Bradford Odeon dome beams to be repaired in £1.32m work

The Odeon building

The Odeon building

First published in News Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , City Hall Reporter

Corroding steel beams supporting the Odeon building’s iconic domes are to be repaired.

Bradford Council is embarking on a £1.32 million scheme of urgent remedial and health and safety work on the city-centre landmark, paid for by its former owner, which includes the removal of recently-discovered asbestos and repairs to a Victorian culvert.

It is part of the deal which was struck when the Council bought the building from the Homes and Communities Agency (HCA) for the sum of £1.

Andy Taylor, the Council’s economic development delivery manager, explained the project said: “We took over the building from the Homes an Communities Agency for the princely sum of £1.

“Alongside that, we got a grant of £1.32m from the HCA for the health and safety and remedial work on the building.”

Mr Taylor said surveys of the building, carried out before the transfer, had revealed a number of structural problems which needed to be fixed as soon as possible.

These included corrosion to some steel ring beams which hold up the building’s two signature domes.

Mr Taylor said: “It’s not serious, in the sense that they won’t fall down, but they will need to be repaired.”

The Council has now appointed consultants to provide advice on how best to repair them.

The authority is also seeking advice from consultants on how to repair a Victorian culvert that takes the Bradford Beck through the car park behind the Odeon and passes underneath a corner of the building itself.

Mr Taylor said while the culvert was not leaking or flooding, its age meant it needed work doing to it.

And the Council’s asbestos team has found the potentially-deadly material in previously boarded-up rooms while conducting routine checks.

The majority of the asbestos was removed under the HCA’s ownership but more has now been found in doors and between the walls of the rooms.

A team will begin to remove this on Monday and it is hoped this work will be finished by early April, so the Council can start to remove old furniture and carpets from the building.

In total, the work is expected to use up the £1.32m HCA grant, which needs to be spent by March 2015 under the terms of the transfer.

The Council is considering three development plans for the building, which would see it become either a live performance venue, a creative hub or a swimming pool and leisure centre.

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10:55am Sat 1 Mar 14

bcfc1903 says...

Good news that the HCA grant is being used to improve the Odeon building and Bradford Beck culvert.

A live performance concert venue would be the best use of this iconic building, the swimming pool is old hat and and shows absolutely no imagination for such an important part of Bradford City Centre. Live concerts bring in folk from far and wide with money in their pockets, a swimming pool will not do that to anywhere near the same extent, you can build those anywhere but such a centrally and well positioned plot lends it's self to a live concert venue with the added bonus of using the very same facility as a conference centre, it's a win win choice, a swimming pool is a white elephant loser. So Bradford council need to make the correct decision for the city of Bradford, nothing else should come into the equation.
Good news that the HCA grant is being used to improve the Odeon building and Bradford Beck culvert. A live performance concert venue would be the best use of this iconic building, the swimming pool is old hat and and shows absolutely no imagination for such an important part of Bradford City Centre. Live concerts bring in folk from far and wide with money in their pockets, a swimming pool will not do that to anywhere near the same extent, you can build those anywhere but such a centrally and well positioned plot lends it's self to a live concert venue with the added bonus of using the very same facility as a conference centre, it's a win win choice, a swimming pool is a white elephant loser. So Bradford council need to make the correct decision for the city of Bradford, nothing else should come into the equation. bcfc1903
  • Score: 37

11:28am Sat 1 Mar 14

Avro says...

What is the point of spending another penny on this building until a decision on its future has been made?
What is the point of spending another penny on this building until a decision on its future has been made? Avro
  • Score: -9

11:54am Sat 1 Mar 14

BD16 says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Good news that the HCA grant is being used to improve the Odeon building and Bradford Beck culvert.

A live performance concert venue would be the best use of this iconic building, the swimming pool is old hat and and shows absolutely no imagination for such an important part of Bradford City Centre. Live concerts bring in folk from far and wide with money in their pockets, a swimming pool will not do that to anywhere near the same extent, you can build those anywhere but such a centrally and well positioned plot lends it's self to a live concert venue with the added bonus of using the very same facility as a conference centre, it's a win win choice, a swimming pool is a white elephant loser. So Bradford council need to make the correct decision for the city of Bradford, nothing else should come into the equation.
I agree, but we need to find a decent name for it.........

I travel quite a bit and know from personal experience that the knock on benefits from conferences and trade shows can be huge. Many visitors and attendees need somewhere to eat, drink and sleep. It could be huge for the centre of Bradford if something like this could be achieved.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good news that the HCA grant is being used to improve the Odeon building and Bradford Beck culvert. A live performance concert venue would be the best use of this iconic building, the swimming pool is old hat and and shows absolutely no imagination for such an important part of Bradford City Centre. Live concerts bring in folk from far and wide with money in their pockets, a swimming pool will not do that to anywhere near the same extent, you can build those anywhere but such a centrally and well positioned plot lends it's self to a live concert venue with the added bonus of using the very same facility as a conference centre, it's a win win choice, a swimming pool is a white elephant loser. So Bradford council need to make the correct decision for the city of Bradford, nothing else should come into the equation.[/p][/quote]I agree, but we need to find a decent name for it......... I travel quite a bit and know from personal experience that the knock on benefits from conferences and trade shows can be huge. Many visitors and attendees need somewhere to eat, drink and sleep. It could be huge for the centre of Bradford if something like this could be achieved. BD16
  • Score: 11

12:07pm Sat 1 Mar 14

gwebbo says...

Waste of money again and how much has the scaffolding cost so far.Its an embarassing joke and an eyesore of a building pull it down and build new all this for some poxy domes not even a nice building.
Waste of money again and how much has the scaffolding cost so far.Its an embarassing joke and an eyesore of a building pull it down and build new all this for some poxy domes not even a nice building. gwebbo
  • Score: -25

12:26pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Moggiemad says...

My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues?
Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.
My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues? Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre. Moggiemad
  • Score: -16

12:42pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Joedavid says...

Moggiemad wrote:
My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues?
Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.
Where is the other one?
[quote][p][bold]Moggiemad[/bold] wrote: My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues? Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.[/p][/quote]Where is the other one? Joedavid
  • Score: 9

1:39pm Sat 1 Mar 14

mad matt says...

Joedavid wrote:
Moggiemad wrote:
My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues?
Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.
Where is the other one?
St George's Hall
[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Moggiemad[/bold] wrote: My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues? Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.[/p][/quote]Where is the other one?[/p][/quote]St George's Hall mad matt
  • Score: 2

2:29pm Sat 1 Mar 14

WISE OLD WALTER says...

mad matt wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
Moggiemad wrote:
My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues?
Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.
Where is the other one?
St George's Hall
Yes and having been twice in the last twelve months found it not fit for purpose, we need a 21st century music venue in this city. St Georges has served the city well in the past, but has neither the capacity or facilities to attract the acts that are touring the 'arena ' circuit .This city could support two venues which would attract more people who bring in more revenue.
[quote][p][bold]mad matt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Moggiemad[/bold] wrote: My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues? Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.[/p][/quote]Where is the other one?[/p][/quote]St George's Hall[/p][/quote]Yes and having been twice in the last twelve months found it not fit for purpose, we need a 21st century music venue in this city. St Georges has served the city well in the past, but has neither the capacity or facilities to attract the acts that are touring the 'arena ' circuit .This city could support two venues which would attract more people who bring in more revenue. WISE OLD WALTER
  • Score: 15

2:45pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Joedavid says...

mad matt wrote:
Joedavid wrote:
Moggiemad wrote:
My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues?
Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.
Where is the other one?
St George's Hall
No comparison.
Capacity of St. Georges around 1500 but not all can see all the stage and if you not small many seats are not comfortable.
New Victoria well over twice as many capacity all see all the stage and comfortable.
[quote][p][bold]mad matt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Moggiemad[/bold] wrote: My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues? Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.[/p][/quote]Where is the other one?[/p][/quote]St George's Hall[/p][/quote]No comparison. Capacity of St. Georges around 1500 but not all can see all the stage and if you not small many seats are not comfortable. New Victoria well over twice as many capacity all see all the stage and comfortable. Joedavid
  • Score: 8

3:20pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Albion. says...

Avro wrote:
What is the point of spending another penny on this building until a decision on its future has been made?
Andy Taylor, the Council’s economic development delivery manager, explained the project said: “We took over the building from the Homes an Communities Agency for the princely sum of £1.

“Alongside that, we got a grant of £1.32m from the HCA for the health and safety and remedial work on the building.”
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: What is the point of spending another penny on this building until a decision on its future has been made?[/p][/quote]Andy Taylor, the Council’s economic development delivery manager, explained the project said: “We took over the building from the Homes an Communities Agency for the princely sum of £1. “Alongside that, we got a grant of £1.32m from the HCA for the health and safety and remedial work on the building.” Albion.
  • Score: 7

5:00pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Avro says...

Correct, but surely a decision on its future comes first, which according to the Council is due in March, and may yet include demolition.
Correct, but surely a decision on its future comes first, which according to the Council is due in March, and may yet include demolition. Avro
  • Score: -10

5:32pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Joedavid says...

Avro wrote:
Correct, but surely a decision on its future comes first, which according to the Council is due in March, and may yet include demolition.
Think you should read the procedure for the bids, think it will be a year away before that is completed. The March announcement to which you refer is the first stage of seeing which of the proposals will continue to the next stage.
As you were told above the HCA (Government) has given the Council money to do this urgent work to ensure the building is ok until the time comes for someone to take it on.
Sadly the word demolish would come into play after the procedure if none chosen.
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: Correct, but surely a decision on its future comes first, which according to the Council is due in March, and may yet include demolition.[/p][/quote]Think you should read the procedure for the bids, think it will be a year away before that is completed. The March announcement to which you refer is the first stage of seeing which of the proposals will continue to the next stage. As you were told above the HCA (Government) has given the Council money to do this urgent work to ensure the building is ok until the time comes for someone to take it on. Sadly the word demolish would come into play after the procedure if none chosen. Joedavid
  • Score: 8

8:09pm Sat 1 Mar 14

bcfc1903 says...

Moggiemad wrote:
My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues?
Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.
I'm sure St George's Hall will continue to attract the acts it gets year after year which has an audience in West Yorkshire just like the Alhambra has, obviously the Bradford Live facility would be a step up in quality attracting world class acts to Bradford city centre with the facility having a capacity of around 4,000. The idea of a swimming pool is mind numbingly bad. Surely Shipley baths have just been refurbished, now there's talk of another swimming pool in Bradford, it beggars belief that anyone would want that facility where the Odeon is. Bradford deserves far better and putting a swimming pool in that prime city centre position which would be an absolute joke.
[quote][p][bold]Moggiemad[/bold] wrote: My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues? Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.[/p][/quote]I'm sure St George's Hall will continue to attract the acts it gets year after year which has an audience in West Yorkshire just like the Alhambra has, obviously the Bradford Live facility would be a step up in quality attracting world class acts to Bradford city centre with the facility having a capacity of around 4,000. The idea of a swimming pool is mind numbingly bad. Surely Shipley baths have just been refurbished, now there's talk of another swimming pool in Bradford, it beggars belief that anyone would want that facility where the Odeon is. Bradford deserves far better and putting a swimming pool in that prime city centre position which would be an absolute joke. bcfc1903
  • Score: 11

8:09pm Sat 1 Mar 14

bcfc1903 says...

Moggiemad wrote:
My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues?
Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.
I'm sure St George's Hall will continue to attract the acts it gets year after year which has an audience in West Yorkshire just like the Alhambra has, obviously the Bradford Live facility would be a step up in quality attracting world class acts to Bradford city centre with the facility having a capacity of around 4,000. The idea of a swimming pool is mind numbingly bad. Surely Shipley baths have just been refurbished, now there's talk of another swimming pool in Bradford, it beggars belief that anyone would want that facility where the Odeon is. Bradford deserves far better and putting a swimming pool in that prime city centre position which would be an absolute joke.
[quote][p][bold]Moggiemad[/bold] wrote: My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues? Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.[/p][/quote]I'm sure St George's Hall will continue to attract the acts it gets year after year which has an audience in West Yorkshire just like the Alhambra has, obviously the Bradford Live facility would be a step up in quality attracting world class acts to Bradford city centre with the facility having a capacity of around 4,000. The idea of a swimming pool is mind numbingly bad. Surely Shipley baths have just been refurbished, now there's talk of another swimming pool in Bradford, it beggars belief that anyone would want that facility where the Odeon is. Bradford deserves far better and putting a swimming pool in that prime city centre position which would be an absolute joke. bcfc1903
  • Score: 6

9:11pm Sat 1 Mar 14

smitd says...

Shipley baths have just been refurbished have they, have you been since the work was done because they still a **** tip inside
Shipley baths have just been refurbished have they, have you been since the work was done because they still a **** tip inside smitd
  • Score: 5

10:17pm Sat 1 Mar 14

SuttonGraeme says...

Anybody who has ever been to a modern high class conference venue will know that the Odeon could never be one. Visit the ICC in Birmingham, Harrogate, Brighton, that's just to name a few. I've been to large hotels with the ability to host 5-6000 in a trade show. Why would you hold a conference in Bradford? Everybody moans at the possibility of a new hotel in the City, but without them how do you house the 4,000 people you envisage? Where do your delegates eat? The kebab house opposite Wetherspoons? As for attracting world class acts to a 4,000 seat venue? World class? 4,000 seats? Play in Leeds, Manchester, Sheffield. Why would anybody invest in a venue with other ones so close?

The Odeon needs pulling down, that your mum and dad met at the Gaumont dancing to Lonnie Donegan or you once saw Gremlins 2 at the Odeon or because the last time an old building in Bradford was demolished the replacement was not as good is not reason to save a decrepit building. If the wheel and fire had been invented in Bradford the residents would have reckon is new fangled stuff will never catch on.
Anybody who has ever been to a modern high class conference venue will know that the Odeon could never be one. Visit the ICC in Birmingham, Harrogate, Brighton, that's just to name a few. I've been to large hotels with the ability to host 5-6000 in a trade show. Why would you hold a conference in Bradford? Everybody moans at the possibility of a new hotel in the City, but without them how do you house the 4,000 people you envisage? Where do your delegates eat? The kebab house opposite Wetherspoons? As for attracting world class acts to a 4,000 seat venue? World class? 4,000 seats? Play in Leeds, Manchester, Sheffield. Why would anybody invest in a venue with other ones so close? The Odeon needs pulling down, that your mum and dad met at the Gaumont dancing to Lonnie Donegan or you once saw Gremlins 2 at the Odeon or because the last time an old building in Bradford was demolished the replacement was not as good is not reason to save a decrepit building. If the wheel and fire had been invented in Bradford the residents would have reckon is new fangled stuff will never catch on. SuttonGraeme
  • Score: -13

11:52pm Sat 1 Mar 14

moanmoanwhingewhinge says...

SuttonGraeme wrote:
Anybody who has ever been to a modern high class conference venue will know that the Odeon could never be one. Visit the ICC in Birmingham, Harrogate, Brighton, that's just to name a few. I've been to large hotels with the ability to host 5-6000 in a trade show. Why would you hold a conference in Bradford? Everybody moans at the possibility of a new hotel in the City, but without them how do you house the 4,000 people you envisage? Where do your delegates eat? The kebab house opposite Wetherspoons? As for attracting world class acts to a 4,000 seat venue? World class? 4,000 seats? Play in Leeds, Manchester, Sheffield. Why would anybody invest in a venue with other ones so close?

The Odeon needs pulling down, that your mum and dad met at the Gaumont dancing to Lonnie Donegan or you once saw Gremlins 2 at the Odeon or because the last time an old building in Bradford was demolished the replacement was not as good is not reason to save a decrepit building. If the wheel and fire had been invented in Bradford the residents would have reckon is new fangled stuff will never catch on.
No, if the wheel and fire had been invented in Bradford the constant sniping and negativity of people like you would have seen them developed elsewhere.

Did people in L666s, Manchester and Sheffield say 'Why build a venue, other ones are close?'. No, but then again those cities aren't 'blessed' with the unique brand of utter cynicism that Bradfordians have about every single thing connected with their home city.
[quote][p][bold]SuttonGraeme[/bold] wrote: Anybody who has ever been to a modern high class conference venue will know that the Odeon could never be one. Visit the ICC in Birmingham, Harrogate, Brighton, that's just to name a few. I've been to large hotels with the ability to host 5-6000 in a trade show. Why would you hold a conference in Bradford? Everybody moans at the possibility of a new hotel in the City, but without them how do you house the 4,000 people you envisage? Where do your delegates eat? The kebab house opposite Wetherspoons? As for attracting world class acts to a 4,000 seat venue? World class? 4,000 seats? Play in Leeds, Manchester, Sheffield. Why would anybody invest in a venue with other ones so close? The Odeon needs pulling down, that your mum and dad met at the Gaumont dancing to Lonnie Donegan or you once saw Gremlins 2 at the Odeon or because the last time an old building in Bradford was demolished the replacement was not as good is not reason to save a decrepit building. If the wheel and fire had been invented in Bradford the residents would have reckon is new fangled stuff will never catch on.[/p][/quote]No, if the wheel and fire had been invented in Bradford the constant sniping and negativity of people like you would have seen them developed elsewhere. Did people in L666s, Manchester and Sheffield say 'Why build a venue, other ones are close?'. No, but then again those cities aren't 'blessed' with the unique brand of utter cynicism that Bradfordians have about every single thing connected with their home city. moanmoanwhingewhinge
  • Score: 10

10:37am Sun 2 Mar 14

Avro says...

Joedavid wrote:
Avro wrote:
Correct, but surely a decision on its future comes first, which according to the Council is due in March, and may yet include demolition.
Think you should read the procedure for the bids, think it will be a year away before that is completed. The March announcement to which you refer is the first stage of seeing which of the proposals will continue to the next stage.
As you were told above the HCA (Government) has given the Council money to do this urgent work to ensure the building is ok until the time comes for someone to take it on.
Sadly the word demolish would come into play after the procedure if none chosen.
So in the meantime we spend someone elses money on something that has yet to be decided - typical of our counciul, and the fact is that the money doess not have to be spent until 2015.
[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: Correct, but surely a decision on its future comes first, which according to the Council is due in March, and may yet include demolition.[/p][/quote]Think you should read the procedure for the bids, think it will be a year away before that is completed. The March announcement to which you refer is the first stage of seeing which of the proposals will continue to the next stage. As you were told above the HCA (Government) has given the Council money to do this urgent work to ensure the building is ok until the time comes for someone to take it on. Sadly the word demolish would come into play after the procedure if none chosen.[/p][/quote]So in the meantime we spend someone elses money on something that has yet to be decided - typical of our counciul, and the fact is that the money doess not have to be spent until 2015. Avro
  • Score: -3

12:08pm Sun 2 Mar 14

bcfc1903 says...

SuttonGraeme wrote:
Anybody who has ever been to a modern high class conference venue will know that the Odeon could never be one. Visit the ICC in Birmingham, Harrogate, Brighton, that's just to name a few. I've been to large hotels with the ability to host 5-6000 in a trade show. Why would you hold a conference in Bradford? Everybody moans at the possibility of a new hotel in the City, but without them how do you house the 4,000 people you envisage? Where do your delegates eat? The kebab house opposite Wetherspoons? As for attracting world class acts to a 4,000 seat venue? World class? 4,000 seats? Play in Leeds, Manchester, Sheffield. Why would anybody invest in a venue with other ones so close?

The Odeon needs pulling down, that your mum and dad met at the Gaumont dancing to Lonnie Donegan or you once saw Gremlins 2 at the Odeon or because the last time an old building in Bradford was demolished the replacement was not as good is not reason to save a decrepit building. If the wheel and fire had been invented in Bradford the residents would have reckon is new fangled stuff will never catch on.
I guess with that attitude we may as well all pack up and move to the garden city that is Leeds.

I know i'm wasting my time but here goes. If Bradford is to continue to improve then facilities such as Bradford Live should be built, there are plenty of hotels in and around Bradford that would service any conference attendees. They would also cater for any long distance concert goers. This sort of footfall is the life blood of hotels in most major cities, Bradford should not be excluded from such a fruitful cash injection as it's one of the bigger cities in the UK. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see the footfall such a facility would bring to local restaurants and retail outlets a couple of years down the line. It's a no brainer that such a world class city centre facility would be a massive boost to the local economy. What can I say about the proposed swimming pool scheme.........nothi
ng!!!!
[quote][p][bold]SuttonGraeme[/bold] wrote: Anybody who has ever been to a modern high class conference venue will know that the Odeon could never be one. Visit the ICC in Birmingham, Harrogate, Brighton, that's just to name a few. I've been to large hotels with the ability to host 5-6000 in a trade show. Why would you hold a conference in Bradford? Everybody moans at the possibility of a new hotel in the City, but without them how do you house the 4,000 people you envisage? Where do your delegates eat? The kebab house opposite Wetherspoons? As for attracting world class acts to a 4,000 seat venue? World class? 4,000 seats? Play in Leeds, Manchester, Sheffield. Why would anybody invest in a venue with other ones so close? The Odeon needs pulling down, that your mum and dad met at the Gaumont dancing to Lonnie Donegan or you once saw Gremlins 2 at the Odeon or because the last time an old building in Bradford was demolished the replacement was not as good is not reason to save a decrepit building. If the wheel and fire had been invented in Bradford the residents would have reckon is new fangled stuff will never catch on.[/p][/quote]I guess with that attitude we may as well all pack up and move to the garden city that is Leeds. I know i'm wasting my time but here goes. If Bradford is to continue to improve then facilities such as Bradford Live should be built, there are plenty of hotels in and around Bradford that would service any conference attendees. They would also cater for any long distance concert goers. This sort of footfall is the life blood of hotels in most major cities, Bradford should not be excluded from such a fruitful cash injection as it's one of the bigger cities in the UK. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see the footfall such a facility would bring to local restaurants and retail outlets a couple of years down the line. It's a no brainer that such a world class city centre facility would be a massive boost to the local economy. What can I say about the proposed swimming pool scheme.........nothi ng!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: 6

12:08pm Sun 2 Mar 14

bcfc1903 says...

SuttonGraeme wrote:
Anybody who has ever been to a modern high class conference venue will know that the Odeon could never be one. Visit the ICC in Birmingham, Harrogate, Brighton, that's just to name a few. I've been to large hotels with the ability to host 5-6000 in a trade show. Why would you hold a conference in Bradford? Everybody moans at the possibility of a new hotel in the City, but without them how do you house the 4,000 people you envisage? Where do your delegates eat? The kebab house opposite Wetherspoons? As for attracting world class acts to a 4,000 seat venue? World class? 4,000 seats? Play in Leeds, Manchester, Sheffield. Why would anybody invest in a venue with other ones so close?

The Odeon needs pulling down, that your mum and dad met at the Gaumont dancing to Lonnie Donegan or you once saw Gremlins 2 at the Odeon or because the last time an old building in Bradford was demolished the replacement was not as good is not reason to save a decrepit building. If the wheel and fire had been invented in Bradford the residents would have reckon is new fangled stuff will never catch on.
I guess with that attitude we may as well all pack up and move to the garden city that is Leeds.

I know i'm wasting my time but here goes. If Bradford is to continue to improve then facilities such as Bradford Live should be built, there are plenty of hotels in and around Bradford that would service any conference attendees. They would also cater for any long distance concert goers. This sort of footfall is the life blood of hotels in most major cities, Bradford should not be excluded from such a fruitful cash injection as it's one of the bigger cities in the UK. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see the footfall such a facility would bring to local restaurants and retail outlets a couple of years down the line. It's a no brainer that such a world class city centre facility would be a massive boost to the local economy. What can I say about the proposed swimming pool scheme.........nothi
ng!!!!
[quote][p][bold]SuttonGraeme[/bold] wrote: Anybody who has ever been to a modern high class conference venue will know that the Odeon could never be one. Visit the ICC in Birmingham, Harrogate, Brighton, that's just to name a few. I've been to large hotels with the ability to host 5-6000 in a trade show. Why would you hold a conference in Bradford? Everybody moans at the possibility of a new hotel in the City, but without them how do you house the 4,000 people you envisage? Where do your delegates eat? The kebab house opposite Wetherspoons? As for attracting world class acts to a 4,000 seat venue? World class? 4,000 seats? Play in Leeds, Manchester, Sheffield. Why would anybody invest in a venue with other ones so close? The Odeon needs pulling down, that your mum and dad met at the Gaumont dancing to Lonnie Donegan or you once saw Gremlins 2 at the Odeon or because the last time an old building in Bradford was demolished the replacement was not as good is not reason to save a decrepit building. If the wheel and fire had been invented in Bradford the residents would have reckon is new fangled stuff will never catch on.[/p][/quote]I guess with that attitude we may as well all pack up and move to the garden city that is Leeds. I know i'm wasting my time but here goes. If Bradford is to continue to improve then facilities such as Bradford Live should be built, there are plenty of hotels in and around Bradford that would service any conference attendees. They would also cater for any long distance concert goers. This sort of footfall is the life blood of hotels in most major cities, Bradford should not be excluded from such a fruitful cash injection as it's one of the bigger cities in the UK. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see the footfall such a facility would bring to local restaurants and retail outlets a couple of years down the line. It's a no brainer that such a world class city centre facility would be a massive boost to the local economy. What can I say about the proposed swimming pool scheme.........nothi ng!!!! bcfc1903
  • Score: 3

8:02pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Moggiemad wrote: My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues? Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.
I'm sure St George's Hall will continue to attract the acts it gets year after year which has an audience in West Yorkshire just like the Alhambra has, obviously the Bradford Live facility would be a step up in quality attracting world class acts to Bradford city centre with the facility having a capacity of around 4,000. The idea of a swimming pool is mind numbingly bad. Surely Shipley baths have just been refurbished, now there's talk of another swimming pool in Bradford, it beggars belief that anyone would want that facility where the Odeon is. Bradford deserves far better and putting a swimming pool in that prime city centre position which would be an absolute joke.
Ok then, what are these world class acts you are on about? Most of any worth their salt are signed up to Clear Channel, they control the bands and in most cases a band touring here can't perform for anyone else three months either side of a tour unless whoever runs it pays through the nose and I'll watch this closely in case the council prop up the extra cash needed to buy in a band just to substantiate giving the place a 4000 capacity venue. You can go to the new Arena in Leeds and get what you want a mere nine miles away.
As far as I'm concerned as a true Bradfordian, this building is a mess and with it showing the red brick it should be somewhere off Burley Road, it is out of character with our Yorkshire stone.
But the council started closing down swimming baths and the ever so vocal Dave Boy Green said he'll give Bradford a city centre swimming pool, work that one out.
Whilst we're on the Yorkshire stone theme, they could have used that from say Bolton Woods quarry or maybe another one that is local but the powers that be decided to spend a fortune on some slate type of thing from China and therefore there was a huge overspend on the pond.
I think all of the bids are wrong. I can see it costing a fortune in the long run and maybe a few more brown paper envelopes will be flying around.
The St Georges they say above has had its day, I say no as if they replace the roof then they have an ideal venue but to do that they would lose some of the ornate work but it would get the place earning again.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Moggiemad[/bold] wrote: My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues? Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.[/p][/quote]I'm sure St George's Hall will continue to attract the acts it gets year after year which has an audience in West Yorkshire just like the Alhambra has, obviously the Bradford Live facility would be a step up in quality attracting world class acts to Bradford city centre with the facility having a capacity of around 4,000. The idea of a swimming pool is mind numbingly bad. Surely Shipley baths have just been refurbished, now there's talk of another swimming pool in Bradford, it beggars belief that anyone would want that facility where the Odeon is. Bradford deserves far better and putting a swimming pool in that prime city centre position which would be an absolute joke.[/p][/quote]Ok then, what are these world class acts you are on about? Most of any worth their salt are signed up to Clear Channel, they control the bands and in most cases a band touring here can't perform for anyone else three months either side of a tour unless whoever runs it pays through the nose and I'll watch this closely in case the council prop up the extra cash needed to buy in a band just to substantiate giving the place a 4000 capacity venue. You can go to the new Arena in Leeds and get what you want a mere nine miles away. As far as I'm concerned as a true Bradfordian, this building is a mess and with it showing the red brick it should be somewhere off Burley Road, it is out of character with our Yorkshire stone. But the council started closing down swimming baths and the ever so vocal Dave Boy Green said he'll give Bradford a city centre swimming pool, work that one out. Whilst we're on the Yorkshire stone theme, they could have used that from say Bolton Woods quarry or maybe another one that is local but the powers that be decided to spend a fortune on some slate type of thing from China and therefore there was a huge overspend on the pond. I think all of the bids are wrong. I can see it costing a fortune in the long run and maybe a few more brown paper envelopes will be flying around. The St Georges they say above has had its day, I say no as if they replace the roof then they have an ideal venue but to do that they would lose some of the ornate work but it would get the place earning again. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: -3

