Eric Pickles accused of trying to 'gag' local councils

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Local Government Secretary Eric Pickles Local Government Secretary Eric Pickles

Eric Pickles has been accused of trying to ‘gag’ local councils critical of his policies, sparking a clash with a Bradford MP.

A new law will prevent town halls arguing that huge Whitehall grant reductions have forced them to make unpopular cuts to services, Labour has protested.

And it could stop them using the term ‘bedroom tax’ it was claimed, which ministers insist must be described as removing the ‘spare room subsidy’.

Labour said the legislation, which was debated by MPs yesterday, will turn Bradford-born Mr Pickles, the Local Government Secretary, into “censor-in-chief”.

Furthermore, it comes ahead of further cuts to council funds – of ten per cent from 2015, on top of the loss of 33 per cent of their grants between 2011 and 2015.

Councillor David Green, Bradford’s Labour leader, has described the city’s future as “desperate” if cuts go ahead on such a scale.

But Mr Pickles has repeatedly denied his grant cuts have forced Bradford, and other councils, to withdraw services.

Gerry Sutcliffe, Labour MP for Bradford South, said he was worried the Local Government Secretary was trying to stifle dissent. He said: “This not about local democracy, this is about central control. Councillors of all parties should be concerned about this Bill.”

The row blew up over a clause inserted into the Local Audit and Accountability Bill, giving Mr Pickles fresh powers over information produced by town halls.

The Local Government Secretary has accused some councils of flouting a voluntary code designed to ensure “objectivity” in their publicity for residents. Therefore, he is introducing legislation to prevent “political points” being made on posters, or in council free sheets put through letterboxes, for example.

A spokesman for Mr Pickles said he was attempting to prevent councils publishing “political propaganda”.

He said: “They are quite free, providing they use their own or their party funds to do so, to issue publicity, or to come together with other parties to mount a publicity campaign.

“What they are not allowed to do is to spend taxpayers’ money to campaign with a message designed to influence voters about Government policies.”

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7:39am Wed 18 Dec 13

Apollo says...

He makes me gag every time you publish a picture of the Fat Controller.
He makes me gag every time you publish a picture of the Fat Controller. Apollo

8:04am Wed 18 Dec 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Gerry Sutcliffe moaning about something else now. Still not explained where £200k of council taxpayers money went at the Bulls though or passed comment on all those who have been made redundant.
Gerry Sutcliffe moaning about something else now. Still not explained where £200k of council taxpayers money went at the Bulls though or passed comment on all those who have been made redundant. Thee Voice of Reason

8:42am Wed 18 Dec 13

bd7 helper says...

waste of space and time
waste of space and time bd7 helper

8:50am Wed 18 Dec 13

collos25 says...

Two big fat chunks of lard one wants to stop a council spending tax payers money on a party political agenda and the other who is against it cannot explain were 200k of tax payers money went and if it ill ever be returned.
Two big fat chunks of lard one wants to stop a council spending tax payers money on a party political agenda and the other who is against it cannot explain were 200k of tax payers money went and if it ill ever be returned. collos25

8:57am Wed 18 Dec 13

angry bradfordian says...

I hate to agree with Pickles, but it seems completely reasonable that councils should only be able to spend public money on politically biased information.
Regardless of whether you agree with the badly thought out spare room subsidy it's wrong that a council should use the slang term to describe it. Green doesn't seem to explain why he thinks that despite the council being short of funds he thinks such literature is a prudent use of those funds.

I assume this bill also stops Tory councils from promoting the coalition's policies in a good light, but I suppose that doesn't fit with Green's agenda.
I hate to agree with Pickles, but it seems completely reasonable that councils should only be able to spend public money on politically biased information. Regardless of whether you agree with the badly thought out spare room subsidy it's wrong that a council should use the slang term to describe it. Green doesn't seem to explain why he thinks that despite the council being short of funds he thinks such literature is a prudent use of those funds. I assume this bill also stops Tory councils from promoting the coalition's policies in a good light, but I suppose that doesn't fit with Green's agenda. angry bradfordian

9:34am Wed 18 Dec 13

mad matt says...

Pickles was nowt but a trouble-maker when he was on Bradford council - good riddance to him but now he's got his feet under the table in Nº10 he thinks he's someone important. Typical !!!!!
Pickles was nowt but a trouble-maker when he was on Bradford council - good riddance to him but now he's got his feet under the table in Nº10 he thinks he's someone important. Typical !!!!! mad matt

10:56am Wed 18 Dec 13

pellethead says...

What Porky Pig really wants is to stop local authorities telling the truth.

