New library to be built in Bradford city centre

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Councillors Andrew Thornton and Susan Hinchcliffe outside the new City Library building in City Park Councillors Andrew Thornton and Susan Hinchcliffe outside the new City Library building in City Park

A new library in Bradford city centre is to be created after it was discovered that the existing Central Library is no longer fit for purpose.

The Bradford Council decision, which the Telegraph & Argus can exclusively reveal today, brings to an end nearly two years of uncertainty after the Central Library was deemed a fire risk by health and safety experts in October 2011.

To be known as City Library, the new facility will occupy the present Bradford 1 Gallery building and a large unit next to it in City Park.

It will open in December, complete with 60,000 books, 40 computers for public use, study space and Wi-Fi.

The Bradford 1 Gallery will move to Cartwright Hall in Lister Park.

The project will cost £9 million in total, of which £8m will be spent on the Central Library building to make it safe and convert it to offices and conference space for Council workers.

That cash will be clawed back by the Council through savings on rents being paid for privately-owned office space when staff move to the Central Library building and eventual savings on maintenance costs as the bill to rectify the existing library is £4.9m.

West Yorkshire Archive Service and Bradford Libraries Local Studies Library will stay at Central Library on the ground floor where users, using a dedicated entrance, can access archives from December this year.

A temporary children’s library called Park and Read will open in the City Park pavilion from next month until December.

Once the City Library opens in December, Park and Read will relocate to there.

The decision to relocate has been made after asbestos was discovered in Central Library and it was found that work to remedy that would take until at least December 2014.

Council leader Councillor David Green said: “When it was discovered that it wasn’t going to fit in with our timescales with the library we clearly thought about a way forward.

“We did take a look at the bigger picture and the priority for people in Bradford is having access to a high- class central library.

“This gives us the opportunity to look more creatively at things. All the issues we are looking at now and everything we do in the authority now is not about what happens this year or next, but do we have a sustainable future for the next ten to 15 years as well as providing day-to-day services?”

Councillor Susan Hinchcliffe, the Council’s executive member for culture, said: “It is fantastic that we have got this modern, light, airy space to house a library right next to City Park and Centenary Square. It enables us to deliver a 21st century library service.

“It is not just about books, it is about events. If you look at libraries across the district the highest visitor numbers are the ones that hold most events.

“City Library will have modern technology.”

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7:24am Wed 22 May 13

Albion. says...

All sounds too good to be true!
All sounds too good to be true! Albion.

7:55am Wed 22 May 13

OLDLAD says...

But still no news on a Westfield start date!!
But still no news on a Westfield start date!! OLDLAD

8:04am Wed 22 May 13

Mo Bradford says...

Seeing is believing! :)
Westfield...........
.........
Odeon...............
.........
Seeing is believing! :) Westfield........... ......... Odeon............... ......... Mo Bradford

8:12am Wed 22 May 13

schroeder says...

Sounds good, but I think Gallery 1 is a nice addition to the city centre and it would be a shame if it went.
Sounds good, but I think Gallery 1 is a nice addition to the city centre and it would be a shame if it went. schroeder

8:17am Wed 22 May 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

The council is not fit for purpose, can we have a new one of those too?
The council is not fit for purpose, can we have a new one of those too? Thee Voice of Reason

8:32am Wed 22 May 13

Avro says...

Ditto that TVR

No word on what is planned for the old library site?
Ditto that TVR No word on what is planned for the old library site? Avro

8:34am Wed 22 May 13

bhuna156 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
The council is not fit for purpose, can we have a new one of those too?
Some would say the same thing about you too.

Strange thing to say on a story that shows good initiative and positive action from the council.

Don't like what you're reading?

Child.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: The council is not fit for purpose, can we have a new one of those too?[/p][/quote]Some would say the same thing about you too. Strange thing to say on a story that shows good initiative and positive action from the council. Don't like what you're reading? Child. bhuna156

8:37am Wed 22 May 13

bhuna156 says...

Avro wrote:
Ditto that TVR No word on what is planned for the old library site?
"The project will cost £9 million in total, of which £8m will be spent on the Central Library building to make it safe and convert it to offices and conference space for Council workers."
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: Ditto that TVR No word on what is planned for the old library site?[/p][/quote]"The project will cost £9 million in total, of which £8m will be spent on the Central Library building to make it safe and convert it to offices and conference space for Council workers." bhuna156

8:42am Wed 22 May 13

bhuna156 says...

