Zavon Hines makes losing debut as Carl McHugh also added to Bradford City squad

Zavon Hines in action at Gillingham after coming on as a substitute Zavon Hines in action at Gillingham after coming on as a substitute

Phil Parkinson is poised to pull up the draw bridge on City’s squad.

Zavon Hines, who came on as a substitute in Saturday’s opening league loss at Gillingham, and teenager Carl McHugh took the tally to 11 signings.

And Parkinson admits that will probably be the lot – unless Ritchie Jones is more seriously injured than feared.

Jones missed the trip to Kent after twisting his ankle in training on Friday. And with skipper Ricky Ravenhill also sidelined, that leaves City stretched in central midfield.

But otherwise the Bantams boss is unlikely to push the club board for any further additions.

“We’ll have to look how bad Jonah is but otherwise that’s more or less it,” said Parkinson.

“The squad is looking good and anyone who was at Saturday’s game will see we’ve got some real quality there.

“The only downside is that we’ve got players like Andrew Davies, Nathan Doyle and Zavon who are going to take a while to really get up to speed. But we’ve just got to accept that.

“Davo has been a bit unlucky with injuries and the others haven’t had much football. We’ve got to make sure we make the proper calls and pick the players when they are right to play.”

Winger Hines showed some promising moments in the last half hour of City’s 3-1 defeat at the sweltering Priestfield Stadium and could have scored from one burst into the box.

Parkinson said: “Zavon has got that pace and ability to go past people. There’s a lot of raw material to work with and we’ll enjoy doing that with him.

“There were a lot of good aspects in our display in terms of dominating possession and some of the football we played. It was disappointing to come away with nothing.”

Nahki Wells came off the bench to score City’s penalty within four minutes and staked a strong claim for a start in tomorrow’s home clash with Fleetwood.

Parkinson had named an unchanged side but admitted the performances of subs Wells and Hines have given him plenty to think about.

He said: “Nahki came on and looked great. He got the penalty and stuck it away well and made a difference.

“I thought we started really well at Notts County last week and that system, with Alan (Connell) dropping off deep with the pace of Garry Thompson and Kyel Reid, was the right way to start the game.

“We’ll have a look at things again for Fleetwood and how well people have recovered from playing in that heat.”

Comments(44)

shaun from richmond says...
8:52am Mon 20 Aug 12

I SHOULD THINK SO!!... More like the board has told him enough is enough!..........
My belief is "deadbeat" wont make it to Christmas......BUT I REALLY HOPE IM WRONG!!

1 bingley bantam says...
9:01am Mon 20 Aug 12

Yeah we defo have got a very good squad quality wise still feel we could do with another central midfielder in my dreams Taiwo.
Wells has to start tomorrow dont risk Davies if their is any chance of him aggravating an injury but would also start Hines in place of Thompson and Doyle in place of Atkinson yeah not fully match fit but their young lads and surely up to playing 60 mins or so.

Correctness says...
9:11am Mon 20 Aug 12

shaun from richmond wrote:
I SHOULD THINK SO!!... More like the board has told him enough is enough!.......... My belief is "deadbeat" wont make it to Christmas......BUT I REALLY HOPE IM WRONG!!
I think you will be right again Shaun, only problem is money would be needed for pay out and to appoint new manager athough in view of circumstances at City I would not think anybody who was worth anything would want the job.

JamesRobertshaw says...
10:16am Mon 20 Aug 12

Hope we do play Davies, Hines and Doyle Tuesday, if we pick the same team i feel we'll just lose again. Can understand Doyle and Hines not playing since they've been out the game longer and needs a bit more training but Davies should be able to start, he's not injured is he?

Peter300 says...
10:18am Mon 20 Aug 12

shaun from richmond wrote:
I SHOULD THINK SO!!... More like the board has told him enough is enough!.......... My belief is "deadbeat" wont make it to Christmas......BUT I REALLY HOPE IM WRONG!!
deadbeat Shaun is BACK................
!!!!!!!!! He plays golf with Paul JEWELL you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..
....And he's been to TORQUAY.........!!!!
!!!!! and......and.......a
nd.....he's been to DUBAI.........!!!!!! how about THAT!!!!!!!!????????
?? Shaun...........the real...........DEADB
EAT!!!!!!!!!

tyker2 says...
10:39am Mon 20 Aug 12

ok we were beat by a wonder goal, a penalty and a late winner as we were pressing BUT we are not strong enough in midfield. PERIOD!!

