Bazaar approval for former boss of illegal market

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Mohammed Saeed, former boss of the illegal Tradex indoor market Mohammed Saeed, former boss of the illegal Tradex indoor market

The former boss of the illegal Tradex indoor market looks set to be granted permission to open a new Asian bazaar on a trial basis.

Mohammed Saeed is expected to be given a six-month temporary market licence for his new venture, at the former QLM building in Idle Road, Bolton, on a smaller-scale level than he had originally planned.

Last year, he was convicted of contravening a Stop Notice issued by Bradford Council against his Tradex business at Beckside Business Park in Beckside Road, Lidget Green, and billed for almost £90,000 in fines and costs at the city’s crown court.

But now the Council is preparing to grant his company, DP Franchising Ltd, permission to trial the new bazaar, despite concerns from residents about the parking problems and disruption it might cause.

A market licence is set to be issued on February 24, meaning the bazaar could be up and running before April.

The licence will then be reviewed in six months’ time, with councillors and highways officers asked for their feedback before it is renewed.

The bazaar plan is a pared-down version of the one originally planned for the building.

Whereas Mr Saeed had first wanted a total of 65 stalls over two floors, the plan is now for 35 stalls on one floor, with a maximum of 28 traders selling goods at any one time.

It will open from 11am to 7pm on Mondays, Tuesdays, Saturdays and Sundays.

A statement from the company setting out its highways plan says a rooftop car park will provide 36 spaces for customers, while traders will have to use 27 spaces behind the building.

A parking steward will be employed to manage the flow of cars to the rooftop and only when the car park is full will customers be directed to on-street parking.

The company statement says: “We have agreed to an initial six-month licence that will enable both us as operator and the council as licensor to regularly review the operation of the bazaar to ensure that it does not have an impact on the local community and alleviate the concerns, many we believe are unfounded.”

But ward Councillor Howard Middleton (Lib Dem, Bolton and Undercliffe) said residents still had concerns about parking.

He said the rooftop car park had always been unpopular when the building was a Morrisons supermarket as the ramp was steep and had a dog-leg bend.

He said: “The Council seems determined to grant it, but it’s not a choice I would agree with.”

Comments (100)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

8:19am Mon 17 Feb 14

Avro says...

So Bradford Council now sanction criminals to go about their business. No wonder this city is in a mess!
So Bradford Council now sanction criminals to go about their business. No wonder this city is in a mess! Avro

8:20am Mon 17 Feb 14

Avro says...

Has the £90k fine been repaid?
Has the £90k fine been repaid? Avro

8:29am Mon 17 Feb 14

SinnerSaint says...

This is going to be a "give an inch, take a mile" situation.
This is going to be a "give an inch, take a mile" situation. SinnerSaint

8:34am Mon 17 Feb 14

Freddy Elliot says...

Bye bye swing gate car park.
Bye bye swing gate car park. Freddy Elliot

8:37am Mon 17 Feb 14

Freddy Elliot says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
This is going to be a "give an inch, take a mile" situation.
Correct. Or maybe they will stick to the conditions. Ha ha.
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: This is going to be a "give an inch, take a mile" situation.[/p][/quote]Correct. Or maybe they will stick to the conditions. Ha ha. Freddy Elliot

8:37am Mon 17 Feb 14

alive and awake says...

Got his own way eh! Bradford Council you are a weak kneed lot.
Go pick on some little old lady who'd dog might have fouled a road, or some poor motorist.
Got his own way eh! Bradford Council you are a weak kneed lot. Go pick on some little old lady who'd dog might have fouled a road, or some poor motorist. alive and awake

8:51am Mon 17 Feb 14

Freddy Elliot says...

In time the zigzags at the zebra crossing will be for bazaar traders and customers parking.
In time the zigzags at the zebra crossing will be for bazaar traders and customers parking. Freddy Elliot

9:02am Mon 17 Feb 14

eccythump says...

Well didn't we just see this coming ? This man has traded illegally before, he has lied time and again about plans regarding this scheme at Bolton junction. Yet it is ultimately given the go ahead by Bradford council. Why? Friends in high places and of course the fact it is an 'Asian' bazaar'. Mark my words when I say this will cause chaos in the area.
Well didn't we just see this coming ? This man has traded illegally before, he has lied time and again about plans regarding this scheme at Bolton junction. Yet it is ultimately given the go ahead by Bradford council. Why? Friends in high places and of course the fact it is an 'Asian' bazaar'. Mark my words when I say this will cause chaos in the area. eccythump

9:16am Mon 17 Feb 14

Freddy Elliot says...

eccythump wrote:
Well didn't we just see this coming ? This man has traded illegally before, he has lied time and again about plans regarding this scheme at Bolton junction. Yet it is ultimately given the go ahead by Bradford council. Why? Friends in high places and of course the fact it is an 'Asian' bazaar'. Mark my words when I say this will cause chaos in the area.
Here come the for sale signs.
[quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: Well didn't we just see this coming ? This man has traded illegally before, he has lied time and again about plans regarding this scheme at Bolton junction. Yet it is ultimately given the go ahead by Bradford council. Why? Friends in high places and of course the fact it is an 'Asian' bazaar'. Mark my words when I say this will cause chaos in the area.[/p][/quote]Here come the for sale signs. Freddy Elliot

9:25am Mon 17 Feb 14

realitystrikesagain says...

What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are.

This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car.

Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model.

Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)
What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are. This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car. Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model. Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life) realitystrikesagain

9:28am Mon 17 Feb 14

StevieLad says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are.

This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car.

Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model.

Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)
What's wrong with dog walking you muppet?
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are. This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car. Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model. Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)[/p][/quote]What's wrong with dog walking you muppet? StevieLad

9:38am Mon 17 Feb 14

realitystrikesagain says...

StevieLad wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are.

This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car.

Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model.

Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)
What's wrong with dog walking you muppet?
Nothing wrong with dog walking as a necessary and essential part of a 'life'

Everything wrong with it if it's part of a routine that involves a walk to the dole queue followed by a walk to the bookies followed by a walk to the post office, followed by a walk to the pawn shop, followed by a walk to the local, followed by a walk to the park to stand about and ending with a walk home in the evening having avoided all the debt collectors for another day. Same again tomorrow then. The dog walkers I'm talking about know who I mean. As for the other dog walkers. That's all fine.
[quote][p][bold]StevieLad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are. This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car. Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model. Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)[/p][/quote]What's wrong with dog walking you muppet?[/p][/quote]Nothing wrong with dog walking as a necessary and essential part of a 'life' Everything wrong with it if it's part of a routine that involves a walk to the dole queue followed by a walk to the bookies followed by a walk to the post office, followed by a walk to the pawn shop, followed by a walk to the local, followed by a walk to the park to stand about and ending with a walk home in the evening having avoided all the debt collectors for another day. Same again tomorrow then. The dog walkers I'm talking about know who I mean. As for the other dog walkers. That's all fine. realitystrikesagain

9:41am Mon 17 Feb 14

Bone_idle18 says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are.

This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car.

Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model.

Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)
someone got a bit of a chip on their shoulder eh?
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are. This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car. Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model. Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)[/p][/quote]someone got a bit of a chip on their shoulder eh? Bone_idle18

9:45am Mon 17 Feb 14

Freddy Elliot says...

Piont being just watch the area go down the pan once the take over starts. Idle road twinned with lumb lane.
Piont being just watch the area go down the pan once the take over starts. Idle road twinned with lumb lane. Freddy Elliot

9:52am Mon 17 Feb 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down.
Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum.
Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.
Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down. Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum. Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback. Thee Voice of Reason

9:54am Mon 17 Feb 14

pcmanners says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are.

This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car.

Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model.

Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)
No, you're missing the point.

Nobody is objecting to enterprise and ambition, Bradford could do with a lot more of it. The concerns are being raised because this man deliberately flaunted the rules in order to make money for himself. In any other city he would have been banned from running a market.
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are. This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car. Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model. Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)[/p][/quote]No, you're missing the point. Nobody is objecting to enterprise and ambition, Bradford could do with a lot more of it. The concerns are being raised because this man deliberately flaunted the rules in order to make money for himself. In any other city he would have been banned from running a market. pcmanners

9:55am Mon 17 Feb 14

realitystrikesagain says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are.

This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car.

Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model.

Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)
someone got a bit of a chip on their shoulder eh?
If that's what you want to call it then 'chip' it is. A well paid for 'chip' I'll have you know.

You can get a 'chip' too, or maybe not. I don't think they're available on finance
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are. This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car. Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model. Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)[/p][/quote]someone got a bit of a chip on their shoulder eh?[/p][/quote]If that's what you want to call it then 'chip' it is. A well paid for 'chip' I'll have you know. You can get a 'chip' too, or maybe not. I don't think they're available on finance realitystrikesagain

9:57am Mon 17 Feb 14

realitystrikesagain says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down.
Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum.
Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.
Defence is spelt defence. Not defense. Someone been skipping school??
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down. Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum. Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.[/p][/quote]Defence is spelt defence. Not defense. Someone been skipping school?? realitystrikesagain

10:06am Mon 17 Feb 14

realitystrikesagain says...

pcmanners wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are.

This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car.

Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model.

Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)
No, you're missing the point.

Nobody is objecting to enterprise and ambition, Bradford could do with a lot more of it. The concerns are being raised because this man deliberately flaunted the rules in order to make money for himself. In any other city he would have been banned from running a market.
Yes he did. He was ordered to pay a penalty. Also banned from operating a market in that particular location.

A little like drinking and fighting in one pub. Banned from that pub. Not banned from drinking

This democracy we lives in affords us the right to go forward and prosper legally. This particular bazaar is legal. He has the legal right to operate it. You have no argument

You have an opinion, but then opinions don't constitute law. Good luck to him
[quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are. This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car. Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model. Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)[/p][/quote]No, you're missing the point. Nobody is objecting to enterprise and ambition, Bradford could do with a lot more of it. The concerns are being raised because this man deliberately flaunted the rules in order to make money for himself. In any other city he would have been banned from running a market.[/p][/quote]Yes he did. He was ordered to pay a penalty. Also banned from operating a market in that particular location. A little like drinking and fighting in one pub. Banned from that pub. Not banned from drinking This democracy we lives in affords us the right to go forward and prosper legally. This particular bazaar is legal. He has the legal right to operate it. You have no argument You have an opinion, but then opinions don't constitute law. Good luck to him realitystrikesagain

10:23am Mon 17 Feb 14

Avro says...

And has he actually paid the £90k penalty??

Considering that he now has a crminal record for flouting trading laws, he should have also been barred from making further applications for at least 10 years!
And has he actually paid the £90k penalty?? Considering that he now has a crminal record for flouting trading laws, he should have also been barred from making further applications for at least 10 years! Avro

10:27am Mon 17 Feb 14

Freddy Elliot says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down.
Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum.
Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.
Defence is spelt defence. Not defense. Someone been skipping school??
This is an internet forum not an English exam you retard.
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down. Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum. Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.[/p][/quote]Defence is spelt defence. Not defense. Someone been skipping school??[/p][/quote]This is an internet forum not an English exam you retard. Freddy Elliot

10:41am Mon 17 Feb 14

realitystrikesagain says...

Freddy Elliot wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down.
Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum.
Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.
Defence is spelt defence. Not defense. Someone been skipping school??
This is an internet forum not an English exam you retard.
Dear me. I see the native English speakers are immensely upset at their inability to grasp even the basics of a once proudly spoken and written language. Whilst I accept that standards have slipped in schools in recent years, it astounds me that as opposed to accepting constructive feedback and correcting mistakes, the likes of yourself have responded in the one way you feel at ease and comfort with. Name calling. It's what 6 year olds do. Then they get told off. So, behave yourself and watch that language and wash that tongue with soap otherwise you'll be going without Jeremy Kyle for 2 days. Naughty!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Freddy Elliot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down. Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum. Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.[/p][/quote]Defence is spelt defence. Not defense. Someone been skipping school??[/p][/quote]This is an internet forum not an English exam you retard.[/p][/quote]Dear me. I see the native English speakers are immensely upset at their inability to grasp even the basics of a once proudly spoken and written language. Whilst I accept that standards have slipped in schools in recent years, it astounds me that as opposed to accepting constructive feedback and correcting mistakes, the likes of yourself have responded in the one way you feel at ease and comfort with. Name calling. It's what 6 year olds do. Then they get told off. So, behave yourself and watch that language and wash that tongue with soap otherwise you'll be going without Jeremy Kyle for 2 days. Naughty!!!!! realitystrikesagain

10:48am Mon 17 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

I have a friend who lives opposite the QLM building who has been trying to sell their house for the past year. They recently had a buyer until the buyer found out about this proposed bazaar.

Now it looks like they will never sell as the scum move up from Ashbourne
I have a friend who lives opposite the QLM building who has been trying to sell their house for the past year. They recently had a buyer until the buyer found out about this proposed bazaar. Now it looks like they will never sell as the scum move up from Ashbourne Andy2010

10:56am Mon 17 Feb 14

Albion. says...

This is yet another example of the caving in mentality of Bradford Council. While it is obvious that Bradford is gradually going through a transformation into an Asian city and Bazaars are very much it's future, there should still be a bit of backbone used against those who have a history of dishonesty (whatever their background or origin might be).
This is yet another example of the caving in mentality of Bradford Council. While it is obvious that Bradford is gradually going through a transformation into an Asian city and Bazaars are very much it's future, there should still be a bit of backbone used against those who have a history of dishonesty (whatever their background or origin might be). Albion.

