But Philip Davies says plans must be in-keeping with World Heritage Site

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: An artist’s impression of the Shipley College plan for a site next to its Exhibition Building in Saltaire An artist’s impression of the Shipley College plan for a site next to its Exhibition Building in Saltaire

Contentious plans to build in a World Heritage Site have been supported by an MP – but only if the development does not put the area’s international standing at risk.

Shipley College has submitted plans to Bradford Council for a two-storey building on land where greenhouses currently stand, next to its Exhibition Building in Saltaire.

It is one of only a handful of new- builds proposed for the UNESCO World Heritage Site in recent years.

Residents fear the new building will stand out against Saltaire’s other buildings, which date back to the 1850s. The exhibition building next to the proposed site was built in 1886 to commemorate the death of Sir Titus Salt.

But the college says the £1.9 million building is vital to secure its future and would provide a much-needed facility for ‘high need learners’. It would also provide outdoor space for students.

The building will increase student numbers by around 75.

Shipley MP Philip Davies said the extension was essential for the college’s viability.

“I absolutely support Shipley College in what they are trying to do,” he said.

“I’d like to see a building in-keeping with the village and that helps the viability of the college.”

The college’s application concedes that views of Salts Mill from some parts of the village would be limited, but adds: “Similar unaffected views are achievable from elsewhere within the village.

“The new building proposed is intelligent and respectful of its historic surroundings.”

The Council said UNESCO would be consulted as part of the plans process. The application will be determined in in May.

e-mail: chris.young@telegraphandargus.co.uk

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9:34am Wed 26 Mar 14

pcmanners says...

Philip Davies is correct. The function of this new building is excellent, the form needs changing. It is ugly in its own right and ugly because it is completely out of keeping. The building needs a complete rethink.
Philip Davies is correct. The function of this new building is excellent, the form needs changing. It is ugly in its own right and ugly because it is completely out of keeping. The building needs a complete rethink. pcmanners
  • Score: 10

10:34am Wed 26 Mar 14

BaildonGuy says...

Just look at it. It's cheap and nasty. Even if this wasn't a world heritage site it shouldn't be built. Why haven't we heard from the architect? How can this travesty be justified.
Just look at it. It's cheap and nasty. Even if this wasn't a world heritage site it shouldn't be built. Why haven't we heard from the architect? How can this travesty be justified. BaildonGuy
  • Score: 7

10:48am Wed 26 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

BaildonGuy wrote:
Just look at it. It's cheap and nasty. Even if this wasn't a world heritage site it shouldn't be built. Why haven't we heard from the architect? How can this travesty be justified.
Howe can you tell from a drawing? Do you have inside knowledge of the construction methods and the materials to be used?
[quote][p][bold]BaildonGuy[/bold] wrote: Just look at it. It's cheap and nasty. Even if this wasn't a world heritage site it shouldn't be built. Why haven't we heard from the architect? How can this travesty be justified.[/p][/quote]Howe can you tell from a drawing? Do you have inside knowledge of the construction methods and the materials to be used? Bone_idle18
  • Score: -8

10:58am Wed 26 Mar 14

sorrow&anger says...

Abandon hope. This thing will be built. As we found out with Buck Lane, City Hall can't be trusted when it's sitting in judgement in its own planning court.
Abandon hope. This thing will be built. As we found out with Buck Lane, City Hall can't be trusted when it's sitting in judgement in its own planning court. sorrow&anger
  • Score: 4

11:18am Wed 26 Mar 14

BaildonGuy says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
BaildonGuy wrote:
Just look at it. It's cheap and nasty. Even if this wasn't a world heritage site it shouldn't be built. Why haven't we heard from the architect? How can this travesty be justified.
Howe can you tell from a drawing? Do you have inside knowledge of the construction methods and the materials to be used?
Well, I worked in construction all my life and even with a poor quality rendering like this, it's possible to recognise tat brought about by poverty of imagination and meanness of spirit. Architecture should lift up the soul. This doesn't.

Whatever else you may think about them, both Titus Salt and Lockwood & Mawson had a consistent aesthetic driven by social vision. Things that are notable lacking in this offering flung out from Shipley College.

