I've lived in Bradford all my life and would love to shop in Bradford. The sooner it opens, the sooner I can stop being forced to visit leeds to shop. This will bring jobs, optimism and create many new business's. Unfortunately, some amongst us just live to whine and moan. Look. If it's not for you, it's not for you. You'll always have your pound shop to comfort you. But please refrain from putting a bad spin on anything positive. realitystrikesagain
  • Score: 34

9:35am Thu 8 May 14

Not so simple says...

Was driving down Manchester road last week and had a right laugh....there was a sign for the the Westfield centre....great to see the development well underway albeit a little delayed. Should he good for the city economy however one has to consider what is going to happen to the rest of the city centre....probably more vacant shops unless the smart council think of reducing rates/taxes to bring more business into the area....common sense needed which I'm ashamed to admit is rather lacking in the long term view in today's world.
Was driving down Manchester road last week and had a right laugh....there was a sign for the the Westfield centre....great to see the development well underway albeit a little delayed. Should he good for the city economy however one has to consider what is going to happen to the rest of the city centre....probably more vacant shops unless the smart council think of reducing rates/taxes to bring more business into the area....common sense needed which I'm ashamed to admit is rather lacking in the long term view in today's world. Not so simple
  • Score: 18

9:39am Thu 8 May 14

collos25 says...

You will have to still go to Leeds to shop the new Bradford shopping centre will sell nothing that is not already available in the city.All that is happening is established retailers are shutting their old shops and moving to the new ones creating a wasteland of much of the city. Its not new shops only new buildings.
You will have to still go to Leeds to shop the new Bradford shopping centre will sell nothing that is not already available in the city.All that is happening is established retailers are shutting their old shops and moving to the new ones creating a wasteland of much of the city. Its not new shops only new buildings. collos25
  • Score: -10

9:40am Thu 8 May 14

Old Dave says...

Pretty soon, the nay-sayers and doom mongers will have less to say as walking through town you can seen this building going up. It is happening, and nobody can deny it.

What we need now is the council and other agencies to have a plan to make sure that this does not fail in regenerating the city. If we expect Westfield alone to transform the city, then we will be sadly deluding ourselves, and our local councillors have a habit of doing just that.

The whole City centre needs a plan. We need sound market provision that compliments Westfield and that means properly managed markets that include appropriate parking provision and facilities.
The current Kirkgate Centre also needs looking at. What will it become when eventually all of the bigger names move to Westfield?
What about the streets around Westfield? Market Street, Darley Street, Kirkgate, Ivegate? Can these be transformed by Westfield too, or will they degenerate further.

My biggest bugbear trying to shop in Bradford is the seeming unregulated sellers hawking their goods (or harassing me for money for charities) as I walk around, and the standard of driving in and around the City Centre. If we have people coming to Bradford for the first time or revisiting the city having not shopped here for years, we need to make their experience a positive one. The council and police have a role in making this happen. City centre wardens moving illegal sellers on, and police being visible making sure that Leeds Road, Manchester Road, Canal Road, Manningham Lane and Wakefield Road, are tidier, safer and therefore make our city seem more friendly.
Pretty soon, the nay-sayers and doom mongers will have less to say as walking through town you can seen this building going up. It is happening, and nobody can deny it. What we need now is the council and other agencies to have a plan to make sure that this does not fail in regenerating the city. If we expect Westfield alone to transform the city, then we will be sadly deluding ourselves, and our local councillors have a habit of doing just that. The whole City centre needs a plan. We need sound market provision that compliments Westfield and that means properly managed markets that include appropriate parking provision and facilities. The current Kirkgate Centre also needs looking at. What will it become when eventually all of the bigger names move to Westfield? What about the streets around Westfield? Market Street, Darley Street, Kirkgate, Ivegate? Can these be transformed by Westfield too, or will they degenerate further. My biggest bugbear trying to shop in Bradford is the seeming unregulated sellers hawking their goods (or harassing me for money for charities) as I walk around, and the standard of driving in and around the City Centre. If we have people coming to Bradford for the first time or revisiting the city having not shopped here for years, we need to make their experience a positive one. The council and police have a role in making this happen. City centre wardens moving illegal sellers on, and police being visible making sure that Leeds Road, Manchester Road, Canal Road, Manningham Lane and Wakefield Road, are tidier, safer and therefore make our city seem more friendly. Old Dave
  • Score: 33

9:41am Thu 8 May 14

Freddy Elliot says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
angry bradfordian wrote:
"Westfield acquired the site in 2004 and planned to have the shopping centre opened by 2007, but the recession led to it being shelved, leaving many questioning its future."

Err... The recession started in 2008. It's really good news that something's happening, but can we please stop reporting that the 10 year delay was caused by the recession?
My comment on the story above would have gone something like.....
It's absolutely fantastic. I drive past every day on school runs and feel the optimism and generally buzz and excitement. I can't wait till it opens. I've lived in Bradford all my life and would love to shop in Bradford. The sooner it opens, the sooner I can stop being forced to visit leeds to shop. This will bring jobs, optimism and create many new business's.

Unfortunately, some amongst us just live to whine and moan. Look. If it's not for you, it's not for you. You'll always have your pound shop to comfort you. But please refrain from putting a bad spin on anything positive.
He's not being negative though is he. What he typed is true. Unfortunately for the Tand A we don't all have as short a memories as most.
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angry bradfordian[/bold] wrote: "Westfield acquired the site in 2004 and planned to have the shopping centre opened by 2007, but the recession led to it being shelved, leaving many questioning its future." Err... The recession started in 2008. It's really good news that something's happening, but can we please stop reporting that the 10 year delay was caused by the recession?[/p][/quote]My comment on the story above would have gone something like..... It's absolutely fantastic. I drive past every day on school runs and feel the optimism and generally buzz and excitement. I can't wait till it opens. I've lived in Bradford all my life and would love to shop in Bradford. The sooner it opens, the sooner I can stop being forced to visit leeds to shop. This will bring jobs, optimism and create many new business's. Unfortunately, some amongst us just live to whine and moan. Look. If it's not for you, it's not for you. You'll always have your pound shop to comfort you. But please refrain from putting a bad spin on anything positive.[/p][/quote]He's not being negative though is he. What he typed is true. Unfortunately for the Tand A we don't all have as short a memories as most. Freddy Elliot
  • Score: 15

9:49am Thu 8 May 14

angry bradfordian says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
angry bradfordian wrote:
"Westfield acquired the site in 2004 and planned to have the shopping centre opened by 2007, but the recession led to it being shelved, leaving many questioning its future."

