Gale can go all the way to the top, says Bradford Bulls boss Cummins (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Good riddance to Koppy. Like we give a monkey's if he's proud to be Welsh captain. Squeeze fartown for every penny and sign Adam Walker

AdeyG'man wrote:
Good riddance to Koppy. Like we give a monkey's if he's proud to be Welsh captain. Squeeze fartown for every penny and sign Adam Walker

My thoughts exactly !!!

i thought koppy loved the bulls how wrong was i !!!!" well what's done is done . will take crabtree as compo :) .

Kopout and Huddersfield deserve each other. Lets hope the big lump enjoys the Giants continued success.... (laughs in a Bond villain type way....)

Huddersfield are a club which will never win anything despite their cash poor fan base average coach & a lack of passion for the shirt.

Hope you enjoy playing infront of 4000 crowds Kopout.

Gale will be a class act having a good quality half back to guide the boys round the field will do us wonders next year the squad is taking shape. I hope Ainscough gets a deal the lad is so passionate about the club & grafts his backside off I think we should snap him up asap.

bullybullman you really hate Kopczak,i would seek help, you are dangerous. You seen to have all the inside information ,Who is feeding you??? Put your tinted speck back on and get a life you BiTTER Person.

I agree-if a guy isn't passionate about playing for a club and wants to leave then let him go. You're never going to get the best out of someone if they are not happy in their job.
It leaves a bitter taste in the mouth though when you think what the bulls have done for him in his development and this is how he repays them. I appreciate one has to look out for oneself as it is a short career in RL but the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
Let's hope we get some compensation for him as Leeds did for Harris (What did he ever achieve for us?) and we can use the money elsewhere.
Wonder what reception he will get when he turns out at Odsal for the Giants?

bullybullman wrote:
Huddersfield are a club which will never win anything despite their cash poor fan base average coach & a lack of passion for the shirt.

Hope you enjoy playing infront of 4000 crowds Kopout.

Gale will be a class act having a good quality half back to guide the boys round the field will do us wonders next year the squad is taking shape. I hope Ainscough gets a deal the lad is so passionate about the club & grafts his backside off I think we should snap him up asap.

bullybully dont put the kiss of death on us pal. How many season tickets have we sold so far? Dont forget us Bradfordians vote with our feet, poor team and we stay away. Come on FC announce some signings now lets see what we have coming in lets get some positives before pre-season. Question for you but is anyone else volunteering on a match day? I fancied doing the turnstiles but I like a good pint before the game.

He won't play he'll be injured.

Bbibby - Why dangerous ? I dont hate anyone just dislike the fact that Kopczak turn his back on his hometown club & his team mates and most importantly the loyal fans for our great club.

As for inside information any information you require just speak to one a several open & honest people at the club who will gladly and openly tell you things as they are.

I have seen our club have its heart ripped out by Caisley, Hood , Agar & Bennett thankfully they are all long gone so its not a case of tinted specs its a much brighter future than we have had for a long time.

And as for getting a life Im more than happy with my lot in life take it your a mate of Kopouts ?

I would have put Kopczak behind Hargreaves and Manuokafoa last year anyway and while on his day he could be good he was never outstanding if a player doesn't want to play for a team then there is no point in trying to keep him, looking back a few months if supporters were asked out of Bateman, Whitehead and Kopczak who would they rather lose I'm pretty sure who the majority woud have gone for.

I think all Koppy wanted was to secure his future, and was obviously advised by his agent.

Can't blame him in a way, but might have been more prudent to wait until the outcome of the Bulls was known.

Unlike bully i do not speak to anone at the club unless they want money from me Face the facts it is not the players who have distroyed the Bulls its the past Directors Turn your attention and venom on them, they have all walked away laughing at us.Where HAS all THE MONEY GONE ???? .You never gave a thought to all of we Debtors ,what goes around comes around!!!!!!

Unlike bully i do not speak to anone at the club unless they want money from me Face the facts it is not the players who have distroyed the Bulls its the past Directors Turn your attention and venom on them, they have all walked away laughing at us.Where HAS all THE MONEY GONE ???? .You never gave a thought to all of we Debtors ,what goes around comes around!!!!!!

-HCK3R- wrote:
I would have put Kopczak behind Hargreaves and Manuokafoa last year anyway and while on his day he could be good he was never outstanding if a player doesn't want to play for a team then there is no point in trying to keep him, looking back a few months if supporters were asked out of Bateman, Whitehead and Kopczak who would they rather lose I'm pretty sure who the majority woud have gone for.

I'd even put him behind Tom Burgess after last season. But you are correct...we've kept the "key" backrow of Whitehead, Bateman, Olbison and hopefully Donaldson.
We've never had a problem creating genuinely top class prop forwards so the loss of Koppy will be minimal. We've lost better props in the past and still been fine upfront (Lynch, Vagana, Fielden, Sam Burgess!) I'm not worried.

