The only way is up for Bradford Bulls, says Kopczak (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

"Kopczak did, however, take positives from the fact that Bradford never threw in the towel and scored tries through Jamie Langley and Elliot Kear in the final quarter."
Yes, when Catalan were tired and and cold and had already won the game. What tripe these guys do spout. They talk like they play - rubbish.

"There were a lot of positives and we’ll take that out of the video and move forward.”
Hmm well I for one didn't see a lot of positives ? in fact i didnt see any ! i did have high hopes for the season but fiollowing the Hull game and now this weeks performance it looks like my optimism may well have been misplaced. things need to improve and fast or we are going to have a vrry long painful season ahead of us.

Anyone who took any positives from that debacle needs therapy!

Taking positives out of the game is just bulls**t, Mcnamara speak, we were terrible, maybe we'll win a couple of games this season and all the gullible fools will be jumping round saying' i told you we were a good side' but the reality is i can't see 3 sides in that league actually worse than us, BOTTOM 4 it is then, mr Hood.

Far Away wrote:
"Kopczak did, however, take positives from the fact that Bradford never threw in the towel and scored tries through Jamie Langley and Elliot Kear in the final quarter."
Yes, when Catalan were tired and and cold and had already won the game. What tripe these guys do spout. They talk like they play - rubbish.

Its far more tiring when you are defending and Bradford would have been far more tired than Catalan, so you muppet give credit where credit is due. Perhaps you are putting too much vinegar on your tripe, so lay off it a bit, it might do you good.

Thing is I cant honestly see our start getting any better, especially with Potters motivational outlook.

Hood while he may have the money accounted for behind the scenes, hasnt really any nouse for the playing side or coaching team.

He set on McNamara, which was to be fair the right thing to do, but he lacked balls, by keeping him on at Odsal far too long. Even when he did allow McNamara the England job he still wanted to keep him on to see out his contract.

So there's no way Potter will leave before the end of the year. He will just pop off back to aus in October.

Meanwhile, Mr.B.Noble sits and waits for a call that won't come...

boring boring boring shut up Craig and let your game do the talking and as for things can only get better, they can, but I very much doubt it.

Craig the whole point of the game is to move forward..especially when you have the ball....ok ??

Potter for the sack wrote:

Far Away wrote:
"Kopczak did, however, take positives from the fact that Bradford never threw in the towel and scored tries through Jamie Langley and Elliot Kear in the final quarter."
Yes, when Catalan were tired and and cold and had already won the game. What tripe these guys do spout. They talk like they play - rubbish.

Its far more tiring when you are defending and Bradford would have been far more tired than Catalan, so you muppet give credit where credit is due. Perhaps you are putting too much vinegar on your tripe, so lay off it a bit, it might do you good.

The only muppet is you Potter for the sack. Of course Catalans would be cold and tired having travelled from the South of France. If you think theres any "credit" as you call it in relation to the Bulls right now it's also you whos being fed tripe. Try to understand the game and accept Catalans put the cue on the rack as teams often do once they've got the job done.

If I remember correctly Karl Harrison got Salford to 6th in the Premiership with few resources. For some reason I can't remember he was sacked. His success at little Batley was outstanding and he will do the same at Halifax. I join with those who see him as an option for next season.

murphyslaw wrote:

Potter for the sack wrote:

Far Away wrote: "Kopczak did, however, take positives from the fact that Bradford never threw in the towel and scored tries through Jamie Langley and Elliot Kear in the final quarter." Yes, when Catalan were tired and and cold and had already won the game. What tripe these guys do spout. They talk like they play - rubbish.

Its far more tiring when you are defending and Bradford would have been far more tired than Catalan, so you muppet give credit where credit is due. Perhaps you are putting too much vinegar on your tripe, so lay off it a bit, it might do you good.

The only muppet is you Potter for the sack. Of course Catalans would be cold and tired having travelled from the South of France. If you think theres any "credit" as you call it in relation to the Bulls right now it's also you whos being fed tripe. Try to understand the game and accept Catalans put the cue on the rack as teams often do once they've got the job done.

Well said, Catalans had done the job and didn't need to risk going in 100% as the 2 points were safe. Potter for the sack, do you really think they deserve credit for scoring 2 pathetic consolation tries against a team that were already patting themselves on the back for the win ? Get a grip.

Yes you do need to work hard in training this week, and oh yes, also on Sunday for 80 minutes. Please remind the other lads!