Err... The recession started in 2008. It's really good news that something's happening, but can we please stop reporting that the 10 year delay was caused by the recession?
My comment on the story above would have gone something like.....
It's absolutely fantastic. I drive past every day on school runs and feel the optimism and generally buzz and excitement. I can't wait till it opens. I've lived in Bradford all my life and would love to shop in Bradford. The sooner it opens, the sooner I can stop being forced to visit leeds to shop. This will bring jobs, optimism and create many new business's.

Unfortunately, some amongst us just live to whine and moan. Look. If it's not for you, it's not for you. You'll always have your pound shop to comfort you. But please refrain from putting a bad spin on anything positive.
I did say it was 'really good news'!

My comment was about putting positive spin on something bad by reporting something that is blatantly untrue.
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angry bradfordian[/bold] wrote: "Westfield acquired the site in 2004 and planned to have the shopping centre opened by 2007, but the recession led to it being shelved, leaving many questioning its future." Err... The recession started in 2008. It's really good news that something's happening, but can we please stop reporting that the 10 year delay was caused by the recession?[/p][/quote]My comment on the story above would have gone something like..... It's absolutely fantastic. I drive past every day on school runs and feel the optimism and generally buzz and excitement. I can't wait till it opens. I've lived in Bradford all my life and would love to shop in Bradford. The sooner it opens, the sooner I can stop being forced to visit leeds to shop. This will bring jobs, optimism and create many new business's. Unfortunately, some amongst us just live to whine and moan. Look. If it's not for you, it's not for you. You'll always have your pound shop to comfort you. But please refrain from putting a bad spin on anything positive.[/p][/quote]I did say it was 'really good news'! My comment was about putting positive spin on something bad by reporting something that is blatantly untrue. angry bradfordian
  • Score: 16

10:48am Thu 8 May 14

Albion. says...

It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel. Albion.
  • Score: -5

11:59am Thu 8 May 14

sammi10 says...

MY MUM PASSED IT THE OTHER DAY AND WAS SUPRISED BY HOW QUICKLEY IT WAS DEVELOPING. GOT TO BE A GOOD THING .THE TEENAGERS NEED SOMEWHERE TO SHOP AND WORK, SOME PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER WHEN BRADFORD HAD GOOD SHOPS AND A NIGHTLIFE TO RIVAL LEEDS BUT WE HAVE T TRY TO BRING IT BACK TO LIFE.
MY MUM PASSED IT THE OTHER DAY AND WAS SUPRISED BY HOW QUICKLEY IT WAS DEVELOPING. GOT TO BE A GOOD THING .THE TEENAGERS NEED SOMEWHERE TO SHOP AND WORK, SOME PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER WHEN BRADFORD HAD GOOD SHOPS AND A NIGHTLIFE TO RIVAL LEEDS[ I KNOW IT WAS BACK IN THE 80,S] BUT WE HAVE T TRY TO BRING IT BACK TO LIFE. sammi10
  • Score: 13

12:07pm Thu 8 May 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Looking at the perspectives of the view of Little Germany and Cathedral/ St Peter's House I was rather hoping there would be views of both sides of Church Bank through the new complex. It may be that will be the case, if not I think it is a missed opportunity to fuse 'old' Bradford with 'new' Bradford.
Looking at the perspectives of the view of Little Germany and Cathedral/ St Peter's House I was rather hoping there would be views of both sides of Church Bank through the new complex. It may be that will be the case, if not I think it is a missed opportunity to fuse 'old' Bradford with 'new' Bradford. Prisoner Cell Block A
  • Score: 10

5:20pm Thu 8 May 14

Bone_idle18 says...

surprised there's no comments.

Suppose there's no negatives to pick up on. City centre seems to be getting a boost, and people are feeling good about the development. It's flying up, so can't even moan that Westfield are all talk and no trousers.

Lots of work in Little Germany too, looks like a few empty building might get a new lease of life - woops, another positive. This must be so frustrating for the moaning minnies!
surprised there's no comments. Suppose there's no negatives to pick up on. City centre seems to be getting a boost, and people are feeling good about the development. It's flying up, so can't even moan that Westfield are all talk and no trousers. Lots of work in Little Germany too, looks like a few empty building might get a new lease of life - woops, another positive. This must be so frustrating for the moaning minnies! Bone_idle18
  • Score: 9

7:16pm Thu 8 May 14

CharlesVarrick says...

Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
I might have expected ol' misery guts to put in his penny's worth. Why don't you just sod off if you've nothing positive to say. You've already told us you don't live in Bradford so what the feck do you keep coming on here for? Sod off !!
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]I might have expected ol' misery guts to put in his penny's worth. Why don't you just sod off if you've nothing positive to say. You've already told us you don't live in Bradford so what the feck do you keep coming on here for? Sod off !! CharlesVarrick
  • Score: 1

7:18pm Thu 8 May 14

CharlesVarrick says...

Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
Snobby little f4cker !!!! Oh I like to shop in nice places with nice people. Really ?? People like you make me sick !!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]Snobby little f4cker !!!! Oh I like to shop in nice places with nice people. Really ?? People like you make me sick !!!!!!!! CharlesVarrick
  • Score: 0

8:52pm Thu 8 May 14

realitystrikesagain says...

CharlesVarrick wrote:
Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
Snobby little f4cker !!!! Oh I like to shop in nice places with nice people. Really ?? People like you make me sick !!!!!!!!
"like to shop in nice places with nice people" ha ha ha ha ha ha, what a joke of a thing you are. Your likes tend to do their shopping at the bookies.

Oh and as for this being a novel centre that will last for a year????? Take a look at forster square. Can't even find parking there due to it being so busy.

