Bradford City boss Parkinson: Hard graft only way to success (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Bradford City boss Phil Parkinson: Hard graft only way to success
6:30am Friday 17th August 2012 in Bantams
By Simon Parker, Bradford City Reporter
Phil Parkinson says City must earn the right to succeed
Phil Parkinson launches City’s latest bid to break out of the Football League basement tomorrow by reminding everyone: We have no divine right to succeed.
The trip to Gillingham kicks off their sixth season in a row in League Two – only Barnet and Accrington have currently been in the division longer.
Parkinson’s impressive summer signings have raised hopes that this could finally be City’s year and that optimism was further fuelled by the Capital One Cup win at Notts County.
But the Valley Parade chief stressed that nothing will be achieved on reputation alone.
He said: “It’s good to have that expectation around but every other club in the division is the same at this moment. Let’s be careful of that.
“We’ve got some good players but there are a lot of strong teams in this division. People always think Bradford have got a divine right but it doesn’t work like that.
“Too many times in the past people have thought that Bradford should be up there just because they are a big club. But we have to work exceptionally hard in every game to earn the right to do anything.
“We’ve got to work harder than every team we face, work harder in our preparation and in our training. Put simply, we have to work harder in every department of the football club to bring success.”
Parkinson has overhauled the squad since the end of last season with nine captures. Work also began this week on two new training pitches – an area he believes is vital to provide more solid foundations.
“This club has been down for too long – in fact we’re lucky we stayed in the league.
“There are reasons why we’re down here and we are trying to rectify those. We feel we’re on the right way to doing that in terms of the players brought in and getting the structure right behind the scenes.
“That has to be done to get the best out of the squad we’ve got as well as improve the young players at the club.
“You need that platform if you’re going to be successful. Without it, you’re nothing so I’m pleased we are progressing.”
Parkinson will check today on the fitness of Ritchie Jones and Andrew Davies. But he must be tempted to stick with the same side that played so well at Meadow Lane.
He knows Martin Allen well from their time together with Reading and is well aware what City can expect from the Priestfield Stadium. Gillingham, like City, are coming off a cup win after stunning Championship club Bristol City.
Parkinson added: “I saw Gillingham play Tuesday and they were right on it. It’s going to be a good game between two confident sides and we’re going to have to be very organised and competitive.
“Martin’s a good manager and someone I’ve worked with before at Reading. He’s got a proven record but I can’t wait to do battle with him.
“It’s a tough one but the lads are relishing it. Notts County away was a tough fixture on paper and we came through that.
“It’s about how we want to play, sticking to it and giving ourselves the best possible chance of winning.”
Comments(32)
ALEXIMO.56.
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7:15am Fri 17 Aug 12
Hoggy64 wrote:Morning pal. I like your possitive thinking and it makes a change from all the negative posts. You may remember my posts before last xmas, while everyone was very negative, I said that I believe that PP is the right man for the job and that last season was for rebuilding and this season we WILL win promotion. I still stand by my statement. At W. Hills we are 5/1 to win promotion and 20/1 to win the Lg. Those are great odds if you fancy a little flutter and I have just received some dosh from my ppi. and might just stick a Ton on each bet. That's how confident I am. c.t.i.d.
Playoffs at least would be good. Would be nice to focus on the top end of the table for a change!
With this squad I reckon we've got our best chance for a while.
huggy b
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8:15am Fri 17 Aug 12
Spenvalleyspartan
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8:20am Fri 17 Aug 12
ALEXIMO.56. wrote:I like your optimism mate but don't be blowing that well earned PPI just yet! We've recruited well yes but win the league? Really? I fear we do not have the strength in depth and coupled with our annual bad luck with injuries the merry go round of loanees will be implemented just like our previous 6 seasons in this depressing division! Another multi purpose winger to play right and put Reid under pressure is required and another central midfielder! Maybe then and only then think about investing that precious PPI!!!
Hoggy64 wrote:Morning pal. I like your possitive thinking and it makes a change from all the negative posts. You may remember my posts before last xmas, while everyone was very negative, I said that I believe that PP is the right man for the job and that last season was for rebuilding and this season we WILL win promotion. I still stand by my statement. At W. Hills we are 5/1 to win promotion and 20/1 to win the Lg. Those are great odds if you fancy a little flutter and I have just received some dosh from my ppi. and might just stick a Ton on each bet. That's how confident I am. c.t.i.d.