"Pickles has repeatedly denied his grant cuts have forced Bradford, and other councils, to withdraw services."

What else is a council supposed to do when over a third of its grant is withdrawn.
The man and his party and all those who vote for them are imbeciles and fools
What Porky Pig really wants is to stop local authorities telling the truth. "Pickles has repeatedly denied his grant cuts have forced Bradford, and other councils, to withdraw services." What else is a council supposed to do when over a third of its grant is withdrawn. The man and his party and all those who vote for them are imbeciles and fools pellethead

12:06pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Cityman23 says...

angry bradfordian wrote:
I hate to agree with Pickles, but it seems completely reasonable that councils should only be able to spend public money on politically biased information.
Regardless of whether you agree with the badly thought out spare room subsidy it's wrong that a council should use the slang term to describe it. Green doesn't seem to explain why he thinks that despite the council being short of funds he thinks such literature is a prudent use of those funds.

I assume this bill also stops Tory councils from promoting the coalition's policies in a good light, but I suppose that doesn't fit with Green's agenda.
Government's use the terminology that suits their purposes but other's will call 'a spade a spade' and you can't stop that happening. Hence Thatcher's 'Community Charge' became known as the 'Poll Tax' (and 90% of the time was known as this) and the Spare Room Subsidy is known to most people as the 'Bedroom Tax' (because that's what it appears to be). In fact I well remember a Tory minister slipping up in parliament years ago and HIMSELF referring to the 'Poll Tax' before correcting himself!! I'd say 'Bedroom tax' sums it up pretty accurately and if it infuriates the Tories every time the phrase is used, (like the 'Poll Tax'-so much the better!!
[quote][p][bold]angry bradfordian[/bold] wrote: I hate to agree with Pickles, but it seems completely reasonable that councils should only be able to spend public money on politically biased information. Regardless of whether you agree with the badly thought out spare room subsidy it's wrong that a council should use the slang term to describe it. Green doesn't seem to explain why he thinks that despite the council being short of funds he thinks such literature is a prudent use of those funds. I assume this bill also stops Tory councils from promoting the coalition's policies in a good light, but I suppose that doesn't fit with Green's agenda.[/p][/quote]Government's use the terminology that suits their purposes but other's will call 'a spade a spade' and you can't stop that happening. Hence Thatcher's 'Community Charge' became known as the 'Poll Tax' (and 90% of the time was known as this) and the Spare Room Subsidy is known to most people as the 'Bedroom Tax' (because that's what it appears to be). In fact I well remember a Tory minister slipping up in parliament years ago and HIMSELF referring to the 'Poll Tax' before correcting himself!! I'd say 'Bedroom tax' sums it up pretty accurately and if it infuriates the Tories every time the phrase is used, (like the 'Poll Tax'-so much the better!! Cityman23

12:29pm Wed 18 Dec 13

scottie dog says...

It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.
It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well. scottie dog

1:39pm Wed 18 Dec 13

angry bradfordian says...

Cityman23 wrote:
angry bradfordian wrote:
I hate to agree with Pickles, but it seems completely reasonable that councils should only be able to spend public money on politically biased information.
Regardless of whether you agree with the badly thought out spare room subsidy it's wrong that a council should use the slang term to describe it. Green doesn't seem to explain why he thinks that despite the council being short of funds he thinks such literature is a prudent use of those funds.

I assume this bill also stops Tory councils from promoting the coalition's policies in a good light, but I suppose that doesn't fit with Green's agenda.
Government's use the terminology that suits their purposes but other's will call 'a spade a spade' and you can't stop that happening. Hence Thatcher's 'Community Charge' became known as the 'Poll Tax' (and 90% of the time was known as this) and the Spare Room Subsidy is known to most people as the 'Bedroom Tax' (because that's what it appears to be). In fact I well remember a Tory minister slipping up in parliament years ago and HIMSELF referring to the 'Poll Tax' before correcting himself!! I'd say 'Bedroom tax' sums it up pretty accurately and if it infuriates the Tories every time the phrase is used, (like the 'Poll Tax'-so much the better!!
I doubt it is called the Bedroom Tax by 'most people' as it's not at the forefront of the vast majority of the public's attention.

