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7:40am Wednesday 26th November 2008

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Stuart McCall today launched an urgent hunt for a loan winger after City’s thrilling comeback win was marred by an injury to Omar Daley.

The Bantams moved up to second in the table after coming from two down to beat Chesterfield 3-2 in a Valley Parade thriller.

Barry Conlon netted his 100th league goal with a coolly-taken penalty to seal the fightback after Graeme Lee’s free-kick and a Michael Boulding header had pegged back the visitors.

But City’s joy was tempered after Daley pulled his hamstring – and could be out for up to a month.

With Joe Colbeck sidelined until the new year, McCall will step up his on-going search for a fill-in wideman ahead of tomorrow’s tea-time transfer deadline.

McCall, who has been linked with Burnley’s Steve Jones, has also been looking at former Leeds midfielder Seb Carole in training.

He said: “It’s getting to the stage where we have to get someone in and I’ll be making another phonecall.

“Omar got a knock before half-time on his knee and maybe he’s been running a bit differently to compensate for that. It’s disappointing news to find out it’s his hamstring and we could be looking at anything from two to four weeks out.”

McCall was delighted with the character displayed by his side to recover from a shocking start.

“We knew what we were up against and Chesterfield would create chances because of the players they have but I always felt we might get back in the game. We kept at it and at half-time there was a real desire in the dressing room to go on and win it.

“It’s a big three points for us after coming back like that and it must have been a great game to watch for any neutrals.”

Huddersfield will allow Tom Clarke to stay for another month, although they have a 24-hour recall clause. McCall also expects Sheffield United to confirm that Nicky Law can extend his loan.

Law’s cross set up the equaliser for Boulding and his run earned the decisive penalty to earn praise from the City boss.

McCall added: “Michael Tonge at Sheffield United used to be a great midfielder who could glide with the ball and Nicky is the same. He runs well with the ball and attacks people.

“That’s what we ask all our midfielders to do and he showed that to win the penalty, even though it was on the left, which is his wrong side.

“I set the lads a target last Friday and said I believed we can win the next three games. We’ve done two now and hopefully can make it a hat-trick in the FA Cup on Saturday.”

Match-winner Conlon, who got booked after scoring for revealing a 100 t-shirt, said: “Micky was sniffing around to take the penalty but I told him I was on for the hundred.

“You always get a bit of pressure taking penalties but I didn’t feel any more because of the comeback.”


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Old Perculiar , Sunwin F-block says...
8:54am Wed 26 Nov 08

Shame about Daley, and if the rumours about a transfer to our neighbours is correct, that might have been his last match for Bradford.
Good news about Nicky Law though, he linked up well and made some great runs last night.
But what was wrong with that 4th goal ?? No way was it off side !

neil illingworth, Birkenshaw says...
9:18am Wed 26 Nov 08

Cannot believe our luck with injuries.Hope Omar is only out for a week or two. Still think Nix is not the player he was last season or was we that rubbish! He is too lightweight. Let hope a few more come back in next week or two. Think Furman is ready. Need to do something about our patched up Midfield as teams running straight through.Still think Matt Clark looks dodgy on the ball. Good in the air but worries me at times. Anyway went to the game last night as usual and cannot believe we won after going two down. Well done lads! We won with a weak team . This league is here for the taking so lets not throw it away with sloppy defending!

J4CKO, Apperley Bridge says...
9:24am Wed 26 Nov 08

Matt Clarke is a liability. As for Nix, he did well for me, still running at the final whistle, give him a few games and we will see the best of him. As for Omar, gutted but thats how it is at the mo.

Old Perculiar , Sunwin F-block says...
9:32am Wed 26 Nov 08

Got to agree - Clarke looked very uncomfortable during the first half.

Waynus, BD6 says...
9:49am Wed 26 Nov 08

This is a dig at McCall and his management team. Almost 5 minutes before Daley came off, he was clutching the back of his leg after a run. He then passed to O'B to run and instead of going with him, went towards the bench making a gesture about needing to come off. He clearly asked the bench to warm someone up. McCall and his team did nothing. No-one warmed up or stripped for action. Daley was clearly in pain. Instead, Daley was left on the pitch and had no option but to blast the ball when it came to him minutes later.