Playoffs at least would be good. Would be nice to focus on the top end of the table for a change!
With this squad I reckon we've got our best chance for a while.
LuvFootball
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9:18am Fri 17 Aug 12
PP is the man to start the ball rollng and then give it a big boot. Come on City, promotion this season, but at worst I think we won't be that far away from that 7th place. Top 10 at worst, but I really do fancy us playing 3rd division football next season and staying up with PP.
1 bingley bantam
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10:26am Fri 17 Aug 12
ALEXIMO.56. wrote:Got to agree am the most optimistic about our chances of getting out of this god forsaken league than i have been in years.Brought some great players in could just do with another couple ideally Hines and Taiwo to give us a bit more strength/competiton.
Hoggy64 wrote: Playoffs at least would be good. Would be nice to focus on the top end of the table for a change! With this squad I reckon we've got our best chance for a while.Morning pal. I like your possitive thinking and it makes a change from all the negative posts. You may remember my posts before last xmas, while everyone was very negative, I said that I believe that PP is the right man for the job and that last season was for rebuilding and this season we WILL win promotion. I still stand by my statement. At W. Hills we are 5/1 to win promotion and 20/1 to win the Lg. Those are great odds if you fancy a little flutter and I have just received some dosh from my ppi. and might just stick a Ton on each bet. That's how confident I am. c.t.i.d.
Bit concerned about Davies doesnt seem to have played too much in pre season ill then injured hope hes ok as i feel him and G.Jones could be massive for us this season.
Bring on the Gills beat them and were off to a flyer COME ON CITY!!
CTID
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10:46am Fri 17 Aug 12
Let's get behind them and do our part even, especially, when it's not going our way.
C'mon City, this is your year!
E I E I E I O...
tyker2
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10:49am Fri 17 Aug 12
Wonder how discussions are going with Carlisle?
shaun from richmond
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10:52am Fri 17 Aug 12
However.....New Season and all that.....Lets hope the "Brains Trust" can get us out of this division.
Thee Voice of Reason
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11:05am Fri 17 Aug 12
I truely think we will be at the right end of the table but I am also wary of other teams who appear to have come on leaps and bounds. I don't expect Northampton to be down the bottom end of the league this year either.
My head says a 7th place finish, my heart says 1st as it always does.
Worse case I expect is no lower than 12th.
audal
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11:10am Fri 17 Aug 12
ing whatever but after supporting city for the last 55 seasons i have a right to state that finishing in 7th place can hardly be described as being a success, automatic promotion is the priority of this club and the sooner we get that mental attitude implanted in to EVERYBODY'S way of thinking the better. I will be disappointed to finish as low as 7th place but i will still keep coming back again and again etc. best wishes to everyone this season. cheers.
LuvFootball
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1:01pm Fri 17 Aug 12
audal wrote:It would actually be better financially to finish 7th and get promoted than it would be to finish 1st and get promoted automatically.
Call me negative,moaning,bor
ing whatever but after supporting city for the last 55 seasons i have a right to state that finishing in 7th place can hardly be described as being a success, automatic promotion is the priority of this club and the sooner we get that mental attitude implanted in to EVERYBODY'S way of thinking the better. I will be disappointed to finish as low as 7th place but i will still keep coming back again and again etc. best wishes to everyone this season. cheers.
Propriority is to get promoted by any means, the best thing would be to win the play off final at Wembley which would be an awesome day out, one that I wouldn't miss for the world.
I may be wrong, but am I right in thinking that City has never lost at Wembley?
LuvFootball
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1:09pm Fri 17 Aug 12
LuvFootball wrote:Soz, terrible typo mistake I meant priority.
audal wrote:It would actually be better financially to finish 7th and get promoted than it would be to finish 1st and get promoted automatically.
Call me negative,moaning,bor
ing whatever but after supporting city for the last 55 seasons i have a right to state that finishing in 7th place can hardly be described as being a success, automatic promotion is the priority of this club and the sooner we get that mental attitude implanted in to EVERYBODY'S way of thinking the better. I will be disappointed to finish as low as 7th place but i will still keep coming back again and again etc. best wishes to everyone this season. cheers.
Propriority is to get promoted by any means, the best thing would be to win the play off final at Wembley which would be an awesome day out, one that I wouldn't miss for the world.
I may be wrong, but am I right in thinking that City has never lost at Wembley?
