Wat a deflating cup reward for Bradford City (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Repeat trip to face Watford nothing to get excited about for Bradford City
8:30am Thursday 16th August 2012 in Bantams
By Simon Parker, Bradford City Reporter
James Hanson celebrates equalising for City at Watford in the FA Cup third round last season
Phil Parkinson insists City’s FA Cup loss at Watford will have no bearing at all on their Capital One rematch.
The Bantams must go to Vicarage Road for the second time in seven months following yesterday’s draw for round two.
It was a deflating outcome for all concerned as the club, who have grown used to cup letdowns, once again missed out on a potential money-spinner against Premier League opposition.
Instead they will face the same Championship outfit that dumped them out of the FA Cup in January.
Watford ran out 4-2 winners, despite goals from James Hanson and Nahki Wells, but Parkinson will not read too much into it.
“It’s going to be a very different game because the teams have both changed a lot,” he said. “Watford have got a new manager and new players and we have made a lot of changes over the summer.
“So I don’t think it will bear too much relation on what happened before.”
The Hornets are now managed by Gianfranco Zola, who succeeded Sean Dyche six weeks ago after the Italian Pozzo family took over the club.
City will start clear underdogs in the tie – which is likely to take place on Tuesday, August 28 – but Parkinson believes they can upset the odds as they did at Notts County.
“Of course we’d have preferred to be at home and it’s not the ideal draw for us,” he said.
“But when the game comes around, I know we will be up for it and ready to give it a real go. We put in a very good performance against Notts County and I’m sure we can do that again.”
City have also dismissed Carlisle claims that they are back in talks for Tom Taiwo.
The former Leeds youngster, who is looking to join a Yorkshire club to stay near his young family, appeared in the opening pre-season friendly at Tadcaster.
But City dropped their interest when the League One club slapped a six-figure compensation fee on the 22-year-old midfielder, believed to be over £200,000.
Despite leaving Carlisle at the end of last season, they are continuing to pay Taiwo until the end of the month to protect their interests for the amount of compensation that will be due for his development.
It was reported in Cumbria that City were still hopeful of coming to a compromise agreement and had made contact again – but the Bantams insist that is not the case.
A Valley Parade source said: “We’re not talking to Carlisle. There’s nothing in any of it.”
Comments(25)
LuvFootball
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10:20am Thu 16 Aug 12
I should hope there is for the travelling support.
I would have loved Town at home, but OH they ain't still in the cup.
Spenvalleyspartan
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10:21am Thu 16 Aug 12
cookie_brighton
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10:35am Thu 16 Aug 12
ge is sweet, and as we know P.P. has brought in a lot of new players......nothing to get excited about your heading says.......well i certainy am, we only lost 4- 2 to them in january.
I read yesterday, at , newsnow.co.uk a story which was in The Carlisle News and Star.....that City HAD opened talks with carlisle again with reference to Tiawo........so someone between your story and ......The Carlise News and Star story .........are telling PORKYS....and on your previous posts Mr Parker.......I believe the talks are on again.
Can you, for once, post something positive
audal
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10:40am Thu 16 Aug 12
HornetJJ
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10:40am Thu 16 Aug 12
cookie_brighton
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10:49am Thu 16 Aug 12
my thoughts exactly. as I posted earlier revenge is sweet, I envisage it being a good game because of the loss in january and as you stated.......IT IS A CUP GAME. all the best mate and thanks for your comment.
cookie_brighton
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10:50am Thu 16 Aug 12
LuvFootball
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10:56am Thu 16 Aug 12
HornetJJ wrote:It is because of this negativity we have been poor over the last decade and so has the mood. This filters to incoming players and managers, no matter who we get, who we bring in, many around VP actually want something bad to report, something bad to moan at.
What a negative headline! Bradford is hardly the highlight of our season but it's a cup game, you can't choose who you play. Also, it's not like you could have played Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea etc..
Parker gets a lot of stick on here, and rightly so. News is late and out of date, I can read something on newsnow football a couple of days before it is on either here or City's poor official website. Breaking news on here is sometimes a day old. He can be very negative at times in his wording and instead of looking at ways to gee up the mood, he wants everyone to squallor and fester in negativity.
This is why we can not get out of the 4th division, this is why we have had 3 relegation.
If we think negative, we attract negativity, negativity happens.
We love to rip or players apart, we love to rip our managers apart, we love to rip our chairmen apart, we love to rip Flamingo Land apart, we love to rip the Bulls and BPA apart, we love to rip Parker apart, and yet there is not 1 thing that we would love to build. Some may preach on progress, on positivity, but that is drowned out in an ocean of "please shoot me I'm a City fan". We won't get pity from outside of the City, so everyone associated with the city or with City should stop pitying themselves.
Liven up Parker, liven up fellow fans, until we do, we will never achieve what we can achieve.
Do you think all the Manchester papers were reporting that Man U will never sign Van Persie? Do you think the Yorkshire post will repot on negative issues regards Beeston United or other teams around Leeds?
I don't see the connection that we lost to Watford last season, we lost to Notts Co too but it doesn't mean we would have lost to them last weekend. We have lost to every single club that we will play this season but it doesn't mean we will lose every single game.
Got to agree with you HornettJJ and cookie_brighton, poor journalism. I don't know why I come on this site, I always expect a news snippet about something that is not elsewhere, an ex city player or manager on their movements, that signing that Parker may have heard through his links. But I believe his links are through other sports sites rather than getting exclusives straight from the horses mouth. I still can wait in hope.
Hornet23
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11:00am Thu 16 Aug 12
CTID
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11:13am Thu 16 Aug 12
Bearing in mind we could have had 23k watching us smash Dirty L**ds at home, you'll forgive us if we're not jumping through Claret & Amber hoops at the prospect... as one of you pointed out, neither are you.
Also, Cookie, Parker is almost certainly referring to the report appearing on Newsnow yesterday, has asked the club (the journalism people on here so often accuse him of not doing), has got an answer from the club and has presented it to you... I really, really don't get the mentality of the people on here who so quickly look to attack Parker all the time - you (as in the royal you) very clearly don't understand the first thing about journalism.
And also, if we do now turn around and sign Taiwo, that doesn't automatically then mean Parker was lying, or making it up... perhaps the club are bluffing to play hardball with Carlisle (they are in a difficult position if we don't buy him as we are the only suitable club, given his location preference - if we say we aren't interested, it may force them to approach us with a reduced figure.
Anyway, onwards and upwards
E I E I E I O....
cookie_brighton
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11:27am Thu 16 Aug 12
I was born in St Lukes, lived on thorpe edge for the first 27 years of my life, during my teens was mates with Lenny Berry, BCFC city gent mascot..supported city all my life.
So because my name says Brighton do not think i am a southerner.
ctid
Craig
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11:28am Thu 16 Aug 12
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Some very good points by CTID, more or less sums up the feelings of Bradford fans and probably the club.
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Message for the Watford fans, if you can't handle the fact that we don't view you as a big draw, get behind your team and turn out to the game later this month, it should be a walkover shouldn't it? (the money from the gate receipts will be gratefully received too).
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You could also, if as you all claim, you're not that bothered about getting Bradford in the cup either, stop inhabiting a Bradford newspaper website (or are you really a little bit bothered after all?).
CTID
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12:33pm Thu 16 Aug 12
LuvF - I have to say I find your post in itself to be incredibly negative! Which I find strange as your posts are normally level-headed and optimistic... I wouldn't make the mistake of thinking the make-up of many of the commentators on this site is representative of the cross-section of City fans, it's renowned as a hot-bed of negativity - try Claret & Banter, it's a much more thoughtful and representative forum (which is not a dig at this site in itself)
cookie_brighton
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12:42pm Thu 16 Aug 12
My blood is def...claret and amber.
ctid
CTID
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12:51pm Thu 16 Aug 12
cookie_brighton wrote:That's quite alright - I'd not want anyone thinking that of me either... Better safe than sorry!
CTID.....ha ha sorry...was just stating that I was Bradford born....did not want anyone thinking I was a southerner. Its bad enough living with them. My blood is def...claret and amber. ctid
You live down there then? Get to many of the London / South coast games?
irish bantam
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1:57pm Thu 16 Aug 12
Hornet23 wrote:You are the poor little thing....hornet 23, to have to come on the bradford newspaper site and spout about us getting a beating,and where we will finish in the league..........obvi
Poor little Bradford. All that hard work to beat the mighty Notts County only to draw Watford for another beating. Still, the dream of finishing mid-table in League Two is still on guys!
ously i forgot that schools are on holiday and you may be bored by now playing hop scotch with your mates.....be careful what you wish for and lets see for your sake that poor little bradford dont upset you too much this season after we drop you out of the cup and get promoted. I wonder if you would get the support home and away that we do if you were in division 2......(thought not ) now get back to your jigsaw....small club in Luton !!!!.....ctid
LuvFootball
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3:10pm Thu 16 Aug 12
CTID wrote:Thanks CTID, I try and be positive on here and when I am negative I usually have a chunter at the match nut never boo the players on the pitch, ours or the opposition, but don't generally bring it on here or take it out with me elsewhere. I can see how my post can be perceived to be negative, but it is an observation I have had since our 2nd season in the Premiership.
Cookie - not sure where you got the idea I was accusing you of being a southerner - so long as you're a Bantam, that's good enough for me.
LuvF - I have to say I find your post in itself to be incredibly negative! Which I find strange as your posts are normally level-headed and optimistic... I wouldn't make the mistake of thinking the make-up of many of the commentators on this site is representative of the cross-section of City fans, it's renowned as a hot-bed of negativity - try Claret & Banter, it's a much more thoughtful and representative forum (which is not a dig at this site in itself)
I know it isn't the best draw in the world, but what would be? We could have got Beeston and lost, we might win this one and get a couple of quid in the coffers on a cup run, look at the JP trophy last season, in theory apart from Town, they were all horrible draws, but we managed to keep going.
A draw is only an horrible draw if we don't progress. A good draw is where we either get through or get some revenue through the tickets.
This is totally off topic, I have just seen Deano's doppleganger, the brute at the start of the first Crocodile Dundee movie, the big guy called Donk played by Steve Rackman.
tyker2
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4:19pm Thu 16 Aug 12
Anyway. I would prefer us to get an away result ( a draw would do ) at Gillingham and start the steady progress which is expected this season. The signings look good but we look a little weak in mid field and we need Taiwo to add strength and bite
audal
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4:56pm Thu 16 Aug 12
Lloydinio
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5:47pm Thu 16 Aug 12
Bikenshaw Illy
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6:31pm Thu 16 Aug 12
COLATS
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6:31pm Thu 16 Aug 12
Lloydinio wrote:We would also get excited about prem. opposition. But not an away match on a tues. maybe would be a little bit excited if we were at home?? Good luck for the coming season, after we beat u of course hee hee
I'm a Watford supporter and get excited every time we play premiership opposition. I would be excited if o were you. Even though I want Watford to win, I wish you a successful season in league 2
lutondown
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6:51pm Thu 16 Aug 12
COLATS wrote:Sadly these cup games have little attraction anymore, at least until the quarters.
Lloydinio wrote:We would also get excited about prem. opposition. But not an away match on a tues. maybe would be a little bit excited if we were at home?? Good luck for the coming season, after we beat u of course hee hee
I'm a Watford supporter and get excited every time we play premiership opposition. I would be excited if o were you. Even though I want Watford to win, I wish you a successful season in league 2
Good luck for the season, but not against us
Correctness
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9:55am Sat 18 Aug 12
Hornet23 wrote:I think finishing mid table would be more than a dream in fact finishing in botom two wouldn't be a real nightmare for this bunch of wanabees.
Poor little Bradford. All that hard work to beat the mighty Notts County only to draw Watford for another beating. Still, the dream of finishing mid-table in League Two is still on guys!
Zorg the Leveller says...
10:14am Thu 16 Aug 12