Bradford allotment waiting lists are slashed

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An allotment crackdown has yielded spectacular results, with waiting lists slashed by three-quarters in a matter of months.

The overhaul of Bradford Council's allotment services was designed to transform derelict sites and reduce waiting lists.

The results are now in, and the waiting list for plots has been cut from 762 to 169 people in the past seven months.

A new report, set to go before the Council’s regeneration and economy overview and scrutiny committee on Thursday, says this is due to two new policies.

People on the waiting lists are asked to reconfirm their interest once a year and steps have been taken to ensure people who have registered on the waiting lists of two or more different allotments are not being counted twice.

Councillor Andrew Thornton, portfolio holder for environment, sport & sustainability, said: “This is really good news and gives us a clearer picture of the current waiting list.

“The most important thing is that we have improved the way we engage with allotment tenants, and responded to what they were telling us.”

Plot clearance work carried out in 2013/14 has also brought 30 abandoned plots back into life at an average cost of £715.

One of the allotments where work has been done is Bullroyd Allotments, off Allerton Road, Four Lane Ends.

Bullroyd Allotment Association member Brian Rayson said Council staff had cleared four overgrown plots, put up fencing and evicted some tenants.

He said: “It’s in better order than it was, but there is still room for improvement.”

The Council allotments team now visits the 36 Council-run sites across the district more frequently to check that tenants are cultivating their plots.

If this is not the case, the Council can cancel their agreement and re-let the plot to someone else. According to the report, 134 tenancies were terminated in this way during 2013/14.

“Clearly we want to make sure that all plot holders are cultivating their allotments to the required standards so they don’t go to seed,” said Coun Thornton.

“If there is a valid reason why this cannot be done, it will be taken into account, but if they no longer want to commit to the work, we have an opportunity to allocate elsewhere.”

Coun Andrew Mallinson, chairman of the scrutiny committee, said: “We did identify poor communication between the Council and plot holders as an issue, and there are now clearer channels to do this.

“We also need to ensure that any new housing developments have land designated for recreational use, such as allotments.”

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7:05am Mon 14 Apr 14

Always a 708 Skinhead says...

Are these allotments only ones run directly by BMDC or are one run by Parish councils included?
I can't see any in the Keighley District. Keighley Town council sold of plots at one site despite having over 150 People on their waiting list which may account for the lack of avaialbe plots on the above list.
If it doesn't include Parish councils, I hope BMDC can pass on their improvements to the smaller councils to also help address the issue even further.
Are these allotments only ones run directly by BMDC or are one run by Parish councils included? I can't see any in the Keighley District. Keighley Town council sold of plots at one site despite having over 150 People on their waiting list which may account for the lack of avaialbe plots on the above list. If it doesn't include Parish councils, I hope BMDC can pass on their improvements to the smaller councils to also help address the issue even further. Always a 708 Skinhead
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7:58am Mon 14 Apr 14

OUT WITH CAVETOWN says...

Always a 708 Skinhead wrote:
Are these allotments only ones run directly by BMDC or are one run by Parish councils included?
I can't see any in the Keighley District. Keighley Town council sold of plots at one site despite having over 150 People on their waiting list which may account for the lack of avaialbe plots on the above list.
If it doesn't include Parish councils, I hope BMDC can pass on their improvements to the smaller councils to also help address the issue even further.
A post from one of the leaders of Cavetown Council ,who are running a personal vindictive campaign against K.T.C . SImon Mitchell (always a 708 skinhead ) from Ferntree Gully Melbourne may appear to be taking an interest in this story , however as usual he is just fishing for information to further the vindictive campaign that's estimated to have cost the tax payers of Keighley £50,000 pounds.
[quote][p][bold]Always a 708 Skinhead[/bold] wrote: Are these allotments only ones run directly by BMDC or are one run by Parish councils included? I can't see any in the Keighley District. Keighley Town council sold of plots at one site despite having over 150 People on their waiting list which may account for the lack of avaialbe plots on the above list. If it doesn't include Parish councils, I hope BMDC can pass on their improvements to the smaller councils to also help address the issue even further.[/p][/quote]A post from one of the leaders of Cavetown Council ,who are running a personal vindictive campaign against K.T.C . SImon Mitchell (always a 708 skinhead ) from Ferntree Gully Melbourne may appear to be taking an interest in this story , however as usual he is just fishing for information to further the vindictive campaign that's estimated to have cost the tax payers of Keighley £50,000 pounds. OUT WITH CAVETOWN
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9:34am Mon 14 Apr 14

Always a 708 Skinhead says...

