Eccleshill man calls for Bradford Council waste tip rule change after he is turned away for a third load of soil

John Denison with his Land Rover

John Denison with his Land Rover

First published in News Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , T&A Reporter

A householder has called for “common sense” to be shown by Bradford Council after he was turned away from a recycling tip – for having too much rubbish.

John Denison went to Midland Road tip in Manningham to get rid of a small amount of topsoil and a few stones that he had cleared from his garden in Eccleshill so he could set up a swing for his child.

But he was turned away because workers said he had brought too much.

“They said I couldn’t tip it and that I had to go to Bowling Back Lane to have it weighed,” said Mr Denison.

“The Council is encouraging us to be green and they want us to recycle, but I wasn’t allowed to tip. It is frustrating.”

He added: “I am a bit aggrieved. I am trying to use the facilities, trying to do the right thing. I’ve got a permit, I am private homeowner and I was using a private vehicle.

“No wonder fly-tipping is on the increase.”

The Council said Mr Denison was turned away because he had already visited the tip twice this year with loads of soil.

David Copeland, the Council’s waste disposal manager, said: “Mr Denison’s three vehicle-loads of soil clearly exceeded the half-tonne limit per year for free disposal of this kind of material at our household waste recycling centres, which are not intended for the disposal of large amounts of construction waste.

“We explained the rules to Mr Denison and he was quite rightly advised that he would need to visit our Bowling Back Lane site, which has a weighbridge, to pay for his third load, and any subsequent loads, at the very reasonable charge of £10 per half-tonne if he wanted to continue tipping.”

Council regulations allow 12 bags or half a tonne of soil, stones, brick, rubble to be tipped for free at Bradford tips.

Mr Denison, 54, of Eccleshill, admitted he had previously made two trips to the tip a fortnight ago but he strongly refuted that he had disposed of “large amounts of construction waste”.

He added: “I think it is all a bit silly. If you average it out over the years, the amount I have used the tip, it is very negligible.”

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9:19am Sat 29 Mar 14

Joedavid says...

Interesting the staff at the re-cycling centre are keeping records of us when we use the facility we have paid for in our Council tax.
Interesting the staff at the re-cycling centre are keeping records of us when we use the facility we have paid for in our Council tax. Joedavid
  • Score: 51

9:41am Sat 29 Mar 14

Staffords Hairpiece says...

I can't say that I am too surprised about Mr Denison's problems at the Midland Road waste disposal centre. On my visits I have sometimes been appalled at the attitude of some of the people who work there. A few of them can be extremely rude and dictatorial.
Once, last summer, I was spoken to like I was a seven year old being told off by his teacher. Following that I made sure that I got rid of my rubbish extremely quickly because I was half expecting him to throw a blackboard rubber at me.
I can't say that I am too surprised about Mr Denison's problems at the Midland Road waste disposal centre. On my visits I have sometimes been appalled at the attitude of some of the people who work there. A few of them can be extremely rude and dictatorial. Once, last summer, I was spoken to like I was a seven year old being told off by his teacher. Following that I made sure that I got rid of my rubbish extremely quickly because I was half expecting him to throw a blackboard rubber at me. Staffords Hairpiece
  • Score: 24

10:17am Sat 29 Mar 14

OLDLAD says...

Should have hired a mini skip - tight sod
Should have hired a mini skip - tight sod OLDLAD
  • Score: -22

10:42am Sat 29 Mar 14

The Hoffster says...

OLDLAD wrote:
Should have hired a mini skip - tight sod
Sorry but if the guy pays his council tax, then he should have been allowed to dump the rubbish.

It's not as if he's doing it every other week.

The Council should have been lenient on this occasion.
[quote][p][bold]OLDLAD[/bold] wrote: Should have hired a mini skip - tight sod[/p][/quote]Sorry but if the guy pays his council tax, then he should have been allowed to dump the rubbish. It's not as if he's doing it every other week. The Council should have been lenient on this occasion. The Hoffster
  • Score: 27

12:29pm Sat 29 Mar 14

NO51GET says...