10:58am Mon 17 Feb 14

Farsley Bantam says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote: What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are. This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car. Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model. Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)
No, you're missing the point. Nobody is objecting to enterprise and ambition, Bradford could do with a lot more of it. The concerns are being raised because this man deliberately flaunted the rules in order to make money for himself. In any other city he would have been banned from running a market.
Yes he did. He was ordered to pay a penalty. Also banned from operating a market in that particular location. A little like drinking and fighting in one pub. Banned from that pub. Not banned from drinking This democracy we lives in affords us the right to go forward and prosper legally. This particular bazaar is legal. He has the legal right to operate it. You have no argument You have an opinion, but then opinions don't constitute law. Good luck to him
Your analogy does not work as you don't need a licence to enter a pub. A better example would be entering a members only club without a membership card and causing trouble, having a fight and refusing to leave. Then applying for membership at a different club (same owners) round the corner. They would, quite rightly, tell you to do one. Unfortunately Bradford Council have again shown their ineptitude in awarding this man a licence.
And before you say I'm jealous or anti-enterprise I am not. If you set up a business then you need to play by the rules like everyone else. This man has shown a complete disregard for the rule of law and is clearly not a fit and proper person to run this site.
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are. This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car. Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model. Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)[/p][/quote]No, you're missing the point. Nobody is objecting to enterprise and ambition, Bradford could do with a lot more of it. The concerns are being raised because this man deliberately flaunted the rules in order to make money for himself. In any other city he would have been banned from running a market.[/p][/quote]Yes he did. He was ordered to pay a penalty. Also banned from operating a market in that particular location. A little like drinking and fighting in one pub. Banned from that pub. Not banned from drinking This democracy we lives in affords us the right to go forward and prosper legally. This particular bazaar is legal. He has the legal right to operate it. You have no argument You have an opinion, but then opinions don't constitute law. Good luck to him[/p][/quote]Your analogy does not work as you don't need a licence to enter a pub. A better example would be entering a members only club without a membership card and causing trouble, having a fight and refusing to leave. Then applying for membership at a different club (same owners) round the corner. They would, quite rightly, tell you to do one. Unfortunately Bradford Council have again shown their ineptitude in awarding this man a licence. And before you say I'm jealous or anti-enterprise I am not. If you set up a business then you need to play by the rules like everyone else. This man has shown a complete disregard for the rule of law and is clearly not a fit and proper person to run this site. Farsley Bantam

11:05am Mon 17 Feb 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
Freddy Elliot wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down.
Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum.
Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.
Defence is spelt defence. Not defense. Someone been skipping school??
This is an internet forum not an English exam you retard.
Dear me. I see the native English speakers are immensely upset at their inability to grasp even the basics of a once proudly spoken and written language. Whilst I accept that standards have slipped in schools in recent years, it astounds me that as opposed to accepting constructive feedback and correcting mistakes, the likes of yourself have responded in the one way you feel at ease and comfort with. Name calling. It's what 6 year olds do. Then they get told off. So, behave yourself and watch that language and wash that tongue with soap otherwise you'll be going without Jeremy Kyle for 2 days. Naughty!!!!!
My auto correct appears to be set to American English by default. Not that it matters the point still stands. Bring up race in an attempt to get the thread closed.
No acknowledgement that this man lied several times in his application and traded under a stop notice previously making him far from trustworthy.
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freddy Elliot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down. Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum. Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.[/p][/quote]Defence is spelt defence. Not defense. Someone been skipping school??[/p][/quote]This is an internet forum not an English exam you retard.[/p][/quote]Dear me. I see the native English speakers are immensely upset at their inability to grasp even the basics of a once proudly spoken and written language. Whilst I accept that standards have slipped in schools in recent years, it astounds me that as opposed to accepting constructive feedback and correcting mistakes, the likes of yourself have responded in the one way you feel at ease and comfort with. Name calling. It's what 6 year olds do. Then they get told off. So, behave yourself and watch that language and wash that tongue with soap otherwise you'll be going without Jeremy Kyle for 2 days. Naughty!!!!![/p][/quote]My auto correct appears to be set to American English by default. Not that it matters the point still stands. Bring up race in an attempt to get the thread closed. No acknowledgement that this man lied several times in his application and traded under a stop notice previously making him far from trustworthy. Thee Voice of Reason

12:28pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Why do people with no argument resort to name calling, petty insults and pointing out spelling and grammar?
Why do people with no argument resort to name calling, petty insults and pointing out spelling and grammar? Bone_idle18

12:35pm Mon 17 Feb 14

gracie field says...

Have the workers at Bradford council followed the laws and regulations correctly? Have the decision makers at Bradford council been investigated in the way they have dealt with this criminal? This should be an open and transparent case for all to see. I personally think those at Bradford council have probably been coerced or involved with giving this criminal a licence at all.

We don't want him or his business in our area and that means all of the home-owners by the way before anyone tries to pretend I meant anything different.

Bradford council need to publish its reasons and its regulations regarding this market because this doesn't sit right at all and we as tax payers deserve to be treated within the law after all it is he who is the criminal not us the local people.
Have the workers at Bradford council followed the laws and regulations correctly? Have the decision makers at Bradford council been investigated in the way they have dealt with this criminal? This should be an open and transparent case for all to see. I personally think those at Bradford council have probably been coerced or involved with giving this criminal a licence at all. We don't want him or his business in our area and that means all of the home-owners by the way before anyone tries to pretend I meant anything different. Bradford council need to publish its reasons and its regulations regarding this market because this doesn't sit right at all and we as tax payers deserve to be treated within the law after all it is he who is the criminal not us the local people. gracie field

12:40pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

gracie field wrote:
Have the workers at Bradford council followed the laws and regulations correctly? Have the decision makers at Bradford council been investigated in the way they have dealt with this criminal? This should be an open and transparent case for all to see. I personally think those at Bradford council have probably been coerced or involved with giving this criminal a licence at all.

We don't want him or his business in our area and that means all of the home-owners by the way before anyone tries to pretend I meant anything different.

Bradford council need to publish its reasons and its regulations regarding this market because this doesn't sit right at all and we as tax payers deserve to be treated within the law after all it is he who is the criminal not us the local people.
Start a protest as soon as it opens.

Doesnt do any harm and your perfectly within your rights. At least will keep the issue of whether the council were right to grant permission in the news as the T&A will attend. Also take photo's of any illegally parked vehicles and submit these to the council
[quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: Have the workers at Bradford council followed the laws and regulations correctly? Have the decision makers at Bradford council been investigated in the way they have dealt with this criminal? This should be an open and transparent case for all to see. I personally think those at Bradford council have probably been coerced or involved with giving this criminal a licence at all. We don't want him or his business in our area and that means all of the home-owners by the way before anyone tries to pretend I meant anything different. Bradford council need to publish its reasons and its regulations regarding this market because this doesn't sit right at all and we as tax payers deserve to be treated within the law after all it is he who is the criminal not us the local people.[/p][/quote]Start a protest as soon as it opens. Doesnt do any harm and your perfectly within your rights. At least will keep the issue of whether the council were right to grant permission in the news as the T&A will attend. Also take photo's of any illegally parked vehicles and submit these to the council Andy2010

12:49pm Mon 17 Feb 14

gracie field says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
Freddy Elliot wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down.
Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum.
Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.
Defence is spelt defence. Not defense. Someone been skipping school??
This is an internet forum not an English exam you retard.
Dear me. I see the native English speakers are immensely upset at their inability to grasp even the basics of a once proudly spoken and written language. Whilst I accept that standards have slipped in schools in recent years, it astounds me that as opposed to accepting constructive feedback and correcting mistakes, the likes of yourself have responded in the one way you feel at ease and comfort with. Name calling. It's what 6 year olds do. Then they get told off. So, behave yourself and watch that language and wash that tongue with soap otherwise you'll be going without Jeremy Kyle for 2 days. Naughty!!!!!
What a racist bigot you are. How dare you insult people who oppose a criminal being allowed to run riot over their lives and investments? Don't they as tax payers deserve a say in what goes on in their area?

He isn't a decent person making good with his life he is very well known persistent liar and criminal and for that we people oppose him causing our area to turn into a wild backwards market place like the others of this type are.

Also the roof parking on that building was declared unsafe in the past so how has that changed? If not why is this man allowed to put customers and stall renters lives at risk?

The opposition top this enterprise should all club together and get legal advice or even find a solicitor willing to do some work pro bono for you all because I can't believe that this is all above board.
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freddy Elliot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down. Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum. Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.[/p][/quote]Defence is spelt defence. Not defense. Someone been skipping school??[/p][/quote]This is an internet forum not an English exam you retard.[/p][/quote]Dear me. I see the native English speakers are immensely upset at their inability to grasp even the basics of a once proudly spoken and written language. Whilst I accept that standards have slipped in schools in recent years, it astounds me that as opposed to accepting constructive feedback and correcting mistakes, the likes of yourself have responded in the one way you feel at ease and comfort with. Name calling. It's what 6 year olds do. Then they get told off. So, behave yourself and watch that language and wash that tongue with soap otherwise you'll be going without Jeremy Kyle for 2 days. Naughty!!!!![/p][/quote]What a racist bigot you are. How dare you insult people who oppose a criminal being allowed to run riot over their lives and investments? Don't they as tax payers deserve a say in what goes on in their area? He isn't a decent person making good with his life he is very well known persistent liar and criminal and for that we people oppose him causing our area to turn into a wild backwards market place like the others of this type are. Also the roof parking on that building was declared unsafe in the past so how has that changed? If not why is this man allowed to put customers and stall renters lives at risk? The opposition top this enterprise should all club together and get legal advice or even find a solicitor willing to do some work pro bono for you all because I can't believe that this is all above board. gracie field

12:57pm Mon 17 Feb 14

realitystrikesagain says...

gracie field wrote:
Have the workers at Bradford council followed the laws and regulations correctly? Have the decision makers at Bradford council been investigated in the way they have dealt with this criminal? This should be an open and transparent case for all to see. I personally think those at Bradford council have probably been coerced or involved with giving this criminal a licence at all.

We don't want him or his business in our area and that means all of the home-owners by the way before anyone tries to pretend I meant anything different.

Bradford council need to publish its reasons and its regulations regarding this market because this doesn't sit right at all and we as tax payers deserve to be treated within the law after all it is he who is the criminal not us the local people.
Sell up and leave. If you don't like change and progression, leave.

If the answer to that is that you can't sell as nobody will buy then I suggest you adjust your asking prices to reflect the market. This area as you now claim is run down must be compared with prices in other run down areas. At a reasonably educated guess I would suggest £50 thousand for a typical mid terrace and £75 thousand for a typical 2/3 bed semi. Any takers? I thought not! Oh well, you can't have it all your own way. It's a multicultural city. That means a multitude of varying cultures are a part of the city. They are free in law to go where they please and free in law to practice business where ever in this city they wish.

Remember, he paid to purchase this site. He didn't borrow from any of you. Any of you have no right to dictate. However if any of you are able and willing to put up, do so. Buy the place from him at a price he can't refuse and build anything you like within planning laws. Just like this man has done
[quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: Have the workers at Bradford council followed the laws and regulations correctly? Have the decision makers at Bradford council been investigated in the way they have dealt with this criminal? This should be an open and transparent case for all to see. I personally think those at Bradford council have probably been coerced or involved with giving this criminal a licence at all. We don't want him or his business in our area and that means all of the home-owners by the way before anyone tries to pretend I meant anything different. Bradford council need to publish its reasons and its regulations regarding this market because this doesn't sit right at all and we as tax payers deserve to be treated within the law after all it is he who is the criminal not us the local people.[/p][/quote]Sell up and leave. If you don't like change and progression, leave. If the answer to that is that you can't sell as nobody will buy then I suggest you adjust your asking prices to reflect the market. This area as you now claim is run down must be compared with prices in other run down areas. At a reasonably educated guess I would suggest £50 thousand for a typical mid terrace and £75 thousand for a typical 2/3 bed semi. Any takers? I thought not! Oh well, you can't have it all your own way. It's a multicultural city. That means a multitude of varying cultures are a part of the city. They are free in law to go where they please and free in law to practice business where ever in this city they wish. Remember, he paid to purchase this site. He didn't borrow from any of you. Any of you have no right to dictate. However if any of you are able and willing to put up, do so. Buy the place from him at a price he can't refuse and build anything you like within planning laws. Just like this man has done realitystrikesagain

12:57pm Mon 17 Feb 14

realitystrikesagain says...

gracie field wrote:
Have the workers at Bradford council followed the laws and regulations correctly? Have the decision makers at Bradford council been investigated in the way they have dealt with this criminal? This should be an open and transparent case for all to see. I personally think those at Bradford council have probably been coerced or involved with giving this criminal a licence at all.

We don't want him or his business in our area and that means all of the home-owners by the way before anyone tries to pretend I meant anything different.

Bradford council need to publish its reasons and its regulations regarding this market because this doesn't sit right at all and we as tax payers deserve to be treated within the law after all it is he who is the criminal not us the local people.
Sell up and leave. If you don't like change and progression, leave.

If the answer to that is that you can't sell as nobody will buy then I suggest you adjust your asking prices to reflect the market. This area as you now claim is run down must be compared with prices in other run down areas. At a reasonably educated guess I would suggest £50 thousand for a typical mid terrace and £75 thousand for a typical 2/3 bed semi. Any takers? I thought not! Oh well, you can't have it all your own way. It's a multicultural city. That means a multitude of varying cultures are a part of the city. They are free in law to go where they please and free in law to practice business where ever in this city they wish.

Remember, he paid to purchase this site. He didn't borrow from any of you. Any of you have no right to dictate. However if any of you are able and willing to put up, do so. Buy the place from him at a price he can't refuse and build anything you like within planning laws. Just like this man has done
[quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: Have the workers at Bradford council followed the laws and regulations correctly? Have the decision makers at Bradford council been investigated in the way they have dealt with this criminal? This should be an open and transparent case for all to see. I personally think those at Bradford council have probably been coerced or involved with giving this criminal a licence at all. We don't want him or his business in our area and that means all of the home-owners by the way before anyone tries to pretend I meant anything different. Bradford council need to publish its reasons and its regulations regarding this market because this doesn't sit right at all and we as tax payers deserve to be treated within the law after all it is he who is the criminal not us the local people.[/p][/quote]Sell up and leave. If you don't like change and progression, leave. If the answer to that is that you can't sell as nobody will buy then I suggest you adjust your asking prices to reflect the market. This area as you now claim is run down must be compared with prices in other run down areas. At a reasonably educated guess I would suggest £50 thousand for a typical mid terrace and £75 thousand for a typical 2/3 bed semi. Any takers? I thought not! Oh well, you can't have it all your own way. It's a multicultural city. That means a multitude of varying cultures are a part of the city. They are free in law to go where they please and free in law to practice business where ever in this city they wish. Remember, he paid to purchase this site. He didn't borrow from any of you. Any of you have no right to dictate. However if any of you are able and willing to put up, do so. Buy the place from him at a price he can't refuse and build anything you like within planning laws. Just like this man has done realitystrikesagain

1:10pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it

https://www.writetot
hem.com/write?pc=bd2
2ah&who=46697&fyr_ex
tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww
w.theyworkforyou.com
%2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi
d_ward%2Fbradford_ea
st
I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st Andy2010

1:17pm Mon 17 Feb 14

SinnerSaint says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
Have the workers at Bradford council followed the laws and regulations correctly? Have the decision makers at Bradford council been investigated in the way they have dealt with this criminal? This should be an open and transparent case for all to see. I personally think those at Bradford council have probably been coerced or involved with giving this criminal a licence at all.

We don't want him or his business in our area and that means all of the home-owners by the way before anyone tries to pretend I meant anything different.

Bradford council need to publish its reasons and its regulations regarding this market because this doesn't sit right at all and we as tax payers deserve to be treated within the law after all it is he who is the criminal not us the local people.
Sell up and leave. If you don't like change and progression, leave.

If the answer to that is that you can't sell as nobody will buy then I suggest you adjust your asking prices to reflect the market. This area as you now claim is run down must be compared with prices in other run down areas. At a reasonably educated guess I would suggest £50 thousand for a typical mid terrace and £75 thousand for a typical 2/3 bed semi. Any takers? I thought not! Oh well, you can't have it all your own way. It's a multicultural city. That means a multitude of varying cultures are a part of the city. They are free in law to go where they please and free in law to practice business where ever in this city they wish.

