I said he Will win over Bantams fans and he is doing, says Parkinson (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Well, let me be the first to say I'm glad I didn't stick to my promise of not getting my ticket if we signed Will.

The level of performance from him this season has eclipsed anything he did last season and his ball retention, finding a man in a city shirt, is improving game on game.

As a wide man he seemed to lack confidence but it looks like playing down the middle with G Jones as his sidekick he has regained confidence and is settling into this season nicely.

Having said that I would prefer a CM partnership of GJ/ND with Ravenhill next choice and R Jones after him, so although I appreciate that Will has begun to change opinions, I would still not rate him as one of our best 4 CMs at the club.

No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO.
Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

1 bingley bantam wrote:
No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

We seem to have a half decent midfield, with plenty of options.

1 bingley bantam wrote:
No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

I thought Atkinson looked like a little boy lost in the midfield at Accrington. He looked nervous & dithering. IMO

1 bingley bantam wrote:
No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO.
Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

That was my thoughts pre-game on Saturday, Nahki was asked by Bermuda to play in there game, he said he was not going this time as he was putting club first. My guess was that once he was told we were going one man up for the Accy game he had a tantrum.

Total guess and supposition, reading between lines that may not even be there but as City fans we love our conspiracies.

Victor Clayton wrote:

1 bingley bantam wrote:
No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

The transfer window is closed but Nahki thinks he's a big time Charlie now and his attitude stinks.

He hasn't signed his contract as with Syers last season and we know what happened to him.

It's possible he does have an issue with his hip but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of him in a City shirt.

There's an improved contract on the table which means when he dumps us for Man Utd or Barcelona, then we'll be entitled to a fee, that's if he gets himself a club but as we saw with Taiwo, it may be a case of clubs may be too scared of signing him as we'll no doubt be asking for a hefty sum.

Let the superstar go I say, we'll be better off without him and for godsakes, give goalscorer Hannah a chance.

Just read the Article on the Ticket arrangements for the Burton cup game. It states that, fans who attend the Burton game, are advised to keep the ticket stubs just in case city are drawn at home to a big team. They would be given priority when the tickets go on sale. I hope they mean After the season ticket holders have bought theirs. It's a clever Idea to get more customers through the turnstiles to watch the Burton game.

Village Bantam wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

1 bingley bantam wrote: No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

The transfer window is closed but Nahki thinks he's a big time Charlie now and his attitude stinks. He hasn't signed his contract as with Syers last season and we know what happened to him. It's possible he does have an issue with his hip but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of him in a City shirt. There's an improved contract on the table which means when he dumps us for Man Utd or Barcelona, then we'll be entitled to a fee, that's if he gets himself a club but as we saw with Taiwo, it may be a case of clubs may be too scared of signing him as we'll no doubt be asking for a hefty sum. Let the superstar go I say, we'll be better off without him and for godsakes, give goalscorer Hannah a chance.

Why is Wells (or Syers) wrong not to accept what is on offer from City? Doesn't everyone try and get as much from their employer as they think is possible and look for better pay elsewhere if they think it is available. Why should footballers' be any different. Syers hung on for more cash and he got it and is also now testing himself at a higher level. If Ian Rush had accepted the terms on offer from Chester City in the 80's then he would have been a very silly boy wouldn't he.

If BCAFC want Wells to sign a long-term deal then it is likely that they will have to pay more money than they have currently offered. Market Forces dictate the terms...

On this story, agree that Atkinson has shown a lot more promise than he did last season.. Can't agree he looked lost on Saturday as a lot of the good (1st half) involved Will. IMO, he's a clever player and with the better players around him this season he should get even better ?? I still think he's a back up for PP, especially with Ravenhill and Jones (R) getting back to fitness but that's a nice headache to have.... With the Burton ticket arrangements Aleximo, it states if we get drawn away and get reduced allocation at a Prem club. If we get a home draw don't think we need to worry about getting a ticket...I'm not certain we'll get through, two good results against higher oppositionthen a home tie against a team we should beat... stinks off the Bristol City Q/F many many years ago after we'd beaten Everton (I think ?)

LS9BANTAM wrote:
On this story, agree that Atkinson has shown a lot more promise than he did last season.. Can't agree he looked lost on Saturday as a lot of the good (1st half) involved Will. IMO, he's a clever player and with the better players around him this season he should get even better ?? I still think he's a back up for PP, especially with Ravenhill and Jones (R) getting back to fitness but that's a nice headache to have.... With the Burton ticket arrangements Aleximo, it states if we get drawn away and get reduced allocation at a Prem club. If we get a home draw don't think we need to worry about getting a ticket...I'm not certain we'll get through, two good results against higher oppositionthen a home tie against a team we should beat... stinks off the Bristol City Q/F many many years ago after we'd beaten Everton (I think ?)

Yeh you are right m8. Sorry.

Victor Clayton wrote:

1 bingley bantam wrote: No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

Ha very sarcky Im fearing hes getting by now famous Bradford City cold shoulder Syers and Compton style and we could never see him again....

KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

1 bingley bantam wrote: No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

The transfer window is closed but Nahki thinks he's a big time Charlie now and his attitude stinks. He hasn't signed his contract as with Syers last season and we know what happened to him. It's possible he does have an issue with his hip but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of him in a City shirt. There's an improved contract on the table which means when he dumps us for Man Utd or Barcelona, then we'll be entitled to a fee, that's if he gets himself a club but as we saw with Taiwo, it may be a case of clubs may be too scared of signing him as we'll no doubt be asking for a hefty sum. Let the superstar go I say, we'll be better off without him and for godsakes, give goalscorer Hannah a chance.

Why is Wells (or Syers) wrong not to accept what is on offer from City? Doesn't everyone try and get as much from their employer as they think is possible and look for better pay elsewhere if they think it is available. Why should footballers' be any different. Syers hung on for more cash and he got it and is also now testing himself at a higher level. If Ian Rush had accepted the terms on offer from Chester City in the 80's then he would have been a very silly boy wouldn't he.

If BCAFC want Wells to sign a long-term deal then it is likely that they will have to pay more money than they have currently offered. Market Forces dictate the terms...

while he's not playing, he's not able to score and if he's not scoring then he won't attract any attention and other clubs will forget about him whilst he's not on any scorers leader board, so maybe this injury (if it requires an operation) will prevent other clubs coming poaching in January window or next summer- he'll still be unproven and no one will offer much more than currently on table from City. He'd be daft not to take a longer term contract with the club then!

harry22 wrote:
I thought Atkinson looked like a little boy lost in the midfield at Accrington. He looked nervous & dithering. IMO

I thought the opposite! Will had a job to do against Accrington and he did it.
He played pretty well last Saturday.

KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

1 bingley bantam wrote: No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

The transfer window is closed but Nahki thinks he's a big time Charlie now and his attitude stinks. He hasn't signed his contract as with Syers last season and we know what happened to him. It's possible he does have an issue with his hip but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of him in a City shirt. There's an improved contract on the table which means when he dumps us for Man Utd or Barcelona, then we'll be entitled to a fee, that's if he gets himself a club but as we saw with Taiwo, it may be a case of clubs may be too scared of signing him as we'll no doubt be asking for a hefty sum. Let the superstar go I say, we'll be better off without him and for godsakes, give goalscorer Hannah a chance.

Why is Wells (or Syers) wrong not to accept what is on offer from City? Doesn't everyone try and get as much from their employer as they think is possible and look for better pay elsewhere if they think it is available. Why should footballers' be any different. Syers hung on for more cash and he got it and is also now testing himself at a higher level. If Ian Rush had accepted the terms on offer from Chester City in the 80's then he would have been a very silly boy wouldn't he.

If BCAFC want Wells to sign a long-term deal then it is likely that they will have to pay more money than they have currently offered. Market Forces dictate the terms...

Why you comparing him or a footballer to you or I?

For a start, if I went in to work to ask for a pay rise, due to my improved performance over a six month period and I was LUCKY enough to have my wish granted, then I certainly wouldn't get more than 5-10% of my annual salary.

He's been offered THREE times more than what he's currently on - that came from the commentators on the radio.

That's 300%.

If you want to carry on comparing to the man on the street, then he's been in his job for only 6 months (well a year now but 6 when offered the contract), sure he's got potential but he's effectively a trainee, more so since he's failed previously at everywhere he's been but he's now holding his employers to ransom, not happy with his THREE HUNDRED PERCENT pay increase and he is currently touting himself about looking for anyone who might be willing to pay more.

What Ian Rush has got to do with this whole saga, I'll never know but Rushy was ready to go straight into the Liverpool first team and who in their right mind would turn down them - baring in mind at the time, they were the Man U of the day - I'm sure the Chester chairman and manager didn't think of getting in his way but I can assure you this, Nahki Wells isn't about to sign for Man Utd, for their reserves, let alone first team action, he's ready to jump ship for anyone who comes in with a better offer - Leyton Orient, should they open their wallets are a more likely destination and the Messi of Bermuda would go running.

It's quite tedious to hear people springing to the defence of others just for the sake of it.

It would make more sense for him and his career should he stay at the club who are finally helping him achieve the success he so desperately wants, take the bumper pay rise, continue to progress and then in a year or two seek a move to a Championship club, had he not already repaid the faith and money given to him by BCFC and helped us there in the process!

On the Wells situation.

I was shocked to hear about his attitude as I understand he needs an Operation and is out for 3 months. PP did hint at this before the Accy game.

Clarifying the situation contractually. He has been offered another contract so if he leaves next summer we are entitled to a sum of COMPENSATION not a fee. This due to his age.

Of course if he leaves in January he's under contract and demands a fee.

So if he is injured and out until January then there are pros and cons for the club.

Personally, unlike almost every other player on the books, I really can't warm to him. Why he doesn't, like the rest of the players, want to sign up to the current optimism I don't understand.

I'm told his attitude doesn't stink, and that he's very likeable by those I know at the club. However, his attitude suggest otherwise to me.

Anyway, it is about the club and not one player. Onwards and upwards.

Off topic, did anyone see the statistic about PPs away record in his 12 months in charge?

Played 24. Won 4. Drawn 5. Lost 15.

17 points from a possible 72.

Now that's a talking point.

The way some people on this site just love to slag off players and continually put them down even though they are playing well and scoring goals, defending goals whatever and making them feel unwanted by the fans, then it is no wonder that they don't want to stay at Bradford. For goodness sake lets start trying to praise players build up there confidence and let them know they are appreciated by the fans for the good football they play.

KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

1 bingley bantam wrote: No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

The transfer window is closed but Nahki thinks he's a big time Charlie now and his attitude stinks. He hasn't signed his contract as with Syers last season and we know what happened to him. It's possible he does have an issue with his hip but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of him in a City shirt. There's an improved contract on the table which means when he dumps us for Man Utd or Barcelona, then we'll be entitled to a fee, that's if he gets himself a club but as we saw with Taiwo, it may be a case of clubs may be too scared of signing him as we'll no doubt be asking for a hefty sum. Let the superstar go I say, we'll be better off without him and for godsakes, give goalscorer Hannah a chance.

Why is Wells (or Syers) wrong not to accept what is on offer from City? Doesn't everyone try and get as much from their employer as they think is possible and look for better pay elsewhere if they think it is available. Why should footballers' be any different. Syers hung on for more cash and he got it and is also now testing himself at a higher level. If Ian Rush had accepted the terms on offer from Chester City in the 80's then he would have been a very silly boy wouldn't he.

If BCAFC want Wells to sign a long-term deal then it is likely that they will have to pay more money than they have currently offered. Market Forces dictate the terms...

I tell u what knightmcall or whatever your called I am starting to get really sick of you always slagging of people's opinions. What is your problem? I totally agree with what is being said about Naki. If he wants to go let him go. Is he going for a scan on his head as it appears very swollen at the moment. We have a very good young striker called Ross Hanna. We have Connell Hanson and Thompson if he calls himself a striker. So why don't u do us all a favour fool and butt out of what people are writing as don't think u have agreed with anybody on here yet.

bradford321 wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

1 bingley bantam wrote: No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

The transfer window is closed but Nahki thinks he's a big time Charlie now and his attitude stinks. He hasn't signed his contract as with Syers last season and we know what happened to him. It's possible he does have an issue with his hip but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of him in a City shirt. There's an improved contract on the table which means when he dumps us for Man Utd or Barcelona, then we'll be entitled to a fee, that's if he gets himself a club but as we saw with Taiwo, it may be a case of clubs may be too scared of signing him as we'll no doubt be asking for a hefty sum. Let the superstar go I say, we'll be better off without him and for godsakes, give goalscorer Hannah a chance.

Why is Wells (or Syers) wrong not to accept what is on offer from City? Doesn't everyone try and get as much from their employer as they think is possible and look for better pay elsewhere if they think it is available. Why should footballers' be any different. Syers hung on for more cash and he got it and is also now testing himself at a higher level. If Ian Rush had accepted the terms on offer from Chester City in the 80's then he would have been a very silly boy wouldn't he. If BCAFC want Wells to sign a long-term deal then it is likely that they will have to pay more money than they have currently offered. Market Forces dictate the terms...

while he's not playing, he's not able to score and if he's not scoring then he won't attract any attention and other clubs will forget about him whilst he's not on any scorers leader board, so maybe this injury (if it requires an operation) will prevent other clubs coming poaching in January window or next summer- he'll still be unproven and no one will offer much more than currently on table from City. He'd be daft not to take a longer term contract with the club then!

I think the best thing to happen with Wells is that he is not injured. he plays out of his skin, helps us get up the league and we sell him for a decent fee in January. the worst thing would be to give him the cold shoulder. he is off anyway, why not get some VFM?

