Allerton dad asks: "How long does it take to mend a fence?"

CONCERN: Robert Whitford and his son Codie, three, pictured at their home in Allerton next to a broken fence

CONCERN: Robert Whitford and his son Codie, three, pictured at their home in Allerton next to a broken fence

First published in News

A father has criticised his landlord for taking weeks to repair a garden fence he claims has become a danger to his four young children.

Robert Whitford, 39, has become involved in a long-running battle with social housing group Incommunities over damage to his back garden in Upper Grange Avenue, Allerton, Bradford.

Mr Whitford, who shares the house with partner Ruby Atter and their four children, all aged five or under, said the garden is unsafe for his children to play in until the fence is repaired, but Incommunities said the work has been delayed since early December by “difficult” weather conditions.

“They keep saying that this work will be done at some point, but never when,” said Mr Whitford. “I have been told that if we needed the work doing that urgently, we’d have to do it ourselves.

“I was also told that we’re not a priority, as we don’t live on a busy or dangerous road and my children have a front garden they can safely play in.”

Damage to the fence, which Incommunities confirm was first reported on December 5 last year, has left a gap on to open grassland at the back of the garden, and also allowed access to a neighbouring back yard, which Mr Whitford said contains a broken manhole cover that could cause injury to his children.

“Our neighbours have been complaining to us about the mess, but its the children’s safety that’s the main thing,” he said. “We can’t allow them out there at the moment as it’s just too dangerous. I’m not sure if and when this work will ever get done, but it is Incommunities’ responsibility to get it sorted. It’s gone on too long now, it’s beyond a joke.”

A spokesman for Incommunities, which manages 22,500 rented and leasehold homes across the Bradford district, said one of the firm’s joiners had visited the property on December 13 to make the fencing safe, before returning on January 21 to measure up and order materials for the necessary repair work.

After originally stating the work would be completed by the end of January, there was then another delay, prompting Mr Whitford to take further action.

“Due to the difficult weather conditions last week it was unfortunately not possible to carry out the necessary ground work to secure the fencing, which had been our intention,” said the spokesman.

“We can confirm that we are starting to carry out the necessary repair and replacement work at the rear of the property next week, and weather permitting, the fencing will be completed within that week.”

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9:52am Fri 7 Feb 14

BungleMagic says...

Slow News day again.

Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden.

A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old.

Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.
Slow News day again. Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden. A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old. Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else. BungleMagic
  • Score: 46

10:12am Fri 7 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

BungleMagic wrote:
Slow News day again.

Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden.

A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old.

Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.
Well said.

I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much
[quote][p][bold]BungleMagic[/bold] wrote: Slow News day again. Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden. A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old. Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.[/p][/quote]Well said. I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much Andy2010
  • Score: 44

10:25am Fri 7 Feb 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Andy2010 wrote:
BungleMagic wrote: Slow News day again. Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden. A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old. Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.
Well said. I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much
Why should he? He's not responsible for the safety of his own children, Incommunities are. Sure, he could fix it himself but that would require taking responsibilty for yourself and a bit of effort.
Much better to **** about it to the local paper than spend half an hour fixing it.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BungleMagic[/bold] wrote: Slow News day again. Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden. A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old. Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.[/p][/quote]Well said. I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much[/p][/quote]Why should he? He's not responsible for the safety of his own children, Incommunities are. Sure, he could fix it himself but that would require taking responsibilty for yourself and a bit of effort. Much better to **** about it to the local paper than spend half an hour fixing it. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 24

10:31am Fri 7 Feb 14

Albion. says...

What a pathetic **** he is.
What a pathetic **** he is. Albion.
  • Score: 28

10:42am Fri 7 Feb 14

Apollo says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
BungleMagic wrote: Slow News day again. Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden. A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old. Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.
Well said. I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much
Why should he? He's not responsible for the safety of his own children, Incommunities are. Sure, he could fix it himself but that would require taking responsibilty for yourself and a bit of effort. Much better to **** about it to the local paper than spend half an hour fixing it.
Completely agree that he is entirely responsible for the safety of his own children.

The fence would take him perhaps half an hour to repair rather than standing around with his hands in his pockets posing for photographs.

Get off your lazy ar$e and get a hammer and a few nails.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BungleMagic[/bold] wrote: Slow News day again. Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden. A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old. Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.[/p][/quote]Well said. I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much[/p][/quote]Why should he? He's not responsible for the safety of his own children, Incommunities are. Sure, he could fix it himself but that would require taking responsibilty for yourself and a bit of effort. Much better to **** about it to the local paper than spend half an hour fixing it.[/p][/quote]Completely agree that he is entirely responsible for the safety of his own children. The fence would take him perhaps half an hour to repair rather than standing around with his hands in his pockets posing for photographs. Get off your lazy ar$e and get a hammer and a few nails. Apollo
  • Score: 33

11:44am Fri 7 Feb 14

eccythump says...

I live in an Incommunities property, I have always maintained my own fences. I have spent hundreds of pounds doing so, for the protection of my animals, Dog and Cat. What is his problem? Spending too much time breeding the children, no time actually doing anything to ensure their safety. Man up.
I live in an Incommunities property, I have always maintained my own fences. I have spent hundreds of pounds doing so, for the protection of my animals, Dog and Cat. What is his problem? Spending too much time breeding the children, no time actually doing anything to ensure their safety. Man up. eccythump
  • Score: 36

12:07pm Fri 7 Feb 14

bd7 helper says...

It all about been lazy lazy just be useful and clear it up
It all about been lazy lazy just be useful and clear it up bd7 helper
  • Score: 18

12:29pm Fri 7 Feb 14

alive and awake says...

Sounds like the broken man hole cover should be attended to as a matter of urgency, has anybody reported it? Chance for another photo with all the family looking at it with a sad look on all their faces.
T&A you do report some tripe, and fail to see the big issues under your nose.
Sounds like the broken man hole cover should be attended to as a matter of urgency, has anybody reported it? Chance for another photo with all the family looking at it with a sad look on all their faces. T&A you do report some tripe, and fail to see the big issues under your nose. alive and awake
  • Score: 19

12:39pm Fri 7 Feb 14

gracie field says...