It's one of the many subjects only discussed by politicians, journalists & political bloggers because they're so disconnected to the rest of us.
It's not a subject I've ever heard discussed in a bus queue or in the pub by anyone.
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angry bradfordian[/bold] wrote: I hate to agree with Pickles, but it seems completely reasonable that councils should only be able to spend public money on politically biased information. Regardless of whether you agree with the badly thought out spare room subsidy it's wrong that a council should use the slang term to describe it. Green doesn't seem to explain why he thinks that despite the council being short of funds he thinks such literature is a prudent use of those funds. I assume this bill also stops Tory councils from promoting the coalition's policies in a good light, but I suppose that doesn't fit with Green's agenda.[/p][/quote]Government's use the terminology that suits their purposes but other's will call 'a spade a spade' and you can't stop that happening. Hence Thatcher's 'Community Charge' became known as the 'Poll Tax' (and 90% of the time was known as this) and the Spare Room Subsidy is known to most people as the 'Bedroom Tax' (because that's what it appears to be). In fact I well remember a Tory minister slipping up in parliament years ago and HIMSELF referring to the 'Poll Tax' before correcting himself!! I'd say 'Bedroom tax' sums it up pretty accurately and if it infuriates the Tories every time the phrase is used, (like the 'Poll Tax'-so much the better!![/p][/quote]I doubt it is called the Bedroom Tax by 'most people' as it's not at the forefront of the vast majority of the public's attention. It's one of the many subjects only discussed by politicians, journalists & political bloggers because they're so disconnected to the rest of us. It's not a subject I've ever heard discussed in a bus queue or in the pub by anyone. angry bradfordian

2:13pm Wed 18 Dec 13

RollandSmoke says...

In order to remove the "spare room subsidy" people would have had to have been receiving a "subsidy" for having a "spare room". So If someone can find me any reference to this "subsidy" with a figure as to how much "subsidy" people were in receipt of prior to 2010 I would be grateful. I wouldn't say it's a Tax though as that would imply the person being charged the tax having been the financial beneficiary. As the money would have gone to the landlord not the claimant that was never the case. There are not enough suitable properties for people to move to in order to escape having to pay so I think a more accurate term may be entrapment. Where someone in receipt of JSA who runs the risk of being sanctioned at the Job Centers whim is supposed to find the cash to pay this "subsidy" is beyond me?. They have in effect lost almost 20% of a benefit deemed the minimum legal requirement for someone to live. And suprise suprise we have a massive rise in the number of people using food banks. Have the Tories ever heard the term Cause and Effect. I'll be charitable and say they have done this because they are incompetent and oblivious of the consequences. It may make them appear slightly more human if when told of how they are hurting people they didn't respond with yet another attack.
In order to remove the "spare room subsidy" people would have had to have been receiving a "subsidy" for having a "spare room". So If someone can find me any reference to this "subsidy" with a figure as to how much "subsidy" people were in receipt of prior to 2010 I would be grateful. I wouldn't say it's a Tax though as that would imply the person being charged the tax having been the financial beneficiary. As the money would have gone to the landlord not the claimant that was never the case. There are not enough suitable properties for people to move to in order to escape having to pay so I think a more accurate term may be entrapment. Where someone in receipt of JSA who runs the risk of being sanctioned at the Job Centers whim is supposed to find the cash to pay this "subsidy" is beyond me?. They have in effect lost almost 20% of a benefit deemed the minimum legal requirement for someone to live. And suprise suprise we have a massive rise in the number of people using food banks. Have the Tories ever heard the term Cause and Effect. I'll be charitable and say they have done this because they are incompetent and oblivious of the consequences. It may make them appear slightly more human if when told of how they are hurting people they didn't respond with yet another attack. RollandSmoke

3:24pm Wed 18 Dec 13

alive and awake says...

scottie dog wrote:
It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.
Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies
Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.
[quote][p][bold]scottie dog[/bold] wrote: It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.[/p][/quote]Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same. alive and awake

4:51pm Wed 18 Dec 13

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
scottie dog wrote:
It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.
Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies
Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.
Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scottie dog[/bold] wrote: It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.[/p][/quote]Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.[/p][/quote]Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track? RollandSmoke

5:20pm Wed 18 Dec 13

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
scottie dog wrote:
It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.
Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies
Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.
Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?
We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench.
I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government.
Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed.
Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scottie dog[/bold] wrote: It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.[/p][/quote]Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.[/p][/quote]Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?[/p][/quote]We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench. I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government. Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed. Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth. alive and awake

5:45pm Wed 18 Dec 13

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
scottie dog wrote:
It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.
Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies
Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.
Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?
We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench.
I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government.
Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed.
Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.
Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scottie dog[/bold] wrote: It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.[/p][/quote]Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.[/p][/quote]Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?[/p][/quote]We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench. I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government. Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed. Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.[/p][/quote]Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped. RollandSmoke