Birky Neil wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

1 bingley bantam wrote: No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

The transfer window is closed but Nahki thinks he's a big time Charlie now and his attitude stinks. He hasn't signed his contract as with Syers last season and we know what happened to him. It's possible he does have an issue with his hip but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of him in a City shirt. There's an improved contract on the table which means when he dumps us for Man Utd or Barcelona, then we'll be entitled to a fee, that's if he gets himself a club but as we saw with Taiwo, it may be a case of clubs may be too scared of signing him as we'll no doubt be asking for a hefty sum. Let the superstar go I say, we'll be better off without him and for godsakes, give goalscorer Hannah a chance.

Why is Wells (or Syers) wrong not to accept what is on offer from City? Doesn't everyone try and get as much from their employer as they think is possible and look for better pay elsewhere if they think it is available. Why should footballers' be any different. Syers hung on for more cash and he got it and is also now testing himself at a higher level. If Ian Rush had accepted the terms on offer from Chester City in the 80's then he would have been a very silly boy wouldn't he. If BCAFC want Wells to sign a long-term deal then it is likely that they will have to pay more money than they have currently offered. Market Forces dictate the terms...

I tell u what knightmcall or whatever your called I am starting to get really sick of you always slagging of people's opinions. What is your problem? I totally agree with what is being said about Naki. If he wants to go let him go. Is he going for a scan on his head as it appears very swollen at the moment. We have a very good young striker called Ross Hanna. We have Connell Hanson and Thompson if he calls himself a striker. So why don't u do us all a favour fool and butt out of what people are writing as don't think u have agreed with anybody on here yet.

he wouldn't be doing me a favour. I agree with him. there is no loyaty in football anymore - either way.

Village Bantam wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

1 bingley bantam wrote: No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

The transfer window is closed but Nahki thinks he's a big time Charlie now and his attitude stinks. He hasn't signed his contract as with Syers last season and we know what happened to him. It's possible he does have an issue with his hip but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of him in a City shirt. There's an improved contract on the table which means when he dumps us for Man Utd or Barcelona, then we'll be entitled to a fee, that's if he gets himself a club but as we saw with Taiwo, it may be a case of clubs may be too scared of signing him as we'll no doubt be asking for a hefty sum. Let the superstar go I say, we'll be better off without him and for godsakes, give goalscorer Hannah a chance.

Why is Wells (or Syers) wrong not to accept what is on offer from City? Doesn't everyone try and get as much from their employer as they think is possible and look for better pay elsewhere if they think it is available. Why should footballers' be any different. Syers hung on for more cash and he got it and is also now testing himself at a higher level. If Ian Rush had accepted the terms on offer from Chester City in the 80's then he would have been a very silly boy wouldn't he.

If BCAFC want Wells to sign a long-term deal then it is likely that they will have to pay more money than they have currently offered. Market Forces dictate the terms...

Why you comparing him or a footballer to you or I?

For a start, if I went in to work to ask for a pay rise, due to my improved performance over a six month period and I was LUCKY enough to have my wish granted, then I certainly wouldn't get more than 5-10% of my annual salary.

He's been offered THREE times more than what he's currently on - that came from the commentators on the radio.

That's 300%.

If you want to carry on comparing to the man on the street, then he's been in his job for only 6 months (well a year now but 6 when offered the contract), sure he's got potential but he's effectively a trainee, more so since he's failed previously at everywhere he's been but he's now holding his employers to ransom, not happy with his THREE HUNDRED PERCENT pay increase and he is currently touting himself about looking for anyone who might be willing to pay more.

What Ian Rush has got to do with this whole saga, I'll never know but Rushy was ready to go straight into the Liverpool first team and who in their right mind would turn down them - baring in mind at the time, they were the Man U of the day - I'm sure the Chester chairman and manager didn't think of getting in his way but I can assure you this, Nahki Wells isn't about to sign for Man Utd, for their reserves, let alone first team action, he's ready to jump ship for anyone who comes in with a better offer - Leyton Orient, should they open their wallets are a more likely destination and the Messi of Bermuda would go running.

It's quite tedious to hear people springing to the defence of others just for the sake of it.

It would make more sense for him and his career should he stay at the club who are finally helping him achieve the success he so desperately wants, take the bumper pay rise, continue to progress and then in a year or two seek a move to a Championship club, had he not already repaid the faith and money given to him by BCFC and helped us there in the process!

I'm comparing him to us because he is human. He wants the most he can get for the services he feels he can offer. The only real difference is the scale. A 300% increase is rubbish if you think you are worth (or could get) a 600% increase somewhere else. He is free to choose and if he makes the wrong decision then he will pay for it. Do you have the same opinion of Gary Jones who chose us over Rochdale this summer or Meredith who chose us over York. They both made decisions that they believe are in their best interests and Nahki will do the same. If Nahki's interests don't align with City's then he will leave. Doesn't make him a big time Charlie in my book.

Rushie wasn't the best example but players have been looking for the best option for their careers for decades. I hope Nahki does stay long-term as I enjoy watching him but if he doesn't then I'm not going to hate him for trying to get a better deal.

Victor Clayton wrote:

Birky Neil wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

1 bingley bantam wrote: No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

The transfer window is closed but Nahki thinks he's a big time Charlie now and his attitude stinks. He hasn't signed his contract as with Syers last season and we know what happened to him. It's possible he does have an issue with his hip but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of him in a City shirt. There's an improved contract on the table which means when he dumps us for Man Utd or Barcelona, then we'll be entitled to a fee, that's if he gets himself a club but as we saw with Taiwo, it may be a case of clubs may be too scared of signing him as we'll no doubt be asking for a hefty sum. Let the superstar go I say, we'll be better off without him and for godsakes, give goalscorer Hannah a chance.

Why is Wells (or Syers) wrong not to accept what is on offer from City? Doesn't everyone try and get as much from their employer as they think is possible and look for better pay elsewhere if they think it is available. Why should footballers' be any different. Syers hung on for more cash and he got it and is also now testing himself at a higher level. If Ian Rush had accepted the terms on offer from Chester City in the 80's then he would have been a very silly boy wouldn't he. If BCAFC want Wells to sign a long-term deal then it is likely that they will have to pay more money than they have currently offered. Market Forces dictate the terms...

I tell u what knightmcall or whatever your called I am starting to get really sick of you always slagging of people's opinions. What is your problem? I totally agree with what is being said about Naki. If he wants to go let him go. Is he going for a scan on his head as it appears very swollen at the moment. We have a very good young striker called Ross Hanna. We have Connell Hanson and Thompson if he calls himself a striker. So why don't u do us all a favour fool and butt out of what people are writing as don't think u have agreed with anybody on here yet.

he wouldn't be doing me a favour. I agree with him. there is no loyaty in football anymore - either way.

Loyalty is a very expensive commodity Victor...