I had a clear out one time and took it to Midland Rd tip. When i was putting it in the skips the one of the guys that works there was looking in my boot for stuff to keep.....!
And when did the council start charging to remove bulky items from your home address...? In the past it might have taken a while for them to actually collect it but at least it was free...!! now it costs £10....!!
I had a clear out one time and took it to Midland Rd tip. When i was putting it in the skips the one of the guys that works there was looking in my boot for stuff to keep.....! And when did the council start charging to remove bulky items from your home address...? In the past it might have taken a while for them to actually collect it but at least it was free...!! now it costs £10....!! NO51GET
  • Score: 22

1:01pm Sat 29 Mar 14

collos25 says...

If it had been something that the staff at Midland Road could have resold on the QT then they would have said nothing.
If it had been something that the staff at Midland Road could have resold on the QT then they would have said nothing. collos25
  • Score: 20

3:20pm Sat 29 Mar 14

alive and awake says...

collos25 wrote:
If it had been something that the staff at Midland Road could have resold on the QT then they would have said nothing.
It's a disgrace. Can anyone tell me are tip staff allowed to take and sell scrap?
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: If it had been something that the staff at Midland Road could have resold on the QT then they would have said nothing.[/p][/quote]It's a disgrace. Can anyone tell me are tip staff allowed to take and sell scrap? alive and awake
  • Score: 9

6:48pm Sat 29 Mar 14

pcmanners says...

Socialist bureaucracy gone mad.
Socialist bureaucracy gone mad. pcmanners
  • Score: 8

6:55pm Sat 29 Mar 14

heandshe says...

I used to live in bradford but have now moved to Oldham( near saddleworth moors)

We uset our tip a lot as we have just moved house,
we had 36 bags of garden rubble one week and another 40 the following week. we have had boxes, carpets, bed frames you name it they take it..we just go to tip and deposit them, staff is there all time and you can come and go as you please all day every day as long as you are not a business.. all for free
Shame of Bradford, Thats why there is lots of people dumping their things......
I used to live in bradford but have now moved to Oldham( near saddleworth moors) We uset our tip a lot as we have just moved house, we had 36 bags of garden rubble one week and another 40 the following week. we have had boxes, carpets, bed frames you name it they take it..we just go to tip and deposit them, staff is there all time and you can come and go as you please all day every day as long as you are not a business.. all for free Shame of Bradford, Thats why there is lots of people dumping their things...... heandshe
  • Score: 14

8:49pm Sat 29 Mar 14

linebacker2 says...

Could be worse, some councils have those ANPR cameras at waste sites and send you a letter if you're going to tips too often!

From bus lanes to waste tips - Why can't councils just do the job their meant to do and not throw their weight around like little Hitlers?
Could be worse, some councils have those ANPR cameras at waste sites and send you a letter if you're going to tips too often! From bus lanes to waste tips - Why can't councils just do the job their meant to do and not throw their weight around like little Hitlers? linebacker2
  • Score: 13

10:33pm Sat 29 Mar 14

bd7 helper says...

They don't want a job?
They don't want a job? bd7 helper
  • Score: 2

7:30am Sun 30 Mar 14

tyker2 says...

I was stopped using a tip for some building rubble. must admit it was the second run. They let it through but next time used a mini skip bag at £13 to buy and £75 to move.

Saved my car from damage carting and was able to clear more stuff that way
I was stopped using a tip for some building rubble. must admit it was the second run. They let it through but next time used a mini skip bag at £13 to buy and £75 to move. Saved my car from damage carting and was able to clear more stuff that way tyker2
  • Score: -1

7:45am Sun 30 Mar 14

Adamget says...

The rules are clearly laid out when you get your permit. They are there to keep the cost down for everyone else.

As someone else said, if you have that much, get a skip.