6:33pm Wed 18 Dec 13

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
scottie dog wrote:
It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.
Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies
Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.
Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?
We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench.
I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government.
Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed.
Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.
Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.
No comment on Balls, interesting.
For your info. my favorite musical is Les Miserables.
As for Bilderberg I think you'll find that the indocterine centre for The Euro Brigade. I AM NOT A TORY I have told you before. I just cannot abide the yobs and scumbags we are lumbard with. Who have all had a chance ,in some cases time and again.
I would rather have a snob than a yob.
Liars are the worst.
Hypocrites are just as bad.
Now I don't care what a persons politics are, or their religion, or what colour their skin is.
If we lived our lives within the 10 commandments what a wonderful world it would be. I say this because even the thickest can be trained to abide by 10 simple rules.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scottie dog[/bold] wrote: It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.[/p][/quote]Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.[/p][/quote]Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?[/p][/quote]We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench. I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government. Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed. Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.[/p][/quote]Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.[/p][/quote]No comment on Balls, interesting. For your info. my favorite musical is Les Miserables. As for Bilderberg I think you'll find that the indocterine centre for The Euro Brigade. I AM NOT A TORY I have told you before. I just cannot abide the yobs and scumbags we are lumbard with. Who have all had a chance ,in some cases time and again. I would rather have a snob than a yob. Liars are the worst. Hypocrites are just as bad. Now I don't care what a persons politics are, or their religion, or what colour their skin is. If we lived our lives within the 10 commandments what a wonderful world it would be. I say this because even the thickest can be trained to abide by 10 simple rules. alive and awake

6:49pm Wed 18 Dec 13

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
scottie dog wrote:
It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.
Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies
Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.
Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?
We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench.
I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government.
Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed.
Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.
Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.
No comment on Balls, interesting.
For your info. my favorite musical is Les Miserables.
As for Bilderberg I think you'll find that the indocterine centre for The Euro Brigade. I AM NOT A TORY I have told you before. I just cannot abide the yobs and scumbags we are lumbard with. Who have all had a chance ,in some cases time and again.
I would rather have a snob than a yob.
Liars are the worst.
Hypocrites are just as bad.
Now I don't care what a persons politics are, or their religion, or what colour their skin is.
If we lived our lives within the 10 commandments what a wonderful world it would be. I say this because even the thickest can be trained to abide by 10 simple rules.
So how are we to achieve this re-education then? Is being done via some form of psychological re-alignment in order to change perceptions? Are the people failing because they believe themselves to be failures? Are they even sure what they believe themselves to be? It is very easy to make someone believe something. Will the psyops ever be admitted to?
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scottie dog[/bold] wrote: It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.[/p][/quote]Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.[/p][/quote]Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?[/p][/quote]We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench. I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government. Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed. Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.[/p][/quote]Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.[/p][/quote]No comment on Balls, interesting. For your info. my favorite musical is Les Miserables. As for Bilderberg I think you'll find that the indocterine centre for The Euro Brigade. I AM NOT A TORY I have told you before. I just cannot abide the yobs and scumbags we are lumbard with. Who have all had a chance ,in some cases time and again. I would rather have a snob than a yob. Liars are the worst. Hypocrites are just as bad. Now I don't care what a persons politics are, or their religion, or what colour their skin is. If we lived our lives within the 10 commandments what a wonderful world it would be. I say this because even the thickest can be trained to abide by 10 simple rules.[/p][/quote]So how are we to achieve this re-education then? Is being done via some form of psychological re-alignment in order to change perceptions? Are the people failing because they believe themselves to be failures? Are they even sure what they believe themselves to be? It is very easy to make someone believe something. Will the psyops ever be admitted to? RollandSmoke

6:56pm Wed 18 Dec 13

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
scottie dog wrote:
It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.
Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies
Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.
Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?
We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench.
I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government.
Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed.
Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.
Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.
No comment on Balls, interesting.
For your info. my favorite musical is Les Miserables.
As for Bilderberg I think you'll find that the indocterine centre for The Euro Brigade. I AM NOT A TORY I have told you before. I just cannot abide the yobs and scumbags we are lumbard with. Who have all had a chance ,in some cases time and again.
I would rather have a snob than a yob.
Liars are the worst.
Hypocrites are just as bad.
Now I don't care what a persons politics are, or their religion, or what colour their skin is.
If we lived our lives within the 10 commandments what a wonderful world it would be. I say this because even the thickest can be trained to abide by 10 simple rules.
So how are we to achieve this re-education then? Is being done via some form of psychological re-alignment in order to change perceptions? Are the people failing because they believe themselves to be failures? Are they even sure what they believe themselves to be? It is very easy to make someone believe something. Will the psyops ever be admitted to?
Got to be discipline, wev'e tried the carrot doesn't work.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scottie dog[/bold] wrote: It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.[/p][/quote]Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.[/p][/quote]Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?[/p][/quote]We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench. I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government. Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed. Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.[/p][/quote]Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.[/p][/quote]No comment on Balls, interesting. For your info. my favorite musical is Les Miserables. As for Bilderberg I think you'll find that the indocterine centre for The Euro Brigade. I AM NOT A TORY I have told you before. I just cannot abide the yobs and scumbags we are lumbard with. Who have all had a chance ,in some cases time and again. I would rather have a snob than a yob. Liars are the worst. Hypocrites are just as bad. Now I don't care what a persons politics are, or their religion, or what colour their skin is. If we lived our lives within the 10 commandments what a wonderful world it would be. I say this because even the thickest can be trained to abide by 10 simple rules.[/p][/quote]So how are we to achieve this re-education then? Is being done via some form of psychological re-alignment in order to change perceptions? Are the people failing because they believe themselves to be failures? Are they even sure what they believe themselves to be? It is very easy to make someone believe something. Will the psyops ever be admitted to?[/p][/quote]Got to be discipline, wev'e tried the carrot doesn't work. alive and awake

7:02pm Wed 18 Dec 13

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
scottie dog wrote:
It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.
Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies
Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.
Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?
We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench.
I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government.
Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed.
Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.
Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.
No comment on Balls, interesting.
For your info. my favorite musical is Les Miserables.
As for Bilderberg I think you'll find that the indocterine centre for The Euro Brigade. I AM NOT A TORY I have told you before. I just cannot abide the yobs and scumbags we are lumbard with. Who have all had a chance ,in some cases time and again.
I would rather have a snob than a yob.
Liars are the worst.
Hypocrites are just as bad.
Now I don't care what a persons politics are, or their religion, or what colour their skin is.
If we lived our lives within the 10 commandments what a wonderful world it would be. I say this because even the thickest can be trained to abide by 10 simple rules.
So how are we to achieve this re-education then? Is being done via some form of psychological re-alignment in order to change perceptions? Are the people failing because they believe themselves to be failures? Are they even sure what they believe themselves to be? It is very easy to make someone believe something. Will the psyops ever be admitted to?
Got to be discipline, wev'e tried the carrot doesn't work.
I hear Osborne's keen on both. He's asked Eric for the gag back.
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scottie dog[/bold] wrote: It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.[/p][/quote]Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.[/p][/quote]Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?[/p][/quote]We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench. I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government. Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed. Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.[/p][/quote]Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.[/p][/quote]No comment on Balls, interesting. For your info. my favorite musical is Les Miserables. As for Bilderberg I think you'll find that the indocterine centre for The Euro Brigade. I AM NOT A TORY I have told you before. I just cannot abide the yobs and scumbags we are lumbard with. Who have all had a chance ,in some cases time and again. I would rather have a snob than a yob. Liars are the worst. Hypocrites are just as bad. Now I don't care what a persons politics are, or their religion, or what colour their skin is. If we lived our lives within the 10 commandments what a wonderful world it would be. I say this because even the thickest can be trained to abide by 10 simple rules.[/p][/quote]So how are we to achieve this re-education then? Is being done via some form of psychological re-alignment in order to change perceptions? Are the people failing because they believe themselves to be failures? Are they even sure what they believe themselves to be? It is very easy to make someone believe something. Will the psyops ever be admitted to?[/p][/quote]Got to be discipline, wev'e tried the carrot doesn't work.[/p][/quote]I hear Osborne's keen on both. He's asked Eric for the gag back. RollandSmoke

