Phil Parkinson's job safe, says Bradford City chief Mark Lawn

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Bradford City joint-chairman Mark Lawn says sacking Phil Parkinson would be a foolish move Bradford City joint-chairman Mark Lawn says sacking Phil Parkinson would be a foolish move

Mark Lawn today urged fans to get behind manager Phil Parkinson in City’s hour of need.

Lawn insisted Parkinson had the backing of the board despite the worrying league position.

And he felt that making another change at the top at this present time would be a “foolish” move.

City go into Easter with a four-point advantage on the drop zone after collecting only one win and two draws from the nine games in March.

But Lawn is still confident that Parkinson can keep their heads above water.

He said: “We’ve got to stick with Phil, simple as that. Now’s not the time to start changing managers with only six games left.

Now’s not the time to start changing managers with only six games left

Mark Lawn

“If you look at Macclesfield, they’ve changed and so far there has not been a positive impact.

“Who would you get in who could change it so quick? You just can’t do that.

“Results have been disappointing. But if you look at the games, we are competing and we’re there or thereabouts.

“It’s been very close and we’ve just got to edge over that line. To change manager now would be foolish.”

Parkinson signed a two-year deal when he succeeded Peter Jackson in August. The City joint-chairman added: “I still think Phil is a commonsense manager and he works very hard.

“We all hope we’re in safe hands and we’ll get to that position where we are safe in the league.

“At this stage, he has a contract to fulfil through next season.”

Macclesfield, who visit Valley Parade on April 21, and Hereford sit in the relegation spots. Lawn admitted the sole objective for the final month of the season was to finish above them.

“We’re still four points ahead of the bottom two and that’s our league we’ve got to win. Finishing sixth or seventh bottom in that little league would be great but third means you’re safe.

“If we do the same as Hereford and Macclesfield, we stay up. If we do better, then we stay up.

“I am amazed it’s come to this but some of the decisions we have been getting are not the best.

“We can’t change that. We’ve had words with referees and we’re still getting those decisions.

“I’ve got to be quite honest, I thought Nahki (Wells) was in line at Plymouth and not offside.

“But we’re just going to have to work harder. I spoke to Phil about it and there’s no point moaning.

“I’m as worried as I was last year. We were in a similar position then so let’s hope we can dig in again and get a few results to get out of it.

“Some very wise managers have turned round and said there will be some twists and turns before the end of the season. That will happen in our little league of seven.”

Recent poor results have also hit season-ticket sales, with fans reluctant to buy for next term until they are certain that City will survive.

Lawn said: “I would be encouraged if we were selling more and it would help the cashflow. But I can see why people are hanging on and there hasn’t been a great uptake.

“But I don’t agree with it. I was a fan, I’ve been there and I’ve bought season tickets.

“In their position, I’d have got mine already.”

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7:16am Wed 4 Apr 12

i miss stallard & murray says...

We are on a down wood spiral. Its not just the Plymouth game its the results since the turn of the year. I will get behind the team but with this idiot we are not goin to have a team next season. Even if we manage to stay up changes are required to move us forward. Man management skills are lacking. He likes to wheel and deal if we keep him I wud put a bet on a high number of players been used this time next season. We do need stability but not only in terms of a manager but a settled startin eleven and a settled squad as wel. I just think the stability needs to be with the correct manager and for me deadbeat does not offer anythin positive and no stability on his part.
We are on a down wood spiral. Its not just the Plymouth game its the results since the turn of the year. I will get behind the team but with this idiot we are not goin to have a team next season. Even if we manage to stay up changes are required to move us forward. Man management skills are lacking. He likes to wheel and deal if we keep him I wud put a bet on a high number of players been used this time next season. We do need stability but not only in terms of a manager but a settled startin eleven and a settled squad as wel. I just think the stability needs to be with the correct manager and for me deadbeat does not offer anythin positive and no stability on his part. i miss stallard & murray

7:35am Wed 4 Apr 12

Lancashire Bantam says...

Is this the dreaded vote of confidance?I hope so.After Friday's match lets see how long the worst manager we have ever had lasts.
Is this the dreaded vote of confidance?I hope so.After Friday's match lets see how long the worst manager we have ever had lasts. Lancashire Bantam

7:47am Wed 4 Apr 12

johnny yen says...

The comment from Mark Lawn that stands out to me in the article is

“At this stage, he has a contract to fulfil through next season.”

That suggests to me that the board aren't happy with PP and they way things are going.

The decision has been made to keep the status quo until the season ends, and then make changes as they deem appropriate.

I go along with this, maybe it's better the devil you know at this stage.

The only man available that could that would make an immediate positive impact would be Mad dog Martin Allen.

However, no matter what frustrations and angst we feel as fans of this club.
Now's not the time to show dessent or derison.
We must back, cajole and support this team until we manage to limp over that finish line.

