Parkinson will not risk progress of Bradford City kids (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Personally thought Rowe Brown and Burns should be on the bench and maybe give them 20 mins or so in a game

Heard a strong rumour that Dave Syers (24) is looking to play cricket in the Bradford League this year, which would mean he is no longer required at City. Is this another one of the fans favourites out of the door?

It would appear that PP doesn’t rate him; perhaps he prefers the less adventurous players or the old rear guard of Ravenhill (31), Flynn (31) and Bullock (30).

I do hope we are not looking at a defensive setup next season; it didn’t work well this season. I will hang on to my season ticket money for the moment, until I hear some encouraging news.

Rowe needs a shot because he is class. Brown needs a shot because when he arrived at the beginning of the season, people were saying he is a 17yo wonderkid who is interesting bigger clubs. And Burns is supposed to be a solid right back (hasn't impressed me when he's been in the 1st team but he must be ok if he's captain most of the time).

If the rumour about Syers leaving is true then Parky needs his head shaking. He's already wound me up enough this season by letting quality prospects like Compton, Moore and Stewart go. As well as solid players like OB and Williams go along with promising impact player's like Stewart. Then we have players who can cross like Mitchell being frozen out completely and replaced with people like Atkinson and Haworth.

Flynn,Seip,Fagan,Atk
inson,Taylor,Fry,Duk
e,Smalley,Reed,Threl
fall have all been rubbish this season and I'd get rid of all the ones left, and bring back our loans eg. Williams and Stewart.

I would also try and sign Moore and Compton and bring back OB.

"Deadbeat" can always resist playing the youngsters!!......BU
T NEVER a loan player or 7 !!

I can not believe that David Syers is leaving City. This makes absolutely no footballing sense. Syers has put in 100 per cent and scored goals no matter where he has been asked to play and no matter by which manager. He scored for us even when Peter Jackson stuck him at full back, what possess Jacko to put him there I'll never know. If City let Syers go, whether to another club, which is more likely or to some cricket arrangement, it will be the most puzzeling decision I have heard this season and there have been a few. I mentioned in earlier postings that I hoped him on the bench as he has been for the last few games, did not leave him wanting to leave City. Where has this rumour come from?

if syers gets shown out the door ill buy a rifle and shoot parky my self

Why would Syers playing cricket in the summer mean he is no longer wanted by City?

He'll have 2 months off before pre-season starts so why not fill the time playing cricket. A lot of players used to this in years gone by, they were still back playing football in time for the season.

In answer to one of the questions regarding playing cricket, it’s a contractual arrangement, injuries, training etc. I am not saying he is leaving for certain, just a very strong rumour from someone who has dealings with players from the Bradford Cricket League.

Let’s be honest he doesn’t get a game; most of his recent appearances have been from the bench. Is he classed as one of the ‘worst players assembled’ by Jacko?

IMO one of the turning points of this season was when he got injured against Leeds. Syers with more games under his belt is only going to get better.

IMO the team should have the ability to get goals from several positions. We should have strikers who score 15-20 each and supporting midfield players who can contribute with 10-15 each, with the odd few goals from defence. But that would be an attacking team, just a thought?

bettyswollocks wrote:
Why would Syers playing cricket in the summer mean he is no longer wanted by City?

He'll have 2 months off before pre-season starts so why not fill the time playing cricket. A lot of players used to this in years gone by, they were still back playing football in time for the season.

I totally agree the seasons are in different parts of the year so good on syers if he wants to keep busy but im sure he'll be back for pre season

Syers is leaving to play cricket?

No hes not. so stop commenting on it. What a stupid rumour to start.

Pathetic.

Farsley XI wrote:
In answer to one of the questions regarding playing cricket, it’s a contractual arrangement, injuries, training etc. I am not saying he is leaving for certain, just a very strong rumour from someone who has dealings with players from the Bradford Cricket League. Let’s be honest he doesn’t get a game; most of his recent appearances have been from the bench. Is he classed as one of the ‘worst players assembled’ by Jacko? IMO one of the turning points of this season was when he got injured against Leeds. Syers with more games under his belt is only going to get better. IMO the team should have the ability to get goals from several positions. We should have strikers who score 15-20 each and supporting midfield players who can contribute with 10-15 each, with the odd few goals from defence. But that would be an attacking team, just a thought?

So all contracts are the same are they, that must make someone's job very easy. Pure and utter rumour. And now the added bonus, that's why Parky didn't pick him - again, you all know that's not true - he was injured. A sensible manager does not rush someone back from injury and risk the lad's career. We've heard all this nonsense all season from people - why is he picking Duke over McLaughlin, again JM was ill but don't let the facts get in the way!