He was never going to continue after that, but I just don't understand why we didn't do anything earlier when he told the bench he had pulled something. I saw his gestures, why didn't the bench?

As someone said previously on here, a recovery starts immediately if given the right treatment. Leaving an injured player to hobble around for 5 minutes would have done neither us nor the player any favours.

Thanks for keeping our most exciting player out for 4 weeks instead of just a couple.

Waynus, BD6 says...
9:55am Wed 26 Nov 08

neil illingworth wrote:
Cannot believe our luck with injuries.Hope Omar is only out for a week or two. Still think Nix is not the player he was last season or was we that rubbish! He is too lightweight. Let hope a few more come back in next week or two. Think Furman is ready. Need to do something about our patched up Midfield as teams running straight through.Still think Matt Clark looks dodgy on the ball. Good in the air but worries me at times. Anyway went to the game last night as usual and cannot believe we won after going two down. Well done lads! We won with a weak team . This league is here for the taking so lets not throw it away with sloppy defending!
However, at the other end, especially in the opening 30 minutes, our defence was woeful. When will McCall realise we have better defenders at this club than M.Clarke and TJ? He says he watches the DVDs of the games. Does he skip the parts when the other teams attack?

As for "Still think Matt Clark looks dodgy on the ball. Good in the air but worries me at times".
He isn't even good in the air. How many times did he put his hands on the shoulders of Lester and Ward and give away free kicks just outside the box. He towered above them two so should have been winning headers without doing what he did. Get him out of the team....he is a liability!

freespeech, Shipley says...
10:18am Wed 26 Nov 08

Conlon was man of the match! Wrong choice there. Am now becoming worried that the die hard Baz fan's are going to get their way and keep him at City, which again isn't the right choice, I still maintain he is not a league one player, and as our aspirations are for higher league football, we should be lookiing forward to the future and replacing him. I think Matt Clark played well below parr to, hate to see the club fall into the mad scramble of defending in the last 10 minutes. They had 10 men, and played as though we had 10 instead of them. Lets see the back of Clark and Conlon.. weakest players last night.

Lenny_the_legend, bratfud says...
10:45am Wed 26 Nov 08

"freespeech, Shipley says...hate to see the club fall into the mad scramble of defending in the last 10 minutes. They had 10 men, and played as though we had 10 instead of them. "

I totally agree !! We just lumped it forward again, bypassed the midfield instead of playing it around and getting the extra man to make the advantage count !

As for Conlon, I thought he put more effort in last night than Thorne - but then again if Thorne wasn't ready (or wasn't expecting to play due to his dodgy back)then that's bad management !

I thought Daley looked a threat for most of the night - if only the volley had gone in it would surely have been one of the best we had seen at VP since the Scholes volley from the Beckham corner all those years ago - or even Stan's special against those from Bellend Road !

KnightMcCall, East Morton says...
10:57am Wed 26 Nov 08

Waynus. With regards to Daley, he was clearly being prepared for a substitution before taking that last shot. If however, he was wanting to come off so desperately, why was he stud in the middle of the park instead of on the sidelines?

Old perculiar, the offside was against Conlon who headed the cross down to Thorne. It was a close thing but Conlon probably was offside from the cross.

jb bantam, Wibsey says...
11:09am Wed 26 Nov 08

Free Speech Shipley , stop talking utter rubbish , Barry Conlon played a big part in getting City points on the board ,changed the Accrington game away when we deserved nothing more than defeat and has scored 7 goals , 4 less than the leagues top scorer and one better than Michael Boulding , why the **ck would you want to get rid of him , with everything doing there bit on the goal front , Conlon and co will get us out of this division this year and will will go up in third place behind the champions who will be Wycombe and the second team who will be Darlo.

Your right he isnt a league one player , but correct me if im wrong but were in league two , where he is more than capable of scoring as the stats show , lay off him.

As for Clarke he has no ability when the attacker has the ball at feet and will have nightmares of Lester and ward in his sleep last night , injury is preventing Mccall playing Tom Clarke at centre back , personally I would hope Arnison comes back soon, drop Matt Clarke and move TJ Moncur to his preferred position.