Will Phil Joseph play on Sunday? After the way the Dragons ran through us up the middle, we need him to plug the gap.
Let’s see how good he really is.
COM’ON YOU BULLS.

Potter looks out of his depth which is a major concern.If you look at his body language he looks lost, I dont think he has the answers & we could do with bringing in s decent assistant to help the cause. People moan on about St H but he is not a defense coach we dont have specific coaches. We need to focus on defense I would love to see Mike Forshaw come into this role. Its no good scoring 30 point & conceding 40 points defense is our weakness. I thought we hit the line in attack well but Catalans defense held well we look ok in the halves & on the wings but our pack is poor. We need to look at another forward Tom has too much expectation on his shoulders he is not his brother give the boy time. Potter needs to accept he needs to change his coaching set up & he needs to do it fast.Another couple of games like that & he will lose even the faithful ! Its not the losing its the way we lose that grinds me down.

I don't see us winning on Sunday. Cas to win 30-18, just cannot see us getting a win anytime soon. Koppy did ok Sunday IMO but the rest of them were a joke. Nick Scrotum, Langley, Burgess & Sibbet all need to step up at least 5 gears. Just what has gone so badly wrong with Nick? I would give him a few more games but if he does not improve at least 100% time to say goodbye.

murphyslaw wrote:

Potter for the sack wrote:

Far Away wrote:
"Kopczak did, however, take positives from the fact that Bradford never threw in the towel and scored tries through Jamie Langley and Elliot Kear in the final quarter."
Yes, when Catalan were tired and and cold and had already won the game. What tripe these guys do spout. They talk like they play - rubbish.

Its far more tiring when you are defending and Bradford would have been far more tired than Catalan, so you muppet give credit where credit is due. Perhaps you are putting too much vinegar on your tripe, so lay off it a bit, it might do you good.

The only muppet is you Potter for the sack. Of course Catalans would be cold and tired having travelled from the South of France. If you think theres any "credit" as you call it in relation to the Bulls right now it's also you whos being fed tripe. Try to understand the game and accept Catalans put the cue on the rack as teams often do once they've got the job done.

Oh I do understand the game having played it for years and you do have to look for positives, even in defeat. Catalan are a good side and will probably end up in top 4.

mumbyfan wrote:
Thing is I cant honestly see our start getting any better, especially with Potters motivational outlook. Hood while he may have the money accounted for behind the scenes, hasnt really any nouse for the playing side or coaching team. He set on McNamara, which was to be fair the right thing to do, but he lacked balls, by keeping him on at Odsal far too long. Even when he did allow McNamara the England job he still wanted to keep him on to see out his contract. So there's no way Potter will leave before the end of the year. He will just pop off back to aus in October. Meanwhile, Mr.B.Noble sits and waits for a call that won't come...

no way will noble come back whilst the present board are in charge.
Meanwhile same old crap from the players both on the field and in the papers.
But still the rose coloured spec bregade will continue to shoot down anyone who dares to say our team isn't good enough.
Truth is, we've got cheap tickets and a cheap team to match. But i wonder just how many of those who call themselves true fans on here would be there if season tickets were at full price.
About the same 3000 to 4000 as we had before i suspect.
recruiting players from bottom S/L teams and reserve NRL grade don't make us a good team.
Its time for a total shake up at odsal i agree, but in the current financial climate who's got the spare money to put into R/L.
Its easy for critics to say bulls board must go but whos going to replace them?

Interesting to hear that muppetslaw, sorry, murphyslaw thinks that the Catalan team would be 'tired' having travelled up from the South of France - mmm! Wouldn't have thought that a flight of less than two hours would unduly trouble a fit SL outfit - maybe be it was the arduous 50 min coach trip from Leeds on Sunday that 'tired' them out eh?
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The simple fact is that they are a very good team, have a strong squad and are well coached. That together with our inept performance showed the gulf between the two sides at this time.
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It's noticeable that you question other peoples knowledge and understanding of the game whilst at the same time demonstrating very little of the same yourself. Maybe you should stick to vilifying the Bulls Board members given your obvious vast knowledge of running Professional Sports Teams.
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There! all that and not one mention of an arse.... oops!-sorry - it's just so synonymous with your views Mr Murphy.

murphyslaw wrote:

Potter for the sack wrote:

Far Away wrote:
"Kopczak did, however, take positives from the fact that Bradford never threw in the towel and scored tries through Jamie Langley and Elliot Kear in the final quarter."
Yes, when Catalan were tired and and cold and had already won the game. What tripe these guys do spout. They talk like they play - rubbish.

