Right attitude a must for Bradford Bulls coach Franny Cummins

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: WAGE LIMITS: Francis Cummins will not bend to unrealistic pay demands from players WAGE LIMITS: Francis Cummins will not bend to unrealistic pay demands from players

Francis Cummins insists every player in his new Bulls era will be there for the right reasons.

Cummins is rebuilding a leaner squad at Odsal in the wake of the administration that brought the club to their knees last season.

The former assistant coach is relishing his first stint at the helm and the challenge of restoring the Bulls to their past glories.

Cummins sees it as a long-term project and has made it clear that he will not bend to any unrealistic demands from players or their agents.

He said: “It’s all fresh and new now and we’ve got to manage the situation we are in.

“We are really dependent on the spirit and the team coming together. We won’t have a massive squad.

“We won’t be spending boat-loads of money. We’re not going to get into the same situation again and players have to understand that.

“I’ve been pretty honest when I speak to agents because I know what these players are worth to the club.

“It’s not the top players, it’s generally the middle band ones expecting more money.

“Unfortunately the game is where it’s at and the club is where it’s at.”

And Cummins stressed that nobody is going to get rich quick.

He added: “What we’re giving them here is the chance to be a professional athlete and represent Bradford Bulls. Grow together as players and a team and then they will be rewarded. It’s not just a case of rocking up and having a go.

“It’s going to be tough and they need to put their faith and trust in me.

“We have got a special chance here because we’ve got this goodwill behind us. The people here need to invest in their careers.”

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8:20am Fri 2 Nov 12

Steampig says...

i agree with the sentiment, but goodwill doesnt pay the bills, and goodwill in my experience only take you so far and nneeds to be reciprocated through reward. .that said i think that if the players are all aware of the situation when they sign on then at least their expectations are not going to be too high in terms of wages and bonus .I hope that the team spirit and togetherness will be enough to forge a winning team , time will tell.particularly given the small squad we will have to chose from.
i agree with the sentiment, but goodwill doesnt pay the bills, and goodwill in my experience only take you so far and nneeds to be reciprocated through reward. .that said i think that if the players are all aware of the situation when they sign on then at least their expectations are not going to be too high in terms of wages and bonus .I hope that the team spirit and togetherness will be enough to forge a winning team , time will tell.particularly given the small squad we will have to chose from. Steampig
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8:21am Fri 2 Nov 12

BlackpoolBull says...

Another fine example of the t n a filling up column inches with nothing. Quite the achievement really. Yawn.
Another fine example of the t n a filling up column inches with nothing. Quite the achievement really. Yawn. BlackpoolBull
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8:24am Fri 2 Nov 12

BlackpoolBull says...

That said, i agree with steam pig, im just looking for a little more movement on the recruitment front.
That said, i agree with steam pig, im just looking for a little more movement on the recruitment front. BlackpoolBull
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8:25am Fri 2 Nov 12

Solomon Grundy says...

On the one hand we are spending to the salary cap - but on the other we won't have any money and we won't have a full squad - this will not sell season tickets.

Dear Francis,
We will actually have 4 front row forwards won't we? You do intend to sign some?????

Yours,
Increasingly concerned we are not fully abreast of the needs for this competition, which is what crucified the club in the first place under the inadequate leaderships of Messrs Hood & McNamara.
On the one hand we are spending to the salary cap - but on the other we won't have any money and we won't have a full squad - this will not sell season tickets. Dear Francis, We will actually have 4 front row forwards won't we? You do intend to sign some????? Yours, Increasingly concerned we are not fully abreast of the needs for this competition, which is what crucified the club in the first place under the inadequate leaderships of Messrs Hood & McNamara. Solomon Grundy
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8:41am Fri 2 Nov 12

Steam Pigs says...

Surely if the great uwashed of Bradford know the Bulls need props then surely an experienced player, coach and manger will know this......

Gee, nowt like stating th bleeding obvious is there..... ad nauseum!