Farsley XI wrote:
Heard a strong rumour that Dave Syers (24) is looking to play cricket in the Bradford League this year, which would mean he is no longer required at City. Is this another one of the fans favourites out of the door?

It would appear that PP doesn’t rate him; perhaps he prefers the less adventurous players or the old rear guard of Ravenhill (31), Flynn (31) and Bullock (30).

I do hope we are not looking at a defensive setup next season; it didn’t work well this season. I will hang on to my season ticket money for the moment, until I hear some encouraging news.

Dave Syers is a competent cricketer and plays every summer, how or why does that mean he is no longer required at City?

It takes some 'special' between the lines reading to make that jump from playing P/T cricket over the summer to no longer being a player at the current football club.

I know these days it isn't often the case but historically players have played pro football and pro cricket, City players at that, David Bairstow and Brian Close are two notable fisrt team cricket and football players, Ian Botham combined both when playing for Scunthorpe and Somerset.

Too many people are too prepared to listen to 'the bloke in the pub' and form a solid opinion based on nothing other than a sentence spoken by a persons second pint.

I heard we are signing Messi, my son told me last night he bought him on FIFA12 and he is aching to come to City. Not sure what his contract with Barca is like though, maybe someone on here can tell me, is he allowed?

Farsley XI wrote:
Heard a strong rumour that Dave Syers (24) is looking to play cricket in the Bradford League this year, which would mean he is no longer required at City. Is this another one of the fans favourites out of the door? It would appear that PP doesn’t rate him; perhaps he prefers the less adventurous players or the old rear guard of Ravenhill (31), Flynn (31) and Bullock (30). I do hope we are not looking at a defensive setup next season; it didn’t work well this season. I will hang on to my season ticket money for the moment, until I hear some encouraging news.

I do not believe it! Lee Bullock is only 30!

I can't believe people would believe that Syers would give up a pro footballing contract to play cricket in the Bradford League......oh man some people crack me up.
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This is a man who was being scouted by Rangers 12 months ago.
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Regarding the youngsters - Parky is the manager so i'll go with him. He knows the kids better then us and has he says he has had past experience.

Not to stoke the flames of rumours, but Dave Syers contract is up at the end of this season. Modern day contracts, you can’t play both sports, hence the reason he couldn’t play for Farsley when he signed for City.
While this is just a rumour, can anyone with complete confidence categorically state he will be at the club next season? Until he puts pen to paper he will be leaving the club this summer. I was shocked at this rumour, but as they say there is no smoke without fire.

I only had one pint

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Too many people are too prepared to listen to 'the bloke in the pub' and form a solid opinion based on nothing other than a sentence spoken by a persons second pint.

I heard we are signing Messi, my son told me last night he bought him on FIFA12 and he is aching to come to City. Not sure what his contract with Barca is like though, maybe someone on here can tell me, is he allowed?

It's a complicated situation with Messi, and I shouldn't really be releasing such confidential information, but I know it will be safe on the T&A site.

Messi has a buy-out clause which City are in discussions to have reduced slightly. It's currently 5 dairylea slices, a chocolate hob-nob and a chupa-chup.

Mark Lawn is adamant that he will not have his trousers pulled down on this one, so has insisted the Chupa-Chup be dropped, which Barca seem happy enough with.

Further complications arose with Messi's personal demands. He's insisted on living in the loft above Nandos in the leisure exchange and wants to have his haircut like Stuart McCall - both shape and colour.

Nandos are ok with it, they're putting a step ladder in the gents for him to climb through the hatch, but David Baldwin has been round all the pound shops in the city centre looking for ginger hair dye but can't find any so he's having to resort to ebay, but if he can't get it delivered in time, Messi has vowed to pull out of the deal.

That's the latest, but I hope to have an update on the Dave Syers situation later too.

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

Farsley XI wrote: Heard a strong rumour that Dave Syers (24) is looking to play cricket in the Bradford League this year, which would mean he is no longer required at City. Is this another one of the fans favourites out of the door? It would appear that PP doesn’t rate him; perhaps he prefers the less adventurous players or the old rear guard of Ravenhill (31), Flynn (31) and Bullock (30). I do hope we are not looking at a defensive setup next season; it didn’t work well this season. I will hang on to my season ticket money for the moment, until I hear some encouraging news.

Dave Syers is a competent cricketer and plays every summer, how or why does that mean he is no longer required at City? It takes some 'special' between the lines reading to make that jump from playing P/T cricket over the summer to no longer being a player at the current football club. I know these days it isn't often the case but historically players have played pro football and pro cricket, City players at that, David Bairstow and Brian Close are two notable fisrt team cricket and football players, Ian Botham combined both when playing for Scunthorpe and Somerset.