Finally for those who don't want to, won't want to shop here when it opens. Good riddance to you. Shut your mouths and stick your opinions where the sun don't shine because true Bradfordians love this city through thick and thin. In lean times we were disappointed but stood by in anticipation. In the good times we'll share in this great city's success.
[quote][p][bold]CharlesVarrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]Snobby little f4cker !!!! Oh I like to shop in nice places with nice people. Really ?? People like you make me sick !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]"like to shop in nice places with nice people" ha ha ha ha ha ha, what a joke of a thing you are. Your likes tend to do their shopping at the bookies. Oh and as for this being a novel centre that will last for a year????? Take a look at forster square. Can't even find parking there due to it being so busy. Finally for those who don't want to, won't want to shop here when it opens. Good riddance to you. Shut your mouths and stick your opinions where the sun don't shine because true Bradfordians love this city through thick and thin. In lean times we were disappointed but stood by in anticipation. In the good times we'll share in this great city's success. realitystrikesagain
  • Score: 14

9:01pm Thu 8 May 14

CharlesVarrick says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
CharlesVarrick wrote:
Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
Snobby little f4cker !!!! Oh I like to shop in nice places with nice people. Really ?? People like you make me sick !!!!!!!!
"like to shop in nice places with nice people" ha ha ha ha ha ha, what a joke of a thing you are. Your likes tend to do their shopping at the bookies.

Oh and as for this being a novel centre that will last for a year????? Take a look at forster square. Can't even find parking there due to it being so busy.

Finally for those who don't want to, won't want to shop here when it opens. Good riddance to you. Shut your mouths and stick your opinions where the sun don't shine because true Bradfordians love this city through thick and thin. In lean times we were disappointed but stood by in anticipation. In the good times we'll share in this great city's success.
Thank you. Very well said !!!!
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CharlesVarrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]Snobby little f4cker !!!! Oh I like to shop in nice places with nice people. Really ?? People like you make me sick !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]"like to shop in nice places with nice people" ha ha ha ha ha ha, what a joke of a thing you are. Your likes tend to do their shopping at the bookies. Oh and as for this being a novel centre that will last for a year????? Take a look at forster square. Can't even find parking there due to it being so busy. Finally for those who don't want to, won't want to shop here when it opens. Good riddance to you. Shut your mouths and stick your opinions where the sun don't shine because true Bradfordians love this city through thick and thin. In lean times we were disappointed but stood by in anticipation. In the good times we'll share in this great city's success.[/p][/quote]Thank you. Very well said !!!! CharlesVarrick
  • Score: 10

9:43pm Thu 8 May 14

Bradford56 says...

This is excellent for our fantastic City! Cannot wait until it's completed and looking forward to Christmas shopping in my home town for 2015! No more trips to Manchester and Harrogate for me! Avoid Leeds as it's only so successful because of people the people who contribute to it from BD postcodes. Hopefully people will start to support their home City ! I know I will and many of my colleagues and friends are saying the same. Exciting time for Bradford!!
This is excellent for our fantastic City! Cannot wait until it's completed and looking forward to Christmas shopping in my home town for 2015! No more trips to Manchester and Harrogate for me! Avoid Leeds as it's only so successful because of people the people who contribute to it from BD postcodes. Hopefully people will start to support their home City ! I know I will and many of my colleagues and friends are saying the same. Exciting time for Bradford!! Bradford56
  • Score: 16

1:48pm Fri 9 May 14

sammi10 says...

JUST BEEN TO LEEDS,CALLED IN THE NEW TRINITY SHOPPING CENTRE. GREAT TO BE UNDER COVER AS IT WAS RAINING , HAD A GOOD LOOK AROUND AND THOUGHT TO MY SELF CANT WAIT TILL WESTFIELD OPENS , MAIN REASON , I WILL BE HOME IN FIFTEEN MIN. ALSO I NOTICED NOT ALL THE SHOPS WERE TAKEN, AND THE REST OF LEEDS WASNT MUCH BETTER, LOTS OF EMPTY SHOPS SCRUFFY, AREAS TOO, THE MARKETS HAVE BECOME TATTY, SO EVEN THOUGH LEEDS HAS HAD A LOT OF MONEY SPENT ON IT, IT HAS ITS SCRUFFY AREAS. ONE THING LEEDS DOES HAVE IS A GOOD CAFE CULTURE DUE TO THE UNIVERSITY. BRADFORD SHOULD BE LOOKING AT HARROGATE , SMALL BUT VERY WELL LOOKED AFTER, CLASSY. WE CAN BUT TRY.
JUST BEEN TO LEEDS,CALLED IN THE NEW TRINITY SHOPPING CENTRE. GREAT TO BE UNDER COVER AS IT WAS RAINING , HAD A GOOD LOOK AROUND AND THOUGHT TO MY SELF CANT WAIT TILL WESTFIELD OPENS , MAIN REASON , I WILL BE HOME IN FIFTEEN MIN. ALSO I NOTICED NOT ALL THE SHOPS WERE TAKEN, AND THE REST OF LEEDS WASNT MUCH BETTER, LOTS OF EMPTY SHOPS SCRUFFY, AREAS TOO, THE MARKETS HAVE BECOME TATTY, SO EVEN THOUGH LEEDS HAS HAD A LOT OF MONEY SPENT ON IT, IT HAS ITS SCRUFFY AREAS. ONE THING LEEDS DOES HAVE IS A GOOD CAFE CULTURE DUE TO THE UNIVERSITY. BRADFORD SHOULD BE LOOKING AT HARROGATE , SMALL BUT VERY WELL LOOKED AFTER, CLASSY. WE CAN BUT TRY. sammi10
  • Score: 10

3:04pm Sat 10 May 14

collos25 says...