It has to be sorted soon or we are in for a deadbeat season again!!

pudsey_bantam says...
11:03am Mon 20 Aug 12

Good to see we are now favourites for the drop

It is time to say goodbye to Phil?

Correctness says...
11:22am Mon 20 Aug 12

Peter300 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote: I SHOULD THINK SO!!... More like the board has told him enough is enough!.......... My belief is "deadbeat" wont make it to Christmas......BUT I REALLY HOPE IM WRONG!!
deadbeat Shaun is BACK................ !!!!!!!!! He plays golf with Paul JEWELL you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. ....And he's been to TORQUAY.........!!!! !!!!! and......and.......a nd.....he's been to DUBAI.........!!!!!! how about THAT!!!!!!!!???????? ?? Shaun...........the real...........DEADB EAT!!!!!!!!!
So he's better travelled and more educated than you. Don't be jealous there will proably be someone less well off than you in the Third World.

JamesRobertshaw says...
11:30am Mon 20 Aug 12

pudsey_bantam wrote:
Good to see we are now favourites for the drop

It is time to say goodbye to Phil?
Think so, we've given him a chance this season he's made his squad and he just hasn't delivered 1 win in 2 just isn't good enough. PP out haha.

SHANDY says...
11:41am Mon 20 Aug 12

shaun from richmond wrote:
I SHOULD THINK SO!!... More like the board has told him enough is enough!.......... My belief is "deadbeat" wont make it to Christmas......BUT I REALLY HOPE IM WRONG!!
You really are beyond belief.
We don't need fans like you.get back to your sheep. 8-)

Bacon Bantam says...
11:43am Mon 20 Aug 12

Early days, team coming together for the first time, they should get better as the more games they play.

I think we had a core of players last year who did very well and should really be the spine of the team so I was a little bit disapointed to see Davies and Wells not in the starting 11 as I thought they were the main part of the team.

Part of me thinks that Wells is being kept out of the team not to alert others before the end of the transfer deadline, it's the only logical reason I can think of keeping him out of the starting 11 if he is fit.

SHANDY says...
11:44am Mon 20 Aug 12

pudsey_bantam wrote:
Good to see we are now favourites for the drop It is time to say goodbye to Phil?
Another Muppet are you related to Shaun or maybe your his sheep.you will be eating your words end of the season.

Meat Pie says...
11:48am Mon 20 Aug 12

SHANDY wrote:
pudsey_bantam wrote: Good to see we are now favourites for the drop It is time to say goodbye to Phil?
Another Muppet are you related to Shaun or maybe your his sheep.you will be eating your words end of the season.
Based on what evidence?

Killerwhale says...
12:29pm Mon 20 Aug 12

The make up of this site means that it becomes an opinionated hotpot of disagreements and thats why some of us like to just read some of the banter (slagging off) but what I really don't get is why so many people seem to think Shaun is a negative supporter and who we are better off without. I think he sound, like me, a seasoned campaigner who has seen and heard too many promises come and go by third rate managers. PP has my full backing but like many before him who have recruited well and wetted the appetite of supporters, I don't have much confidence in him so I make this cheeky prediction that by the time we are celebrating promotion at the end of the season we will have Parkin managing the team, and Parkin running the club. By the way James R, Davies has a tight hamstring I believe so rightly leaving it, but if these were must win games at the tail end of the season he would be playing.

Thee Voice of Reason says...
12:52pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Killerwhale wrote:
The make up of this site means that it becomes an opinionated hotpot of disagreements and thats why some of us like to just read some of the banter (slagging off) but what I really don't get is why so many people seem to think Shaun is a negative supporter and who we are better off without. I think he sound, like me, a seasoned campaigner who has seen and heard too many promises come and go by third rate managers. PP has my full backing but like many before him who have recruited well and wetted the appetite of supporters, I don't have much confidence in him so I make this cheeky prediction that by the time we are celebrating promotion at the end of the season we will have Parkin managing the team, and Parkin running the club. By the way James R, Davies has a tight hamstring I believe so rightly leaving it, but if these were must win games at the tail end of the season he would be playing.
Some people believe you can't be critical in support.
If your brother was drinking himself to death you'd have a word and tell him he was wrong and be critical of his lifestyle.
You still love your brother for doing so.
Why is being critical of the team you support any different.
If you think the wrong players are being played in the wrong positions why are you any less of a supporter for saying so, rather than simply going along with it and turning a blind eye?

Lynchie says...
1:16pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Just a footnote on Saturday's game-according to the BBC stats City had 75% possession and scored once Gillingham had 25% possession and scored 3-so where does the problem lie?

bantamcougar says...
1:20pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Correctness wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote: I SHOULD THINK SO!!... More like the board has told him enough is enough!.......... My belief is "deadbeat" wont make it to Christmas......BUT I REALLY HOPE IM WRONG!!
deadbeat Shaun is BACK................ !!!!!!!!! He plays golf with Paul JEWELL you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. ....And he's been to TORQUAY.........!!!! !!!!! and......and.......a nd.....he's been to DUBAI.........!!!!!! how about THAT!!!!!!!!???????? ?? Shaun...........the real...........DEADB EAT!!!!!!!!!
So he's better travelled and more educated than you. Don't be jealous there will proably be someone less well off than you in the Third World.
You are Shaun from Richmond and i claim my 50P prize. Doppleganger !!

northyboy says...
1:21pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Killerwhale wrote:
The make up of this site means that it becomes an opinionated hotpot of disagreements and thats why some of us like to just read some of the banter (slagging off) but what I really don't get is why so many people seem to think Shaun is a negative supporter and who we are better off without. I think he sound, like me, a seasoned campaigner who has seen and heard too many promises come and go by third rate managers. PP has my full backing but like many before him who have recruited well and wetted the appetite of supporters, I don't have much confidence in him so I make this cheeky prediction that by the time we are celebrating promotion at the end of the season we will have Parkin managing the team, and Parkin running the club. By the way James R, Davies has a tight hamstring I believe so rightly leaving it, but if these were must win games at the tail end of the season he would be playing.
Some people believe you can't be critical in support.
If your brother was drinking himself to death you'd have a word and tell him he was wrong and be critical of his lifestyle.
You still love your brother for doing so.
Why is being critical of the team you support any different.
If you think the wrong players are being played in the wrong positions why are you any less of a supporter for saying so, rather than simply going along with it and turning a blind eye?
Being critical is everyone's right and I would agree with what most people say because it's their opinion but to start slagging the team and manager off after one game is not really helping anyone. If we get to xmas and are still at the bottom then calls for the managers head may be justified but every team and manager need time to settle down and gel together. Keep the faith, this year is the turning point!

Bacon Bantam says...
1:34pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Lynchie wrote:
Just a footnote on Saturday's game-according to the BBC stats City had 75% possession and scored once Gillingham had 25% possession and scored 3-so where does the problem lie?
Putting the ball in the back of the net more times than the opposition would be my guess based on those stats.

340stopper says...
2:06pm Mon 20 Aug 12

northyboy wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Killerwhale wrote: The make up of this site means that it becomes an opinionated hotpot of disagreements and thats why some of us like to just read some of the banter (slagging off) but what I really don't get is why so many people seem to think Shaun is a negative supporter and who we are better off without. I think he sound, like me, a seasoned campaigner who has seen and heard too many promises come and go by third rate managers. PP has my full backing but like many before him who have recruited well and wetted the appetite of supporters, I don't have much confidence in him so I make this cheeky prediction that by the time we are celebrating promotion at the end of the season we will have Parkin managing the team, and Parkin running the club. By the way James R, Davies has a tight hamstring I believe so rightly leaving it, but if these were must win games at the tail end of the season he would be playing.
Some people believe you can't be critical in support. If your brother was drinking himself to death you'd have a word and tell him he was wrong and be critical of his lifestyle. You still love your brother for doing so. Why is being critical of the team you support any different. If you think the wrong players are being played in the wrong positions why are you any less of a supporter for saying so, rather than simply going along with it and turning a blind eye?
Being critical is everyone's right and I would agree with what most people say because it's their opinion but to start slagging the team and manager off after one game is not really helping anyone. If we get to xmas and are still at the bottom then calls for the managers head may be justified but every team and manager need time to settle down and gel together. Keep the faith, this year is the turning point!
It's just that some managers need a lot less time than PP - Rotherham and Gillingham's managers as just only two examples ?

Scuba Dee says...
2:27pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Peter300 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
I SHOULD THINK SO!!... More like the board has told him enough is enough!.......... My belief is "deadbeat" wont make it to Christmas......BUT I REALLY HOPE IM WRONG!!
deadbeat Shaun is BACK................

!!!!!!!!! He plays golf with Paul JEWELL you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..

....And he's been to TORQUAY.........!!!!

!!!!! and......and.......a

nd.....he's been to DUBAI.........!!!!!! how about THAT!!!!!!!!????????

?? Shaun...........the real...........DEADB

EAT!!!!!!!!!
Really? Plays golf with PJ? Must know my cousin then as he plays golf with Jewell too.

northyboy says...
2:45pm Mon 20 Aug 12

340stopper wrote:
northyboy wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Killerwhale wrote: The make up of this site means that it becomes an opinionated hotpot of disagreements and thats why some of us like to just read some of the banter (slagging off) but what I really don't get is why so many people seem to think Shaun is a negative supporter and who we are better off without. I think he sound, like me, a seasoned campaigner who has seen and heard too many promises come and go by third rate managers. PP has my full backing but like many before him who have recruited well and wetted the appetite of supporters, I don't have much confidence in him so I make this cheeky prediction that by the time we are celebrating promotion at the end of the season we will have Parkin managing the team, and Parkin running the club. By the way James R, Davies has a tight hamstring I believe so rightly leaving it, but if these were must win games at the tail end of the season he would be playing.
Some people believe you can't be critical in support. If your brother was drinking himself to death you'd have a word and tell him he was wrong and be critical of his lifestyle. You still love your brother for doing so. Why is being critical of the team you support any different. If you think the wrong players are being played in the wrong positions why are you any less of a supporter for saying so, rather than simply going along with it and turning a blind eye?
Being critical is everyone's right and I would agree with what most people say because it's their opinion but to start slagging the team and manager off after one game is not really helping anyone. If we get to xmas and are still at the bottom then calls for the managers head may be justified but every team and manager need time to settle down and gel together. Keep the faith, this year is the turning point!
It's just that some managers need a lot less time than PP - Rotherham and Gillingham's managers as just only two examples ?
Totally agree with you but where we are at the end of the season is what matters not where we are after the first game. I suspect Rotherham and Gillingham will be up there and hopefully we'll be there too!

theoutsider says...
2:54pm Mon 20 Aug 12

A hugely important game tomorrow evening. It cannot be stressed how vital it is to set down the marker and particularly against a 'supposed' front runner team. Have to be out the blocks from the off and non this hoofing it up to Hanson and hoping. We need to get the ball down, get it to the wingers Reid and Hines ( if he replaces Thompson ) and just put Fleetwood right in their place. Three points are needed we are already running behind schedule and with two winnable home games we can get back on track for the 'average 2pts a game needed to be automatic promotion contenders.

pudsey_bantam says...
3:32pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Meat Pie wrote:
SHANDY wrote:
pudsey_bantam wrote: Good to see we are now favourites for the drop It is time to say goodbye to Phil?
Another Muppet are you related to Shaun or maybe your his sheep.you will be eating your words end of the season.
Based on what evidence?
Our odds by most

And our total lack of evidence to register a win

cormon says...
4:19pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Tyker is on the ball of all the early comments. The strengths and advantages of Parkinson have been seen in the close season - a capacity for seeking out and signing new blood, the ability to put a squad together that looks to have some class and talent and the commitment to work hard for the club.
However, some might question the balance of the squad with two mid-fielders injured so early. The other main issue is the realisation that whereas we did boss the possession in the first game, the ability to fashion clear cut chances still appears to be a challenge. If we're going with wingers, the crosses become crucial as there is little invention from midfield to split a defence and give the strikers a shout. In the last third of the park there is a need for a pattern of play that opens up defences. Currently we have Hanson's head, Wells' pace and the unpredictability of pacey wingers. As the stats from Saturday show, this is insufficient to break down well marshalled defences. Some intensive coaching in this department is the recipe for improvement.

northyorksbantam says...
5:13pm Mon 20 Aug 12

cormon wrote:
Tyker is on the ball of all the early comments. The strengths and advantages of Parkinson have been seen in the close season - a capacity for seeking out and signing new blood, the ability to put a squad together that looks to have some class and talent and the commitment to work hard for the club. However, some might question the balance of the squad with two mid-fielders injured so early. The other main issue is the realisation that whereas we did boss the possession in the first game, the ability to fashion clear cut chances still appears to be a challenge. If we're going with wingers, the crosses become crucial as there is little invention from midfield to split a defence and give the strikers a shout. In the last third of the park there is a need for a pattern of play that opens up defences. Currently we have Hanson's head, Wells' pace and the unpredictability of pacey wingers. As the stats from Saturday show, this is insufficient to break down well marshalled defences. Some intensive coaching in this department is the recipe for improvement.
Good assessment Cormon. Coaching is something that often gets forgotten about as there is such a demand for success, players just appear to get replaced rather than coached.

It's been a long standing problem for us in getting a ball playing creative midfielder. We have tried and failed with the highly rated McLaren and Doherty previously. Makes you wonder if there is a place for this type of player in the hustle and bustle of league 2 or just the age old problem of players not been able to step up when playing for BCAFC?. Its a shame we didn't go for Blake as I really think he would have done the business in this role.

Parky seems to have opted for hard grafting hard running experienced midfielders, and they all do certain jobs pretty well, though Atkinson still has plenty to prove...unfortunatle
y none of em are very creative, which is a shame as I think this season we have the front men to put the ball in the net in Hanson,Wells and Connell and Wells in particlar would thrive on little through balls etc.

Problem with Hines and Reid is they are your typical examples of quick wingers at this level, who on there day can be pretty explosive, but on others they just disappear or can't get in the game (probably Hines in particular in this respect at this moment). Can we afford 2 players on the pitch who are out of the game?. We saw it with Daley on a regular basis and although Reid has more good days than Daley he can still be a little hit and miss. There seem to be a lot who want Hines to start but this is why I suspect Thomspon will continue to get the nod over Hines as he is a "safer" option and Hines will be seen as an impact sub initially.

lonniejockstrap says...
6:33pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Killerwhale wrote:
The make up of this site means that it becomes an opinionated hotpot of disagreements and thats why some of us like to just read some of the banter (slagging off) but what I really don't get is why so many people seem to think Shaun is a negative supporter and who we are better off without. I think he sound, like me, a seasoned campaigner who has seen and heard too many promises come and go by third rate managers. PP has my full backing but like many before him who have recruited well and wetted the appetite of supporters, I don't have much confidence in him so I make this cheeky prediction that by the time we are celebrating promotion at the end of the season we will have Parkin managing the team, and Parkin running the club. By the way James R, Davies has a tight hamstring I believe so rightly leaving it, but if these were must win games at the tail end of the season he would be playing.
Some people believe you can't be critical in support.
If your brother was drinking himself to death you'd have a word and tell him he was wrong and be critical of his lifestyle.
You still love your brother for doing so.
Why is being critical of the team you support any different.
If you think the wrong players are being played in the wrong positions why are you any less of a supporter for saying so, rather than simply going along with it and turning a blind eye?
I don't get your comparison. somebody is drinking themselves to death being compared to somebody who is trying to do a job successfully but is being prevented by other opponents -because it's also their aim to try to do their job successfully- from having it delivered on a plate?

If I criticised your efforts at posting a comment by abusing you and/or saying you are simply talking cr@p without providing any reasonable justification for my 'criticism' I think you would find that unacceptable.

Lots of people criticise the way the team or manager performed on this site without being accused of being 'less of a supporter' than others. The difference is in how that criticism is delivered and justified. Although they may still have posters challenging and disagreeing with their opinions they are not being told to stay at home or go support Leeds etc. It is so easy to find fault I am surprised why many of the serial negative critics can be @rsed posting on such a regular basis. Do they think the rest of us are not as 'expert' as they at seeing what needs to be worked on?

prince35 says...
6:34pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Moan,moan,moan,whing
e,whinge,whinge.
Are correctness and shaun from richmond the same people?.
Why would these two ever buy a season tkt is beyond me?
Its not the management,players or currant board that will bring this club to a stand still its these supporters that after 1 game are writing bradfords chances off?

chapel house bantam says...
6:49pm Mon 20 Aug 12

prince35 wrote:
Moan,moan,moan,whing

e,whinge,whinge.
Are correctness and shaun from richmond the same people?.
Why would these two ever buy a season tkt is beyond me?
Its not the management,players or currant board that will bring this club to a stand still its these supporters that after 1 game are writing bradfords chances off?
spot on prince35 ,blah blah blah,after 1 game sack pp and start all over again and again and again!we will be up there this year defo.

Thee Voice of Reason says...
7:08pm Mon 20 Aug 12

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Killerwhale wrote:
The make up of this site means that it becomes an opinionated hotpot of disagreements and thats why some of us like to just read some of the banter (slagging off) but what I really don't get is why so many people seem to think Shaun is a negative supporter and who we are better off without. I think he sound, like me, a seasoned campaigner who has seen and heard too many promises come and go by third rate managers. PP has my full backing but like many before him who have recruited well and wetted the appetite of supporters, I don't have much confidence in him so I make this cheeky prediction that by the time we are celebrating promotion at the end of the season we will have Parkin managing the team, and Parkin running the club. By the way James R, Davies has a tight hamstring I believe so rightly leaving it, but if these were must win games at the tail end of the season he would be playing.
Some people believe you can't be critical in support.
If your brother was drinking himself to death you'd have a word and tell him he was wrong and be critical of his lifestyle.
You still love your brother for doing so.
Why is being critical of the team you support any different.
If you think the wrong players are being played in the wrong positions why are you any less of a supporter for saying so, rather than simply going along with it and turning a blind eye?
I don't get your comparison. somebody is drinking themselves to death being compared to somebody who is trying to do a job successfully but is being prevented by other opponents -because it's also their aim to try to do their job successfully- from having it delivered on a plate?

If I criticised your efforts at posting a comment by abusing you and/or saying you are simply talking cr@p without providing any reasonable justification for my 'criticism' I think you would find that unacceptable.

Lots of people criticise the way the team or manager performed on this site without being accused of being 'less of a supporter' than others. The difference is in how that criticism is delivered and justified. Although they may still have posters challenging and disagreeing with their opinions they are not being told to stay at home or go support Leeds etc. It is so easy to find fault I am surprised why many of the serial negative critics can be @rsed posting on such a regular basis. Do they think the rest of us are not as 'expert' as they at seeing what needs to be worked on?
The comparision was just to point out that you don't have to have blind faith in everything a club does to be a fan.

I'm a little sick of the idiots who believe they are superfans for not saying a bad word and anyone who offers any says otherwise should go elsewhere.

Maybe a better comparision is if you see your wife melting the clutch on the car and you suggest she alters the way she drives, you don't love her any less for saying so.

Correctness says...
7:48pm Mon 20 Aug 12

prince35 wrote:
Moan,moan,moan,whing e,whinge,whinge. Are correctness and shaun from richmond the same people?. Why would these two ever buy a season tkt is beyond me? Its not the management,players or currant board that will bring this club to a stand still its these supporters that after 1 game are writing bradfords chances off?
I have not got a season ticket but will have to be there tomorrow. I only hope to watch 45 minutes and entertain our guests who no doubt will want to stay in the suite after the interval. Any idea who guest speaker is?

settler07 says...
8:31pm Mon 20 Aug 12

What a shame. We are so close to having an awesome squad. But i think we will be proved to be short in central midfield. TAIWO is too good to miss out on. But a shame Carlisle behaving so badly. No chance i'd let my lad go there (currently on Burnley's books) if they are prepared to do this to young players.

shaun from richmond says...
8:40pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Really looking forward to tomorows game!
BLIMEY...We couldnt ask for an easier 1st home game....
Even "deadbeat" cant mess this one up!!

Wipsi says...
9:01pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Killerwhale wrote: The make up of this site means that it becomes an opinionated hotpot of disagreements and thats why some of us like to just read some of the banter (slagging off) but what I really don't get is why so many people seem to think Shaun is a negative supporter and who we are better off without. I think he sound, like me, a seasoned campaigner who has seen and heard too many promises come and go by third rate managers. PP has my full backing but like many before him who have recruited well and wetted the appetite of supporters, I don't have much confidence in him so I make this cheeky prediction that by the time we are celebrating promotion at the end of the season we will have Parkin managing the team, and Parkin running the club. By the way James R, Davies has a tight hamstring I believe so rightly leaving it, but if these were must win games at the tail end of the season he would be playing.
Some people believe you can't be critical in support. If your brother was drinking himself to death you'd have a word and tell him he was wrong and be critical of his lifestyle. You still love your brother for doing so. Why is being critical of the team you support any different. If you think the wrong players are being played in the wrong positions why are you any less of a supporter for saying so, rather than simply going along with it and turning a blind eye?
I don't get your comparison. somebody is drinking themselves to death being compared to somebody who is trying to do a job successfully but is being prevented by other opponents -because it's also their aim to try to do their job successfully- from having it delivered on a plate? If I criticised your efforts at posting a comment by abusing you and/or saying you are simply talking cr@p without providing any reasonable justification for my 'criticism' I think you would find that unacceptable. Lots of people criticise the way the team or manager performed on this site without being accused of being 'less of a supporter' than others. The difference is in how that criticism is delivered and justified. Although they may still have posters challenging and disagreeing with their opinions they are not being told to stay at home or go support Leeds etc. It is so easy to find fault I am surprised why many of the serial negative critics can be @rsed posting on such a regular basis. Do they think the rest of us are not as 'expert' as they at seeing what needs to be worked on?
The comparision was just to point out that you don't have to have blind faith in everything a club does to be a fan. I'm a little sick of the idiots who believe they are superfans for not saying a bad word and anyone who offers any says otherwise should go elsewhere. Maybe a better comparision is if you see your wife melting the clutch on the car and you suggest she alters the way she drives, you don't love her any less for saying so.
Simpleton

prince35 says...
9:22pm Mon 20 Aug 12

shaun from richmond wrote:
Really looking forward to tomorows game!
BLIMEY...We couldnt ask for an easier 1st home game....
Even "deadbeat" cant mess this one up!!
Crack pot !!!!

Thee Voice of Reason says...
9:45pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Wipsi wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Killerwhale wrote: The make up of this site means that it becomes an opinionated hotpot of disagreements and thats why some of us like to just read some of the banter (slagging off) but what I really don't get is why so many people seem to think Shaun is a negative supporter and who we are better off without. I think he sound, like me, a seasoned campaigner who has seen and heard too many promises come and go by third rate managers. PP has my full backing but like many before him who have recruited well and wetted the appetite of supporters, I don't have much confidence in him so I make this cheeky prediction that by the time we are celebrating promotion at the end of the season we will have Parkin managing the team, and Parkin running the club. By the way James R, Davies has a tight hamstring I believe so rightly leaving it, but if these were must win games at the tail end of the season he would be playing.
Some people believe you can't be critical in support. If your brother was drinking himself to death you'd have a word and tell him he was wrong and be critical of his lifestyle. You still love your brother for doing so. Why is being critical of the team you support any different. If you think the wrong players are being played in the wrong positions why are you any less of a supporter for saying so, rather than simply going along with it and turning a blind eye?
I don't get your comparison. somebody is drinking themselves to death being compared to somebody who is trying to do a job successfully but is being prevented by other opponents -because it's also their aim to try to do their job successfully- from having it delivered on a plate? If I criticised your efforts at posting a comment by abusing you and/or saying you are simply talking cr@p without providing any reasonable justification for my 'criticism' I think you would find that unacceptable. Lots of people criticise the way the team or manager performed on this site without being accused of being 'less of a supporter' than others. The difference is in how that criticism is delivered and justified. Although they may still have posters challenging and disagreeing with their opinions they are not being told to stay at home or go support Leeds etc. It is so easy to find fault I am surprised why many of the serial negative critics can be @rsed posting on such a regular basis. Do they think the rest of us are not as 'expert' as they at seeing what needs to be worked on?
The comparision was just to point out that you don't have to have blind faith in everything a club does to be a fan. I'm a little sick of the idiots who believe they are superfans for not saying a bad word and anyone who offers any says otherwise should go elsewhere. Maybe a better comparision is if you see your wife melting the clutch on the car and you suggest she alters the way she drives, you don't love her any less for saying so.
Simpleton
I like lonnie as he/she is one of a few who will bother to give you a well though out reply even if more often than not I don't tend to agree with him/her.
You are one of those who add nothing to any forum with pointless remarks like that.

northyorksbantam says...
10:17pm Mon 20 Aug 12

settler07 wrote:
What a shame. We are so close to having an awesome squad. But i think we will be proved to be short in central midfield. TAIWO is too good to miss out on. But a shame Carlisle behaving so badly. No chance i'd let my lad go there (currently on Burnley's books) if they are prepared to do this to young players.
Why are Carlisle behaving badly in asking for a fee for him? They have invested time and money in Tom Taiwo including a transfer fee only 2 seasons ago and are trying to protect there investment. The player himself hasn't helped and has severely limited his options. He is a young player still with potential,has played all games for them, and has value.

Would you be happy if City decided to let Nahki Wells go for nothing at the end of the season, just because his heads got too big decided he won't sign a contract?

If City can't agree a fee with Carlise, they would ask a tribunal to intervene who would set a fair price in this situation.Why haven't they done that?... probably cos they want him for nothing.

lonniejockstrap says...
11:32pm Mon 20 Aug 12

shaun from richmond wrote:
Really looking forward to tomorows game!
BLIMEY...We couldnt ask for an easier 1st home game....
Even "deadbeat" cant mess this one up!!
I would have thought that Exeter or Burton at home would have been arguably easier 1st game at home based on their latest performances. Having said that, if the players ever go on the pitch expecting an easy game then we deserve to get beat. No such thing as an easy game before we have even kicked off. At the end we'll know how easy it was Shaun. Maybe you could tell us why you rate Fleetwood as the worst team in League 2?

settler07 says...
6:42am Tue 21 Aug 12

northyorksbantam wrote:
settler07 wrote:
What a shame. We are so close to having an awesome squad. But i think we will be proved to be short in central midfield. TAIWO is too good to miss out on. But a shame Carlisle behaving so badly. No chance i'd let my lad go there (currently on Burnley's books) if they are prepared to do this to young players.
Why are Carlisle behaving badly in asking for a fee for him? They have invested time and money in Tom Taiwo including a transfer fee only 2 seasons ago and are trying to protect there investment. The player himself hasn't helped and has severely limited his options. He is a young player still with potential,has played all games for them, and has value.

Would you be happy if City decided to let Nahki Wells go for nothing at the end of the season, just because his heads got too big decided he won't sign a contract?

If City can't agree a fee with Carlise, they would ask a tribunal to intervene who would set a fair price in this situation.Why haven't they done that?... probably cos they want him for nothing.
....because they accepted his reasons for wanting to move closer to home and said he could go with their bkessings. Now they are preventing him from playing because clubs in the lower leagues havent got transfer money. Plus he was spotted and developed by Leeds and Chelsea. If he was a product of Carlisles youth system i'd think differently.

shaun from richmond says...
11:54am Tue 21 Aug 12

lonniejockstrap wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote: Really looking forward to tomorows game! BLIMEY...We couldnt ask for an easier 1st home game.... Even "deadbeat" cant mess this one up!!
I would have thought that Exeter or Burton at home would have been arguably easier 1st game at home based on their latest performances. Having said that, if the players ever go on the pitch expecting an easy game then we deserve to get beat. No such thing as an easy game before we have even kicked off. At the end we'll know how easy it was Shaun. Maybe you could tell us why you rate Fleetwood as the worst team in League 2?
I didnt say the worst!.....They would be in my worst 5 though!
SO....If we cant beat Fleetwood at home, first game of the season, everyone UP FOR IT...including me!
Then....GOD HELP US!!

Prisoner Cell Block A says...
12:10pm Tue 21 Aug 12

lonniejockstrap wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
Really looking forward to tomorows game!
BLIMEY...We couldnt ask for an easier 1st home game....
Even "deadbeat" cant mess this one up!!
I would have thought that Exeter or Burton at home would have been arguably easier 1st game at home based on their latest performances. Having said that, if the players ever go on the pitch expecting an easy game then we deserve to get beat. No such thing as an easy game before we have even kicked off. At the end we'll know how easy it was Shaun. Maybe you could tell us why you rate Fleetwood as the worst team in League 2?
I could tell you how he rates them so badly, it comes from a position of idiocy in the main, futility thrown in and blatant WUMMING.

LuvFootball says...
1:40pm Tue 21 Aug 12

Fantastic, no loan players and strengthening players from other clubs. This is how it should be done, the parent club benefits, the loanee club doesn't. We have a squad assembled with some very interesting signings this off season, plus what everybody forgets and then moans about when they realise later on in the season, we have youngsters coming through and give them a chance as the season progresses.

mickcbcfc says...
5:58pm Tue 21 Aug 12

here we go again. blah blah yak yak 1st gamers of the season. parky out. ffs get a grip takes time for a team to gel. look at man u. lost 1st game. thay wanting fergie out?
bunch of no hopers you lot are.

lonniejockstrap says...
12:38am Wed 22 Aug 12

shaun from richmond wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote: Really looking forward to tomorows game! BLIMEY...We couldnt ask for an easier 1st home game.... Even "deadbeat" cant mess this one up!!
I would have thought that Exeter or Burton at home would have been arguably easier 1st game at home based on their latest performances. Having said that, if the players ever go on the pitch expecting an easy game then we deserve to get beat. No such thing as an easy game before we have even kicked off. At the end we'll know how easy it was Shaun. Maybe you could tell us why you rate Fleetwood as the worst team in League 2?
I didnt say the worst!.....They would be in my worst 5 though!
SO....If we cant beat Fleetwood at home, first game of the season, everyone UP FOR IT...including me!
Then....GOD HELP US!!
Shaun, wouldn't the worst team amount to the easiest game at home for us? Don't understand your logic. How can you claim we couldn't have an easier home game unless we were playing the worst team? It's classed as insinuation Shaun! You insinuated Fleetwood were the worst team. And if you want to tell us who the other 4 on your list are we will see where they are at the end of the season and see how good you are as a football pundit. Of course, before the games tonight the worst 5 -after just 1 game- were the bottom 5 because that's where they were position wise. And Fleetwood weren't in the bottom 5.

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