Bradford Bulls ace Brett Kearney says frustration is mounting that hands are tied over player recruitment

Brett Kearney’s own future is up in the air as despite being contracted to the Bulls for another year, if they are demoted he admits he would begin looking for another club or maybe move back to Australia Brett Kearney’s own future is up in the air as despite being contracted to the Bulls for another year, if they are demoted he admits he would begin looking for another club or maybe move back to Australia

Brett Kearney has admitted he faces a nervous wait to discover if the Bulls will retain their Super League status.

The club’s change of ownership into the hands of Omar Khan and Gerry Sutcliffe was finally ratified on Tuesday but a bigger battle lies ahead to stay in the top flight.

The RFL said its board will make a decision on how it will determine which competition the Bulls will be playing in by the end of this week, but it is not clear when a final decision will be made.

Khan spoke this week of his frustration at being “held back” by the uncertainty surrounding the club’s future and Kearney has expressed similar concern.

The Bulls are effectively unable to plan ahead on or off the field as they wait to learn which division they will be playing in next year.

Telegraph & Argus player of the year Kearney said: “It’s been a long, drawn-out process and has been going on for almost six months now.

“Mick has started to build a team here and I think next year would have been another year of progress.

“But with it taking so long to find out what’s happening with the club, we’re going to be stuck with recruiting players.

“We’ve already lost some players and it’s put us in a difficult situation for next year when we should have been taking the next step.

“We should have been looking towards the top four and getting among the trophies instead of trying to throw a team together.”

A number of the 17 players out of contract at the end of the season have already confirmed their departures from Odsal .

Bryn Hargreaves , Ian Sibbit and Ben Jeffries have retired and Kyle Briggs , Tom Burgess and Olivier Elima have announced moves to rival clubs.

Kearney is under contract for another year but admits he could be left scrambling round should the Bulls be forced out of Super League.

The free-scoring full back, who bagged 15 tries in 2012, revealed: “I’ve started to weigh up my options but at the moment I don’t have any other plans.

“If we found out tomorrow that the club was going to be in the Championship I would be on the phone all day trying to find something – possibly with another Super League club.

“It would also open the door to maybe move back home to Australia but I enjoy it over here.

“Barring the dramas that have hit the club this year, I’ve really enjoyed my time at the club.

“I’ve got another year left and an option for another year after that.

“Hopefully it’s not going to come to a premature end.”

Comments(69)

Mumby was the best says...
7:27am Thu 13 Sep 12

Would like to hear from the other 9 or 10 players out of contract.

monkey belly says...
7:42am Thu 13 Sep 12

it was very clear at the players award night that the other out of contract players want to stay at the bulls, they are all waiting to see if we are confirmed in super league. They want to know what the bulls are offering first before looking elsewhere.

Mumby was the best says...
8:18am Thu 13 Sep 12

People can be quite sincere when surrounded by fans, I am sure if he was asked last week Koppy would have stated he wanted to stay etc.

murphyslaw says...
8:28am Thu 13 Sep 12

It looks like the RFL have adopted a policy of 'make them sweat' and maybe it'll do no harm. I'd be very surprised if Bulls lose their S/L status unless of course the RFL decide to use them as an example so other clubs are warned to keep their house in order.

Mumby was the best says...
8:53am Thu 13 Sep 12

Bulls wont be last club for this to happen to.

Mumby was the best says...
9:01am Thu 13 Sep 12

Where is my old friend Viking this morning?

Mumby was the best says...
9:01am Thu 13 Sep 12

Where is my old friend Viking this morning?

Schoey 2 says...
9:33am Thu 13 Sep 12

I think Bulls will retain their SL status as it is too big a punt to take on Fev, Fax or Leigh - particularly when they will contribute nothing in turn of supporters and will be financially stretched too.

Also, on the back of recent info that has come to light with Salford having been given a £1M loan from their council, and HKR not sure what they are doing next year due to substantial continual losses, RFL are going to be faced with a very long winter to hold the SL together.


Then the RFL have the comedy strip called the world cup next year to host/ promote - which you know now will be a complete and utter financial disaster - just like in 2000.