If my memory serves me correct seem to remember our very own Stix used to do as well?. Including when he was at Villa. Not quite at Bradford league level but I believe he used to be quite handy.

Absolute nonsense rumour.

Ok, just for arguments sake. At Northampton last Saturday we were chatting to someone who knows Dave Syers very well, He hadn’t at that point (on Saturday) signed a new contract.

Facts are his contact runs out at the end of this season.

Perhaps, he is keeping his options open and looking to play sport where ever he can, hence the involvement with cricket. If he isn’t contracted to a club he can play cricket.

In the good old days you could play both sports. However, in modern times it’s a contractual issue regarding injuries, so I am led to believe.


Perhaps someone in the know can comment on this issue.

Are you sure this is ‘Pathetic’ or ‘Absolute Nonsense’

Personally I hope he is contracted to play for City next season, but that is up to PP.

Talking of rumours....a bloke at my brother in law's golf club has told him that City are "dead certs" for promotion next season. You heard it here first.

Onebrianmitchell wrote:
Syers is leaving to play cricket? No hes not. so stop commenting on it. What a stupid rumour to start. Pathetic.

Agreed!

The only reason Syers will go is if we get an offer and Parkinson decides to take it.

If hes not in Parkinsons plan for next season and some one comes in and Syers wants to go, he'll go, but he isnt going to quit pro football to play summer cricket.

Not sure if he will be here for next season as Parkinson builds his squad but i for one hope he is.

Farsley XI wrote:
Ok, just for arguments sake. At Northampton last Saturday we were chatting to someone who knows Dave Syers very well, He hadn’t at that point (on Saturday) signed a new contract. Facts are his contact runs out at the end of this season. Perhaps, he is keeping his options open and looking to play sport where ever he can, hence the involvement with cricket. If he isn’t contracted to a club he can play cricket. In the good old days you could play both sports. However, in modern times it’s a contractual issue regarding injuries, so I am led to believe. Perhaps someone in the know can comment on this issue. Are you sure this is ‘Pathetic’ or ‘Absolute Nonsense’ Personally I hope he is contracted to play for City next season, but that is up to PP.

Theres a number of players out of contract at the end of the season, Syers being one of em, also Oliver, Ramsden, Seip, Flynn to name but a few. For some reason City aren't doing anything on that front till the end of the season, even it seems with the better players,but that is how PP says he is doing it so DS is in the same boat as everybody else,but it doesn't mean to say he wont be offered one. You say this is a "very strong rumour from someone who deals with players in the Bradford cricket league" well that says alot! how does this person know whether Dave Syers will be offered another contract at BCFC? 2 good enough reasons why I think it is absolute nonsense, not to mention the fact DS bust a gut to get into league football, is your source is saying he is going to give that up to play Bradford league,even if he is offered another contract?.

As for playing cricket for a couple of months off season, I'm not sure this would cause an issue for the club. Probably a good source of keeping fit than spending 2 months off putting on weight, but I'm not sure if it is an issue these days. City may stipulate he has to be well covered for insurance purposes and perhaps certain restrictions. If Beckham or Henry can play in the MLS off season at another team, I'm not sure why Syers couldn't play a bit of cricket.

Fatbloke is good on contracts, maybe he night know.

Scargutt2 wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Too many people are too prepared to listen to 'the bloke in the pub' and form a solid opinion based on nothing other than a sentence spoken by a persons second pint.

I heard we are signing Messi, my son told me last night he bought him on FIFA12 and he is aching to come to City. Not sure what his contract with Barca is like though, maybe someone on here can tell me, is he allowed?

It's a complicated situation with Messi, and I shouldn't really be releasing such confidential information, but I know it will be safe on the T&A site.

Messi has a buy-out clause which City are in discussions to have reduced slightly. It's currently 5 dairylea slices, a chocolate hob-nob and a chupa-chup.

Mark Lawn is adamant that he will not have his trousers pulled down on this one, so has insisted the Chupa-Chup be dropped, which Barca seem happy enough with.

Further complications arose with Messi's personal demands. He's insisted on living in the loft above Nandos in the leisure exchange and wants to have his haircut like Stuart McCall - both shape and colour.

Nandos are ok with it, they're putting a step ladder in the gents for him to climb through the hatch, but David Baldwin has been round all the pound shops in the city centre looking for ginger hair dye but can't find any so he's having to resort to ebay, but if he can't get it delivered in time, Messi has vowed to pull out of the deal.

That's the latest, but I hope to have an update on the Dave Syers situation later too.

I had heard a whisper but knew the chupa-chup would be a stumbling block. Lawn is shrewd, totally agree to him not having his pants pulled down. Ever.

If the ginger is a big issue I could always offer to drive to Blackpool and pick up a hilarious 'see you Jimmy' Tam o'Shanter with mullet like red locks attached. The offer is there Mr Baldwin.

As regards rumours, I too was speaking to one of Dave Syers friends, a physio, during last summer and he felt at that time that Leeds were tracking Dave, he started the season in our colours but who is to say that if his knee hadn't gone in that Leeds game he wouldn't have been a City player now, let's face it, as far as a 4th division midfielder goes he put on show worthy of a player from the chmapionship or prem.

Didn't realise Syers was out of contract, if that is the case then it will be bye bye Dave Syers. Parkie doesn't like his attributes.

Shame really, think most other people rate him.

There will be takers for Syers so he might decide to play cricket before he signs a new contract whoever it is with.

If he is under contract then I am pretty sure the club would have to give him permission or not to play cricket, after assessing the risk of allowing him to. They will also assess the benfits for the club if they allow him to.

With Beckham and Henry there will be big benefits to their clubs, 1) the player keeps fit and 2) wages probably paid by the club borrowing them and saving them probably about £1m per month.

"Rumours" by Gregory Isaacs is stuck in my head now! Footballers in the past have played cricket during the summer months so why not now? He is out of contract in the summer so there is nothing to stop him playing cricket if he wants to while he mulls over his options. If you read his Wikipedia entry it shows he had a promising cricket career plus he read classics at Leeds Uni so maybe he's thinking of studying further? People with a PHD probably earn more than most players do in the 4th div! Keeping on the rumour theme, I'd heard Leeds were going to sign him in the summer so maybe it's Syers who doesn't want to be at City rather than PP not rating him. He is a Leeds lad and a Leeds fan. Can hardly blame him if the team he supports, two leagues higher, have said they want him on a Bosman. Time will tell I suppose.

I would have liked Rowe to have made an appearance before the season's end to see what progress he's made.

Given the below par displays from some loanees this season, I don't think 30 minutes or so of Rowe would have gone amiss.

It's a damning indictment of our player development when we haven't a young player ready for a run out in a game when we have nothing at stake.

Agreed pablo, would have liked to have seen Rowe given a run also Brown who we were led to believe is some sort of wonderkid who wasnt allowed to play for first team last year, something to do with age and coming from another country (albeit Scotland)

If City miss out on Messi because they can't do something as simple as source ginger hair dye or a wig, then I think it's clear to see that Lawn, Rhodes & Baldwin should go ! That said, if Messi can't convince PP of his defensive capabilities (it's not all about attacking you know), it's a non starter !

Pablo wrote:
I would have liked Rowe to have made an appearance before the season's end to see what progress he's made. Given the below par displays from some loanees this season, I don't think 30 minutes or so of Rowe would have gone amiss. It's a damning indictment of our player development when we haven't a young player ready for a run out in a game when we have nothing at stake.

Unfortunately the policy seems to be whenever we get a young player coming through with talent we sell with clauses etc....Green, Cleverley, Wisdon, Delph think there was a keeper and couple of others who I can't remember the names. That usually leaves us with the best of the rest who usually won't be quite good enough and end up at Guiseley or Halifax. Sign of the times being a lower league club I suppose. Youth set ups are only interested in finding the one gold nugget here and there and the rest just there to make up the numbers, usually getting cast aside eventually.

If Rowe burns and brown are not goin to get a chance in these games it does not look very promising. If we are too keep them next season they need to be developing into squad players and be used instead of loan players. If the manager won't allow any game time in meaningless games how are they goin to develop to that point? Prob be freed end of season. It does get my back up wen I see some of the loan players we have had over the last few years and they prevent our younger players gettin an opportunity.Especial
ly wen the loans are the majority of the time unsuccessful and we still have a poor season. I really hope we go away from loan signings.

Scargutt2 wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote: Too many people are too prepared to listen to 'the bloke in the pub' and form a solid opinion based on nothing other than a sentence spoken by a persons second pint. I heard we are signing Messi, my son told me last night he bought him on FIFA12 and he is aching to come to City. Not sure what his contract with Barca is like though, maybe someone on here can tell me, is he allowed?