Its far more tiring when you are defending and Bradford would have been far more tired than Catalan, so you muppet give credit where credit is due. Perhaps you are putting too much vinegar on your tripe, so lay off it a bit, it might do you good.

The only muppet is you Potter for the sack. Of course Catalans would be cold and tired having travelled from the South of France. If you think theres any "credit" as you call it in relation to the Bulls right now it's also you whos being fed tripe. Try to understand the game and accept Catalans put the cue on the rack as teams often do once they've got the job done.

Cheers, Murphys Law. Potter for the sack states that it is more tiring defending than attacking. That ain't going to happen to the Bulls untill they start defending. If the Bulls were tiring it could only have been due to being pulled and pushed all over the park chasing shadows.

PFTS is correct, we need to take the positives because confidence is a precious thing as is team spirit.
Regarding Potter looking out of his depth I think it more likely he is terribly frustrated since he has to bite his tongue and not reply to some of the vicious comments on here. It should be clear to everone that Briggs had to go to free up space under the salary cap to sign Joseph. In other words Potter knows the pack is weak, (if only we could have shifted Sykes & Platt). Moreover, the pack is doubly weakened because we have a lot of players coming back from injury. And now Bateman is out for several weeks another blow, since he promises to be extraordinary maybe even the creative loose forward we so desperately need.
It may well be that we lose the first six matches before everyone gets up to speed. New half backs always take time to settle in and it doesn't happen in practice - they need game time. From what I saw of Sammut and Gale on Sunday, I think we could do really well once they settle in and form a good partnership.
The pack could be ok once everyone is up to speed and Bert & Joseph are playing.
I can't wait to see this big backline start firing when Lulia & possibly Pryce join in.
It's early days Mr Potter youre a good coach and you will win something signicant before too long, hopefully with the Bulls.

I think Criag Kopcak has a great deal of unfulfilled potential as a forward. We desperately need him to start displaying it consistently.
To those who feel Mr Potter is being vilefied, that's a bit strong. Criticised, yes, but if he can't stand the heat don't attempt to become a master chef.
You have to chuckle at Craig's comments though. "The only way is up" is an undeniable fact - we currently lie bottom of the table (albeit after one game). "Things can only get better!" - we sincerely hope so Criag, sincerely hope so.
And sorry to dampen the enthusiam of some at our second-half comeback. They were consolation tries and if that's all we are able to score we'll be the ones that need consoling.
And to those who put it all down to injuries, sorry but other sides also have them (as did Catalan) and all sides will continue to have them. Super League Rugby is a squad game and to say we need a particular thirteen to be available for the side to compete is wanting the impossible.
Commitment - pride and passion in the shirt is the first thing that is required. If the side finds that all other worries will fall away.

ROTHERHAMBULL wrote:
PFTS is correct, we need to take the positives because confidence is a precious thing as is team spirit. Regarding Potter looking out of his depth I think it more likely he is terribly frustrated since he has to bite his tongue and not reply to some of the vicious comments on here. It should be clear to everone that Briggs had to go to free up space under the salary cap to sign Joseph. In other words Potter knows the pack is weak, (if only we could have shifted Sykes & Platt). Moreover, the pack is doubly weakened because we have a lot of players coming back from injury. And now Bateman is out for several weeks another blow, since he promises to be extraordinary maybe even the creative loose forward we so desperately need. It may well be that we lose the first six matches before everyone gets up to speed. New half backs always take time to settle in and it doesn't happen in practice - they need game time. From what I saw of Sammut and Gale on Sunday, I think we could do really well once they settle in and form a good partnership. The pack could be ok once everyone is up to speed and Bert & Joseph are playing. I can't wait to see this big backline start firing when Lulia & possibly Pryce join in. It's early days Mr Potter youre a good coach and you will win something signicant before too long, hopefully with the Bulls.

wow someone who can actually see the wood for the trees - I salute you, cracking post!