Hang on a minute if the weather prevented Incommunities doing a repair then surly it would be too difficult for someone untrained to do it too? Also maybe he cant afford the material for the repair.What a load of prejudiced tosspots you lot above really are! You know nothing about this guy and you have labeled him workless and work-shy. Typical Tory trolls. Your the sort to vote Tory just to spite the poorest in society and then when you need help yourselves would be kicking up a fuss because you have no human rights left! Thick as the proverbial the lot of you.
Hang on a minute if the weather prevented Incommunities doing a repair then surly it would be too difficult for someone untrained to do it too? Also maybe he cant afford the material for the repair.What a load of prejudiced tosspots you lot above really are! You know nothing about this guy and you have labeled him workless and work-shy. Typical Tory trolls. Your the sort to vote Tory just to spite the poorest in society and then when you need help yourselves would be kicking up a fuss because you have no human rights left! Thick as the proverbial the lot of you. gracie field
  • Score: -33

12:53pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

gracie field wrote:
Hang on a minute if the weather prevented Incommunities doing a repair then surly it would be too difficult for someone untrained to do it too? Also maybe he cant afford the material for the repair.What a load of prejudiced tosspots you lot above really are! You know nothing about this guy and you have labeled him workless and work-shy. Typical Tory trolls. Your the sort to vote Tory just to spite the poorest in society and then when you need help yourselves would be kicking up a fuss because you have no human rights left! Thick as the proverbial the lot of you.
LOL how can this be turned around to the Tories fault.

Sorry but if cant afford a pack of nails (he could borrow a hammer) to make simple repairs until sorted properly maybe this workshy layabout should stop breeding
[quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: Hang on a minute if the weather prevented Incommunities doing a repair then surly it would be too difficult for someone untrained to do it too? Also maybe he cant afford the material for the repair.What a load of prejudiced tosspots you lot above really are! You know nothing about this guy and you have labeled him workless and work-shy. Typical Tory trolls. Your the sort to vote Tory just to spite the poorest in society and then when you need help yourselves would be kicking up a fuss because you have no human rights left! Thick as the proverbial the lot of you.[/p][/quote]LOL how can this be turned around to the Tories fault. Sorry but if cant afford a pack of nails (he could borrow a hammer) to make simple repairs until sorted properly maybe this workshy layabout should stop breeding Andy2010
  • Score: 22

12:59pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Farsley Bantam says...

gracie field wrote:
Hang on a minute if the weather prevented Incommunities doing a repair then surly it would be too difficult for someone untrained to do it too? Also maybe he cant afford the material for the repair.What a load of prejudiced tosspots you lot above really are! You know nothing about this guy and you have labeled him workless and work-shy. Typical Tory trolls. Your the sort to vote Tory just to spite the poorest in society and then when you need help yourselves would be kicking up a fuss because you have no human rights left! Thick as the proverbial the lot of you.
The fence blew down on December the 5th. Are you trying to tell me in the 2 month since there hasn't been a single period of weather that would allow for him to fix the fence? I live about 3 miles from there and I can say for certain that there has been countless days of suitable weather. Unless Upper Grange Avenue has a micro climate that I am unaware of he has had ample opportunity to fix it. Look outside today in fact - it's calm and sunny!
He could patch that fence up until 'The professionals' come and fix it for less than £5.
[quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: Hang on a minute if the weather prevented Incommunities doing a repair then surly it would be too difficult for someone untrained to do it too? Also maybe he cant afford the material for the repair.What a load of prejudiced tosspots you lot above really are! You know nothing about this guy and you have labeled him workless and work-shy. Typical Tory trolls. Your the sort to vote Tory just to spite the poorest in society and then when you need help yourselves would be kicking up a fuss because you have no human rights left! Thick as the proverbial the lot of you.[/p][/quote]The fence blew down on December the 5th. Are you trying to tell me in the 2 month since there hasn't been a single period of weather that would allow for him to fix the fence? I live about 3 miles from there and I can say for certain that there has been countless days of suitable weather. Unless Upper Grange Avenue has a micro climate that I am unaware of he has had ample opportunity to fix it. Look outside today in fact - it's calm and sunny! He could patch that fence up until 'The professionals' come and fix it for less than £5. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 16

1:00pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Cooperlane2 says...

tbh this wouldn't rate high on the list of prioritising jobs.
It would take more than a few nails to repair and probably requires power tools to rip out old concreted-in posts. He's right to expect the landlord to effect repairs, but hardly the end of the world.
tbh this wouldn't rate high on the list of prioritising jobs. It would take more than a few nails to repair and probably requires power tools to rip out old concreted-in posts. He's right to expect the landlord to effect repairs, but hardly the end of the world. Cooperlane2
  • Score: 5

1:09pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

Cooperlane2 wrote:
tbh this wouldn't rate high on the list of prioritising jobs.
It would take more than a few nails to repair and probably requires power tools to rip out old concreted-in posts. He's right to expect the landlord to effect repairs, but hardly the end of the world.
No one is suggesting he totally fix it himself. Theres nothing stopping him quickly repairing it to make safe though.

If then fences were downed on December the 5th why are they still lying there? Couldn't they be moved ?

This is just plain laziness by a workshy scrounger and typical of the benefits society expecting everything done for them.

The bloke couldn't even be bothered making himself respectable for a picture that appears in the paper so there's no hope really is there
[quote][p][bold]Cooperlane2[/bold] wrote: tbh this wouldn't rate high on the list of prioritising jobs. It would take more than a few nails to repair and probably requires power tools to rip out old concreted-in posts. He's right to expect the landlord to effect repairs, but hardly the end of the world.[/p][/quote]No one is suggesting he totally fix it himself. Theres nothing stopping him quickly repairing it to make safe though. If then fences were downed on December the 5th why are they still lying there? Couldn't they be moved ? This is just plain laziness by a workshy scrounger and typical of the benefits society expecting everything done for them. The bloke couldn't even be bothered making himself respectable for a picture that appears in the paper so there's no hope really is there Andy2010
  • Score: 12

2:49pm Fri 7 Feb 14

recessionbites says...

Lazy begger! If he is that worried for his childrens safety he could do the work himself, but if hes that stupid he would allow them to play out in the weather we have suffered he needs help.

Yes its his landlords responsibility to repair things but there are priorities and fencing in the middle of terrible weather is not one!!
Lazy begger! If he is that worried for his childrens safety he could do the work himself, but if hes that stupid he would allow them to play out in the weather we have suffered he needs help. Yes its his landlords responsibility to repair things but there are priorities and fencing in the middle of terrible weather is not one!! recessionbites
  • Score: 10

3:34pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Denholmelass says...

Andy2010 wrote:
BungleMagic wrote:
Slow News day again.

Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden.

A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old.

Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.
Well said.

I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much
Some people just think it's all about them.Does Mr Whitford think he is the only person waiting for repairs?. And yes it would surprise me if he did go out to work, 4 children under 5 years old. I agree he should either let the children out to play in the front garden and watching them or even take them to the park.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BungleMagic[/bold] wrote: Slow News day again. Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden. A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old. Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.[/p][/quote]Well said. I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much[/p][/quote]Some people just think it's all about them.Does Mr Whitford think he is the only person waiting for repairs?. And yes it would surprise me if he did go out to work, 4 children under 5 years old. I agree he should either let the children out to play in the front garden and watching them or even take them to the park. Denholmelass
  • Score: 8

3:42pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Denholmelass says...

