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Perfect preparation for Bradford Bulls new boy Evans as he mixes it with the best (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Perfect preparation for Bradford Bulls new boy Ben Evans as he mixes it with the best
7:40am Wednesday 7th November 2012 in Bulls
By Ross Heppenstall, Bradford Bulls Reporter
Ben Evans is a good prospect but still has a lot to learn, says Francis Cummins
Bulls coach Francis Cummins believes Ben Evans will benefit from crossing swords with England and France’s finest during the autumn internationals.
Warrington prop Evans, 20, played in both Wales’ recent outings but has yet to make his Super League debut.
That will change next season when he will look to establish himself as a regular in the Bulls’ pack after agreeing a one-year loan deal.
His recent international exertions for Iestyn Harris’s side saw him lock horns with the likes of Adrian Morley, Gareth Hock, Gareth Ellis, Remi Casty and Olivier Elima.
Cummins – who is aiming to sign at least one more prop – said: “Those games for Wales will prove to be a great experience for Ben and he’s a good prospect.
"He’s not the finished article and, as things stand, he’s not going to be our front-line prop. But he is going to bolster the squad and he will get the opportunity to play in Super League.
“How much he plays will be determined by how well he trains in the off-season and how he develops.
“But he can definitely improve our club and by spending time here we can improve him as a player.”
Evans is currently enjoying an end-of-season break following his Wales commitments and will join up with the rest of the Bulls squad next week.
Luke Gale’s ankle injury, meanwhile, is not thought to be as serious as the ligament damage which sidelined him for two months last season.
Comments(25)
Steampig
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8:24am Wed 7 Nov 12
BlackpoolBull
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8:30am Wed 7 Nov 12
Mumby was the best
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8:37am Wed 7 Nov 12
ifallwerelikemumby
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10:05am Wed 7 Nov 12
Solomon Grundy
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11:15am Wed 7 Nov 12
raisemeup
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12:37pm Wed 7 Nov 12
And young Evans cannot be unproven until he has some experience to prove himself.
He has to start somewhere, I remember a young player called Hanley, who started playing for us when he was 17.
Many of our supporters probably said the same about him at the time?
BlackpoolBull
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12:57pm Wed 7 Nov 12
ifallwerelikemumby wrote:And what exactly is that? To provide back up to our older, more experienced props? To make some impact from the interchange? To learn from the pros around him and develop as a player? Maybe YOU could do a better job? Get yourself to Tong mate, they could use an eight stone keyboard warrior with a skin condition;-) Feels like feeding time at the troll enclosure to me! Your move numb nuts.
Too much to ask from the young lad.
Steam Pigs
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1:03pm Wed 7 Nov 12
Mumby was the best
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1:06pm Wed 7 Nov 12
BlackpoolBull wrote:I see you spotted the TROLL
ifallwerelikemumby wrote:And what exactly is that? To provide back up to our older, more experienced props? To make some impact from the interchange? To learn from the pros around him and develop as a player? Maybe YOU could do a better job? Get yourself to Tong mate, they could use an eight stone keyboard warrior with a skin condition;-) Feels like feeding time at the troll enclosure to me! Your move numb nuts.
Too much to ask from the young lad.
Tricky Dicky
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1:57pm Wed 7 Nov 12
Mumby was the best
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2:04pm Wed 7 Nov 12
Tricky Dicky wrote:I agree with you in part but what is the alternative?
I, personally, do not believe that having to suffer the tag of "whipping boys" for a while will make you stronger in the future and we should be asked to see it as a rites of passage. I make reference, in analogy, to the current end-of-season tri-nations tournament. Is it good for Wales and France to be comprehensively thumped by England and is the lack of intensity doing England any good, short term or long term? And so to the Bulls, will having a young side, learning their trade, but, consequently and inevitably, suffering defeats be any good for their morale and that of the fans, regardless of whether we can say "it is a path that must be trodden to reach nirvana". Promoting youth from within when it is good and ready is laudable but buying it in could turn out to be laughable.