Capabull says...
10:11am Thu 13 Sep 12

I think maybe the RL are procastinating because as has been said other clubs are now coming out and declaring financial worries. What they do with us is going to set a precident and they have to hopefully come up with the right course.
It could be the future of the game is going to change completely.
You are right the World Cup is the biggest non event which will lose money.

Mumby was the best says...
10:18am Thu 13 Sep 12

Schoey 2 wrote:
I think Bulls will retain their SL status as it is too big a punt to take on Fev, Fax or Leigh - particularly when they will contribute nothing in turn of supporters and will be financially stretched too.

Also, on the back of recent info that has come to light with Salford having been given a £1M loan from their council, and HKR not sure what they are doing next year due to substantial continual losses, RFL are going to be faced with a very long winter to hold the SL together.


Then the RFL have the comedy strip called the world cup next year to host/ promote - which you know now will be a complete and utter financial disaster - just like in 2000.
the RFL made £25 millon this year.....

Thought all you clued up Bulls fans would of known that....

Mumby was the best says...
10:20am Thu 13 Sep 12

Very good a 3rd mumby

murphyslaw says...
10:34am Thu 13 Sep 12

Mumby was the best wrote:
Schoey 2 wrote:
I think Bulls will retain their SL status as it is too big a punt to take on Fev, Fax or Leigh - particularly when they will contribute nothing in turn of supporters and will be financially stretched too.

Also, on the back of recent info that has come to light with Salford having been given a £1M loan from their council, and HKR not sure what they are doing next year due to substantial continual losses, RFL are going to be faced with a very long winter to hold the SL together.


Then the RFL have the comedy strip called the world cup next year to host/ promote - which you know now will be a complete and utter financial disaster - just like in 2000.
the RFL made £25 millon this year.....

Thought all you clued up Bulls fans would of known that....
It's "would 'HAVE' known that" actually. Just thought I'd put you straight on the gramma! :-)

Adeybull says...
10:34am Thu 13 Sep 12

Mumby was the best wrote:
People can be quite sincere when surrounded by fans, I am sure if he was asked last week Koppy would have stated he wanted to stay etc.
Except they were not surrounded by fans. It was an internal function.

Mumby was the best says...
10:37am Thu 13 Sep 12

murphyslaw wrote:
Mumby was the best wrote:
Schoey 2 wrote:
I think Bulls will retain their SL status as it is too big a punt to take on Fev, Fax or Leigh - particularly when they will contribute nothing in turn of supporters and will be financially stretched too.

Also, on the back of recent info that has come to light with Salford having been given a £1M loan from their council, and HKR not sure what they are doing next year due to substantial continual losses, RFL are going to be faced with a very long winter to hold the SL together.


Then the RFL have the comedy strip called the world cup next year to host/ promote - which you know now will be a complete and utter financial disaster - just like in 2000.
the RFL made £25 millon this year.....

Thought all you clued up Bulls fans would of known that....
It's "would 'HAVE' known that" actually. Just thought I'd put you straight on the gramma! :-)
thanks

but its

GRAMMAR

I assume you went to a secondary modern then!!!!!!

ttfn ;-)

Mumby was the best says...
11:06am Thu 13 Sep 12

Were you there ady ?

Adeybull says...
11:07am Thu 13 Sep 12

Yes I was. But not in the capacity of being a fan.

Mumby was the best says...
11:12am Thu 13 Sep 12

Adey just to let you know you are talking to the troll cretin who pinched my name, he was also various nom de plumes who have been removed.

Adeybull says...
11:21am Thu 13 Sep 12

Yup. But I can still spread a little sunlight of facts to help disinfect the neighbourhood of trolls though!

Mumby was the best says...
11:27am Thu 13 Sep 12

You need your troll spray for the above poster adey, my point was in front of other people and fellow players they would be more inclined to tell a porkie or two.

vikksy says...
11:30am Thu 13 Sep 12

LOL

Mumby was the best says...
11:30am Thu 13 Sep 12

Mumby was the best wrote:
Adey just to let you know you are talking to the troll cretin who pinched my name, he was also various nom de plumes who have been removed.
you are a FAKE

Mumby was the best says...
11:30am Thu 13 Sep 12

Mumby was the best wrote:
Adey just to let you know you are talking to the troll cretin who pinched my name, he was also various nom de plumes who have been removed.
you are a FAKE

Adeybull says...
11:34am Thu 13 Sep 12

But on a one to one? And expressed with considerable and clear passion?