Andy2010 wrote:
BungleMagic wrote:
Slow News day again.

Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden.

A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old.

Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.
Well said.

I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much
Some people just think it's all about them.Does Mr Whitford think he is the only person waiting for repairs?. And yes it would surprise me if he did go out to work, 4 children under 5 years old. I agree he should either let the children out to play in the front garden and watching them or even take them to the park.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BungleMagic[/bold] wrote: Slow News day again. Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden. A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old. Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.[/p][/quote]Well said. I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much[/p][/quote]Some people just think it's all about them.Does Mr Whitford think he is the only person waiting for repairs?. And yes it would surprise me if he did go out to work, 4 children under 5 years old. I agree he should either let the children out to play in the front garden and watching them or even take them to the park. Denholmelass
  • Score: 3

3:57pm Fri 7 Feb 14

allinittogether says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Cooperlane2 wrote:
tbh this wouldn't rate high on the list of prioritising jobs.
It would take more than a few nails to repair and probably requires power tools to rip out old concreted-in posts. He's right to expect the landlord to effect repairs, but hardly the end of the world.
No one is suggesting he totally fix it himself. Theres nothing stopping him quickly repairing it to make safe though.

If then fences were downed on December the 5th why are they still lying there? Couldn't they be moved ?

This is just plain laziness by a workshy scrounger and typical of the benefits society expecting everything done for them.

The bloke couldn't even be bothered making himself respectable for a picture that appears in the paper so there's no hope really is there
You're not some Tory spin doctor in your spare time are you Andy. There is no mention of this chap being out of work and on benefits in the report.
YOU inferred it in the second comment and call him workshy & lazy in subsequent comments, it then takes on a life of it's own.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cooperlane2[/bold] wrote: tbh this wouldn't rate high on the list of prioritising jobs. It would take more than a few nails to repair and probably requires power tools to rip out old concreted-in posts. He's right to expect the landlord to effect repairs, but hardly the end of the world.[/p][/quote]No one is suggesting he totally fix it himself. Theres nothing stopping him quickly repairing it to make safe though. If then fences were downed on December the 5th why are they still lying there? Couldn't they be moved ? This is just plain laziness by a workshy scrounger and typical of the benefits society expecting everything done for them. The bloke couldn't even be bothered making himself respectable for a picture that appears in the paper so there's no hope really is there[/p][/quote]You're not some Tory spin doctor in your spare time are you Andy. There is no mention of this chap being out of work and on benefits in the report. YOU inferred it in the second comment and call him workshy & lazy in subsequent comments, it then takes on a life of it's own. allinittogether
  • Score: -1

3:57pm Fri 7 Feb 14

RollandSmoke says...

How many of you pay for services that you then do yourself? If there is a tenancy agreement in which incommunities state that they are responsible for such repairs then why should this man, or anyone else for that matter, do the repairs themselves and let their landlord off of their contractual obligations? If he were to attempt the repairs himself and botch the job then the landlord may even take action against him. Sure he may attempt the job out of convenience but it is not his responsibility. If incommunities do not have enough staff to cover the number of repairs that are outstanding then I believe there are a vast number of unemployed in Bradford who would jump at the chance of a job.
How many of you pay for services that you then do yourself? If there is a tenancy agreement in which incommunities state that they are responsible for such repairs then why should this man, or anyone else for that matter, do the repairs themselves and let their landlord off of their contractual obligations? If he were to attempt the repairs himself and botch the job then the landlord may even take action against him. Sure he may attempt the job out of convenience but it is not his responsibility. If incommunities do not have enough staff to cover the number of repairs that are outstanding then I believe there are a vast number of unemployed in Bradford who would jump at the chance of a job. RollandSmoke
  • Score: 3

4:08pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Avenger78 says...

Am i missing something?.. how does every one no hes jobless? or is every one just making him look like a fool because he dosnt no how to fix a fence
Am i missing something?.. how does every one no hes jobless? or is every one just making him look like a fool because he dosnt no how to fix a fence Avenger78
  • Score: 3

4:14pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

allinittogether wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Cooperlane2 wrote:
tbh this wouldn't rate high on the list of prioritising jobs.
It would take more than a few nails to repair and probably requires power tools to rip out old concreted-in posts. He's right to expect the landlord to effect repairs, but hardly the end of the world.
No one is suggesting he totally fix it himself. Theres nothing stopping him quickly repairing it to make safe though.

If then fences were downed on December the 5th why are they still lying there? Couldn't they be moved ?

This is just plain laziness by a workshy scrounger and typical of the benefits society expecting everything done for them.

The bloke couldn't even be bothered making himself respectable for a picture that appears in the paper so there's no hope really is there
You're not some Tory spin doctor in your spare time are you Andy. There is no mention of this chap being out of work and on benefits in the report.
YOU inferred it in the second comment and call him workshy & lazy in subsequent comments, it then takes on a life of it's own.
True there is no mention of his job standing but working on assumptions.

Once again I ask what have the Tories got anything to do with this story?

4 Children under 5 and living in an Incommunities property I would take a bet from you he's unemployed. Coupled with the FACT he could made remedial repairs to his own property but doesnt for some reason

I maybe wrong but bet I arent
[quote][p][bold]allinittogether[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cooperlane2[/bold] wrote: tbh this wouldn't rate high on the list of prioritising jobs. It would take more than a few nails to repair and probably requires power tools to rip out old concreted-in posts. He's right to expect the landlord to effect repairs, but hardly the end of the world.[/p][/quote]No one is suggesting he totally fix it himself. Theres nothing stopping him quickly repairing it to make safe though. If then fences were downed on December the 5th why are they still lying there? Couldn't they be moved ? This is just plain laziness by a workshy scrounger and typical of the benefits society expecting everything done for them. The bloke couldn't even be bothered making himself respectable for a picture that appears in the paper so there's no hope really is there[/p][/quote]You're not some Tory spin doctor in your spare time are you Andy. There is no mention of this chap being out of work and on benefits in the report. YOU inferred it in the second comment and call him workshy & lazy in subsequent comments, it then takes on a life of it's own.[/p][/quote]True there is no mention of his job standing but working on assumptions. Once again I ask what have the Tories got anything to do with this story? 4 Children under 5 and living in an Incommunities property I would take a bet from you he's unemployed. Coupled with the FACT he could made remedial repairs to his own property but doesnt for some reason I maybe wrong but bet I arent Andy2010
  • Score: 8

4:31pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Old Peculiar says...

