Akbars agrees donation to Bradford Bulls after meeting with Omar Khan (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

A strange one from akbars giving money to the club owned by rival curry shop owner, Can't wait for Brian Adams concert so I can take Helga. Well done sutcliffe you managed to get club nowt but still have a pop at our sport.

Sutcliffe's right - we have a major problem in that the RFL just can't attract sponsors or carry out effective marketing. Bruiser Wood is a bean counter what we need is a salesman!

The RFL wants it both ways. They held back approx £400,000 of sky money from the old club once they went into admin as a punishment. They also docked them 6 points which effictively meant them missing out on the play off money and "gifted" that money to wakefield instead. They then "loaned" the old club £200,000.

They are now withholding £500,000 from the New club as a penalty for the old club going into admin. The Bulls will still appear on TV next season yet they wont be compensated as much as the other clubs for the loss in revenue they will suffer as a result. The Bulls might not be the big team they once were but they still add a significant value to the competition and are one the reasons why Sky continue to back the sport and pay each club £1.25m per year.

Its time to draw a line under the problems of the previous business & let the new business compete on a level playing field

My old mate tanker (Nigel Wood) does not count many beans by the looks of him lol

Meningascoming wrote:
Sutcliffe's right - we have a major problem in that the RFL just can't attract sponsors or carry out effective marketing. Bruiser Wood is a bean counter what we need is a salesman!

And another Peter Deakin type of Marketeer!

He would have been the ideal candinate for the job, the RFL Need to make sure the people they have can do the job!

Sadly they have employed new people to carry forward old ideas.

bradfordbronco wrote:
The RFL wants it both ways. They held back approx £400,000 of sky money from the old club once they went into admin as a punishment. They also docked them 6 points which effictively meant them missing out on the play off money and "gifted" that money to wakefield instead. They then "loaned" the old club £200,000.

They are now withholding £500,000 from the New club as a penalty for the old club going into admin. The Bulls will still appear on TV next season yet they wont be compensated as much as the other clubs for the loss in revenue they will suffer as a result. The Bulls might not be the big team they once were but they still add a significant value to the competition and are one the reasons why Sky continue to back the sport and pay each club £1.25m per year.

Its time to draw a line under the problems of the previous business & let the new business compete on a level playing field

I couldn't have put it better, you are 100% right whatever TVOR will say in his soon to be post.

Don't have a go at Mr Wood, No one on here could do a better job.
Mrs R back on in a sheep like manner again,

Baa Baa

Good news-the more the merrier.

Yes it is good news, like you say the more the merrier.
You can tell it`s got to be good news cos the CRETIN is against it.

I just don't see how, when the RFL and Super League were so keen to take over the club when it looked like going under, they now think that by witholding money things will be better. It would have been interesting to see how much they would have witheld from themselves if their takeover had come off!

What I would like to know is what the RFL are doing with the withheld monies? Are they extra profit to them? or Are they spread to the other SL clubs ? or what ? Sorry but my opinion Mr Wood is as thick as and I don`t expect he would answer the question even if some journalist asked him straight.

portugalbull wrote:
What I would like to know is what the RFL are doing with the withheld monies? Are they extra profit to them? or Are they spread to the other SL clubs ? or what ? Sorry but my opinion Mr Wood is as thick as and I don`t expect he would answer the question even if some journalist asked him straight.

What I don't understand is the legality of withholding 50% of a sum of money, given by a seperate organisation (SKY corporation) for the express use of all Clubs in the Super League, based on a contractual arrangement that saw these clubs relinquish any fee for a game televised by SKY. If all figures are accurately reported this amount will be £50k per month not £100k.

In law surely is it either Blackmail or extortion in it's worst sense of course?

Ie A person or an organisation is
coerced by officials to accept this as a penalty or they would not be allowed a licence to survive?

Surely the SKY production should be a little upset to be even seen as a party, by association , to this situation?.

The bradford bullsharks, the club with the bowl that just keeps on begging.
You won't last the season out.