11:19pm Sun 2 Mar 14

bcfc1903 says...

Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Moggiemad wrote: My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues? Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.
I'm sure St George's Hall will continue to attract the acts it gets year after year which has an audience in West Yorkshire just like the Alhambra has, obviously the Bradford Live facility would be a step up in quality attracting world class acts to Bradford city centre with the facility having a capacity of around 4,000. The idea of a swimming pool is mind numbingly bad. Surely Shipley baths have just been refurbished, now there's talk of another swimming pool in Bradford, it beggars belief that anyone would want that facility where the Odeon is. Bradford deserves far better and putting a swimming pool in that prime city centre position which would be an absolute joke.
Ok then, what are these world class acts you are on about? Most of any worth their salt are signed up to Clear Channel, they control the bands and in most cases a band touring here can't perform for anyone else three months either side of a tour unless whoever runs it pays through the nose and I'll watch this closely in case the council prop up the extra cash needed to buy in a band just to substantiate giving the place a 4000 capacity venue. You can go to the new Arena in Leeds and get what you want a mere nine miles away.
As far as I'm concerned as a true Bradfordian, this building is a mess and with it showing the red brick it should be somewhere off Burley Road, it is out of character with our Yorkshire stone.
But the council started closing down swimming baths and the ever so vocal Dave Boy Green said he'll give Bradford a city centre swimming pool, work that one out.
Whilst we're on the Yorkshire stone theme, they could have used that from say Bolton Woods quarry or maybe another one that is local but the powers that be decided to spend a fortune on some slate type of thing from China and therefore there was a huge overspend on the pond.
I think all of the bids are wrong. I can see it costing a fortune in the long run and maybe a few more brown paper envelopes will be flying around.
The St Georges they say above has had its day, I say no as if they replace the roof then they have an ideal venue but to do that they would lose some of the ornate work but it would get the place earning again.
No world class artists and acts were going to Leeds Arena before it was built were they, I'm guessing the same could be said of Bradford Live, maybe they will also hook up with Clear Channel if the info you printed is correct., but I'm sure there will be many world class artists who are with other promoters...hopefull
y Bradford Live does get the nod and the Odeon does become a 4,000 capacity venue. The colour of the bricks is of no consequence, hell we have the tiled monstrosity near the Interchange. I'm a fan of St George's Hall but it can't attract many world class acts due to it's limited capacity. The swimming pool could well be a done deal, if that is the case the whole council process would become a total farce and brought into disrepute as no one in their right mind would have such a facility in such a prime city centre site.
[quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Moggiemad[/bold] wrote: My only concern about it being a concert venue is that can the city support two venues? Working out the correct use of the building is key to linking the other developments and to help regenerate the city centre.[/p][/quote]I'm sure St George's Hall will continue to attract the acts it gets year after year which has an audience in West Yorkshire just like the Alhambra has, obviously the Bradford Live facility would be a step up in quality attracting world class acts to Bradford city centre with the facility having a capacity of around 4,000. The idea of a swimming pool is mind numbingly bad. Surely Shipley baths have just been refurbished, now there's talk of another swimming pool in Bradford, it beggars belief that anyone would want that facility where the Odeon is. Bradford deserves far better and putting a swimming pool in that prime city centre position which would be an absolute joke.[/p][/quote]Ok then, what are these world class acts you are on about? Most of any worth their salt are signed up to Clear Channel, they control the bands and in most cases a band touring here can't perform for anyone else three months either side of a tour unless whoever runs it pays through the nose and I'll watch this closely in case the council prop up the extra cash needed to buy in a band just to substantiate giving the place a 4000 capacity venue. You can go to the new Arena in Leeds and get what you want a mere nine miles away. As far as I'm concerned as a true Bradfordian, this building is a mess and with it showing the red brick it should be somewhere off Burley Road, it is out of character with our Yorkshire stone. But the council started closing down swimming baths and the ever so vocal Dave Boy Green said he'll give Bradford a city centre swimming pool, work that one out. Whilst we're on the Yorkshire stone theme, they could have used that from say Bolton Woods quarry or maybe another one that is local but the powers that be decided to spend a fortune on some slate type of thing from China and therefore there was a huge overspend on the pond. I think all of the bids are wrong. I can see it costing a fortune in the long run and maybe a few more brown paper envelopes will be flying around. The St Georges they say above has had its day, I say no as if they replace the roof then they have an ideal venue but to do that they would lose some of the ornate work but it would get the place earning again.[/p][/quote]No world class artists and acts were going to Leeds Arena before it was built were they, I'm guessing the same could be said of Bradford Live, maybe they will also hook up with Clear Channel if the info you printed is correct., but I'm sure there will be many world class artists who are with other promoters...hopefull y Bradford Live does get the nod and the Odeon does become a 4,000 capacity venue. The colour of the bricks is of no consequence, hell we have the tiled monstrosity near the Interchange. I'm a fan of St George's Hall but it can't attract many world class acts due to it's limited capacity. The swimming pool could well be a done deal, if that is the case the whole council process would become a total farce and brought into disrepute as no one in their right mind would have such a facility in such a prime city centre site. bcfc1903
  • Score: 5