Great result tonight , fingers crossed come ten to five Saturday where in the draw for round 3 of the FA cup !

baildon bob, says...
11:17am Wed 26 Nov 08

Waynus. I think you are a little harsh on the Daley substitution. No one was warmed up and ready when Daley signalled the hammy had gone. The fact he did still manage to blast the ball suggests only a minor tweak to me. Expect to see him fit in couple of weeks with extensive treatment. Thorne worries me. Is he fit or not? Is he just out of form? I know his work rate has never been the best but surely we should have expected more for the 25 mins he was on. If he is struggling give him 2/3 weeks to get right and then return as the early season Peter Thorne. Not seen anything of Rory Boulding yet but surely he can come on for last 20 in a match and put a defence under pressure. Matt Clarke was awful, Bower should retire if he can't get a game after that display. TJ not at his best going forward - dipped out of a couple of 50/50s. Time for Arnison to return.

Scargutt, League Two says...
11:25am Wed 26 Nov 08

Old Perculiar wrote:
Shame about Daley, and if the rumours about a transfer to our neighbours is correct, that might have been his last match for Bradford. Good news about Nicky Law though, he linked up well and made some great runs last night. But what was wrong with that 4th goal ?? No way was it off side !
What rumours? Who's buying him, Hull? ManUtd?

Daley was through on goal in the first half only to be denied by a real quality tackle in the box (not sure who by). I think that was the start of the problem - physically and psychologically for him. 99% of the time anyone would have expected to score, yet it was a brilliant tackle and I think he actually twinged his groin a bit then as well.

Hope he's better soon and back up and entertaining us!

Meat Pie, Milton Keynes says...
12:10pm Wed 26 Nov 08

Scargutt - rumour is he's off to Bellend Road :-(

stevewibsey, wibsey says...
12:41pm Wed 26 Nov 08

Wow, never seen so much agreement in the posts before. If we can all agree that Clarke is a liability, why can't SMc see it. We can only assume that Clarke is the best option, which doesn't say much for the rest. I can see why SMc is looking at the wings, but surely he must realise that we need shoring up at the back. Please Stu, watch the videos more carefully.

micksey, Wibsey says...
12:42pm Wed 26 Nov 08

Can we do a swap deal that brings fabian back?

bantams party animal, idle says...
1:07pm Wed 26 Nov 08

Meat Pie wrote:
Scargutt - rumour is he's off to Bellend Road :-(
mark lawn has stated that omar daley isnt going anywere. he said he is a massive part of our promotion push, the only way daley will leave the club is at the end of his contract or at the end of the season, when the transfer window opens. and that was stated on a radio station a few weeks back.

tyker, midland road says...
1:19pm Wed 26 Nov 08

Lawn says Daley is not leaving!!! mmmmmmmmmmmmm put a check, sorry ntoo much USA,cheque under his nose for anything over £250K and he will call the taxi anmd pay it.

The club's finances aree still not good so all players are open to offers.

As for Conlon: not a great lover of him but 7 goals this season, getting us points including an extra 2 the other night and taking physical weight from others means to me that his contract should be extended to the end of the season.

in this division you need someone of his build and style.

tyker, midland road says...
1:19pm Wed 26 Nov 08

Lawn says Daley is not leaving!!! mmmmmmmmmmmmm put a check, sorry ntoo much USA,cheque under his nose for anything over £250K and he will call the taxi anmd pay it.

The club's finances aree still not good so all players are open to offers.

As for Conlon: not a great lover of him but 7 goals this season, getting us points including an extra 2 the other night and taking physical weight from others means to me that his contract should be extended to the end of the season.

in this division you need someone of his build and style.

Lenny_the_legend, bratfud says...
2:07pm Wed 26 Nov 08

I agree tyker, give Conlon until the end of the season - he can do a job at this level for us when we need a bit of muscle up front. I must admit that when he took the pen I knew he was going to chip it - so predictable but I jumped up and down when he put it away !!
Sad to say but Mr Topp is going to be leaving on a jet plane soon - how can we justify him being here (or how can he justify to himself) paying the wages and not playing ?
I don't think it has been our best move in the transfer shop, but there have been many worse to come and go !! Undoubtedly he has the talent, but the temperament and aptitude clearly have not been forthcoming in SM's eyes !!

thebrownsauceman, gomersal says...
2:15pm Wed 26 Nov 08

i think matt clarke should not be in the team. i think matt clarke is a good squad player for anyone in this devision but i have a real problem understanding why hes plays infront of bower i no some people will say cos bowers been injured but he want at start of game. and yes i take the point that conlon may not be a league one player but how many points would we have lost without him. give a contract till end of season then make the decision. at the moment hes second top scorer so how can people says hes rubbish is beyond me. Ive got a friend whos a burnly fan and he says steve jones is a good player so lets get him in and have a look at him same for seb carole give him a short term contract and have a look. Well done to the lads last night, dodgy start but showed great charactor to come back like that and at the end of the day promoted teams get out of situations like that and thats twice now. WELL DONE CTID

Maxpowers83, Bingley says...
2:15pm Wed 26 Nov 08

I was under the impression that Daley, like Johnson has a clause in his contract should the transfer fee be over a certain amount that means we have to accept it? Could be wrong.

As for the morons who still don't see the value in Barry Conlon, can I ask what you expect of him? Last season his work rate was exceptional, he just didn't get the goals. This season, his work rate has remained (I'd go as far as to say he's the hardest working player on the field when he plays) and he's added goals to that.

Let's look at it another way, we have Peter Thorne - the player who you want on the end of every chance in the 18 yard box. We have Michael Boulding, a player with pace who plays on the shoulder of the defender looking to run in behind. This means that we need someone who can be used as a target man, as a battering ram, someone to put himself about and get in the defenders faces. For that we have Barry Conlon because within our means, there is no better player. I agree, he's not going to win us League 1 but we need to get out of League 2 first!

thebrownsauceman, gomersal says...
2:16pm Wed 26 Nov 08

*bu the want at start of season

Waynus, BD6 says...
3:14pm Wed 26 Nov 08

Maxpowers83 wrote:
I was under the impression that Daley, like Johnson has a clause in his contract should the transfer fee be over a certain amount that means we have to accept it? Could be wrong. As for the morons who still don't see the value in Barry Conlon, can I ask what you expect of him? Last season his work rate was exceptional, he just didn't get the goals. This season, his work rate has remained (I'd go as far as to say he's the hardest working player on the field when he plays) and he's added goals to that. Let's look at it another way, we have Peter Thorne - the player who you want on the end of every chance in the 18 yard box. We have Michael Boulding, a player with pace who plays on the shoulder of the defender looking to run in behind. This means that we need someone who can be used as a target man, as a battering ram, someone to put himself about and get in the defenders faces. For that we have Barry Conlon because within our means, there is no better player. I agree, he's not going to win us League 1 but we need to get out of League 2 first!
Don't know about Daley's contract, but I agree with you entirely regarding Conlon. Some will never be happy (do they even know anything about fooball?) until they get rid.

'freespeech' is right to say his piece, it is just a shame he hasn't got a clue. Just to remind you again mate, we aren't in league 1, so why shouldn't Bazza get his contract until the end of the season. If we get promoted, I am sure we will bring in better quality for league 1, but that isn't the issue here. It is whether he gets an extension whilst we are in league 2.

Waynus, BD6 says...
3:25pm Wed 26 Nov 08

Someone asked why Bower can't get in the team in front of M.Clarke. I think McCall is looking at it from the aspect that Bower was rubbish for the whole of last season and was rightly dropped for Clarke. However, that was last and this is now and he can't be any worse than Clarkey.

Waynus, BD6 says...
3:34pm Wed 26 Nov 08

KnightMcCall wrote:
Waynus. With regards to Daley, he was clearly being prepared for a substitution before taking that last shot. If however, he was wanting to come off so desperately, why was he stud in the middle of the park instead of on the sidelines? Old perculiar, the offside was against Conlon who headed the cross down to Thorne. It was a close thing but Conlon probably was offside from the cross.
He wasn't being prepared for a substitution at all. The fact is, almost five minutes passed before he eventually went down. Thorne was still sat on the bench with his full training kit on. Even when Daley was walking off, Thorne was still trying to get ready!

As for "was wanting to come off so desperately, why was he stud (?) in the middle of the park instead of on the sidelines?", are you really that naive? He made the gesture to the sidelines that he couldn't carry on, and to get someone else ready. How professional would he have looked had he just walked off the pitch before someone was ready to come on? The ball was played back to him, what was he supposed to do, put his hands up and say, "sorry lads I'm not going to kick it cos my leg hurts"?

Waynus, BD6 says...
3:46pm Wed 26 Nov 08

baildon bob wrote:
Waynus. I think you are a little harsh on the Daley substitution. No one was warmed up and ready when Daley signalled the hammy had gone. The fact he did still manage to blast the ball suggests only a minor tweak to me. Expect to see him fit in couple of weeks with extensive treatment. Thorne worries me. Is he fit or not? Is he just out of form? I know his work rate has never been the best but surely we should have expected more for the 25 mins he was on. If he is struggling give him 2/3 weeks to get right and then return as the early season Peter Thorne. Not seen anything of Rory Boulding yet but surely he can come on for last 20 in a match and put a defence under pressure. Matt Clarke was awful, Bower should retire if he can't get a game after that display. TJ not at his best going forward - dipped out of a couple of 50/50s. Time for Arnison to return.
Although I agree with you regarding TJ and Arnison, I can't agree with you regarding Daley.

You say 'No one was warmed up and ready when Daley signalled the hammy had gone". That is exactly my point. McCall said he was aware Daley had injured his ankle in the first half, so surely the subs should have been warming up just in case.

However, that said, it still took five minutes between him signalling to the banch and him having that shot. Why weren't Thorne and Ossie warming up in that five minutes?

Finally, you say that Thorne looked 'unfit or out of form'. Why? Last night he looked sharp and was unlucky that the goal was ruled out. If you read these boards often enough, you will see clearly why the goals/chances have dried up. We have stopped playing to his strength. A big hoof up field is going to be no good to players like Thorne (as it wasn't for Boulding in that first 30 minutes). What do you expect from him?

KnightMcCall, East Morton says...
4:22pm Wed 26 Nov 08

Waynus, I think you will find that a Professional footballer who simply cannot carry on will go down and stay down or leave the field, not stand in the middle of the park where he is likely to receive a pass. He could easily have gone down and stayed down when he realised that he couldn't carry on and that would have been a much better "signal" to SM that he couldn't carry on. It is much more likely that he said he could run it off otherwise McCall would have prepared a replacement.

Not sure where you get your "five minutes" from either. He went off two minutes after he burst into the box to force the corner which resulted in his final shot.

And how do you know that players were not told to stay in the dugout rather than go out. As you seem to point out, Thorne "looked sharp and was unlucky that the goal was ruled out"; your words not mine so how cold do you think he was then!!??

audal, waikikamukau says...
4:37pm Wed 26 Nov 08

i was ready to post a scathing report on Matt & TJ. but seem to have been beaten to it by one and all. good because it is not my forte to run individuals down. so i will say that clarke was as good in the second half has he was a liability in the first as was tj. and i reckon the crowd played their part by showing dissent to both, thus giving them the "i will show 'em" attitude. in finishing may i say AGAIN! we need someone capable of holding the ball in mid-field (al la McCall)instead of tippy tappy or a big hoof. see you all come saturday.

baildon bob, says...
5:00pm Wed 26 Nov 08

Knight McCall you are spot on. Two minutes maximum. Hamstring tweak = 2 weeks out whether he came straight off or not. The original point made was about the management being slow to react in getting Daley replaced and I would say not guilty.
As for Thorne, I am a big fan and just want to see him back to his best, especially as I am on at 22/1 to be League 2 top scorer !! To answer the question: What do you expect of him? I am happy for him to pace himself through 90 minutes but when he comes on as a sub I expect to see a higher workrate and I still think a fully fit Thorne makes the starting 11 so I don't see him as a sub. He either gets a match off & a rest or he plays.


dannbradfc, Wyke says...
5:21pm Wed 26 Nov 08

Poor Willy Topp must have shot someone if he can't even get on the bench now. Conlon was given chance after chance and even tho he seems to be doing alot better still not gonna do it at an higher standard. Wily o the otherhand not given a chance at all. He had to settle in, had an injury and not had a run. Can't expect to judge him on ten minuteshere and there. Where's Bower gone as well, Moncur ant done bad but is a bit light weight i the tackling department, seen im jump out of a 60 - 40 i his favour at L***ds was criminal and did it again last nite. PS dont just blame defence, yes the midfield is totally decimated at moment but stil lenty of time to prepare and the disorganisation shown last night was disgraceful. Stop playing,/ picking sides to counteract the opposition specially at home and lay to our strengths. At least the management have finally apeared to coton on that Conlon is not Drogba and abandoned the one man up front policy.

DonHutchinsAfro, bradford says...
5:57pm Wed 26 Nov 08

Maxpowers83 wrote:
I was under the impression that Daley, like Johnson has a clause in his contract should the transfer fee be over a certain amount that means we have to accept it? Could be wrong. As for the morons who still don't see the value in Barry Conlon, can I ask what you expect of him? Last season his work rate was exceptional, he just didn't get the goals. This season, his work rate has remained (I'd go as far as to say he's the hardest working player on the field when he plays) and he's added goals to that. Let's look at it another way, we have Peter Thorne - the player who you want on the end of every chance in the 18 yard box. We have Michael Boulding, a player with pace who plays on the shoulder of the defender looking to run in behind. This means that we need someone who can be used as a target man, as a battering ram, someone to put himself about and get in the defenders faces. For that we have Barry Conlon because within our means, there is no better player. I agree, he's not going to win us League 1 but we need to get out of League 2 first!
Well said, you should post more. Your last paragraph describing the attributes of our forwards is spot on, and all three do offer a different approach when attacking. Barry's strength and determination had their defence tired out by midway 2nd half and for that alone never mind his 100th league goal the guy should be applauded.

Funny how it seems to be taken for granted now that young O'B is a 1st choice, not that I'm complaining the lad was solid again last night and he does have just a bit more pace than Hecky which is allowing him to get beyond his midfielder every so often and give the ops something else to think about.
Also noticed someone pointed out about TJ 'tinning' a couple of times last night, didn't think anyone would have caught that, but yes he did. SECURITY WORD real-club guess ratdogs says tinpot amateurs or summat like

Halifax Bantam, halifax says...
6:27pm Wed 26 Nov 08

Firstly lets be possitive and say well done to the boys for a good win and showing good determination to come back from two down.

Now lets look at the defence, again shocking, Clarke awful, Moncur awful, Lee, good goal but cant organise only O'Brien can claim any credit.

Good to see Conlon and Boulding on the score sheet, but i still stand by my comment that if Thorne is out for a long period then these arent the strikers who will get us goals regularly theyre too inconsistant.

Halifax Bantam, halifax says...
6:41pm Wed 26 Nov 08

Forgot to add that i'm pretty sure Steve Jones has signed on loan this afternoon.

KnightMcCall, East Morton says...
7:03pm Wed 26 Nov 08

but will he be eligible/allowed to play in FA Cup.

still trying to come to terms with the fact that we don't have a free weekend coming up. I had heard of this '2nd Round' phenomenon but wasn't really sure what it was. Hope that we can try out Round 3; it's certainly been a while!

Waynus, BD6 says...
7:14pm Wed 26 Nov 08

KnightMcCall wrote:
but will he be eligible/allowed to play in FA Cup.

still trying to come to terms with the fact that we don't have a free weekend coming up. I had heard of this '2nd Round' phenomenon but wasn't really sure what it was. Hope that we can try out Round 3; it's certainly been a while!
What's round three? Doesn't it only apply to boxing?

I think City have been selfish by winning at MK Dons. Because of their antics, we have to play three home games on the spin.

Cheers City LOL

Waynus, BD6 says...
7:41pm Wed 26 Nov 08

KnightMcCall wrote:
Waynus, I think you will find that a Professional footballer who simply cannot carry on will go down and stay down or leave the field, not stand in the middle of the park where he is likely to receive a pass. He could easily have gone down and stayed down when he realised that he couldn't carry on and that would have been a much better "signal" to SM that he couldn't carry on. It is much more likely that he said he could run it off otherwise McCall would have prepared a replacement.

Not sure where you get your "five minutes" from either. He went off two minutes after he burst into the box to force the corner which resulted in his final shot.

And how do you know that players were not told to stay in the dugout rather than go out. As you seem to point out, Thorne "looked sharp and was unlucky that the goal was ruled out"; your words not mine so how cold do you think he was then!!??
Fair point on both scores. Yes, it was probably only a couple of minutes, but still long enough for McCall to tell Thorne or Ossie to to strip or do some gentle stretching exercises.

As for his burst that forced the corner which resulted in his final shot, I'm afraid you are mistaken. Daley had a run into the box and that is when he felt his hammy go. He made his way back to the half-way line and reported his injury to the bench. Who knows more about the injury, Daley or McCall? The next time Daley touched the ball, he simply passed it first time to O'B and he went on a run instead. The only reason Daley had the shot was because the ball was played back to him.

That said, I appreciate what you are saying about going down and staying down. However, like you said previously, would we be happy to play with 10 men? The ref wouldn't have stopped the game - it wasn't a head injury. His gesture to the bench should have been enough to start some movement.

Not sure what you mean by players being told to stay in the dug out. I have not said anything about the players. I made an observation that MCCALL did not TELL the players to warm up from the start of the 2nd half.

I can assure you that the 'gesture' was an obvious, 'I need to come off...get someone ready to replace me'. It wasn't a 'I will try to run it of'. Try get hold of a copy of the DVD and you might, just might hold your hands up and say you were wrong!

Yes, I did say Thorne looked sharp. It appears that others don't agree, eh Baildon Bob?

Waynus, BD6 says...
7:49pm Wed 26 Nov 08

baildon bob wrote:
Knight McCall you are spot on. Two minutes maximum. Hamstring tweak = 2 weeks out whether he came straight off or not. The original point made was about the management being slow to react in getting Daley replaced and I would say not guilty.
As for Thorne, I am a big fan and just want to see him back to his best, especially as I am on at 22/1 to be League 2 top scorer !! To answer the question: What do you expect of him? I am happy for him to pace himself through 90 minutes but when he comes on as a sub I expect to see a higher workrate and I still think a fully fit Thorne makes the starting 11 so I don't see him as a sub. He either gets a match off & a rest or he plays.

"and I would say not guilty.

Is that because you were responding to me? Had it been a post from someone else, would you have agreed?

Okay, I may have over-exaggerated the 5 minutes, but it still doesn't explain why nobody was ready by the time Daley hobbled off the pitch. He had made the gesture a couple of minutes before and Thorne was still in his full training gear. WHY? You don't mess with injuries - full stop.

The club have announced that Daley is likely to be out for 4 weeks (hoping they can get him back in 2 like last season). However, you seem to know more than our medical staff. Perhaps you should apply for a job to replace the hopeless team employed at the moment?

lookout, eccelshill says...
11:49am Thu 27 Nov 08

Waynus wrote:
baildon bob wrote: Knight McCall you are spot on. Two minutes maximum. Hamstring tweak = 2 weeks out whether he came straight off or not. The original point made was about the management being slow to react in getting Daley replaced and I would say not guilty. As for Thorne, I am a big fan and just want to see him back to his best, especially as I am on at 22/1 to be League 2 top scorer !! To answer the question: What do you expect of him? I am happy for him to pace himself through 90 minutes but when he comes on as a sub I expect to see a higher workrate and I still think a fully fit Thorne makes the starting 11 so I don't see him as a sub. He either gets a match off & a rest or he plays.
"and I would say not guilty. Is that because you were responding to me? Had it been a post from someone else, would you have agreed? Okay, I may have over-exaggerated the 5 minutes, but it still doesn't explain why nobody was ready by the time Daley hobbled off the pitch. He had made the gesture a couple of minutes before and Thorne was still in his full training gear. WHY? You don't mess with injuries - full stop. The club have announced that Daley is likely to be out for 4 weeks (hoping they can get him back in 2 like last season). However, you seem to know more than our medical staff. Perhaps you should apply for a job to replace the hopeless team employed at the moment?
He thinks he knows everything.

KnightMcCall, East Morton says...
1:48pm Thu 27 Nov 08

and he's entitled to think so lookout, or skippy or whatever your name is. If you don't agree, try using some factual comment to challenge him.

by the way Waynus, I think we are talking about the same burst/run into the box. I saw him wander back to the half-way line and ignore what was going on around him. I would just have expected him to leave the field if he knew that his hamstring had gone and that is why I suspect mixed signals to the bench.

I will agree with you that Thorne/Osborne should possibly have been told to start stretching but my point abou them staying in the dugout is that it was a pretty cold evening so they may have been told to stay put and leave their outer layers on until the very last minute.

lookout, eccelshill says...
5:35pm Thu 27 Nov 08

KnightMcCall wrote:
and he's entitled to think so lookout, or skippy or whatever your name is. If you don't agree, try using some factual comment to challenge him. by the way Waynus, I think we are talking about the same burst/run into the box. I saw him wander back to the half-way line and ignore what was going on around him. I would just have expected him to leave the field if he knew that his hamstring had gone and that is why I suspect mixed signals to the bench. I will agree with you that Thorne/Osborne should possibly have been told to start stretching but my point abou them staying in the dugout is that it was a pretty cold evening so they may have been told to stay put and leave their outer layers on until the very last minute.
If i challenge him or tell the truth he reports me.

Waynus, BD6 says...
7:47pm Thu 27 Nov 08

lookout wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
and he's entitled to think so lookout, or skippy or whatever your name is. If you don't agree, try using some factual comment to challenge him. by the way Waynus, I think we are talking about the same burst/run into the box. I saw him wander back to the half-way line and ignore what was going on around him. I would just have expected him to leave the field if he knew that his hamstring had gone and that is why I suspect mixed signals to the bench. I will agree with you that Thorne/Osborne should possibly have been told to start stretching but my point abou them staying in the dugout is that it was a pretty cold evening so they may have been told to stay put and leave their outer layers on until the very last minute.
If i challenge him or tell the truth he reports me.
No, he only reports you when you post abusive or malicious comments. As the 'report' section says, "action will be taken against anyone who offends, ridicules or posts malicious and damaging views".

Calling me names is all of the above. It has nothing to do with your 'challenging my views' or 'telling the truth'!

lookout, eccelshill says...
9:42am Fri 28 Nov 08

Waynus wrote:
lookout wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote: and he's entitled to think so lookout, or skippy or whatever your name is. If you don't agree, try using some factual comment to challenge him. by the way Waynus, I think we are talking about the same burst/run into the box. I saw him wander back to the half-way line and ignore what was going on around him. I would just have expected him to leave the field if he knew that his hamstring had gone and that is why I suspect mixed signals to the bench. I will agree with you that Thorne/Osborne should possibly have been told to start stretching but my point abou them staying in the dugout is that it was a pretty cold evening so they may have been told to stay put and leave their outer layers on until the very last minute.
If i challenge him or tell the truth he reports me.
No, he only reports you when you post abusive or malicious comments. As the 'report' section says, "action will be taken against anyone who offends, ridicules or posts malicious and damaging views". Calling me names is all of the above. It has nothing to do with your 'challenging my views' or 'telling the truth'!
You are still offside.

DonHutchinsAfro, bradford says...
12:53pm Fri 28 Nov 08

better offside than never on the field of play.

DonHutchinsAfro, bradford says...
12:58pm Fri 28 Nov 08

better offside than never on the field of play.

Waynus, BD6 says...
4:00pm Fri 28 Nov 08

DonHutchinsAfro wrote:
better offside than never on the field of play.
I didn't get it the first time either, LOL.

What is he talking about? Offside" "on the field of play"??

DonHutchinsAfro, bradford says...
11:49am Sat 29 Nov 08

My response was an attempt to say it's better to be in the team, than a no-mark like him watching and feeling bitter about it all. I'll drop the one liners from now on.

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