Maybe he's hoping for a bit of compo, for emotional stress caused by the damaged fence.
I reckon Claims Direct would take the case on. And if they take it, he'll get £500 up front !!!! winner winner chicken dinner !!
Maybe he's hoping for a bit of compo, for emotional stress caused by the damaged fence. I reckon Claims Direct would take the case on. And if they take it, he'll get £500 up front !!!! winner winner chicken dinner !! Old Peculiar
  • Score: 8

4:36pm Fri 7 Feb 14

bobwhitford says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
BungleMagic wrote: Slow News day again. Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden. A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old. Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.
Well said. I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much
Why should he? He's not responsible for the safety of his own children, Incommunities are. Sure, he could fix it himself but that would require taking responsibilty for yourself and a bit of effort.
Much better to **** about it to the local paper than spend half an hour fixing it.
when I moved into my house I did not have a garden fence running down the right hand side of my back garden, this was 4 yrs ago,.i did try fixing the fence but due to the fact in not a joiner I shouldn't be fixing anyone's fence in the first place due to safety reasons. this is not my issue. my issue is now my full back garden fence as now come down leaving 70% of my back garden exposed, the photo u are seeing in paper is not the full picture of my garden, and as for me not watching my kids I do, that's why none of them have been injured, what about all the rubbish, stray dogs, people cutting through my garden using it has a shortcut, u would be saying something different if it was your garden fence
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BungleMagic[/bold] wrote: Slow News day again. Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden. A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old. Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.[/p][/quote]Well said. I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much[/p][/quote]Why should he? He's not responsible for the safety of his own children, Incommunities are. Sure, he could fix it himself but that would require taking responsibilty for yourself and a bit of effort. Much better to **** about it to the local paper than spend half an hour fixing it.[/p][/quote]when I moved into my house I did not have a garden fence running down the right hand side of my back garden, this was 4 yrs ago,.i did try fixing the fence but due to the fact in not a joiner I shouldn't be fixing anyone's fence in the first place due to safety reasons. this is not my issue. my issue is now my full back garden fence as now come down leaving 70% of my back garden exposed, the photo u are seeing in paper is not the full picture of my garden, and as for me not watching my kids I do, that's why none of them have been injured, what about all the rubbish, stray dogs, people cutting through my garden using it has a shortcut, u would be saying something different if it was your garden fence bobwhitford
  • Score: -3

4:43pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

bobwhitford wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
BungleMagic wrote: Slow News day again. Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden. A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old. Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.
Well said. I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much
Why should he? He's not responsible for the safety of his own children, Incommunities are. Sure, he could fix it himself but that would require taking responsibilty for yourself and a bit of effort.
Much better to **** about it to the local paper than spend half an hour fixing it.
when I moved into my house I did not have a garden fence running down the right hand side of my back garden, this was 4 yrs ago,.i did try fixing the fence but due to the fact in not a joiner I shouldn't be fixing anyone's fence in the first place due to safety reasons. this is not my issue. my issue is now my full back garden fence as now come down leaving 70% of my back garden exposed, the photo u are seeing in paper is not the full picture of my garden, and as for me not watching my kids I do, that's why none of them have been injured, what about all the rubbish, stray dogs, people cutting through my garden using it has a shortcut, u would be saying something different if it was your garden fence
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[quote][p][bold]bobwhitford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BungleMagic[/bold] wrote: Slow News day again. Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden. A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old. Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.[/p][/quote]Well said. I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much[/p][/quote]Why should he? He's not responsible for the safety of his own children, Incommunities are. Sure, he could fix it himself but that would require taking responsibilty for yourself and a bit of effort. Much better to **** about it to the local paper than spend half an hour fixing it.[/p][/quote]when I moved into my house I did not have a garden fence running down the right hand side of my back garden, this was 4 yrs ago,.i did try fixing the fence but due to the fact in not a joiner I shouldn't be fixing anyone's fence in the first place due to safety reasons. this is not my issue. my issue is now my full back garden fence as now come down leaving 70% of my back garden exposed, the photo u are seeing in paper is not the full picture of my garden, and as for me not watching my kids I do, that's why none of them have been injured, what about all the rubbish, stray dogs, people cutting through my garden using it has a shortcut, u would be saying something different if it was your garden fence[/p][/quote]http://search.wickes .co.uk/search#ts=aja x&method=and&w=nails &isort=score http://search.wickes .co.uk/search#w=hamm er&asug= SORTED !!! Andy2010
  • Score: 10

4:44pm Fri 7 Feb 14

bobwhitford says...

Denholmelass wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
BungleMagic wrote:
Slow News day again.

Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden.

A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old.

Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.
Well said.

I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much
Some people just think it's all about them.Does Mr Whitford think he is the only person waiting for repairs?. And yes it would surprise me if he did go out to work, 4 children under 5 years old. I agree he should either let the children out to play in the front garden and watching them or even take them to the park.
when I moved into my house I did not have a garden fence running down the right hand side of my back garden, this was 4 yrs ago,.i did try fixing the fence but due to the fact in not a joiner I shouldn't be fixing anyone's fence in the first place due to safety reasons. this is not my issue. my issue is now my full back garden fence as now come down leaving 70% of my back garden exposed, the photo u are seeing in paper is not the full picture of my garden, and as for me not watching my kids I do, that's why none of them have been injured, what about all the rubbish, stray dogs, people cutting through my garden using it has a shortcut, u would be saying something different if it was your garden fence
[quote][p][bold]Denholmelass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BungleMagic[/bold] wrote: Slow News day again. Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden. A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old. Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.[/p][/quote]Well said. I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much[/p][/quote]Some people just think it's all about them.Does Mr Whitford think he is the only person waiting for repairs?. And yes it would surprise me if he did go out to work, 4 children under 5 years old. I agree he should either let the children out to play in the front garden and watching them or even take them to the park.[/p][/quote]when I moved into my house I did not have a garden fence running down the right hand side of my back garden, this was 4 yrs ago,.i did try fixing the fence but due to the fact in not a joiner I shouldn't be fixing anyone's fence in the first place due to safety reasons. this is not my issue. my issue is now my full back garden fence as now come down leaving 70% of my back garden exposed, the photo u are seeing in paper is not the full picture of my garden, and as for me not watching my kids I do, that's why none of them have been injured, what about all the rubbish, stray dogs, people cutting through my garden using it has a shortcut, u would be saying something different if it was your garden fence bobwhitford
  • Score: -1

4:44pm Fri 7 Feb 14

bobwhitford says...

Andy2010 wrote:
BungleMagic wrote:
Slow News day again.

Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden.

A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old.

Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.
Well said.