Birky Neil wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

1 bingley bantam wrote: No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

The transfer window is closed but Nahki thinks he's a big time Charlie now and his attitude stinks. He hasn't signed his contract as with Syers last season and we know what happened to him. It's possible he does have an issue with his hip but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of him in a City shirt. There's an improved contract on the table which means when he dumps us for Man Utd or Barcelona, then we'll be entitled to a fee, that's if he gets himself a club but as we saw with Taiwo, it may be a case of clubs may be too scared of signing him as we'll no doubt be asking for a hefty sum. Let the superstar go I say, we'll be better off without him and for godsakes, give goalscorer Hannah a chance.

Why is Wells (or Syers) wrong not to accept what is on offer from City? Doesn't everyone try and get as much from their employer as they think is possible and look for better pay elsewhere if they think it is available. Why should footballers' be any different. Syers hung on for more cash and he got it and is also now testing himself at a higher level. If Ian Rush had accepted the terms on offer from Chester City in the 80's then he would have been a very silly boy wouldn't he.

If BCAFC want Wells to sign a long-term deal then it is likely that they will have to pay more money than they have currently offered. Market Forces dictate the terms...

I tell u what knightmcall or whatever your called I am starting to get really sick of you always slagging of people's opinions. What is your problem? I totally agree with what is being said about Naki. If he wants to go let him go. Is he going for a scan on his head as it appears very swollen at the moment. We have a very good young striker called Ross Hanna. We have Connell Hanson and Thompson if he calls himself a striker. So why don't u do us all a favour fool and butt out of what people are writing as don't think u have agreed with anybody on here yet.

I'm not entirely sure that you understand the concept of this forum. I am also not entirely sure whether you believe that you are BA Baracus...

Hannah is much older than Wells so wouldn't class him as young. If you disagree then so be it; these forums allow literally anyone to have an opinion.

Please learn the difference between your and you're though; it is important. Please also learn that having a different opinion does not constitute "slagging off". If the debate is too complex then stick to Disney. Disney by the way is how Glaswegians say doesn't; is that why you hate them all so much?

KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

1 bingley bantam wrote: No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

The transfer window is closed but Nahki thinks he's a big time Charlie now and his attitude stinks. He hasn't signed his contract as with Syers last season and we know what happened to him. It's possible he does have an issue with his hip but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of him in a City shirt. There's an improved contract on the table which means when he dumps us for Man Utd or Barcelona, then we'll be entitled to a fee, that's if he gets himself a club but as we saw with Taiwo, it may be a case of clubs may be too scared of signing him as we'll no doubt be asking for a hefty sum. Let the superstar go I say, we'll be better off without him and for godsakes, give goalscorer Hannah a chance.

Why is Wells (or Syers) wrong not to accept what is on offer from City? Doesn't everyone try and get as much from their employer as they think is possible and look for better pay elsewhere if they think it is available. Why should footballers' be any different. Syers hung on for more cash and he got it and is also now testing himself at a higher level. If Ian Rush had accepted the terms on offer from Chester City in the 80's then he would have been a very silly boy wouldn't he.

If BCAFC want Wells to sign a long-term deal then it is likely that they will have to pay more money than they have currently offered. Market Forces dictate the terms...

Why you comparing him or a footballer to you or I?

For a start, if I went in to work to ask for a pay rise, due to my improved performance over a six month period and I was LUCKY enough to have my wish granted, then I certainly wouldn't get more than 5-10% of my annual salary.

He's been offered THREE times more than what he's currently on - that came from the commentators on the radio.

That's 300%.

If you want to carry on comparing to the man on the street, then he's been in his job for only 6 months (well a year now but 6 when offered the contract), sure he's got potential but he's effectively a trainee, more so since he's failed previously at everywhere he's been but he's now holding his employers to ransom, not happy with his THREE HUNDRED PERCENT pay increase and he is currently touting himself about looking for anyone who might be willing to pay more.

What Ian Rush has got to do with this whole saga, I'll never know but Rushy was ready to go straight into the Liverpool first team and who in their right mind would turn down them - baring in mind at the time, they were the Man U of the day - I'm sure the Chester chairman and manager didn't think of getting in his way but I can assure you this, Nahki Wells isn't about to sign for Man Utd, for their reserves, let alone first team action, he's ready to jump ship for anyone who comes in with a better offer - Leyton Orient, should they open their wallets are a more likely destination and the Messi of Bermuda would go running.

It's quite tedious to hear people springing to the defence of others just for the sake of it.

It would make more sense for him and his career should he stay at the club who are finally helping him achieve the success he so desperately wants, take the bumper pay rise, continue to progress and then in a year or two seek a move to a Championship club, had he not already repaid the faith and money given to him by BCFC and helped us there in the process!

I'm comparing him to us because he is human. He wants the most he can get for the services he feels he can offer. The only real difference is the scale. A 300% increase is rubbish if you think you are worth (or could get) a 600% increase somewhere else. He is free to choose and if he makes the wrong decision then he will pay for it. Do you have the same opinion of Gary Jones who chose us over Rochdale this summer or Meredith who chose us over York. They both made decisions that they believe are in their best interests and Nahki will do the same. If Nahki's interests don't align with City's then he will leave. Doesn't make him a big time Charlie in my book.

Rushie wasn't the best example but players have been looking for the best option for their careers for decades. I hope Nahki does stay long-term as I enjoy watching him but if he doesn't then I'm not going to hate him for trying to get a better deal.

There's a difference between deserving more and greed.

He's young, he's on the right track with City, making good progress and he's been offered a lot more money to continue.

The sensible thing to do, would be to take the money on offer, continue to get better, let your football do the talking and the rest will take care of itself.
He hasn't made it yet, he believes he's the next best thing, probably kept his eye on football rumours throughout the summer linking him here, there and everywhere when the truth his, he's still a no one and nobody has come in for him.
City wouldn't stand in his way if an offer came in from another club, so take the money and sign the contract.

Your comparisons, once again, don't do justice to the situation as Gary Jones is a long standing servant at Rochdale and he's signed for a big club at the end of his career, probably on the same money as he was on at Rochdale, Meridith, albeit a few similarities signed for a much bigger club that he believes are going places as he turned down Burnley and Derby to sign for us, plus he'd done his bit for York winning trophies and promotion.

Anyway, the fact is, Wells has had 6 months of football where he did quite well, he's been offered a lot more money to continue his progress with a big club who are looking to go places - what more do you want as a young footballer? If you're wanting to compare to you or I, then I'm telling you that, City aside, I would certainly sign it.

Village Bantam wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

1 bingley bantam wrote: No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

The transfer window is closed but Nahki thinks he's a big time Charlie now and his attitude stinks. He hasn't signed his contract as with Syers last season and we know what happened to him. It's possible he does have an issue with his hip but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of him in a City shirt. There's an improved contract on the table which means when he dumps us for Man Utd or Barcelona, then we'll be entitled to a fee, that's if he gets himself a club but as we saw with Taiwo, it may be a case of clubs may be too scared of signing him as we'll no doubt be asking for a hefty sum. Let the superstar go I say, we'll be better off without him and for godsakes, give goalscorer Hannah a chance.