Saltaire is a World Heritage site for good reasons. One of them is the quality of its architecture. This should be respected, not made a mockery.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BaildonGuy[/bold] wrote: Just look at it. It's cheap and nasty. Even if this wasn't a world heritage site it shouldn't be built. Why haven't we heard from the architect? How can this travesty be justified.[/p][/quote]Howe can you tell from a drawing? Do you have inside knowledge of the construction methods and the materials to be used?[/p][/quote]Well, I worked in construction all my life and even with a poor quality rendering like this, it's possible to recognise tat brought about by poverty of imagination and meanness of spirit. Architecture should lift up the soul. This doesn't. Whatever else you may think about them, both Titus Salt and Lockwood & Mawson had a consistent aesthetic driven by social vision. Things that are notable lacking in this offering flung out from Shipley College. Saltaire is a World Heritage site for good reasons. One of them is the quality of its architecture. This should be respected, not made a mockery. BaildonGuy
  • Score: 9

12:13pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Grumpygirl says...

BaildonGuy wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
BaildonGuy wrote:
Just look at it. It's cheap and nasty. Even if this wasn't a world heritage site it shouldn't be built. Why haven't we heard from the architect? How can this travesty be justified.
Howe can you tell from a drawing? Do you have inside knowledge of the construction methods and the materials to be used?
Well, I worked in construction all my life and even with a poor quality rendering like this, it's possible to recognise tat brought about by poverty of imagination and meanness of spirit. Architecture should lift up the soul. This doesn't.

Whatever else you may think about them, both Titus Salt and Lockwood & Mawson had a consistent aesthetic driven by social vision. Things that are notable lacking in this offering flung out from Shipley College.

Saltaire is a World Heritage site for good reasons. One of them is the quality of its architecture. This should be respected, not made a mockery.
Well said. Bone Idle prefers to attack the person rather than the argument.
[quote][p][bold]BaildonGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BaildonGuy[/bold] wrote: Just look at it. It's cheap and nasty. Even if this wasn't a world heritage site it shouldn't be built. Why haven't we heard from the architect? How can this travesty be justified.[/p][/quote]Howe can you tell from a drawing? Do you have inside knowledge of the construction methods and the materials to be used?[/p][/quote]Well, I worked in construction all my life and even with a poor quality rendering like this, it's possible to recognise tat brought about by poverty of imagination and meanness of spirit. Architecture should lift up the soul. This doesn't. Whatever else you may think about them, both Titus Salt and Lockwood & Mawson had a consistent aesthetic driven by social vision. Things that are notable lacking in this offering flung out from Shipley College. Saltaire is a World Heritage site for good reasons. One of them is the quality of its architecture. This should be respected, not made a mockery.[/p][/quote]Well said. Bone Idle prefers to attack the person rather than the argument. Grumpygirl
  • Score: 1

12:13pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Grumpygirl says...

BaildonGuy wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
BaildonGuy wrote:
Just look at it. It's cheap and nasty. Even if this wasn't a world heritage site it shouldn't be built. Why haven't we heard from the architect? How can this travesty be justified.
Howe can you tell from a drawing? Do you have inside knowledge of the construction methods and the materials to be used?
Well, I worked in construction all my life and even with a poor quality rendering like this, it's possible to recognise tat brought about by poverty of imagination and meanness of spirit. Architecture should lift up the soul. This doesn't.

Whatever else you may think about them, both Titus Salt and Lockwood & Mawson had a consistent aesthetic driven by social vision. Things that are notable lacking in this offering flung out from Shipley College.

Saltaire is a World Heritage site for good reasons. One of them is the quality of its architecture. This should be respected, not made a mockery.
Well said. Bone Idle prefers to attack the person rather than the argument.
[quote][p][bold]BaildonGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BaildonGuy[/bold] wrote: Just look at it. It's cheap and nasty. Even if this wasn't a world heritage site it shouldn't be built. Why haven't we heard from the architect? How can this travesty be justified.[/p][/quote]Howe can you tell from a drawing? Do you have inside knowledge of the construction methods and the materials to be used?[/p][/quote]Well, I worked in construction all my life and even with a poor quality rendering like this, it's possible to recognise tat brought about by poverty of imagination and meanness of spirit. Architecture should lift up the soul. This doesn't. Whatever else you may think about them, both Titus Salt and Lockwood & Mawson had a consistent aesthetic driven by social vision. Things that are notable lacking in this offering flung out from Shipley College. Saltaire is a World Heritage site for good reasons. One of them is the quality of its architecture. This should be respected, not made a mockery.[/p][/quote]Well said. Bone Idle prefers to attack the person rather than the argument. Grumpygirl
  • Score: 1

12:15pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Grumpygirl says...

When will Bradford ever do anything right. Shipley College aren't daft. They must have known this was completely out of keeping. Were they hoping that nobody would notice, or are they just cynically relying on the Council rubber stamping it?