Fantastic. Having a modern library overlooking City Park can only be great news for Bradford.
The old library was depressing and ugly, inside and out.
Fantastic. Having a modern library overlooking City Park can only be great news for Bradford. The old library was depressing and ugly, inside and out. bhuna156

9:01am Wed 22 May 13

OLDLAD says...

Quick question. What is the cost of removing old library, considering asbestos problem, as no one has mentioned it.
Quick question. What is the cost of removing old library, considering asbestos problem, as no one has mentioned it. OLDLAD

9:11am Wed 22 May 13

Beckster55 says...

That gallery is tiny! Stinks of small town syndrome to me. Oh how I wish I lived in a "proper" city.
That gallery is tiny! Stinks of small town syndrome to me. Oh how I wish I lived in a "proper" city. Beckster55

9:36am Wed 22 May 13

collos25 says...

For 9 million its a bargain for tax payers .
For 9 million its a bargain for tax payers . collos25

9:41am Wed 22 May 13

JAtkinson says...

schroeder wrote:
Sounds good, but I think Gallery 1 is a nice addition to the city centre and it would be a shame if it went.
Agreed. I also think the art work in Gallery 1 is very different to that already in Cartwright Hall - will the styles jar?

However, placing reading and literacy at the heart of the city is a good one.
[quote][p][bold]schroeder[/bold] wrote: Sounds good, but I think Gallery 1 is a nice addition to the city centre and it would be a shame if it went.[/p][/quote]Agreed. I also think the art work in Gallery 1 is very different to that already in Cartwright Hall - will the styles jar? However, placing reading and literacy at the heart of the city is a good one. JAtkinson

10:06am Wed 22 May 13

Mr Bradford says...

Sounds like a good move to me! But the empty unit isn't right next to where Gallery 1 is, so how's that going to work?
Sounds like a good move to me! But the empty unit isn't right next to where Gallery 1 is, so how's that going to work? Mr Bradford

10:14am Wed 22 May 13

Albion. says...

Avro wrote:
Ditto that TVR

No word on what is planned for the old library site?
You obviously didn't read the report.
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: Ditto that TVR No word on what is planned for the old library site?[/p][/quote]You obviously didn't read the report. Albion.

10:31am Wed 22 May 13

yorkshiredude says...

I like that old Library building (I'm probably in a minority), glad it's going to stay.

It'd be good if Bradford One gallery could relocate in the city centre and make use of an empty shop or something, but I guess that'd come at an added cost to the council.
I like that old Library building (I'm probably in a minority), glad it's going to stay. It'd be good if Bradford One gallery could relocate in the city centre and make use of an empty shop or something, but I guess that'd come at an added cost to the council. yorkshiredude

10:52am Wed 22 May 13

Albion. says...

yorkshiredude wrote:
I like that old Library building (I'm probably in a minority), glad it's going to stay.

It'd be good if Bradford One gallery could relocate in the city centre and make use of an empty shop or something, but I guess that'd come at an added cost to the council.
"The Bradford 1 Gallery will move to Cartwright Hall in Lister Park."
[quote][p][bold]yorkshiredude[/bold] wrote: I like that old Library building (I'm probably in a minority), glad it's going to stay. It'd be good if Bradford One gallery could relocate in the city centre and make use of an empty shop or something, but I guess that'd come at an added cost to the council.[/p][/quote]"The Bradford 1 Gallery will move to Cartwright Hall in Lister Park." Albion.

10:56am Wed 22 May 13

June Oh says...

"The decision to relocate has been made after asbestos was discovered in Central Library"
That was said of the Odeon but that was taken out wasn't it?
Are the council going to look at other building and take asbestos out, particularly schools and hospitals.
"The decision to relocate has been made after asbestos was discovered in Central Library" That was said of the Odeon but that was taken out wasn't it? Are the council going to look at other building and take asbestos out, particularly schools and hospitals. June Oh

11:06am Wed 22 May 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

bhuna156 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
The council is not fit for purpose, can we have a new one of those too?
Some would say the same thing about you too.

Strange thing to say on a story that shows good initiative and positive action from the council.

Don't like what you're reading?

Child.
Not strange at all. Bradford council, no matter which group of lunatics are running the asylum have constantly driven this city into the ground, seemingly positive and easy projects are messed up, ruined or binned after hundreds of thousands of pounds wasted in consultancy fees, plans and architects drawings. The evidence is all around both inner and outer city areas.