sammi10 wrote:
JUST BEEN TO LEEDS,CALLED IN THE NEW TRINITY SHOPPING CENTRE. GREAT TO BE UNDER COVER AS IT WAS RAINING , HAD A GOOD LOOK AROUND AND THOUGHT TO MY SELF CANT WAIT TILL WESTFIELD OPENS , MAIN REASON , I WILL BE HOME IN FIFTEEN MIN. ALSO I NOTICED NOT ALL THE SHOPS WERE TAKEN, AND THE REST OF LEEDS WASNT MUCH BETTER, LOTS OF EMPTY SHOPS SCRUFFY, AREAS TOO, THE MARKETS HAVE BECOME TATTY, SO EVEN THOUGH LEEDS HAS HAD A LOT OF MONEY SPENT ON IT, IT HAS ITS SCRUFFY AREAS. ONE THING LEEDS DOES HAVE IS A GOOD CAFE CULTURE DUE TO THE UNIVERSITY. BRADFORD SHOULD BE LOOKING AT HARROGATE , SMALL BUT VERY WELL LOOKED AFTER, CLASSY. WE CAN BUT TRY.
Turn your capitals off or do you always shout at people
[quote][p][bold]sammi10[/bold] wrote: JUST BEEN TO LEEDS,CALLED IN THE NEW TRINITY SHOPPING CENTRE. GREAT TO BE UNDER COVER AS IT WAS RAINING , HAD A GOOD LOOK AROUND AND THOUGHT TO MY SELF CANT WAIT TILL WESTFIELD OPENS , MAIN REASON , I WILL BE HOME IN FIFTEEN MIN. ALSO I NOTICED NOT ALL THE SHOPS WERE TAKEN, AND THE REST OF LEEDS WASNT MUCH BETTER, LOTS OF EMPTY SHOPS SCRUFFY, AREAS TOO, THE MARKETS HAVE BECOME TATTY, SO EVEN THOUGH LEEDS HAS HAD A LOT OF MONEY SPENT ON IT, IT HAS ITS SCRUFFY AREAS. ONE THING LEEDS DOES HAVE IS A GOOD CAFE CULTURE DUE TO THE UNIVERSITY. BRADFORD SHOULD BE LOOKING AT HARROGATE , SMALL BUT VERY WELL LOOKED AFTER, CLASSY. WE CAN BUT TRY.[/p][/quote]Turn your capitals off or do you always shout at people collos25
  • Score: -1

8:17pm Sat 10 May 14

ont-red says...

I was so pleased to see the progress being made on the Westfield development. Bradfordians have been waiting a long time for this to happen and now it has, I'm sure it will give a big boost to the city. I personally will look forward to shopping there when I next visit Bradford. I just hope something is done about the 'aggressive beggars' that operate in the retail areas.
I was so pleased to see the progress being made on the Westfield development. Bradfordians have been waiting a long time for this to happen and now it has, I'm sure it will give a big boost to the city. I personally will look forward to shopping there when I next visit Bradford. I just hope something is done about the 'aggressive beggars' that operate in the retail areas. ont-red
  • Score: 7

8:49am Sun 11 May 14

Bradford56 says...

Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people!
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people! Bradford56
  • Score: 2

10:02am Sun 11 May 14

collos25 says...

Bradford56 wrote:
Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people!
Don't you want to hear the truth or do you always wear your rose tinted glasses, the development is only a fraction of its original size, its years late ,its made from poor quality materials with no energy saving features, no thought has been given to the empty buildings as retailers move from their old premises to the new ,there are no new retailers of any nounce taking up new premises.Its only good for the city if the problems it incurs are rectified which knowing Bradford haven't even been thought about.
[quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people![/p][/quote]Don't you want to hear the truth or do you always wear your rose tinted glasses, the development is only a fraction of its original size, its years late ,its made from poor quality materials with no energy saving features, no thought has been given to the empty buildings as retailers move from their old premises to the new ,there are no new retailers of any nounce taking up new premises.Its only good for the city if the problems it incurs are rectified which knowing Bradford haven't even been thought about. collos25
  • Score: 4

10:27am Sun 11 May 14

Bradford56 says...

collos25 wrote:
Bradford56 wrote:
Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people!
Don't you want to hear the truth or do you always wear your rose tinted glasses, the development is only a fraction of its original size, its years late ,its made from poor quality materials with no energy saving features, no thought has been given to the empty buildings as retailers move from their old premises to the new ,there are no new retailers of any nounce taking up new premises.Its only good for the city if the problems it incurs are rectified which knowing Bradford haven't even been thought about.
As I initially said, get travelling and take your negativity to another City where the nice people are....
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people![/p][/quote]Don't you want to hear the truth or do you always wear your rose tinted glasses, the development is only a fraction of its original size, its years late ,its made from poor quality materials with no energy saving features, no thought has been given to the empty buildings as retailers move from their old premises to the new ,there are no new retailers of any nounce taking up new premises.Its only good for the city if the problems it incurs are rectified which knowing Bradford haven't even been thought about.[/p][/quote]As I initially said, get travelling and take your negativity to another City where the nice people are.... Bradford56
  • Score: 0

12:50pm Sun 11 May 14

collos25 says...

You really want to take of those glasses and come into the real world instead of the childish fantasy you appear to live in.
You really want to take of those glasses and come into the real world instead of the childish fantasy you appear to live in. collos25
  • Score: -3

3:16pm Sun 11 May 14

Bradford56 says...

collos25 wrote:
You really want to take of those glasses and come into the real world instead of the childish fantasy you appear to live in.
I don't need to wear glasses, my eye sight is perfectly fine! My 'childish fantasy' hasn't done me any harm to date. In fact I'm a rather successful and positive young man! Bye!!
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: You really want to take of those glasses and come into the real world instead of the childish fantasy you appear to live in.[/p][/quote]I don't need to wear glasses, my eye sight is perfectly fine! My 'childish fantasy' hasn't done me any harm to date. In fact I'm a rather successful and positive young man! Bye!! Bradford56
  • Score: -1

12:30pm Mon 12 May 14

Andy2010 says...

Bradford56 wrote:
Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people!
Bradford needs exactly people like Albion.

The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend.

All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere.

Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers.

The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt.

Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump
[quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people![/p][/quote]Bradford needs exactly people like Albion. The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend. All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere. Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers. The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt. Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump Andy2010
  • Score: -3

2:02pm Mon 12 May 14

RollandSmoke says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Bradford56 wrote:
Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people!
Bradford needs exactly people like Albion.

The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend.

All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere.

Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers.

The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt.

Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump
"There is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend." And how would you explain that then Andy? Have you finally woken up to the fact that there are no jobs in Bradford and what few there are are so badly paid that the workers can no longer afford to be the consumers that keep the economic wheels greased? I know it's fairly obvious but you seem to have been struggling with the concept up to press.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people![/p][/quote]Bradford needs exactly people like Albion. The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend. All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere. Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers. The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt. Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump[/p][/quote]"There is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend." And how would you explain that then Andy? Have you finally woken up to the fact that there are no jobs in Bradford and what few there are are so badly paid that the workers can no longer afford to be the consumers that keep the economic wheels greased? I know it's fairly obvious but you seem to have been struggling with the concept up to press. RollandSmoke
  • Score: -2

2:34pm Mon 12 May 14

Andy2010 says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Bradford56 wrote:
Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people!
Bradford needs exactly people like Albion.

The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend.

All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere.

Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers.

The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt.

Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump
"There is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend." And how would you explain that then Andy? Have you finally woken up to the fact that there are no jobs in Bradford and what few there are are so badly paid that the workers can no longer afford to be the consumers that keep the economic wheels greased? I know it's fairly obvious but you seem to have been struggling with the concept up to press.
Go away Rollie....We are all tired of your anti tory cr3p you spout

No jobs in Bradford is one thing that is nothing...zip...zilc
h to do with the Tory Government so please just stfu and go away please

The decline of Bradford happened way way back and no Government in power can change this.

Anyway last comment in reply to you as seen you true colours on these forums lately. You recent spat with someone on the drug story one really showed you up for what you are and someone on here finally succeeded in shutting you up.

If you want to talk about the shopping centre go ahead but everyone is sick and tired of your political agenda with literally everything.....its boring as hell
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people![/p][/quote]Bradford needs exactly people like Albion. The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend. All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere. Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers. The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt. Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump[/p][/quote]"There is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend." And how would you explain that then Andy? Have you finally woken up to the fact that there are no jobs in Bradford and what few there are are so badly paid that the workers can no longer afford to be the consumers that keep the economic wheels greased? I know it's fairly obvious but you seem to have been struggling with the concept up to press.[/p][/quote]Go away Rollie....We are all tired of your anti tory cr3p you spout No jobs in Bradford is one thing that is nothing...zip...zilc h to do with the Tory Government so please just stfu and go away please The decline of Bradford happened way way back and no Government in power can change this. Anyway last comment in reply to you as seen you true colours on these forums lately. You recent spat with someone on the drug story one really showed you up for what you are and someone on here finally succeeded in shutting you up. If you want to talk about the shopping centre go ahead but everyone is sick and tired of your political agenda with literally everything.....its boring as hell Andy2010
  • Score: 2

2:36pm Mon 12 May 14

Andy2010 says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Bradford56 wrote:
Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people!
Bradford needs exactly people like Albion.

The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend.

All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere.

Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers.

The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt.

Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump
"There is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend." And how would you explain that then Andy? Have you finally woken up to the fact that there are no jobs in Bradford and what few there are are so badly paid that the workers can no longer afford to be the consumers that keep the economic wheels greased? I know it's fairly obvious but you seem to have been struggling with the concept up to press.
And I'll add that you are just a nasty little troll who gets some sort of sick pleasure out of trying to instigate arguments rather than discussions.

In fact look up troll in the dictionary and theres probably a picture of you
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people![/p][/quote]Bradford needs exactly people like Albion. The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend. All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere. Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers. The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt. Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump[/p][/quote]"There is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend." And how would you explain that then Andy? Have you finally woken up to the fact that there are no jobs in Bradford and what few there are are so badly paid that the workers can no longer afford to be the consumers that keep the economic wheels greased? I know it's fairly obvious but you seem to have been struggling with the concept up to press.[/p][/quote]And I'll add that you are just a nasty little troll who gets some sort of sick pleasure out of trying to instigate arguments rather than discussions. In fact look up troll in the dictionary and theres probably a picture of you Andy2010
  • Score: 5

2:51pm Mon 12 May 14

RollandSmoke says...

Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Bradford56 wrote:
Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people!
Bradford needs exactly people like Albion.

The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend.

All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere.

Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers.

The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt.

Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump
"There is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend." And how would you explain that then Andy? Have you finally woken up to the fact that there are no jobs in Bradford and what few there are are so badly paid that the workers can no longer afford to be the consumers that keep the economic wheels greased? I know it's fairly obvious but you seem to have been struggling with the concept up to press.
Go away Rollie....We are all tired of your anti tory cr3p you spout

No jobs in Bradford is one thing that is nothing...zip...zilc

h to do with the Tory Government so please just stfu and go away please

The decline of Bradford happened way way back and no Government in power can change this.

Anyway last comment in reply to you as seen you true colours on these forums lately. You recent spat with someone on the drug story one really showed you up for what you are and someone on here finally succeeded in shutting you up.

If you want to talk about the shopping centre go ahead but everyone is sick and tired of your political agenda with literally everything.....its boring as hell
What are you babbling about? Has the doctor been messing about with your medication again?
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people![/p][/quote]Bradford needs exactly people like Albion. The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend. All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere. Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers. The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt. Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump[/p][/quote]"There is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend." And how would you explain that then Andy? Have you finally woken up to the fact that there are no jobs in Bradford and what few there are are so badly paid that the workers can no longer afford to be the consumers that keep the economic wheels greased? I know it's fairly obvious but you seem to have been struggling with the concept up to press.[/p][/quote]Go away Rollie....We are all tired of your anti tory cr3p you spout No jobs in Bradford is one thing that is nothing...zip...zilc h to do with the Tory Government so please just stfu and go away please The decline of Bradford happened way way back and no Government in power can change this. Anyway last comment in reply to you as seen you true colours on these forums lately. You recent spat with someone on the drug story one really showed you up for what you are and someone on here finally succeeded in shutting you up. If you want to talk about the shopping centre go ahead but everyone is sick and tired of your political agenda with literally everything.....its boring as hell[/p][/quote]What are you babbling about? Has the doctor been messing about with your medication again? RollandSmoke
  • Score: 0

3:34pm Mon 12 May 14

Out of site says...