Don't think anyone is naive enough to think Koppy was a complete exception (although it seems clear he is NOT very popular amongst his former teammates and coaches).

Equally, I'm quite convinced there are guys there who really want to give it a shot, if they are able to, and who mean what they say. And its those sort I'd much rather see in a Bulls shirt in the horrid environment we will be dumped in going forward, tbh.

bartsbull says...
12:23pm Thu 13 Sep 12

The RFl need to make a desition asap ours is not the only club in this position that i am sure with other clubs anouncing dificulties

We have now got rid of the previous board who got us in this position.

We have a very sound business man who is the sole director and people in the background who want to come on board

The club need to move forward now and only the RFL are stopping that happening

murphyslaw says...
12:27pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Mumby was the best wrote:
murphyslaw wrote:
Mumby was the best wrote:
Schoey 2 wrote:
I think Bulls will retain their SL status as it is too big a punt to take on Fev, Fax or Leigh - particularly when they will contribute nothing in turn of supporters and will be financially stretched too.

Also, on the back of recent info that has come to light with Salford having been given a £1M loan from their council, and HKR not sure what they are doing next year due to substantial continual losses, RFL are going to be faced with a very long winter to hold the SL together.


Then the RFL have the comedy strip called the world cup next year to host/ promote - which you know now will be a complete and utter financial disaster - just like in 2000.
the RFL made £25 millon this year.....

Thought all you clued up Bulls fans would of known that....
It's "would 'HAVE' known that" actually. Just thought I'd put you straight on the gramma! :-)
thanks

but its

GRAMMAR

I assume you went to a secondary modern then!!!!!!

ttfn ;-)
I have a spelling problem, nothing wrong with my gramma!

Mumby was the best says...
12:31pm Thu 13 Sep 12

murphyslaw wrote:
Mumby was the best wrote:
murphyslaw wrote:
Mumby was the best wrote:
Schoey 2 wrote:
I think Bulls will retain their SL status as it is too big a punt to take on Fev, Fax or Leigh - particularly when they will contribute nothing in turn of supporters and will be financially stretched too.

Also, on the back of recent info that has come to light with Salford having been given a £1M loan from their council, and HKR not sure what they are doing next year due to substantial continual losses, RFL are going to be faced with a very long winter to hold the SL together.


Then the RFL have the comedy strip called the world cup next year to host/ promote - which you know now will be a complete and utter financial disaster - just like in 2000.
the RFL made £25 millon this year.....

Thought all you clued up Bulls fans would of known that....
It's "would 'HAVE' known that" actually. Just thought I'd put you straight on the gramma! :-)
thanks

but its

GRAMMAR

I assume you went to a secondary modern then!!!!!!

ttfn ;-)
I have a spelling problem, nothing wrong with my gramma!
my mate has a knife and fork problem

LoyalBull says...
12:42pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Adeybull wrote:
But on a one to one? And expressed with considerable and clear passion?

Don't think anyone is naive enough to think Koppy was a complete exception (although it seems clear he is NOT very popular amongst his former teammates and coaches).

Equally, I'm quite convinced there are guys there who really want to give it a shot, if they are able to, and who mean what they say. And its those sort I'd much rather see in a Bulls shirt in the horrid environment we will be dumped in going forward, tbh.
Not from what I know because Craig did not want to leave the club and technically hasn’t even though he is on 50k less than Scruton, Platt, Sykes, Whitehead etc. As the rest of the players deemed not to seek legal advice from their agents/solicitors then so be it but I know in my position I certainly would not transfer my working contract under only 48 hours notice without seeking advice so tell me why sporting contracts should be any different? The advice given by the agent will only in time be seen to be a good/bad move and until then await the legal proceedings to conclude the matter. On another note I will not name names as this would be deemed unprofessional within my occupation but the support Craig has received from the backroom staff has been very touching.

Mumby was the best says...
12:43pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Are you mumby 1 , 2 or 3 ?