Not fit for purpose, we'd be better becoming a suburb of Leeds, they seem to get every bit of funding necessary and majority of proposed projects off the ground. Our pathetic lot struggle to get a foot off the ground.

I'll sit back and wait to see A) this get binned or B) it costing 15M due to undiscovered issues.


Anyway undeserving council, don't forget to take your piece of reflected glory from tonight's parade, Bradford City have done more for this city in 12 months than the last 20 councils combined. Shameful.
[quote][p][bold]bhuna156[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: The council is not fit for purpose, can we have a new one of those too?[/p][/quote]Some would say the same thing about you too. Strange thing to say on a story that shows good initiative and positive action from the council. Don't like what you're reading? Child.[/p][/quote]Not strange at all. Bradford council, no matter which group of lunatics are running the asylum have constantly driven this city into the ground, seemingly positive and easy projects are messed up, ruined or binned after hundreds of thousands of pounds wasted in consultancy fees, plans and architects drawings. The evidence is all around both inner and outer city areas. Not fit for purpose, we'd be better becoming a suburb of Leeds, they seem to get every bit of funding necessary and majority of proposed projects off the ground. Our pathetic lot struggle to get a foot off the ground. I'll sit back and wait to see A) this get binned or B) it costing 15M due to undiscovered issues. Anyway undeserving council, don't forget to take your piece of reflected glory from tonight's parade, Bradford City have done more for this city in 12 months than the last 20 councils combined. Shameful. Prisoner Cell Block A

11:31am Wed 22 May 13

baccy2410 says...

would have thought the old Sunwin House/TJ Hughes building would have been used?
would have thought the old Sunwin House/TJ Hughes building would have been used? baccy2410

12:03pm Wed 22 May 13

Apollo says...

Avro wrote:
Ditto that TVR No word on what is planned for the old library site?
The ground floor of the old building is to house the archive service.

The other floors are to be used to accommodate other Council services.


Well at least according to my sources.
[quote][p][bold]Avro[/bold] wrote: Ditto that TVR No word on what is planned for the old library site?[/p][/quote]The ground floor of the old building is to house the archive service. The other floors are to be used to accommodate other Council services. Well at least according to my sources. Apollo

12:21pm Wed 22 May 13

thatsnotmyname says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
bhuna156 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
The council is not fit for purpose, can we have a new one of those too?
Some would say the same thing about you too.

Strange thing to say on a story that shows good initiative and positive action from the council.

Don't like what you're reading?

Child.
Not strange at all. Bradford council, no matter which group of lunatics are running the asylum have constantly driven this city into the ground, seemingly positive and easy projects are messed up, ruined or binned after hundreds of thousands of pounds wasted in consultancy fees, plans and architects drawings. The evidence is all around both inner and outer city areas.

Not fit for purpose, we'd be better becoming a suburb of Leeds, they seem to get every bit of funding necessary and majority of proposed projects off the ground. Our pathetic lot struggle to get a foot off the ground.

I'll sit back and wait to see A) this get binned or B) it costing 15M due to undiscovered issues.


Anyway undeserving council, don't forget to take your piece of reflected glory from tonight's parade, Bradford City have done more for this city in 12 months than the last 20 councils combined. Shameful.
If you lived on the Mildives you would moaning about the colour of the sand. People make a city not the council. They are there to serve us. Stop waiting for everything to be dine fir you and put some effort into making the city a better place rather than moaning about it on websites.

This is a great step forward although I do think we need an art gallery in the centre. Maybe thats what the Odeon could be.
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhuna156[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: The council is not fit for purpose, can we have a new one of those too?[/p][/quote]Some would say the same thing about you too. Strange thing to say on a story that shows good initiative and positive action from the council. Don't like what you're reading? Child.[/p][/quote]Not strange at all. Bradford council, no matter which group of lunatics are running the asylum have constantly driven this city into the ground, seemingly positive and easy projects are messed up, ruined or binned after hundreds of thousands of pounds wasted in consultancy fees, plans and architects drawings. The evidence is all around both inner and outer city areas. Not fit for purpose, we'd be better becoming a suburb of Leeds, they seem to get every bit of funding necessary and majority of proposed projects off the ground. Our pathetic lot struggle to get a foot off the ground. I'll sit back and wait to see A) this get binned or B) it costing 15M due to undiscovered issues. Anyway undeserving council, don't forget to take your piece of reflected glory from tonight's parade, Bradford City have done more for this city in 12 months than the last 20 councils combined. Shameful.[/p][/quote]If you lived on the Mildives you would moaning about the colour of the sand. People make a city not the council. They are there to serve us. Stop waiting for everything to be dine fir you and put some effort into making the city a better place rather than moaning about it on websites. This is a great step forward although I do think we need an art gallery in the centre. Maybe thats what the Odeon could be. thatsnotmyname

12:39pm Wed 22 May 13

scottie dog says...