ROTHERHAMBULL wrote:
PFTS is correct, we need to take the positives because confidence is a precious thing as is team spirit. Regarding Potter looking out of his depth I think it more likely he is terribly frustrated since he has to bite his tongue and not reply to some of the vicious comments on here. It should be clear to everone that Briggs had to go to free up space under the salary cap to sign Joseph. In other words Potter knows the pack is weak, (if only we could have shifted Sykes & Platt). Moreover, the pack is doubly weakened because we have a lot of players coming back from injury. And now Bateman is out for several weeks another blow, since he promises to be extraordinary maybe even the creative loose forward we so desperately need. It may well be that we lose the first six matches before everyone gets up to speed. New half backs always take time to settle in and it doesn't happen in practice - they need game time. From what I saw of Sammut and Gale on Sunday, I think we could do really well once they settle in and form a good partnership. The pack could be ok once everyone is up to speed and Bert & Joseph are playing. I can't wait to see this big backline start firing when Lulia & possibly Pryce join in. It's early days Mr Potter youre a good coach and you will win something signicant before too long, hopefully with the Bulls.

If Potter knew that the pack was weak,like the rest of us knew, why did he concentrate on signing backs?
The prop forward he signed was only because Lynch had moved to Hull. I think that Joseph looked a good signing on very little money and was given is chance.
As for Briggs having to go to allow us to sign Joseph, I thought that the way the RL monitored the salary cap they would n't have allowed us to sign a player untill we had actually made space within the cap.
I hope that the terms of Briggs loan allows us to recall him, which I'm sure it must, since sods law says that in about 3 games time all the halves will be injured and Sykes and Le Strange will be playing there!

I am not a coach but 2 major things are wrong with the Bulls.First they have no physical presence.No aggresion or fight in them.If there was a fight on the field they would, stand back and let is team mate get a good hiding instead of joining in.We let our selfs get bullied by the other pack.Sibbit,Hargreav
es and Scruton are not playing like super league players.The other big problem is we dont move up quicker enough from 10 yards.Look at all the top teams as soon as you play the ball,they are right in your faces.The + side I thought Kear and Purtell played well together.But you can have the best backs playing in the world for you ,but if your pack are not dominate you will not win a game

went 2 watch bulls on what sunday what a crock! best rugby played by anyone from bradford were the kids at half time !
as for the positives only positive i could see is if potter walked! they all need a kick up the rear & play like the professionals they are supposed to be.play for the fans that come every week to watch you!!!!

Presence is important that's what distinguishes Bateman from the rest, he has presence in spades. I hope we are saving plenty of brass up to keep him.
Regarding the play the ball, I noticed that the Dragons kept moving forward from the mark at the play the ball. Donaldson protested, and got penalised for it on one occasion. I wonder if this upset up defence around the ruck? I thought that the Bulls discipine, despite the failure of Childs to spot this or indeed to award the Sammut try, was excellent. Once one side gains momentum it is hard to stop them. Essentially, Dragons were at full strength, Pryce would have upset the flow in the halves. Ther injured wingers weren't missed since the pack and halves and fullback did the damage.
I'm glad we are playing some of the harder teams early on this season. We can afford to bide our time and get the team functioning as a unit by the time we meet some of the easier teams. By then they will have had the stuffing knocked out of them.
So for now, just keep plugging away Bulls. Remember what happened at the Rhinos last season. We can afford to lose a few if we learn from our mistakes and begin to knit together as a team.
All this doom and gloom is far too early. I'm sure Potter will have put the Bulls straight in his analysis of the match. But i do hope that he challenges Childs about our opponents moving forward from the mark. To my mind it was blatant.

ROTHERHAMBULL wrote:
Presence is important that's what distinguishes Bateman from the rest, he has presence in spades. I hope we are saving plenty of brass up to keep him.
Regarding the play the ball, I noticed that the Dragons kept moving forward from the mark at the play the ball. Donaldson protested, and got penalised for it on one occasion. I wonder if this upset up defence around the ruck? I thought that the Bulls discipine, despite the failure of Childs to spot this or indeed to award the Sammut try, was excellent. Once one side gains momentum it is hard to stop them. Essentially, Dragons were at full strength, Pryce would have upset the flow in the halves. Ther injured wingers weren't missed since the pack and halves and fullback did the damage.
I'm glad we are playing some of the harder teams early on this season. We can afford to bide our time and get the team functioning as a unit by the time we meet some of the easier teams. By then they will have had the stuffing knocked out of them.
So for now, just keep plugging away Bulls. Remember what happened at the Rhinos last season. We can afford to lose a few if we learn from our mistakes and begin to knit together as a team.
All this doom and gloom is far too early. I'm sure Potter will have put the Bulls straight in his analysis of the match. But i do hope that he challenges Childs about our opponents moving forward from the mark. To my mind it was blatant.