The season is still going for some players and the others could well be still on holiday, only those teams outside the top 8 will have started pre-season. This time last year we signed a chap with the nickname Nas..... he didn't turn out too bad did he?
Surely if the great uwashed of Bradford know the Bulls need props then surely an experienced player, coach and manger will know this...... Gee, nowt like stating th bleeding obvious is there..... ad nauseum! The season is still going for some players and the others could well be still on holiday, only those teams outside the top 8 will have started pre-season. This time last year we signed a chap with the nickname Nas..... he didn't turn out too bad did he? Steam Pigs
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8:59am Fri 2 Nov 12

Archie's Ghost says...

Steam Pigs wrote:
Surely if the great uwashed of Bradford know the Bulls need props then surely an experienced player, coach and manger will know this......

Gee, nowt like stating th bleeding obvious is there..... ad nauseum!

The season is still going for some players and the others could well be still on holiday, only those teams outside the top 8 will have started pre-season. This time last year we signed a chap with the nickname Nas..... he didn't turn out too bad did he?
Or we could just blame Chis Caisley like you and the rest of the Steve MacNamara faithful have spent the last 6 years doing.

Solomon's point is correct. We don't have a quota spot for a player like Nas and at the time we signed him we had 4 or 5 props plus Langley. Right now we have 2.

Just to make it crystal clear; 2 props in the first week of pre-season is a CRISIS.

One loan signing? At a time when most players are signed up for next year and FC is talking about a lean squad.

Very, very worried!!
[quote][p][bold]Steam Pigs[/bold] wrote: Surely if the great uwashed of Bradford know the Bulls need props then surely an experienced player, coach and manger will know this...... Gee, nowt like stating th bleeding obvious is there..... ad nauseum! The season is still going for some players and the others could well be still on holiday, only those teams outside the top 8 will have started pre-season. This time last year we signed a chap with the nickname Nas..... he didn't turn out too bad did he?[/p][/quote]Or we could just blame Chis Caisley like you and the rest of the Steve MacNamara faithful have spent the last 6 years doing. Solomon's point is correct. We don't have a quota spot for a player like Nas and at the time we signed him we had 4 or 5 props plus Langley. Right now we have 2. Just to make it crystal clear; 2 props in the first week of pre-season is a CRISIS. One loan signing? At a time when most players are signed up for next year and FC is talking about a lean squad. Very, very worried!! Archie's Ghost
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9:03am Fri 2 Nov 12

Mumby was the best says...

All these non stories in the T&A are frustrating but we have to be patient and bide our time. FC at least seems to be grounded and realistic about the size of the squad and the players he wants. We do need front row forwards but like has been pointed out he knows we do.
Supposed to be a big announcement soon re a new sponsor, so maybe then will be the time when signings are announced, fingers crossed.
All these non stories in the T&A are frustrating but we have to be patient and bide our time. FC at least seems to be grounded and realistic about the size of the squad and the players he wants. We do need front row forwards but like has been pointed out he knows we do. Supposed to be a big announcement soon re a new sponsor, so maybe then will be the time when signings are announced, fingers crossed. Mumby was the best
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9:09am Fri 2 Nov 12

Old Dave says...

I thought there was going to be some sort of era defining announcement today? was that a twitter rumour, or was Fran stating the obvious in this article it?

And its all gone quiet on Jamie Foster. Is this article a dig at him and other players who've been offered a year here as opposed to a year as a bit part player at a big club, but have knocked us back?

If a player is working full time as a professional athlete, the financial reward should enable them to put fuel in their car and food in the mouths of their families. How can playing country footy in Aus and working full time be a better option than playing for us if OK and Gerry are going to make a go of this?
I thought there was going to be some sort of era defining announcement today? was that a twitter rumour, or was Fran stating the obvious in this article it? And its all gone quiet on Jamie Foster. Is this article a dig at him and other players who've been offered a year here as opposed to a year as a bit part player at a big club, but have knocked us back? If a player is working full time as a professional athlete, the financial reward should enable them to put fuel in their car and food in the mouths of their families. How can playing country footy in Aus and working full time be a better option than playing for us if OK and Gerry are going to make a go of this? Old Dave
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9:21am Fri 2 Nov 12

Mumby was the best says...