If by "fishing for information" you mean hopefully getting an answer to my question OWC then yes I am.
It is simple really, did BMDC include Parish councils in this or was it just Brad Met operated allotments.
If Parish councils are included then it would appear that Keighley have no available plots.
If Parish councils are not included then why shouldn't BMDC pass on the methods they have employed to the smaller councils to perhaps reduce waiting lists further?
I don't really see any thing vindictive about it OWC.
As for your estimated £50,000 cost to the tax payers of Keighley, I can only presume you are referring to the current Investigation into KTC by the External Auditors. As this is a direct result of the poor accounting practices and apparent maladministration within KTC then it is the council who are costing the ratepayers £50 grand OWC, so I am not sure what this has to do with me.
Add to the £50,000 the annual amount of £250,000 to service the debts for the Civic Centre along with the £110,000 from the sale of the Allotment land sunk into the Civic Centre and you quickly realise just what a burden Keighley Town council really is.
Massive debts and diminishing Allotment plots OWC? I look forward to reading the findings of the Audit Commission appointed Auditors when they are available, as I am sure you do too.

Tick Tock
If by "fishing for information" you mean hopefully getting an answer to my question OWC then yes I am. It is simple really, did BMDC include Parish councils in this or was it just Brad Met operated allotments. If Parish councils are included then it would appear that Keighley have no available plots. If Parish councils are not included then why shouldn't BMDC pass on the methods they have employed to the smaller councils to perhaps reduce waiting lists further? I don't really see any thing vindictive about it OWC. As for your estimated £50,000 cost to the tax payers of Keighley, I can only presume you are referring to the current Investigation into KTC by the External Auditors. As this is a direct result of the poor accounting practices and apparent maladministration within KTC then it is the council who are costing the ratepayers £50 grand OWC, so I am not sure what this has to do with me. Add to the £50,000 the annual amount of £250,000 to service the debts for the Civic Centre along with the £110,000 from the sale of the Allotment land sunk into the Civic Centre and you quickly realise just what a burden Keighley Town council really is. Massive debts and diminishing Allotment plots OWC? I look forward to reading the findings of the Audit Commission appointed Auditors when they are available, as I am sure you do too. Tick Tock Always a 708 Skinhead
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9:43am Mon 14 Apr 14

Katiery says...

So does that mean that Keighley Town Council DIDN'T sell of allotment land then, OUT WITH CAVETOWN?

If that is the case then please put the record straight so that those waiting for an allotment on this particular plot in Keighley know they still have the opportunity to be allocated one.

If that is NOT the case and the land was sold, then do state why public land was sold, how much was generated and what the money was used for

Hasn't Keighley Town Council cost the tax payers of Keighley much more than £50,000 with ridiculous decisions about buying buildings?
So does that mean that Keighley Town Council DIDN'T sell of allotment land then, OUT WITH CAVETOWN? If that is the case then please put the record straight so that those waiting for an allotment on this particular plot in Keighley know they still have the opportunity to be allocated one. If that is NOT the case and the land was sold, then do state why public land was sold, how much was generated and what the money was used for Hasn't Keighley Town Council cost the tax payers of Keighley much more than £50,000 with ridiculous decisions about buying buildings? Katiery
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10:28am Mon 14 Apr 14

Always a 708 Skinhead says...

Perhaps the following may help to answer your questions Katiery-

28 January 2011. KTC Financial Adviser, Keith Pickles. Report on 2011-12 Budget

2) There is no provision in the budget for the running costs of the Civic Centre. All these costs will have to be met from income. This includes the costs of repaying the PWLB loan of £1.1, which in 2011-12 will amount to around £50,000
3) The capital cost of the Civic centre will have to be met from the £1.1 m PWLB loan plus the £110,000 available from the sale of the Skipton Road Allotments There are no other reserves available to fund any additional expenditure apart from cutting the 2011-12 revenue expenditure.


We now know that the Civic Centre is running up Bills of £250,000 each year which are being covered by Precept Money.