Also I don`t think we will be the only whipping boys Castleford, Hull KR & Salford at least, don`t look too strong.
ifallwerelikemumby
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2:33pm Wed 7 Nov 12
barbarian mike
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3:33pm Wed 7 Nov 12
Mumby was the best wrote:Why are we automatically going to be beaten week in week out. Wakey managed ok a few yrs back when they had to loan players and scrape around.We don't have to expect the world, but there are other teams around us, probably 5 at minimum who we can compete with this season. The core of the squad is decent enough even if small and we have to trust that FC has the coaching abilities to get the best out of the players. The spirit and attitude is already there in the core, if coached well, and a couple of more signings, and we may just be surprised!
Tricky Dicky wrote:I agree with you in part but what is the alternative?
I, personally, do not believe that having to suffer the tag of "whipping boys" for a while will make you stronger in the future and we should be asked to see it as a rites of passage. I make reference, in analogy, to the current end-of-season tri-nations tournament. Is it good for Wales and France to be comprehensively thumped by England and is the lack of intensity doing England any good, short term or long term? And so to the Bulls, will having a young side, learning their trade, but, consequently and inevitably, suffering defeats be any good for their morale and that of the fans, regardless of whether we can say "it is a path that must be trodden to reach nirvana". Promoting youth from within when it is good and ready is laudable but buying it in could turn out to be laughable.
Also I don`t think we will be the only whipping boys Castleford, Hull KR & Salford at least, don`t look too strong.
barbarian mike
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3:34pm Wed 7 Nov 12
Mumby was the best wrote:Why are we automatically going to be beaten week in week out. Wakey managed ok a few yrs back when they had to loan players and scrape around.We don't have to expect the world, but there are other teams around us, probably 5 at minimum who we can compete with this season. The core of the squad is decent enough even if small and we have to trust that FC has the coaching abilities to get the best out of the players. The spirit and attitude is already there in the core, if coached well, and a couple of more signings, and we may just be surprised!
Tricky Dicky wrote:I agree with you in part but what is the alternative?
I, personally, do not believe that having to suffer the tag of "whipping boys" for a while will make you stronger in the future and we should be asked to see it as a rites of passage. I make reference, in analogy, to the current end-of-season tri-nations tournament. Is it good for Wales and France to be comprehensively thumped by England and is the lack of intensity doing England any good, short term or long term? And so to the Bulls, will having a young side, learning their trade, but, consequently and inevitably, suffering defeats be any good for their morale and that of the fans, regardless of whether we can say "it is a path that must be trodden to reach nirvana". Promoting youth from within when it is good and ready is laudable but buying it in could turn out to be laughable.
Also I don`t think we will be the only whipping boys Castleford, Hull KR & Salford at least, don`t look too strong.
raisemeup
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3:41pm Wed 7 Nov 12
Remember we came from a position of what people said was totally unsustainable.
At least now we are in with a chance, and we still have some fantastic Players to call on.
We may be starting from the bottom. but at the start of every season so are all the other clubs. Why speculate on a future that's the same for everyone, ie unpredictable and always uncertain!
franklyn
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3:53pm Wed 7 Nov 12
BlackpoolBull wrote:see your not happy blackpoolbull . just can't understand why when someones opinion differs to yours you resort to this playground bully tackticks. and you call him a troll. ha ha.
ifallwerelikemumby wrote: Too much to ask from the young lad.And what exactly is that? To provide back up to our older, more experienced props? To make some impact from the interchange? To learn from the pros around him and develop as a player? Maybe YOU could do a better job? Get yourself to Tong mate, they could use an eight stone keyboard warrior with a skin condition;-) Feels like feeding time at the troll enclosure to me! Your move numb nuts.
But to be serious, we all know its going to be hard this coming season. FC can only sign who we can afford and strengthen the squad where possible. This mean all the players retained are going to have to pull thier weight. there's no room for slackness this term and the likes of scruton.langley. walker and others will all be on thier last chance to prove they can still do a job for the bulls.
Now i don't know FC personally, but by what i've heard he wont stand dead wood in the squad and i suspect he will take this first season to sort out the wheat ffrom the chaff.
good luck to all the new players he signs. i suppose they will have to put up with a lot of crap from some on here.
Mumby was the best
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3:54pm Wed 7 Nov 12
ifallwerelikemumby wrote:Obviously you were there when he told him !!!!!!!
8 stone keyboard warrior ? Deary me today and I thought schools had gone back. The so called starting props in your eyes are very injury prone so this lad will end up a starter before long which is what Tony Smith told him.
What a kn0bhead.
UNBULLIEVABLE
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5:06pm Wed 7 Nov 12
Mumby was the best wrote:I am gutted this post has been left! , I called one of the many doubters on here last week a Muppet and it was removed in less than an hour, BTW I recall as will many a more recent young man making HIS debut at around 18yrs old, a certain Mr S Burgess - seems to be doing ok plying his trade at the pinnacle of the sport! , let the lad have a run out before you doubters condemn him and US!!
ifallwerelikemumby wrote:Obviously you were there when he told him !!!!!!!
8 stone keyboard warrior ? Deary me today and I thought schools had gone back. The so called starting props in your eyes are very injury prone so this lad will end up a starter before long which is what Tony Smith told him.
What a kn0bhead.
BlackpoolBull
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6:29pm Wed 7 Nov 12
ld i may have shown a little more respect to the poster. As it happens props tend to get injured quite a bit so its inevitable he will get some game time. Getting behind the lad is the key, not writing him off before the first set off six is completed.
Mumby was the best
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6:47pm Wed 7 Nov 12
BlackpoolBull wrote:Not to worry you got his identity spot on, the name he now uses is the one I use on the RLFANS.COM forum, a forum from which he has been banned.
To be frank if i thought for one second that Ifallwerelikemumby was anyone other than tbc or scandinavianslovechi
ld i may have shown a little more respect to the poster. As it happens props tend to get injured quite a bit so its inevitable he will get some game time. Getting behind the lad is the key, not writing him off before the first set off six is completed.
You are right we have to get behind Evans, he is young and raw but according to some Wolves fans has great potential. He may not be the signing to everybodies taste, but remember because of what went on last year our hands were tied as to signing new players till OK officially took over, then the rest of SL had gained a march on us. Lets get behind FC he seems to be his own man and knows what we need. COYB
ifallwerelikemumby
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7:31pm Wed 7 Nov 12
Mumby was the best wrote:Not been banned from that website so wrong again, you are obviously getting me mixed up with someone who gives a fig .
BlackpoolBull wrote:Not to worry you got his identity spot on, the name he now uses is the one I use on the RLFANS.COM forum, a forum from which he has been banned.
To be frank if i thought for one second that Ifallwerelikemumby was anyone other than tbc or scandinavianslovechi
ld i may have shown a little more respect to the poster. As it happens props tend to get injured quite a bit so its inevitable he will get some game time. Getting behind the lad is the key, not writing him off before the first set off six is completed.
You are right we have to get behind Evans, he is young and raw but according to some Wolves fans has great potential. He may not be the signing to everybodies taste, but remember because of what went on last year our hands were tied as to signing new players till OK officially took over, then the rest of SL had gained a march on us. Lets get behind FC he seems to be his own man and knows what we need. COYB
THEMANOFSTEEL
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9:19pm Wed 7 Nov 12
Come on foster!!!!
Hope it's us
THEMANOFSTEEL
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10:45pm Wed 7 Nov 12
Jamie fosters latest tweet after my mrs tweeted him saying u will look good in a bulls shirt
ifallwerelikemumby
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12:12pm Thu 8 Nov 12

BlackpoolBull says...
8:20am Wed 7 Nov 12