I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much
when I moved into my house I did not have a garden fence running down the right hand side of my back garden, this was 4 yrs ago,.i did try fixing the fence but due to the fact in not a joiner I shouldn't be fixing anyone's fence in the first place due to safety reasons. this is not my issue. my issue is now my full back garden fence as now come down leaving 70% of my back garden exposed, the photo u are seeing in paper is not the full picture of my garden, and as for me not watching my kids I do, that's why none of them have been injured, what about all the rubbish, stray dogs, people cutting through my garden using it has a shortcut, u would be saying something different if it was your garden fence
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BungleMagic[/bold] wrote: Slow News day again. Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden. A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old. Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.[/p][/quote]Well said. I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much[/p][/quote]when I moved into my house I did not have a garden fence running down the right hand side of my back garden, this was 4 yrs ago,.i did try fixing the fence but due to the fact in not a joiner I shouldn't be fixing anyone's fence in the first place due to safety reasons. this is not my issue. my issue is now my full back garden fence as now come down leaving 70% of my back garden exposed, the photo u are seeing in paper is not the full picture of my garden, and as for me not watching my kids I do, that's why none of them have been injured, what about all the rubbish, stray dogs, people cutting through my garden using it has a shortcut, u would be saying something different if it was your garden fence bobwhitford
  • Score: 1

4:45pm Fri 7 Feb 14

bobwhitford says...

eccythump wrote:
I live in an Incommunities property, I have always maintained my own fences. I have spent hundreds of pounds doing so, for the protection of my animals, Dog and Cat. What is his problem? Spending too much time breeding the children, no time actually doing anything to ensure their safety. Man up.
when I moved into my house I did not have a garden fence running down the right hand side of my back garden, this was 4 yrs ago,.i did try fixing the fence but due to the fact in not a joiner I shouldn't be fixing anyone's fence in the first place due to safety reasons. this is not my issue. my issue is now my full back garden fence as now come down leaving 70% of my back garden exposed, the photo u are seeing in paper is not the full picture of my garden, and as for me not watching my kids I do, that's why none of them have been injured, what about all the rubbish, stray dogs, people cutting through my garden using it has a shortcut, u would be saying something different if it was your garden fence
[quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: I live in an Incommunities property, I have always maintained my own fences. I have spent hundreds of pounds doing so, for the protection of my animals, Dog and Cat. What is his problem? Spending too much time breeding the children, no time actually doing anything to ensure their safety. Man up.[/p][/quote]when I moved into my house I did not have a garden fence running down the right hand side of my back garden, this was 4 yrs ago,.i did try fixing the fence but due to the fact in not a joiner I shouldn't be fixing anyone's fence in the first place due to safety reasons. this is not my issue. my issue is now my full back garden fence as now come down leaving 70% of my back garden exposed, the photo u are seeing in paper is not the full picture of my garden, and as for me not watching my kids I do, that's why none of them have been injured, what about all the rubbish, stray dogs, people cutting through my garden using it has a shortcut, u would be saying something different if it was your garden fence bobwhitford
  • Score: 0

4:56pm Fri 7 Feb 14

bobwhitford says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
gracie field wrote:
Hang on a minute if the weather prevented Incommunities doing a repair then surly it would be too difficult for someone untrained to do it too? Also maybe he cant afford the material for the repair.What a load of prejudiced tosspots you lot above really are! You know nothing about this guy and you have labeled him workless and work-shy. Typical Tory trolls. Your the sort to vote Tory just to spite the poorest in society and then when you need help yourselves would be kicking up a fuss because you have no human rights left! Thick as the proverbial the lot of you.
The fence blew down on December the 5th. Are you trying to tell me in the 2 month since there hasn't been a single period of weather that would allow for him to fix the fence? I live about 3 miles from there and I can say for certain that there has been countless days of suitable weather. Unless Upper Grange Avenue has a micro climate that I am unaware of he has had ample opportunity to fix it. Look outside today in fact - it's calm and sunny!
He could patch that fence up until 'The professionals' come and fix it for less than £5.
i have fixed the fence once before but like i said to incommunities i am not a joiner, the fence is over 6ft tall and maybe 20ft long, how does one man, with no experience in joinery fix this, 70% of my back garden fence is no longer there, if there give me materials to do it i would try but im in no position to pay for this.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: Hang on a minute if the weather prevented Incommunities doing a repair then surly it would be too difficult for someone untrained to do it too? Also maybe he cant afford the material for the repair.What a load of prejudiced tosspots you lot above really are! You know nothing about this guy and you have labeled him workless and work-shy. Typical Tory trolls. Your the sort to vote Tory just to spite the poorest in society and then when you need help yourselves would be kicking up a fuss because you have no human rights left! Thick as the proverbial the lot of you.[/p][/quote]The fence blew down on December the 5th. Are you trying to tell me in the 2 month since there hasn't been a single period of weather that would allow for him to fix the fence? I live about 3 miles from there and I can say for certain that there has been countless days of suitable weather. Unless Upper Grange Avenue has a micro climate that I am unaware of he has had ample opportunity to fix it. Look outside today in fact - it's calm and sunny! He could patch that fence up until 'The professionals' come and fix it for less than £5.[/p][/quote]i have fixed the fence once before but like i said to incommunities i am not a joiner, the fence is over 6ft tall and maybe 20ft long, how does one man, with no experience in joinery fix this, 70% of my back garden fence is no longer there, if there give me materials to do it i would try but im in no position to pay for this. bobwhitford
  • Score: -1

4:57pm Fri 7 Feb 14

bobwhitford says...

Andy2010 wrote:
BungleMagic wrote:
Slow News day again.

Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden.

A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old.

Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.
Well said.

I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much
very judge mental mate
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BungleMagic[/bold] wrote: Slow News day again. Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden. A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old. Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.[/p][/quote]Well said. I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much[/p][/quote]very judge mental mate bobwhitford
  • Score: 1

4:58pm Fri 7 Feb 14

RollandSmoke says...