Old Dave wrote:
I thought there was going to be some sort of era defining announcement today? was that a twitter rumour, or was Fran stating the obvious in this article it?

And its all gone quiet on Jamie Foster. Is this article a dig at him and other players who've been offered a year here as opposed to a year as a bit part player at a big club, but have knocked us back?

If a player is working full time as a professional athlete, the financial reward should enable them to put fuel in their car and food in the mouths of their families. How can playing country footy in Aus and working full time be a better option than playing for us if OK and Gerry are going to make a go of this?
You are right but maybe the club is reluctant to go down the road of signing mediocre players for big wages, which was what brought the club to it`s knees.
Sykes & Platt are two who spring to mind if rumours about their wages are correct and both on long term contracts.
[quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: I thought there was going to be some sort of era defining announcement today? was that a twitter rumour, or was Fran stating the obvious in this article it? And its all gone quiet on Jamie Foster. Is this article a dig at him and other players who've been offered a year here as opposed to a year as a bit part player at a big club, but have knocked us back? If a player is working full time as a professional athlete, the financial reward should enable them to put fuel in their car and food in the mouths of their families. How can playing country footy in Aus and working full time be a better option than playing for us if OK and Gerry are going to make a go of this?[/p][/quote]You are right but maybe the club is reluctant to go down the road of signing mediocre players for big wages, which was what brought the club to it`s knees. Sykes & Platt are two who spring to mind if rumours about their wages are correct and both on long term contracts. Mumby was the best
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9:40am Fri 2 Nov 12

Steam Pigs says...

Archie's Ghost wrote:
Steam Pigs wrote:
Surely if the great uwashed of Bradford know the Bulls need props then surely an experienced player, coach and manger will know this......

Gee, nowt like stating th bleeding obvious is there..... ad nauseum!

The season is still going for some players and the others could well be still on holiday, only those teams outside the top 8 will have started pre-season. This time last year we signed a chap with the nickname Nas..... he didn't turn out too bad did he?
Or we could just blame Chis Caisley like you and the rest of the Steve MacNamara faithful have spent the last 6 years doing.

Solomon's point is correct. We don't have a quota spot for a player like Nas and at the time we signed him we had 4 or 5 props plus Langley. Right now we have 2.

Just to make it crystal clear; 2 props in the first week of pre-season is a CRISIS.

One loan signing? At a time when most players are signed up for next year and FC is talking about a lean squad.

Very, very worried!!
Caisley Macca? wtf....

past, history, gone along with Hood and the rest of them - thank f..

Onwards and upwards

patience (not the card game neither)
[quote][p][bold]Archie's Ghost[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steam Pigs[/bold] wrote: Surely if the great uwashed of Bradford know the Bulls need props then surely an experienced player, coach and manger will know this...... Gee, nowt like stating th bleeding obvious is there..... ad nauseum! The season is still going for some players and the others could well be still on holiday, only those teams outside the top 8 will have started pre-season. This time last year we signed a chap with the nickname Nas..... he didn't turn out too bad did he?[/p][/quote]Or we could just blame Chis Caisley like you and the rest of the Steve MacNamara faithful have spent the last 6 years doing. Solomon's point is correct. We don't have a quota spot for a player like Nas and at the time we signed him we had 4 or 5 props plus Langley. Right now we have 2. Just to make it crystal clear; 2 props in the first week of pre-season is a CRISIS. One loan signing? At a time when most players are signed up for next year and FC is talking about a lean squad. Very, very worried!![/p][/quote]Caisley Macca? wtf.... past, history, gone along with Hood and the rest of them - thank f.. Onwards and upwards patience (not the card game neither) Steam Pigs
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9:49am Fri 2 Nov 12

liverpoolbull says...