The design is completely wrong, no amount of fiddling about can make it any better. Shipley College should tear it up and start again, this time with an architect who knows what he is doing and respects the work of Lockwood & Mawson.
When will Bradford ever do anything right. Shipley College aren't daft. They must have known this was completely out of keeping. Were they hoping that nobody would notice, or are they just cynically relying on the Council rubber stamping it? The design is completely wrong, no amount of fiddling about can make it any better. Shipley College should tear it up and start again, this time with an architect who knows what he is doing and respects the work of Lockwood & Mawson. Grumpygirl
  • Score: 8

1:51pm Wed 26 Mar 14

basil fawlty says...

I agree with the above, it's ugly and isn't in keeping with the area. Bradford has already seen far too many major planning blunders and the Council needs to get its act together and stop constantly giving in to developers and wrecking the district.
I agree with the above, it's ugly and isn't in keeping with the area. Bradford has already seen far too many major planning blunders and the Council needs to get its act together and stop constantly giving in to developers and wrecking the district. basil fawlty
  • Score: 8

9:37am Thu 27 Mar 14

More of the same.. says...

Philip Davis!

Oh yes; that politician... I really value all his comments.

He did; not do enough, to keep the Shipley Sorting office open. In case you all had forgotten.

Another Architectural travesty for Shipley.
Philip Davis! Oh yes; that politician... I really value all his comments. He did; not do enough, to keep the Shipley Sorting office open. In case you all had forgotten. Another Architectural travesty for Shipley. More of the same..
  • Score: 2

12:19pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Outraged Of Saltaire says...

I continue to be outraged!
These gardens are the first thing many tourists see when they visit Saltaire by coach, they disembark right beside the gardens and are afforded privileged views from their elevated position on the coach. The Gardens make a significant contribution to the visitor experience, it helps to set the scene of a once rural environment. On the UNESCO website they acknowledge that Saltire was originally built in a rural setting, they go on the say that they recognise that urbanisation occurred in the subsequent 100 years that followed but also add that it is important to preserve whatever sense of ruralness that still exists hence the creation of the buffer zone. (you can see the boundary of the buffer zone on Bradford councils website). Do not underestimate the positive impact this established open space has for those that live and visit the area. Saltaire relies upon its tourist trade. Tourists support a wider range of business's than those that could say they benefit from presence of the college and more importantly the tourist come throughout the year. The college is closed for four months of the each year. Tourist on the whole tend to respect the places they visit, I bet if you asked any resident who live near the three main buildings that make up the campus* of Shipley College, they would tell you tails of litter, chewing gum concentrated on the footpaths outside all the college buildings and the public areas that the students use to smoke are littered with cigarette ends.
This proposal does nothing to preserve the character of the conservation area and would impact very negatively on the World Heritage Site and the visitor experience.

I shall continue to be outraged.

Kind regards

Outraged Of Saltaire

*Campus, a term frequently used by those from Shipley College. However, we prefer to use the term 'Village' Saltaire Village
I continue to be outraged! These gardens are the first thing many tourists see when they visit Saltaire by coach, they disembark right beside the gardens and are afforded privileged views from their elevated position on the coach. The Gardens make a significant contribution to the visitor experience, it helps to set the scene of a once rural environment. On the UNESCO website they acknowledge that Saltire was originally built in a rural setting, they go on the say that they recognise that urbanisation occurred in the subsequent 100 years that followed but also add that it is important to preserve whatever sense of ruralness that still exists hence the creation of the buffer zone. (you can see the boundary of the buffer zone on Bradford councils website). Do not underestimate the positive impact this established open space has for those that live and visit the area. Saltaire relies upon its tourist trade. Tourists support a wider range of business's than those that could say they benefit from presence of the college and more importantly the tourist come throughout the year. The college is closed for four months of the each year. Tourist on the whole tend to respect the places they visit, I bet if you asked any resident who live near the three main buildings that make up the campus* of Shipley College, they would tell you tails of litter, chewing gum concentrated on the footpaths outside all the college buildings and the public areas that the students use to smoke are littered with cigarette ends. This proposal does nothing to preserve the character of the conservation area and would impact very negatively on the World Heritage Site and the visitor experience. I shall continue to be outraged. Kind regards Outraged Of Saltaire *Campus, a term frequently used by those from Shipley College. However, we prefer to use the term 'Village' Saltaire Village Outraged Of Saltaire
  • Score: 2

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