Remember, he paid to purchase this site. He didn't borrow from any of you. Any of you have no right to dictate. However if any of you are able and willing to put up, do so. Buy the place from him at a price he can't refuse and build anything you like within planning laws. Just like this man has done
Progression? LOL!!!
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: Have the workers at Bradford council followed the laws and regulations correctly? Have the decision makers at Bradford council been investigated in the way they have dealt with this criminal? This should be an open and transparent case for all to see. I personally think those at Bradford council have probably been coerced or involved with giving this criminal a licence at all. We don't want him or his business in our area and that means all of the home-owners by the way before anyone tries to pretend I meant anything different. Bradford council need to publish its reasons and its regulations regarding this market because this doesn't sit right at all and we as tax payers deserve to be treated within the law after all it is he who is the criminal not us the local people.[/p][/quote]Sell up and leave. If you don't like change and progression, leave. If the answer to that is that you can't sell as nobody will buy then I suggest you adjust your asking prices to reflect the market. This area as you now claim is run down must be compared with prices in other run down areas. At a reasonably educated guess I would suggest £50 thousand for a typical mid terrace and £75 thousand for a typical 2/3 bed semi. Any takers? I thought not! Oh well, you can't have it all your own way. It's a multicultural city. That means a multitude of varying cultures are a part of the city. They are free in law to go where they please and free in law to practice business where ever in this city they wish. Remember, he paid to purchase this site. He didn't borrow from any of you. Any of you have no right to dictate. However if any of you are able and willing to put up, do so. Buy the place from him at a price he can't refuse and build anything you like within planning laws. Just like this man has done[/p][/quote]Progression? LOL!!! SinnerSaint

1:20pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

SinnerSaint wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
Have the workers at Bradford council followed the laws and regulations correctly? Have the decision makers at Bradford council been investigated in the way they have dealt with this criminal? This should be an open and transparent case for all to see. I personally think those at Bradford council have probably been coerced or involved with giving this criminal a licence at all.

We don't want him or his business in our area and that means all of the home-owners by the way before anyone tries to pretend I meant anything different.

Bradford council need to publish its reasons and its regulations regarding this market because this doesn't sit right at all and we as tax payers deserve to be treated within the law after all it is he who is the criminal not us the local people.
Sell up and leave. If you don't like change and progression, leave.

If the answer to that is that you can't sell as nobody will buy then I suggest you adjust your asking prices to reflect the market. This area as you now claim is run down must be compared with prices in other run down areas. At a reasonably educated guess I would suggest £50 thousand for a typical mid terrace and £75 thousand for a typical 2/3 bed semi. Any takers? I thought not! Oh well, you can't have it all your own way. It's a multicultural city. That means a multitude of varying cultures are a part of the city. They are free in law to go where they please and free in law to practice business where ever in this city they wish.

Remember, he paid to purchase this site. He didn't borrow from any of you. Any of you have no right to dictate. However if any of you are able and willing to put up, do so. Buy the place from him at a price he can't refuse and build anything you like within planning laws. Just like this man has done
Progression? LOL!!!
In middle eastern terms...yes progression....like allowing women to drive etc
[quote][p][bold]SinnerSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: Have the workers at Bradford council followed the laws and regulations correctly? Have the decision makers at Bradford council been investigated in the way they have dealt with this criminal? This should be an open and transparent case for all to see. I personally think those at Bradford council have probably been coerced or involved with giving this criminal a licence at all. We don't want him or his business in our area and that means all of the home-owners by the way before anyone tries to pretend I meant anything different. Bradford council need to publish its reasons and its regulations regarding this market because this doesn't sit right at all and we as tax payers deserve to be treated within the law after all it is he who is the criminal not us the local people.[/p][/quote]Sell up and leave. If you don't like change and progression, leave. If the answer to that is that you can't sell as nobody will buy then I suggest you adjust your asking prices to reflect the market. This area as you now claim is run down must be compared with prices in other run down areas. At a reasonably educated guess I would suggest £50 thousand for a typical mid terrace and £75 thousand for a typical 2/3 bed semi. Any takers? I thought not! Oh well, you can't have it all your own way. It's a multicultural city. That means a multitude of varying cultures are a part of the city. They are free in law to go where they please and free in law to practice business where ever in this city they wish. Remember, he paid to purchase this site. He didn't borrow from any of you. Any of you have no right to dictate. However if any of you are able and willing to put up, do so. Buy the place from him at a price he can't refuse and build anything you like within planning laws. Just like this man has done[/p][/quote]Progression? LOL!!![/p][/quote]In middle eastern terms...yes progression....like allowing women to drive etc Andy2010

1:25pm Mon 17 Feb 14

RED65 says...

Has he been given a 6 month trial has he got to meet certain standards like litter on the immediate area kept to a minimal,not parking on path's blocking driveways.not displaying goods on public path's.if there is problems surely he wont get a permanent stay.
Has he been given a 6 month trial has he got to meet certain standards like litter on the immediate area kept to a minimal,not parking on path's blocking driveways.not displaying goods on public path's.if there is problems surely he wont get a permanent stay. RED65

1:32pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Albion. says...

http://www.thetelegr
aphandargus.co.uk/se
arch/?search=Mohamme
d+Saeed&submit=Searc
h
http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/se arch/?search=Mohamme d+Saeed&submit=Searc h Albion.

1:33pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

RED65 wrote:
Has he been given a 6 month trial has he got to meet certain standards like litter on the immediate area kept to a minimal,not parking on path's blocking driveways.not displaying goods on public path's.if there is problems surely he wont get a permanent stay.
He knows that once he gets the place open, even if he doesn't gain an extention to his licence it will take years in the courts like it did with Tradex to close him down.
The give an inch take a mile post was spot on.
[quote][p][bold]RED65[/bold] wrote: Has he been given a 6 month trial has he got to meet certain standards like litter on the immediate area kept to a minimal,not parking on path's blocking driveways.not displaying goods on public path's.if there is problems surely he wont get a permanent stay.[/p][/quote]He knows that once he gets the place open, even if he doesn't gain an extention to his licence it will take years in the courts like it did with Tradex to close him down. The give an inch take a mile post was spot on. Thee Voice of Reason

1:42pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Johsay says...

Wow.

Sadly unsurprised though.
Wow. Sadly unsurprised though. Johsay

2:28pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Avro says...

gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Freddy Elliot wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down.
Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum.
Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.
Defence is spelt defence. Not defense. Someone been skipping school??
This is an internet forum not an English exam you retard.
Dear me. I see the native English speakers are immensely upset at their inability to grasp even the basics of a once proudly spoken and written language. Whilst I accept that standards have slipped in schools in recent years, it astounds me that as opposed to accepting constructive feedback and correcting mistakes, the likes of yourself have responded in the one way you feel at ease and comfort with. Name calling. It's what 6 year olds do. Then they get told off. So, behave yourself and watch that language and wash that tongue with soap otherwise you'll be going without Jeremy Kyle for 2 days. Naughty!!!!!
What a racist bigot you are. How dare you insult people who oppose a criminal being allowed to run riot over their lives and investments? Don't they as tax payers deserve a say in what goes on in their area?

He isn't a decent person making good with his life he is very well known persistent liar and criminal and for that we people oppose him causing our area to turn into a wild backwards market place like the others of this type are.

Also the roof parking on that building was declared unsafe in the past so how has that changed? If not why is this man allowed to put customers and stall renters lives at risk?

The opposition top this enterprise should all club together and get legal advice or even find a solicitor willing to do some work pro bono for you all because I can't believe that this is all above board.
Very well said!
[quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freddy Elliot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down. Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum. Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.[/p][/quote]Defence is spelt defence. Not defense. Someone been skipping school??[/p][/quote]This is an internet forum not an English exam you retard.[/p][/quote]Dear me. I see the native English speakers are immensely upset at their inability to grasp even the basics of a once proudly spoken and written language. Whilst I accept that standards have slipped in schools in recent years, it astounds me that as opposed to accepting constructive feedback and correcting mistakes, the likes of yourself have responded in the one way you feel at ease and comfort with. Name calling. It's what 6 year olds do. Then they get told off. So, behave yourself and watch that language and wash that tongue with soap otherwise you'll be going without Jeremy Kyle for 2 days. Naughty!!!!![/p][/quote]What a racist bigot you are. How dare you insult people who oppose a criminal being allowed to run riot over their lives and investments? Don't they as tax payers deserve a say in what goes on in their area? He isn't a decent person making good with his life he is very well known persistent liar and criminal and for that we people oppose him causing our area to turn into a wild backwards market place like the others of this type are. Also the roof parking on that building was declared unsafe in the past so how has that changed? If not why is this man allowed to put customers and stall renters lives at risk? The opposition top this enterprise should all club together and get legal advice or even find a solicitor willing to do some work pro bono for you all because I can't believe that this is all above board.[/p][/quote]Very well said! Avro

2:48pm Mon 17 Feb 14

realitystrikesagain says...

Andy2010 wrote:
I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it

https://www.writetot

hem.com/write?pc=bd2

2ah&who=46697&am
p;fyr_ex
tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww

w.theyworkforyou.com

%2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi

d_ward%2Fbradford_ea

st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories

1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense

2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot.

Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar. realitystrikesagain

3:04pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Joe_Bd2 says...

I live literally opposite, the parking is bad enough mid week even more so on Saturdays. I find it disgusting how the council have the audacity to allow this to go ahead after turning them down at one point. The owner also lied about parking spaces, assumed that they'd be 'okay' to just use the Swing Gate car park for their own benefit. Finally the owner has already ran an Illegal Market, and fined...Which he's probably not paid a penny of. Bradford Council you are an absolute shambles.
I live literally opposite, the parking is bad enough mid week even more so on Saturdays. I find it disgusting how the council have the audacity to allow this to go ahead after turning them down at one point. The owner also lied about parking spaces, assumed that they'd be 'okay' to just use the Swing Gate car park for their own benefit. Finally the owner has already ran an Illegal Market, and fined...Which he's probably not paid a penny of. Bradford Council you are an absolute shambles. Joe_Bd2

3:25pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Apollo says...

Has he paid fines and costs from last time?

It's an absolute disgrace this man is allowed within the city limits again after the way he sh!t all over the rest of us the last time he traded here.
Has he paid fines and costs from last time? It's an absolute disgrace this man is allowed within the city limits again after the way he sh!t all over the rest of us the last time he traded here. Apollo

4:24pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Avro says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it

https://www.writetot


hem.com/write?pc=bd2


2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;fyr_ex
tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww


w.theyworkforyou.com


%2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi


d_ward%2Fbradford_ea


st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories

1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense

2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot.

Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam. Avro

4:35pm Mon 17 Feb 14

realitystrikesagain says...

Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it

https://www.writetot



hem.com/write?pc=bd2



2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;fyr_ex
tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww



w.theyworkforyou.com



%2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi



d_ward%2Fbradford_ea



st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories

1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense

2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot.

Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead.

Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day. realitystrikesagain

4:37pm Mon 17 Feb 14

The Hoffster says...

Why is the anger directed at towards the individual in the article ?

Surely it's the *Council* that's at (supposed) fault here ?
Why is the anger directed at towards the individual in the article ? Surely it's the *Council* that's at (supposed) fault here ? The Hoffster

4:48pm Mon 17 Feb 14

realitystrikesagain says...

The Hoffster wrote:
Why is the anger directed at towards the individual in the article ?

Surely it's the *Council* that's at (supposed) fault here ?
Finally, common sense. This is an enterprising man looking to increase his wealth. Go harass the council. Want a demo? Go hold it outside the council offices. This man's actions at this time and moment are legal.

Should you demonstrate in ur neighbours garden if they get permission to build an extension that you don't agree with.

Well said hoffster
[quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: Why is the anger directed at towards the individual in the article ? Surely it's the *Council* that's at (supposed) fault here ?[/p][/quote]Finally, common sense. This is an enterprising man looking to increase his wealth. Go harass the council. Want a demo? Go hold it outside the council offices. This man's actions at this time and moment are legal. Should you demonstrate in ur neighbours garden if they get permission to build an extension that you don't agree with. Well said hoffster realitystrikesagain

5:02pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Apollo says...

The Hoffster wrote:
Why is the anger directed at towards the individual in the article ? Surely it's the *Council* that's at (supposed) fault here ?
Because he is a criminal and he paid no heed to the residents of Bradford the last time he was here, that is why.

The Council are incomptent and complicit.
[quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: Why is the anger directed at towards the individual in the article ? Surely it's the *Council* that's at (supposed) fault here ?[/p][/quote]Because he is a criminal and he paid no heed to the residents of Bradford the last time he was here, that is why. The Council are incomptent and complicit. Apollo

5:05pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Apollo says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
The Hoffster wrote: Why is the anger directed at towards the individual in the article ? Surely it's the *Council* that's at (supposed) fault here ?
Finally, common sense. This is an enterprising man looking to increase his wealth. Go harass the council. Want a demo? Go hold it outside the council offices. This man's actions at this time and moment are legal. Should you demonstrate in ur neighbours garden if they get permission to build an extension that you don't agree with. Well said hoffster
No, he is a criminal who cost the ratepayers of Bradford a large amount of money while getting rich.

If that is an example of the 'enterprise' you value then please continue to support criminality.
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: Why is the anger directed at towards the individual in the article ? Surely it's the *Council* that's at (supposed) fault here ?[/p][/quote]Finally, common sense. This is an enterprising man looking to increase his wealth. Go harass the council. Want a demo? Go hold it outside the council offices. This man's actions at this time and moment are legal. Should you demonstrate in ur neighbours garden if they get permission to build an extension that you don't agree with. Well said hoffster[/p][/quote]No, he is a criminal who cost the ratepayers of Bradford a large amount of money while getting rich. If that is an example of the 'enterprise' you value then please continue to support criminality. Apollo

6:00pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Freddy Elliot says...

Finally found somebody who's in bed with the hoffster. Amazed.
Finally found somebody who's in bed with the hoffster. Amazed. Freddy Elliot

6:49pm Mon 17 Feb 14

gracie field says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it

https://www.writetot




hem.com/write?pc=bd2




2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;fyr_ex
tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww




w.theyworkforyou.com




%2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi




d_ward%2Fbradford_ea




st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories

1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense

2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot.

Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead.

Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are.

Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind?

Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal.

Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree.

It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ! gracie field

7:28pm Mon 17 Feb 14

realitystrikesagain says...

gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it

https://www.writetot





hem.com/write?pc=bd2





2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;fyr_ex
tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww





w.theyworkforyou.com





%2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi





d_ward%2Fbradford_ea





st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories

1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense

2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot.

Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead.

Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are.

Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind?

Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal.

Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree.

It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants.
Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst.

Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties.

I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way.

Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
[quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred realitystrikesagain

8:10pm Mon 17 Feb 14

madzippy says...

Andy2010 wrote:
I have a friend who lives opposite the QLM building who has been trying to sell their house for the past year. They recently had a buyer until the buyer found out about this proposed bazaar.

Now it looks like they will never sell as the scum move up from Ashbourne
Excuse me I used to live on Ashbourne Way are you calling me scum?Do not tar everyone with the same brush!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I have a friend who lives opposite the QLM building who has been trying to sell their house for the past year. They recently had a buyer until the buyer found out about this proposed bazaar. Now it looks like they will never sell as the scum move up from Ashbourne[/p][/quote]Excuse me I used to live on Ashbourne Way are you calling me scum?Do not tar everyone with the same brush!!!!!!! madzippy

8:51pm Mon 17 Feb 14

gracie field says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it

https://www.writetot






hem.com/write?pc=bd2






2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;fyr_ex
tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww






w.theyworkforyou.com






%2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi






d_ward%2Fbradford_ea






st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories

1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense

2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot.

Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead.

Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are.

Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind?

Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal.

Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree.

It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants.
Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst.

Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties.

I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way.

Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind".

As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man.

But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form.

I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months.

Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it.

I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again. gracie field

8:52pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Beaten-nurse says...

This is a joke. The parking, traffic and road safety issues apply in this location as they did at the Tradex site, Mr. Saeed has already shown he can't be trusted to act responsibly or follow the rules and his grandiosity was clearly evident at his trial which I was present at.
Also, those who believe he is a genuine businessman simply out to better himself are blind. He's a deceitful money grabbing sneak who not only flouted the planning laws but ripped off the stallholders who paid him for a pitch in the belief he had set up the 'bazaar' legally.
I agree we need to protest as loudly as possible to protect our community and financial investments.
This is a joke. The parking, traffic and road safety issues apply in this location as they did at the Tradex site, Mr. Saeed has already shown he can't be trusted to act responsibly or follow the rules and his grandiosity was clearly evident at his trial which I was present at. Also, those who believe he is a genuine businessman simply out to better himself are blind. He's a deceitful money grabbing sneak who not only flouted the planning laws but ripped off the stallholders who paid him for a pitch in the belief he had set up the 'bazaar' legally. I agree we need to protest as loudly as possible to protect our community and financial investments. Beaten-nurse

8:53pm Mon 17 Feb 14

peterspan says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are.

This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car.

Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model.

Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)
Hear Hear... all those typing pathetic negative comments above, lead pathetic lives.. they are unable to make something of their lives, so they sit at home whinging about anyone who is trying to make something of theirs!

Get a life guys, or at least get a hobby, or even a better a job!
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are. This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car. Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model. Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)[/p][/quote]Hear Hear... all those typing pathetic negative comments above, lead pathetic lives.. they are unable to make something of their lives, so they sit at home whinging about anyone who is trying to make something of theirs! Get a life guys, or at least get a hobby, or even a better a job! peterspan

9:12pm Mon 17 Feb 14

peterspan says...

gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it

https://www.writetot







hem.com/write?pc=bd2







2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;fyr_ex
tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww







w.theyworkforyou.com







%2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi







d_ward%2Fbradford_ea







st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories

1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense

2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot.

Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead.

Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are.

Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind?

Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal.

Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree.

It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants.
Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst.

Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties.

I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way.

Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind".

As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man.

But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form.

I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months.

Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it.

I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"?

Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim?

It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default:

http://www.thetelegr
aphandargus.co.uk/ne
ws/10400131.Boss_of_
illegal_market_must_
pay___90_000/?ref=rs
s

Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be.

Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.
[quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.[/p][/quote]How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts. peterspan

10:21pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Avro says...

The facts are that the owner lied about parking spaces during the initial planning application, and had assumed that they'd be 'okay' to just use the Swing Gate car park for their own benefit.

Leopards don't ever change their spots!
The facts are that the owner lied about parking spaces during the initial planning application, and had assumed that they'd be 'okay' to just use the Swing Gate car park for their own benefit. Leopards don't ever change their spots! Avro

10:31pm Mon 17 Feb 14

realitystrikesagain says...

peterspan wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it

https://www.writetot








hem.com/write?pc=bd2








2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;fyr_ex
tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww








w.theyworkforyou.com








%2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi








d_ward%2Fbradford_ea








st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories

1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense

2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot.

Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead.

Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are.

Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind?

Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal.

Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree.

It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants.
Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst.

Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties.

I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way.

Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind".

As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man.

But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form.

I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months.

Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it.

I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"?

Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim?

It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default:

http://www.thetelegr

aphandargus.co.uk/ne

ws/10400131.Boss_of_

illegal_market_must_

pay___90_000/?ref=rs

s

Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be.

Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.
Covert photographer are you Elliot?
Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence.

Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work?

You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site.

You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable.

Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.
[quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.[/p][/quote]How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.[/p][/quote]Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient. realitystrikesagain

7:16am Tue 18 Feb 14

Albion. says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
peterspan wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it

https://www.writetot









hem.com/write?pc=bd2









2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;fyr_ex
tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww









w.theyworkforyou.com









%2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi









d_ward%2Fbradford_ea









st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories

1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense

2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot.

Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead.

Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are.

Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind?

Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal.

Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree.

It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants.
Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst.

Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties.

I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way.

Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind".

As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man.

But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form.

I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months.

Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it.

I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"?

Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim?

It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default:

http://www.thetelegr


aphandargus.co.uk/ne


ws/10400131.Boss_of_


illegal_market_must_


pay___90_000/?ref=rs


s

Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be.

Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.
Covert photographer are you Elliot?
Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence.

Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work?

You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site.

You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable.

Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.
" A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient."
That's rather a generalisation. One community seems to have a higher percentage of drug dealers, planning cheats and people in prison. Isn't this supposed to be about one man and his son, their history of property and business dealings and the proposed business in the featured property?
Not forgetting the rather contestable decisions of the council?
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.[/p][/quote]How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.[/p][/quote]Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.[/p][/quote]" A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient." That's rather a generalisation. One community seems to have a higher percentage of drug dealers, planning cheats and people in prison. Isn't this supposed to be about one man and his son, their history of property and business dealings and the proposed business in the featured property? Not forgetting the rather contestable decisions of the council? Albion.

7:55am Tue 18 Feb 14

Apollo says...

Has he paid his fines and costs, in full, from last time? That is the fact I want answering.
Has he paid his fines and costs, in full, from last time? That is the fact I want answering. Apollo

8:39am Tue 18 Feb 14

SinnerSaint says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
peterspan wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it

https://www.writetot









hem.com/write?pc=bd2









2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;fyr_ex
tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww









w.theyworkforyou.com









%2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi









d_ward%2Fbradford_ea









st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories

1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense

2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot.

Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead.

Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are.

Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind?

Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal.

Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree.

It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants.
Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst.

Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties.

I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way.

Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind".

As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man.

But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form.

I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months.

Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it.

I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"?

Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim?

It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default:

http://www.thetelegr


aphandargus.co.uk/ne


ws/10400131.Boss_of_


illegal_market_must_


pay___90_000/?ref=rs


s

Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be.

Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.
Covert photographer are you Elliot?
Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence.

Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work?

You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site.

You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable.

Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.
Ok. Let's forget about your fantasy world and get back to the real one.

Google "drug dealer Bradford". And discuss on the basis of your comments above. These ugly ****s aren't exactly pharmacists in the true sense of the word, are they?
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.[/p][/quote]How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.[/p][/quote]Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.[/p][/quote]Ok. Let's forget about your fantasy world and get back to the real one. Google "drug dealer Bradford". And discuss on the basis of your comments above. These ugly ****s aren't exactly pharmacists in the true sense of the word, are they? SinnerSaint

10:22am Tue 18 Feb 14

Apollo says...

Why would anyone want to buy from or deal with a convicted criminal?
Why would anyone want to buy from or deal with a convicted criminal? Apollo

11:34am Tue 18 Feb 14

Idlelord says...

Setting aside a lot of the vitriol above this is dumb beyond belief. The man has proven unsuitable to run this kind of venture already and the local area is no more in need of a bazaar than his previous site did that of a beer keller.
There is neither adequate parking for customers nor traders - go see for yourself - and this will result in bedlam. As for on-street parking, once again, go see for yourself.
This building has no realistic future use and should have been flattened when Morrisons vacated it some 30 years ago.
Another incomprehensible decision from the expensed idiots at City Hall.
Setting aside a lot of the vitriol above this is dumb beyond belief. The man has proven unsuitable to run this kind of venture already and the local area is no more in need of a bazaar than his previous site did that of a beer keller. There is neither adequate parking for customers nor traders - go see for yourself - and this will result in bedlam. As for on-street parking, once again, go see for yourself. This building has no realistic future use and should have been flattened when Morrisons vacated it some 30 years ago. Another incomprehensible decision from the expensed idiots at City Hall. Idlelord

11:52am Tue 18 Feb 14

Idlelord says...

One more thought given the existence of several shiny new and unoccupied retail units ironically on the site of the current Morrisons.
Would it be churlish to to suggest that Mr Saeed has negotiated a "trouser it fast and leg it" lease, one that he may not have been able to secure on the more suitable retail park?
Just a thought!
One more thought given the existence of several shiny new and unoccupied retail units ironically on the site of the current Morrisons. Would it be churlish to to suggest that Mr Saeed has negotiated a "trouser it fast and leg it" lease, one that he may not have been able to secure on the more suitable retail park? Just a thought! Idlelord

12:03pm Tue 18 Feb 14

eccythump says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are.

This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car.

Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model.

Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)
No, you're missing the point.

Nobody is objecting to enterprise and ambition, Bradford could do with a lot more of it. The concerns are being raised because this man deliberately flaunted the rules in order to make money for himself. In any other city he would have been banned from running a market.
Yes he did. He was ordered to pay a penalty. Also banned from operating a market in that particular location.

A little like drinking and fighting in one pub. Banned from that pub. Not banned from drinking

This democracy we lives in affords us the right to go forward and prosper legally. This particular bazaar is legal. He has the legal right to operate it. You have no argument

You have an opinion, but then opinions don't constitute law. Good luck to him
So what about the story in todays T&A regarding a Girlington take-away, it operated ILLEGALLY for over a year, yet has now been given retrospective planning permission !? How? Why? With food preparation and distribution, directly to the public, for consumption, one would think that operating ILLEGALLY, would be a serious health and safety matter.
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are. This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car. Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model. Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)[/p][/quote]No, you're missing the point. Nobody is objecting to enterprise and ambition, Bradford could do with a lot more of it. The concerns are being raised because this man deliberately flaunted the rules in order to make money for himself. In any other city he would have been banned from running a market.[/p][/quote]Yes he did. He was ordered to pay a penalty. Also banned from operating a market in that particular location. A little like drinking and fighting in one pub. Banned from that pub. Not banned from drinking This democracy we lives in affords us the right to go forward and prosper legally. This particular bazaar is legal. He has the legal right to operate it. You have no argument You have an opinion, but then opinions don't constitute law. Good luck to him[/p][/quote]So what about the story in todays T&A regarding a Girlington take-away, it operated ILLEGALLY for over a year, yet has now been given retrospective planning permission !? How? Why? With food preparation and distribution, directly to the public, for consumption, one would think that operating ILLEGALLY, would be a serious health and safety matter. eccythump

12:31pm Tue 18 Feb 14

eccythump says...

gracie field wrote:
Have the workers at Bradford council followed the laws and regulations correctly? Have the decision makers at Bradford council been investigated in the way they have dealt with this criminal? This should be an open and transparent case for all to see. I personally think those at Bradford council have probably been coerced or involved with giving this criminal a licence at all.

We don't want him or his business in our area and that means all of the home-owners by the way before anyone tries to pretend I meant anything different.

Bradford council need to publish its reasons and its regulations regarding this market because this doesn't sit right at all and we as tax payers deserve to be treated within the law after all it is he who is the criminal not us the local people.
Reminds me of this story in the T&A Gracie :-

Neighbours angry at empty bungalow

Neighbours living next to a run-down bungalow fear a legal battle could be looming if the new owner misses a December deadline to make it habitable.
The neglected bungalow in Kings Road, Wrose, was bought by Bradford Council using a Compulsory Purchase Order because its previous owner had been admitted to hospital long-term and it had fallen into disrepair.
Several people wanted to buy the property, which was sold to Bradford Councillor Ishtiaq Ahmed in December 2012.
A condition of the sale was that it would be brought back into use within a year, but ten months later the windows are still boarded and tall weeds are tangled across the garden.
Neighbours say little appears to have been done – and they claim that no-one has been working at the property since June,
George Young, 86, lives in the bungalow attached to the dilapidated bungalow, and Astrid and Alan Pargeter live the other side. They worry that if the work is not completed, there could be court proceedings which will further delay repairs to the bungalow has been run down for nine years.
And they say a broken fence at the end of the back garden has also led to groups of trespassing teenagers on motorbikes tearing up the drive every evening to access the grounds of Bolton Villas cricket club to the rear.
“It’s getting frightening,” said Mrs Pargeter, 75.
“I was sat in my garden reading my book and I looked up and this woman said, ‘mind your own business, it’s nowt to do with you’.
“I thought, I was only reading my book!”
Mr Young’s daughter, Jane Cranston-Young, said they were “absolutely thrilled” when it was sold.
“We thought it was absolutely fantastic, then nothing,” she said.
She is frustrated that Bradford Council appears not to be keeping check on progress.
“I think they have a duty of care after taking possession and selling it to somebody,” she said.
Councillor Ahmed was keen to reassure residents his workmen should meet the deadline for renovations.
“Work is ongoing and I am hoping it will be finished by Christmas. This is a private property and I have tenants wanting to go in,” he said.
“The thing is there was more work to do than anticipated. For example when the floorboards came up the joists beneath were rotten. Contractually I am still within the 12 months and while people only see the exterior, there have been improvements inside.”
Coun Ahmed said he was unaware of the the drive being used as a cut through to the cricket club.
The Council did not give any specific details of what checks are being done to monitor the work or what would happen if the work was not completed
The first paragraph seems rather telling. The property was acquired by Bradford council via a Compulsory purchase order. Several people wanted to buy it, they decided to let Councillor Ahmed buy it ! (dodgy)? He then left it to go to rack and ruin. From what I remember at the time, it wasn't the first time he had done this exact same thing. Now don't you think that councillors should not be allowed to use their position in this manner, to acquire properties etc !? Especially if they have a history of not fulfilling the 'conditions of sale', placed upon these properties ? I certainly do.
[quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: Have the workers at Bradford council followed the laws and regulations correctly? Have the decision makers at Bradford council been investigated in the way they have dealt with this criminal? This should be an open and transparent case for all to see. I personally think those at Bradford council have probably been coerced or involved with giving this criminal a licence at all. We don't want him or his business in our area and that means all of the home-owners by the way before anyone tries to pretend I meant anything different. Bradford council need to publish its reasons and its regulations regarding this market because this doesn't sit right at all and we as tax payers deserve to be treated within the law after all it is he who is the criminal not us the local people.[/p][/quote]Reminds me of this story in the T&A Gracie :- Neighbours angry at empty bungalow Neighbours living next to a run-down bungalow fear a legal battle could be looming if the new owner misses a December deadline to make it habitable. The neglected bungalow in Kings Road, Wrose, was bought by Bradford Council using a Compulsory Purchase Order because its previous owner had been admitted to hospital long-term and it had fallen into disrepair. Several people wanted to buy the property, which was sold to Bradford Councillor Ishtiaq Ahmed in December 2012. A condition of the sale was that it would be brought back into use within a year, but ten months later the windows are still boarded and tall weeds are tangled across the garden. Neighbours say little appears to have been done – and they claim that no-one has been working at the property since June, George Young, 86, lives in the bungalow attached to the dilapidated bungalow, and Astrid and Alan Pargeter live the other side. They worry that if the work is not completed, there could be court proceedings which will further delay repairs to the bungalow has been run down for nine years. And they say a broken fence at the end of the back garden has also led to groups of trespassing teenagers on motorbikes tearing up the drive every evening to access the grounds of Bolton Villas cricket club to the rear. “It’s getting frightening,” said Mrs Pargeter, 75. “I was sat in my garden reading my book and I looked up and this woman said, ‘mind your own business, it’s nowt to do with you’. “I thought, I was only reading my book!” Mr Young’s daughter, Jane Cranston-Young, said they were “absolutely thrilled” when it was sold. “We thought it was absolutely fantastic, then nothing,” she said. She is frustrated that Bradford Council appears not to be keeping check on progress. “I think they have a duty of care after taking possession and selling it to somebody,” she said. Councillor Ahmed was keen to reassure residents his workmen should meet the deadline for renovations. “Work is ongoing and I am hoping it will be finished by Christmas. This is a private property and I have tenants wanting to go in,” he said. “The thing is there was more work to do than anticipated. For example when the floorboards came up the joists beneath were rotten. Contractually I am still within the 12 months and while people only see the exterior, there have been improvements inside.” Coun Ahmed said he was unaware of the the drive being used as a cut through to the cricket club. The Council did not give any specific details of what checks are being done to monitor the work or what would happen if the work was not completed The first paragraph seems rather telling. The property was acquired by Bradford council via a Compulsory purchase order. Several people wanted to buy it, they decided to let Councillor Ahmed buy it ! (dodgy)? He then left it to go to rack and ruin. From what I remember at the time, it wasn't the first time he had done this exact same thing. Now don't you think that councillors should not be allowed to use their position in this manner, to acquire properties etc !? Especially if they have a history of not fulfilling the 'conditions of sale', placed upon these properties ? I certainly do. eccythump

12:53pm Tue 18 Feb 14

eccythump says...

