Bradford art treasure sale plan is 'vandalism'

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: George Galloway George Galloway

Bradford West MP George Galloway has condemned a proposal by Bradford’s Liberal Democrats and Conservatives that the city should sell off all or part of its arts treasures to fund slashed frontline services.

The suggestion has proved a huge talking point over the past week, with art greats such as Bradford-born David Hockney even getting involved in the debate.

Mr Galloway said the idea amounted to Coalition vandalism.

He said: “This Coalition Government is responsible for the cuts nationally and the cuts to the Council budget and now the two of them have the gall to pipe up that we should fund their vandalism and philistinism by selling off works which were gifted to this city.”

The Respect MP added the Council had a massive reserve fund to draw on, rather than selling the ‘civic silver’.

Councillor Jeanette Sunderland, Bradford’s Liberal Democrat leader, previously said a lot of the Council’s artworks were left sitting in storage and that by selling some of them, the authority could avoid having to cut funding to its youth services or closing children’s centres.

Councillor Glen Miller, leader of the Conservative group, had echoed her remarks.

But the suggestion met with dismay from artists and was ruled out by the Labour-led administration.

Bradford Council’s museum and gallery collection is now thought to be valued at £90 million, the authority has said.

Last week, it was revealed that the Council had upped its insurance cover after a fraction of its fine art was valued by auctioneers and found to be worth millions more than previously thought.

The authority has now insured its collection for £39 million, almost double the previous amount of £20 million.

The Council has now said that this insurance only covers high value pieces, and that the value of thousands of lower value items covered instead by the authority’s general insurance policies were worth an estimated £50 million.

A Council expert also said that according to the auctioneers, the value of some items had fallen rather than risen.

Maggie Pedley, Bradford Council’s museum and galleries manager, said: “The art market in particular is one that fluctuates quite widely and the purpose of the report to the Governance and Audit Committee was to make sure that our level of insurance is kept up to the value of the collection.

“At the valuation last year it should be noted that some items had decreased in value as well as some having increased.”

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9:14am Tue 3 Dec 13

GAMEKEEPER1809 says...

The value of the artworks changes every time I see it! It started out at £600,000,000, then it went to £38,000,000 now it's £90,000,000. Yet Gain, this says that BMDC are totally incompetent at EVERYTHING they are involved in.
The value of the artworks changes every time I see it! It started out at £600,000,000, then it went to £38,000,000 now it's £90,000,000. Yet Gain, this says that BMDC are totally incompetent at EVERYTHING they are involved in. GAMEKEEPER1809

9:45am Tue 3 Dec 13

alive and awake says...

Nobody cares what you say Galloway.
Nobody cares what you say Galloway. alive and awake

10:54am Tue 3 Dec 13

Albion. says...

GAMEKEEPER1809 wrote:
The value of the artworks changes every time I see it! It started out at £600,000,000, then it went to £38,000,000 now it's £90,000,000. Yet Gain, this says that BMDC are totally incompetent at EVERYTHING they are involved in.
The "value" is what someone will pay, even Christies and Sotherby's get things very wrong in their pre-auction estimates.
[quote][p][bold]GAMEKEEPER1809[/bold] wrote: The value of the artworks changes every time I see it! It started out at £600,000,000, then it went to £38,000,000 now it's £90,000,000. Yet Gain, this says that BMDC are totally incompetent at EVERYTHING they are involved in.[/p][/quote]The "value" is what someone will pay, even Christies and Sotherby's get things very wrong in their pre-auction estimates. Albion.

12:13pm Tue 3 Dec 13

bcfc1903 says...

Well said George....another excellent comment from a great MP.
Well said George....another excellent comment from a great MP. bcfc1903

12:14pm Tue 3 Dec 13

alive and awake says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Well said George....another excellent comment from a great MP.
You must be having a laugh.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Well said George....another excellent comment from a great MP.[/p][/quote]You must be having a laugh. alive and awake

12:35pm Tue 3 Dec 13

RollandSmoke says...

So if we are still looking for anything and everything to sell off is it safe to assume the governments talk of us being in recovery is yet another lie?
So if we are still looking for anything and everything to sell off is it safe to assume the governments talk of us being in recovery is yet another lie? RollandSmoke

1:50pm Tue 3 Dec 13

basil fawlty says...

It would be ridiculous to sell off the collection. As David Hockney said, you can only sell the family jewells once and then theyre gone forever.
If we have this fantastic collection then why aren't the council putting it on display as a major attraction? Maybe in a city centre art gallery/
It would be ridiculous to sell off the collection. As David Hockney said, you can only sell the family jewells once and then theyre gone forever. If we have this fantastic collection then why aren't the council putting it on display as a major attraction? Maybe in a city centre art gallery/ basil fawlty

2:00pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

GAMEKEEPER1809 wrote:
The value of the artworks changes every time I see it! It started out at £600,000,000, then it went to £38,000,000 now it's £90,000,000. Yet Gain, this says that BMDC are totally incompetent at EVERYTHING they are involved in.
You said it for me, I was about to mention the price failings too.