Seeing as the RFL and Super League have decided to deduct the £500,000 from the money due from Sky have they thought of giving this back to the people who were conned out of the £500,000 by the former owners. Why are they penalizing these supporters again. Recently Mr. Sutcliffe said he had seen the list of which way the SL teams voted, could he please advise us of which teams voted to deduct this money because I for one do not wish to visit their grounds and give them any more of my money, which I have done for over 40 years. I do not want to penalize the teams who helped us raise the 500,000 just the others. Also I would be willing to donate the money saved from these away games to the Bulls to help make up the missing 500,000 would anyone else like to join me in this.

raisemeup wrote:

portugalbull wrote: What I would like to know is what the RFL are doing with the withheld monies? Are they extra profit to them? or Are they spread to the other SL clubs ? or what ? Sorry but my opinion Mr Wood is as thick as and I don`t expect he would answer the question even if some journalist asked him straight.

What I don't understand is the legality of withholding 50% of a sum of money, given by a seperate organisation (SKY corporation) for the express use of all Clubs in the Super League, based on a contractual arrangement that saw these clubs relinquish any fee for a game televised by SKY. If all figures are accurately reported this amount will be £50k per month not £100k. In law surely is it either Blackmail or extortion in it's worst sense of course? Ie A person or an organisation is coerced by officials to accept this as a penalty or they would not be allowed a licence to survive? Surely the SKY production should be a little upset to be even seen as a party, by association , to this situation?.

LIBEL

Get Mrs R on she speaks more sense and is a bit of alright.

cutoutthebull wrote:
Seeing as the RFL and Super League have decided to deduct the £500,000 from the money due from Sky have they thought of giving this back to the people who were conned out of the £500,000 by the former owners. Why are they penalizing these supporters again. Recently Mr. Sutcliffe said he had seen the list of which way the SL teams voted, could he please advise us of which teams voted to deduct this money because I for one do not wish to visit their grounds and give them any more of my money, which I have done for over 40 years. I do not want to penalize the teams who helped us raise the 500,000 just the others. Also I would be willing to donate the money saved from these away games to the Bulls to help make up the missing 500,000 would anyone else like to join me in this.

NO ,

I see Helga has a new username, Lets hope you do boycott away grounds you misery, Have you sent any money the way of Salford yet or is it just the bulls everyone should bail out ?
What a complete idiot this guy is but then again you all know that as his crusade seems to be attracting NO interest whatsoever.

cutoutthebull wrote:
Seeing as the RFL and Super League have decided to deduct the £500,000 from the money due from Sky have they thought of giving this back to the people who were conned out of the £500,000 by the former owners. Why are they penalizing these supporters again. Recently Mr. Sutcliffe said he had seen the list of which way the SL teams voted, could he please advise us of which teams voted to deduct this money because I for one do not wish to visit their grounds and give them any more of my money, which I have done for over 40 years. I do not want to penalize the teams who helped us raise the 500,000 just the others. Also I would be willing to donate the money saved from these away games to the Bulls to help make up the missing 500,000 would anyone else like to join me in this.

NO ,

I see Helga has a new username, Lets hope you do boycott away grounds you misery, Have you sent any money the way of Salford yet or is it just the bulls everyone should bail out ?
What a complete idiot this guy is but then again you all know that as his crusade seems to be attracting NO interest whatsoever.

Pains me to say it but is there a Maurice Lindsay out there who could cut a deal - and things weren't too bad commercially and profile wise when Messrs Oxley & Howes etc were at the helm!

ifallwerelikemumby wrote:

cutoutthebull wrote:
Seeing as the RFL and Super League have decided to deduct the £500,000 from the money due from Sky have they thought of giving this back to the people who were conned out of the £500,000 by the former owners. Why are they penalizing these supporters again. Recently Mr. Sutcliffe said he had seen the list of which way the SL teams voted, could he please advise us of which teams voted to deduct this money because I for one do not wish to visit their grounds and give them any more of my money, which I have done for over 40 years. I do not want to penalize the teams who helped us raise the 500,000 just the others. Also I would be willing to donate the money saved from these away games to the Bulls to help make up the missing 500,000 would anyone else like to join me in this.