Avro wrote:
The facts are that the owner lied about parking spaces during the initial planning application, and had assumed that they'd be 'okay' to just use the Swing Gate car park for their own benefit.

Leopards don't ever change their spots!
He didn't just 'assume' it. He lied about it. He then went on to lie that he had garnered permissions from the Upper Bolton Conservative club, to use their parking facilities too .
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: The facts are that the owner lied about parking spaces during the initial planning application, and had assumed that they'd be 'okay' to just use the Swing Gate car park for their own benefit. Leopards don't ever change their spots![/p][/quote]He didn't just 'assume' it. He lied about it. He then went on to lie that he had garnered permissions from the Upper Bolton Conservative club, to use their parking facilities too . eccythump

12:58pm Tue 18 Feb 14

eccythump says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
peterspan wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it

https://www.writetot









hem.com/write?pc=bd2









2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;fyr_ex
tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww









w.theyworkforyou.com









%2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi









d_ward%2Fbradford_ea









st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories

1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense

2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot.

Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead.

Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are.

Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind?

Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal.

Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree.

It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants.
Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst.

Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties.

I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way.

Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind".

As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man.

But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form.

I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months.

Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it.

I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"?

Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim?

It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default:

http://www.thetelegr


aphandargus.co.uk/ne


ws/10400131.Boss_of_


illegal_market_must_


pay___90_000/?ref=rs


s

Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be.

Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.
Covert photographer are you Elliot?
Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence.

Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work?

You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site.

You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable.

Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.
..and many from that community are now turning to extremism, seeking to drag their peers (and us with them) back to the 14th century. Some are no doubt over in Syria, slaughtering Christians, practicing for the day they can do it on the streets of Bradford! Allah be praised eh !?
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.[/p][/quote]How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.[/p][/quote]Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.[/p][/quote]..and many from that community are now turning to extremism, seeking to drag their peers (and us with them) back to the 14th century. Some are no doubt over in Syria, slaughtering Christians, practicing for the day they can do it on the streets of Bradford! Allah be praised eh !? eccythump

1:09pm Tue 18 Feb 14

eccythump says...

eccythump wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
pcmanners wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are.

This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car.

Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model.

Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)
No, you're missing the point.

Nobody is objecting to enterprise and ambition, Bradford could do with a lot more of it. The concerns are being raised because this man deliberately flaunted the rules in order to make money for himself. In any other city he would have been banned from running a market.
Yes he did. He was ordered to pay a penalty. Also banned from operating a market in that particular location.

A little like drinking and fighting in one pub. Banned from that pub. Not banned from drinking

This democracy we lives in affords us the right to go forward and prosper legally. This particular bazaar is legal. He has the legal right to operate it. You have no argument

You have an opinion, but then opinions don't constitute law. Good luck to him
So what about the story in todays T&A regarding a Girlington take-away, it operated ILLEGALLY for over a year, yet has now been given retrospective planning permission !? How? Why? With food preparation and distribution, directly to the public, for consumption, one would think that operating ILLEGALLY, would be a serious health and safety matter.
Regarding this story. It is on the Facebook page. Someone on there just replied in disgust, that a person they know was just ordered by Bradford council, to rip up decking he had put down, without permission ! Yes of course, because that is far more likely to be a danger to the public at large, in Bradford. Than an illegally run take-away! Nothing untoward ever goes on in those places does it !? Where was this persons 'retrospective permission', I wonder ?
[quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pcmanners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are. This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car. Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model. Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)[/p][/quote]No, you're missing the point. Nobody is objecting to enterprise and ambition, Bradford could do with a lot more of it. The concerns are being raised because this man deliberately flaunted the rules in order to make money for himself. In any other city he would have been banned from running a market.[/p][/quote]Yes he did. He was ordered to pay a penalty. Also banned from operating a market in that particular location. A little like drinking and fighting in one pub. Banned from that pub. Not banned from drinking This democracy we lives in affords us the right to go forward and prosper legally. This particular bazaar is legal. He has the legal right to operate it. You have no argument You have an opinion, but then opinions don't constitute law. Good luck to him[/p][/quote]So what about the story in todays T&A regarding a Girlington take-away, it operated ILLEGALLY for over a year, yet has now been given retrospective planning permission !? How? Why? With food preparation and distribution, directly to the public, for consumption, one would think that operating ILLEGALLY, would be a serious health and safety matter.[/p][/quote]Regarding this story. It is on the Facebook page. Someone on there just replied in disgust, that a person they know was just ordered by Bradford council, to rip up decking he had put down, without permission ! Yes of course, because that is far more likely to be a danger to the public at large, in Bradford. Than an illegally run take-away! Nothing untoward ever goes on in those places does it !? Where was this persons 'retrospective permission', I wonder ? eccythump

4:19pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
Have the workers at Bradford council followed the laws and regulations correctly? Have the decision makers at Bradford council been investigated in the way they have dealt with this criminal? This should be an open and transparent case for all to see. I personally think those at Bradford council have probably been coerced or involved with giving this criminal a licence at all.

We don't want him or his business in our area and that means all of the home-owners by the way before anyone tries to pretend I meant anything different.

Bradford council need to publish its reasons and its regulations regarding this market because this doesn't sit right at all and we as tax payers deserve to be treated within the law after all it is he who is the criminal not us the local people.
Sell up and leave. If you don't like change and progression, leave.

If the answer to that is that you can't sell as nobody will buy then I suggest you adjust your asking prices to reflect the market. This area as you now claim is run down must be compared with prices in other run down areas. At a reasonably educated guess I would suggest £50 thousand for a typical mid terrace and £75 thousand for a typical 2/3 bed semi. Any takers? I thought not! Oh well, you can't have it all your own way. It's a multicultural city. That means a multitude of varying cultures are a part of the city. They are free in law to go where they please and free in law to practice business where ever in this city they wish.

Remember, he paid to purchase this site. He didn't borrow from any of you. Any of you have no right to dictate. However if any of you are able and willing to put up, do so. Buy the place from him at a price he can't refuse and build anything you like within planning laws. Just like this man has done
Has anyone tried to drive past this building/top of Myers Lane at 3PM ish, school kicking out time? It is murder, the traffic is intolerable already at that time, I can only imagine how much worse it will become.

Well done yet again Bradford Council.

The word council means to discuss and hold talks doesn't it? Can anyone tell me when these occurred?
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: Have the workers at Bradford council followed the laws and regulations correctly? Have the decision makers at Bradford council been investigated in the way they have dealt with this criminal? This should be an open and transparent case for all to see. I personally think those at Bradford council have probably been coerced or involved with giving this criminal a licence at all. We don't want him or his business in our area and that means all of the home-owners by the way before anyone tries to pretend I meant anything different. Bradford council need to publish its reasons and its regulations regarding this market because this doesn't sit right at all and we as tax payers deserve to be treated within the law after all it is he who is the criminal not us the local people.[/p][/quote]Sell up and leave. If you don't like change and progression, leave. If the answer to that is that you can't sell as nobody will buy then I suggest you adjust your asking prices to reflect the market. This area as you now claim is run down must be compared with prices in other run down areas. At a reasonably educated guess I would suggest £50 thousand for a typical mid terrace and £75 thousand for a typical 2/3 bed semi. Any takers? I thought not! Oh well, you can't have it all your own way. It's a multicultural city. That means a multitude of varying cultures are a part of the city. They are free in law to go where they please and free in law to practice business where ever in this city they wish. Remember, he paid to purchase this site. He didn't borrow from any of you. Any of you have no right to dictate. However if any of you are able and willing to put up, do so. Buy the place from him at a price he can't refuse and build anything you like within planning laws. Just like this man has done[/p][/quote]Has anyone tried to drive past this building/top of Myers Lane at 3PM ish, school kicking out time? It is murder, the traffic is intolerable already at that time, I can only imagine how much worse it will become. Well done yet again Bradford Council. The word council means to discuss and hold talks doesn't it? Can anyone tell me when these occurred? Prisoner Cell Block A

5:22pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Smell the coffee says...

Only in Bradford can you run an illegal Bazaar for years then buy a legal Bazaar with the ill gotten gains. Can i also take this opportunity to offer the people of Idle my deepest condolences as gardens lawns will be replaced with concrete and nice stone garden walls are replaced with breeze blocks. That downward spiral to filth, crime and ghettoisation is upon you.
Only in Bradford can you run an illegal Bazaar for years then buy a legal Bazaar with the ill gotten gains. Can i also take this opportunity to offer the people of Idle my deepest condolences as gardens lawns will be replaced with concrete and nice stone garden walls are replaced with breeze blocks. That downward spiral to filth, crime and ghettoisation is upon you. Smell the coffee

6:38pm Tue 18 Feb 14

hx3bantam says...

Loving the rabid nonsense from the Usual Suspects! As hilarious as they are I haven't time to read them all now as I've got to go to VP for the match. I'll read them later!
Loving the rabid nonsense from the Usual Suspects! As hilarious as they are I haven't time to read them all now as I've got to go to VP for the match. I'll read them later! hx3bantam

11:26am Wed 19 Feb 14

johnh1 says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
peterspan wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am
p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.
Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.
5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year.
Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum.
When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down.
I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.[/p][/quote]How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.[/p][/quote]Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.[/p][/quote]5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year. Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum. When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down. I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved. johnh1

12:19pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

johnh1 wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
peterspan wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.
Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.
5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year.
Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum.
When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down.
I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.
I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me.

If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.
[quote][p][bold]johnh1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.[/p][/quote]How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.[/p][/quote]Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.[/p][/quote]5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year. Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum. When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down. I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.[/p][/quote]I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me. If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues. Prisoner Cell Block A

5:15pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Apollo says...

Open note to Mr.Saeed - you are a crook and a criminal and not wanted in Bradford.

You brough misery to thousands in the city and cost every ratepayer money in doing so.

Go somewhere, anywhere else to trade but do not come back to Bradford.
Open note to Mr.Saeed - you are a crook and a criminal and not wanted in Bradford. You brough misery to thousands in the city and cost every ratepayer money in doing so. Go somewhere, anywhere else to trade but do not come back to Bradford. Apollo

8:22pm Wed 19 Feb 14

say_it_as_it_is says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
johnh1 wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
peterspan wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.
Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.
5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year.
Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum.
When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down.
I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.
I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me.

If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.
What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments.

Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments.

If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford.

Most of these people need to get a life.

"Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it"

Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnh1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.[/p][/quote]How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.[/p][/quote]Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.[/p][/quote]5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year. Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum. When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down. I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.[/p][/quote]I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me. If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.[/p][/quote]What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments. Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments. If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford. Most of these people need to get a life. "Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it" Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population. say_it_as_it_is

11:13am Thu 20 Feb 14

saleemy says...

This whole thing stinks of garam masala to me.
;)
This whole thing stinks of garam masala to me. ;) saleemy

12:30pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
johnh1 wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
peterspan wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.
Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.
5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year.
Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum.
When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down.
I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.
I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me.

If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.
What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments.

Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments.

If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford.

Most of these people need to get a life.

"Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it"

Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.
No its because that story has no detrimental effect on anyone. This story to the local residents does so they are right to challenge the decision.

Also this owner has lied and been prosecuted in the past s therefore the residents have every right to be unhappy.

That's the difference idiot
[quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnh1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.[/p][/quote]How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.[/p][/quote]Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.[/p][/quote]5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year. Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum. When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down. I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.[/p][/quote]I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me. If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.[/p][/quote]What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments. Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments. If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford. Most of these people need to get a life. "Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it" Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.[/p][/quote]No its because that story has no detrimental effect on anyone. This story to the local residents does so they are right to challenge the decision. Also this owner has lied and been prosecuted in the past s therefore the residents have every right to be unhappy. That's the difference idiot Andy2010

12:39pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Freddy Elliot says...

"The rise of large bazaars and stock trading centers in the Muslim World allowed the creation of new capitals and eventually new empires".

Times they are a changing.
"The rise of large bazaars and stock trading centers in the Muslim World allowed the creation of new capitals and eventually new empires". Times they are a changing. Freddy Elliot

12:56pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Apollo says...

It has nothing to do with his race or religion (despite that fact he is a disgrace to both) and everything to do with the fact he is a convicted criminal.

Play the race card if you want but it simply will not wash in this case.

The vitriol is aimed at the individual.
It has nothing to do with his race or religion (despite that fact he is a disgrace to both) and everything to do with the fact he is a convicted criminal. Play the race card if you want but it simply will not wash in this case. The vitriol is aimed at the individual. Apollo

1:27pm Thu 20 Feb 14

say_it_as_it_is says...

Andy2010 wrote:
say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
johnh1 wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
peterspan wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.
Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.
5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year.
Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum.
When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down.
I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.
I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me.

If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.
What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments.

Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments.

If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford.

Most of these people need to get a life.

"Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it"

Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.
No its because that story has no detrimental effect on anyone. This story to the local residents does so they are right to challenge the decision.

Also this owner has lied and been prosecuted in the past s therefore the residents have every right to be unhappy.