Some joined up thinking I think it will be far better situated next to the park.
Some joined up thinking I think it will be far better situated next to the park. scottie dog

12:43pm Wed 22 May 13

BigFigure says...

Council "not fit for purpose"? Perhaps it's time to take the reins,usual suspects......http:/
/www.beacouncillor.o
rg.uk/
Council "not fit for purpose"? Perhaps it's time to take the reins,usual suspects......http:/ /www.beacouncillor.o rg.uk/ BigFigure

12:52pm Wed 22 May 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

the Central Library was deemed a fire risk by health and safety experts in October 2011


You have to love lines like this, for decades the library is fine, but health and safety experts in 2011 tell us it's a disaster waiting to happen. These the same health and safety experts who think anyone buying more than one packet of asprin is going to top themselves as soon as they get outside.

What gets me is £8m can be found to sort the old library building out, yet a few thousand pounds can't be found to keep local libraries open in the outer areas of Bradford. It seems the outer area's of Bradford are only good for cutting services and banging up houses on green belt land to bring in more council tax. Like cash cows they are milked so money can be poured into the cash sink of the inner city.
[quote]the Central Library was deemed a fire risk by health and safety experts in October 2011[/quote] You have to love lines like this, for decades the library is fine, but health and safety experts in 2011 tell us it's a disaster waiting to happen. These the same health and safety experts who think anyone buying more than one packet of asprin is going to top themselves as soon as they get outside. What gets me is £8m can be found to sort the old library building out, yet a few thousand pounds can't be found to keep local libraries open in the outer areas of Bradford. It seems the outer area's of Bradford are only good for cutting services and banging up houses on green belt land to bring in more council tax. Like cash cows they are milked so money can be poured into the cash sink of the inner city. Thee Voice of Reason

12:54pm Wed 22 May 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

BigFigure wrote:
Council "not fit for purpose"? Perhaps it's time to take the reins,usual suspects......http:/ /www.beacouncillor.o rg.uk/
How would people get voted in for trying to make a difference when the City is now at a state where people vote to keep their benefits and the status quo, a life off work.
[quote][p][bold]BigFigure[/bold] wrote: Council "not fit for purpose"? Perhaps it's time to take the reins,usual suspects......http:/ /www.beacouncillor.o rg.uk/[/p][/quote]How would people get voted in for trying to make a difference when the City is now at a state where people vote to keep their benefits and the status quo, a life off work. Thee Voice of Reason

2:31pm Wed 22 May 13

mary_wilkie says...

thatsnotmyname wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
bhuna156 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
The council is not fit for purpose, can we have a new one of those too?
Some would say the same thing about you too.

Strange thing to say on a story that shows good initiative and positive action from the council.

Don't like what you're reading?

Child.
Not strange at all. Bradford council, no matter which group of lunatics are running the asylum have constantly driven this city into the ground, seemingly positive and easy projects are messed up, ruined or binned after hundreds of thousands of pounds wasted in consultancy fees, plans and architects drawings. The evidence is all around both inner and outer city areas.

Not fit for purpose, we'd be better becoming a suburb of Leeds, they seem to get every bit of funding necessary and majority of proposed projects off the ground. Our pathetic lot struggle to get a foot off the ground.

I'll sit back and wait to see A) this get binned or B) it costing 15M due to undiscovered issues.


Anyway undeserving council, don't forget to take your piece of reflected glory from tonight's parade, Bradford City have done more for this city in 12 months than the last 20 councils combined. Shameful.
If you lived on the Mildives you would moaning about the colour of the sand. People make a city not the council. They are there to serve us. Stop waiting for everything to be dine fir you and put some effort into making the city a better place rather than moaning about it on websites.