7:33pm Wed 18 Dec 13

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
scottie dog wrote:
It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.
Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies
Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.
Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?
We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench.
I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government.
Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed.
Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.
Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.
No comment on Balls, interesting.
For your info. my favorite musical is Les Miserables.
As for Bilderberg I think you'll find that the indocterine centre for The Euro Brigade. I AM NOT A TORY I have told you before. I just cannot abide the yobs and scumbags we are lumbard with. Who have all had a chance ,in some cases time and again.
I would rather have a snob than a yob.
Liars are the worst.
Hypocrites are just as bad.
Now I don't care what a persons politics are, or their religion, or what colour their skin is.
If we lived our lives within the 10 commandments what a wonderful world it would be. I say this because even the thickest can be trained to abide by 10 simple rules.
So how are we to achieve this re-education then? Is being done via some form of psychological re-alignment in order to change perceptions? Are the people failing because they believe themselves to be failures? Are they even sure what they believe themselves to be? It is very easy to make someone believe something. Will the psyops ever be admitted to?
Got to be discipline, wev'e tried the carrot doesn't work.
I hear Osborne's keen on both. He's asked Eric for the gag back.
Stop it! Your a Balls and Rev Flowers fan.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scottie dog[/bold] wrote: It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.[/p][/quote]Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.[/p][/quote]Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?[/p][/quote]We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench. I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government. Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed. Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.[/p][/quote]Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.[/p][/quote]No comment on Balls, interesting. For your info. my favorite musical is Les Miserables. As for Bilderberg I think you'll find that the indocterine centre for The Euro Brigade. I AM NOT A TORY I have told you before. I just cannot abide the yobs and scumbags we are lumbard with. Who have all had a chance ,in some cases time and again. I would rather have a snob than a yob. Liars are the worst. Hypocrites are just as bad. Now I don't care what a persons politics are, or their religion, or what colour their skin is. If we lived our lives within the 10 commandments what a wonderful world it would be. I say this because even the thickest can be trained to abide by 10 simple rules.[/p][/quote]So how are we to achieve this re-education then? Is being done via some form of psychological re-alignment in order to change perceptions? Are the people failing because they believe themselves to be failures? Are they even sure what they believe themselves to be? It is very easy to make someone believe something. Will the psyops ever be admitted to?[/p][/quote]Got to be discipline, wev'e tried the carrot doesn't work.[/p][/quote]I hear Osborne's keen on both. He's asked Eric for the gag back.[/p][/quote]Stop it! Your a Balls and Rev Flowers fan. alive and awake

8:04pm Wed 18 Dec 13

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
scottie dog wrote:
It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.
Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies
Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.
Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?
We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench.
I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government.
Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed.
Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.
Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.
No comment on Balls, interesting.
For your info. my favorite musical is Les Miserables.
As for Bilderberg I think you'll find that the indocterine centre for The Euro Brigade. I AM NOT A TORY I have told you before. I just cannot abide the yobs and scumbags we are lumbard with. Who have all had a chance ,in some cases time and again.
I would rather have a snob than a yob.
Liars are the worst.
Hypocrites are just as bad.
Now I don't care what a persons politics are, or their religion, or what colour their skin is.
If we lived our lives within the 10 commandments what a wonderful world it would be. I say this because even the thickest can be trained to abide by 10 simple rules.
So how are we to achieve this re-education then? Is being done via some form of psychological re-alignment in order to change perceptions? Are the people failing because they believe themselves to be failures? Are they even sure what they believe themselves to be? It is very easy to make someone believe something. Will the psyops ever be admitted to?
Got to be discipline, wev'e tried the carrot doesn't work.
I hear Osborne's keen on both. He's asked Eric for the gag back.
Stop it! Your a Balls and Rev Flowers fan.
Zack Goldsmith's a Tory isn't he? A real man of the people. Well he must be fairly sorted cos his sister is knocking off Russell Brand. I've found Russell's little speeches most amusing. Zack who is married to a Rothschild had another sister didn't he? It's nice that Russell has jumped up to be the voice of the troofers init?
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scottie dog[/bold] wrote: It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.[/p][/quote]Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.[/p][/quote]Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?[/p][/quote]We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench. I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government. Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed. Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.[/p][/quote]Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.[/p][/quote]No comment on Balls, interesting. For your info. my favorite musical is Les Miserables. As for Bilderberg I think you'll find that the indocterine centre for The Euro Brigade. I AM NOT A TORY I have told you before. I just cannot abide the yobs and scumbags we are lumbard with. Who have all had a chance ,in some cases time and again. I would rather have a snob than a yob. Liars are the worst. Hypocrites are just as bad. Now I don't care what a persons politics are, or their religion, or what colour their skin is. If we lived our lives within the 10 commandments what a wonderful world it would be. I say this because even the thickest can be trained to abide by 10 simple rules.[/p][/quote]So how are we to achieve this re-education then? Is being done via some form of psychological re-alignment in order to change perceptions? Are the people failing because they believe themselves to be failures? Are they even sure what they believe themselves to be? It is very easy to make someone believe something. Will the psyops ever be admitted to?[/p][/quote]Got to be discipline, wev'e tried the carrot doesn't work.[/p][/quote]I hear Osborne's keen on both. He's asked Eric for the gag back.[/p][/quote]Stop it! Your a Balls and Rev Flowers fan.[/p][/quote]Zack Goldsmith's a Tory isn't he? A real man of the people. Well he must be fairly sorted cos his sister is knocking off Russell Brand. I've found Russell's little speeches most amusing. Zack who is married to a Rothschild had another sister didn't he? It's nice that Russell has jumped up to be the voice of the troofers init? RollandSmoke

9:02pm Wed 18 Dec 13

lazybeat says...

