Bradford Bulls coach Potter: Long process turning into 'farce' (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Potter for the sack wrote:
Can somebody tell me where can you buy tickets for the match?

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Its a bit unfair to blame the administrator, up until the last couple of weeks there were no bids on the table that where unconditional as requested by the RFL.
Now 4 have come along at once it would be more important at this stage to pick the best deal going forward for the future of the club.
The administrator has kept the club going long enough for these bids to come in and now they are in they all have to be checked for their individual merits and for the security of the club going forward.
I'm sure no one will want this to happen again so it takes a few weeks to find the best deal to secure the clubs future then its a tiny price to pay in the scheme of things.

huggy b wrote:
Mick Potter has worked miracles on the pitch, he at least deserves clarity on his future off it. Perhaps Guilfoyle could put half of his £500 a day into the hardship fund to pay the staff? I'd still do his job for £250 a day! We all know that won't happen though.

Adeybull wrote:

huggy b wrote: Mick Potter has worked miracles on the pitch, he at least deserves clarity on his future off it. Perhaps Guilfoyle could put half of his £500 a day into the hardship fund to pay the staff? I'd still do his job for £250 a day! We all know that won't happen though.

I think you will find the figure people were throwing around was £500 an HOUR. I don't know the actual figure, but from my knowledge of charge-out rates it will be far nearer to £500 an hour than a day.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Its a bit unfair to blame the administrator, up until the last couple of weeks there were no bids on the table that where unconditional as requested by the RFL.
Now 4 have come along at once it would be more important at this stage to pick the best deal going forward for the future of the club.
The administrator has kept the club going long enough for these bids to come in and now they are in they all have to be checked for their individual merits and for the security of the club going forward.
I'm sure no one will want this to happen again so it takes a few weeks to find the best deal to secure the clubs future then its a tiny price to pay in the scheme of things.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Its a bit unfair to blame the administrator, up until the last couple of weeks there were no bids on the table that where unconditional as requested by the RFL.
Now 4 have come along at once it would be more important at this stage to pick the best deal going forward for the future of the club.
The administrator has kept the club going long enough for these bids to come in and now they are in they all have to be checked for their individual merits and for the security of the club going forward.
I'm sure no one will want this to happen again so it takes a few weeks to find the best deal to secure the clubs future then its a tiny price to pay in the scheme of things.

Mumby was the best wrote:
If SLE`s bid was to flush out other bidders it`s worked, so why are they still on the table.

Mumby was the best wrote:
If SLE`s bid was to flush out other bidders it`s worked, so why are they still on the table.

Prycey wrote:
I think the deadlines will continue to the point where we have completed all of the games and then the real talking and action will happen when we get to know our fate from the RFL. Finishing the season is vital for the RFL.

Mumby was the best wrote:
At last, it seems even the coaching staff and players probably feel the same as the fans. You would think they would have been privy to some info we aren`t, but reading MP`s comments it appears not and without naming names he fires both barrels at the situation.
Well said Mick, a man of honor and integrity.

blue marlin wrote:

Adeybull wrote:

huggy b wrote: Mick Potter has worked miracles on the pitch, he at least deserves clarity on his future off it. Perhaps Guilfoyle could put half of his £500 a day into the hardship fund to pay the staff? I'd still do his job for £250 a day! We all know that won't happen though.

I think you will find the figure people were throwing around was £500 an HOUR. I don't know the actual figure, but from my knowledge of charge-out rates it will be far nearer to £500 an hour than a day.

500 per hour is not far off the mark

Ackersthebull wrote:

Mumby was the best wrote:
At last, it seems even the coaching staff and players probably feel the same as the fans. You would think they would have been privy to some info we aren`t, but reading MP`s comments it appears not and without naming names he fires both barrels at the situation.
Well said Mick, a man of honor and integrity.

Speaking to some of the players after last Fridays match they said we would be likely to find out anything before they did.

Steam Pigs wrote:
DON'T DO IT MUMBY!!!!

;-)

Mumby was the best wrote:
It`s all conjecture but I would smell a rat if SLE won out as they state they only mean to take charge for a short time. Also can`t this be seen as a condition?

Blotto wrote:

Mumby was the best wrote:
It`s all conjecture but I would smell a rat if SLE won out as they state they only mean to take charge for a short time. Also can`t this be seen as a condition?

Well the rumour mill has it that there are a couple more potential bidders on the sideline, that will not deal with Guilfoyle but would deal with the SLE if they take over the Club

Blotto wrote:

Mumby was the best wrote:
It`s all conjecture but I would smell a rat if SLE won out as they state they only mean to take charge for a short time. Also can`t this be seen as a condition?

Well the rumour mill has it that there are a couple more potential bidders on the sideline, that will not deal with Guilfoyle but would deal with the SLE if they take over the Club

Steam Pigs wrote:

Blotto wrote:

Mumby was the best wrote:
It`s all conjecture but I would smell a rat if SLE won out as they state they only mean to take charge for a short time. Also can`t this be seen as a condition?

Well the rumour mill has it that there are a couple more potential bidders on the sideline, that will not deal with Guilfoyle but would deal with the SLE if they take over the Club

hmmmmm Mr Hood and Greenwoods perhaps??? Both been very quiet since Mr Caisley performed his coup de grace....

Tatecastre wrote:
That's just what it is a rumour. Was said that people would only deal with rfl. As to Mr C and Mr H, they will be deemed not fit persons. Greenwoods have a very rich Chinese owner.

Tatecastre wrote:
Steam, I think that in view of the facts that have come out since Hood departed. He will,now, be persona non grata with the rfl. Plus if either H or C are behind any of these bids, advisory or otherwise, the bids will loose.

Will, Huddersfield wrote:
The present situation is a disgrace to the name of rugby league. The main losers in this sorry saga are Mick Potter and the coaching staff whose goodwill is being stretched to breaking point and the admin staff whose employment has gone. Who is responsible for this stalling, this incapability of making a rational decision about the club's future?
I don't know how efficiently or otherwise the administrator has carried out his obligations so I make no comment.
I have strong reservations about the way RL Headquarters have handled their side. Firstly they sat on their hands for three months until it became evident that the club was on the point of folding. That then in my view, concentrated their minds because the thought of having to expunge the Bull's records from the competition was such that they had to intervene to save face. I regard their SLE bid as no more than a short-term cynical attempt to ensure that the Bulls complete the season. Why can't they state which league the club will play in next season if the administration conditions are met? Why weren't business plans asked for before now to ensure they were viable?
I could go on but as the club reels towards the end of a good playing season, I think the RL will hope Bulls don't make the Top Eight playoffs because this will only add further delay to the process and alienate even more the coaching staff, players and fans alike.
Spirit of '64 is spot on. t totally beggers belief!

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Its a bit unfair to blame the administrator, up until the last couple of weeks there were no bids on the table that where unconditional as requested by the RFL.
Now 4 have come along at once it would be more important at this stage to pick the best deal going forward for the future of the club.
The administrator has kept the club going long enough for these bids to come in and now they are in they all have to be checked for their individual merits and for the security of the club going forward.
I'm sure no one will want this to happen again so it takes a few weeks to find the best deal to secure the clubs future then its a tiny price to pay in the scheme of things.

Steam Pigs wrote:
DON'T DO IT!! RESIST!!!!!

arthor61 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Its a bit unfair to blame the administrator, up until the last couple of weeks there were no bids on the table that where unconditional as requested by the RFL.
Now 4 have come along at once it would be more important at this stage to pick the best deal going forward for the future of the club.
The administrator has kept the club going long enough for these bids to come in and now they are in they all have to be checked for their individual merits and for the security of the club going forward.
I'm sure no one will want this to happen again so it takes a few weeks to find the best deal to secure the clubs future then its a tiny price to pay in the scheme of things.

I think this is the most ridiculous and disgraceful view of the whole sordid affair, yes you can blame the administrator he has deliberately ignored people trying to make a bid with words like oh I did not get a message or I do not have voice mail, the man is a total and utter shark and yes before you jump up and down I have met him, so stop backing the wrong man and get your biased opinion behind the real people who have made the club a success since administration namely the staff, who this stupid man sacked

Sheffieldbull wrote:

arthor61 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Its a bit unfair to blame the administrator, up until the last couple of weeks there were no bids on the table that where unconditional as requested by the RFL.
Now 4 have come along at once it would be more important at this stage to pick the best deal going forward for the future of the club.
The administrator has kept the club going long enough for these bids to come in and now they are in they all have to be checked for their individual merits and for the security of the club going forward.
I'm sure no one will want this to happen again so it takes a few weeks to find the best deal to secure the clubs future then its a tiny price to pay in the scheme of things.

I think this is the most ridiculous and disgraceful view of the whole sordid affair, yes you can blame the administrator he has deliberately ignored people trying to make a bid with words like oh I did not get a message or I do not have voice mail, the man is a total and utter shark and yes before you jump up and down I have met him, so stop backing the wrong man and get your biased opinion behind the real people who have made the club a success since administration namely the staff, who this stupid man sacked

Also very well said author.

TVoR is an ignoramus, full of self importance who offers nothing to this comment section, indeed, he is even sanctimonious on the Bantams posts as well.

Tatecastre wrote:
Now here is one statement I do not believe. You had better not write your will yet. As they would say your balance of mind had gone. Not to watch the sport you love, is like having your genetalia removed with a pair of nail scissors. Very painful. Go and have a glass of sanatogen.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
You boys enjoying patting each other on the back and singing from the same hymn sheet?

The Bulls have been in admin for less than two months, there are some errors which have happened along the way but the process appears to be drawing to a conclusion with the 4 bids to choose from.

Other sporting clubs such as Plymouth were in admin for 7 months, BCFC found themselves in admin for a similar period of time, Port Vale went into admin in March and are still in admin.

As frustrating as these things are they are rarely settled within a short space of time.

This mess is the result of many years of mismanagement and can't simply be put right in a matter of days.

taurusthebull wrote:
I find the whole thing outrageous, in that CC was allowed to appoint the administrator in the first place , and as for getting the best deal for the creditors, well the only person in profit seems to be the said administrator!
As far as punishment for the Bulls I would propose same as was dished out to Melbourne ie no points next season, but stay in SL, we would then have a focus and incentive for the players,(as did MS) TO BEAT ALL AND SUNDRY JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT !! and following season emerge as real contenders again (I can dream cant I)

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
You boys enjoying patting each other on the back and singing from the same hymn sheet?

The Bulls have been in admin for less than two months, there are some errors which have happened along the way but the process appears to be drawing to a conclusion with the 4 bids to choose from.

Other sporting clubs such as Plymouth were in admin for 7 months, BCFC found themselves in admin for a similar period of time, Port Vale went into admin in March and are still in admin.

As frustrating as these things are they are rarely settled within a short space of time.

This mess is the result of many years of mismanagement and can't simply be put right in a matter of days.

Adeybull wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
You boys enjoying patting each other on the back and singing from the same hymn sheet?

The Bulls have been in admin for less than two months, there are some errors which have happened along the way but the process appears to be drawing to a conclusion with the 4 bids to choose from.

Other sporting clubs such as Plymouth were in admin for 7 months, BCFC found themselves in admin for a similar period of time, Port Vale went into admin in March and are still in admin.

As frustrating as these things are they are rarely settled within a short space of time.

This mess is the result of many years of mismanagement and can't simply be put right in a matter of days.

Once again you demonstrate you have no idea what you are talking about..
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This is an UNFUNDED administration, ffs. Do you understand the difference? And the significance?
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Thought not.

Adeybull wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You boys enjoying patting each other on the back and singing from the same hymn sheet? The Bulls have been in admin for less than two months, there are some errors which have happened along the way but the process appears to be drawing to a conclusion with the 4 bids to choose from. Other sporting clubs such as Plymouth were in admin for 7 months, BCFC found themselves in admin for a similar period of time, Port Vale went into admin in March and are still in admin. As frustrating as these things are they are rarely settled within a short space of time. This mess is the result of many years of mismanagement and can't simply be put right in a matter of days.

Once again you demonstrate you have no idea what you are talking about.. . This is an UNFUNDED administration, ffs. Do you understand the difference? And the significance? . Thought not.

Will, Huddersfield wrote:
The present situation is a disgrace to the name of rugby league. The main losers in this sorry saga are Mick Potter and the coaching staff whose goodwill is being stretched to breaking point and the admin staff whose employment has gone. Who is responsible for this stalling, this incapability of making a rational decision about the club's future? I don't know how efficiently or otherwise the administrator has carried out his obligations so I make no comment. I have strong reservations about the way RL Headquarters have handled their side. Firstly they sat on their hands for three months until it became evident that the club was on the point of folding. That then in my view, concentrated their minds because the thought of having to expunge the Bull's records from the competition was such that they had to intervene to save face. I regard their SLE bid as no more than a short-term cynical attempt to ensure that the Bulls complete the season. Why can't they state which league the club will play in next season if the administration conditions are met? Why weren't business plans asked for before now to ensure they were viable? I could go on but as the club reels towards the end of a good playing season, I think the RL will hope Bulls don't make the Top Eight playoffs because this will only add further delay to the process and alienate even more the coaching staff, players and fans alike. Spirit of '64 is spot on. t totally beggers belief!

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Adeybull wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You boys enjoying patting each other on the back and singing from the same hymn sheet? The Bulls have been in admin for less than two months, there are some errors which have happened along the way but the process appears to be drawing to a conclusion with the 4 bids to choose from. Other sporting clubs such as Plymouth were in admin for 7 months, BCFC found themselves in admin for a similar period of time, Port Vale went into admin in March and are still in admin. As frustrating as these things are they are rarely settled within a short space of time. This mess is the result of many years of mismanagement and can't simply be put right in a matter of days.

Once again you demonstrate you have no idea what you are talking about.. . This is an UNFUNDED administration, ffs. Do you understand the difference? And the significance? . Thought not.

The Plymouth Argyle administration run by the same bloke was also unfunded.

arthor61 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Adeybull wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You boys enjoying patting each other on the back and singing from the same hymn sheet? The Bulls have been in admin for less than two months, there are some errors which have happened along the way but the process appears to be drawing to a conclusion with the 4 bids to choose from. Other sporting clubs such as Plymouth were in admin for 7 months, BCFC found themselves in admin for a similar period of time, Port Vale went into admin in March and are still in admin. As frustrating as these things are they are rarely settled within a short space of time. This mess is the result of many years of mismanagement and can't simply be put right in a matter of days.

Once again you demonstrate you have no idea what you are talking about.. . This is an UNFUNDED administration, ffs. Do you understand the difference? And the significance? . Thought not.

The Plymouth Argyle administration run by the same bloke was also unfunded.

Does TVOR actually work for BG it is not the length of admin it is the management of admin, the first and most basic principle is to keep the assets of the business in tact for a smooth transition to a new owner, BG decided instead of letting go on-loan players and sell others he would sack the coaching staff putting the Bulls in a worst position than before, and you wonder why people think he is in bed with a certain CC

Tatecastre wrote:
Your right mick, it has gone on too long. Yes, it should have been resolved. IMO, it would have been if the original bids had come in without conditions, as per rfl statement. Whose the one for us, out of the four, can we really say, no. As we are not privy to the bids. Yes, we have our favourites,mine the rhodes family, just on the basis, it winds up city supporters. Joking apart, both the rfl and guilfoyle have to do the best for the club. Whoever takes over, should work hand in glove with the supporters. Also, work alongside the lease holder, freeholder, in bringing odsal into the 21st century. So, I really think, whoever has the business plan and the money to do this will be the one who wins the bid. Out of the four, who has the cash, to do it? Let's have your SENSIBLE answers please.

Bacon Bantam wrote:
I understand Mr Potters frustrations, he is one who has been directly penalised for the actions of the previous owners and one who's future is more uncertain than most.

I do though also have sympathy with all those charged to clean up this mess and those who might be taking on a debt via a successful bid that is not of their creating.

With 4 bids on the table surely the process is coming to an end and after waiting since March hopefully a few more weeks is all that will have to be endured before the future is secured and fans can get on what they want to focus on and that is performances on the field.

When I head down to Valley Parade to watch City I just want their performance on the pitch to be the only matter, I'm hoping the days of worrying about the club seeing the season out are a thing of the past and i hope the same for the Bulls too.

blue marlin wrote:

Adeybull wrote:

huggy b wrote: Mick Potter has worked miracles on the pitch, he at least deserves clarity on his future off it. Perhaps Guilfoyle could put half of his £500 a day into the hardship fund to pay the staff? I'd still do his job for £250 a day! We all know that won't happen though.

I think you will find the figure people were throwing around was £500 an HOUR. I don't know the actual figure, but from my knowledge of charge-out rates it will be far nearer to £500 an hour than a day.

500 per hour is not far off the mark

Tatecastre wrote:
Tvor, ask Plymouth Argyle, supporters about him, guilfoyle, and what he did to them and their club. He was so popular, they gave him a nickname, the ginger dwarf.