Baildon play area spending plans criticised (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Baildon play area spending plans criticised
9:00am Monday 10th December 2012 in News
Parish councillor Ian Lyons at the Southcliffe Drive play area, where he says the money should be spent
A Baildon councillor denied that Bradford Council is diverting money from the poorer part of the village to the more affluent part because people there are more likely to vote.
Parish councillor Ian Lyons made the claim that money to improve play areas in the village was not being spent where it should be – on Southcliffe Drive, a play area he says has seen little investment for decades.
Instead he accuses the three Bradford councillors of ploughing the money into the west of the town, a well-off area where he says no-one wants or needs a play area.
The money has come from companies behind recent developments in the town. Referred to as 106 money, it is intended to improve local facilities.
Councillor Debbie Davies (Con, Baildon) believes the Council has its priorities right, saying the money will eventually lead to two play areas instead of focusing it all on one.
Of the money, £12,500 has been allocated for the Southcliffe Drive play area and £53,350 for a new play area near West Lane, near the recent reservoir development.
A further £42,680 is set aside for new sports facilities.
Speaking about the condition of the Southcliffe Drive play area, Coun Lyons said: “I used to live their in the 1980s and I don’t think it’s had anything done since. The play area is in a real state.
“The parish council has put a huge amount of effort in and we have got people’s expectations up something will be done there. But is has been decided money should instead be spent in the most affluent area of Baildon. It is a typical example of spending money in the rich area where more people vote.”
He said the west of the town had open spaces that were “natural play areas.”
Coun Davis denied the Council had effectively ignored the Southcliffe Drive site.
She said: “We have allocated £12,500 to it. If we put all the money in there then yes, that play area could be fixed tomorrow, but people who live near West Lane wouldn’t have a play area. Southcliffe drive play area might be a bit grotty, but at least they have one.”
Comments(19)
JohnnyBd
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12:41pm Mon 10 Dec 12
Dragon Saddle
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12:43pm Mon 10 Dec 12
It probably should be a Town. With 15,000 people living there, it's hardly a village anymore.
Dragon Saddle
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12:45pm Mon 10 Dec 12
JohnnyBd wrote:Doesn't the development affect everyone? The queues on Baildon road for a start.
Surely the money for the play area on West Lane was money the building company had to allocate to get planning permission. The money would not be available without the new estate; therefore it should be spent in that area, as they have had the inconvenience of building an estate. The new estate will also house lots of families who are also entitled to a play area. Southcliffe have a play area already and it has money allocated to improve it. I don’t really understand what Ian Lyon's point is, is it just to score points against the Baildon Counsellors or to get his name in the paper ...again?
JohnnyBd
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12:54pm Mon 10 Dec 12
Dragon Saddle wrote:Yes it affects everyone, perhaps people on West Lane having to drive to a local park would add to traffic in the village too? Anyhow, they are big houses up there in the "rich area" so the estate is not actually that big, undoubtedly there will be more children than cars on the new estate too.
JohnnyBd wrote:Doesn't the development affect everyone? The queues on Baildon road for a start.
Surely the money for the play area on West Lane was money the building company had to allocate to get planning permission. The money would not be available without the new estate; therefore it should be spent in that area, as they have had the inconvenience of building an estate. The new estate will also house lots of families who are also entitled to a play area. Southcliffe have a play area already and it has money allocated to improve it. I don’t really understand what Ian Lyon's point is, is it just to score points against the Baildon Counsellors or to get his name in the paper ...again?
swingvota
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1:17pm Mon 10 Dec 12
Use the next lot of cash for West Lane, if it's so important, and use the time in between to plan it properly.
ANY WHERE BUT HERE
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1:20pm Mon 10 Dec 12
Seems like the poor are getting more and more out of control. Not much grouse on Shipley Glenn no'more, could always shoot the poor?
Paul Marfell
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2:11pm Mon 10 Dec 12
At long last the S106 money for the West Lane Reservoir development is to be spent. Hurray.
Parish Council Play Area Audit - http://baildonparish
council.gov.uk/websi
te/index.php/facilit
ies/play-areas
Paul Marfell
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2:16pm Mon 10 Dec 12
council.gov.uk/websi
te/index.php/doc-rem
os/Miscellaneous/Wes
t-Lane-Section-106-A
greement/
It looks as though links get messed up so go to
baildonparishcouncil
.gov.uk
click on "Documents" then "Miscellaneous" then "Page 2" and finally "West Lane Section 106 Agreement"
RollandSmoke
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4:09pm Mon 10 Dec 12
ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:Of course the grotty play area will be much safer as they will always have the police servailing it and having regular chats with the kids. They're not needed up in the more affluent parts because the kids there would never dream of spending their allowance on drugs and the parents would be outraged if they ended up with a conviction that could ruin their future job prospects. The Shipley Glenn poor shoot will be proposed at the next lodge meeting.
Councillor Davies is right, They should be happy with there (GROTTY) bit of play area.
Seems like the poor are getting more and more out of control. Not much grouse on Shipley Glenn no'more, could always shoot the poor?
Baildon Mum
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4:15pm Mon 10 Dec 12
gregort
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4:21pm Mon 10 Dec 12
Albion.
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4:32pm Mon 10 Dec 12
RollandSmoke wrote:Woof!
ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:Of course the grotty play area will be much safer as they will always have the police servailing it and having regular chats with the kids. They're not needed up in the more affluent parts because the kids there would never dream of spending their allowance on drugs and the parents would be outraged if they ended up with a conviction that could ruin their future job prospects. The Shipley Glenn poor shoot will be proposed at the next lodge meeting.
Councillor Davies is right, They should be happy with there (GROTTY) bit of play area.
Seems like the poor are getting more and more out of control. Not much grouse on Shipley Glenn no'more, could always shoot the poor?
RollandSmoke
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4:37pm Mon 10 Dec 12
Albion. wrote:Are you a member of Corinthian Lodge No.3600 down Hoyle Court Albion?
RollandSmoke wrote:Woof!
ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:Of course the grotty play area will be much safer as they will always have the police servailing it and having regular chats with the kids. They're not needed up in the more affluent parts because the kids there would never dream of spending their allowance on drugs and the parents would be outraged if they ended up with a conviction that could ruin their future job prospects. The Shipley Glenn poor shoot will be proposed at the next lodge meeting.
Councillor Davies is right, They should be happy with there (GROTTY) bit of play area.
Seems like the poor are getting more and more out of control. Not much grouse on Shipley Glenn no'more, could always shoot the poor?
Albion.
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4:42pm Mon 10 Dec 12
RollandSmoke wrote:No, I'm a member of the kennel club.
Albion. wrote:Are you a member of Corinthian Lodge No.3600 down Hoyle Court Albion?
RollandSmoke wrote:Woof!
ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:Of course the grotty play area will be much safer as they will always have the police servailing it and having regular chats with the kids. They're not needed up in the more affluent parts because the kids there would never dream of spending their allowance on drugs and the parents would be outraged if they ended up with a conviction that could ruin their future job prospects. The Shipley Glenn poor shoot will be proposed at the next lodge meeting.
Councillor Davies is right, They should be happy with there (GROTTY) bit of play area.
Seems like the poor are getting more and more out of control. Not much grouse on Shipley Glenn no'more, could always shoot the poor?
RollandSmoke
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4:53pm Mon 10 Dec 12
Albion. wrote:Are you a fluffy white westie? or more of a rabid stalker type of dog?
RollandSmoke wrote:No, I'm a member of the kennel club.
Albion. wrote:Are you a member of Corinthian Lodge No.3600 down Hoyle Court Albion?
RollandSmoke wrote:Woof!
ANY WHERE BUT HERE wrote:Of course the grotty play area will be much safer as they will always have the police servailing it and having regular chats with the kids. They're not needed up in the more affluent parts because the kids there would never dream of spending their allowance on drugs and the parents would be outraged if they ended up with a conviction that could ruin their future job prospects. The Shipley Glenn poor shoot will be proposed at the next lodge meeting.
Councillor Davies is right, They should be happy with there (GROTTY) bit of play area.
Seems like the poor are getting more and more out of control. Not much grouse on Shipley Glenn no'more, could always shoot the poor?
Dragon Saddle
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5:13pm Mon 10 Dec 12
Baildon Mum wrote:I'm curious, where do you think it should it be placed?
It's about time the children along West Lane got a play area. I've lived here for 20 years and have always said it's an amenity sadly lacking in the area. The nearest play area is on Jenny Lane nearly 1.5 miles away. The children on Southcliffe Drive not only have a local play area, but there is also a newly upgraded one on Cliffe Ave (just opposite Mr Lyon's house in case he doesn't remember!). This is only half a mile from the Southcliffe Drive area and there is also plenty of open space at Ferniehurst Dell where they can play. I would hardly say that the majority of people on West Lane would class themselves as rich, they just mainly have jobs and work hard rather then rely on benefits and pay highly inflated council tax for the privilege!
ollie59
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7:36pm Mon 10 Dec 12
JohnnyBd wrote:I think it's an attempt to score points AND to get his name in the paper again. I recall he's tried for a number of elected positions with a whole raft of self publicity, but only managed the parish council. Maybe it's frustration or an early start to his next campaign.
Surely the money for the play area on West Lane was money the building company had to allocate to get planning permission. The money would not be available without the new estate; therefore it should be spent in that area, as they have had the inconvenience of building an estate. The new estate will also house lots of families who are also entitled to a play area. Southcliffe have a play area already and it has money allocated to improve it. I don’t really understand what Ian Lyon's point is, is it just to score points against the Baildon Counsellors or to get his name in the paper ...again?
swingvota
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11:14pm Mon 10 Dec 12
ollie59 wrote:Yeah, it's probably all part of an evil plan to tax the rich and help the poor. Probably start campaigning for human rights next. **** Liberals never know when they're outnumbered.
JohnnyBd wrote:I think it's an attempt to score points AND to get his name in the paper again. I recall he's tried for a number of elected positions with a whole raft of self publicity, but only managed the parish council. Maybe it's frustration or an early start to his next campaign.
Surely the money for the play area on West Lane was money the building company had to allocate to get planning permission. The money would not be available without the new estate; therefore it should be spent in that area, as they have had the inconvenience of building an estate. The new estate will also house lots of families who are also entitled to a play area. Southcliffe have a play area already and it has money allocated to improve it. I don’t really understand what Ian Lyon's point is, is it just to score points against the Baildon Counsellors or to get his name in the paper ...again?
Albion. says...
11:31am Mon 10 Dec 12