Cityman23
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1:25pm Fri 17 Aug 12
On the contrary I would say many feel almost that any 'chink of light' is likely to be a 'flash in the pan' or a 'false dawn!'
We may have a much better squad this term-we'll only have a better idea after about a dozen games, but many have the 'view', "We'll believe when we see it" Some may accuse people with this thinking of being cynical or negative but, in truth it's really MORE about 'self-preservation' and 'insulation against disappointment/pain' of which there's been quite a lot over (too many) recent years!
All supporters wish for the best but dread the worst-with City it's been more ike vice versa!! Perhaps this year will REALLY bring about the 'flip' in fortunes needed to change attitudes/achieve 'success.'
To be honest, I always speak up for the 'City Fan' because, considering what we've had to put up with fpr many sasons-there's STILL A LOT OF US AROUND, going to games/spending money that benefits the club.
Some clubs say they've got 'the best fans in the world' but these are usually the ones winning trophies every other year. I would suggest THAT honour should always go to clubs whose supporters have to live with an awful lot more 'thin than thick'. (Which has been the 'lot' of the Bantams' fan for most of BCAFC's history!)
So, in conclusion, there's no need, Mr P to tell us to be 'patient'/be 'ready for the long haul' and 'Not to count our chickens'!!
The truth is...THAT'S OUR DEFAULT POSITION!
Meat Pie
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1:47pm Fri 17 Aug 12
We will achieve nothing if we play like we did for most of last year - there were games when I and many others could easily have fallen asleep - we were dreadful at times.
There was the home game last season when we had 17,000 people in in and the team hardly had a shot - a golden chance to win some new fans and get people back in through the gates was missed - all due to PP's negative tactics.
We will win nothing by setting out a team to try to keep the point it has at KO - I genuinely hope PP has learnt that lesson.
We need to play attractive and attacking football - if we do that then I am confident we can have a good season and do well but if we play as defensively and negatively as I suspect PP likes his teams to play then I am afraid we are in for more of the same.
Need to get off to a winning start - let's hope we do that at Gillingham tomorrow.
CTID
KnightMcCall
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2:05pm Fri 17 Aug 12
Meat Pie wrote:Give it a rest meatpie. Manager's set their team up to do a job. Just because there are 17000 in the stadium does not mean that you put entertainment over getting a result. If we had played Kevin Keegan style and lost 4-3 you would still have had a moan. PP set us up based on the situation at the time and based on the players that were available to him. He will continue to do this as that is his job. He has recruited his own team now and will be held to account in due course based on how well the team do on the pitch. Over the course of last season we became harder to beat; won a few cup games which brought some excitement and didn't get relegated.That was the mandate he was given at the time. No doubt he is expected to fulfill different criteria this season and play offs are probably the minimum level for the season to be considered a success. However, there are many things beyond PP's control so quit trying to lay all of the blame at this door when it doesn't go well; it's boring.
Firstly, we have been favourites most years to win promotion whilst in the 4th Division. I have no idea why though must be due to us consistently having the largest crowds in the division though clearly large crowds do not always influence to that extent or we would have been promoted years ago. We will achieve nothing if we play like we did for most of last year - there were games when I and many others could easily have fallen asleep - we were dreadful at times. There was the home game last season when we had 17,000 people in in and the team hardly had a shot - a golden chance to win some new fans and get people back in through the gates was missed - all due to PP's negative tactics. We will win nothing by setting out a team to try to keep the point it has at KO - I genuinely hope PP has learnt that lesson. We need to play attractive and attacking football - if we do that then I am confident we can have a good season and do well but if we play as defensively and negatively as I suspect PP likes his teams to play then I am afraid we are in for more of the same. Need to get off to a winning start - let's hope we do that at Gillingham tomorrow. CTID
KnightMcCall
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2:08pm Fri 17 Aug 12
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:That does sound reasonable. As long as people do not think that everything rides on the result tomorrow. A win will not mean we are going up and a loss will not mean it's a disaster. A draw would, in my eyes, be a good start.
I'm not against those who are positive or negative but I would state my view is one of being quietly optimistic about the coming season. I truely think we will be at the right end of the table but I am also wary of other teams who appear to have come on leaps and bounds. I don't expect Northampton to be down the bottom end of the league this year either. My head says a 7th place finish, my heart says 1st as it always does. Worse case I expect is no lower than 12th.
Meat Pie
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3:02pm Fri 17 Aug 12
KnightMcCall wrote:The game in question was against Hereford who were relegated last season and from memory hadn't won in months when we played them - so he set his team up to do a job then did he? We drew that game 1-1 when we should have gone for it and attacked.
Meat Pie wrote: Firstly, we have been favourites most years to win promotion whilst in the 4th Division. I have no idea why though must be due to us consistently having the largest crowds in the division though clearly large crowds do not always influence to that extent or we would have been promoted years ago. We will achieve nothing if we play like we did for most of last year - there were games when I and many others could easily have fallen asleep - we were dreadful at times. There was the home game last season when we had 17,000 people in in and the team hardly had a shot - a golden chance to win some new fans and get people back in through the gates was missed - all due to PP's negative tactics. We will win nothing by setting out a team to try to keep the point it has at KO - I genuinely hope PP has learnt that lesson. We need to play attractive and attacking football - if we do that then I am confident we can have a good season and do well but if we play as defensively and negatively as I suspect PP likes his teams to play then I am afraid we are in for more of the same. Need to get off to a winning start - let's hope we do that at Gillingham tomorrow. CTIDGive it a rest meatpie. Manager's set their team up to do a job. Just because there are 17000 in the stadium does not mean that you put entertainment over getting a result. If we had played Kevin Keegan style and lost 4-3 you would still have had a moan. PP set us up based on the situation at the time and based on the players that were available to him. He will continue to do this as that is his job. He has recruited his own team now and will be held to account in due course based on how well the team do on the pitch. Over the course of last season we became harder to beat; won a few cup games which brought some excitement and didn't get relegated.That was the mandate he was given at the time. No doubt he is expected to fulfill different criteria this season and play offs are probably the minimum level for the season to be considered a success. However, there are many things beyond PP's control so quit trying to lay all of the blame at this door when it doesn't go well; it's boring.
What hope have we got if we are fearful of a team at the bottom and who ended up relegated - that's the point I was trying to make and if PP changes this season then great. If he doesn't we will see more of what we had last year.
I do know (and have heard from a Board member) that PP was taken to task about this performance in front of 17,000 people by the Board so they to (his employers!) would seem to agree.
We didn't play "Kevin Keegan style" and didn't lose 4-3 so not sure what point you are trying to make?
PP sets his team up to play his way - who else would you suggest is accountable for their performances then?
LS9BANTAM
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3:15pm Fri 17 Aug 12
Meat Pie wrote:what hope have we got if we draw with a team near the bottom..hang on..didnt swindon draw both games with a lowly team 0 - 0 ?
KnightMcCall wrote:The game in question was against Hereford who were relegated last season and from memory hadn't won in months when we played them - so he set his team up to do a job then did he? We drew that game 1-1 when we should have gone for it and attacked.
Meat Pie wrote: Firstly, we have been favourites most years to win promotion whilst in the 4th Division. I have no idea why though must be due to us consistently having the largest crowds in the division though clearly large crowds do not always influence to that extent or we would have been promoted years ago. We will achieve nothing if we play like we did for most of last year - there were games when I and many others could easily have fallen asleep - we were dreadful at times. There was the home game last season when we had 17,000 people in in and the team hardly had a shot - a golden chance to win some new fans and get people back in through the gates was missed - all due to PP's negative tactics. We will win nothing by setting out a team to try to keep the point it has at KO - I genuinely hope PP has learnt that lesson. We need to play attractive and attacking football - if we do that then I am confident we can have a good season and do well but if we play as defensively and negatively as I suspect PP likes his teams to play then I am afraid we are in for more of the same. Need to get off to a winning start - let's hope we do that at Gillingham tomorrow. CTIDGive it a rest meatpie. Manager's set their team up to do a job. Just because there are 17000 in the stadium does not mean that you put entertainment over getting a result. If we had played Kevin Keegan style and lost 4-3 you would still have had a moan. PP set us up based on the situation at the time and based on the players that were available to him. He will continue to do this as that is his job. He has recruited his own team now and will be held to account in due course based on how well the team do on the pitch. Over the course of last season we became harder to beat; won a few cup games which brought some excitement and didn't get relegated.That was the mandate he was given at the time. No doubt he is expected to fulfill different criteria this season and play offs are probably the minimum level for the season to be considered a success. However, there are many things beyond PP's control so quit trying to lay all of the blame at this door when it doesn't go well; it's boring.
What hope have we got if we are fearful of a team at the bottom and who ended up relegated - that's the point I was trying to make and if PP changes this season then great. If he doesn't we will see more of what we had last year.
I do know (and have heard from a Board member) that PP was taken to task about this performance in front of 17,000 people by the Board so they to (his employers!) would seem to agree.
We didn't play "Kevin Keegan style" and didn't lose 4-3 so not sure what point you are trying to make?
PP sets his team up to play his way - who else would you suggest is accountable for their performances then?
CTID
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3:37pm Fri 17 Aug 12
shaun from richmond wrote:http://img.metro.co.
In "Deadbeat" I DO NOT TRUST!!. However.....New Season and all that.....Lets hope the "Brains Trust" can get us out of this division.
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CTID
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3:42pm Fri 17 Aug 12
Chin up boys, I think (hope to God!) you may be pleasantly surprised by both our style of play and, at the very least, results this season.
Fingers crossed, eh?
ALEXIMO.56.
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3:44pm Fri 17 Aug 12
Pablo
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3:49pm Fri 17 Aug 12
Meat Pie wrote:Excellent post, Meat Pie.
Firstly, we have been favourites most years to win promotion whilst in the 4th Division. I have no idea why though must be due to us consistently having the largest crowds in the division though clearly large crowds do not always influence to that extent or we would have been promoted years ago.
We will achieve nothing if we play like we did for most of last year - there were games when I and many others could easily have fallen asleep - we were dreadful at times.
There was the home game last season when we had 17,000 people in in and the team hardly had a shot - a golden chance to win some new fans and get people back in through the gates was missed - all due to PP's negative tactics.
We will win nothing by setting out a team to try to keep the point it has at KO - I genuinely hope PP has learnt that lesson.
We need to play attractive and attacking football - if we do that then I am confident we can have a good season and do well but if we play as defensively and negatively as I suspect PP likes his teams to play then I am afraid we are in for more of the same.
Need to get off to a winning start - let's hope we do that at Gillingham tomorrow.
CTID
The Hereford game was a PR disaster, with spectators, who'd only paid £1, asking Stewards to let them out of the ground, at half time, claiming they'd been short changed!
Last year under PP was terrible. As I've previously stated, the 50/50 scheme means a different approach will have to be adopted this year, to attract the paying fans, who opted out of the season ticket offer.
Let's hope we can get a good start to boost interest and see if we can attract gates of 13,000+ to provide some real atmosphere in the ground and a financial benefit too.
KnightMcCall
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3:53pm Fri 17 Aug 12
Meat Pie wrote:Oh I forget; it's easy being a football manager isn't it. You just look at where the opposition are in the table and the lower they are the more attacking you can be. It doesn't matter if some of your key players are injured or suspended or if the opposition are fighting for their lives and set up very defensively because there were 17000 people there so how can we not win...
KnightMcCall wrote:The game in question was against Hereford who were relegated last season and from memory hadn't won in months when we played them - so he set his team up to do a job then did he? We drew that game 1-1 when we should have gone for it and attacked. What hope have we got if we are fearful of a team at the bottom and who ended up relegated - that's the point I was trying to make and if PP changes this season then great. If he doesn't we will see more of what we had last year. I do know (and have heard from a Board member) that PP was taken to task about this performance in front of 17,000 people by the Board so they to (his employers!) would seem to agree. We didn't play "Kevin Keegan style" and didn't lose 4-3 so not sure what point you are trying to make? PP sets his team up to play his way - who else would you suggest is accountable for their performances then?Meat Pie wrote: Firstly, we have been favourites most years to win promotion whilst in the 4th Division. I have no idea why though must be due to us consistently having the largest crowds in the division though clearly large crowds do not always influence to that extent or we would have been promoted years ago. We will achieve nothing if we play like we did for most of last year - there were games when I and many others could easily have fallen asleep - we were dreadful at times. There was the home game last season when we had 17,000 people in in and the team hardly had a shot - a golden chance to win some new fans and get people back in through the gates was missed - all due to PP's negative tactics. We will win nothing by setting out a team to try to keep the point it has at KO - I genuinely hope PP has learnt that lesson. We need to play attractive and attacking football - if we do that then I am confident we can have a good season and do well but if we play as defensively and negatively as I suspect PP likes his teams to play then I am afraid we are in for more of the same. Need to get off to a winning start - let's hope we do that at Gillingham tomorrow. CTIDGive it a rest meatpie. Manager's set their team up to do a job. Just because there are 17000 in the stadium does not mean that you put entertainment over getting a result. If we had played Kevin Keegan style and lost 4-3 you would still have had a moan. PP set us up based on the situation at the time and based on the players that were available to him. He will continue to do this as that is his job. He has recruited his own team now and will be held to account in due course based on how well the team do on the pitch. Over the course of last season we became harder to beat; won a few cup games which brought some excitement and didn't get relegated.That was the mandate he was given at the time. No doubt he is expected to fulfill different criteria this season and play offs are probably the minimum level for the season to be considered a success. However, there are many things beyond PP's control so quit trying to lay all of the blame at this door when it doesn't go well; it's boring.
it also doesn't seem to matter that this was one of a run of 15 home games where we lost only ONCE; or that we won the two away matches that sanwiched this performance. PP really mustn't have a clue and you should be made manager.
Who else should be accountable for the performances? err, the footballers maybe with some credit for the 11 players on the opposition team who are desperately trying to stop you perhaps...
CTID
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4:01pm Fri 17 Aug 12
KnightMcCall wrote:Bravo KM, bravo
Meat Pie wrote:Oh I forget; it's easy being a football manager isn't it. You just look at where the opposition are in the table and the lower they are the more attacking you can be. It doesn't matter if some of your key players are injured or suspended or if the opposition are fighting for their lives and set up very defensively because there were 17000 people there so how can we not win... it also doesn't seem to matter that this was one of a run of 15 home games where we lost only ONCE; or that we won the two away matches that sanwiched this performance. PP really mustn't have a clue and you should be made manager. Who else should be accountable for the performances? err, the footballers maybe with some credit for the 11 players on the opposition team who are desperately trying to stop you perhaps...KnightMcCall wrote:The game in question was against Hereford who were relegated last season and from memory hadn't won in months when we played them - so he set his team up to do a job then did he? We drew that game 1-1 when we should have gone for it and attacked. What hope have we got if we are fearful of a team at the bottom and who ended up relegated - that's the point I was trying to make and if PP changes this season then great. If he doesn't we will see more of what we had last year. I do know (and have heard from a Board member) that PP was taken to task about this performance in front of 17,000 people by the Board so they to (his employers!) would seem to agree. We didn't play "Kevin Keegan style" and didn't lose 4-3 so not sure what point you are trying to make? PP sets his team up to play his way - who else would you suggest is accountable for their performances then?Meat Pie wrote: Firstly, we have been favourites most years to win promotion whilst in the 4th Division. I have no idea why though must be due to us consistently having the largest crowds in the division though clearly large crowds do not always influence to that extent or we would have been promoted years ago. We will achieve nothing if we play like we did for most of last year - there were games when I and many others could easily have fallen asleep - we were dreadful at times. There was the home game last season when we had 17,000 people in in and the team hardly had a shot - a golden chance to win some new fans and get people back in through the gates was missed - all due to PP's negative tactics. We will win nothing by setting out a team to try to keep the point it has at KO - I genuinely hope PP has learnt that lesson. We need to play attractive and attacking football - if we do that then I am confident we can have a good season and do well but if we play as defensively and negatively as I suspect PP likes his teams to play then I am afraid we are in for more of the same. Need to get off to a winning start - let's hope we do that at Gillingham tomorrow. CTIDGive it a rest meatpie. Manager's set their team up to do a job. Just because there are 17000 in the stadium does not mean that you put entertainment over getting a result. If we had played Kevin Keegan style and lost 4-3 you would still have had a moan. PP set us up based on the situation at the time and based on the players that were available to him. He will continue to do this as that is his job. He has recruited his own team now and will be held to account in due course based on how well the team do on the pitch. Over the course of last season we became harder to beat; won a few cup games which brought some excitement and didn't get relegated.That was the mandate he was given at the time. No doubt he is expected to fulfill different criteria this season and play offs are probably the minimum level for the season to be considered a success. However, there are many things beyond PP's control so quit trying to lay all of the blame at this door when it doesn't go well; it's boring.
Pablo
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4:21pm Fri 17 Aug 12
KnightMcCall wrote:...he's back in style!
Meat Pie wrote:Oh I forget; it's easy being a football manager isn't it. You just look at where the opposition are in the table and the lower they are the more attacking you can be. It doesn't matter if some of your key players are injured or suspended or if the opposition are fighting for their lives and set up very defensively because there were 17000 people there so how can we not win...
KnightMcCall wrote:The game in question was against Hereford who were relegated last season and from memory hadn't won in months when we played them - so he set his team up to do a job then did he? We drew that game 1-1 when we should have gone for it and attacked. What hope have we got if we are fearful of a team at the bottom and who ended up relegated - that's the point I was trying to make and if PP changes this season then great. If he doesn't we will see more of what we had last year. I do know (and have heard from a Board member) that PP was taken to task about this performance in front of 17,000 people by the Board so they to (his employers!) would seem to agree. We didn't play "Kevin Keegan style" and didn't lose 4-3 so not sure what point you are trying to make? PP sets his team up to play his way - who else would you suggest is accountable for their performances then?Meat Pie wrote: Firstly, we have been favourites most years to win promotion whilst in the 4th Division. I have no idea why though must be due to us consistently having the largest crowds in the division though clearly large crowds do not always influence to that extent or we would have been promoted years ago. We will achieve nothing if we play like we did for most of last year - there were games when I and many others could easily have fallen asleep - we were dreadful at times. There was the home game last season when we had 17,000 people in in and the team hardly had a shot - a golden chance to win some new fans and get people back in through the gates was missed - all due to PP's negative tactics. We will win nothing by setting out a team to try to keep the point it has at KO - I genuinely hope PP has learnt that lesson. We need to play attractive and attacking football - if we do that then I am confident we can have a good season and do well but if we play as defensively and negatively as I suspect PP likes his teams to play then I am afraid we are in for more of the same. Need to get off to a winning start - let's hope we do that at Gillingham tomorrow. CTIDGive it a rest meatpie. Manager's set their team up to do a job. Just because there are 17000 in the stadium does not mean that you put entertainment over getting a result. If we had played Kevin Keegan style and lost 4-3 you would still have had a moan. PP set us up based on the situation at the time and based on the players that were available to him. He will continue to do this as that is his job. He has recruited his own team now and will be held to account in due course based on how well the team do on the pitch. Over the course of last season we became harder to beat; won a few cup games which brought some excitement and didn't get relegated.That was the mandate he was given at the time. No doubt he is expected to fulfill different criteria this season and play offs are probably the minimum level for the season to be considered a success. However, there are many things beyond PP's control so quit trying to lay all of the blame at this door when it doesn't go well; it's boring.
it also doesn't seem to matter that this was one of a run of 15 home games where we lost only ONCE; or that we won the two away matches that sanwiched this performance. PP really mustn't have a clue and you should be made manager.
Who else should be accountable for the performances? err, the footballers maybe with some credit for the 11 players on the opposition team who are desperately trying to stop you perhaps...
Trying to defend the indefensible tactics of last year. Don't kid yourself, Hereford wasn't a "one off".
I hope the team plays with style this season and then I'll be wearing rose tinted glasses as well, and I'll end up agreeing with everything you write.
Here's hoping.
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Cityman23
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6:16pm Fri 17 Aug 12
CTID wrote:What was it I said above? Oh yes........"default position"( !!!)
I hope a lot of people on here will be eating humble meat pie during the coming season...
Chin up boys, I think (hope to God!) you may be pleasantly surprised by both our style of play and, at the very least, results this season.
Fingers crossed, eh?
ie 'fingers crossed'!!
Cityman23
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....er...Maybe'!!!)
cullboy
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Bradford1903
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1:57am Sat 18 Aug 12
We've got a good squad on paper, which admitedly still needs a couple of additions, but one that should be challenging for promotion.
We've been here before though; in McCall's 2nd season we had a squad that I believe should've finished in the top 3, and in Taylor's 2nd term we had a team that was capable of challenging for the play offs, yet we failed miserably on both occasions.
The greatest challenge Parkinson has for me, is to get the team playing to somewhere near their full potential, which he wasn't able to do last season, and is something in my opinion, that all the managers' since we've been in this Division have also failed to do.
I think at times last season we looked a decent side, but what undermined us was this safety 1st approach, particularly away from home, against teams usually below us in the table, that we should've been capable of beating, possibly fearful of the repercussions of a defeat.
Hopefully this season, the repercussions won't be as great, and will lead us to being more positive in these types of games, which if we are, there is no reason why we can't be up there challenging; but I've said that a few times before.

Hoggy64 says...
6:56am Fri 17 Aug 12
With this squad I reckon we've got our best chance for a while.