Interestingly Katiery, the above comments by the then KTC Financial Advisor Keith Pickles appear to contravene the Small Holdings and Allotments Act 1908 legislation which covers the sale of allotment land-
32 Sale of superfluous or unsuitable land.

(2)The proceeds of a sale under this Act of land acquired for allotments, and any money received by the council on any such exchange as aforesaid by way of equality of exchange, shall be applied in discharging, either by way of a sinking fund or otherwise, the debts and liabilities of the council in respect of the land acquired by the council for allotments, or in acquiring, adapting, and improving other land for allotments, and any surplus remaining may be applied for any purpose for which capital money may be applied, . . . F2; and the interest thereon (if any) and any money received from the letting of the land may be applied in acquiring other land for allotments, or shall be applied in like manner as receipts from allotments under this Act are applicable.


Unless KTC intend to allow Parishioners to grow vegetables within the Civic Centre then it seems they have misappropriated the funds from the sale of the Skipton Road allotments.

I wonder if this matter is one of the more than 50 very serious items currently under investigation at Keighley Town council?
Perhaps OWC may know...

Tick Tock
Perhaps the following may help to answer your questions Katiery- 28 January 2011. KTC Financial Adviser, Keith Pickles. Report on 2011-12 Budget 2) There is no provision in the budget for the running costs of the Civic Centre. All these costs will have to be met from income. This includes the costs of repaying the PWLB loan of £1.1, which in 2011-12 will amount to around £50,000 3) The capital cost of the Civic centre will have to be met from the £1.1 m PWLB loan plus the £110,000 available from the sale of the Skipton Road Allotments There are no other reserves available to fund any additional expenditure apart from cutting the 2011-12 revenue expenditure. We now know that the Civic Centre is running up Bills of £250,000 each year which are being covered by Precept Money. Interestingly Katiery, the above comments by the then KTC Financial Advisor Keith Pickles appear to contravene the Small Holdings and Allotments Act 1908 legislation which covers the sale of allotment land- 32 Sale of superfluous or unsuitable land. (2)The proceeds of a sale under this Act of land acquired for allotments, and any money received by the council on any such exchange as aforesaid by way of equality of exchange, shall be applied in discharging, either by way of a sinking fund or otherwise, the debts and liabilities of the council in respect of the land acquired by the council for allotments, or in acquiring, adapting, and improving other land for allotments, and any surplus remaining may be applied for any purpose for which capital money may be applied, . . . F2; and the interest thereon (if any) and any money received from the letting of the land may be applied in acquiring other land for allotments, or shall be applied in like manner as receipts from allotments under this Act are applicable. Unless KTC intend to allow Parishioners to grow vegetables within the Civic Centre then it seems they have misappropriated the funds from the sale of the Skipton Road allotments. I wonder if this matter is one of the more than 50 very serious items currently under investigation at Keighley Town council? Perhaps OWC may know... Tick Tock Always a 708 Skinhead
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10:38am Mon 14 Apr 14

OUT WITH CAVETOWN says...

and the vindictive personal campaign goes on and on and on and on

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and the vindictive personal campaign goes on and on and on and on .................... .................... .................... .................... ............and on OUT WITH CAVETOWN
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10:42am Mon 14 Apr 14

Katiery says...

OUT WITH CAVETOWN wrote:
and the vindictive personal campaign goes on and on and on and on

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It's not personal OWT, the questions are to the Council as a whole, not to one person.

Could you please answer my questions?

I AM a parishioner and live in the KTC parish, so I would like to know what happened to the allotment land. Is it still available and if not, WHY NOT?
[quote][p][bold]OUT WITH CAVETOWN[/bold] wrote: and the vindictive personal campaign goes on and on and on and on .................... .................... .................... .................... ............and on[/p][/quote]It's not personal OWT, the questions are to the Council as a whole, not to one person. Could you please answer my questions? I AM a parishioner and live in the KTC parish, so I would like to know what happened to the allotment land. Is it still available and if not, WHY NOT? Katiery
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1:20pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Always a 708 Skinhead says...

Katiery wrote:
OUT WITH CAVETOWN wrote:
and the vindictive personal campaign goes on and on and on and on

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It's not personal OWT, the questions are to the Council as a whole, not to one person.

Could you please answer my questions?