This is a great step forward although I do think we need an art gallery in the centre. Maybe thats what the Odeon could be.
Not clear from article, but there will still be a gallery in the city centre as I think the impressions photography gallery will stay where it is and share the venue with library (as it does now with the BD1 council gallery)
[quote][p][bold]thatsnotmyname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhuna156[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: The council is not fit for purpose, can we have a new one of those too?[/p][/quote]Some would say the same thing about you too. Strange thing to say on a story that shows good initiative and positive action from the council. Don't like what you're reading? Child.[/p][/quote]Not strange at all. Bradford council, no matter which group of lunatics are running the asylum have constantly driven this city into the ground, seemingly positive and easy projects are messed up, ruined or binned after hundreds of thousands of pounds wasted in consultancy fees, plans and architects drawings. The evidence is all around both inner and outer city areas. Not fit for purpose, we'd be better becoming a suburb of Leeds, they seem to get every bit of funding necessary and majority of proposed projects off the ground. Our pathetic lot struggle to get a foot off the ground. I'll sit back and wait to see A) this get binned or B) it costing 15M due to undiscovered issues. Anyway undeserving council, don't forget to take your piece of reflected glory from tonight's parade, Bradford City have done more for this city in 12 months than the last 20 councils combined. Shameful.[/p][/quote]If you lived on the Mildives you would moaning about the colour of the sand. People make a city not the council. They are there to serve us. Stop waiting for everything to be dine fir you and put some effort into making the city a better place rather than moaning about it on websites. This is a great step forward although I do think we need an art gallery in the centre. Maybe thats what the Odeon could be.[/p][/quote]Not clear from article, but there will still be a gallery in the city centre as I think the impressions photography gallery will stay where it is and share the venue with library (as it does now with the BD1 council gallery) mary_wilkie

4:51pm Wed 22 May 13

The Hoffster says...

thatsnotmyname wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
bhuna156 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
The council is not fit for purpose, can we have a new one of those too?
Some would say the same thing about you too.

Strange thing to say on a story that shows good initiative and positive action from the council.

Don't like what you're reading?

Child.
Not strange at all. Bradford council, no matter which group of lunatics are running the asylum have constantly driven this city into the ground, seemingly positive and easy projects are messed up, ruined or binned after hundreds of thousands of pounds wasted in consultancy fees, plans and architects drawings. The evidence is all around both inner and outer city areas.

Not fit for purpose, we'd be better becoming a suburb of Leeds, they seem to get every bit of funding necessary and majority of proposed projects off the ground. Our pathetic lot struggle to get a foot off the ground.

I'll sit back and wait to see A) this get binned or B) it costing 15M due to undiscovered issues.


Anyway undeserving council, don't forget to take your piece of reflected glory from tonight's parade, Bradford City have done more for this city in 12 months than the last 20 councils combined. Shameful.
If you lived on the Mildives you would moaning about the colour of the sand. People make a city not the council. They are there to serve us. Stop waiting for everything to be dine fir you and put some effort into making the city a better place rather than moaning about it on websites.

This is a great step forward although I do think we need an art gallery in the centre. Maybe thats what the Odeon could be.
*We* (i.e. those who pay taxes) have absolutely no say whatsoever in how *our* money is spent.

As 'Prisoner' has stated, so much has been wasted on fees, consultations etc...

Why isn't anyone in the corrupt Council ever held responsible for the heinous 'mistakes' they make?
[quote][p][bold]thatsnotmyname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhuna156[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: The council is not fit for purpose, can we have a new one of those too?[/p][/quote]Some would say the same thing about you too. Strange thing to say on a story that shows good initiative and positive action from the council. Don't like what you're reading? Child.[/p][/quote]Not strange at all. Bradford council, no matter which group of lunatics are running the asylum have constantly driven this city into the ground, seemingly positive and easy projects are messed up, ruined or binned after hundreds of thousands of pounds wasted in consultancy fees, plans and architects drawings. The evidence is all around both inner and outer city areas. Not fit for purpose, we'd be better becoming a suburb of Leeds, they seem to get every bit of funding necessary and majority of proposed projects off the ground. Our pathetic lot struggle to get a foot off the ground. I'll sit back and wait to see A) this get binned or B) it costing 15M due to undiscovered issues. Anyway undeserving council, don't forget to take your piece of reflected glory from tonight's parade, Bradford City have done more for this city in 12 months than the last 20 councils combined. Shameful.[/p][/quote]If you lived on the Mildives you would moaning about the colour of the sand. People make a city not the council. They are there to serve us. Stop waiting for everything to be dine fir you and put some effort into making the city a better place rather than moaning about it on websites. This is a great step forward although I do think we need an art gallery in the centre. Maybe thats what the Odeon could be.[/p][/quote]*We* (i.e. those who pay taxes) have absolutely no say whatsoever in how *our* money is spent. As 'Prisoner' has stated, so much has been wasted on fees, consultations etc... Why isn't anyone in the corrupt Council ever held responsible for the heinous 'mistakes' they make? The Hoffster

5:08pm Wed 22 May 13

Albion. says...