LoyalBull says...
12:54pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Mumby was the best wrote:
Are you mumby 1 , 2 or 3 ?
sorry no

Mumby was the best says...
12:57pm Thu 13 Sep 12

I am not a number, I am a free man

Mumby was the best says...
1:04pm Thu 13 Sep 12

You been in prison ?. Everyone should get another chance.

bullslad17 says...
1:09pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Really doubt that Halifax or Leigh will get in. The thing with Featherstone is that they have won the last three championship titles, and are clearly the best team in their league.

However, it is a franchise system and we have more fans, new ownership, and a very proud history.

Futhermore, magic weekend wouldn't be as good with Leeds v Wakefield and Castleford v Featherstone, instead of Bradford v Leeds and Wakefield v Castleford.

*

Heard that Salford are in financial difficulty too so wouldn't be surprised if they enter administration within the next year.

Mumby was the best says...
1:18pm Thu 13 Sep 12

schizophrenia or is it illeism?

bullslad17 says...
1:22pm Thu 13 Sep 12

SLC52, don't you have anything better to do? Do you just refresh the page constantly waiting for a new comment to appear, hoping it's something to do with you? I bet you're loving the attention, aren't you? Haha, pathetic mate.

Mumby was the best says...
1:39pm Thu 13 Sep 12

I am not sl52

bullslad17 says...
1:42pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Then who are you? Do tell.

Mumby was the best says...
1:55pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Mumby was the best

bullslad17 says...
1:58pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Very funny. You never cease to surprise me haha. Then again, we've had long enough to get used to trolls on here by now. Will you still be keeping this up in a years time?

Spanishbob19 says...
2:19pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Just to put you right, factually.
2009 champions was Barrow
2010 champions was Halifax
2011 champions was Featherstone
2012 still to be decided.

Mumby was the best says...
2:20pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Keeping what up ? I will continue to post on here and have as much right as the next person, will you still be posting and will you be called bullslad18 ?

Spanishbob19 says...
2:20pm Thu 13 Sep 12

That last one was for Bullslad17

bullslad17 says...
2:24pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Mumby was the best wrote:
Keeping what up ? I will continue to post on here and have as much right as the next person, will you still be posting and will you be called bullslad18 ?
hahaha sounds like a good idea

bullslad17 says...
2:25pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Spanishbob19 wrote:
That last one was for Bullslad17
sorry I meant league leaders in the last 3 years.

Mumby was the best says...
2:31pm Thu 13 Sep 12

He is always wrong we just ignore him.

Tricky Dicky says...
2:57pm Thu 13 Sep 12

The RFL have not made a decision about the Bulls' status next year because they are still trying to coerce one of the aforementioned Championship sides to bite the bullet and join SL. Obviously, due to the dithering and procrastination, none are too keen. The RFL would love to kick the Bulls out into the Championship but do not want a 13-team SL competition. Shame on you RFL. I will not forget your shambolic treatment of The Bulls and will be watching for consistency when other clubs go to the wall. It's a big hole you are digging RFL and, at some point, it will be too deep to get out. The world greatest game run by a set of donkeys. Shame on you.

Mumby was the best says...
3:03pm Thu 13 Sep 12

You cant really knock the RFL as the Bulls would have gone bust had it not been for them.

Mumby was the best says...
3:22pm Thu 13 Sep 12

bullslad17 wrote:
Very funny. You never cease to surprise me haha. Then again, we've had long enough to get used to trolls on here by now. Will you still be keeping this up in a years time?
No I won't I will be back inside without access to my IT equipment.

murphyslaw says...
3:24pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Tricky Dicky wrote:
The RFL have not made a decision about the Bulls' status next year because they are still trying to coerce one of the aforementioned Championship sides to bite the bullet and join SL. Obviously, due to the dithering and procrastination, none are too keen. The RFL would love to kick the Bulls out into the Championship but do not want a 13-team SL competition. Shame on you RFL. I will not forget your shambolic treatment of The Bulls and will be watching for consistency when other clubs go to the wall. It's a big hole you are digging RFL and, at some point, it will be too deep to get out. The world greatest game run by a set of donkeys. Shame on you.
I think your assessment of the RFL is spot on but it goes back long before this Bulls debacle. Is there any wonder we are 'minnows' in the eyes of media and other codes of sport and find it difficult to attract any interest worth anything, or anyone other than Aussie Murdoch who is at all interested?.

Sheffieldbull says...
3:39pm Thu 13 Sep 12

murphyslaw wrote:
Tricky Dicky wrote:
The RFL have not made a decision about the Bulls' status next year because they are still trying to coerce one of the aforementioned Championship sides to bite the bullet and join SL. Obviously, due to the dithering and procrastination, none are too keen. The RFL would love to kick the Bulls out into the Championship but do not want a 13-team SL competition. Shame on you RFL. I will not forget your shambolic treatment of The Bulls and will be watching for consistency when other clubs go to the wall. It's a big hole you are digging RFL and, at some point, it will be too deep to get out. The world greatest game run by a set of donkeys. Shame on you.
I think your assessment of the RFL is spot on but it goes back long before this Bulls debacle. Is there any wonder we are 'minnows' in the eyes of media and other codes of sport and find it difficult to attract any interest worth anything, or anyone other than Aussie Murdoch who is at all interested?.
Agree with both Tricky and Murphy, this fiasco has now gone full circle and has now become a game of pass the parcel but with a hand grenade! The collateral damage will be felt for many years to come.... and thats if we're lucky!

Mumby was the best says...
3:48pm Thu 13 Sep 12

So you appreciate the help they gave you ? No matter what you think THEY saved the bulls.

Reality50 says...
6:39pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Halifax are the only championship club not to have made a public statement yet on the whole mini licencing issue.That tells me that they are in talks and remember they only narrowly missed out last time and fulfil all SL criteria as published in the last SL licensing round in March.It will be Bulls or Fax and you can forget Fev as they failed the SL licensing criteria a few months ago.Leigh are not ready.Fax would get 6-8000 in SL and the only reason they get poor gates now is due to there being no promotion.Gates are poor throughout that league and until promotion is brought back that will remain the case.The ideal scenario here is relegate Bulls and promote Fax then reinstate promotion next season thus meaning Bulls if they win the championship can then return after one season.I expect a decision tomorrow but i think it is 50 50 to be honest and Fax are far from out of it.

birstallbull says...
7:45pm Thu 13 Sep 12

The RFL need to be consistent here.
When Celtic Crusaders went into administration in 2010. Their Super league license was not revoked.If I am not mistaken, when Crusaders went into administration again in 2011, The new company was included in the franchise exercise and had it not been its voluntary withdrawal from taking up the franchise at the eleventh hour would have been awarded a franchise. The RFL, having been notified that Crusaders were not in a position to take up their franchise, did not conduct a further round of mini franchise applications including Halifax, Featherstone and Leigh but merely awarded the franchise to Wakefield. The club having recently been bought out of administration! Anything sound familiar here? At no point was there any discussion of taking any further punitive action against Wakefield. The 4 points deduction the previous season having been deemed sufficient punishment for the club going into administration. Super League need the Bulls and the Bulls need Super League. If the OK Bulls company have been through due diligence examination and deemed fit and properly constituted and financially sound then the sooner the RFL advance the process the better for all concerned

Sheffieldbull says...
7:57pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Yep - an ideal solution for Fax fans, for one year then abject misery for same fans the following season.What chance will they have of staying there?That's progress eh? One question that has never been answered by the non Bulls fans on here... Why should the Bulls be relegated, what president decides that?(other than or selfish reasons... I'm support Fax /Fev.. they are world beaters! just never had the chance to prove it!)

Capabull says...
8:00pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Last time they missed out to a club who everybody thought were going out of Super league due to being in administration. That club were saved by Crusaders collapsing, why werent Fax brought in then? Surely they would have had a better chance against a side who averaged a crowd nearer their support and had possibly an inferior ground. Also Wakefield had virtually prepared for championship rugby.

New Hall Nev says...
8:03pm Thu 13 Sep 12

bullslad17 wrote:
Really doubt that Halifax or Leigh will get in. The thing with Featherstone is that they have won the last three championship titles, and are clearly the best team in their league.

However, it is a franchise system and we have more fans, new ownership, and a very proud history.

Futhermore, magic weekend wouldn't be as good with Leeds v Wakefield and Castleford v Featherstone, instead of Bradford v Leeds and Wakefield v Castleford.

*

Heard that Salford are in financial difficulty too so wouldn't be surprised if they enter administration within the next year.
youre history is played 2 lost 2 1 game 70 points next game 50 points lol great history that not,
magic weekend will be just fine without your skint team of loosers hahaha
get Fev in got there own ground no detts and get loads of fans at the games

bullslad17 says...
8:12pm Thu 13 Sep 12

New Hall Nev wrote:
bullslad17 wrote:
Really doubt that Halifax or Leigh will get in. The thing with Featherstone is that they have won the last three championship titles, and are clearly the best team in their league.

However, it is a franchise system and we have more fans, new ownership, and a very proud history.

Futhermore, magic weekend wouldn't be as good with Leeds v Wakefield and Castleford v Featherstone, instead of Bradford v Leeds and Wakefield v Castleford.

*

Heard that Salford are in financial difficulty too so wouldn't be surprised if they enter administration within the next year.
youre history is played 2 lost 2 1 game 70 points next game 50 points lol great history that not,
magic weekend will be just fine without your skint team of loosers hahaha
get Fev in got there own ground no detts and get loads of fans at the games
'Great history that not'....

Super league champions 1997, 2001, 2003, 2005

Challenge Cup winners: 1905-06, 1943-44, 1946-47, 1948-49, 2000, 2003

World Club Challenge Winners: 2002,2004,2006

Actually, that is a great history.

New Hall Nev says...
8:58pm Thu 13 Sep 12

thats not youre history you went bust in the sixtys and last month youre history is played 2 lost 2 hahahaha get over it loosers
no history no money no ground not many fans players leaving and not getting payed by youre club lol no body wants the bulls in the top leauge youre finished

Reality50 says...
9:05pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Bradford LIED when they put forward their Super League licence application last time.They misled the RFL SL and all other clubs regarding their finances.Halifax at one time were a well supported club and will be again if promoted.Bradford's history is irrelevant as how many trophies they won means nothing to breaking an SL licence.Anyone that opposes promotion and relegation is selfish and opposes progress and wants to strangle the game at championship level.Both Fev and Fax in my view are currently stronger than Castleford and Widnes and on their day London and Salford.Fev beat Cas in this years CC for example.I just hope SL and the RFL show some backbone like the SPL did over Rangers and relegate the Bulls.

Reality50 says...
9:07pm Thu 13 Sep 12

As for Wakey they are now a good club with a new stadium due to be built.Bulls are a backward club with a terrible stadium.

Adeybull says...
10:36pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Reality50 wrote:
Bradford LIED when they put forward their Super League licence application last time.They misled the RFL SL and all other clubs regarding their finances.Halifax at one time were a well supported club and will be again if promoted.Bradford's history is irrelevant as how many trophies they won means nothing to breaking an SL licence.Anyone that opposes promotion and relegation is selfish and opposes progress and wants to strangle the game at championship level.Both Fev and Fax in my view are currently stronger than Castleford and Widnes and on their day London and Salford.Fev beat Cas in this years CC for example.I just hope SL and the RFL show some backbone like the SPL did over Rangers and relegate the Bulls.
Please state clearly and concisely hwo you know that the club lied, and what the precise nature of those lies were?

You WILL of course have the full details to hand, since I am sure you would not want to put both yourself and this newspaper at risk from a prospective libel action? (Are you watching, Ross?)

So go on, spill the beans, what were the specific lies please?

Adeybull says...
10:41pm Thu 13 Sep 12

I very much hope we do indeed receive confirmation of SL status very soon - so we can all marvel at the resulting collective apoplexy of all these nasty bitter little individuals purporting to support the usual suspect clubs, all with chips the size of girders on their shoulders and grudges that have clearly been eayting away at them for years.

murphyslaw says...
10:58pm Thu 13 Sep 12

birstallbull wrote:
The RFL need to be consistent here.
When Celtic Crusaders went into administration in 2010. Their Super league license was not revoked.If I am not mistaken, when Crusaders went into administration again in 2011, The new company was included in the franchise exercise and had it not been its voluntary withdrawal from taking up the franchise at the eleventh hour would have been awarded a franchise. The RFL, having been notified that Crusaders were not in a position to take up their franchise, did not conduct a further round of mini franchise applications including Halifax, Featherstone and Leigh but merely awarded the franchise to Wakefield. The club having recently been bought out of administration! Anything sound familiar here? At no point was there any discussion of taking any further punitive action against Wakefield. The 4 points deduction the previous season having been deemed sufficient punishment for the club going into administration. Super League need the Bulls and the Bulls need Super League. If the OK Bulls company have been through due diligence examination and deemed fit and properly constituted and financially sound then the sooner the RFL advance the process the better for all concerned
A few points to raise. Firstly, asking the RFL to be consistent is comical to put it mildly. Secondly you shouldn't compare Bulls to one of the RFL Flagship Regional clubs as they haven't a cat in hells chance of receiving the same concessions. The assumption S/L need the Bulls and the Bulls need S/L is only half correct. However I do agree it seems incredible that Bulls will not be in S/L next year the one thing I can't manage to do is to apply your 'logic' where the RFL are concerned.

bradfordbronco says...
11:50pm Thu 13 Sep 12

As for Wakey they finished 9th. The new ground isn't even built yet. They got about 8,000 for their 'big' Local derby against Cas. The Bulls would have to do really badly to average crowds as low as wakefield when they apparently had a good season & played so well they reached the playoffs!!

Keep dreaming our crowds are better than most clubs even in the bad times. The only reason Wakefield & many other clubs are still in SL is because of one person propping them up.

There's only 2 viable clubs in the comp, that's Leeds & Wigan. The Bulls are the only other club who's revenue comes anywhere near matching their expenses. All the other clubs are in a false position take away their money man and they have no club.

The Bulls aren't a loss making club. Their problems stem from being badly managed by the previous owners who have now gone.

The new owner with the backing of the fans will ensure we break even and still compete for a place in the top 8.

Halifax, Fev, Leigh etc will get crowds of less than 5000, be at the bottom end of SL and bring nothing to the competition other than the stereotypical image of dour northern towns and flat caps which has held our sport back for the last 100 years.

The Bulls are quite clearly better placed to get the 14th spot in SL next season, based on support, actually having a SL squad already. The only thing that lets them down is the ground, but who cares about that?

In fact the only way Featherstone will get in is at the expense of either Wakefield or Castleford. Halifax's ground is ok but they've proved before that they cant get the crowds. Even when they finished 3rd in 1998 their crowds were little over 5000. In the mid 80's when they won the Cup & the League the didn't average over 10000!

If all the clubs applied for a licence tomorrow the order of preference would be as follows.

Wigan, Leeds, Warrington, Saints, , Catalan, Hull, Bradford, London, Huddersfield, Hull KR, Wakefield, Widnes, Salford, Castleford, Halifax, Featherstone, Sheffield, Leigh

Don't even know why the decision hasn't been made yet. Looking forwards NOT backwards the OK Bulls have better case than any of the others for being in SL next season.

If the RFL don't give us the go ahead. Its simply because they want to punish Mr Khan for the failings of Mr Hood & Caisley. They need to be looking at who is best placed to take up the SL licence. The previous board & company will be investigated & punished within the rules of business. The Club has already been punished by being docked 6 points and missing out on play off money.

Reality50 says...
1:14am Fri 14 Sep 12

So the Bulls never checked their bank account the day before they gave their financial position during the last SL franchise licensing round??? Of course they knew and they misled the RFL and SL.To infer they were unaware of their own finances at the time is laughable.Halifax deserve a crack at SL and Bulls must be punished as a future deterrent to other clubs who get in the same mess.Oh and Bradford Bronco the fact is Saints and Warrington are viable too.Bradford currently are not viable and until-if ever-they get a new stadium-I doubt they ever will be.

Reality50 says...
1:15am Fri 14 Sep 12

A six point penalty is not sufficient punishment.It basically equates to not getting in the play offs and they would have been knocked out in the first round anyway so probably a loss of one games gate receipts.

Adeybull says...
1:36am Fri 14 Sep 12

Answer the question please.

Provide your facts to support your statement that the club lied in its Licensing application, or admit you have commited a libel.

Answer it. Or withdraw your statement unequivocally.

Sheffieldbull says...
8:31am Fri 14 Sep 12

Reality50 says...
1:14am Fri 14 Sep 12

So the Bulls never checked their bank account the day before they gave their financial position during the last SL franchise licensing round???
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Comments just like this prove without any doubt what a stupid, naive, pathetic and uniformed individual this poster is.
Bitter and twisted little sad 'soxs'!

bullslad17 says...
6:23pm Fri 14 Sep 12

New Hall Nev wrote:
thats not youre history you went bust in the sixtys and last month youre history is played 2 lost 2 hahahaha get over it loosers
no history no money no ground not many fans players leaving and not getting payed by youre club lol no body wants the bulls in the top leauge youre finished
You're embarrassing yourself mate. We do have a ground. We do have fans. We do have a history. Players leave, players arrive.

Also, no one wants the Bulls in the top league, eh? Seen the news today?

alfucham says...
11:31pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Adeybull wrote:
Answer the question please. Provide your facts to support your statement that the club lied in its Licensing application, or admit you have commited a libel. Answer it. Or withdraw your statement unequivocally.
I would answer it for him Adey.

It would appear the Bulls in 2011 had to take a loan of £750k from the RFL.

I presumne they would have been insolvent at the time and required it also going forward for the "budgeted 1.2 million losses going forward"

The franchises were determined last Oct /Nov.

Mr Hood pops up in interview in January this year to say the RFL have acquired an iconic ground with history for £1.2m.
To stop circling predators with development plans for Odsal.

Joke.

More like to stop circling predators of 1.3 million in creditors that the administraters interim report discloses.

The game of chess is almost complete.

The complicit RFL in the Bulls acceptance to membership( whilst clearly unable without significant support from both the RFL AND its bankers in 2011)shows just how badly the RFL needed the Bulls in superleague then.

It still does.

the manouvrerings of assets and charges over the past 12 months here at the Bulls and games headquaters ensures that.

1.The Bulls still have the very expensive Odsal to play at.
2.The players have all been paid in contract
3.The competetition was able to complete

4.THE CREDITORS AT £1.3 MILLION HAVE BEEN UTTERLEY AND COMPLETELY SHAFTED AND THEY (HMRC INCLUDED)WILL GET THE PRINCELY SUM OF NOTHING.
Did I not read you Adey stating that Mr Hood in January at some meeting declared that the Bulls were completely debt free.
And did that statement from Mr Hood forget his firm (as per list of creditors)were owed £67000.
Did anybody tape him say that?

Yes the Bulls were financially woed a lot longer than back to the end of March this year.

I hope none of this is libelous.

I feel very sorry for the £500000 worth of little creditors.

The RFL have in allowing the Bulls to survive in SL whilst write off debt of £1.3 m set a wonderfull precedent for all future insolvent SL clubs,that are queing up if the rumours are true.

Dont pay anyone other than yer players and essential bills for a couple of years,go through administration,time it to perfection and with the RFL backing you will be still in the competition and can walk away from paying for all those contracts for supplies and services you wrack up in that 2 years.

Not good is it.

Complicity on the part of the RFL in this shady story.

The Supreme court should be able to set aside the lease transfer (if the Bulls were insolvent then as they were)
Odsal could then be sold for the benfit of all the creditors as landfill and the reconstituted Bulls coulpd then have groundshared.

Would it not be better that complicit as they were, the RFL now use their considerable resources and make Odsal their HQ and invest in the stadium as Rugby League premier ground.
And use it for all GB matches,World Cup,Round Robins,Magic this Magic that weekends and promote the place as the home of rugby league.

Bradford would get the best of both worlds then.

I am very cynical about the schennanigans that have gone on to shaft small local businessmen and women.

The Bulls are dead.Long live the Bulls.
and the creditors twenty grand that could see them bankrupt whilst players on £110000 have continued to be paid in full.
Only to prove disloyal in some cases.

No the Bulls were not solvent or viable at the time of their license application.
They were underwritten by the RFL to the tune of £3/4 a million.
creditors have been paid slowly for years.
Next years season ticket money was used to pay previous years debts.
Not good any of it.
Does he who pays the most wage bring the most success?

it"s proved at Chelsea and Man City.

but in Rugby?

Not so sure but the game as other commenters have stated needs a sobering reign in call.

The madness cannot continue

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