@bobwhitford I assume you are not a regular commentator or reader of said comments in the T&A as if you were you would know that most of those who do comment are miserable gits who try and compensate for their sad existences by belittling anyone and everyone at every given opportunity. You are perfectly within your rights to expect incommunities to fulfill their contractual obligations regarding repairs. This is obvious to everyone but some would never admit it as it wouldn't fit with the pathetic little games they like to play. Some like to play politics, others sit on the fence. Hopefully you wont sit on the fence after the repairs are done.
@bobwhitford I assume you are not a regular commentator or reader of said comments in the T&A as if you were you would know that most of those who do comment are miserable gits who try and compensate for their sad existences by belittling anyone and everyone at every given opportunity. You are perfectly within your rights to expect incommunities to fulfill their contractual obligations regarding repairs. This is obvious to everyone but some would never admit it as it wouldn't fit with the pathetic little games they like to play. Some like to play politics, others sit on the fence. Hopefully you wont sit on the fence after the repairs are done. RollandSmoke
  • Score: 2

5:03pm Fri 7 Feb 14

bobwhitford says...

when I moved into my house I did not have a garden fence running down the right hand side of my back garden, this was 4 yrs ago,.i did try fixing the fence but due to the fact in not a joiner I shouldn't be fixing anyone's fence in the first place due to safety reasons. this is not my issue. my issue is now my full back garden fence as now come down leaving 70% of my back garden exposed, the photo u are seeing in paper is not the full picture of my garden, and as for me not watching my kids I do, that's why none of them have been injured, what about all the rubbish, stray dogs, people cutting through my garden using it has a shortcut, u would be saying something different if it was your garden fence,
when I moved into my house I did not have a garden fence running down the right hand side of my back garden, this was 4 yrs ago,.i did try fixing the fence but due to the fact in not a joiner I shouldn't be fixing anyone's fence in the first place due to safety reasons. this is not my issue. my issue is now my full back garden fence as now come down leaving 70% of my back garden exposed, the photo u are seeing in paper is not the full picture of my garden, and as for me not watching my kids I do, that's why none of them have been injured, what about all the rubbish, stray dogs, people cutting through my garden using it has a shortcut, u would be saying something different if it was your garden fence, bobwhitford
  • Score: -3

5:09pm Fri 7 Feb 14

bobwhitford says...

I don't want comp why would i, all i want a fence around my back garden, just like everyone else in my area, and has for some of the comments u people have said are out of order, u know nothing about me, whether i work or not incommunities still have the right to keep the property in safe conditions, i didnt damage the fence it was blown down by wind due to rotten fence posts
I don't want comp why would i, all i want a fence around my back garden, just like everyone else in my area, and has for some of the comments u people have said are out of order, u know nothing about me, whether i work or not incommunities still have the right to keep the property in safe conditions, i didnt damage the fence it was blown down by wind due to rotten fence posts bobwhitford
  • Score: 0

5:22pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

bobwhitford wrote:
I don't want comp why would i, all i want a fence around my back garden, just like everyone else in my area, and has for some of the comments u people have said are out of order, u know nothing about me, whether i work or not incommunities still have the right to keep the property in safe conditions, i didnt damage the fence it was blown down by wind due to rotten fence posts
And you didn't go running to the T&A with your story hoping to get pushed up the jobs list? Did the T&A just randomly knock at your door?

A couple of hundred quid would buy the posts and panels to cover that area and a couple of blokes helping you could get it done in a day.

Got anything better to do?
[quote][p][bold]bobwhitford[/bold] wrote: I don't want comp why would i, all i want a fence around my back garden, just like everyone else in my area, and has for some of the comments u people have said are out of order, u know nothing about me, whether i work or not incommunities still have the right to keep the property in safe conditions, i didnt damage the fence it was blown down by wind due to rotten fence posts[/p][/quote]And you didn't go running to the T&A with your story hoping to get pushed up the jobs list? Did the T&A just randomly knock at your door? A couple of hundred quid would buy the posts and panels to cover that area and a couple of blokes helping you could get it done in a day. Got anything better to do? Andy2010
  • Score: 3

5:23pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Andy2010 says...

bobwhitford wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
BungleMagic wrote:
Slow News day again.

Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden.

A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old.

Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.
Well said.

I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much
very judge mental mate
I agree very judgmental but bet I'm right
[quote][p][bold]bobwhitford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BungleMagic[/bold] wrote: Slow News day again. Surely, Mr Whitford could make minor repairs to the fence so that his four children (all under 5) would be able to play in the garden. A broken man-hole cover in the neighbouring back yard would only be dangerous if nobody was watching the children as they played, after all they are all under 5 years old. Whilst Yes, Incommunities are responsible for the property, what's wrong with Mr Whitford being responsible as well instead of looking to blame somebody else.[/p][/quote]Well said. I'd hazard a guess doesn't work either so plenty of time to get of his backside and temporarily fix the fence if it bothers him so much[/p][/quote]very judge mental mate[/p][/quote]I agree very judgmental but bet I'm right Andy2010
  • Score: 5

7:20pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Alhaurinrhino says...

bobwhitford wrote:
I don't want comp why would i, all i want a fence around my back garden, just like everyone else in my area, and has for some of the comments u people have said are out of order, u know nothing about me, whether i work or not incommunities still have the right to keep the property in safe conditions, i didnt damage the fence it was blown down by wind due to rotten fence posts
If you'd spent as much time nailing your fence as you did nailing your bird then the fence would still be standing.

Do you actually know how to do anything barring feckless breeding?
[quote][p][bold]bobwhitford[/bold] wrote: I don't want comp why would i, all i want a fence around my back garden, just like everyone else in my area, and has for some of the comments u people have said are out of order, u know nothing about me, whether i work or not incommunities still have the right to keep the property in safe conditions, i didnt damage the fence it was blown down by wind due to rotten fence posts[/p][/quote]If you'd spent as much time nailing your fence as you did nailing your bird then the fence would still be standing. Do you actually know how to do anything barring feckless breeding? Alhaurinrhino
  • Score: 3

9:13am Sat 8 Feb 14

MontyLeMar says...

gracie field wrote:
Hang on a minute if the weather prevented Incommunities doing a repair then surly it would be too difficult for someone untrained to do it too? Also maybe he cant afford the material for the repair.What a load of prejudiced tosspots you lot above really are! You know nothing about this guy and you have labeled him workless and work-shy. Typical Tory trolls. Your the sort to vote Tory just to spite the poorest in society and then when you need help yourselves would be kicking up a fuss because you have no human rights left! Thick as the proverbial the lot of you.
Agreed. That is one big fence and is not just a couple of hours' job. The fence would have to be dismantled, new posts put in plus concrete, etc. Then re-built and treated with toxic preservative. Definitely a job for the professionals. It's the property owners responsibility. Plus why is it so tall? Once the wind gets to work on it the fence will be down within a couple of weeks. I would also urge Incommunities to get that manhole sorted pdq. There's a maintenance man on trial in Leeds at the moment because he didn't get a railing in a tower block repaired properly and a child died. Curious kids will, quite rightly, get everywhere to explore the world. It's up to all adults to watch out for them.
[quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: Hang on a minute if the weather prevented Incommunities doing a repair then surly it would be too difficult for someone untrained to do it too? Also maybe he cant afford the material for the repair.What a load of prejudiced tosspots you lot above really are! You know nothing about this guy and you have labeled him workless and work-shy. Typical Tory trolls. Your the sort to vote Tory just to spite the poorest in society and then when you need help yourselves would be kicking up a fuss because you have no human rights left! Thick as the proverbial the lot of you.[/p][/quote]Agreed. That is one big fence and is not just a couple of hours' job. The fence would have to be dismantled, new posts put in plus concrete, etc. Then re-built and treated with toxic preservative. Definitely a job for the professionals. It's the property owners responsibility. Plus why is it so tall? Once the wind gets to work on it the fence will be down within a couple of weeks. I would also urge Incommunities to get that manhole sorted pdq. There's a maintenance man on trial in Leeds at the moment because he didn't get a railing in a tower block repaired properly and a child died. Curious kids will, quite rightly, get everywhere to explore the world. It's up to all adults to watch out for them. MontyLeMar
  • Score: 3