The Hoffster wrote:
thatsnotmyname wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
bhuna156 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
The council is not fit for purpose, can we have a new one of those too?
Some would say the same thing about you too.

Strange thing to say on a story that shows good initiative and positive action from the council.

Don't like what you're reading?

Child.
Not strange at all. Bradford council, no matter which group of lunatics are running the asylum have constantly driven this city into the ground, seemingly positive and easy projects are messed up, ruined or binned after hundreds of thousands of pounds wasted in consultancy fees, plans and architects drawings. The evidence is all around both inner and outer city areas.

Not fit for purpose, we'd be better becoming a suburb of Leeds, they seem to get every bit of funding necessary and majority of proposed projects off the ground. Our pathetic lot struggle to get a foot off the ground.

I'll sit back and wait to see A) this get binned or B) it costing 15M due to undiscovered issues.


Anyway undeserving council, don't forget to take your piece of reflected glory from tonight's parade, Bradford City have done more for this city in 12 months than the last 20 councils combined. Shameful.
If you lived on the Mildives you would moaning about the colour of the sand. People make a city not the council. They are there to serve us. Stop waiting for everything to be dine fir you and put some effort into making the city a better place rather than moaning about it on websites.

This is a great step forward although I do think we need an art gallery in the centre. Maybe thats what the Odeon could be.
*We* (i.e. those who pay taxes) have absolutely no say whatsoever in how *our* money is spent.

As 'Prisoner' has stated, so much has been wasted on fees, consultations etc...

Why isn't anyone in the corrupt Council ever held responsible for the heinous 'mistakes' they make?
They are! At election time (Ian Greenwood?).
[quote][p][bold]The Hoffster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thatsnotmyname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bhuna156[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: The council is not fit for purpose, can we have a new one of those too?[/p][/quote]Some would say the same thing about you too. Strange thing to say on a story that shows good initiative and positive action from the council. Don't like what you're reading? Child.[/p][/quote]Not strange at all. Bradford council, no matter which group of lunatics are running the asylum have constantly driven this city into the ground, seemingly positive and easy projects are messed up, ruined or binned after hundreds of thousands of pounds wasted in consultancy fees, plans and architects drawings. The evidence is all around both inner and outer city areas. Not fit for purpose, we'd be better becoming a suburb of Leeds, they seem to get every bit of funding necessary and majority of proposed projects off the ground. Our pathetic lot struggle to get a foot off the ground. I'll sit back and wait to see A) this get binned or B) it costing 15M due to undiscovered issues. Anyway undeserving council, don't forget to take your piece of reflected glory from tonight's parade, Bradford City have done more for this city in 12 months than the last 20 councils combined. Shameful.[/p][/quote]If you lived on the Mildives you would moaning about the colour of the sand. People make a city not the council. They are there to serve us. Stop waiting for everything to be dine fir you and put some effort into making the city a better place rather than moaning about it on websites. This is a great step forward although I do think we need an art gallery in the centre. Maybe thats what the Odeon could be.[/p][/quote]*We* (i.e. those who pay taxes) have absolutely no say whatsoever in how *our* money is spent. As 'Prisoner' has stated, so much has been wasted on fees, consultations etc... Why isn't anyone in the corrupt Council ever held responsible for the heinous 'mistakes' they make?[/p][/quote]They are! At election time (Ian Greenwood?). Albion.

6:02pm Wed 22 May 13

vikksy says...

There is a perfect building nearby that has domes on top, Great for library and art gallery.
There is a perfect building nearby that has domes on top, Great for library and art gallery. vikksy

6:25pm Wed 22 May 13

collos25 says...

No there not they should be investigated by the police from another area and if a crime has been committed then they should stand trial.I think any right minded person would think there is corruption in various places within the council but before any one can speculate it needs a thorough investigation.
No there not they should be investigated by the police from another area and if a crime has been committed then they should stand trial.I think any right minded person would think there is corruption in various places within the council but before any one can speculate it needs a thorough investigation. collos25

7:52pm Wed 22 May 13

MontyLeMar says...