who ate all the pies
who ate all the pies lazybeat

9:31pm Wed 18 Dec 13

alive and awake says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
scottie dog wrote:
It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.
Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies
Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.
Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?
We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench.
I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government.
Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed.
Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.
Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.
No comment on Balls, interesting.
For your info. my favorite musical is Les Miserables.
As for Bilderberg I think you'll find that the indocterine centre for The Euro Brigade. I AM NOT A TORY I have told you before. I just cannot abide the yobs and scumbags we are lumbard with. Who have all had a chance ,in some cases time and again.
I would rather have a snob than a yob.
Liars are the worst.
Hypocrites are just as bad.
Now I don't care what a persons politics are, or their religion, or what colour their skin is.
If we lived our lives within the 10 commandments what a wonderful world it would be. I say this because even the thickest can be trained to abide by 10 simple rules.
So how are we to achieve this re-education then? Is being done via some form of psychological re-alignment in order to change perceptions? Are the people failing because they believe themselves to be failures? Are they even sure what they believe themselves to be? It is very easy to make someone believe something. Will the psyops ever be admitted to?
Got to be discipline, wev'e tried the carrot doesn't work.
I hear Osborne's keen on both. He's asked Eric for the gag back.
Stop it! Your a Balls and Rev Flowers fan.
Zack Goldsmith's a Tory isn't he? A real man of the people. Well he must be fairly sorted cos his sister is knocking off Russell Brand. I've found Russell's little speeches most amusing. Zack who is married to a Rothschild had another sister didn't he? It's nice that Russell has jumped up to be the voice of the troofers init?
I wouldn't urinate on R. Brand if he was on fire.
He'll do doubt go the same way as other embarrassments have, sooner the better.
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scottie dog[/bold] wrote: It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.[/p][/quote]Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.[/p][/quote]Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?[/p][/quote]We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench. I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government. Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed. Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.[/p][/quote]Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.[/p][/quote]No comment on Balls, interesting. For your info. my favorite musical is Les Miserables. As for Bilderberg I think you'll find that the indocterine centre for The Euro Brigade. I AM NOT A TORY I have told you before. I just cannot abide the yobs and scumbags we are lumbard with. Who have all had a chance ,in some cases time and again. I would rather have a snob than a yob. Liars are the worst. Hypocrites are just as bad. Now I don't care what a persons politics are, or their religion, or what colour their skin is. If we lived our lives within the 10 commandments what a wonderful world it would be. I say this because even the thickest can be trained to abide by 10 simple rules.[/p][/quote]So how are we to achieve this re-education then? Is being done via some form of psychological re-alignment in order to change perceptions? Are the people failing because they believe themselves to be failures? Are they even sure what they believe themselves to be? It is very easy to make someone believe something. Will the psyops ever be admitted to?[/p][/quote]Got to be discipline, wev'e tried the carrot doesn't work.[/p][/quote]I hear Osborne's keen on both. He's asked Eric for the gag back.[/p][/quote]Stop it! Your a Balls and Rev Flowers fan.[/p][/quote]Zack Goldsmith's a Tory isn't he? A real man of the people. Well he must be fairly sorted cos his sister is knocking off Russell Brand. I've found Russell's little speeches most amusing. Zack who is married to a Rothschild had another sister didn't he? It's nice that Russell has jumped up to be the voice of the troofers init?[/p][/quote]I wouldn't urinate on R. Brand if he was on fire. He'll do doubt go the same way as other embarrassments have, sooner the better. alive and awake

10:30pm Wed 18 Dec 13

RollandSmoke says...

alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
alive and awake wrote:
scottie dog wrote:
It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.
Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies
Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.
Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?
We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench.
I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government.
Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed.
Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.
Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.
No comment on Balls, interesting.
For your info. my favorite musical is Les Miserables.
As for Bilderberg I think you'll find that the indocterine centre for The Euro Brigade. I AM NOT A TORY I have told you before. I just cannot abide the yobs and scumbags we are lumbard with. Who have all had a chance ,in some cases time and again.
I would rather have a snob than a yob.
Liars are the worst.
Hypocrites are just as bad.
Now I don't care what a persons politics are, or their religion, or what colour their skin is.
If we lived our lives within the 10 commandments what a wonderful world it would be. I say this because even the thickest can be trained to abide by 10 simple rules.
So how are we to achieve this re-education then? Is being done via some form of psychological re-alignment in order to change perceptions? Are the people failing because they believe themselves to be failures? Are they even sure what they believe themselves to be? It is very easy to make someone believe something. Will the psyops ever be admitted to?
Got to be discipline, wev'e tried the carrot doesn't work.
I hear Osborne's keen on both. He's asked Eric for the gag back.
Stop it! Your a Balls and Rev Flowers fan.
Zack Goldsmith's a Tory isn't he? A real man of the people. Well he must be fairly sorted cos his sister is knocking off Russell Brand. I've found Russell's little speeches most amusing. Zack who is married to a Rothschild had another sister didn't he? It's nice that Russell has jumped up to be the voice of the troofers init?
I wouldn't urinate on R. Brand if he was on fire.
He'll do doubt go the same way as other embarrassments have, sooner the better.
"Come with me and you'll be in a world of pure imagination". No thanks Russell I don't believe I can trust you.
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[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scottie dog[/bold] wrote: It is like the lobbying bill going through parliament at the present time, gagging charities and campaigners in the run up to the elections, we are becoming more and more controlled every day, and this does not apply solely to the present government but previous governments as well.[/p][/quote]Nobody controls more than the Labour Government. Total bullies Ed Balls, Rev Flowers they are all the same.[/p][/quote]Where as these lot are just fine upstanding gentlemen who are not into bullying or drugs at all? Is that really all you've got? I'd say they weren't paying you enough and it's left you demoralised but hey that's the Tories for you. I'm just confused as to why you enjoy it? Fill us in, what's the Tory vision as I've a feeling someones hallucinating? Where do you see this rollercoaster ride taking us? You sure we're not going to crash or run out of track?[/p][/quote]We almost did run out of track and crash but thank goodness the election came along. I can understand you not agreeing with some of the coaltion policies, but I cannot take you serious at all if you think things would be better under labour. I really haven't the patience to list all the c0ck ups of Blair, Brown, oh and Rev Flowers. I have lost a lot of money as a result of Browns incompetence, and cannot see a full recovery for at least 8 years. There are not many in the Commons who I consider fit to have my vote, but not one of them is on the Labour front bench. I will get great amusement watching the Millband, Balls saga developing over the next few months, difficult to all which one will be sacrificed, I hope both, which will put Labour back at least 5 years, leaving the way clear for a Tory Government. Then we can all enjoy watching Britain become strong again, because the Unions will be a thing of the passed. Then all the wasters will be re-educated and shown how to be upright citizens, contributing instead of draining our wealth.[/p][/quote]Are we talking re-education camps here? Have you got any costings? If not how will this work for the "wasters"? or as I like to call them the surplus commodity of labour. Simply starving them of resources does not educate them or create jobs. It may reduce their numbers but I think the word domicide is the best description of it's true nature. As regards Ed I expect his brother David coming back to the fold to help his bro out as unlike Ed David has attended Bilderberg and there's usually a reason people get invited there. Couldn't tell you what though. They tend to be a bit tight lipped.[/p][/quote]No comment on Balls, interesting. For your info. my favorite musical is Les Miserables. As for Bilderberg I think you'll find that the indocterine centre for The Euro Brigade. I AM NOT A TORY I have told you before. I just cannot abide the yobs and scumbags we are lumbard with. Who have all had a chance ,in some cases time and again. I would rather have a snob than a yob. Liars are the worst. Hypocrites are just as bad. Now I don't care what a persons politics are, or their religion, or what colour their skin is. If we lived our lives within the 10 commandments what a wonderful world it would be. I say this because even the thickest can be trained to abide by 10 simple rules.[/p][/quote]So how are we to achieve this re-education then? Is being done via some form of psychological re-alignment in order to change perceptions? Are the people failing because they believe themselves to be failures? Are they even sure what they believe themselves to be? It is very easy to make someone believe something. Will the psyops ever be admitted to?[/p][/quote]Got to be discipline, wev'e tried the carrot doesn't work.[/p][/quote]I hear Osborne's keen on both. He's asked Eric for the gag back.[/p][/quote]Stop it! Your a Balls and Rev Flowers fan.[/p][/quote]Zack Goldsmith's a Tory isn't he? A real man of the people. Well he must be fairly sorted cos his sister is knocking off Russell Brand. I've found Russell's little speeches most amusing. Zack who is married to a Rothschild had another sister didn't he? It's nice that Russell has jumped up to be the voice of the troofers init?[/p][/quote]I wouldn't urinate on R. Brand if he was on fire. He'll do doubt go the same way as other embarrassments have, sooner the better.[/p][/quote]"Come with me and you'll be in a world of pure imagination". No thanks Russell I don't believe I can trust you. http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ar chive/2013/12/15/108 78470.Russell_Brand_ s_clever_improvisati on_makes_for_divine_ comedy/ RollandSmoke

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