9:19am Sat 8 Feb 14

MontyLeMar says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Cooperlane2 wrote:
tbh this wouldn't rate high on the list of prioritising jobs.
It would take more than a few nails to repair and probably requires power tools to rip out old concreted-in posts. He's right to expect the landlord to effect repairs, but hardly the end of the world.
No one is suggesting he totally fix it himself. Theres nothing stopping him quickly repairing it to make safe though.

If then fences were downed on December the 5th why are they still lying there? Couldn't they be moved ?

This is just plain laziness by a workshy scrounger and typical of the benefits society expecting everything done for them.

The bloke couldn't even be bothered making himself respectable for a picture that appears in the paper so there's no hope really is there
Possibly he doesn't want to touch it because he feels he is not skilled enough to do a good enough job? There maybe even something in the lease documents stipulating that he can not do it. What if it blew down again and injured his child? Taking the initiative in this day and age is full of legal risks.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cooperlane2[/bold] wrote: tbh this wouldn't rate high on the list of prioritising jobs. It would take more than a few nails to repair and probably requires power tools to rip out old concreted-in posts. He's right to expect the landlord to effect repairs, but hardly the end of the world.[/p][/quote]No one is suggesting he totally fix it himself. Theres nothing stopping him quickly repairing it to make safe though. If then fences were downed on December the 5th why are they still lying there? Couldn't they be moved ? This is just plain laziness by a workshy scrounger and typical of the benefits society expecting everything done for them. The bloke couldn't even be bothered making himself respectable for a picture that appears in the paper so there's no hope really is there[/p][/quote]Possibly he doesn't want to touch it because he feels he is not skilled enough to do a good enough job? There maybe even something in the lease documents stipulating that he can not do it. What if it blew down again and injured his child? Taking the initiative in this day and age is full of legal risks. MontyLeMar
  • Score: 1

9:41am Sat 8 Feb 14

MontyLeMar says...

Andy2010 wrote:
bobwhitford wrote:
I don't want comp why would i, all i want a fence around my back garden, just like everyone else in my area, and has for some of the comments u people have said are out of order, u know nothing about me, whether i work or not incommunities still have the right to keep the property in safe conditions, i didnt damage the fence it was blown down by wind due to rotten fence posts
And you didn't go running to the T&A with your story hoping to get pushed up the jobs list? Did the T&A just randomly knock at your door?

A couple of hundred quid would buy the posts and panels to cover that area and a couple of blokes helping you could get it done in a day.

Got anything better to do?
Well done Andy, well volunteered. So it's gone from a few nails and a few minutes' job on some people's estimate to a couple of men and a couple of hundred quid and a day's labour. Even a moron can see that fence is huge by conventional garden fence standards and should not be fixed by untrained people plus anyone who does fix it leaves themselves open to possible legal action by the landlord for breaking the tenancy agreement.

I agree Incommunities have a difficult job looking after all their properties and keeping their tenants happy but they keep telling us how many apprentices they are training. What an opportunity to teach them a bit of joinery by fixing Bob's fence. Personally I think a complete redesign is needed, something better able to withstand the hurricanes we are experiencing.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobwhitford[/bold] wrote: I don't want comp why would i, all i want a fence around my back garden, just like everyone else in my area, and has for some of the comments u people have said are out of order, u know nothing about me, whether i work or not incommunities still have the right to keep the property in safe conditions, i didnt damage the fence it was blown down by wind due to rotten fence posts[/p][/quote]And you didn't go running to the T&A with your story hoping to get pushed up the jobs list? Did the T&A just randomly knock at your door? A couple of hundred quid would buy the posts and panels to cover that area and a couple of blokes helping you could get it done in a day. Got anything better to do?[/p][/quote]Well done Andy, well volunteered. So it's gone from a few nails and a few minutes' job on some people's estimate to a couple of men and a couple of hundred quid and a day's labour. Even a moron can see that fence is huge by conventional garden fence standards and should not be fixed by untrained people plus anyone who does fix it leaves themselves open to possible legal action by the landlord for breaking the tenancy agreement. I agree Incommunities have a difficult job looking after all their properties and keeping their tenants happy but they keep telling us how many apprentices they are training. What an opportunity to teach them a bit of joinery by fixing Bob's fence. Personally I think a complete redesign is needed, something better able to withstand the hurricanes we are experiencing. MontyLeMar
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1:41pm Sat 8 Feb 14

eccythump says...

bobwhitford wrote:
eccythump wrote:
I live in an Incommunities property, I have always maintained my own fences. I have spent hundreds of pounds doing so, for the protection of my animals, Dog and Cat. What is his problem? Spending too much time breeding the children, no time actually doing anything to ensure their safety. Man up.
when I moved into my house I did not have a garden fence running down the right hand side of my back garden, this was 4 yrs ago,.i did try fixing the fence but due to the fact in not a joiner I shouldn't be fixing anyone's fence in the first place due to safety reasons. this is not my issue. my issue is now my full back garden fence as now come down leaving 70% of my back garden exposed, the photo u are seeing in paper is not the full picture of my garden, and as for me not watching my kids I do, that's why none of them have been injured, what about all the rubbish, stray dogs, people cutting through my garden using it has a shortcut, u would be saying something different if it was your garden fence
..er no I wouldn't. As I said I did it myself. I didn't have any fences when I moved in here( the council at the time said it was meant to be open plan) ! and yes cheeky, lazy, ba$tards though they could cut through, from one street to the next, I soon taught them differently. If people weren't such twonks in general, you wouldn't have the problems of rubbish, trespassers and stray Dogs. Be a part of the solution, not the problem.
[quote][p][bold]bobwhitford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eccythump[/bold] wrote: I live in an Incommunities property, I have always maintained my own fences. I have spent hundreds of pounds doing so, for the protection of my animals, Dog and Cat. What is his problem? Spending too much time breeding the children, no time actually doing anything to ensure their safety. Man up.[/p][/quote]when I moved into my house I did not have a garden fence running down the right hand side of my back garden, this was 4 yrs ago,.i did try fixing the fence but due to the fact in not a joiner I shouldn't be fixing anyone's fence in the first place due to safety reasons. this is not my issue. my issue is now my full back garden fence as now come down leaving 70% of my back garden exposed, the photo u are seeing in paper is not the full picture of my garden, and as for me not watching my kids I do, that's why none of them have been injured, what about all the rubbish, stray dogs, people cutting through my garden using it has a shortcut, u would be saying something different if it was your garden fence[/p][/quote]..er no I wouldn't. As I said I did it myself. I didn't have any fences when I moved in here( the council at the time said it was meant to be open plan) ! and yes cheeky, lazy, ba$tards though they could cut through, from one street to the next, I soon taught them differently. If people weren't such twonks in general, you wouldn't have the problems of rubbish, trespassers and stray Dogs. Be a part of the solution, not the problem. eccythump
  • Score: 4