NO ,

I see Helga has a new username, Lets hope you do boycott away grounds you misery, Have you sent any money the way of Salford yet or is it just the bulls everyone should bail out ?
What a complete idiot this guy is but then again you all know that as his crusade seems to be attracting NO interest whatsoever.

See the voices are still coming through ....who knows one day they may say something interesting or intelligent.!

-HCK3R- wrote:

ifallwerelikemumby wrote:

cutoutthebull wrote:
Seeing as the RFL and Super League have decided to deduct the £500,000 from the money due from Sky have they thought of giving this back to the people who were conned out of the £500,000 by the former owners. Why are they penalizing these supporters again. Recently Mr. Sutcliffe said he had seen the list of which way the SL teams voted, could he please advise us of which teams voted to deduct this money because I for one do not wish to visit their grounds and give them any more of my money, which I have done for over 40 years. I do not want to penalize the teams who helped us raise the 500,000 just the others. Also I would be willing to donate the money saved from these away games to the Bulls to help make up the missing 500,000 would anyone else like to join me in this.

NO ,

I see Helga has a new username, Lets hope you do boycott away grounds you misery, Have you sent any money the way of Salford yet or is it just the bulls everyone should bail out ?
What a complete idiot this guy is but then again you all know that as his crusade seems to be attracting NO interest whatsoever.

See the voices are still coming through ....who knows one day they may say something interesting or intelligent.!

He`s a Cretin
A Person that is: brainless, stupid, child-like, and full of pointless information

Helga will you marry me and we'll run away to Fernandos - no likie no lighty!

Helga is mine leave off :-()

If Helga's anything like Israel Folau, when she sees my pad backing on to Ilkley Moor and my Aston Martin on the very long drive, it will be good night Mumby you're time is up.
PS feel free to watch us in Bettys should you be passing - aaaaarhh can smell the fat rascals from Keighley!

strange chap

That's what makes us Bulls supporters such a broad church Mumby - look beyond your limited horizons!

Glad Mr S has given up.

Not content with the ground going into the RFL hands to purely keep it out of the reach of the considerable creditors in the insolvency,the Bulls then conn their supporters with an appeal that sees the £400k target rerached only for the appeal to stop and the slide to administration.

Not before some unascrupulous ones had repaid their pound of loaned flesh from the pledge money leaving little for the ongoing needs.

So then the RFL come in with another £400k of advances from future sky dues (when the very ongoing participation was severely threatened).

And 2 months in from picking up a £2.7 million build Coral Stand and Super League member for just !50k down and another £100k in 3 years the Bulls new owners and advocate are crying about funds witheld.

The creditors still have some say in all this thankfully.

I am very pleased that past indiscretions and unlawfull behaviour are to be looked at.

And am al;so pleased that OK is getting on with the streamlining and pay according to the amount of cloth at his disposal.
And generating a bit of feel good (or better than before at least)factor.

Its not over till the fat lady sings.
Cue Sheffield Bully Boy to take the plaudits

alfucham wrote:
Glad Mr S has given up.

Not content with the ground going into the RFL hands to purely keep it out of the reach of the considerable creditors in the insolvency,the Bulls then conn their supporters with an appeal that sees the £400k target rerached only for the appeal to stop and the slide to administration.

Not before some unascrupulous ones had repaid their pound of loaned flesh from the pledge money leaving little for the ongoing needs.

So then the RFL come in with another £400k of advances from future sky dues (when the very ongoing participation was severely threatened).

And 2 months in from picking up a £2.7 million build Coral Stand and Super League member for just !50k down and another £100k in 3 years the Bulls new owners and advocate are crying about funds witheld.

The creditors still have some say in all this thankfully.

I am very pleased that past indiscretions and unlawfull behaviour are to be looked at.