I AM a parishioner and live in the KTC parish, so I would like to know what happened to the allotment land. Is it still available and if not, WHY NOT?
The comments by Keith Pickles seem to answer your question Katiery-

3) The capital cost of the Civic centre will have to be met from the £1.1 m PWLB loan plus the £110,000 available from the sale of the Skipton Road Allotments

So it appears the answers are-
Is it still available?
No the land is no longer available.
if not, WHY NOT?
It was sold to service a small percentage ( £110,000) of the Civic Centre Debts.
[quote][p][bold]Katiery[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OUT WITH CAVETOWN[/bold] wrote: and the vindictive personal campaign goes on and on and on and on .................... .................... .................... .................... ............and on[/p][/quote]It's not personal OWT, the questions are to the Council as a whole, not to one person. Could you please answer my questions? I AM a parishioner and live in the KTC parish, so I would like to know what happened to the allotment land. Is it still available and if not, WHY NOT?[/p][/quote]The comments by Keith Pickles seem to answer your question Katiery- 3) The capital cost of the Civic centre will have to be met from the £1.1 m PWLB loan plus the £110,000 available from the sale of the Skipton Road Allotments So it appears the answers are- Is it still available? No the land is no longer available. if not, WHY NOT? It was sold to service a small percentage ( £110,000) of the Civic Centre Debts. Always a 708 Skinhead
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2:01pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Katiery says...

I wonder who authorised THAT sale!

Maybe the auditors will soon let us know, because OUT WITH CAVETOWN doesn't seem to have a clue and Councillors can't be bothered to respond to questions sent to them by parishioners..

I'm presuming the auditors report WILL be made available to all parishioners, after all, WE are paying for it......
I wonder who authorised THAT sale! Maybe the auditors will soon let us know, because OUT WITH CAVETOWN doesn't seem to have a clue and Councillors can't be bothered to respond to questions sent to them by parishioners.. I'm presuming the auditors report WILL be made available to all parishioners, after all, WE are paying for it...... Katiery
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2:15pm Mon 14 Apr 14

nannatyke says...

Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs - Fifth Report included the Protection of Allotments, in which it states if the allotments have been in use for over thirty years they are deemed to be ‘statutory’ and as such, would need the Secretary of State’s Approval, prior to sale. This was not sought when Keighley Town Council sold the Skipton Road Allotments.

In April 2013 I noted the allotment land at Hog Holes for sale on Rightmove. I wrote to the council but they denied the land was for sale, despite me including the advert in my email. The advert disappeared some weeks after my enquiry.
I asked again in November 2013, whether the land that had been offered for sale was Keighley Town Councils. On the 23 Nov 2013, I received a reply from Keighley Town Council to say “THE LAND IS NOT FOR SALE AND NEVER HAS BEEN FOR SALE Yes it was in bold capitals underlined!
Oddly enough the estate agent, offering the land for sale, made a legal declaration to say he was told by a member of council to put the land for sale.
So, we have Keighley Town council selling Skipton Road allotment land without the Secretary of State’s approval and giving £110K to fund its Civic Centre and Keighley Town Council’s Hog Holes allotment land being offered for sale mysteriously and being withdrawn when I raised the issue.

Seems like we get a poor deal in Keighley compared with Bradford

Elizabeth Mitchell
Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs - Fifth Report included the Protection of Allotments, in which it states if the allotments have been in use for over thirty years they are deemed to be ‘statutory’ and as such, would need the Secretary of State’s Approval, prior to sale. This was not sought when Keighley Town Council sold the Skipton Road Allotments. In April 2013 I noted the allotment land at Hog Holes for sale on Rightmove. I wrote to the council but they denied the land was for sale, despite me including the advert in my email. The advert disappeared some weeks after my enquiry. I asked again in November 2013, whether the land that had been offered for sale was Keighley Town Councils. On the 23 Nov 2013, I received a reply from Keighley Town Council to say “THE LAND IS NOT FOR SALE AND NEVER HAS BEEN FOR SALE Yes it was in bold capitals underlined! Oddly enough the estate agent, offering the land for sale, made a legal declaration to say he was told by a member of council to put the land for sale. So, we have Keighley Town council selling Skipton Road allotment land without the Secretary of State’s approval and giving £110K to fund its Civic Centre and Keighley Town Council’s Hog Holes allotment land being offered for sale mysteriously and being withdrawn when I raised the issue. Seems like we get a poor deal in Keighley compared with Bradford Elizabeth Mitchell nannatyke
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2:54pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Katiery says...