CharlesVarrick wrote:
Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
I might have expected ol' misery guts to put in his penny's worth. Why don't you just sod off if you've nothing positive to say. You've already told us you don't live in Bradford so what the feck do you keep coming on here for? Sod off !!
We'll said and true
[quote][p][bold]CharlesVarrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]I might have expected ol' misery guts to put in his penny's worth. Why don't you just sod off if you've nothing positive to say. You've already told us you don't live in Bradford so what the feck do you keep coming on here for? Sod off !![/p][/quote]We'll said and true Out of site
  • Score: 0

4:21pm Mon 12 May 14

RollandSmoke says...

Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Bradford56 wrote:
Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people!
Bradford needs exactly people like Albion.

The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend.

All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere.

Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers.

The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt.

Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump
"There is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend." And how would you explain that then Andy? Have you finally woken up to the fact that there are no jobs in Bradford and what few there are are so badly paid that the workers can no longer afford to be the consumers that keep the economic wheels greased? I know it's fairly obvious but you seem to have been struggling with the concept up to press.
And I'll add that you are just a nasty little troll who gets some sort of sick pleasure out of trying to instigate arguments rather than discussions.

In fact look up troll in the dictionary and theres probably a picture of you
Whats up did I spoil your fun when I rumbled you bradfordboyz?
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people![/p][/quote]Bradford needs exactly people like Albion. The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend. All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere. Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers. The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt. Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump[/p][/quote]"There is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend." And how would you explain that then Andy? Have you finally woken up to the fact that there are no jobs in Bradford and what few there are are so badly paid that the workers can no longer afford to be the consumers that keep the economic wheels greased? I know it's fairly obvious but you seem to have been struggling with the concept up to press.[/p][/quote]And I'll add that you are just a nasty little troll who gets some sort of sick pleasure out of trying to instigate arguments rather than discussions. In fact look up troll in the dictionary and theres probably a picture of you[/p][/quote]Whats up did I spoil your fun when I rumbled you bradfordboyz? RollandSmoke
  • Score: 0

4:32pm Mon 12 May 14

Andy2010 says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Bradford56 wrote:
Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people!
Bradford needs exactly people like Albion.

The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend.

All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere.

Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers.

The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt.

Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump
"There is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend." And how would you explain that then Andy? Have you finally woken up to the fact that there are no jobs in Bradford and what few there are are so badly paid that the workers can no longer afford to be the consumers that keep the economic wheels greased? I know it's fairly obvious but you seem to have been struggling with the concept up to press.
And I'll add that you are just a nasty little troll who gets some sort of sick pleasure out of trying to instigate arguments rather than discussions.

In fact look up troll in the dictionary and theres probably a picture of you
Whats up did I spoil your fun when I rumbled you bradfordboyz?
Rumbled?

Its you that appears to have been shown up by someone who can hardly spell

Mind you suppose it takes a troll to know a troll.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people![/p][/quote]Bradford needs exactly people like Albion. The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend. All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere. Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers. The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt. Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump[/p][/quote]"There is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend." And how would you explain that then Andy? Have you finally woken up to the fact that there are no jobs in Bradford and what few there are are so badly paid that the workers can no longer afford to be the consumers that keep the economic wheels greased? I know it's fairly obvious but you seem to have been struggling with the concept up to press.[/p][/quote]And I'll add that you are just a nasty little troll who gets some sort of sick pleasure out of trying to instigate arguments rather than discussions. In fact look up troll in the dictionary and theres probably a picture of you[/p][/quote]Whats up did I spoil your fun when I rumbled you bradfordboyz?[/p][/quote]Rumbled? Its you that appears to have been shown up by someone who can hardly spell Mind you suppose it takes a troll to know a troll. Andy2010
  • Score: 2

6:13pm Mon 12 May 14

Bradford56 says...

Sadly Albion and Andy2010 were discussed at work today. 10 minutes of my life I will never get back, however the discussion was around negative people who cannot stand it when positive news is mentioned about Bradford.
I'm just reading some of your comments on here and what horrible people you sound like! I would hate to be unlucky enough to have either of you as neighbours! Do you really think that a company such as Westfield would go ahead with the Broadway development if they didn't think it would pay off and could ruin there reputation? Get over the yourselves! This is something good for Bradford whether you like it or not! If you don't even live here, why does this subject interest you so much! Obviously you have very sad and boring lives!
Sadly Albion and Andy2010 were discussed at work today. 10 minutes of my life I will never get back, however the discussion was around negative people who cannot stand it when positive news is mentioned about Bradford. I'm just reading some of your comments on here and what horrible people you sound like! I would hate to be unlucky enough to have either of you as neighbours! Do you really think that a company such as Westfield would go ahead with the Broadway development if they didn't think it would pay off and could ruin there reputation? Get over the yourselves! This is something good for Bradford whether you like it or not! If you don't even live here, why does this subject interest you so much! Obviously you have very sad and boring lives! Bradford56
  • Score: 5

4:20am Tue 13 May 14

tanyaloolee says...

Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Bradford56 wrote:
Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people!
Bradford needs exactly people like Albion.

The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend.

All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere.

Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers.

The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt.

Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump
"There is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend." And how would you explain that then Andy? Have you finally woken up to the fact that there are no jobs in Bradford and what few there are are so badly paid that the workers can no longer afford to be the consumers that keep the economic wheels greased? I know it's fairly obvious but you seem to have been struggling with the concept up to press.
Go away Rollie....We are all tired of your anti tory cr3p you spout

No jobs in Bradford is one thing that is nothing...zip...zilc

h to do with the Tory Government so please just stfu and go away please

The decline of Bradford happened way way back and no Government in power can change this.

Anyway last comment in reply to you as seen you true colours on these forums lately. You recent spat with someone on the drug story one really showed you up for what you are and someone on here finally succeeded in shutting you up.

If you want to talk about the shopping centre go ahead but everyone is sick and tired of your political agenda with literally everything.....its boring as hell
Who made you milk monitor of this paper? You don't speak for me or I'm sure many other on here you presumptuous fool. I'd rather you and your ilk be prevented from spreading your hate than rolly misguided as he can be at times.
Yes and we all know who and why a person made use of this particular troll don't we Andy? In fact troll isn't the name we usually call politically motivated fake rabble rousers is it. The name we normally use is "shill" isn't it?

As for rolly being a troll we all know that to be untrue. He's just a guy with strong feelings who was brought up by loving parents who obviously taught him to know right from wrong which is something the Tory scrum and their useful idiots on here obviously missed out on.
Maybe they weren't given enough hugs or they were treated badly or boarded out most of their sad little lives but one thing is clear any compassion coming from a tory is generally fake just like bradfordboys clearly was a ploy thrown out by yourself to say bad things without gaining a ban and used as a ploy to infuriate people in order to gain votes. Trouble is the disability abuse used to insult dolly was a step to far and is now in th hands of the police.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people![/p][/quote]Bradford needs exactly people like Albion. The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend. All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere. Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers. The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt. Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump[/p][/quote]"There is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend." And how would you explain that then Andy? Have you finally woken up to the fact that there are no jobs in Bradford and what few there are are so badly paid that the workers can no longer afford to be the consumers that keep the economic wheels greased? I know it's fairly obvious but you seem to have been struggling with the concept up to press.[/p][/quote]Go away Rollie....We are all tired of your anti tory cr3p you spout No jobs in Bradford is one thing that is nothing...zip...zilc h to do with the Tory Government so please just stfu and go away please The decline of Bradford happened way way back and no Government in power can change this. Anyway last comment in reply to you as seen you true colours on these forums lately. You recent spat with someone on the drug story one really showed you up for what you are and someone on here finally succeeded in shutting you up. If you want to talk about the shopping centre go ahead but everyone is sick and tired of your political agenda with literally everything.....its boring as hell[/p][/quote]Who made you milk monitor of this paper? You don't speak for me or I'm sure many other on here you presumptuous fool. I'd rather you and your ilk be prevented from spreading your hate than rolly misguided as he can be at times. Yes and we all know who and why a person made use of this particular troll don't we Andy? In fact troll isn't the name we usually call politically motivated fake rabble rousers is it. The name we normally use is "shill" isn't it? As for rolly being a troll we all know that to be untrue. He's just a guy with strong feelings who was brought up by loving parents who obviously taught him to know right from wrong which is something the Tory scrum and their useful idiots on here obviously missed out on. Maybe they weren't given enough hugs or they were treated badly or boarded out most of their sad little lives but one thing is clear any compassion coming from a tory is generally fake just like bradfordboys clearly was a ploy thrown out by yourself to say bad things without gaining a ban and used as a ploy to infuriate people in order to gain votes. Trouble is the disability abuse used to insult dolly was a step to far and is now in th hands of the police. tanyaloolee
  • Score: -3

8:57am Tue 13 May 14

Andy2010 says...

tanyaloolee wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Bradford56 wrote:
Albion. wrote:
It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.
Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people!
Bradford needs exactly people like Albion.

The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend.

All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere.

Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers.

The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt.

Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump
"There is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend." And how would you explain that then Andy? Have you finally woken up to the fact that there are no jobs in Bradford and what few there are are so badly paid that the workers can no longer afford to be the consumers that keep the economic wheels greased? I know it's fairly obvious but you seem to have been struggling with the concept up to press.
Go away Rollie....We are all tired of your anti tory cr3p you spout

No jobs in Bradford is one thing that is nothing...zip...zilc


h to do with the Tory Government so please just stfu and go away please

The decline of Bradford happened way way back and no Government in power can change this.

Anyway last comment in reply to you as seen you true colours on these forums lately. You recent spat with someone on the drug story one really showed you up for what you are and someone on here finally succeeded in shutting you up.

If you want to talk about the shopping centre go ahead but everyone is sick and tired of your political agenda with literally everything.....its boring as hell
Who made you milk monitor of this paper? You don't speak for me or I'm sure many other on here you presumptuous fool. I'd rather you and your ilk be prevented from spreading your hate than rolly misguided as he can be at times.
Yes and we all know who and why a person made use of this particular troll don't we Andy? In fact troll isn't the name we usually call politically motivated fake rabble rousers is it. The name we normally use is "shill" isn't it?

As for rolly being a troll we all know that to be untrue. He's just a guy with strong feelings who was brought up by loving parents who obviously taught him to know right from wrong which is something the Tory scrum and their useful idiots on here obviously missed out on.
Maybe they weren't given enough hugs or they were treated badly or boarded out most of their sad little lives but one thing is clear any compassion coming from a tory is generally fake just like bradfordboys clearly was a ploy thrown out by yourself to say bad things without gaining a ban and used as a ploy to infuriate people in order to gain votes. Trouble is the disability abuse used to insult dolly was a step to far and is now in th hands of the police.
Spreading hate?

Id love you to explain that please in more detail. Is this you Rollie pretending once again to be someone else?

I sense from the Tory hating post once again you are trying to spout your political agenda once again

Couple of clues give you away like the terms used in nearly all your posts "Ilk", "tory" and your obsession with posting about people childhood's and upbringings like you somehow missed out on one yourself.

But for the record Rollie and once again I state I'm not a Tory voter, never have been. As I explained before (even though irrelevant) I only vote if I think one party will make a difference and sadly all of them currently available to vote for I wouldn't trust to water my plants. They are all the same but the difference between yourself and me is that I'm not so narrow minded and believe tripe found on the internet. Its called a free mind my friend.
[quote][p][bold]tanyaloolee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: It won't provide the panacea of recovery that some seem to think. Bradford has become a third world city and that is the reason why so many retailers have left or packed up. It'll be an interesting novelty for the first year or so, after that it will probably decline as one new shopping mall among many empty or tat-filled acres doesn't attract people after the initial curiosity has waned. Anyway, each to their own, personally I like to shop in nice places filled with nice people, even if it involves more travel.[/p][/quote]Bradford doesn't need people like you, so if you don't mind travelling, get gone- as far away as possible with the apparent 'nice' people![/p][/quote]Bradford needs exactly people like Albion. The problem with this shopping centre is that there is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend. All the shopping centre is doing is shifting job and shops from other areas of the centre into one place so any gains are offset by closures elsewhere. Its laughable that some hail this centre as the future of regeneration of Bradford when in essence it wont improve anything as isn't driving any business here (see amount of empty office space etc) and it doesn't change the core shoppers. The centre wont attract shoppers from other areas as offers nothing isnt better, cleaner or safer than anywhere else. I realise however though for some that rate a shopping destination on the size of the Primark it might appeal but it doesn't add anything positive to Bradford at all. This centre should have been used to attract people from outside the area but it doesnt. Give it 5 years and it will be a run down half empty dump[/p][/quote]"There is very very little money being spent in Bradford apart from the tat shops as the population of Bradford doesnt have much to spend." And how would you explain that then Andy? Have you finally woken up to the fact that there are no jobs in Bradford and what few there are are so badly paid that the workers can no longer afford to be the consumers that keep the economic wheels greased? I know it's fairly obvious but you seem to have been struggling with the concept up to press.[/p][/quote]Go away Rollie....We are all tired of your anti tory cr3p you spout No jobs in Bradford is one thing that is nothing...zip...zilc h to do with the Tory Government so please just stfu and go away please The decline of Bradford happened way way back and no Government in power can change this. Anyway last comment in reply to you as seen you true colours on these forums lately. You recent spat with someone on the drug story one really showed you up for what you are and someone on here finally succeeded in shutting you up. If you want to talk about the shopping centre go ahead but everyone is sick and tired of your political agenda with literally everything.....its boring as hell[/p][/quote]Who made you milk monitor of this paper? You don't speak for me or I'm sure many other on here you presumptuous fool. I'd rather you and your ilk be prevented from spreading your hate than rolly misguided as he can be at times. Yes and we all know who and why a person made use of this particular troll don't we Andy? In fact troll isn't the name we usually call politically motivated fake rabble rousers is it. The name we normally use is "shill" isn't it? As for rolly being a troll we all know that to be untrue. He's just a guy with strong feelings who was brought up by loving parents who obviously taught him to know right from wrong which is something the Tory scrum and their useful idiots on here obviously missed out on. Maybe they weren't given enough hugs or they were treated badly or boarded out most of their sad little lives but one thing is clear any compassion coming from a tory is generally fake just like bradfordboys clearly was a ploy thrown out by yourself to say bad things without gaining a ban and used as a ploy to infuriate people in order to gain votes. Trouble is the disability abuse used to insult dolly was a step to far and is now in th hands of the police.[/p][/quote]Spreading hate? Id love you to explain that please in more detail. Is this you Rollie pretending once again to be someone else? I sense from the Tory hating post once again you are trying to spout your political agenda once again Couple of clues give you away like the terms used in nearly all your posts "Ilk", "tory" and your obsession with posting about people childhood's and upbringings like you somehow missed out on one yourself. But for the record Rollie and once again I state I'm not a Tory voter, never have been. As I explained before (even though irrelevant) I only vote if I think one party will make a difference and sadly all of them currently available to vote for I wouldn't trust to water my plants. They are all the same but the difference between yourself and me is that I'm not so narrow minded and believe tripe found on the internet. Its called a free mind my friend. Andy2010
  • Score: 5

10:04am Tue 13 May 14

SinnerSaint says...

Bradford56 wrote:
Sadly Albion and Andy2010 were discussed at work today. 10 minutes of my life I will never get back, however the discussion was around negative people who cannot stand it when positive news is mentioned about Bradford.
I'm just reading some of your comments on here and what horrible people you sound like! I would hate to be unlucky enough to have either of you as neighbours! Do you really think that a company such as Westfield would go ahead with the Broadway development if they didn't think it would pay off and could ruin there reputation? Get over the yourselves! This is something good for Bradford whether you like it or not! If you don't even live here, why does this subject interest you so much! Obviously you have very sad and boring lives!
Yes. As I've said before, Westfield are so proud of the Bradford development that there is virtually no mention of it on their corporate website.

http://corporate.wes
tfield.com/propertie
s/uk/

Nothing under current centres (which could be expected) or under new developments (although Croydon and London Phase 2 are trumpeted). Why could that be? Embarrassment I would suggest.
[quote][p][bold]Bradford56[/bold] wrote: Sadly Albion and Andy2010 were discussed at work today. 10 minutes of my life I will never get back, however the discussion was around negative people who cannot stand it when positive news is mentioned about Bradford. I'm just reading some of your comments on here and what horrible people you sound like! I would hate to be unlucky enough to have either of you as neighbours! Do you really think that a company such as Westfield would go ahead with the Broadway development if they didn't think it would pay off and could ruin there reputation? Get over the yourselves! This is something good for Bradford whether you like it or not! If you don't even live here, why does this subject interest you so much! Obviously you have very sad and boring lives![/p][/quote]Yes. As I've said before, Westfield are so proud of the Bradford development that there is virtually no mention of it on their corporate website. http://corporate.wes tfield.com/propertie s/uk/ Nothing under current centres (which could be expected) or under new developments (although Croydon and London Phase 2 are trumpeted). Why could that be? Embarrassment I would suggest. SinnerSaint
  • Score: 0

7:33pm Fri 16 May 14

bcfc1903 says...

This Westfield Broadway project is really going at a great pace, already footfall has increased in Bradford and not a shop has opened yet. There's a real buzz about Bradford City centre with other schemes in the pipeline. Great that Little Germany is once again joining the rest of the city centre after years of being cut off, what an absolute gem that area is, I believe a new restaurant has opened and a new hotel is planned for that historic part of Bradford. After years of stagnation and decline at last Bradford is back on the up a little thinking outside the box should give the magistrates courts a new entrance away from City Park with the steps removed a new building could be built similar to the one on the opposite side of the mirror pool and of course hopefully the Odeon building will become Bradford Live a world class music venue that the city is crying out for. Very exciting times to be a Bradfordian!!!!
This Westfield Broadway project is really going at a great pace, already footfall has increased in Bradford and not a shop has opened yet. There's a real buzz about Bradford City centre with other schemes in the pipeline. Great that Little Germany is once again joining the rest of the city centre after years of being cut off, what an absolute gem that area is, I believe a new restaurant has opened and a new hotel is planned for that historic part of Bradford. After years of stagnation and decline at last Bradford is back on the up a little thinking outside the box should give the magistrates courts a new entrance away from City Park with the steps removed a new building could be built similar to the one on the opposite side of the mirror pool and of course hopefully the Odeon building will become Bradford Live a world class music venue that the city is crying out for. Very exciting times to be a Bradfordian!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: 6

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