Then vent your anger at whoever you feel responsible, and demand success for next season.
The comment from Mark Lawn that stands out to me in the article is “At this stage, he has a contract to fulfil through next season.” That suggests to me that the board aren't happy with PP and they way things are going. The decision has been made to keep the status quo until the season ends, and then make changes as they deem appropriate. I go along with this, maybe it's better the devil you know at this stage. The only man available that could that would make an immediate positive impact would be Mad dog Martin Allen. However, no matter what frustrations and angst we feel as fans of this club. Now's not the time to show dessent or derison. We must back, cajole and support this team until we manage to limp over that finish line. Then vent your anger at whoever you feel responsible, and demand success for next season. johnny yen

7:52am Wed 4 Apr 12

Citytilidie says...

Wake up lawn why would anyone buy early with the dross being served up the fans want to be entertained but constant tinkering and containing football isnt working weve all seen how we can play when we are positive normally when we go behind so i can understand the frustration as im baffled why we continue to be so cautious especially against teams below us in the table this is the reason why weve only won one game this year,one win will probably be enough because theyll be at least two worst teams than us,i dont agree with sacking managers every six months and ill judge parky next year and hope he wakes up and changes his approach to games,praying for 3 pts on friday
Wake up lawn why would anyone buy early with the dross being served up the fans want to be entertained but constant tinkering and containing football isnt working weve all seen how we can play when we are positive normally when we go behind so i can understand the frustration as im baffled why we continue to be so cautious especially against teams below us in the table this is the reason why weve only won one game this year,one win will probably be enough because theyll be at least two worst teams than us,i dont agree with sacking managers every six months and ill judge parky next year and hope he wakes up and changes his approach to games,praying for 3 pts on friday Citytilidie

7:58am Wed 4 Apr 12

ALEXIMO.56. says...

How many times have we read that in the national newspapers coming from Chairmen at other clubs? Then a week later the the size 9 connects with the arsiendo. Lawn has just said the same Parky's job is safe and a change at the top at this stage of the season would be foolish. Oops, I bet he is pollishing his size 9 right now. I have to agre with a lot on here and that is leave it til the end of the season and then he will be judged next season. Oh yes, we will stay up this season.
How many times have we read that in the national newspapers coming from Chairmen at other clubs? Then a week later the the size 9 connects with the arsiendo. Lawn has just said the same Parky's job is safe and a change at the top at this stage of the season would be foolish. Oops, I bet he is pollishing his size 9 right now. I have to agre with a lot on here and that is leave it til the end of the season and then he will be judged next season. Oh yes, we will stay up this season. ALEXIMO.56.

8:04am Wed 4 Apr 12

prince35 says...

Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????.

Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure.

We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again.

Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly.

Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.
Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall. prince35

8:12am Wed 4 Apr 12

Bill Ding says...

Even if City stay up, next season doesn't look very fun filled.

Why go if you don't enjoy it? VP isn't very entertaining these days.

Parkinson out! Lawn out!
Even if City stay up, next season doesn't look very fun filled. Why go if you don't enjoy it? VP isn't very entertaining these days. Parkinson out! Lawn out! Bill Ding

8:16am Wed 4 Apr 12

ALEXIMO.56. says...

I need to ask this question and maybe someone might know. How do these Bans work? We are scheduled to play Sarfend on Friday, now if by any chance the game is postponed, does that still count as that match ban and it is technically used up? or does it get carried over to when we actually play a game?
I need to ask this question and maybe someone might know. How do these Bans work? We are scheduled to play Sarfend on Friday, now if by any chance the game is postponed, does that still count as that match ban and it is technically used up? or does it get carried over to when we actually play a game? ALEXIMO.56.

8:18am Wed 4 Apr 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Lawn, I though you mentioned at skme stage that we couldn't survive paying the rents we do if we went into the non league. So after making such statements are you suprised the take up on season tickets is poor?

One other thing the sale of season tickets is a reflection on what people think of the kind of football we play and a vote of no confidence in the manager.

The fans are voting with their feet, not doing anything Lawn could result in dire sales.
Lawn, I though you mentioned at skme stage that we couldn't survive paying the rents we do if we went into the non league. So after making such statements are you suprised the take up on season tickets is poor? One other thing the sale of season tickets is a reflection on what people think of the kind of football we play and a vote of no confidence in the manager. The fans are voting with their feet, not doing anything Lawn could result in dire sales. Thee Voice of Reason

8:34am Wed 4 Apr 12

windymiller says...

If PP picks the right players in the right positions I do not see why we would be relegated. If, however, he picks his favorites and plays them out of position then we will be relegated. At the moment it's abit like Man Utd buying a star striker, putting him in goal and asking why aren't we scoring. If you got a player to play a certain position then play him in it. Not rocket science is it!!
If PP picks the right players in the right positions I do not see why we would be relegated. If, however, he picks his favorites and plays them out of position then we will be relegated. At the moment it's abit like Man Utd buying a star striker, putting him in goal and asking why aren't we scoring. If you got a player to play a certain position then play him in it. