Bradford Bulls fans thank 'rugby league family' (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

What a load of crap - the RFL/ SL or whoever are just looking to get Bulls to end of season.

Fans thinking that this is a great result are more tan likley going to be disappointed in the off season when players leave, wage bill cut and we have nowt of a team and are in Champoinship.

Schoey 2 wrote:
What a load of crap - the RFL/ SL or whoever are just looking to get Bulls to end of season.

Fans thinking that this is a great result are more tan likley going to be disappointed in the off season when players leave, wage bill cut and we have nowt of a team and are in Champoinship.

Isn't that better than not getting to the end of the season? Why so angry?

Of course this is just an interim measure to get us to the end of the season. It wouldn’t surprise me if the clubs voted for this with the final point being that if we don’t get a proper bidder we go into the championship. I have already braced myself for championship rugby next year. If I was a fan of Fax or Fev I would also be calling for it. I think it probably is right that from now on a club that fails so badly as we have should step down and give others a chance. I would like to see promotion again though with the promoted team getting a guaranteed two years in super league. If they finish bottom in year 1 it is the second bottom team that would drop down. If they finish second bottom then it doesn’t matter. This would allow the promoted team to give two year deals knowing they have that time and income to improve.

shikran wrote:

Schoey 2 wrote: What a load of crap - the RFL/ SL or whoever are just looking to get Bulls to end of season. Fans thinking that this is a great result are more tan likley going to be disappointed in the off season when players leave, wage bill cut and we have nowt of a team and are in Champoinship.

Isn't that better than not getting to the end of the season? Why so angry?

Some people just love to be negative.

Hudzilla wrote:

shikran wrote:

Schoey 2 wrote: What a load of crap - the RFL/ SL or whoever are just looking to get Bulls to end of season. Fans thinking that this is a great result are more tan likley going to be disappointed in the off season when players leave, wage bill cut and we have nowt of a team and are in Champoinship.

Isn't that better than not getting to the end of the season? Why so angry?

Some people just love to be negative.

Doctor: the transplant was a success, you should be good for a while yet

Patient: You chief, why didn't you just off me right now? I'm going to be well upset down the line, this is an outrage

Prycey wrote:
Of course this is just an interim measure to get us to the end of the season. It wouldn’t surprise me if the clubs voted for this with the final point being that if we don’t get a proper bidder we go into the championship. I have already braced myself for championship rugby next year. If I was a fan of Fax or Fev I would also be calling for it. I think it probably is right that from now on a club that fails so badly as we have should step down and give others a chance. I would like to see promotion again though with the promoted team getting a guaranteed two years in super league. If they finish bottom in year 1 it is the second bottom team that would drop down. If they finish second bottom then it doesn’t matter. This would allow the promoted team to give two year deals knowing they have that time and income to improve.

I said basically the same only over 3 years, but got told I did not know what I was talking about. If P&R teturns, if the promoted team only lasts one season and is relegated, they will be in a bigger mess than us. Part time players won`t always want or be able to go full time on promotion so if under contract would have to be paid up. Most players full time will desire longer contracts at more money, so it makes sense to have a settling period for a promoted team.

Unfortunatley there is not a rosy side here yes i am glad someone as sucured the short term future of the club

But questions still have not been answered we as fans want the club to have a long term future

Where is Mr Khan and Suttcliffe in this they acording to the RFL have not submitted any bid officially

Why dont these parties sit round a table without Guilfoile who to me as done nothing to progress the sale of the club

Let the RFL or David Green chair a meeting between the interested parties and come to an ageement that suits both

This is only a part time fix it still does not give any indication for next year or behond

if a team that finishes top of the championship is not as good as the bottom two of super league then what is the point of them coming up.clubs are going to have to live within there means. if that means semi-pro then so be it .the bulls are in this mess because they lived beyond there means.we have a side that is hoping to finish eighth and we are losing a million pounds a year. what sort of side would we have if we only spent within our means.

Understood if the bid is accepted Guilfoile is out of the equation and new bidders approach the SLE. Guilfoile had the power to submit or not submit a bid to the RFL. Now they can go straight to SLE without hinderance

ianbd6 wrote:
if a team that finishes top of the championship is not as good as the bottom two of super league then what is the point of them coming up.clubs are going to have to live within there means. if that means semi-pro then so be it .the bulls are in this mess because they lived beyond there means.we have a side that is hoping to finish eighth and we are losing a million pounds a year. what sort of side would we have if we only spent within our means.

Spot on, Super League is not sustainable unless you have mega-rich backer.

I’m giving the SLE bid a qualified thumbs up. As far as I am aware the administrator has not accepted the offer yet either, so don’t count your chickens just yet. This looks like a positive move, but it is only temporary.
Moving forward we still need a buyer.

The SLE bid, if accepted, is only short term. It buys time to talk with interested parties, Greenwoods, Tordoff, curry house owners, property developers – more likely a combination of the lot. It also gives them time to speak with supporters groups.
This may just be the chance we supporters have been waiting for. If we do not organise now it may be too late. Of all the interested parties SLE are the most likely to talk to supporters. However, they can’t talk to 10,000 individuals, only representatives of those 10,000.

At the end of this season, if no buyer is found SLE will not be able to sustain a loss making club. At that point they will need to bring in money and reduce costs – that means selling the players.

Note to SLE and RFL: Set out to prospective purchasers exactly what the conditions of the sale of the club include and exclude and more precisely which conditions cannot be compromised (the ground lease and SL status presumably). In reality there is no such thing as an unconditional offer.

Note to prospective purchasers: provide a solid business plan, names of directors etc. otherwise you are wasting your time.

From another site....
The Bradford Bulls are around £1.5million in debt, the Rugby Football League's director of licensing and standards has revealed.
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In the meantime, Blake Solly, the Rugby Football League's director of licensing and standards, shed more light on the financially-stricken club in a meeting with BullBuilder, the Bradford supporters trust.

In the meeting Solly said he could not guarantee the Bulls would remain in Super League for 2013 and revealed that, if the bid is accepted, the Bradford players would be free to speak to other clubs to secure their futures for next season....
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Hope Gary Tasker has been busy over the last few weeks with Players Agents, he's certainly going to be busy from now on.

This is, and should only be seen as a lifeline.

I have said it many times, Guilfoyle has failed in his role as administrator, almost to the point of incompetence. Would be interesting to see the notes / correspondence file in his office on this one.

Hopefully SLE will now be able to broker a deal with an investor to takeover and restructure the Bulls within there means.

This is, and should only be seen as a lifeline.

I have said it many times, Guilfoyle has failed in his role as administrator, almost to the point of incompetence. Would be interesting to see the notes / correspondence file in his office on this one.

Hopefully SLE will now be able to broker a deal with an investor to takeover and restructure the Bulls within there means.

Get them to the end of the season and asset strip the best players hence why all the clubs voted to back the plan, as there were several clubs who want the Bulls out to reduce the number of teams and so increase their share of the tv rights money to fill in their financial black hole. If the RFL would just give a decision on whether they will be allowed in Super League maybe they could get some interested parties bidding. Are SLE going to pay these debts leaving the club debt free, or will it be like a debt consolidation loan where for the next several years we have to pay SLE back or will SLE sell players until they have raised £1.5million? Less than £1.5 million we get left with no players and have to go into the Championship with an IOU to pay back to SLE?
Many questions still to be answered.
If the players are being allowed to talk to other teams as there no guarantees there will be a bulls in super league then surely every single player will be going to other clubs to talk as it's their only job and Bulls have no owner to offer contracts.

This 'live within their means' business is the biggest red herring.

Only 2 RL clubs appear to live within their means. Seen a rant from a Huddersfield fan today berrating Bradford for not 'living within their means'.

In 2010 Hudds lost MORE that our TOTAL debt. This is not sustainable and it's expected that 2011's accounts will show the same.

It's about cash flow not debt. And without a millionaire fans throwing wads of cash about SL will grind to a halt very quickly.

See Man United as a case point, 450m in debt but still managing to cover the bills.

having read the small print (maybe not all of it)and overseen the written interview with BS (does that actually stand for Blake Solly?) via Bullbuilder.
I now see this as being someone
re arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic...We are given a lifeline till the end of the season, if there isn't a buyer willing to buy "unconditionally," we face the same uncertain future, as of now, into 2013 with a situation where the RFL will decide where we will play our games and, at a semi professional level, (because all our players have gone to other professional clubs) with no TV rights or exposure.
Therefore Oblivion- or back to the past ie 1963.

However the future could be bright, but it's still an "unconditional"gambl
e, if we have a business consortium who are willing to take a financial gamble on their purchase of the BBs.

So at the end of the season Guys and Gals, we will have a further 6 months to wonder what our future will be...Someone tell me I'm a weasel and I've got it all wrong ....please.

Incidently we have the situation of Nigel Wood saying one thing on the telly, and Blake Solly telling our fans via Bullbuilder the status is quo until the end of the season. "watch my lips no conditions!"

I must really be an old cynic.

I'm going to lie down in a darkened room now.

Hmm! Beware of Greeks bearing gifts come to mind. This seems a short term fix to get the Bulls to the end of the season. Is that what we want - just making up number. Liquidate, stop playing, try to form a newco, apply for Championship membership and start over again. Castleford and Wakefield will soon follow into the Championship so the competition will be good. Super League is unsustainable without the sugar-daddies and will soon implode. Three or four division rugby is on its way back with a mixture of full-time and part-time players. Never mind RIP the Bulls, RIP Super League!

Not only the super league needs a shake up and new ideas the whole of the league does

In this country we need at least two top quality leagues to improve the young players from the super league who could go out on loan.

Then you have very good players who are boarder line super league players

Super League will be 12 teams withing the next two years and promotion and relegation will be back that gives teams in both leagues the insentive to improve

If we have to go down to the championship then so be it.

At least we will be able to rebuild but we must try and keep hold of some of the young players.

There will not be enough clubs to take all the players on board some have already signed players for the coming season

I d hope that we can find a buyer who has the club at heart and will run it as it should have been with a future

bovine wrote:
I’m giving the SLE bid a qualified thumbs up. As far as I am aware the administrator has not accepted the offer yet either, so don’t count your chickens just yet. This looks like a positive move, but it is only temporary.
Moving forward we still need a buyer.

The SLE bid, if accepted, is only short term. It buys time to talk with interested parties, Greenwoods, Tordoff, curry house owners, property developers – more likely a combination of the lot. It also gives them time to speak with supporters groups.
This may just be the chance we supporters have been waiting for. If we do not organise now it may be too late. Of all the interested parties SLE are the most likely to talk to supporters. However, they can’t talk to 10,000 individuals, only representatives of those 10,000.

At the end of this season, if no buyer is found SLE will not be able to sustain a loss making club. At that point they will need to bring in money and reduce costs – that means selling the players.

Note to SLE and RFL: Set out to prospective purchasers exactly what the conditions of the sale of the club include and exclude and more precisely which conditions cannot be compromised (the ground lease and SL status presumably). In reality there is no such thing as an unconditional offer.

Note to prospective purchasers: provide a solid business plan, names of directors etc. otherwise you are wasting your time.

So then, and forgive my thought process Bovine.
If SLE and RFL wish to purchase the club from the administrator, in the next rfew days, can i say with clarity that Brendan Guilfoyle should ask them for the following before deciding?

Quote and paraphrase:

"Please provide a solid business plan, names of directors , and assurances that funds are in place, before I can consider your bid for this club otherwise you are wasting your time."

Just trying to get my tongue out of cheek on that one?

PS you are obviously right in what you say.

Tricky Dicky wrote:
Hmm! Beware of Greeks bearing gifts come to mind. This seems a short term fix to get the Bulls to the end of the season. Is that what we want - just making up number. Liquidate, stop playing, try to form a newco, apply for Championship membership and start over again. Castleford and Wakefield will soon follow into the Championship so the competition will be good. Super League is unsustainable without the sugar-daddies and will soon implode. Three or four division rugby is on its way back with a mixture of full-time and part-time players. Never mind RIP the Bulls, RIP Super League!

Why is Super League unsustainable without the sugar daddies?

shikran wrote:

Tricky Dicky wrote:
Hmm! Beware of Greeks bearing gifts come to mind. This seems a short term fix to get the Bulls to the end of the season. Is that what we want - just making up number. Liquidate, stop playing, try to form a newco, apply for Championship membership and start over again. Castleford and Wakefield will soon follow into the Championship so the competition will be good. Super League is unsustainable without the sugar-daddies and will soon implode. Three or four division rugby is on its way back with a mixture of full-time and part-time players. Never mind RIP the Bulls, RIP Super League!

Why is Super League unsustainable without the sugar daddies?

If London didn`t have a sugardaddy how would they be able to go to full cap on 1500 attendances?
How could Huddersfield survive on meagre crowds and have top class players without Ken Davy.
I think to sustain a Super League club you would need 9-10 thousand paying fans or full price season ticket holders, how many have that?

bartsbull wrote:
Not only the super league needs a shake up and new ideas the whole of the league does In this country we need at least two top quality leagues to improve the young players from the super league who could go out on loan. Then you have very good players who are boarder line super league players Super League will be 12 teams withing the next two years and promotion and relegation will be back that gives teams in both leagues the insentive to improve If we have to go down to the championship then so be it. At least we will be able to rebuild but we must try and keep hold of some of the young players. There will not be enough clubs to take all the players on board some have already signed players for the coming season I d hope that we can find a buyer who has the club at heart and will run it as it should have been with a future

My thoughts exactly, if we have to go down to the Championship - so be it - at least we will still have a club to support. Just please someone put us out of our misery

As the saying goes there's only one way to go from the top(down) and the bottom(up)?

I just don't want to go to the bottom to find out???

raisemeup wrote:

bovine wrote: I’m giving the SLE bid a qualified thumbs up. As far as I am aware the administrator has not accepted the offer yet either, so don’t count your chickens just yet. This looks like a positive move, but it is only temporary. Moving forward we still need a buyer. The SLE bid, if accepted, is only short term. It buys time to talk with interested parties, Greenwoods, Tordoff, curry house owners, property developers – more likely a combination of the lot. It also gives them time to speak with supporters groups. This may just be the chance we supporters have been waiting for. If we do not organise now it may be too late. Of all the interested parties SLE are the most likely to talk to supporters. However, they can’t talk to 10,000 individuals, only representatives of those 10,000. At the end of this season, if no buyer is found SLE will not be able to sustain a loss making club. At that point they will need to bring in money and reduce costs – that means selling the players. Note to SLE and RFL: Set out to prospective purchasers exactly what the conditions of the sale of the club include and exclude and more precisely which conditions cannot be compromised (the ground lease and SL status presumably). In reality there is no such thing as an unconditional offer. Note to prospective purchasers: provide a solid business plan, names of directors etc. otherwise you are wasting your time.

So then, and forgive my thought process Bovine. If SLE and RFL wish to purchase the club from the administrator, in the next rfew days, can i say with clarity that Brendan Guilfoyle should ask them for the following before deciding? Quote and paraphrase: "Please provide a solid business plan, names of directors , and assurances that funds are in place, before I can consider your bid for this club otherwise you are wasting your time." Just trying to get my tongue out of cheek on that one? PS you are obviously right in what you say.

Right on the money.

Also, if SLE is owned by the SL clubs it means one of the prospective owners i.e. the Bulls, is currently in administration.

Mumby was the best wrote:

shikran wrote:

Tricky Dicky wrote:
Hmm! Beware of Greeks bearing gifts come to mind. This seems a short term fix to get the Bulls to the end of the season. Is that what we want - just making up number. Liquidate, stop playing, try to form a newco, apply for Championship membership and start over again. Castleford and Wakefield will soon follow into the Championship so the competition will be good. Super League is unsustainable without the sugar-daddies and will soon implode. Three or four division rugby is on its way back with a mixture of full-time and part-time players. Never mind RIP the Bulls, RIP Super League!

Why is Super League unsustainable without the sugar daddies?

If London didn`t have a sugardaddy how would they be able to go to full cap on 1500 attendances?
How could Huddersfield survive on meagre crowds and have top class players without Ken Davy.
I think to sustain a Super League club you would need 9-10 thousand paying fans or full price season ticket holders, how many have that?

Yeah London is perhaps a special case as it was always to try raise the profile of the game, no?

Others _might_ survive without a wealthy owner spaffing money at them - just with less expensive players, and the super league might just lose some quality overall.

But for the Super League to "implode" surely there would have to be Bulls level of financial mismanagement and collapse in several clubs at once? Would it not be a surprise to see it happen "soon"?

shikran wrote:

Mumby was the best wrote:

shikran wrote:

Tricky Dicky wrote:
Hmm! Beware of Greeks bearing gifts come to mind. This seems a short term fix to get the Bulls to the end of the season. Is that what we want - just making up number. Liquidate, stop playing, try to form a newco, apply for Championship membership and start over again. Castleford and Wakefield will soon follow into the Championship so the competition will be good. Super League is unsustainable without the sugar-daddies and will soon implode. Three or four division rugby is on its way back with a mixture of full-time and part-time players. Never mind RIP the Bulls, RIP Super League!

Why is Super League unsustainable without the sugar daddies?

If London didn`t have a sugardaddy how would they be able to go to full cap on 1500 attendances?
How could Huddersfield survive on meagre crowds and have top class players without Ken Davy.
I think to sustain a Super League club you would need 9-10 thousand paying fans or full price season ticket holders, how many have that?

Yeah London is perhaps a special case as it was always to try raise the profile of the game, no?

Others _might_ survive without a wealthy owner spaffing money at them - just with less expensive players, and the super league might just lose some quality overall.

But for the Super League to "implode" surely there would have to be Bulls level of financial mismanagement and collapse in several clubs at once? Would it not be a surprise to see it happen "soon"?

Surely then it means there is not enough money available if you say the quality would go down if we pay players less to keep within it`s means. Its the sugar daddys who are inflating the value of the players and making clubs live beyond their means, tough luck if you aint got one.

Rugby League Family, my arse. Super League Cartel, more like.

What did the Rugby Leage Family ever do for Keighley, or Bramley, or Huyton, or Featherstone, and any of its non-Super League siblings?

Your Self-Righteously :)

TB

Shikran, Salford are in deep financial trouble, they have just off loaded another player to a hull team. If you read the rl sites, other newspapers, you would have seen their chairman, wanting immediate investment, to help club survive. Giants, chairman, put£400k, into club, to, as he puts it, holes in their finances. So, yes, there are other clubs in trouble. Yes, super league would implode if these two go bottoms up. Bearing in mind, there are no clubs in the championship, who meet all the needs of the franchise system.

Sheffieldbull wrote:
From another site....
The Bradford Bulls are around £1.5million in debt, the Rugby Football League's director of licensing and standards has revealed.
..
In the meantime, Blake Solly, the Rugby Football League's director of licensing and standards, shed more light on the financially-stricken club in a meeting with BullBuilder, the Bradford supporters trust.

In the meeting Solly said he could not guarantee the Bulls would remain in Super League for 2013 and revealed that, if the bid is accepted, the Bradford players would be free to speak to other clubs to secure their futures for next season....
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Hope Gary Tasker has been busy over the last few weeks with Players Agents, he's certainly going to be busy from now on.

Sounds to me like take over the club, let the rest of the clubs pick which players they want then championship next year....

As an outsider looking in can I ask a question/make a suggestion?

I have read a lot in the last few weeks about how poor the finances of some of the clubs are. Would it be better for your sport if you went to a league of 8, 9 or 10 and then played each other 4 times a season? Would you would get more high quality games in front of larger crowds and if you limited the number of overseas players would you improve the quality of the English players?

As a City fan I am really pleased to see that you might have some light at the end of the tunnel, just hope it's not an oncoming train!!

time for fans to put a members club together in the style of Barcelona FC.
Membership costs £150 (adults)per season.
7000 members =£1.05m
5000 pay on the day fans@£20 = £100,000 x 13 games = £1.3m
Sky money £1.25m
Total income £3.6m

We are told £4.5m is needed to successfully run a SL club

that means we need a further £900,000 from shirt & ground sponsorships, merchandise sales, food & drink sales, 10% share of away tickets.i reckon we are just about there.

A chief executive would run the business & members would be able to vote for the supporters representatives on the board. along with an RFL / council representative.

Further money could be raised by hiring out the coral stand to a restaurant chain. maybe getting Park avenue to ground share or even Twenty20 cricket on an artificial pitch. we could hold the mela at the ground or rock concerts.There's so many other ways we could bring money into the club. we cannot fail!!

what better way to kick of the 150 years celebrations in 2013 than by having a true "peoples team"

bradfordbronco wrote:
time for fans to put a members club together in the style of Barcelona FC.
Membership costs £150 (adults)per season.
7000 members =£1.05m
5000 pay on the day fans@£20 = £100,000 x 13 games = £1.3m
Sky money £1.25m
Total income £3.6m

We are told £4.5m is needed to successfully run a SL club

that means we need a further £900,000 from shirt & ground sponsorships, merchandise sales, food & drink sales, 10% share of away tickets.i reckon we are just about there.

A chief executive would run the business & members would be able to vote for the supporters representatives on the board. along with an RFL / council representative.

Further money could be raised by hiring out the coral stand to a restaurant chain. maybe getting Park avenue to ground share or even Twenty20 cricket on an artificial pitch. we could hold the mela at the ground or rock concerts.There's so many other ways we could bring money into the club. we cannot fail!!

what better way to kick of the 150 years celebrations in 2013 than by having a true "peoples team"

Sky don't pay money to the championship clubs.
When all your best have gone do you really expect 12,000 Bradford fans to turn up every week?

Its a lifeline but certainly not the pot of gold some smarmy rses were gloating about yesterday. We can only hope a miracle happens in the next couple of months because if not Odsal will look a sorry place.

bovine wrote:

raisemeup wrote:

bovine wrote: I’m giving the SLE bid a qualified thumbs up. As far as I am aware the administrator has not accepted the offer yet either, so don’t count your chickens just yet. This looks like a positive move, but it is only temporary. Moving forward we still need a buyer. The SLE bid, if accepted, is only short term. It buys time to talk with interested parties, Greenwoods, Tordoff, curry house owners, property developers – more likely a combination of the lot. It also gives them time to speak with supporters groups. This may just be the chance we supporters have been waiting for. If we do not organise now it may be too late. Of all the interested parties SLE are the most likely to talk to supporters. However, they can’t talk to 10,000 individuals, only representatives of those 10,000. At the end of this season, if no buyer is found SLE will not be able to sustain a loss making club. At that point they will need to bring in money and reduce costs – that means selling the players. Note to SLE and RFL: Set out to prospective purchasers exactly what the conditions of the sale of the club include and exclude and more precisely which conditions cannot be compromised (the ground lease and SL status presumably). In reality there is no such thing as an unconditional offer. Note to prospective purchasers: provide a solid business plan, names of directors etc. otherwise you are wasting your time.

So then, and forgive my thought process Bovine. If SLE and RFL wish to purchase the club from the administrator, in the next rfew days, can i say with clarity that Brendan Guilfoyle should ask them for the following before deciding? Quote and paraphrase: "Please provide a solid business plan, names of directors , and assurances that funds are in place, before I can consider your bid for this club otherwise you are wasting your time." Just trying to get my tongue out of cheek on that one? PS you are obviously right in what you say.

Right on the money.

Also, if SLE is owned by the SL clubs it means one of the prospective owners i.e. the Bulls, is currently in administration.

Dead right Bovine, never thought of that!
And also a shareholder as they(Bulls) own 8.5% share of SLE, now by my calculations if there is 14 clubs that own SLE. The Bulls are a major shareholder?

bradfordbronco wrote:
time for fans to put a members club together in the style of Barcelona FC.
Membership costs £150 (adults)per season.
7000 members =£1.05m
5000 pay on the day fans@£20 = £100,000 x 13 games = £1.3m
Sky money £1.25m
Total income £3.6m

We are told £4.5m is needed to successfully run a SL club

that means we need a further £900,000 from shirt & ground sponsorships, merchandise sales, food & drink sales, 10% share of away tickets.i reckon we are just about there.

A chief executive would run the business & members would be able to vote for the supporters representatives on the board. along with an RFL / council representative.

Further money could be raised by hiring out the coral stand to a restaurant chain. maybe getting Park avenue to ground share or even Twenty20 cricket on an artificial pitch. we could hold the mela at the ground or rock concerts.There's so many other ways we could bring money into the club. we cannot fail!!

what better way to kick of the 150 years celebrations in 2013 than by having a true "peoples team"

Turnover in 2010/11 was £3.95m

2009/10 was £4.56m...so without further different ideas, you can see by those figures our clubs T/O was well on the decline, and that was a lack of innovation as the figures show.
But you are right BB, what we need is to to raise the T/O but more importantly the profitabilty, by innovation and using the resources available. The saying being" Turnover is vanity, profit is sanity!"
But this is something we clearly will not be allowed to do now.

I do like your sentiments? And you are right with making a big thing about our 150th Year in 2013.

Hold that thought, and I am sure if we can get the "suits" thinking about what our club means to ordinary folk in the city, we may just get there.
Let's not forget our future though, the kids, so family tickets as well!

Shelfrhino wrote:

bradfordbronco wrote:
time for fans to put a members club together in the style of Barcelona FC.
Membership costs £150 (adults)per season.
7000 members =£1.05m
5000 pay on the day fans@£20 = £100,000 x 13 games = £1.3m
Sky money £1.25m
Total income £3.6m

We are told £4.5m is needed to successfully run a SL club

that means we need a further £900,000 from shirt & ground sponsorships, merchandise sales, food & drink sales, 10% share of away tickets.i reckon we are just about there.

A chief executive would run the business & members would be able to vote for the supporters representatives on the board. along with an RFL / council representative.

Further money could be raised by hiring out the coral stand to a restaurant chain. maybe getting Park avenue to ground share or even Twenty20 cricket on an artificial pitch. we could hold the mela at the ground or rock concerts.There's so many other ways we could bring money into the club. we cannot fail!!

what better way to kick of the 150 years celebrations in 2013 than by having a true "peoples team"

Sky don't pay money to the championship clubs.
When all your best have gone do you really expect 12,000 Bradford fans to turn up every week?

You're right there SR..

PS Hope your good lady is getting her Health back on line.

raisemeup wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

bradfordbronco wrote:
time for fans to put a members club together in the style of Barcelona FC.
Membership costs £150 (adults)per season.
7000 members =£1.05m
5000 pay on the day fans@£20 = £100,000 x 13 games = £1.3m
Sky money £1.25m
Total income £3.6m

We are told £4.5m is needed to successfully run a SL club

that means we need a further £900,000 from shirt & ground sponsorships, merchandise sales, food & drink sales, 10% share of away tickets.i reckon we are just about there.

A chief executive would run the business & members would be able to vote for the supporters representatives on the board. along with an RFL / council representative.

Further money could be raised by hiring out the coral stand to a restaurant chain. maybe getting Park avenue to ground share or even Twenty20 cricket on an artificial pitch. we could hold the mela at the ground or rock concerts.There's so many other ways we could bring money into the club. we cannot fail!!

what better way to kick of the 150 years celebrations in 2013 than by having a true "peoples team"

Sky don't pay money to the championship clubs.
When all your best have gone do you really expect 12,000 Bradford fans to turn up every week?

You're right there SR..

PS Hope your good lady is getting her Health back on line.

Cheers

Hi Shelf Rhino. My figures are based on us staying in SL. Yes, time is running out, but If WE (nothing to you with you by the way) act quickly and put our case to the RFL. We can still stay in SL, keep the players we want and would easily average 12000 per game. Prob even more.

If we get relegated then the costs come down also. So either way, a members (SLC52 ears will have pricked up now!!) club is def the way forward

If only life was so simple. Getting like oscar speeches on here lately with all the well wishes for the unwell, as a finely tuned athlete I am feeling left out.

Sheffieldbull wrote:
From another site.... The Bradford Bulls are around £1.5million in debt, the Rugby Football League's director of licensing and standards has revealed. .. In the meantime, Blake Solly, the Rugby Football League's director of licensing and standards, shed more light on the financially-stricken club in a meeting with BullBuilder, the Bradford supporters trust. In the meeting Solly said he could not guarantee the Bulls would remain in Super League for 2013 and revealed that, if the bid is accepted, the Bradford players would be free to speak to other clubs to secure their futures for next season.... . Hope Gary Tasker has been busy over the last few weeks with Players Agents, he's certainly going to be busy from now on.

You read on another site Sheff ?
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theviking62 wrote:
Shikran, Salford are in deep financial trouble, they have just off loaded another player to a hull team. If you read the rl sites, other newspapers, you would have seen their chairman, wanting immediate investment, to help club survive. Giants, chairman, put£400k, into club, to, as he puts it, holes in their finances. So, yes, there are other clubs in trouble. Yes, super league would implode if these two go bottoms up. Bearing in mind, there are no clubs in the championship, who meet all the needs of the franchise system.

If you read on other sites ?

My good friend Viking no better than Sheff,
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My info comes from people in the know and is not taken from other sites like my 2 bestest friends quoted above.