'Building could ruin Saltaire's World Heritage Site'

An artist's impression of the building

An artist's impression of the building

First published in News Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , T&A Reporter

Plans by Shipley College to construct a £1.9 million building in Saltaire could ruin the feel of the World Heritage Site, according to some residents.

The two-storey building would replace greenhouses used by the horticultural department on Exhibition Road, and the full planning application will be made public in the coming days.

It has been designed for students with learning difficulties. If the building gets the go-ahead from Bradford Council the college hopes to start construction in June, and open in April, 2015.

Saltaire Village Society held an “extraordinary” meeting with college principal Nav Chohan to discuss the plans on Tuesday evening.

Although described as “heated” by some who attended, the society has said will not likely be putting forward an official stance on the plans - its chairman said members had differing views on the proposals.

Chairman Vanessa Pilny said: “I don’t think there is going to be a unanimous position from the society. Some people are quite concerned about this, others are more supportive of it.”

She said some of the objectors had organised a meeting for next week, by which point the planning application will likely have been made public.

Mr Chohan said: “Shipley College is privileged to be based in the heart of Saltaire World Heritage Site and deeply committed to preserving the buildings as a community asset for the people of Bradford and beyond. We aim to design a modern day build which will blend sympathetically with the surrounding area and all its rich history. The development is critical to maintaining the College’s ability to meet future demands, both educational and economic.

“The proposed new build will cost £1.9 million and the target given is for work to be completed in March 2015. This is a great opportunity for high need learners.

“The additional students we can teach and develop will secure the College funding so that we can maintain these beautiful buildings.”

Andrew Brown, from Maddocks Street, said the site was an “antique garden” and believes the modern building, on the doorstep of Salts Mill, would spoil the feel of Saltaire.

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8:41am Thu 20 Mar 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

This will stand out like a Bulldogs B*****ks there is no way this should be allowed to be built. There must be a way of blending the exterior into its surroundings.
This will stand out like a Bulldogs B*****ks there is no way this should be allowed to be built. There must be a way of blending the exterior into its surroundings. fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 20

9:29am Thu 20 Mar 14

sorrow&anger says...

The building will dominate the views south from Salts Mill and it should not be allowed. It is ugly and out of keeping. Bradford has very few tourist assets and this will downgrade the most important. Everywhere else if a Council is lucky enough to have a World Heritage Site then it does all it can to protect its character.

Can't see something like this being built in front of the Taj Mahal (not the restaurant).
The building will dominate the views south from Salts Mill and it should not be allowed. It is ugly and out of keeping. Bradford has very few tourist assets and this will downgrade the most important. Everywhere else if a Council is lucky enough to have a World Heritage Site then it does all it can to protect its character. Can't see something like this being built in front of the Taj Mahal (not the restaurant). sorrow&anger
  • Score: 27

10:08am Thu 20 Mar 14

BaildonGuy says...

The College should not have let this get beyond the drawing board. It's ugly and unsympathetic. But so are the tin sheds going on Buck Lane and the Council architect approved them, praising their 'quality of design'. Bang goes our World Heritage site.
The College should not have let this get beyond the drawing board. It's ugly and unsympathetic. But so are the tin sheds going on Buck Lane and the Council architect approved them, praising their 'quality of design'. Bang goes our World Heritage site. BaildonGuy
  • Score: 14

10:19am Thu 20 Mar 14

pcmanners says...

Doubtless the PC trendies from the Saltaire Village Society couldn't come a conclusion because, although the building is obviously and spectacularly ugly, they where afraid of objecting to something for the disadvantaged. They should instead ask themselves why the College is giving the disadvantaged something so undeniably third rate.
Doubtless the PC trendies from the Saltaire Village Society couldn't come a conclusion because, although the building is obviously and spectacularly ugly, they where afraid of objecting to something for the disadvantaged. They should instead ask themselves why the College is giving the disadvantaged something so undeniably third rate. pcmanners
  • Score: 15

10:21am Thu 20 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Can't see the problem, the building looks far nicer than it's would be neighbour, the Caroline Street social club, which, frankly, is an eye sore.
Can't see the problem, the building looks far nicer than it's would be neighbour, the Caroline Street social club, which, frankly, is an eye sore. Bone_idle18
  • Score: -7

10:35am Thu 20 Mar 14

Grumpygirl says...

It's awful and an insult to the vision of Lockwood and Mawson. Why do today's inferior architects have no respect for the past? As a responsible member of the Community the College should never have allowed this to see the light of day.

However, on a positive note; if City Hall succeeds in building its 'regional city' of 28,000 homes in and around Shipley without upgrading the infrastructure as it presently intends to, nobody will be able to get to Saltaire because of the traffic jams and this monstrosity will go unviewed.
It's awful and an insult to the vision of Lockwood and Mawson. Why do today's inferior architects have no respect for the past? As a responsible member of the Community the College should never have allowed this to see the light of day. However, on a positive note; if City Hall succeeds in building its 'regional city' of 28,000 homes in and around Shipley without upgrading the infrastructure as it presently intends to, nobody will be able to get to Saltaire because of the traffic jams and this monstrosity will go unviewed. Grumpygirl
  • Score: -3

10:39am Thu 20 Mar 14

Grumpygirl says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Can't see the problem, the building looks far nicer than it's would be neighbour, the Caroline Street social club, which, frankly, is an eye sore.
Two wrongs don't make a right. The Social Club is just another testament to City Hall's attitude towards our built environment. The Council are destroying all that's good about Bradford as fast as they can.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Can't see the problem, the building looks far nicer than it's would be neighbour, the Caroline Street social club, which, frankly, is an eye sore.[/p][/quote]Two wrongs don't make a right. The Social Club is just another testament to City Hall's attitude towards our built environment. The Council are destroying all that's good about Bradford as fast as they can. Grumpygirl
  • Score: 9

12:15pm Thu 20 Mar 14

The Hoffster says...

I wonder how many minutes it took 'the artist' to come up with that?
I wonder how many minutes it took 'the artist' to come up with that? The Hoffster
  • Score: 2

12:39pm Thu 20 Mar 14

bobbyo says...

Build it from similiar stone as rest of saltaire, to blend in, if it costs millions tough!
Build it from similiar stone as rest of saltaire, to blend in, if it costs millions tough! bobbyo
  • Score: 6

1:35pm Thu 20 Mar 14

collos25 says...

A bright new building amongst what most people regard as a tip, heritage site do not make me laugh a gloomy old mill where people had to slave to make a pittance so Titus Salt could live his life of splendor.
A bright new building amongst what most people regard as a tip, heritage site do not make me laugh a gloomy old mill where people had to slave to make a pittance so Titus Salt could live his life of splendor. collos25
  • Score: -19

2:00pm Thu 20 Mar 14

The Hoffster says...

collos25 wrote:
A bright new building amongst what most people regard as a tip, heritage site do not make me laugh a gloomy old mill where people had to slave to make a pittance so Titus Salt could live his life of splendor.
I doubt if that was true re. Sir Titus Salt.

Also, some have said something similar re. Sir Samuel Lister (in regards to Listers' Mill).

Anyone know if the latter was oblivious or didn't care for *his* workers?
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: A bright new building amongst what most people regard as a tip, heritage site do not make me laugh a gloomy old mill where people had to slave to make a pittance so Titus Salt could live his life of splendor.[/p][/quote]I doubt if that was true re. Sir Titus Salt. Also, some have said something similar re. Sir Samuel Lister (in regards to Listers' Mill). Anyone know if the latter was oblivious or didn't care for *his* workers? The Hoffster
  • Score: 0

2:14pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

The Hoffster wrote:
collos25 wrote:
A bright new building amongst what most people regard as a tip, heritage site do not make me laugh a gloomy old mill where people had to slave to make a pittance so Titus Salt could live his life of splendor.
I doubt if that was true re. Sir Titus Salt.