That's the difference idiot
Obviously there is a difference in the stories you retard. My point is if people have a problem with the Bazaar opening then take it up with the council, and query how they made their decision, instead of having a go at one section of the community. (read through the comments)

Unfortunately bigoted people like yourself, just can't stand anything which is "foreign".
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnh1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.[/p][/quote]How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.[/p][/quote]Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.[/p][/quote]5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year. Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum. When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down. I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.[/p][/quote]I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me. If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.[/p][/quote]What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments. Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments. If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford. Most of these people need to get a life. "Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it" Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.[/p][/quote]No its because that story has no detrimental effect on anyone. This story to the local residents does so they are right to challenge the decision. Also this owner has lied and been prosecuted in the past s therefore the residents have every right to be unhappy. That's the difference idiot[/p][/quote]Obviously there is a difference in the stories you retard. My point is if people have a problem with the Bazaar opening then take it up with the council, and query how they made their decision, instead of having a go at one section of the community. (read through the comments) Unfortunately bigoted people like yourself, just can't stand anything which is "foreign". say_it_as_it_is

2:28pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
johnh1 wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
peterspan wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.
Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.
5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year.
Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum.
When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down.
I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.
I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me.

If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.
What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments.

Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments.

If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford.

Most of these people need to get a life.

"Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it"

Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.
No its because that story has no detrimental effect on anyone. This story to the local residents does so they are right to challenge the decision.

Also this owner has lied and been prosecuted in the past s therefore the residents have every right to be unhappy.

That's the difference idiot
Obviously there is a difference in the stories you retard. My point is if people have a problem with the Bazaar opening then take it up with the council, and query how they made their decision, instead of having a go at one section of the community. (read through the comments)

Unfortunately bigoted people like yourself, just can't stand anything which is "foreign".
yeah cant stand anything foreign

As I sit at home ordering a curry on my Swedish sofa, watching my Japanese TV , sometimes checking my Korean phone before going shopping in an American supermarket. Also looking forward to booking my holiday in the summer to a Muslim country to soak up the culture and visit some local Muslim sites.

Yes I'm a right bigot !!

People on here including myself would have exactly the same problem is the guy opening this "market" was white and called Brian. It isn't about that its about how the application was granted.

THE CLUE TO THE STORY IS IN THE PUN IN THE HEADLINE.....IDIOT

And by the way seeing as you are saying some posters including myself are "bigots"............
... What colour skin and religion do you think I am ?....are you assuming I'm white?

That would be the BIGOT in you
[quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnh1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.[/p][/quote]How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.[/p][/quote]Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.[/p][/quote]5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year. Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum. When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down. I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.[/p][/quote]I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me. If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.[/p][/quote]What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments. Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments. If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford. Most of these people need to get a life. "Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it" Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.[/p][/quote]No its because that story has no detrimental effect on anyone. This story to the local residents does so they are right to challenge the decision. Also this owner has lied and been prosecuted in the past s therefore the residents have every right to be unhappy. That's the difference idiot[/p][/quote]Obviously there is a difference in the stories you retard. My point is if people have a problem with the Bazaar opening then take it up with the council, and query how they made their decision, instead of having a go at one section of the community. (read through the comments) Unfortunately bigoted people like yourself, just can't stand anything which is "foreign".[/p][/quote]yeah cant stand anything foreign As I sit at home ordering a curry on my Swedish sofa, watching my Japanese TV , sometimes checking my Korean phone before going shopping in an American supermarket. Also looking forward to booking my holiday in the summer to a Muslim country to soak up the culture and visit some local Muslim sites. Yes I'm a right bigot !! People on here including myself would have exactly the same problem is the guy opening this "market" was white and called Brian. It isn't about that its about how the application was granted. THE CLUE TO THE STORY IS IN THE PUN IN THE HEADLINE.....IDIOT And by the way seeing as you are saying some posters including myself are "bigots"............ ... What colour skin and religion do you think I am ?....are you assuming I'm white? That would be the BIGOT in you Andy2010

2:56pm Thu 20 Feb 14

say_it_as_it_is says...

Andy2010 wrote:
say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
johnh1 wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
peterspan wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.
Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.
5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year.
Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum.
When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down.
I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.
I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me.

If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.
What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments.

Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments.

If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford.

Most of these people need to get a life.

"Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it"

Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.
No its because that story has no detrimental effect on anyone. This story to the local residents does so they are right to challenge the decision.

Also this owner has lied and been prosecuted in the past s therefore the residents have every right to be unhappy.

That's the difference idiot
Obviously there is a difference in the stories you retard. My point is if people have a problem with the Bazaar opening then take it up with the council, and query how they made their decision, instead of having a go at one section of the community. (read through the comments)

Unfortunately bigoted people like yourself, just can't stand anything which is "foreign".
yeah cant stand anything foreign

As I sit at home ordering a curry on my Swedish sofa, watching my Japanese TV , sometimes checking my Korean phone before going shopping in an American supermarket. Also looking forward to booking my holiday in the summer to a Muslim country to soak up the culture and visit some local Muslim sites.

Yes I'm a right bigot !!

People on here including myself would have exactly the same problem is the guy opening this "market" was white and called Brian. It isn't about that its about how the application was granted.

THE CLUE TO THE STORY IS IN THE PUN IN THE HEADLINE.....IDIOT

And by the way seeing as you are saying some posters including myself are "bigots"............

... What colour skin and religion do you think I am ?....are you assuming I'm white?

That would be the BIGOT in you
Touched a nerve I think, so shall I assume you are all for a Bazaar as long as someone with a clean background puts in an application?

Also was anything illegal done by the council by allowing this individual the application? If not, what's the prob, as you say your all for everything foreign.

I couldn't care less what your skin colour is, biggiots come in all colours and sizes
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnh1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.[/p][/quote]How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.[/p][/quote]Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.[/p][/quote]5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year. Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum. When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down. I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.[/p][/quote]I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me. If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.[/p][/quote]What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments. Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments. If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford. Most of these people need to get a life. "Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it" Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.[/p][/quote]No its because that story has no detrimental effect on anyone. This story to the local residents does so they are right to challenge the decision. Also this owner has lied and been prosecuted in the past s therefore the residents have every right to be unhappy. That's the difference idiot[/p][/quote]Obviously there is a difference in the stories you retard. My point is if people have a problem with the Bazaar opening then take it up with the council, and query how they made their decision, instead of having a go at one section of the community. (read through the comments) Unfortunately bigoted people like yourself, just can't stand anything which is "foreign".[/p][/quote]yeah cant stand anything foreign As I sit at home ordering a curry on my Swedish sofa, watching my Japanese TV , sometimes checking my Korean phone before going shopping in an American supermarket. Also looking forward to booking my holiday in the summer to a Muslim country to soak up the culture and visit some local Muslim sites. Yes I'm a right bigot !! People on here including myself would have exactly the same problem is the guy opening this "market" was white and called Brian. It isn't about that its about how the application was granted. THE CLUE TO THE STORY IS IN THE PUN IN THE HEADLINE.....IDIOT And by the way seeing as you are saying some posters including myself are "bigots"............ ... What colour skin and religion do you think I am ?....are you assuming I'm white? That would be the BIGOT in you[/p][/quote]Touched a nerve I think, so shall I assume you are all for a Bazaar as long as someone with a clean background puts in an application? Also was anything illegal done by the council by allowing this individual the application? If not, what's the prob, as you say your all for everything foreign. I couldn't care less what your skin colour is, biggiots come in all colours and sizes say_it_as_it_is

3:02pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
johnh1 wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
peterspan wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.
Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.
5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year.
Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum.
When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down.
I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.
I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me.

If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.
What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments.

Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments.

If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford.

Most of these people need to get a life.

"Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it"

Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.
No its because that story has no detrimental effect on anyone. This story to the local residents does so they are right to challenge the decision.

Also this owner has lied and been prosecuted in the past s therefore the residents have every right to be unhappy.

That's the difference idiot
Obviously there is a difference in the stories you retard. My point is if people have a problem with the Bazaar opening then take it up with the council, and query how they made their decision, instead of having a go at one section of the community. (read through the comments)

Unfortunately bigoted people like yourself, just can't stand anything which is "foreign".
yeah cant stand anything foreign

As I sit at home ordering a curry on my Swedish sofa, watching my Japanese TV , sometimes checking my Korean phone before going shopping in an American supermarket. Also looking forward to booking my holiday in the summer to a Muslim country to soak up the culture and visit some local Muslim sites.

Yes I'm a right bigot !!

People on here including myself would have exactly the same problem is the guy opening this "market" was white and called Brian. It isn't about that its about how the application was granted.

THE CLUE TO THE STORY IS IN THE PUN IN THE HEADLINE.....IDIOT

And by the way seeing as you are saying some posters including myself are "bigots"............


... What colour skin and religion do you think I am ?....are you assuming I'm white?

That would be the BIGOT in you
Touched a nerve I think, so shall I assume you are all for a Bazaar as long as someone with a clean background puts in an application?

Also was anything illegal done by the council by allowing this individual the application? If not, what's the prob, as you say your all for everything foreign.

I couldn't care less what your skin colour is, biggiots come in all colours and sizes
yes you have really un-nerved me !!

Yes if a person was fit and proper and not a track history of lying and plans were put in place to avoid any traffic and parking problems I dont think anyone would have a problem with this market opening in a disused building.

But THIS person isn't fit and proper and yes you are right in the fact that council should not have granted this permission. Then again though this is Bradford Council

Anyway not to worry as this place will be opened, everything will kick off and then be shut down in six months.
[quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnh1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.[/p][/quote]How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.[/p][/quote]Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.[/p][/quote]5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year. Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum. When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down. I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.[/p][/quote]I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me. If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.[/p][/quote]What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments. Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments. If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford. Most of these people need to get a life. "Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it" Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.[/p][/quote]No its because that story has no detrimental effect on anyone. This story to the local residents does so they are right to challenge the decision. Also this owner has lied and been prosecuted in the past s therefore the residents have every right to be unhappy. That's the difference idiot[/p][/quote]Obviously there is a difference in the stories you retard. My point is if people have a problem with the Bazaar opening then take it up with the council, and query how they made their decision, instead of having a go at one section of the community. (read through the comments) Unfortunately bigoted people like yourself, just can't stand anything which is "foreign".[/p][/quote]yeah cant stand anything foreign As I sit at home ordering a curry on my Swedish sofa, watching my Japanese TV , sometimes checking my Korean phone before going shopping in an American supermarket. Also looking forward to booking my holiday in the summer to a Muslim country to soak up the culture and visit some local Muslim sites. Yes I'm a right bigot !! People on here including myself would have exactly the same problem is the guy opening this "market" was white and called Brian. It isn't about that its about how the application was granted. THE CLUE TO THE STORY IS IN THE PUN IN THE HEADLINE.....IDIOT And by the way seeing as you are saying some posters including myself are "bigots"............ ... What colour skin and religion do you think I am ?....are you assuming I'm white? That would be the BIGOT in you[/p][/quote]Touched a nerve I think, so shall I assume you are all for a Bazaar as long as someone with a clean background puts in an application? Also was anything illegal done by the council by allowing this individual the application? If not, what's the prob, as you say your all for everything foreign. I couldn't care less what your skin colour is, biggiots come in all colours and sizes[/p][/quote]yes you have really un-nerved me !! Yes if a person was fit and proper and not a track history of lying and plans were put in place to avoid any traffic and parking problems I dont think anyone would have a problem with this market opening in a disused building. But THIS person isn't fit and proper and yes you are right in the fact that council should not have granted this permission. Then again though this is Bradford Council Anyway not to worry as this place will be opened, everything will kick off and then be shut down in six months. Andy2010

3:54pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Apollo says...

He is above criticism in some peoples eye because he appear to be a member of a certain community.

They therefore play the race card as if it is a get out jail free card and anyone else must be a racist by implication.

It is a truly pathetic argument. He is a convicted criminal.
He is above criticism in some peoples eye because he appear to be a member of a certain community. They therefore play the race card as if it is a get out jail free card and anyone else must be a racist by implication. It is a truly pathetic argument. He is a convicted criminal. Apollo

4:28pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
johnh1 wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
peterspan wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.
Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.
5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year.
Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum.
When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down.
I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.
I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me.

If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.
What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments.

Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments.

If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford.

Most of these people need to get a life.

"Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it"

Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.
No its because that story has no detrimental effect on anyone. This story to the local residents does so they are right to challenge the decision.

Also this owner has lied and been prosecuted in the past s therefore the residents have every right to be unhappy.

That's the difference idiot
Obviously there is a difference in the stories you retard. My point is if people have a problem with the Bazaar opening then take it up with the council, and query how they made their decision, instead of having a go at one section of the community. (read through the comments)

Unfortunately bigoted people like yourself, just can't stand anything which is "foreign".
yeah cant stand anything foreign

As I sit at home ordering a curry on my Swedish sofa, watching my Japanese TV , sometimes checking my Korean phone before going shopping in an American supermarket. Also looking forward to booking my holiday in the summer to a Muslim country to soak up the culture and visit some local Muslim sites.

Yes I'm a right bigot !!

People on here including myself would have exactly the same problem is the guy opening this "market" was white and called Brian. It isn't about that its about how the application was granted.

THE CLUE TO THE STORY IS IN THE PUN IN THE HEADLINE.....IDIOT

And by the way seeing as you are saying some posters including myself are "bigots"............


... What colour skin and religion do you think I am ?....are you assuming I'm white?

That would be the BIGOT in you
Touched a nerve I think, so shall I assume you are all for a Bazaar as long as someone with a clean background puts in an application?

Also was anything illegal done by the council by allowing this individual the application? If not, what's the prob, as you say your all for everything foreign.

I couldn't care less what your skin colour is, biggiots come in all colours and sizes
No, even the residents from the SE Asian continent in the area don't want it, it is more to do with high traffic volume and a lack of need. I take it you don't live anywhere near and have no knowledge that there are 3 schools within a quarter of a mile of this building, all of them with an entrance onto the road which exits onto the main road running across the front of this place. It has no on-site parking, the roof parking being in condemned state and therefore any person travelling by car to use the site will by very force of situation cause a traffic blight, danger to pedestrians and road users.