Bone_idle18 wrote:
I think all Koppy wanted was to secure his future, and was obviously advised by his agent.

Can't blame him in a way, but might have been more prudent to wait until the outcome of the Bulls was known.

thats what I heard as well seems to be a witch hunt still on the agenda. Don't think any of the players got the chance to really address the problem once the TUPE was announced. Seems Kopczak was the only smart one but I did hear that the majority of players had already made contact with other clubs via agents and the monies on offer from other clubs was substantially less so they decided to stay put and see what the outcome was. Really am looking foward as to the outcome to see who was in the wrong as it is rather boring now and I would rather see more players coming in as our recruitment is too slow bearing in mind the players we have to replace. Just hope the bitter posts on here stop as I cannot seem to get my head around the fact that if several fans did not rate him why are they so bothered surely a club of our size and fan base can attract more talented players.

Rhinos vs. Bulls,for Danny McGuires testimonial,on SUNDAY,January 20th.

See Bulls website.

Now that's what I call a worthwhile pre-season friendly!!!

Does anyone know how many season tickets we have sold

bbibby wrote:
Unlike bully i do not speak to anone at the club unless they want money from me Face the facts it is not the players who have distroyed the Bulls its the past Directors Turn your attention and venom on them, they have all walked away laughing at us.Where HAS all THE MONEY GONE ???? .You never gave a thought to all of we Debtors ,what goes around comes around!!!!!!

bbibby - Another strange post ! did you read the last post I have no venom for any of our players ! which kopout is no long our player. Maybe you should start getting more involved then you could at least be able to post something that makes some sense.

Where has the money gone ! what money we have only made a profit once in the last 10 years so there has never been any money its just the managment & revenue got worse. Take a look at the accounts the big problens started 5 years ago when 2 directors took their loans back out of the club.

bbibby if you are a debtor then I am sorry for you but thats business and risk that you take unless your sesible & take insurance out of course.

Glad to hear though if the club wants money we can call you its very good of you.

bullybullman wrote:

bbibby wrote:
Unlike bully i do not speak to anone at the club unless they want money from me Face the facts it is not the players who have distroyed the Bulls its the past Directors Turn your attention and venom on them, they have all walked away laughing at us.Where HAS all THE MONEY GONE ???? .You never gave a thought to all of we Debtors ,what goes around comes around!!!!!!

bbibby - Another strange post ! did you read the last post I have no venom for any of our players ! which kopout is no long our player. Maybe you should start getting more involved then you could at least be able to post something that makes some sense.

Where has the money gone ! what money we have only made a profit once in the last 10 years so there has never been any money its just the managment & revenue got worse. Take a look at the accounts the big problens started 5 years ago when 2 directors took their loans back out of the club.

bbibby if you are a debtor then I am sorry for you but thats business and risk that you take unless your sesible & take insurance out of course.

Glad to hear though if the club wants money we can call you its very good of you.

It really is down to the past management/directors for the mess we have got ourselves in and I still think we are being plied with false rumours and statements. Like the other day how can one players salary be holding up more signings what a load of tosh. Don't forget Kopczak was just an employee like those who were made redundant at the club and if he was in any other job I think like all of us he would have considered his options which is pretty safe to say. At the end of the day we are just supporters and none of us really have a clue what has gone on as it has all been one sided publicity or bad journalism so it will be interesting to see who comes out of this with there head held high. It has also puzzled me why there has been no official statement from Kopczak or his agent but if you ask anyone that knows the lad which a lot of people do in Bradford they all say the same that he is a cracking lad and one of the most approachably within the squad so what the heck was being said behind closed doors whilst we were in administration.

LoyalBull wrote:

bullybullman wrote:

bbibby wrote:
Unlike bully i do not speak to anone at the club unless they want money from me Face the facts it is not the players who have distroyed the Bulls its the past Directors Turn your attention and venom on them, they have all walked away laughing at us.Where HAS all THE MONEY GONE ???? .You never gave a thought to all of we Debtors ,what goes around comes around!!!!!!

bbibby - Another strange post ! did you read the last post I have no venom for any of our players ! which kopout is no long our player. Maybe you should start getting more involved then you could at least be able to post something that makes some sense.

Where has the money gone ! what money we have only made a profit once in the last 10 years so there has never been any money its just the managment & revenue got worse. Take a look at the accounts the big problens started 5 years ago when 2 directors took their loans back out of the club.

bbibby if you are a debtor then I am sorry for you but thats business and risk that you take unless your sesible & take insurance out of course.

Glad to hear though if the club wants money we can call you its very good of you.