You will be surprised to find that this season in particular there is likely to be no easy teams, or easy games. Not for the Bulls at any rate.

We have to remember that we had no Elima, Whitehead, Lulia, Pryce, Olbison or Manuokafoa on Sunday and with those players in the side we can only improve.

I thought we were outclassed on Sunday by the likes of Dureau, Henderson and Menzies. We should have never let Menzies go.

I hope the team will put in more effort on Sunday at Castleford than some of the spineless efforts they showed against Catalans.The defence needs to be sorted out fast as we are shipping too many tries.

I think too many people are over reacting saying "the season is over" - well it isn't, we've had one game and we've been outplayed by a side who will probably be in the top 5.

We need Lulia and Pryce in the team on Sunday in an attempt to beat a Castleford side who I think we can beat, after watching their game against on Saturday against Salford.

I am annoyed that Potter has let Briggs go to Featherstone as I thought he was good in the time he got last season.

Give Potter a little more time before calling for his head. If he does go I would want Harrison in.

HA HA HA Things Will Only Get Better When Potter Goes And Is Useless Assistant Coaches go,Go Know For The Fans Who Work Hard To Pay YOUR Wages,I cant See Sponsors Queing Up For This Rubbish, get Nobby Back.

bit of a tongue in cheek comment from craig seeing as we are bottom of the league !

I can smell more bull **** coming out of Odsal.

Do yourself a favour guys and start supporting a decent club, lol

How do you define decent Mike ? hope your not sugesting we all sell our souls & support the Pudsey Rhino`s !

bullybullman wrote:
How do you define decent Mike ? hope your not sugesting we all sell our souls & support the Pudsey Rhino`s !

Yeah, you know you want to really

i tell thee sithers, that mick( the PLANT POTTER) has to pack his bags n go on along halliday ta see his nephews BILL AN BEN THA OTHER FLOWER POT MEN!!!, wave ya wand POTTER an dissapear YA USELESS TW@T

One positive that the team could take on board from last Sunday's match is to learn one word "Speed". Speed off the line in defence. Don't let the opposition come on to you at pace. Speed at the play of the ball, Just consider how many times Ian Henderson had us on the back foot with a quick play of the ball at the ruck. Speed off the floor. The quicker you regain your feet the quicker the play the ball, this was Andy Lynch's weakness in his game and last but not least speed in returning to your defensive/attacking pattern.
Learn the importance of this word and you will compete with any side in the league. Ignore it and see how the likes of players such as Rangi Chase will tear us apart as he has Speed of thought and Speed in his play in abundance. The whole set up in my opinion, having watched this game for more years than I care to remember, is so slow in comparison to the other teams in SL. The only other observation I would make is that the team start the game and indeed the warm up as if they intend to WIN the match so up the intensity from the outset!!

Steam Pigs wrote:

ROTHERHAMBULL wrote: PFTS is correct, we need to take the positives because confidence is a precious thing as is team spirit. Regarding Potter looking out of his depth I think it more likely he is terribly frustrated since he has to bite his tongue and not reply to some of the vicious comments on here. It should be clear to everone that Briggs had to go to free up space under the salary cap to sign Joseph. In other words Potter knows the pack is weak, (if only we could have shifted Sykes & Platt). Moreover, the pack is doubly weakened because we have a lot of players coming back from injury. And now Bateman is out for several weeks another blow, since he promises to be extraordinary maybe even the creative loose forward we so desperately need. It may well be that we lose the first six matches before everyone gets up to speed. New half backs always take time to settle in and it doesn't happen in practice - they need game time. From what I saw of Sammut and Gale on Sunday, I think we could do really well once they settle in and form a good partnership. The pack could be ok once everyone is up to speed and Bert & Joseph are playing. I can't wait to see this big backline start firing when Lulia & possibly Pryce join in. It's early days Mr Potter youre a good coach and you will win something signicant before too long, hopefully with the Bulls.

wow someone who can actually see the wood for the trees - I salute you, cracking post!

he will never win anything in this country as a coach, especially with the shower of **** he's signed, you're absolutely delusional if you think he will, i'll bet any of you we never finish in the top 8 whilst he is at Odsal ( even though this is his last season)

Bulls and Bantams = Crap