By the way, the lovely Curry Counter which has opened up in the multi-spaced parking precinct, just round the corner is brilliant, I'd recommend anyone not from the area, go try it, loads of room to park and lovely helpful staff and food.
[quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnh1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.[/p][/quote]How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.[/p][/quote]Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.[/p][/quote]5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year. Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum. When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down. I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.[/p][/quote]I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me. If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.[/p][/quote]What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments. Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments. If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford. Most of these people need to get a life. "Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it" Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.[/p][/quote]No its because that story has no detrimental effect on anyone. This story to the local residents does so they are right to challenge the decision. Also this owner has lied and been prosecuted in the past s therefore the residents have every right to be unhappy. That's the difference idiot[/p][/quote]Obviously there is a difference in the stories you retard. My point is if people have a problem with the Bazaar opening then take it up with the council, and query how they made their decision, instead of having a go at one section of the community. (read through the comments) Unfortunately bigoted people like yourself, just can't stand anything which is "foreign".[/p][/quote]yeah cant stand anything foreign As I sit at home ordering a curry on my Swedish sofa, watching my Japanese TV , sometimes checking my Korean phone before going shopping in an American supermarket. Also looking forward to booking my holiday in the summer to a Muslim country to soak up the culture and visit some local Muslim sites. Yes I'm a right bigot !! People on here including myself would have exactly the same problem is the guy opening this "market" was white and called Brian. It isn't about that its about how the application was granted. THE CLUE TO THE STORY IS IN THE PUN IN THE HEADLINE.....IDIOT And by the way seeing as you are saying some posters including myself are "bigots"............ ... What colour skin and religion do you think I am ?....are you assuming I'm white? That would be the BIGOT in you[/p][/quote]Touched a nerve I think, so shall I assume you are all for a Bazaar as long as someone with a clean background puts in an application? Also was anything illegal done by the council by allowing this individual the application? If not, what's the prob, as you say your all for everything foreign. I couldn't care less what your skin colour is, biggiots come in all colours and sizes[/p][/quote]No, even the residents from the SE Asian continent in the area don't want it, it is more to do with high traffic volume and a lack of need. I take it you don't live anywhere near and have no knowledge that there are 3 schools within a quarter of a mile of this building, all of them with an entrance onto the road which exits onto the main road running across the front of this place. It has no on-site parking, the roof parking being in condemned state and therefore any person travelling by car to use the site will by very force of situation cause a traffic blight, danger to pedestrians and road users. By the way, the lovely Curry Counter which has opened up in the multi-spaced parking precinct, just round the corner is brilliant, I'd recommend anyone not from the area, go try it, loads of room to park and lovely helpful staff and food. Prisoner Cell Block A

4:31pm Thu 20 Feb 14

eccythump says...

Here we go again! A mosque in Fagley has been given permission for an extension. They of course had already gone ahead and built it. Why wouldn't they. Seems permission is a forgone conclusion for some. Just like the Girlington take-away that opened for a year without permission, then got retrospective permission. Just like Mr QLM getting his permissions. One law for one part of the community, quite a different law for the others :(
Here we go again! A mosque in Fagley has been given permission for an extension. They of course had already gone ahead and built it. Why wouldn't they. Seems permission is a forgone conclusion for some. Just like the Girlington take-away that opened for a year without permission, then got retrospective permission. Just like Mr QLM getting his permissions. One law for one part of the community, quite a different law for the others :( eccythump

4:33pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Andy2010 wrote:
say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
johnh1 wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
peterspan wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.
Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.
5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year.
Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum.
When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down.
I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.
I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me.

If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.
What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments.

Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments.

If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford.

Most of these people need to get a life.

"Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it"

Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.
No its because that story has no detrimental effect on anyone. This story to the local residents does so they are right to challenge the decision.

Also this owner has lied and been prosecuted in the past s therefore the residents have every right to be unhappy.

That's the difference idiot
Obviously there is a difference in the stories you retard. My point is if people have a problem with the Bazaar opening then take it up with the council, and query how they made their decision, instead of having a go at one section of the community. (read through the comments)

Unfortunately bigoted people like yourself, just can't stand anything which is "foreign".
yeah cant stand anything foreign

As I sit at home ordering a curry on my Swedish sofa, watching my Japanese TV , sometimes checking my Korean phone before going shopping in an American supermarket. Also looking forward to booking my holiday in the summer to a Muslim country to soak up the culture and visit some local Muslim sites.

Yes I'm a right bigot !!

People on here including myself would have exactly the same problem is the guy opening this "market" was white and called Brian. It isn't about that its about how the application was granted.

THE CLUE TO THE STORY IS IN THE PUN IN THE HEADLINE.....IDIOT

And by the way seeing as you are saying some posters including myself are "bigots"............



... What colour skin and religion do you think I am ?....are you assuming I'm white?

That would be the BIGOT in you
Touched a nerve I think, so shall I assume you are all for a Bazaar as long as someone with a clean background puts in an application?

Also was anything illegal done by the council by allowing this individual the application? If not, what's the prob, as you say your all for everything foreign.

I couldn't care less what your skin colour is, biggiots come in all colours and sizes
yes you have really un-nerved me !!

Yes if a person was fit and proper and not a track history of lying and plans were put in place to avoid any traffic and parking problems I dont think anyone would have a problem with this market opening in a disused building.

But THIS person isn't fit and proper and yes you are right in the fact that council should not have granted this permission. Then again though this is Bradford Council

Anyway not to worry as this place will be opened, everything will kick off and then be shut down in six months.
The supermarkets wanting to use a site in Shipley have had to submit multiple plans regarding traffic, new roads, flow impact etc?

How is this any different when it will be accessing a busy road, ie part of the outer ring road and have no site parking?
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnh1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.[/p][/quote]How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.[/p][/quote]Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.[/p][/quote]5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year. Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum. When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down. I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.[/p][/quote]I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me. If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.[/p][/quote]What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments. Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments. If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford. Most of these people need to get a life. "Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it" Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.[/p][/quote]No its because that story has no detrimental effect on anyone. This story to the local residents does so they are right to challenge the decision. Also this owner has lied and been prosecuted in the past s therefore the residents have every right to be unhappy. That's the difference idiot[/p][/quote]Obviously there is a difference in the stories you retard. My point is if people have a problem with the Bazaar opening then take it up with the council, and query how they made their decision, instead of having a go at one section of the community. (read through the comments) Unfortunately bigoted people like yourself, just can't stand anything which is "foreign".[/p][/quote]yeah cant stand anything foreign As I sit at home ordering a curry on my Swedish sofa, watching my Japanese TV , sometimes checking my Korean phone before going shopping in an American supermarket. Also looking forward to booking my holiday in the summer to a Muslim country to soak up the culture and visit some local Muslim sites. Yes I'm a right bigot !! People on here including myself would have exactly the same problem is the guy opening this "market" was white and called Brian. It isn't about that its about how the application was granted. THE CLUE TO THE STORY IS IN THE PUN IN THE HEADLINE.....IDIOT And by the way seeing as you are saying some posters including myself are "bigots"............ ... What colour skin and religion do you think I am ?....are you assuming I'm white? That would be the BIGOT in you[/p][/quote]Touched a nerve I think, so shall I assume you are all for a Bazaar as long as someone with a clean background puts in an application? Also was anything illegal done by the council by allowing this individual the application? If not, what's the prob, as you say your all for everything foreign. I couldn't care less what your skin colour is, biggiots come in all colours and sizes[/p][/quote]yes you have really un-nerved me !! Yes if a person was fit and proper and not a track history of lying and plans were put in place to avoid any traffic and parking problems I dont think anyone would have a problem with this market opening in a disused building. But THIS person isn't fit and proper and yes you are right in the fact that council should not have granted this permission. Then again though this is Bradford Council Anyway not to worry as this place will be opened, everything will kick off and then be shut down in six months.[/p][/quote]The supermarkets wanting to use a site in Shipley have had to submit multiple plans regarding traffic, new roads, flow impact etc? How is this any different when it will be accessing a busy road, ie part of the outer ring road and have no site parking? Prisoner Cell Block A

5:32pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
johnh1 wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
peterspan wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
gracie field wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Avro wrote:
realitystrikesagain wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am
p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st
Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.
Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.
Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.
The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur !
Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred
Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.
How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.
Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.
5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year.
Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum.
When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down.
I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.
I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me.

If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.
What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments.

Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments.

If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford.

Most of these people need to get a life.

"Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it"

Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.
No its because that story has no detrimental effect on anyone. This story to the local residents does so they are right to challenge the decision.

Also this owner has lied and been prosecuted in the past s therefore the residents have every right to be unhappy.

That's the difference idiot
Obviously there is a difference in the stories you retard. My point is if people have a problem with the Bazaar opening then take it up with the council, and query how they made their decision, instead of having a go at one section of the community. (read through the comments)

Unfortunately bigoted people like yourself, just can't stand anything which is "foreign".
yeah cant stand anything foreign

As I sit at home ordering a curry on my Swedish sofa, watching my Japanese TV , sometimes checking my Korean phone before going shopping in an American supermarket. Also looking forward to booking my holiday in the summer to a Muslim country to soak up the culture and visit some local Muslim sites.

Yes I'm a right bigot !!

People on here including myself would have exactly the same problem is the guy opening this "market" was white and called Brian. It isn't about that its about how the application was granted.

THE CLUE TO THE STORY IS IN THE PUN IN THE HEADLINE.....IDIOT

And by the way seeing as you are saying some posters including myself are "bigots"............




... What colour skin and religion do you think I am ?....are you assuming I'm white?

That would be the BIGOT in you
Touched a nerve I think, so shall I assume you are all for a Bazaar as long as someone with a clean background puts in an application?

Also was anything illegal done by the council by allowing this individual the application? If not, what's the prob, as you say your all for everything foreign.

I couldn't care less what your skin colour is, biggiots come in all colours and sizes
yes you have really un-nerved me !!

Yes if a person was fit and proper and not a track history of lying and plans were put in place to avoid any traffic and parking problems I dont think anyone would have a problem with this market opening in a disused building.

But THIS person isn't fit and proper and yes you are right in the fact that council should not have granted this permission. Then again though this is Bradford Council

Anyway not to worry as this place will be opened, everything will kick off and then be shut down in six months.
The supermarkets wanting to use a site in Shipley have had to submit multiple plans regarding traffic, new roads, flow impact etc?

How is this any different when it will be accessing a busy road, ie part of the outer ring road and have no site parking?
It isn't your right and IMO I would rather this "shop" wasn't being set up in the first place
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnh1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peterspan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: I would strongly urge everyone to contact David Ward and ask him to explain why this was granted and justify it https://www.writetot hem.com/write?pc=bd2 2ah&who=46697&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;fyr_ex tref=http%3A%2F%2Fww w.theyworkforyou.com %2Fmp%2F24946%2Fdavi d_ward%2Fbradford_ea st[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Let's all talk to David Ward. He likes talking and does lot of it. Unfortunately much of what he says falls into 2 categories 1- Nothing he ever says makes any sense 2- He doesn't make promises any more. He used to until he accidentally found his party in government and realised that the wild fairytale promises he and his party had been making were suddenly in the spotlight (university fees). Point being that he doesn't help anyone much these days. An occasional press statement covering old news and the occasional rant about car insurance is about his lot. Anyway, back to the story of the day. I hear there will be a discount curry stall there at the new bazaar.[/p][/quote]Not hard to work out that you are a shameful associate of this convicted criminal or connected to this scam.[/p][/quote]Not at all. Your skills of detection have you BARKING up the wrong tree. I have nothing to do with this man nor anything to do with this business. My issue is with people like yourself who spend a lifetime jumping on the backs of anyone or anything positive. Your kind seem to love doom and gloom. You despise anything positive and seem to find solace in failure. You and your kind must be in 2 years of unofficial mourning now that Westfield is going ahead. Take a hint. Take an example from successful and positive stories and it might just inspire you to leave the house some day.[/p][/quote]The fact that you wholeheartedly support a criminal apparently without knowing him really does show us exactly what kind of person you are. Maybe your kind support each other only because they are one of your own kind? Apologists like yourself in many peoples eyes are as bad, if not worse than the criminal himself because they know all the details yet still support the criminal. Too many of your kind seem to get your own way within Bradford Council and I for one smell a dirty big fat rat. I believe someone within our council is corrupt and I bet many people will agree. It is time the government got involved with our council because it is being run by people who seem to believe they are in a backward village in Mipur ![/p][/quote]Now now Mr Elliot. Let's leave Mirpur to its inhabitants. Why are u so irate? You need to calm down or a blood vessel might burst. Now corruption in the council and elected parties!! If my knowledge serves me right, the leader of the council is not Mirpuri, nor are the leaders of the various political parties. I suspect you are an enraged seething racist who isn't getting his way. Oh well, chins up Mr Elliot. It's not about to get any better for the likes of yourself Fred[/p][/quote]Are you unwell my dear? Sorry if you are but you do seem rather confused. Some might think you have a vested interest in this business but my belief is you are just a two bit hanger on because he happens to be one of your "own kind". As for being irate you are very much mistaken I am as calm as a cucumber because your kind don't worry me what so ever my dear man. But I am very very curious about how such a criminal who already owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence managed to get planning permission for this market and I will be asking for this decision and the reasons behind it to be made public and I also want to know who made this decision because i suspect foul play. After all it wouldn't be the first time that saeed stooped to such low levels would it? He has form. I will also make sure that every single time he opens those doors that the amount of traders will be counted and covertly photographed and I will make it my business that this criminal does not get this licence renewed in 6 months. Also each and every trader in there better be above board because the tax man and the benefit office will be sent there regularly to check that no criminals activity is being committed. Not forgetting environmental health for any food stored or sold from this premisses. Lastly every single parking misdemeanour's will be photographed and passed on to the relevant authority. He will not see peace whilst he is there and I am sure that many of the people living in and around that area will agree with my take on it. I know for definite that everyone will be interested to see how the decision was made to give this known liar and criminal a free reign to ride roughshod all over the tax payers of this town yet again.[/p][/quote]How do you know the man still "owes lots of money due to the last time he committed an offence"? Can you please provide some evidence to support your claim? It is my understanding that there were conditions placed upon the fine; he would face an 18 months jail sentence in default: http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10400131.Boss_of_ illegal_market_must_ pay___90_000/?ref=rs s Maybe, just maybe, he has paid his dues and now wants to move on with his business in a legal and legitimate manner, which is what Bradford Council deems his latest venture to be. Please stop your slander and fallacies, and stick to the facts.[/p][/quote]Covert photographer are you Elliot? Sound a little sinister to me, going around taking pictures of the public. I'd be careful, some people might think it's a little like voyeurism and take offence. Seems to me you'll be spending your days standing outside the bazaar. Don't you work? If not shouldn't you be looking for work? You seem a man of many contacts. Why don't you organise a buy out of the site. You know, unfortunate it is that you find time and energy to ridicule others for enterprise and take it upon yourself to be the all singing all dancing saviour of the community. The community needs to put it's own house in order first. Over 25 years ago I attended Eccleshill Upper School in Ravenscliffe. That council estate was a hell hole of a racist sewage tip back then. 25 years later,it's still the same. 25 years ago another community could hardly speak English and worked in mills and factories. 25 Years later that community has grown and progressed and moved forward at surplus have great place that it owns most of the independent pharmacies. Many from that community are doctors, dentists, opticians, solicitors, barristers, probation officers and yes, many are also successful business men and women. The facts speak for themselves. 25 years ago 2 communities on a par, today, one community has far outrun the other in every way imaginable. Whilst your envy may know no bounds. The facts speak for themselves. A member of one community becomes a doctor, a member of the other community becomes his drug addicted patient.[/p][/quote]5000 people live in council property earning over £100,000 a year. Some could be on Ravenscliff. If they are scum at least they are our scum. When doctors went on strik in a plce in America the death rate went down. I dont think any of us scum on the estates were involved.[/p][/quote]I too will be ensuring that parking and driving offences in and around the QLM store are photographed and reported. What goes on inside there is not going to bother me, I can buy cheap tat anywhere in this fair city but as a local and concerned resident the environment surrounding the building does concern me. If this is not concerning then I will have no need to take any actions but considering it is already a nightmare to pass there at certain times of the day I fully imagine there will be issues.[/p][/quote]What a load of crap in most of these comments, full of stereotypical, bigoted comments. Even if it was someone with a clean background who wanted to open the Bazaar, we would have these comments. If you have a problem with the decision, take it up with the council, instead using this story to have a go at the non white people of Bradford. Most of these people need to get a life. "Pork pie and water pistol wedding brawl: Club steward 'had never seen anything like it" Wonder why T&A didn't allow comments on the above article???? Doesn't want to invite comments about all that is wrong with the indigenous population.[/p][/quote]No its because that story has no detrimental effect on anyone. This story to the local residents does so they are right to challenge the decision. Also this owner has lied and been prosecuted in the past s therefore the residents have every right to be unhappy. That's the difference idiot[/p][/quote]Obviously there is a difference in the stories you retard. My point is if people have a problem with the Bazaar opening then take it up with the council, and query how they made their decision, instead of having a go at one section of the community. (read through the comments) Unfortunately bigoted people like yourself, just can't stand anything which is "foreign".[/p][/quote]yeah cant stand anything foreign As I sit at home ordering a curry on my Swedish sofa, watching my Japanese TV , sometimes checking my Korean phone before going shopping in an American supermarket. Also looking forward to booking my holiday in the summer to a Muslim country to soak up the culture and visit some local Muslim sites. Yes I'm a right bigot !! People on here including myself would have exactly the same problem is the guy opening this "market" was white and called Brian. It isn't about that its about how the application was granted. THE CLUE TO THE STORY IS IN THE PUN IN THE HEADLINE.....IDIOT And by the way seeing as you are saying some posters including myself are "bigots"............ ... What colour skin and religion do you think I am ?....are you assuming I'm white? That would be the BIGOT in you[/p][/quote]Touched a nerve I think, so shall I assume you are all for a Bazaar as long as someone with a clean background puts in an application? Also was anything illegal done by the council by allowing this individual the application? If not, what's the prob, as you say your all for everything foreign. I couldn't care less what your skin colour is, biggiots come in all colours and sizes[/p][/quote]yes you have really un-nerved me !! Yes if a person was fit and proper and not a track history of lying and plans were put in place to avoid any traffic and parking problems I dont think anyone would have a problem with this market opening in a disused building. But THIS person isn't fit and proper and yes you are right in the fact that council should not have granted this permission. Then again though this is Bradford Council Anyway not to worry as this place will be opened, everything will kick off and then be shut down in six months.[/p][/quote]The supermarkets wanting to use a site in Shipley have had to submit multiple plans regarding traffic, new roads, flow impact etc? How is this any different when it will be accessing a busy road, ie part of the outer ring road and have no site parking?[/p][/quote]It isn't your right and IMO I would rather this "shop" wasn't being set up in the first place Andy2010