It really is down to the past management/directors for the mess we have got ourselves in and I still think we are being plied with false rumours and statements. Like the other day how can one players salary be holding up more signings what a load of tosh. Don't forget Kopczak was just an employee like those who were made redundant at the club and if he was in any other job I think like all of us he would have considered his options which is pretty safe to say. At the end of the day we are just supporters and none of us really have a clue what has gone on as it has all been one sided publicity or bad journalism so it will be interesting to see who comes out of this with there head held high. It has also puzzled me why there has been no official statement from Kopczak or his agent but if you ask anyone that knows the lad which a lot of people do in Bradford they all say the same that he is a cracking lad and one of the most approachably within the squad so what the heck was being said behind closed doors whilst we were in administration.

It will be hard to say what was, and is said behind closed doors:
Mostly I suspect it's been a "need to know" basis. As supporters all we see is outcomes from decisions that have been taken.
We then make up our own minds by speculating on what is plausible or in the case of some people on here totally implausible.

However what is apparent is not what Koppy did, but how it was done? If he and his agent were vindictive, one would suggest it was designed to cause maximum damage to the new regime.

However being kind to Kopczuk shall we say he didn't really think he was doing any harm to a team that had backed him for all his career, and when others around him were not being paid, his salary was secured. Plus he was going to be part of a new club for at least 12 months, with his pay level and employment rights protected and intact, which was more than a large number of other people could hope for etc. etc.

Bearing in mind he was the only one who did this, is it any wonder that our supporters feel anger. personally I don't mind that a few hundred pounds of our money went to help save our club.
But I resent that he (CK)can be so disloyal, to everyone who supported him.

LoyalBull wrote:

bullybullman wrote:

bbibby wrote:
Unlike bully i do not speak to anone at the club unless they want money from me Face the facts it is not the players who have distroyed the Bulls its the past Directors Turn your attention and venom on them, they have all walked away laughing at us.Where HAS all THE MONEY GONE ???? .You never gave a thought to all of we Debtors ,what goes around comes around!!!!!!

bbibby - Another strange post ! did you read the last post I have no venom for any of our players ! which kopout is no long our player. Maybe you should start getting more involved then you could at least be able to post something that makes some sense.

Where has the money gone ! what money we have only made a profit once in the last 10 years so there has never been any money its just the managment & revenue got worse. Take a look at the accounts the big problens started 5 years ago when 2 directors took their loans back out of the club.

bbibby if you are a debtor then I am sorry for you but thats business and risk that you take unless your sesible & take insurance out of course.

Glad to hear though if the club wants money we can call you its very good of you.

It really is down to the past management/directors for the mess we have got ourselves in and I still think we are being plied with false rumours and statements. Like the other day how can one players salary be holding up more signings what a load of tosh. Don't forget Kopczak was just an employee like those who were made redundant at the club and if he was in any other job I think like all of us he would have considered his options which is pretty safe to say. At the end of the day we are just supporters and none of us really have a clue what has gone on as it has all been one sided publicity or bad journalism so it will be interesting to see who comes out of this with there head held high. It has also puzzled me why there has been no official statement from Kopczak or his agent but if you ask anyone that knows the lad which a lot of people do in Bradford they all say the same that he is a cracking lad and one of the most approachably within the squad so what the heck was being said behind closed doors whilst we were in administration.

The captain of the shipwrecked Costa Concordia cruise liner must have thought 'everyman for himself' before climbing aboard a lifeboat a little too early!..... Heard he was a nice guy too!
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CK wasn't made redundant and those that were returned and supported the Club that they loved whilst Mr K continued getting paid.
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Sport is, as you know, a team game and a team is as strong as its weakest link.....
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I dont see or read anyone hanging the Clubs financial woes on any player by the way.

Am I the only one that would have Kopout back if gave a groveling apology to fellow players, management and the fans??

Good props are hard to come by and Kopout is a good prop, whatever he has done recently, he is still a good prop

Steam, we do need a good prop. Yes, I would welcome him back. But would his colleagues and the other 9998 supporters.
By his actions, he has destroyed the trust that was there. So, to build it again, what does he do? Does he take a full page apology out in t n a, hoping that works.

If I'm to be honest, for the good of the team and the supporters, he should join the Giants or whoever. We should be paid a fee by the club that gets him or if it's the giants a fee and compo for an illegal approach. If that's the case.

But, we know, like God, the RFL moves in mysterious ways.

A N Oldman wrote:
Steam, we do need a good prop. Yes, I would welcome him back. But would his colleagues and the other 9998 supporters.
By his actions, he has destroyed the trust that was there. So, to build it again, what does he do? Does he take a full page apology out in t n a, hoping that works.

If I'm to be honest, for the good of the team and the supporters, he should join the Giants or whoever. We should be paid a fee by the club that gets him or if it's the giants a fee and compo for an illegal approach. If that's the case.

But, we know, like God, the RFL moves in mysterious ways.

Yes you are right, once trust goes everything else is like sawdust in the wind. You know it probably came from an oak tree, but when you get it into it's lesser form, it might be off in the first real gust!

bbibby wrote:
Unlike bully i do not speak to anone at the club unless they want money from me Face the facts it is not the players who have distroyed the Bulls its the past Directors Turn your attention and venom on them, they have all walked away laughing at us.Where HAS all THE MONEY GONE ???? .You never gave a thought to all of we Debtors ,what goes around comes around!!!!!!

If you are a debtor you owe them money. So is that where all the money has gone?

Bbibby, please note, DEBTOR, someone who owes money. So you owe the Bulls money. What you meant to say was you are a CREDITOR and the Bradford Bulls Holding owes YOU money. Whilst I have every sympathy, for those owed monies. It is NOT the problem of the OK BULLS. So take your arguement to those whose can solve your problem. The Aministrators, namely Brendan Guilfoyle.

Bradford bulls are the laughing stock of superleague
I'm not embarassed to say I am now a Wakefield wildcats supporter who has thoroughly enjoyed Paul Sykes career revival. Wakey are on the up bulls are on a massive downward spiral.
They are a utter mess and a complete joke. I heard bulls many players wanted out but no clubs came in for them or the ones that did offered lower terms than they are on at bulls.
Bulls team will consist of NRL rejects like le' strange, manu, Kearney and lulia. Lets face it if they could mix it with the big boys they would be over in oz what with their massive salary cap.
Langley, walker, Scruton all injured cart horses.
I say lets expect some 70- nil drubbings next season.

bullsmania wrote:
Bradford bulls are the laughing stock of superleague
I'm not embarassed to say I am now a Wakefield wildcats supporter who has thoroughly enjoyed Paul Sykes career revival. Wakey are on the up bulls are on a massive downward spiral.
They are a utter mess and a complete joke. I heard bulls many players wanted out but no clubs came in for them or the ones that did offered lower terms than they are on at bulls.
Bulls team will consist of NRL rejects like le' strange, manu, Kearney and lulia. Lets face it if they could mix it with the big boys they would be over in oz what with their massive salary cap.
Langley, walker, Scruton all injured cart horses.
I say lets expect some 70- nil drubbings next season.

Oh goodness, so sorry to lose you, Goodbye.

I don't think he can.

bullsmania wrote:
Bradford bulls are the laughing stock of superleague
I'm not embarassed to say I am now a Wakefield wildcats supporter who has thoroughly enjoyed Paul Sykes career revival. Wakey are on the up bulls are on a massive downward spiral.
They are a utter mess and a complete joke. I heard bulls many players wanted out but no clubs came in for them or the ones that did offered lower terms than they are on at bulls.
Bulls team will consist of NRL rejects like le' strange, manu, Kearney and lulia. Lets face it if they could mix it with the big boys they would be over in oz what with their massive salary cap.
Langley, walker, Scruton all injured cart horses.
I say lets expect some 70- nil drubbings next season.

Bulls mania, we are a laughing stock, Wakefield are welcome to you, on the up are they, so how come they have been crying the poor tale, I don't see any marquee signings unless you class Sykes, as one. Lol, he has is contract watch his downward spiral. Had Bulls players been offered contracts by other clubs then those clubs, would be in breach of the RFL regs. Couldn't mix it with the big boys, in oz. can your imports, no they wouldn't be at wakey, would they. As for bulls and 70 nil drubbings, dream on . We won more games than you last season and will do again this. Oh, did I say Troll. No, I apologise for that. FAKE. Name pinching again.

bullsmania wrote:
Bradford bulls are the laughing stock of superleague
I'm not embarassed to say I am now a Wakefield wildcats supporter who has thoroughly enjoyed Paul Sykes career revival. Wakey are on the up bulls are on a massive downward spiral.
They are a utter mess and a complete joke. I heard bulls many players wanted out but no clubs came in for them or the ones that did offered lower terms than they are on at bulls.
Bulls team will consist of NRL rejects like le' strange, manu, Kearney and lulia. Lets face it if they could mix it with the big boys they would be over in oz what with their massive salary cap.
Langley, walker, Scruton all injured cart horses.
I say lets expect some 70- nil drubbings next season.

I'd have gone to Leeds if I were you and moved to Wakey when Leeds had lost a game. How far are you prepared to travel to be a 'fan'?

Bullsmania (or any of his alias`s Terrys black chicken, SLC, FAKE Mumby etc)wrote "Bulls team will consist of NRL rejects like le' strange, manu, Kearney and lulia. Lets face it if they could mix it with the big boys they would be over in oz what with their massive salary cap."

What a clown that applies to virtually every Ozzie in SL.you stupid Troll