Why is Wells (or Syers) wrong not to accept what is on offer from City? Doesn't everyone try and get as much from their employer as they think is possible and look for better pay elsewhere if they think it is available. Why should footballers' be any different. Syers hung on for more cash and he got it and is also now testing himself at a higher level. If Ian Rush had accepted the terms on offer from Chester City in the 80's then he would have been a very silly boy wouldn't he. If BCAFC want Wells to sign a long-term deal then it is likely that they will have to pay more money than they have currently offered. Market Forces dictate the terms...

Why you comparing him or a footballer to you or I? For a start, if I went in to work to ask for a pay rise, due to my improved performance over a six month period and I was LUCKY enough to have my wish granted, then I certainly wouldn't get more than 5-10% of my annual salary. He's been offered THREE times more than what he's currently on - that came from the commentators on the radio. That's 300%. If you want to carry on comparing to the man on the street, then he's been in his job for only 6 months (well a year now but 6 when offered the contract), sure he's got potential but he's effectively a trainee, more so since he's failed previously at everywhere he's been but he's now holding his employers to ransom, not happy with his THREE HUNDRED PERCENT pay increase and he is currently touting himself about looking for anyone who might be willing to pay more. What Ian Rush has got to do with this whole saga, I'll never know but Rushy was ready to go straight into the Liverpool first team and who in their right mind would turn down them - baring in mind at the time, they were the Man U of the day - I'm sure the Chester chairman and manager didn't think of getting in his way but I can assure you this, Nahki Wells isn't about to sign for Man Utd, for their reserves, let alone first team action, he's ready to jump ship for anyone who comes in with a better offer - Leyton Orient, should they open their wallets are a more likely destination and the Messi of Bermuda would go running. It's quite tedious to hear people springing to the defence of others just for the sake of it. It would make more sense for him and his career should he stay at the club who are finally helping him achieve the success he so desperately wants, take the bumper pay rise, continue to progress and then in a year or two seek a move to a Championship club, had he not already repaid the faith and money given to him by BCFC and helped us there in the process!

I'm comparing him to us because he is human. He wants the most he can get for the services he feels he can offer. The only real difference is the scale. A 300% increase is rubbish if you think you are worth (or could get) a 600% increase somewhere else. He is free to choose and if he makes the wrong decision then he will pay for it. Do you have the same opinion of Gary Jones who chose us over Rochdale this summer or Meredith who chose us over York. They both made decisions that they believe are in their best interests and Nahki will do the same. If Nahki's interests don't align with City's then he will leave. Doesn't make him a big time Charlie in my book. Rushie wasn't the best example but players have been looking for the best option for their careers for decades. I hope Nahki does stay long-term as I enjoy watching him but if he doesn't then I'm not going to hate him for trying to get a better deal.

There's a difference between deserving more and greed. He's young, he's on the right track with City, making good progress and he's been offered a lot more money to continue. The sensible thing to do, would be to take the money on offer, continue to get better, let your football do the talking and the rest will take care of itself. He hasn't made it yet, he believes he's the next best thing, probably kept his eye on football rumours throughout the summer linking him here, there and everywhere when the truth his, he's still a no one and nobody has come in for him. City wouldn't stand in his way if an offer came in from another club, so take the money and sign the contract. Your comparisons, once again, don't do justice to the situation as Gary Jones is a long standing servant at Rochdale and he's signed for a big club at the end of his career, probably on the same money as he was on at Rochdale, Meridith, albeit a few similarities signed for a much bigger club that he believes are going places as he turned down Burnley and Derby to sign for us, plus he'd done his bit for York winning trophies and promotion. Anyway, the fact is, Wells has had 6 months of football where he did quite well, he's been offered a lot more money to continue his progress with a big club who are looking to go places - what more do you want as a young footballer? If you're wanting to compare to you or I, then I'm telling you that, City aside, I would certainly sign it.

VB; you have to accept that your perceptions of the situation may not be the same as Nahki's perceptions. I would repeat that if any player believes that they are worth more then they will seek out more. Why did Ashley Cole leave Arsenal? Why is Theo Walcott looking for a better deal when he earns an absolute fortune...If Wells signs the four year deal (which I hope he does) then he is effectively passing control of his career to City who can prevent him moving for four years. As such, he would be stupid to do so unless the price is right for him. None of us can predict the future; we can only make decisions based on what we know and if Nahki isn't signing then he (or is agent) must believe that the offer is not fair value. It is totally irrelevant whether it is a 300% increase on his current earnings. You seem to think that Wells owes something to Bradford City which he may do from a moral standpoint but in financial terms he owes us nothing more than the terms in his contract. Arsenal fans thinks the same of RVP; Hudds fans think the same of Jordan Rhodes. If you want to deal in facts then; the fact is that Wells may never get a better chance to earn money than he does from the nex contract he signs so to him; it could be the biggest decision he makes. I admire his self-belief if he thinks that the offer from City isn't good enough. If you don't like my examples then try David Syers as an example; if he had signed the contract that we offered last January then he would be earning substantially less right now than he his and playing one division down...Wells has the same conundrum.

Village Bantam wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

1 bingley bantam wrote: No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

The transfer window is closed but Nahki thinks he's a big time Charlie now and his attitude stinks. He hasn't signed his contract as with Syers last season and we know what happened to him. It's possible he does have an issue with his hip but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of him in a City shirt. There's an improved contract on the table which means when he dumps us for Man Utd or Barcelona, then we'll be entitled to a fee, that's if he gets himself a club but as we saw with Taiwo, it may be a case of clubs may be too scared of signing him as we'll no doubt be asking for a hefty sum. Let the superstar go I say, we'll be better off without him and for godsakes, give goalscorer Hannah a chance.

Why is Wells (or Syers) wrong not to accept what is on offer from City? Doesn't everyone try and get as much from their employer as they think is possible and look for better pay elsewhere if they think it is available. Why should footballers' be any different. Syers hung on for more cash and he got it and is also now testing himself at a higher level. If Ian Rush had accepted the terms on offer from Chester City in the 80's then he would have been a very silly boy wouldn't he.

If BCAFC want Wells to sign a long-term deal then it is likely that they will have to pay more money than they have currently offered. Market Forces dictate the terms...

Why you comparing him or a footballer to you or I?

For a start, if I went in to work to ask for a pay rise, due to my improved performance over a six month period and I was LUCKY enough to have my wish granted, then I certainly wouldn't get more than 5-10% of my annual salary.

He's been offered THREE times more than what he's currently on - that came from the commentators on the radio.

That's 300%.

If you want to carry on comparing to the man on the street, then he's been in his job for only 6 months (well a year now but 6 when offered the contract), sure he's got potential but he's effectively a trainee, more so since he's failed previously at everywhere he's been but he's now holding his employers to ransom, not happy with his THREE HUNDRED PERCENT pay increase and he is currently touting himself about looking for anyone who might be willing to pay more.

What Ian Rush has got to do with this whole saga, I'll never know but Rushy was ready to go straight into the Liverpool first team and who in their right mind would turn down them - baring in mind at the time, they were the Man U of the day - I'm sure the Chester chairman and manager didn't think of getting in his way but I can assure you this, Nahki Wells isn't about to sign for Man Utd, for their reserves, let alone first team action, he's ready to jump ship for anyone who comes in with a better offer - Leyton Orient, should they open their wallets are a more likely destination and the Messi of Bermuda would go running.

It's quite tedious to hear people springing to the defence of others just for the sake of it.

It would make more sense for him and his career should he stay at the club who are finally helping him achieve the success he so desperately wants, take the bumper pay rise, continue to progress and then in a year or two seek a move to a Championship club, had he not already repaid the faith and money given to him by BCFC and helped us there in the process!

I'm comparing him to us because he is human. He wants the most he can get for the services he feels he can offer. The only real difference is the scale. A 300% increase is rubbish if you think you are worth (or could get) a 600% increase somewhere else. He is free to choose and if he makes the wrong decision then he will pay for it. Do you have the same opinion of Gary Jones who chose us over Rochdale this summer or Meredith who chose us over York. They both made decisions that they believe are in their best interests and Nahki will do the same. If Nahki's interests don't align with City's then he will leave. Doesn't make him a big time Charlie in my book.

Rushie wasn't the best example but players have been looking for the best option for their careers for decades. I hope Nahki does stay long-term as I enjoy watching him but if he doesn't then I'm not going to hate him for trying to get a better deal.

There's a difference between deserving more and greed.

He's young, he's on the right track with City, making good progress and he's been offered a lot more money to continue.

The sensible thing to do, would be to take the money on offer, continue to get better, let your football do the talking and the rest will take care of itself.
He hasn't made it yet, he believes he's the next best thing, probably kept his eye on football rumours throughout the summer linking him here, there and everywhere when the truth his, he's still a no one and nobody has come in for him.
City wouldn't stand in his way if an offer came in from another club, so take the money and sign the contract.

Your comparisons, once again, don't do justice to the situation as Gary Jones is a long standing servant at Rochdale and he's signed for a big club at the end of his career, probably on the same money as he was on at Rochdale, Meridith, albeit a few similarities signed for a much bigger club that he believes are going places as he turned down Burnley and Derby to sign for us, plus he'd done his bit for York winning trophies and promotion.

Anyway, the fact is, Wells has had 6 months of football where he did quite well, he's been offered a lot more money to continue his progress with a big club who are looking to go places - what more do you want as a young footballer? If you're wanting to compare to you or I, then I'm telling you that, City aside, I would certainly sign it.

You say you know of a big club which is going places and has offered Nahki substantially more money.

Well, are you going to tell us who it is?

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Birky Neil wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

1 bingley bantam wrote: No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

The transfer window is closed but Nahki thinks he's a big time Charlie now and his attitude stinks. He hasn't signed his contract as with Syers last season and we know what happened to him. It's possible he does have an issue with his hip but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of him in a City shirt. There's an improved contract on the table which means when he dumps us for Man Utd or Barcelona, then we'll be entitled to a fee, that's if he gets himself a club but as we saw with Taiwo, it may be a case of clubs may be too scared of signing him as we'll no doubt be asking for a hefty sum. Let the superstar go I say, we'll be better off without him and for godsakes, give goalscorer Hannah a chance.

Why is Wells (or Syers) wrong not to accept what is on offer from City? Doesn't everyone try and get as much from their employer as they think is possible and look for better pay elsewhere if they think it is available. Why should footballers' be any different. Syers hung on for more cash and he got it and is also now testing himself at a higher level. If Ian Rush had accepted the terms on offer from Chester City in the 80's then he would have been a very silly boy wouldn't he.

If BCAFC want Wells to sign a long-term deal then it is likely that they will have to pay more money than they have currently offered. Market Forces dictate the terms...

I tell u what knightmcall or whatever your called I am starting to get really sick of you always slagging of people's opinions. What is your problem? I totally agree with what is being said about Naki. If he wants to go let him go. Is he going for a scan on his head as it appears very swollen at the moment. We have a very good young striker called Ross Hanna. We have Connell Hanson and Thompson if he calls himself a striker. So why don't u do us all a favour fool and butt out of what people are writing as don't think u have agreed with anybody on here yet.

I'm not entirely sure that you understand the concept of this forum. I am also not entirely sure whether you believe that you are BA Baracus...

Hannah is much older than Wells so wouldn't class him as young. If you disagree then so be it; these forums allow literally anyone to have an opinion.

Please learn the difference between your and you're though; it is important. Please also learn that having a different opinion does not constitute "slagging off". If the debate is too complex then stick to Disney. Disney by the way is how Glaswegians say doesn't; is that why you hate them all so much?

No when did I say I hated Glaswegians fool? I said I had never met a nice one. I spent quite some time in Glasgow too. Anyway cannot be bothered reading your rubbish u post so don't read my rubbish. Thanks and goodbye!

I'm not gonna quote as it now takes an hour to scroll down the page but KM, you keep making the same point, which I believe is invalid and you keep backing it up with points which don't even come close to the Wells situation.

He's a trainee/rookie and he's had a very small amount of relative success, given his previous failures.

Now he can believe that because of his handfull of goals for a 4th division team which finished 18th, entitles him to footballing riches but he would be wrong.

So far, he's had a six month career and he's done okay and been offered a just reward.

Holding out for more, is pure greed.

He can believe he's worth many times more - all he likes but that would be grossly overestimating himself - which he seems to be very good at.

If he needs to take ten strides forwards to get to where he wants to be, then in reality, he's only, so far, taken one but he's acting like he's the finished article and trying to skip a few steps as he thinks he's in the big leagues now.

No club has come in for him or even made an enquiry, that was confirmed by the club, however, possibly because he was scouted and also because of rumours, he seems to think he's in demand.

Comparing him to the likes of Van Persie, Walcott, Cole etc. is unwarranted and completely irrelevant as perhaps they all left for bigger deals or held their clubs to ransom for pay rises, they had at least, earned themselves a reputation, done a great deal for their clubs and possibly deserved what they ended up with.

If you've picked this argument with me because you believe I'm against people making big money or footballers earning more than they deserve, then you'd be mistaken because I would want as much as I could get too but he needs perspective as he's only at the beginning of his career, a career which City are propelling and they've offered a significant pay rise.

Sure it's a four year contract but I'm pretty certain City wouldn't say no if he came back and said he'd sign for three years or possibly two and were we to go up with him playing his part, then before this one ended, I'm sure he'd have an improved one on the table, that's if, due to his contributions a bigger club didn't come in for him first - which as we all know, City would accept but that's too many variables, the truth still is, he's an arrogant, selfish greedy toad - I've seen his interviews and seen his attitude to his own (City) supporters on Twitter and I've heard the stories.

I'd much rather we get rid of him and give someone a go with a bit more desire such as Ross Hannah, who in my view would score bag fulls at this level given the chance.

Village Bantam wrote:
I'm not gonna quote as it now takes an hour to scroll down the page but KM, you keep making the same point, which I believe is invalid and you keep backing it up with points which don't even come close to the Wells situation. He's a trainee/rookie and he's had a very small amount of relative success, given his previous failures. Now he can believe that because of his handfull of goals for a 4th division team which finished 18th, entitles him to footballing riches but he would be wrong. So far, he's had a six month career and he's done okay and been offered a just reward. Holding out for more, is pure greed. He can believe he's worth many times more - all he likes but that would be grossly overestimating himself - which he seems to be very good at. If he needs to take ten strides forwards to get to where he wants to be, then in reality, he's only, so far, taken one but he's acting like he's the finished article and trying to skip a few steps as he thinks he's in the big leagues now. No club has come in for him or even made an enquiry, that was confirmed by the club, however, possibly because he was scouted and also because of rumours, he seems to think he's in demand. Comparing him to the likes of Van Persie, Walcott, Cole etc. is unwarranted and completely irrelevant as perhaps they all left for bigger deals or held their clubs to ransom for pay rises, they had at least, earned themselves a reputation, done a great deal for their clubs and possibly deserved what they ended up with. If you've picked this argument with me because you believe I'm against people making big money or footballers earning more than they deserve, then you'd be mistaken because I would want as much as I could get too but he needs perspective as he's only at the beginning of his career, a career which City are propelling and they've offered a significant pay rise. Sure it's a four year contract but I'm pretty certain City wouldn't say no if he came back and said he'd sign for three years or possibly two and were we to go up with him playing his part, then before this one ended, I'm sure he'd have an improved one on the table, that's if, due to his contributions a bigger club didn't come in for him first - which as we all know, City would accept but that's too many variables, the truth still is, he's an arrogant, selfish greedy toad - I've seen his interviews and seen his attitude to his own (City) supporters on Twitter and I've heard the stories. I'd much rather we get rid of him and give someone a go with a bit more desire such as Ross Hannah, who in my view would score bag fulls at this level given the chance.

VB, i imagine if we were sat in a pub having a pint that we would have found common ground by now. What I do believe is that his curcumstances are no different to ANY other player who has less than one year left on an existing contract. He is free to let that contract run down and then hope to get something better. He may look foolish later on but he doesn't actually have to EARN the right to a big money move; he just needs to believe that some club will be willing to pay him more. He may already know for a fact that some club or clubs will give him a better deal (i.e. he may have been tapped up) but I don't see why holding out for the biggest contract that he believes is available make him greedy unless you are looking at the scenario only from City's point of view. If Wells signs a four year deal at City then he is limiting he weakens his own negotiating position and strengthens City. If he chooses to believe that a better offer will come along in the next 12 months then that is his prerogative. I don't see that as greedy; i see it as negotiation; a very basic issue of supply and demand. You obbviously believe that he is being stupid and no-one can argue with your opinion on that we will find out in the future what the correct decision will have been. The David Syers scenario is exactly the same and Syers has played the game well...we don't yet know if Wells will get the same outcome.

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KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

Village Bantam wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

1 bingley bantam wrote: No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

The transfer window is closed but Nahki thinks he's a big time Charlie now and his attitude stinks. He hasn't signed his contract as with Syers last season and we know what happened to him. It's possible he does have an issue with his hip but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of him in a City shirt. There's an improved contract on the table which means when he dumps us for Man Utd or Barcelona, then we'll be entitled to a fee, that's if he gets himself a club but as we saw with Taiwo, it may be a case of clubs may be too scared of signing him as we'll no doubt be asking for a hefty sum. Let the superstar go I say, we'll be better off without him and for godsakes, give goalscorer Hannah a chance.

Why is Wells (or Syers) wrong not to accept what is on offer from City? Doesn't everyone try and get as much from their employer as they think is possible and look for better pay elsewhere if they think it is available. Why should footballers' be any different. Syers hung on for more cash and he got it and is also now testing himself at a higher level. If Ian Rush had accepted the terms on offer from Chester City in the 80's then he would have been a very silly boy wouldn't he. If BCAFC want Wells to sign a long-term deal then it is likely that they will have to pay more money than they have currently offered. Market Forces dictate the terms...

Why you comparing him or a footballer to you or I? For a start, if I went in to work to ask for a pay rise, due to my improved performance over a six month period and I was LUCKY enough to have my wish granted, then I certainly wouldn't get more than 5-10% of my annual salary. He's been offered THREE times more than what he's currently on - that came from the commentators on the radio. That's 300%. If you want to carry on comparing to the man on the street, then he's been in his job for only 6 months (well a year now but 6 when offered the contract), sure he's got potential but he's effectively a trainee, more so since he's failed previously at everywhere he's been but he's now holding his employers to ransom, not happy with his THREE HUNDRED PERCENT pay increase and he is currently touting himself about looking for anyone who might be willing to pay more. What Ian Rush has got to do with this whole saga, I'll never know but Rushy was ready to go straight into the Liverpool first team and who in their right mind would turn down them - baring in mind at the time, they were the Man U of the day - I'm sure the Chester chairman and manager didn't think of getting in his way but I can assure you this, Nahki Wells isn't about to sign for Man Utd, for their reserves, let alone first team action, he's ready to jump ship for anyone who comes in with a better offer - Leyton Orient, should they open their wallets are a more likely destination and the Messi of Bermuda would go running. It's quite tedious to hear people springing to the defence of others just for the sake of it. It would make more sense for him and his career should he stay at the club who are finally helping him achieve the success he so desperately wants, take the bumper pay rise, continue to progress and then in a year or two seek a move to a Championship club, had he not already repaid the faith and money given to him by BCFC and helped us there in the process!

I'm comparing him to us because he is human. He wants the most he can get for the services he feels he can offer. The only real difference is the scale. A 300% increase is rubbish if you think you are worth (or could get) a 600% increase somewhere else. He is free to choose and if he makes the wrong decision then he will pay for it. Do you have the same opinion of Gary Jones who chose us over Rochdale this summer or Meredith who chose us over York. They both made decisions that they believe are in their best interests and Nahki will do the same. If Nahki's interests don't align with City's then he will leave. Doesn't make him a big time Charlie in my book. Rushie wasn't the best example but players have been looking for the best option for their careers for decades. I hope Nahki does stay long-term as I enjoy watching him but if he doesn't then I'm not going to hate him for trying to get a better deal.

There's a difference between deserving more and greed. He's young, he's on the right track with City, making good progress and he's been offered a lot more money to continue. The sensible thing to do, would be to take the money on offer, continue to get better, let your football do the talking and the rest will take care of itself. He hasn't made it yet, he believes he's the next best thing, probably kept his eye on football rumours throughout the summer linking him here, there and everywhere when the truth his, he's still a no one and nobody has come in for him. City wouldn't stand in his way if an offer came in from another club, so take the money and sign the contract. Your comparisons, once again, don't do justice to the situation as Gary Jones is a long standing servant at Rochdale and he's signed for a big club at the end of his career, probably on the same money as he was on at Rochdale, Meridith, albeit a few similarities signed for a much bigger club that he believes are going places as he turned down Burnley and Derby to sign for us, plus he'd done his bit for York winning trophies and promotion. Anyway, the fact is, Wells has had 6 months of football where he did quite well, he's been offered a lot more money to continue his progress with a big club who are looking to go places - what more do you want as a young footballer? If you're wanting to compare to you or I, then I'm telling you that, City aside, I would certainly sign it.

You say you know of a big club which is going places and has offered Nahki substantially more money. Well, are you going to tell us who it is?

That's not helpful Scargutt; but is quite humourous.

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1 bingley bantam wrote: No where near to being convinced yet far better midfielders at the club IMO. Slightly off main subject i quote PP "I didnt feel i needed to play him (Nakki Wells) unless he was right in his mind" whats thats got to do with his bloody hip? i smell a rat.

what do you mean? isn't the transfere window closed?

The transfer window is closed but Nahki thinks he's a big time Charlie now and his attitude stinks. He hasn't signed his contract as with Syers last season and we know what happened to him. It's possible he does have an issue with his hip but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of him in a City shirt. There's an improved contract on the table which means when he dumps us for Man Utd or Barcelona, then we'll be entitled to a fee, that's if he gets himself a club but as we saw with Taiwo, it may be a case of clubs may be too scared of signing him as we'll no doubt be asking for a hefty sum. Let the superstar go I say, we'll be better off without him and for godsakes, give goalscorer Hannah a chance.

Why is Wells (or Syers) wrong not to accept what is on offer from City? Doesn't everyone try and get as much from their employer as they think is possible and look for better pay elsewhere if they think it is available. Why should footballers' be any different. Syers hung on for more cash and he got it and is also now testing himself at a higher level. If Ian Rush had accepted the terms on offer from Chester City in the 80's then he would have been a very silly boy wouldn't he. If BCAFC want Wells to sign a long-term deal then it is likely that they will have to pay more money than they have currently offered. Market Forces dictate the terms...

Why you comparing him or a footballer to you or I? For a start, if I went in to work to ask for a pay rise, due to my improved performance over a six month period and I was LUCKY enough to have my wish granted, then I certainly wouldn't get more than 5-10% of my annual salary. He's been offered THREE times more than what he's currently on - that came from the commentators on the radio. That's 300%. If you want to carry on comparing to the man on the street, then he's been in his job for only 6 months (well a year now but 6 when offered the contract), sure he's got potential but he's effectively a trainee, more so since he's failed previously at everywhere he's been but he's now holding his employers to ransom, not happy with his THREE HUNDRED PERCENT pay increase and he is currently touting himself about looking for anyone who might be willing to pay more. What Ian Rush has got to do with this whole saga, I'll never know but Rushy was ready to go straight into the Liverpool first team and who in their right mind would turn down them - baring in mind at the time, they were the Man U of the day - I'm sure the Chester chairman and manager didn't think of getting in his way but I can assure you this, Nahki Wells isn't about to sign for Man Utd, for their reserves, let alone first team action, he's ready to jump ship for anyone who comes in with a better offer - Leyton Orient, should they open their wallets are a more likely destination and the Messi of Bermuda would go running. It's quite tedious to hear people springing to the defence of others just for the sake of it. It would make more sense for him and his career should he stay at the club who are finally helping him achieve the success he so desperately wants, take the bumper pay rise, continue to progress and then in a year or two seek a move to a Championship club, had he not already repaid the faith and money given to him by BCFC and helped us there in the process!

I'm comparing him to us because he is human. He wants the most he can get for the services he feels he can offer. The only real difference is the scale. A 300% increase is rubbish if you think you are worth (or could get) a 600% increase somewhere else. He is free to choose and if he makes the wrong decision then he will pay for it. Do you have the same opinion of Gary Jones who chose us over Rochdale this summer or Meredith who chose us over York. They both made decisions that they believe are in their best interests and Nahki will do the same. If Nahki's interests don't align with City's then he will leave. Doesn't make him a big time Charlie in my book. Rushie wasn't the best example but players have been looking for the best option for their careers for decades. I hope Nahki does stay long-term as I enjoy watching him but if he doesn't then I'm not going to hate him for trying to get a better deal.

There's a difference between deserving more and greed. He's young, he's on the right track with City, making good progress and he's been offered a lot more money to continue. The sensible thing to do, would be to take the money on offer, continue to get better, let your football do the talking and the rest will take care of itself. He hasn't made it yet, he believes he's the next best thing, probably kept his eye on football rumours throughout the summer linking him here, there and everywhere when the truth his, he's still a no one and nobody has come in for him. City wouldn't stand in his way if an offer came in from another club, so take the money and sign the contract. Your comparisons, once again, don't do justice to the situation as Gary Jones is a long standing servant at Rochdale and he's signed for a big club at the end of his career, probably on the same money as he was on at Rochdale, Meridith, albeit a few similarities signed for a much bigger club that he believes are going places as he turned down Burnley and Derby to sign for us, plus he'd done his bit for York winning trophies and promotion. Anyway, the fact is, Wells has had 6 months of football where he did quite well, he's been offered a lot more money to continue his progress with a big club who are looking to go places - what more do you want as a young footballer? If you're wanting to compare to you or I, then I'm telling you that, City aside, I would certainly sign it.

You say you know of a big club which is going places and has offered Nahki substantially more money. Well, are you going to tell us who it is?

That's not helpful Scargutt; but is quite humourous.

Thanks, someone has to lighten the mood on here!

Just to add another point which I don't believe has been raised before. In the last 4 years, City has had 4 different managers. On that basis, what is the point of signing a 4 year contract as a new manager in March 2013 might not want Nahki.

Sadly these days I think it's far more pragmatic to keep contracts realistically short. At the end of the season, if Parkinson is still manager, Nahki might decide that staying is the best option and can then sign a contract which both he and the club are happy with.

It works both ways here too. how many times have you heard fans moaning about a player who is not worth what they're being paid after he's signed a new contract and his performances have then dipped.

This way, he's kept hungry and on his toes and the club aren't tied in to something they can't or won't honour or afford.

A 300% increase is relative also, it may sound bumper but would still make him one of the lower paid players at our club.

I'd love a 300% increase on my wage, now that would make a difference but when you're only on a 'believed' £250 per week for playing professional football it isn't that great. Bit of perspective needed.

Anyway, as always this is getting circular and we hold little fact apart from NW is a City player with a one year, improved deal he has signed, he may go on to smash club records or he may rot in the ressies. Let's come back and discuss this situation in January