And am al;so pleased that OK is getting on with the streamlining and pay according to the amount of cloth at his disposal.
And generating a bit of feel good (or better than before at least)factor.

Its not over till the fat lady sings.
Cue Sheffield Bully Boy to take the plaudits

Cretin! Are you hearing voices too? Maybe it's the fat lady.

raisemeup wrote:

portugalbull wrote:
What I would like to know is what the RFL are doing with the withheld monies? Are they extra profit to them? or Are they spread to the other SL clubs ? or what ? Sorry but my opinion Mr Wood is as thick as and I don`t expect he would answer the question even if some journalist asked him straight.

What I don't understand is the legality of withholding 50% of a sum of money, given by a seperate organisation (SKY corporation) for the express use of all Clubs in the Super League, based on a contractual arrangement that saw these clubs relinquish any fee for a game televised by SKY. If all figures are accurately reported this amount will be £50k per month not £100k.

In law surely is it either Blackmail or extortion in it's worst sense of course?

Ie A person or an organisation is
coerced by officials to accept this as a penalty or they would not be allowed a licence to survive?

Surely the SKY production should be a little upset to be even seen as a party, by association , to this situation?.

The money is paid to the RFL who own all the rights to super league. The RFL then distributes this amongst it franchised clubs.

bullybullman wrote:

raisemeup wrote:

portugalbull wrote:
What I would like to know is what the RFL are doing with the withheld monies? Are they extra profit to them? or Are they spread to the other SL clubs ? or what ? Sorry but my opinion Mr Wood is as thick as and I don`t expect he would answer the question even if some journalist asked him straight.

What I don't understand is the legality of withholding 50% of a sum of money, given by a seperate organisation (SKY corporation) for the express use of all Clubs in the Super League, based on a contractual arrangement that saw these clubs relinquish any fee for a game televised by SKY. If all figures are accurately reported this amount will be £50k per month not £100k.

In law surely is it either Blackmail or extortion in it's worst sense of course?

Ie A person or an organisation is
coerced by officials to accept this as a penalty or they would not be allowed a licence to survive?

Surely the SKY production should be a little upset to be even seen as a party, by association , to this situation?.

The money is paid to the RFL who own all the rights to super league. The RFL then distributes this amongst it franchised clubs.

Nearly right

Super League Europe receive the Sky monies and distriute accordingly

SLE is made up of all the member clubs, it was they who voted what should hapen to our share that is being withheld, surprisingly.... they voted to distribute to themselves.......

Meningascoming,
Don't think the term "broad church" and the sharkbulls is very apt.
I don't think the owners or some of the sponsors do church.
Just sayin' like.

Shelf Rhino - bless you my son - don't care whether you are of the faith or not as long as you are cash rich and can shore up the bulls - I mean the Cohen brothers have been doing it at Headingley for years - in nominee patre et filius spiritus sanctus !

Sheffieldbull wrote:

alfucham wrote: Glad Mr S has given up. Not content with the ground going into the RFL hands to purely keep it out of the reach of the considerable creditors in the insolvency,the Bulls then conn their supporters with an appeal that sees the £400k target rerached only for the appeal to stop and the slide to administration. Not before some unascrupulous ones had repaid their pound of loaned flesh from the pledge money leaving little for the ongoing needs. So then the RFL come in with another £400k of advances from future sky dues (when the very ongoing participation was severely threatened). And 2 months in from picking up a £2.7 million build Coral Stand and Super League member for just !50k down and another £100k in 3 years the Bulls new owners and advocate are crying about funds witheld. The creditors still have some say in all this thankfully. I am very pleased that past indiscretions and unlawfull behaviour are to be looked at. And am al;so pleased that OK is getting on with the streamlining and pay according to the amount of cloth at his disposal. And generating a bit of feel good (or better than before at least)factor. Its not over till the fat lady sings. Cue Sheffield Bully Boy to take the plaudits

Cretin! Are you hearing voices too? Maybe it's the fat lady.

right on cue.
reel the coffin dodger in