Galloway, this thing people is a sideshow and a laugh a minute when he goes to the media. It was his old party that he used to represent that created the present problem about the cuts when the Tories were left with a bill of £156 BILLION to sort out and even dead head Ed accepted there was overspending by the former government. Christ it's old news but not to be forgotten why we are in this state.

That also makes me laugh, the council have an expert. ok I won't elaborate but I'll chortle a bit.

They could have sold off the pieces they won't show but yet again it gets shouted down and in the council, I don't care what party runs the government, this lot are all the same and shambolic!
[quote][p][bold]GAMEKEEPER1809[/bold] wrote: The value of the artworks changes every time I see it! It started out at £600,000,000, then it went to £38,000,000 now it's £90,000,000. Yet Gain, this says that BMDC are totally incompetent at EVERYTHING they are involved in.[/p][/quote]You said it for me, I was about to mention the price failings too. Galloway, this thing people is a sideshow and a laugh a minute when he goes to the media. It was his old party that he used to represent that created the present problem about the cuts when the Tories were left with a bill of £156 BILLION to sort out and even dead head Ed accepted there was overspending by the former government. Christ it's old news but not to be forgotten why we are in this state. That also makes me laugh, the council have an expert. ok I won't elaborate but I'll chortle a bit. They could have sold off the pieces they won't show but yet again it gets shouted down and in the council, I don't care what party runs the government, this lot are all the same and shambolic! Papa Smurfs Wig

2:12pm Tue 3 Dec 13

RollandSmoke says...

Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
GAMEKEEPER1809 wrote:
The value of the artworks changes every time I see it! It started out at £600,000,000, then it went to £38,000,000 now it's £90,000,000. Yet Gain, this says that BMDC are totally incompetent at EVERYTHING they are involved in.
You said it for me, I was about to mention the price failings too.

Galloway, this thing people is a sideshow and a laugh a minute when he goes to the media. It was his old party that he used to represent that created the present problem about the cuts when the Tories were left with a bill of £156 BILLION to sort out and even dead head Ed accepted there was overspending by the former government. Christ it's old news but not to be forgotten why we are in this state.

That also makes me laugh, the council have an expert. ok I won't elaborate but I'll chortle a bit.

They could have sold off the pieces they won't show but yet again it gets shouted down and in the council, I don't care what party runs the government, this lot are all the same and shambolic!
So should all the banks have been left to collapse? How much of that figure is due to the bank bailouts? Of course you'll come back with "well why didn't they regulate the banks?" but anyone who takes an interest in politics rather than just reading the Daily Mail propaganda knows that every time they brought up the issue of regulating the banks the Tories screamed in opposition. They could have gone ahead with regulation regardless I suppose and for listening to the voices of the opposition they were wrong and failed to reduce the impact of the financial crisis. But tell me, in the past three years, what regulations have the Tories put in place for their banker chums? How much of the bailout money have they managed to recoup? Why has borrowing gone up so much when all the services have been cut to the bone? What have they spent this money on?
[quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GAMEKEEPER1809[/bold] wrote: The value of the artworks changes every time I see it! It started out at £600,000,000, then it went to £38,000,000 now it's £90,000,000. Yet Gain, this says that BMDC are totally incompetent at EVERYTHING they are involved in.[/p][/quote]You said it for me, I was about to mention the price failings too. Galloway, this thing people is a sideshow and a laugh a minute when he goes to the media. It was his old party that he used to represent that created the present problem about the cuts when the Tories were left with a bill of £156 BILLION to sort out and even dead head Ed accepted there was overspending by the former government. Christ it's old news but not to be forgotten why we are in this state. That also makes me laugh, the council have an expert. ok I won't elaborate but I'll chortle a bit. They could have sold off the pieces they won't show but yet again it gets shouted down and in the council, I don't care what party runs the government, this lot are all the same and shambolic![/p][/quote]So should all the banks have been left to collapse? How much of that figure is due to the bank bailouts? Of course you'll come back with "well why didn't they regulate the banks?" but anyone who takes an interest in politics rather than just reading the Daily Mail propaganda knows that every time they brought up the issue of regulating the banks the Tories screamed in opposition. They could have gone ahead with regulation regardless I suppose and for listening to the voices of the opposition they were wrong and failed to reduce the impact of the financial crisis. But tell me, in the past three years, what regulations have the Tories put in place for their banker chums? How much of the bailout money have they managed to recoup? Why has borrowing gone up so much when all the services have been cut to the bone? What have they spent this money on? RollandSmoke

7:14pm Tue 3 Dec 13

bcfc1903 says...

alive and awake wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Well said George....another excellent comment from a great MP.
You must be having a laugh.
Not at all, he's imo the best MP Bradford has had for years....Fred Jowett was good by all accounts many many years ago. George is a class act ...love the fellas independent point of view. Yet again he says it how it is...the idea of selling off the family silver is a disgrace!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]alive and awake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Well said George....another excellent comment from a great MP.[/p][/quote]You must be having a laugh.[/p][/quote]Not at all, he's imo the best MP Bradford has had for years....Fred Jowett was good by all accounts many many years ago. George is a class act ...love the fellas independent point of view. Yet again he says it how it is...the idea of selling off the family silver is a disgrace!!!!! bcfc1903

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