Also, some have said something similar re. Sir Samuel Lister (in regards to Listers' Mill).

Anyone know if the latter was oblivious or didn't care for *his* workers?
If he cared he'd have build pubs :)
[quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: A bright new building amongst what most people regard as a tip, heritage site do not make me laugh a gloomy old mill where people had to slave to make a pittance so Titus Salt could live his life of splendor.[/p][/quote]I doubt if that was true re. Sir Titus Salt. Also, some have said something similar re. Sir Samuel Lister (in regards to Listers' Mill). Anyone know if the latter was oblivious or didn't care for *his* workers?[/p][/quote]If he cared he'd have build pubs :) Bone_idle18
  • Score: -5

2:37pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Grumpygirl wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Can't see the problem, the building looks far nicer than it's would be neighbour, the Caroline Street social club, which, frankly, is an eye sore.
Two wrongs don't make a right. The Social Club is just another testament to City Hall's attitude towards our built environment. The Council are destroying all that's good about Bradford as fast as they can.
I imagine Titus Salt has similar problems with narrow minded people moaning about his modern mill and village in the countryside and it not fitting in!
[quote][p][bold]Grumpygirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Can't see the problem, the building looks far nicer than it's would be neighbour, the Caroline Street social club, which, frankly, is an eye sore.[/p][/quote]Two wrongs don't make a right. The Social Club is just another testament to City Hall's attitude towards our built environment. The Council are destroying all that's good about Bradford as fast as they can.[/p][/quote]I imagine Titus Salt has similar problems with narrow minded people moaning about his modern mill and village in the countryside and it not fitting in! Bone_idle18
  • Score: -2

2:46pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Grumpygirl wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Can't see the problem, the building looks far nicer than it's would be neighbour, the Caroline Street social club, which, frankly, is an eye sore.
Two wrongs don't make a right. The Social Club is just another testament to City Hall's attitude towards our built environment. The Council are destroying all that's good about Bradford as fast as they can.
I imagine Titus Salt has similar problems with narrow minded people moaning about his modern mill and village in the countryside and it not fitting in!
Narrow minded comment not directed at you Grumpy girl, I was generalising!
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Grumpygirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Can't see the problem, the building looks far nicer than it's would be neighbour, the Caroline Street social club, which, frankly, is an eye sore.[/p][/quote]Two wrongs don't make a right. The Social Club is just another testament to City Hall's attitude towards our built environment. The Council are destroying all that's good about Bradford as fast as they can.[/p][/quote]I imagine Titus Salt has similar problems with narrow minded people moaning about his modern mill and village in the countryside and it not fitting in![/p][/quote]Narrow minded comment not directed at you Grumpy girl, I was generalising! Bone_idle18
  • Score: -3

4:58pm Thu 20 Mar 14

More of the same.. says...

SEN kids deserve a whole lot better than this - in a larger location off the main Shipley college campus. Perhaps in Shipley somewhere. There are lots of areas there; which could do with development.

Saltaire does not deserve this construction.

This design is frightful.

Historically BDMC have made some very interesting choices regarding 'Development' within the district.

*Heaven help us*
SEN kids deserve a whole lot better than this - in a larger location off the main Shipley college campus. Perhaps in Shipley somewhere. There are lots of areas there; which could do with development. Saltaire does not deserve this construction. This design is frightful. Historically BDMC have made some very interesting choices regarding 'Development' within the district. *Heaven help us* More of the same..
  • Score: 3

5:15pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Cheeky boo says...

It's rather frustrating to see double standards with regards to planning guidelines set out for the village of Saltaire. Where residents and business owners locally have many restrictions placed upon their business and properties still living without modern luxuries such as double glazing at the cost of being a collective respectful that they live in world heritage site. People pay a premium to live in houses built for the poor because there is a real sense that they live in a historically important and conservation protected area. Most have very little in the way of garden and cherish Roberts park, allotments and college garden as their green space. Funny then that a proposal funded in part by bradford council to be approved by bradford council has been drawn up to provide learning accommodation that bears no sympathy architecturally towards the area whatsoever. It's one rule for them and one for all others. I hope that everyone who cares will write a letter of objection to this proposal. And yes Caroline St club is an eyesore it lets down the area and needs bulldozing and rebuilding along with this ridiculous plan.
It's rather frustrating to see double standards with regards to planning guidelines set out for the village of Saltaire. Where residents and business owners locally have many restrictions placed upon their business and properties still living without modern luxuries such as double glazing at the cost of being a collective respectful that they live in world heritage site. People pay a premium to live in houses built for the poor because there is a real sense that they live in a historically important and conservation protected area. Most have very little in the way of garden and cherish Roberts park, allotments and college garden as their green space. Funny then that a proposal funded in part by bradford council to be approved by bradford council has been drawn up to provide learning accommodation that bears no sympathy architecturally towards the area whatsoever. It's one rule for them and one for all others. I hope that everyone who cares will write a letter of objection to this proposal. And yes Caroline St club is an eyesore it lets down the area and needs bulldozing and rebuilding along with this ridiculous plan. Cheeky boo
  • Score: 12

8:31am Fri 21 Mar 14

johnh1 says...

fedupwiththeBS wrote:
This will stand out like a Bulldogs B*****ks there is no way this should be allowed to be built. There must be a way of blending the exterior into its surroundings.
Blending costs money.
[quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: This will stand out like a Bulldogs B*****ks there is no way this should be allowed to be built. There must be a way of blending the exterior into its surroundings.[/p][/quote]Blending costs money. johnh1
  • Score: 0

10:23pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Cheeky boo says...

The plans etc are available on the Bradford District Planning portal .

A simple search for Exhibition Road ( not Shipley College funnily enough) will provide all interested parties with the 16 documents submitted by the college.

The dead line for all who which to object; to this 'wonderful', 'well thought out' not to mention 'pleasing', 'fusion', 'master piece of design', is the 10th of April.

Please BDMC planning dept.make it go away.
The plans etc are available on the Bradford District Planning portal . A simple search for Exhibition Road ( not Shipley College funnily enough) will provide all interested parties with the 16 documents submitted by the college. The dead line for all who which to object; to this 'wonderful', 'well thought out' not to mention 'pleasing', 'fusion', 'master piece of design', is the 10th of April. Please BDMC planning dept.make it go away. Cheeky boo
  • Score: 1

2:21pm Tue 25 Mar 14

More of the same.. says...

A series of meetings have been held with both Jon Ackroyd the Senior Conservation and Design Officer and Helen Thornton the World Heritage Officer to review the scale,
massing, design, materials, impact on the World Heritage Site and redline boundary. and guess what:- THE PLANS STILL GO IN !

They are not very good at their job it would seem.
A series of meetings have been held with both Jon Ackroyd the Senior Conservation and Design Officer and Helen Thornton the World Heritage Officer to review the scale, massing, design, materials, impact on the World Heritage Site and redline boundary. and guess what:- THE PLANS STILL GO IN ! They are not very good at their job it would seem. More of the same..
  • Score: 1

12:03pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Outraged Of Saltaire says...

I'm baffled that the open spaces in the long established Saltaire Conservation Area (Est. 1971) are not afforded the same level of protection than the structures and buildings that form part of the same.

Relations between Shipley College and those that live within the 'triangle' of their 'campus' are already strained and have been for years as the residents and other local business owners tolerate anti social behaviours due to the pressence of Shipley College in Saltaire Village.

Shipley College should look to build a bridge with the community, not an eyesore.
I'm baffled that the open spaces in the long established Saltaire Conservation Area (Est. 1971) are not afforded the same level of protection than the structures and buildings that form part of the same. Relations between Shipley College and those that live within the 'triangle' of their 'campus' are already strained and have been for years as the residents and other local business owners tolerate anti social behaviours due to the pressence of Shipley College in Saltaire Village. Shipley College should look to build a bridge with the community, not an eyesore. Outraged Of Saltaire
  • Score: 1

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