Re jaimie foster , went to a charity event in north Wales last weekend , also attended by mr McManus of St. Helens , the Foster season loan is a done deal , according to the man himself
Re jaimie foster , went to a charity event in north Wales last weekend , also attended by mr McManus of St. Helens , the Foster season loan is a done deal , according to the man himself liverpoolbull
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10:15am Fri 2 Nov 12

BlackpoolBull says...

liverpoolbull wrote:
Re jaimie foster , went to a charity event in north Wales last weekend , also attended by mr McManus of St. Helens , the Foster season loan is a done deal , according to the man himself
This is def good news if true, more versatile and better all round than poor old ainscough imo. Also, anyone else noticed how pleasant it is to have actual discussion on here rather than thinly veiled racism from the keyboard warriors?
[quote][p][bold]liverpoolbull[/bold] wrote: Re jaimie foster , went to a charity event in north Wales last weekend , also attended by mr McManus of St. Helens , the Foster season loan is a done deal , according to the man himself[/p][/quote]This is def good news if true, more versatile and better all round than poor old ainscough imo. Also, anyone else noticed how pleasant it is to have actual discussion on here rather than thinly veiled racism from the keyboard warriors? BlackpoolBull
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10:33am Fri 2 Nov 12

TodBull says...

BlackpoolBull wrote:
liverpoolbull wrote:
Re jaimie foster , went to a charity event in north Wales last weekend , also attended by mr McManus of St. Helens , the Foster season loan is a done deal , according to the man himself
This is def good news if true, more versatile and better all round than poor old ainscough imo. Also, anyone else noticed how pleasant it is to have actual discussion on here rather than thinly veiled racism from the keyboard warriors?
It is very pleasant... but please don't tempt fate.
[quote][p][bold]BlackpoolBull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]liverpoolbull[/bold] wrote: Re jaimie foster , went to a charity event in north Wales last weekend , also attended by mr McManus of St. Helens , the Foster season loan is a done deal , according to the man himself[/p][/quote]This is def good news if true, more versatile and better all round than poor old ainscough imo. Also, anyone else noticed how pleasant it is to have actual discussion on here rather than thinly veiled racism from the keyboard warriors?[/p][/quote]It is very pleasant... but please don't tempt fate. TodBull
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11:02am Fri 2 Nov 12

Prycey says...

I got the impression that FC didn’t really want Ainsky that much and was happy to let him go if he could get a better winger. Hope the previous poster is correct about Foster as this would make sense in letting Ainsky go. Also, nobody else was interested in paying him any more than we offered. That tells us something about what people see in the lad. It is still a shame though as he always gave 100%.
I got the impression that FC didn’t really want Ainsky that much and was happy to let him go if he could get a better winger. Hope the previous poster is correct about Foster as this would make sense in letting Ainsky go. Also, nobody else was interested in paying him any more than we offered. That tells us something about what people see in the lad. It is still a shame though as he always gave 100%. Prycey
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11:04am Fri 2 Nov 12

Videoref says...

Well Jason Netherton is free now. Should be worth 2 Brown loaves and a fish
Well Jason Netherton is free now. Should be worth 2 Brown loaves and a fish Videoref
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11:33am Fri 2 Nov 12

Schoey 2 says...

According to The Sun newspaper, new sponsor deal worth £1,000,000 due to be announced; and Bulls poss looking to sign Martin Gleason????????

Please can we have some props!!!
According to The Sun newspaper, new sponsor deal worth £1,000,000 due to be announced; and Bulls poss looking to sign Martin Gleason???????? Please can we have some props!!! Schoey 2
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11:59am Fri 2 Nov 12

bullybullman says...

Greenwoods & JCT big new 3 year deal on its way.
Greenwoods & JCT big new 3 year deal on its way. bullybullman
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12:09pm Fri 2 Nov 12

AdeyG'man says...

Schoey 2 wrote:
According to The Sun newspaper, new sponsor deal worth £1,000,000 due to be announced; and Bulls poss looking to sign Martin Gleason????????

Please can we have some props!!!
No, Martin Gleeson will end up at Leeds...we don't need him anyway!
[quote][p][bold]Schoey 2[/bold] wrote: According to The Sun newspaper, new sponsor deal worth £1,000,000 due to be announced; and Bulls poss looking to sign Martin Gleason???????? Please can we have some props!!![/p][/quote]No, Martin Gleeson will end up at Leeds...we don't need him anyway! AdeyG'man
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12:13pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Schoey 2 says...

Although we will have a much smaller squad this year, I think recruitment re three quarters - if Foster signs - is pretty much complete in that area. We have plenty of back rowers too - hope Donno signs up also - would like some noises on props - heard we is taking Ben Evans on loan from Wire - and thats all so far.
Although we will have a much smaller squad this year, I think recruitment re three quarters - if Foster signs - is pretty much complete in that area. We have plenty of back rowers too - hope Donno signs up also - would like some noises on props - heard we is taking Ben Evans on loan from Wire - and thats all so far. Schoey 2
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12:32pm Fri 2 Nov 12

bartsbull says...

Please give this man a chance we do not want over paid players

FC knows who and where the team needs to be strengthened

Dont forget we are behind the eight ball since we came out of admin things will take longer

I want players in theBulls shirt who want to be here not just for the money look at the playerswho have resigned but i o hope dono is the next
Please give this man a chance we do not want over paid players FC knows who and where the team needs to be strengthened Dont forget we are behind the eight ball since we came out of admin things will take longer I want players in theBulls shirt who want to be here not just for the money look at the playerswho have resigned but i o hope dono is the next bartsbull
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12:40pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Bone_idle18 says...

Ha ha! Gleeson, I bet he's put on the weight of a prop by now anyway, could slot him in at no10!

Netherton would be a decent option, a decent workhorse and pretty tough.
Ha ha! Gleeson, I bet he's put on the weight of a prop by now anyway, could slot him in at no10! Netherton would be a decent option, a decent workhorse and pretty tough. Bone_idle18
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1:20pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Steampig says...

does any body know what the score is with Purtell? i hope he will be cleared fit to play as he was doing a great job , but if he isnt wouldnt that release a quota spot ? maybe not knowing yet is a factor in the recruitment position ?
re Gleason, decent player but been out of the game a while and seems to attract trouble like s$1t attracts flies. alsonot sure where he would fit in with the newe wage structure.
does any body know what the score is with Purtell? i hope he will be cleared fit to play as he was doing a great job , but if he isnt wouldnt that release a quota spot ? maybe not knowing yet is a factor in the recruitment position ? re Gleason, decent player but been out of the game a while and seems to attract trouble like s$1t attracts flies. alsonot sure where he would fit in with the newe wage structure. Steampig
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1:22pm Fri 2 Nov 12

portugalbull says...

None story. T&A behind others again if stories on Foster / Sponsors correct. Can they confirm these ? Also speak to FC and get his views on props where fans know we are light.
None story. T&A behind others again if stories on Foster / Sponsors correct. Can they confirm these ? Also speak to FC and get his views on props where fans know we are light. portugalbull
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1:25pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Videoref says...

Steampig wrote:
does any body know what the score is with Purtell? i hope he will be cleared fit to play as he was doing a great job , but if he isnt wouldnt that release a quota spot ? maybe not knowing yet is a factor in the recruitment position ?
re Gleason, decent player but been out of the game a while and seems to attract trouble like s$1t attracts flies. alsonot sure where he would fit in with the newe wage structure.
Supposed to be having further tests this month and a specialist verdict in December if my memory serve me correctly
[quote][p][bold]Steampig[/bold] wrote: does any body know what the score is with Purtell? i hope he will be cleared fit to play as he was doing a great job , but if he isnt wouldnt that release a quota spot ? maybe not knowing yet is a factor in the recruitment position ? re Gleason, decent player but been out of the game a while and seems to attract trouble like s$1t attracts flies. alsonot sure where he would fit in with the newe wage structure.[/p][/quote]Supposed to be having further tests this month and a specialist verdict in December if my memory serve me correctly Videoref
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1:38pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Steampig says...

Videoref wrote:
Steampig wrote:
does any body know what the score is with Purtell? i hope he will be cleared fit to play as he was doing a great job , but if he isnt wouldnt that release a quota spot ? maybe not knowing yet is a factor in the recruitment position ?
re Gleason, decent player but been out of the game a while and seems to attract trouble like s$1t attracts flies. alsonot sure where he would fit in with the newe wage structure.
Supposed to be having further tests this month and a specialist verdict in December if my memory serve me correctly
Cheers
[quote][p][bold]Videoref[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steampig[/bold] wrote: does any body know what the score is with Purtell? i hope he will be cleared fit to play as he was doing a great job , but if he isnt wouldnt that release a quota spot ? maybe not knowing yet is a factor in the recruitment position ? re Gleason, decent player but been out of the game a while and seems to attract trouble like s$1t attracts flies. alsonot sure where he would fit in with the newe wage structure.[/p][/quote]Supposed to be having further tests this month and a specialist verdict in December if my memory serve me correctly[/p][/quote]Cheers Steampig
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1:47pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Bone_idle18 says...

Is the new sponsor actually the finalisation of the deal with the Uni/collage?
Is the new sponsor actually the finalisation of the deal with the Uni/collage? Bone_idle18
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3:12pm Fri 2 Nov 12

mdn says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Is the new sponsor actually the finalisation of the deal with the Uni/collage?
Nope the uni thing is a linkup without much money changing hands. The big announcement is the new main sponsor. Due sometime next week.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Is the new sponsor actually the finalisation of the deal with the Uni/collage?[/p][/quote]Nope the uni thing is a linkup without much money changing hands. The big announcement is the new main sponsor. Due sometime next week. mdn
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3:22pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Bone_idle18 says...

mdn wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Is the new sponsor actually the finalisation of the deal with the Uni/collage?
Nope the uni thing is a linkup without much money changing hands. The big announcement is the new main sponsor. Due sometime next week.
Sounds promising. Any rumours as to who it may be?
[quote][p][bold]mdn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: Is the new sponsor actually the finalisation of the deal with the Uni/collage?[/p][/quote]Nope the uni thing is a linkup without much money changing hands. The big announcement is the new main sponsor. Due sometime next week.[/p][/quote]Sounds promising. Any rumours as to who it may be? Bone_idle18
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4:29pm Fri 2 Nov 12

monkey belly says...

re jamie foster, he informed his st helens team mates on monday that he had signed for the bulls
re jamie foster, he informed his st helens team mates on monday that he had signed for the bulls monkey belly
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5:53pm Fri 2 Nov 12

mdn says...

monkey belly wrote:
re jamie foster, he informed his st helens team mates on monday that he had signed for the bulls
Loan deal or permanent?
[quote][p][bold]monkey belly[/bold] wrote: re jamie foster, he informed his st helens team mates on monday that he had signed for the bulls[/p][/quote]Loan deal or permanent? mdn
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6:12pm Fri 2 Nov 12

THEMANOFSTEEL says...

Regards to Jamie Foster on his Twitter account it says he will announce his decision next week so nothing is a done deal

Praying we get him tho!!
Regards to Jamie Foster on his Twitter account it says he will announce his decision next week so nothing is a done deal Praying we get him tho!! THEMANOFSTEEL
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6:27pm Fri 2 Nov 12

murphyslaw says...

I don't see this as a non story. There is plenty there if you read what Franny has to say. He's standing his ground and making a very valid point. Better not to sign at all than bow to demands we can't afford, likewise with existing players and staff, if you can't accept what we offer theres no room for negotiation as things stand. If only this had been the philosophy of others we have had in charge over the last 10 years?
I don't see this as a non story. There is plenty there if you read what Franny has to say. He's standing his ground and making a very valid point. Better not to sign at all than bow to demands we can't afford, likewise with existing players and staff, if you can't accept what we offer theres no room for negotiation as things stand. If only this had been the philosophy of others we have had in charge over the last 10 years? murphyslaw
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6:33pm Fri 2 Nov 12

vikksy says...

regardless of what happens I have my seat booked in the stand.
regardless of what happens I have my seat booked in the stand. vikksy
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9:40pm Fri 2 Nov 12

monkey belly says...

mdn sorry for delay.

was only told that he had signed for us no details of whether it was loan or permanent just 1 year deal.
mdn sorry for delay. was only told that he had signed for us no details of whether it was loan or permanent just 1 year deal. monkey belly
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10:28pm Fri 2 Nov 12

mdn says...

monkey belly wrote:
mdn sorry for delay.

was only told that he had signed for us no details of whether it was loan or permanent just 1 year deal.
1 yr sounds like a loan deal as we were offering 2yrs permanent.
[quote][p][bold]monkey belly[/bold] wrote: mdn sorry for delay. was only told that he had signed for us no details of whether it was loan or permanent just 1 year deal.[/p][/quote]1 yr sounds like a loan deal as we were offering 2yrs permanent. mdn
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8:55am Sun 4 Nov 12

oddshapedballs says...

once again in people ezxecting to know everything going on in the background. same sort of drivel posted last year and look what happened. the t & a cannot post news that hasnt been announced yet!?
once again in people ezxecting to know everything going on in the background. same sort of drivel posted last year and look what happened. the t & a cannot post news that hasnt been announced yet!? oddshapedballs
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8:32pm Tue 6 Nov 12

alfucham says...

murphyslaw wrote:
I don't see this as a non story. There is plenty there if you read what Franny has to say. He's standing his ground and making a very valid point. Better not to sign at all than bow to demands we can't afford, likewise with existing players and staff, if you can't accept what we offer theres no room for negotiation as things stand. If only this had been the philosophy of others we have had in charge over the last 10 years?
absolutely.

and the sky money would still be coming and the financial meltdown avoided.

see many selfish sorts care not about that only who can sign that makes for winners.

well my long experience of winners is that they exist irrelevant to the size of their pay packet,it is in the character and mindset to achieve that makes them winners.

FC makes all the right sounds there and appears to have a contemptuous disdain for greed and a intelligent grasp of economes.

Remember oh selfish sorts,many local people are struggling to put food on the table now because of the catastrophic mismanagement of the finances over 10 years.

Let them eat cake would be the selfish sorts attitude..
[quote][p][bold]murphyslaw[/bold] wrote: I don't see this as a non story. There is plenty there if you read what Franny has to say. He's standing his ground and making a very valid point. Better not to sign at all than bow to demands we can't afford, likewise with existing players and staff, if you can't accept what we offer theres no room for negotiation as things stand. If only this had been the philosophy of others we have had in charge over the last 10 years?[/p][/quote]absolutely. and the sky money would still be coming and the financial meltdown avoided. see many selfish sorts care not about that only who can sign that makes for winners. well my long experience of winners is that they exist irrelevant to the size of their pay packet,it is in the character and mindset to achieve that makes them winners. FC makes all the right sounds there and appears to have a contemptuous disdain for greed and a intelligent grasp of economes. Remember oh selfish sorts,many local people are struggling to put food on the table now because of the catastrophic mismanagement of the finances over 10 years. Let them eat cake would be the selfish sorts attitude.. alfucham
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