1:53pm Sat 8 Feb 14

eccythump says...

I can sympathise with the fact that you do not have the skills, or financial wherewithal to undertake these repairs yourself. But it begs the question, why would you undertake to have four children, all aged 5 and under, when you do not have the wherewithal to support a fence, let alone these mites ? I suggest you stop breeding, until you have the money in the bank to fully support your brood.
I can sympathise with the fact that you do not have the skills, or financial wherewithal to undertake these repairs yourself. But it begs the question, why would you undertake to have four children, all aged 5 and under, when you do not have the wherewithal to support a fence, let alone these mites ? I suggest you stop breeding, until you have the money in the bank to fully support your brood. eccythump
  • Score: 5

5:25pm Sat 8 Feb 14

webshow says...

Life on Benefits St means you have all the time in the world to look after the safety of your kids.
Life on Benefits St means you have all the time in the world to look after the safety of your kids. webshow
  • Score: 5

6:35pm Sat 8 Feb 14

Shauna-leigh11 says...

What a bunch of losers, saying hes got all this time to do it, like all you tossers can say anything sat on ya keyboards trying to belittle someone you dont know, i think your the ones with too much time on your hands !! Arseholes think of something abit more productive to do with ya boring lifes than sit on a website n 'try' make yourself look better than other people !! Rant over
What a bunch of losers, saying hes got all this time to do it, like all you tossers can say anything sat on ya keyboards trying to belittle someone you dont know, i think your the ones with too much time on your hands !! Arseholes think of something abit more productive to do with ya boring lifes than sit on a website n 'try' make yourself look better than other people !! Rant over Shauna-leigh11
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7:42pm Sat 8 Feb 14

gwebbo says...

Yes I live next door to one of their properties on ravenscliffe.My house is owned and I want to preserve the value and keep it tidy but how can I when they dont look after their own properties and repair fences.New tennants who dont work are not going to be able to afford to do this and why should they when they move in and the fence is already broken and parts missing.I have reported this to them but they fob me off so I have to live next door to their scruffy house.Shameful, people responsible should be sacked.Why should I put money into my house and live next door to this.
Yes I live next door to one of their properties on ravenscliffe.My house is owned and I want to preserve the value and keep it tidy but how can I when they dont look after their own properties and repair fences.New tennants who dont work are not going to be able to afford to do this and why should they when they move in and the fence is already broken and parts missing.I have reported this to them but they fob me off so I have to live next door to their scruffy house.Shameful, people responsible should be sacked.Why should I put money into my house and live next door to this. gwebbo
  • Score: 2

8:40pm Sat 8 Feb 14

locky1667 says...

If its that dangerous why are you stood on it with one of your children. Cabbage
If its that dangerous why are you stood on it with one of your children. Cabbage locky1667
  • Score: 2

10:58pm Sat 8 Feb 14

mummyto2 says...

bobwhitford wrote:
I don't want comp why would i, all i want a fence around my back garden, just like everyone else in my area, and has for some of the comments u people have said are out of order, u know nothing about me, whether i work or not incommunities still have the right to keep the property in safe conditions, i didnt damage the fence it was blown down by wind due to rotten fence posts
You people make me sick. This guy has done nothing wrong and you all assume he is jobless and a scrounger because he has 4 kids! My husband works full time and I've 3 children, if i hadn't mentioned my husband working guess we would of been branded scroungers. In all fairness my husband spent over £350 on our garden even though we are in rented accommodation and its not classed as urgent because parents should constantly watch the children.
[quote][p][bold]bobwhitford[/bold] wrote: I don't want comp why would i, all i want a fence around my back garden, just like everyone else in my area, and has for some of the comments u people have said are out of order, u know nothing about me, whether i work or not incommunities still have the right to keep the property in safe conditions, i didnt damage the fence it was blown down by wind due to rotten fence posts[/p][/quote]You people make me sick. This guy has done nothing wrong and you all assume he is jobless and a scrounger because he has 4 kids! My husband works full time and I've 3 children, if i hadn't mentioned my husband working guess we would of been branded scroungers. In all fairness my husband spent over £350 on our garden even though we are in rented accommodation and its not classed as urgent because parents should constantly watch the children. mummyto2
  • Score: 0

1:18pm Wed 12 Feb 14

StevieLad says...

gracie field wrote:
Hang on a minute if the weather prevented Incommunities doing a repair then surly it would be too difficult for someone untrained to do it too? Also maybe he cant afford the material for the repair.What a load of prejudiced tosspots you lot above really are! You know nothing about this guy and you have labeled him workless and work-shy. Typical Tory trolls. Your the sort to vote Tory just to spite the poorest in society and then when you need help yourselves would be kicking up a fuss because you have no human rights left! Thick as the proverbial the lot of you.
Get used to the stigmatising of the poor as it's not going away any time soon. It suits the ruling government & their policy of cuts.

Poor people do still get the vote tho :-)

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[quote][p][bold]gracie field[/bold] wrote: Hang on a minute if the weather prevented Incommunities doing a repair then surly it would be too difficult for someone untrained to do it too? Also maybe he cant afford the material for the repair.What a load of prejudiced tosspots you lot above really are! You know nothing about this guy and you have labeled him workless and work-shy. Typical Tory trolls. Your the sort to vote Tory just to spite the poorest in society and then when you need help yourselves would be kicking up a fuss because you have no human rights left! Thick as the proverbial the lot of you.[/p][/quote]Get used to the stigmatising of the poor as it's not going away any time soon. It suits the ruling government & their policy of cuts. Poor people do still get the vote tho :-) http://www.hazemagaz ine.co.uk/wp-content /uploads/2014/01/BEN EFITS-STREET-MYTH-AN D-REALITY.jpg StevieLad
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