It's a complicated situation with Messi, and I shouldn't really be releasing such confidential information, but I know it will be safe on the T&A site. Messi has a buy-out clause which City are in discussions to have reduced slightly. It's currently 5 dairylea slices, a chocolate hob-nob and a chupa-chup. Mark Lawn is adamant that he will not have his trousers pulled down on this one, so has insisted the Chupa-Chup be dropped, which Barca seem happy enough with. Further complications arose with Messi's personal demands. He's insisted on living in the loft above Nandos in the leisure exchange and wants to have his haircut like Stuart McCall - both shape and colour. Nandos are ok with it, they're putting a step ladder in the gents for him to climb through the hatch, but David Baldwin has been round all the pound shops in the city centre looking for ginger hair dye but can't find any so he's having to resort to ebay, but if he can't get it delivered in time, Messi has vowed to pull out of the deal. That's the latest, but I hope to have an update on the Dave Syers situation later too.

And there we have it; the post of the season. Absolutely brilliant.

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote: Too many people are too prepared to listen to 'the bloke in the pub' and form a solid opinion based on nothing other than a sentence spoken by a persons second pint. I heard we are signing Messi, my son told me last night he bought him on FIFA12 and he is aching to come to City. Not sure what his contract with Barca is like though, maybe someone on here can tell me, is he allowed?

It's a complicated situation with Messi, and I shouldn't really be releasing such confidential information, but I know it will be safe on the T&A site. Messi has a buy-out clause which City are in discussions to have reduced slightly. It's currently 5 dairylea slices, a chocolate hob-nob and a chupa-chup. Mark Lawn is adamant that he will not have his trousers pulled down on this one, so has insisted the Chupa-Chup be dropped, which Barca seem happy enough with. Further complications arose with Messi's personal demands. He's insisted on living in the loft above Nandos in the leisure exchange and wants to have his haircut like Stuart McCall - both shape and colour. Nandos are ok with it, they're putting a step ladder in the gents for him to climb through the hatch, but David Baldwin has been round all the pound shops in the city centre looking for ginger hair dye but can't find any so he's having to resort to ebay, but if he can't get it delivered in time, Messi has vowed to pull out of the deal. That's the latest, but I hope to have an update on the Dave Syers situation later too.

I had heard a whisper but knew the chupa-chup would be a stumbling block. Lawn is shrewd, totally agree to him not having his pants pulled down. Ever. If the ginger is a big issue I could always offer to drive to Blackpool and pick up a hilarious 'see you Jimmy' Tam o'Shanter with mullet like red locks attached. The offer is there Mr Baldwin. As regards rumours, I too was speaking to one of Dave Syers friends, a physio, during last summer and he felt at that time that Leeds were tracking Dave, he started the season in our colours but who is to say that if his knee hadn't gone in that Leeds game he wouldn't have been a City player now, let's face it, as far as a 4th division midfielder goes he put on show worthy of a player from the chmapionship or prem.

If it's rumours that we are after; how about the one that says Syers shook hands with Jacko on a new contract but the club withdrew it when he got injured? This contributed to Jacko falling out with the board and leaving...

Syers is one of the players that i would hope is tied now for the next couple of years but it is not a disaster if we don't. Particularly if we can sort the Messi deal out.

Pablo wrote:
I would have liked Rowe to have made an appearance before the season's end to see what progress he's made. Given the below par displays from some loanees this season, I don't think 30 minutes or so of Rowe would have gone amiss. It's a damning indictment of our player development when we haven't a young player ready for a run out in a game when we have nothing at stake.

We do, we have Nahki Wells...

KnightMcCall wrote:

Pablo wrote:
I would have liked Rowe to have made an appearance before the season's end to see what progress he's made. Given the below par displays from some loanees this season, I don't think 30 minutes or so of Rowe would have gone amiss. It's a damning indictment of our player development when we haven't a young player ready for a run out in a game when we have nothing at stake.

We do, we have Nahki Wells...

Nahki Wells is an established first team squad member and, therefore, doesn't come int the category I was describing.

By disagreeing for the sake of it, you're making yourself look an idiot ( apologies to all idiots!)

"established member of the 1st team". But you were ridiculing PP for not using him enough earlier this week so come on; which one is it.

Nahki Wells is going to be the young player of the year and with 16 starts to his name is in his breakthrough season - established my foot! Just admit it; PP has managed this young player very well but to avoid giving PP any credit you choose to ignore him.

Disagreeing for the sake of it? It's actually just a simple case of you being wrong. If you can make your mind up about Haworth in 20 minutes;...PP has a lot more to go on than that when deciding who is ready to play and who isn't. If the youngsters are not ready for our first team then they are not ready; it would be a damning indictment of our Youth Development if they were thrown in before they are up to it.