8:35pm Thu 20 Feb 14

say_it_as_it_is says...

eccythump wrote:
Here we go again! A mosque in Fagley has been given permission for an extension. They of course had already gone ahead and built it. Why wouldn't they. Seems permission is a forgone conclusion for some. Just like the Girlington take-away that opened for a year without permission, then got retrospective permission. Just like Mr QLM getting his permissions. One law for one part of the community, quite a different law for the others :(
Any evidence to back up your claim that the council favours one community over another? Or you just having a baseless rant you ignoramus.
[quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: Here we go again! A mosque in Fagley has been given permission for an extension. They of course had already gone ahead and built it. Why wouldn't they. Seems permission is a forgone conclusion for some. Just like the Girlington take-away that opened for a year without permission, then got retrospective permission. Just like Mr QLM getting his permissions. One law for one part of the community, quite a different law for the others :([/p][/quote]Any evidence to back up your claim that the council favours one community over another? Or you just having a baseless rant you ignoramus. say_it_as_it_is

9:13am Fri 21 Feb 14

privatemartin says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down.
Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum.
Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.
Defence is spelt defence. Not defense. Someone been skipping school??
Defence and defense are different spellings of the same word. Defense is preferred in American English, and defence is preferred in all other main varieties of English, including Australian, British, and Canadian English. The spelling distinction extends to most derivatives of defence/defense, including defences/defenses and defenceless/defensel
ess. But the words defensive, defensiveness, and defensively have an s everywhere.

Though defense is now the American spelling, it is not American in origin. The OED and Google Books reveal examples of the spelling from as long ago as the 1300s, many centuries before the United States existed. That spelling continued to appear a fraction of the time through the 19th century, when it was taken up by American writers. Today, to the chagrin of those who dislike American English, the spelling is gaining ground throughout the English-speaking world.
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down. Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum. Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.[/p][/quote]Defence is spelt defence. Not defense. Someone been skipping school??[/p][/quote]Defence and defense are different spellings of the same word. Defense is preferred in American English, and defence is preferred in all other main varieties of English, including Australian, British, and Canadian English. The spelling distinction extends to most derivatives of defence/defense, including defences/defenses and defenceless/defensel ess. But the words defensive, defensiveness, and defensively have an s everywhere. Though defense is now the American spelling, it is not American in origin. The OED and Google Books reveal examples of the spelling from as long ago as the 1300s, many centuries before the United States existed. That spelling continued to appear a fraction of the time through the 19th century, when it was taken up by American writers. Today, to the chagrin of those who dislike American English, the spelling is gaining ground throughout the English-speaking world. privatemartin

9:16am Fri 21 Feb 14

Apollo says...

say_it_as_it_is wrote:
eccythump wrote: Here we go again! A mosque in Fagley has been given permission for an extension. They of course had already gone ahead and built it. Why wouldn't they. Seems permission is a forgone conclusion for some. Just like the Girlington take-away that opened for a year without permission, then got retrospective permission. Just like Mr QLM getting his permissions. One law for one part of the community, quite a different law for the others :(
Any evidence to back up your claim that the council favours one community over another? Or you just having a baseless rant you ignoramus.
He gives 2 clear examples. The granting of permission to a convicted criminal is another.
[quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: Here we go again! A mosque in Fagley has been given permission for an extension. They of course had already gone ahead and built it. Why wouldn't they. Seems permission is a forgone conclusion for some. Just like the Girlington take-away that opened for a year without permission, then got retrospective permission. Just like Mr QLM getting his permissions. One law for one part of the community, quite a different law for the others :([/p][/quote]Any evidence to back up your claim that the council favours one community over another? Or you just having a baseless rant you ignoramus.[/p][/quote]He gives 2 clear examples. The granting of permission to a convicted criminal is another. Apollo

11:08am Fri 21 Feb 14

say_it_as_it_is says...

Apollo wrote:
say_it_as_it_is wrote:
eccythump wrote: Here we go again! A mosque in Fagley has been given permission for an extension. They of course had already gone ahead and built it. Why wouldn't they. Seems permission is a forgone conclusion for some. Just like the Girlington take-away that opened for a year without permission, then got retrospective permission. Just like Mr QLM getting his permissions. One law for one part of the community, quite a different law for the others :(
Any evidence to back up your claim that the council favours one community over another? Or you just having a baseless rant you ignoramus.
He gives 2 clear examples. The granting of permission to a convicted criminal is another.
None of those examples prove his point about the council favouring one community over another, you idiot,
[quote][p][bold]Apollo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: Here we go again! A mosque in Fagley has been given permission for an extension. They of course had already gone ahead and built it. Why wouldn't they. Seems permission is a forgone conclusion for some. Just like the Girlington take-away that opened for a year without permission, then got retrospective permission. Just like Mr QLM getting his permissions. One law for one part of the community, quite a different law for the others :([/p][/quote]Any evidence to back up your claim that the council favours one community over another? Or you just having a baseless rant you ignoramus.[/p][/quote]He gives 2 clear examples. The granting of permission to a convicted criminal is another.[/p][/quote]None of those examples prove his point about the council favouring one community over another, you idiot, say_it_as_it_is

11:33am Fri 21 Feb 14

Apollo says...

say_it_as_it_is wrote:
Apollo wrote:
say_it_as_it_is wrote:
eccythump wrote: Here we go again! A mosque in Fagley has been given permission for an extension. They of course had already gone ahead and built it. Why wouldn't they. Seems permission is a forgone conclusion for some. Just like the Girlington take-away that opened for a year without permission, then got retrospective permission. Just like Mr QLM getting his permissions. One law for one part of the community, quite a different law for the others :(
Any evidence to back up your claim that the council favours one community over another? Or you just having a baseless rant you ignoramus.
He gives 2 clear examples. The granting of permission to a convicted criminal is another.
None of those examples prove his point about the council favouring one community over another, you idiot,
Calling me names will not get over the fact that both of the examples cited go towards proving the point.

For someone with 'say it as it is' as his nick you appear not to like it when someone does just that and you happen to disagree with them.

The practice of one community constantly proceeding with buildings, shops or alterations without planning permission and then gaining it on a retrospective application is clearly one which the majority feel favours that community to the detriment of others.
[quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Apollo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]say_it_as_it_is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: Here we go again! A mosque in Fagley has been given permission for an extension. They of course had already gone ahead and built it. Why wouldn't they. Seems permission is a forgone conclusion for some. Just like the Girlington take-away that opened for a year without permission, then got retrospective permission. Just like Mr QLM getting his permissions. One law for one part of the community, quite a different law for the others :([/p][/quote]Any evidence to back up your claim that the council favours one community over another? Or you just having a baseless rant you ignoramus.[/p][/quote]He gives 2 clear examples. The granting of permission to a convicted criminal is another.[/p][/quote]None of those examples prove his point about the council favouring one community over another, you idiot,[/p][/quote]Calling me names will not get over the fact that both of the examples cited go towards proving the point. For someone with 'say it as it is' as his nick you appear not to like it when someone does just that and you happen to disagree with them. The practice of one community constantly proceeding with buildings, shops or alterations without planning permission and then gaining it on a retrospective application is clearly one which the majority feel favours that community to the detriment of others. Apollo

4:28pm Fri 21 Feb 14

medusa36 says...

WOW!! its taken me ages to read all these comment!!!! I think Bradford has enough Asian Bazaars, and as for Bradford council less said there the better!!!! hopefully this 'Bazaar' will be just as rubbish as all the others!! HOPEFULLY!!!
WOW!! its taken me ages to read all these comment!!!! I think Bradford has enough Asian Bazaars, and as for Bradford council less said there the better!!!! hopefully this 'Bazaar' will be just as rubbish as all the others!! HOPEFULLY!!! medusa36

8:43am Sun 23 Feb 14

schroeder says...

realitystrikesagain wrote:
What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are.

This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car.

Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model.

Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)
WELL SAID!!!
[quote][p][bold]realitystrikesagain[/bold] wrote: What a sorry, sad, unfortunate, envious, unambitious lot you are. This man has the drive and ambition to do something with his life and all you appear to want to do is drag him down to acts such as dog walking, beer drinking, fighting over footy colours, lottery playing with your last £1 of the week and defaulting on payment for the latest and newest financed car. Goodness me. If the 'immigrants' sign on they're sponging off the state and if they work work work themselves to success it's a case of how dare they. Don't you get it, that 'bazaar' was a contravention of council rules. A civil dispute that's been dealt with. This 'bazaar' is as legitimate as they go unless rules are flouted. Until and if rules are flouted there is a well thought out successful business model. Point is just cos you don't have one, doesn't mean the 'immigrants' shouldn't aspire to one( a successful life)[/p][/quote]WELL SAID!!! schroeder

9:08am Sun 23 Feb 14

schroeder says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down.
Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum.
Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.
You and everybody else reading this knows very well there's a racial element to this thread.

This continuing story wouldn't be getting so much attention and causing so much anger if the person wasn't Asian and running an Asian business.

If he was a white British guy who ran a popular fish and chip shop in Haworth without the right licence, the council would be the bad guys for shutting his business down when he was creating jobs and contributing to the economy.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down. Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum. Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.[/p][/quote]You and everybody else reading this knows very well there's a racial element to this thread. This continuing story wouldn't be getting so much attention and causing so much anger if the person wasn't Asian and running an Asian business. If he was a white British guy who ran a popular fish and chip shop in Haworth without the right licence, the council would be the bad guys for shutting his business down when he was creating jobs and contributing to the economy. schroeder

10:17am Sun 23 Feb 14

Albion. says...

schroeder wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down.
Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum.
Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.
You and everybody else reading this knows very well there's a racial element to this thread.

This continuing story wouldn't be getting so much attention and causing so much anger if the person wasn't Asian and running an Asian business.

If he was a white British guy who ran a popular fish and chip shop in Haworth without the right licence, the council would be the bad guys for shutting his business down when he was creating jobs and contributing to the economy.
Irrespective of your assumptions, he does have a record for business malpractice and downright cheating. You can find the necessary links to his past dealings already posted on here.
[quote][p][bold]schroeder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down. Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum. Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.[/p][/quote]You and everybody else reading this knows very well there's a racial element to this thread. This continuing story wouldn't be getting so much attention and causing so much anger if the person wasn't Asian and running an Asian business. If he was a white British guy who ran a popular fish and chip shop in Haworth without the right licence, the council would be the bad guys for shutting his business down when he was creating jobs and contributing to the economy.[/p][/quote]Irrespective of your assumptions, he does have a record for business malpractice and downright cheating. You can find the necessary links to his past dealings already posted on here. Albion.

8:56am Mon 24 Feb 14

Apollo says...

schroeder wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down. Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum. Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.
You and everybody else reading this knows very well there's a racial element to this thread. This continuing story wouldn't be getting so much attention and causing so much anger if the person wasn't Asian and running an Asian business. If he was a white British guy who ran a popular fish and chip shop in Haworth without the right licence, the council would be the bad guys for shutting his business down when he was creating jobs and contributing to the economy.
That's, in part, the point. The Council in that case would be shutting him down and not entertaining a retrospective planning application like it does from so many minority applicants.

The reason this story has got so much attention is because this person has clearly shown himself to be unfit to trade in Bradford whatever his background and it would be exactly the same as if he were white which is highly unlikely as it would not have taken the Council over 2 years to close him down if he did not have friends on the same Council.
[quote][p][bold]schroeder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Realitystrikesagain doing his best to add a racial element to the thread in order to get it pulled and comments locked down. Standard defense that is seen far too often on the forum part of this forum. Lies in his application, form with regards to illegal trading, massive public opposition. Licence granted. Serious questions need answering by the council not some faceless person handing out a licence with no comeback.[/p][/quote]You and everybody else reading this knows very well there's a racial element to this thread. This continuing story wouldn't be getting so much attention and causing so much anger if the person wasn't Asian and running an Asian business. If he was a white British guy who ran a popular fish and chip shop in Haworth without the right licence, the council would be the bad guys for shutting his business down when he was creating jobs and contributing to the economy.[/p][/quote]That's, in part, the point. The Council in that case would be shutting him down and not entertaining a retrospective planning application like it does from so many minority applicants. The reason this story has got so much attention is because this person has clearly shown himself to be unfit to trade in Bradford whatever his background and it would be exactly the same as if he were white which is highly unlikely as it would not have taken the Council over 2 years to close him down if he did not have friends on the same Council. Apollo

Comments are closed on this article.

click2find

About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree