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    Jonbantam wrote:
    speakeroftruth wrote:
    Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
    speakeroftruth wrote:
    angry bradfordian wrote:
    barbarian mike wrote:
    Odsal is a superb and iconic venue. Stay there if we can! Don't know why this fella deems it fit for him to throw his opinion in!?
    He's an MP who probably has constituents who are Bulls fans, so he's got a right to air his view. Which particular views do you disagree with? Even the most ardent Bulls fan would find it difficult to call Odsal 'superb' and the dwindling crowds are a testament to that- it's one of the worst 2 or 3 grounds in Super League.
    how many 20,000 crowds have city pulled in recently?
    When we were in the top division of our sport, topped it a few times and was running at an average of approx 18k.

    How many fans would the Bulls be gettingif they were in the RFL equivalent of the 4th division? Not nearly 10k per week I'd hazard to guess.

    Moot point.

    Next!
    My question was how many 20,000 crowds have bradford pulled in recently? not 12 years ago
    and you have still failed to answer that
    Bradford City have an average attendance of 10026 for this season and a quick look on the Bulls website I wouldn`t be too chirpy as bar 3 games the attendance has been sub 10000. City also had over 17000 this season playing Hereford which is much further away than our nearest and dearest with a huge marketing ploy threatening that it would be the last game. The bigger picture here is a huge concern for Bradfordians following their respective teams because we can all have petty squabbles and throw in parking, travel and I do not have a clue why race should come into any sporting debate in 2012. The facts do not lie Bradford City are not the wealthiest club and the Bulls are sadly at present on their backsides and I am not even a bulls fan but still pledged £100 because I have been to the bulls in the past and enjoyed some great games. The sporting public of Bradford need to stop the petty squabbling and move forward a la Hull, Wigan, Huddersfield etc and ensure sport continues in this City as attendances do not win trophies and until both teams can generate good revenue streams we will both be languishing in the lower parts of our respective leagues. Fan power is impressive as both clubs have been saved in the past by the supporters. Grow up and face facts we may not want to play with each others toys but the future is both clubs sharing the same stadium generate revenue for both and putting Bradford sport back on the map as I would rather watch my team in any ground than not have a team at all!
    Rubbish regarding Bulls gates this season.
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    Every SL game (Catalans, no away following) has been over 10k attendance. All bar one over 11k, and one over 20k. Average just under 13k.
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Groundshare makes economic sense for Bradford Bulls and Bantams, says MP

MP David Ward has stirred up the long-running debate over the Bulls moving to Valley Parade, pictured MP David Ward has stirred up the long-running debate over the Bulls moving to Valley Parade, pictured

A Bradford MP today led calls for the Bulls to leave Odsal and make Valley Parade their new permanent home.

Bradford East MP David Ward insisted Odsal will be never be anything other than a “big black hole” in the Bulls’ finances and claimed a groundshare with City held the key to a sustainable future for both clubs.

Ward said the Bulls’ financial crisis was partly due to the cost of being at Odsal and that City were paying an “absolute fortune” in rent to Valley Parade landlord Gordon Gibb. His solution would see both the city’s professional sports clubs play at Valley Parade, with a potential long-term possibility of buying the stadium from Gibb.

Ward told the T&A: “This needs to be raised as a matter of priority in any discussions about the future of the Bulls and City.

“When you are on the terraces at Odsal it’s awesome in terms of a venue, but the cost is bringing the club to its knees.

“Odsal will never be anything other than a big black hole, sucking the resources out of the playing side and detrimental to the development of the club.

When you are on the terraces at Odsal it’s awesome in terms of a venue, but the cost is bringing the club to its knees

David Ward MP

“You have a 25,000-seater, state-of-the-art stadium at Valley Parade and there’s room to develop it further.

“It’s used little more than 23 times a year as things stand and that just does not add up.

“If you look at the success of groundsharing at other clubs then it’s the only way forward. It makes economic sense and it simply has to happen.”

Two years ago, ambitious plans for a £75.5 million Odsal Sports Village were kicked firmly into touch due to a funding crisis.

Earlier this year the Bulls sold the lease on Odsal to the RFL, making them tenants rather than owners of their historic home.

Ward added: “As long as the Bulls stay at Odsal they will always be just sticking plasters over things until the next crisis – it would be throwing good money after bad to stay there.

“If the Odsal Sporting Village had got underway they would have had to move to Valley Parade for at least a couple of seasons anyway.

“Why not just bite the bullet on this one and recognise the economic realities? Whatever happens to Odsal will happen.

“It’s a highly developable part of the city with great links to the motorway, as we know.

“But that’s really a secondary issue. This is not about how the Bulls are going to raise the next £500,000; it’s about the development of both clubs for the next 15 to 20 to 25 years.

“All the economic reality is pointing in one direction. Let’s just get the debate going.

“I actually think many people are put off investing in the Bulls because they regard the stadium as being a lost cause.

“Once you’ve backed that with joint funding, you’ve got a fantastic stadium in Valley Parade as it stands.

“But then you can start talking about the development of that stadium and the surrounding area.

“We need to get some economic regeneration in the city centre and in Manningham – this could kick-start that.”

The Bulls played two seasons at Valley Parade in 2001 and 2002 during the redevelopment of Odsal, the club’s home since 1934.

Ward added: “Maybe it wasn’t particularly friendly when the Bulls were previously there but I know City would be very, very welcoming this time.

“City are paying an absolute fortune every single year in rent to Gordon Gibb.

“Ideally, if both clubs came together then the prospects of buying out Gibb at Valley Parade could be more of a possibility. Then you start to become masters of your own destiny.”

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