Beckster55 wrote:
That gallery is tiny! Stinks of small town syndrome to me. Oh how I wish I lived in a "proper" city.
I agree but to be honest I no longer need a library. I have a smartphone and netbook and between the two I have more research potential at my finger tips than the designer of our central library could ever have dreamed of back in the 1960's. I used to use the library way back then but to be honest, it is now obsolete. The one thing it did do though is provide a quiet, warm place to read the newspapers. Now I suppose I'll have to make do with a quiet coffee in 'spoons instead.
[quote][p][bold]Beckster55[/bold] wrote: That gallery is tiny! Stinks of small town syndrome to me. Oh how I wish I lived in a "proper" city.[/p][/quote]I agree but to be honest I no longer need a library. I have a smartphone and netbook and between the two I have more research potential at my finger tips than the designer of our central library could ever have dreamed of back in the 1960's. I used to use the library way back then but to be honest, it is now obsolete. The one thing it did do though is provide a quiet, warm place to read the newspapers. Now I suppose I'll have to make do with a quiet coffee in 'spoons instead. MontyLeMar

8:35pm Wed 22 May 13

Appman says...

So when it moves will the Bradford 1 Gallery become the Bradford 9 Gallery?
So when it moves will the Bradford 1 Gallery become the Bradford 9 Gallery? Appman

12:02am Thu 23 May 13

6teddies says...

I'd like to know when they are going to knock the townhall down that serves no purpose so again instead of fixing the problem they bodge it by saying the library has had it unable to sort the matter out demolish it thats all the council can do.
Knock it down the way things are going there wont be a city to come to soon ie lack of buildings
I'd like to know when they are going to knock the townhall down that serves no purpose so again instead of fixing the problem they bodge it by saying the library has had it unable to sort the matter out demolish it thats all the council can do. Knock it down the way things are going there wont be a city to come to soon ie lack of buildings 6teddies

12:08am Thu 23 May 13

6teddies says...

Do you ever wonder if the council read any of these comments?
Do you ever wonder if the council read any of these comments? 6teddies

12:12am Thu 23 May 13

6teddies says...

if they are going to make the building safe for office use why can't we have it as the library oh i know sell it on yes thats what the thickys do so whats the next building to go any offers
if they are going to make the building safe for office use why can't we have it as the library oh i know sell it on yes thats what the thickys do so whats the next building to go any offers 6teddies

12:18am Thu 23 May 13

6teddies says...

When it was discovered that it wasn’t going to fit in with our timescales with the library we clearly thought about a way backwards

yes this is correct as bradford is backwards bouncing back in to the gutter
When it was discovered that it wasn’t going to fit in with our timescales with the library we clearly thought about a way backwards yes this is correct as bradford is backwards bouncing back in to the gutter 6teddies

1:01am Thu 23 May 13

Steve30d says...

collos25 wrote:
No there not they should be investigated by the police from another area and if a crime has been committed then they should stand trial.I think any right minded person would think there is corruption in various places within the council but before any one can speculate it needs a thorough investigation.
As I've said previously look up Clay Cross.
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: No there not they should be investigated by the police from another area and if a crime has been committed then they should stand trial.I think any right minded person would think there is corruption in various places within the council but before any one can speculate it needs a thorough investigation.[/p][/quote]As I've said previously look up Clay Cross. Steve30d

12:30pm Thu 23 May 13

Andy2010 says...

Whats the point in spending £9m on this project when it will hardly be used

Libraries since the progression of technology as no longer really needed and are only a niche market at best

The money would be better spent on pushing Westfield forward or revamping the Odean to a music venue bringing in revenue and tourists to the centre

Mind you the council dont have much common sense do they really
Whats the point in spending £9m on this project when it will hardly be used Libraries since the progression of technology as no longer really needed and are only a niche market at best The money would be better spent on pushing Westfield forward or revamping the Odean to a music venue bringing in revenue and tourists to the centre Mind you the council dont have much common sense do they really Andy2010

12:52pm Thu 23 May 13

GlobalSingh says...

Great news...Libraries are the fulcrum of any town and city's education and Bradford needs more citizens reading and learning to become an asset to society...Education is the key to a civilised society and community.
Great news...Libraries are the fulcrum of any town and city's education and Bradford needs more citizens reading and learning to become an asset to society...Education is the key to a civilised society and community. GlobalSingh

8:43am Fri 24 May 13

Andy2010 says...

GlobalSingh wrote:
Great news...Libraries are the fulcrum of any town and city's education and Bradford needs more citizens reading and learning to become an asset to society...Education is the key to a civilised society and community.
In the last century perhaps. Libraries are dead in the water now in comparison to the information available at the your fingertips instantly anywhere
[quote][p][bold]GlobalSingh[/bold] wrote: Great news...Libraries are the fulcrum of any town and city's education and Bradford needs more citizens reading and learning to become an asset to society...Education is the key to a civilised society and community.[/p][/quote]In the last century perhaps. Libraries are dead in the water now in comparison to the information available at the your fingertips instantly anywhere Andy2010

7:18pm Fri 24 May 13

GlobalSingh says...

The PC,Tablet etc are awesome innovations but they are extremely dangerous instruments in the wrong hands as we are finding out to our horror!...And by staring at screens and accessing the 'dark' side of the internet so many humans are damaging themselves and their ability to interact with other humans! and a recent UN report has exposed just how widespread this trend is becoming...So perhaps popping down to the Library might be a good 'therapy' for addiction to the Internet and some of the unsavoury things morbidly 'curious' citizens want to access including how to harm other Humans because they follow a different ideology...So Libraries with lovely Librarians who smile at you and exchange pleasantries are always a good sign that Humanity and its inherent goodness still exists!
The PC,Tablet etc are awesome innovations but they are extremely dangerous instruments in the wrong hands as we are finding out to our horror!...And by staring at screens and accessing the 'dark' side of the internet so many humans are damaging themselves and their ability to interact with other humans! and a recent UN report has exposed just how widespread this trend is becoming...So perhaps popping down to the Library might be a good 'therapy' for addiction to the Internet and some of the unsavoury things morbidly 'curious' citizens want to access including how to harm other Humans because they follow a different ideology...So Libraries with lovely Librarians who smile at you and exchange pleasantries are always a good sign that Humanity and its inherent goodness still exists! GlobalSingh

7:41pm Fri 24 May 13

Beckster55 says...

Great...get all your information of Wikipedia. Books are written by real people, not anyone or everyone
Great...get all your information of Wikipedia. Books are written by real people, not anyone or everyone Beckster55

1:04am Sat 25 May 13

Mr_Army says...

I'm feeling particularly cynical today. It seems to me to read as 'spending £1million on moving some of the library and £8million on swanky new offices and conference facilities for ourselves'
I'm feeling particularly cynical today. It seems to me to read as 'spending £1million on moving some of the library and £8million on swanky new offices and conference facilities for ourselves' Mr_Army

4:17pm Thu 6 Jun 13

ChrisDyson says...

RIGHT! I would absolutley love to hear what the council's definition for this city doing well! I am a local photography student at the university and I am out raged that they plan to "move" the impressions gallery. that building Is no where near big enough to house a library! They're planning to spend 8 mill on renovating the library to accommodate offices?!?!?! like there isn't enough empty offices in Bradford as it is! Why for the love of that all that is holy are they not completely re-doing the library to become a better library!??!!? instead of claiming that Bradford is "full of culture" and "a vibrant city for the arts" and all that tosh when you're taking away one of the ever decreasing short list of what is known as culture in this city. please don't get me wrong for someone typical that rant on about "Bradford sucks ...I want to move else where" I love this city as it is my home, but it becoming ever so much hard to love this place when bradfordians keep getting stabbed in the back because with thing like this, the Odeon, the shopping centre that was supposed to have been built 10 year ago, the increasing amount of vacant high street shops and the recent threat of the bleeming media museum closure! and now this!!! I think that we deserve some thought in to how this city is being developed instead of being fed empty promises...rant over....
RIGHT! I would absolutley love to hear what the council's definition for this city doing well! I am a local photography student at the university and I am out raged that they plan to "move" the impressions gallery. that building Is no where near big enough to house a library! They're planning to spend 8 mill on renovating the library to accommodate offices?!?!?! like there isn't enough empty offices in Bradford as it is! Why for the love of that all that is holy are they not completely re-doing the library to become a better library!??!!? instead of claiming that Bradford is "full of culture" and "a vibrant city for the arts" and all that tosh when you're taking away one of the ever decreasing short list of what is known as culture in this city. please don't get me wrong for someone typical that rant on about "Bradford sucks ...I want to move else where" I love this city as it is my home, but it becoming ever so much hard to love this place when bradfordians keep getting stabbed in the back because with thing like this, the Odeon, the shopping centre that was supposed to have been built 10 year ago, the increasing amount of vacant high street shops and the recent threat of the bleeming media museum closure! and now this!!! I think that we deserve some thought in to how this city is being developed instead of being fed empty promises...rant over.... ChrisDyson

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