11:40pm Sun 2 Mar 14

alive and awake says...

FGS pull the ugly thing down!
FGS pull the ugly thing down! alive and awake
  • Score: -6

6:53am Mon 3 Mar 14

Joedavid says...

alive and awake wrote:
FGS pull the ugly thing down!
Can't you remember about 1978 I think the Alhambra was a mess on the outside and that too had a knock down proposal, look at it now would you knock it down now?
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: FGS pull the ugly thing down![/p][/quote]Can't you remember about 1978 I think the Alhambra was a mess on the outside and that too had a knock down proposal, look at it now would you knock it down now? Joedavid
  • Score: 3

10:17am Mon 3 Mar 14

Avro says...

Look North are reporting this story as being the cost to remove the remaining asbestos and tidy the interior.
Look North are reporting this story as being the cost to remove the remaining asbestos and tidy the interior. Avro
  • Score: 1

2:19pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

BCFC1903, do you know who Clear Channel are? This of Live Nation and you'll get a better idea seeing as they are the bossmen of that too. They own TV channels, radio stations and are top of the tree in a huge advertising empire and to top it off, they virtually own bands.
Like I said before, they might get bailed out to latch on to a tour by paying a premium price and not making anything. This is the sort of stunt the council would pull to try and justify it being a venue. This means it would come out of tax payers money again.
Christ man, people go on about the Beatles playing there, yes so what, they played the Cavern but the existing building isn't there. They made another just to satisfy the naive tourists thinking they really played there.
Leeds council are light years in front of our sad excuse of one. They started from scratch and built a new arena, not try and tart up some ramshackle old red brick haunt.
It should be the first part of landfill that goes into Odsal stadium. I doubt you will like that seeing as you are also a Bulls lover.
BCFC1903, do you know who Clear Channel are? This of Live Nation and you'll get a better idea seeing as they are the bossmen of that too. They own TV channels, radio stations and are top of the tree in a huge advertising empire and to top it off, they virtually own bands. Like I said before, they might get bailed out to latch on to a tour by paying a premium price and not making anything. This is the sort of stunt the council would pull to try and justify it being a venue. This means it would come out of tax payers money again. Christ man, people go on about the Beatles playing there, yes so what, they played the Cavern but the existing building isn't there. They made another just to satisfy the naive tourists thinking they really played there. Leeds council are light years in front of our sad excuse of one. They started from scratch and built a new arena, not try and tart up some ramshackle old red brick haunt. It should be the first part of landfill that goes into Odsal stadium. I doubt you will like that seeing as you are also a Bulls lover. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: -2

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