Seems like the Secretary of State should be holding an enquiry. The allotment lands belongs to the people of Keighley, not to Keighley Town Council. They have no right and no authority to sell it and they should now be held to account.

What else are they removing from the people to financially prop up their very poor acquisition?
Seems like the Secretary of State should be holding an enquiry. The allotment lands belongs to the people of Keighley, not to Keighley Town Council. They have no right and no authority to sell it and they should now be held to account. What else are they removing from the people to financially prop up their very poor acquisition? Katiery
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9:14pm Mon 14 Apr 14

collos25 says...

Have you only just discovered that councils and its members are corrupt.
Have you only just discovered that councils and its members are corrupt. collos25
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9:23pm Mon 14 Apr 14

alive and awake says...

How did that man go on with is eviction order at Speeton Road allotment?
Council bullying at it's worst.
How did that man go on with is eviction order at Speeton Road allotment? Council bullying at it's worst. alive and awake
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11:35am Wed 16 Apr 14

Always a 708 Skinhead says...

Interesting Press release from the DCLG regarding the new Jan 2014 regulations surrounding allotments. It contains the following comments-
"The new guidance strengthens allotment protection, as the requirement for waiting lists to be taken into account must now be rigorously applied to all that council’s waiting lists, not just the waiting list for the site to be disposed of. This aims to ensure that poorly maintained sites are not used to justify disposal."

Now what where the words used by councillor Morris back in 2010 to justify the sale of the Skipton Rd Allotments?
"the town council had worked out it would cost approximately £6,500 per tenant to bring the Skipton Road allotments up to a decent standard.
“It’s just not feasible at all,” he said. “People say that we spend money willy-nilly and if we do it for this site they’ll say ‘why have you done that?’ It’s the smallest site we have and it’s the only one we’re going to have to shut down.”

Another case of KTC instigating legislative changes due to their actions???

"This aims to ensure that poorly maintained sites are not used to justify disposal."

"the town council had worked out it would cost approximately £6,500 per tenant to bring the Skipton Road allotments up to a decent standard."

Seems once again that the actions displayed by KTC certainly go against the grain of what is expected from local government.
Consider for a moment the future discussions you will have with your kids and grandkids-
"Why can't we grow our own fruit and vegies Grandad/Grandma?"

"Well little ones, we all sat back and did nothing while we watched the Town council sell off Public assets and extort money from our pockets to pour into an unused project that a few councillors hoped would bring them personal glory".

It really is time that the Public found their voice.... before this council destroys the future for the generations to come.
https://www.gov.uk/g
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petition-on-allotmen
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Interesting Press release from the DCLG regarding the new Jan 2014 regulations surrounding allotments. It contains the following comments- "The new guidance strengthens allotment protection, as the requirement for waiting lists to be taken into account must now be rigorously applied to all that council’s waiting lists, not just the waiting list for the site to be disposed of. This aims to ensure that poorly maintained sites are not used to justify disposal." Now what where the words used by councillor Morris back in 2010 to justify the sale of the Skipton Rd Allotments? "the town council had worked out it would cost approximately £6,500 per tenant to bring the Skipton Road allotments up to a decent standard. “It’s just not feasible at all,” he said. “People say that we spend money willy-nilly and if we do it for this site they’ll say ‘why have you done that?’ It’s the smallest site we have and it’s the only one we’re going to have to shut down.” Another case of KTC instigating legislative changes due to their actions??? "This aims to ensure that poorly maintained sites are not used to justify disposal." "the town council had worked out it would cost approximately £6,500 per tenant to bring the Skipton Road allotments up to a decent standard." Seems once again that the actions displayed by KTC certainly go against the grain of what is expected from local government. Consider for a moment the future discussions you will have with your kids and grandkids- "Why can't we grow our own fruit and vegies Grandad/Grandma?" "Well little ones, we all sat back and did nothing while we watched the Town council sell off Public assets and extort money from our pockets to pour into an unused project that a few councillors hoped would bring them personal glory". It really is time that the Public found their voice.... before this council destroys the future for the generations to come. https://www.gov.uk/g overnment/news/gover nment-response-to-a- petition-on-allotmen t-duties Always a 708 Skinhead
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