The line about making a space for his daughter's swing is clearly and attempt to tug at our heart strings. What about the other two trips then? Were they for the slide and jungle gym? Call me a cynic, but this smacks of sloppy reporting.
The rules are clearly laid out when you get your permit. They are there to keep the cost down for everyone else. As someone else said, if you have that much, get a skip. The line about making a space for his daughter's swing is clearly and attempt to tug at our heart strings. What about the other two trips then? Were they for the slide and jungle gym? Call me a cynic, but this smacks of sloppy reporting. Adamget
  • Score: -7

8:14am Sun 30 Mar 14

dorny1971 says...

It's a fine balance between allowing too much and having business tippers dump everything at the HOUSEHOLD waste sites, and allowing too little giving rise to runaway fly tipping.

I understand Mr Denison is a private homeowner but, short of sending somebody round to our houses to check the source of our rubbish, there must be rules to determine what is household rubbish and what is business rubbish. On occasion, the odd private householder with a lot of rubbish is going to be asked to pay. If they're few and far between then it's working okay.

There is another way - if somebody else might benefit from what we would otherwise tip, it could be advertised on Freegle.
It's a fine balance between allowing too much and having business tippers dump everything at the HOUSEHOLD waste sites, and allowing too little giving rise to runaway fly tipping. I understand Mr Denison is a private homeowner but, short of sending somebody round to our houses to check the source of our rubbish, there must be rules to determine what is household rubbish and what is business rubbish. On occasion, the odd private householder with a lot of rubbish is going to be asked to pay. If they're few and far between then it's working okay. There is another way - if somebody else might benefit from what we would otherwise tip, it could be advertised on Freegle. dorny1971
  • Score: -2

11:07am Sun 30 Mar 14

yezboss says...

How do they know it exceeeded half a ton, no one weighed it they are guessing!
How do they know it exceeeded half a ton, no one weighed it they are guessing! yezboss
  • Score: 3

6:40pm Sun 30 Mar 14

bertbert says...

Some of you may have read about a gang tunnelling into an ATM machine near Manchester I think; do you think this happening here?
Some of you may have read about a gang tunnelling into an ATM machine near Manchester I think; do you think this happening here? bertbert
  • Score: 1

7:28pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Johsay says...

Typical from the council, I for one am glad we live in a completed city centre, with excellent schools, low rates of crime and excellent parking by all.

Quite right that we now start to clamp down on aspects such as this.
Typical from the council, I for one am glad we live in a completed city centre, with excellent schools, low rates of crime and excellent parking by all. Quite right that we now start to clamp down on aspects such as this. Johsay
  • Score: 0

11:49am Mon 31 Mar 14

jodeni says...

Thanks to everyone for your comments, I am a private householder and the swing for my daughter is genuine - the reporter was shown pictures proving this. I realise the lads at the recycling centers have rules imposed on them by management and have to follow these but I think a bit of discretion could have been used. My Vehicle is quite distinctive and if i had have been a regular user of the tip i am sure something would have been said much earlier. I have been at my present address for the last 15 years and only use the tip on rare occasions. The three loads were small loads - certainly nowhere near my vehicles max capacity. For conveniences sake and to economise on fuel I visited the tip when passing - not always when the vehicle is full. I think the reporting is fair as it puts both sides of the argument across.
John
Thanks to everyone for your comments, I am a private householder and the swing for my daughter is genuine - the reporter was shown pictures proving this. I realise the lads at the recycling centers have rules imposed on them by management and have to follow these but I think a bit of discretion could have been used. My Vehicle is quite distinctive and if i had have been a regular user of the tip i am sure something would have been said much earlier. I have been at my present address for the last 15 years and only use the tip on rare occasions. The three loads were small loads - certainly nowhere near my vehicles max capacity. For conveniences sake and to economise on fuel I visited the tip when passing - not always when the vehicle is full. I think the reporting is fair as it puts both sides of the argument across. John jodeni
  • Score: 3

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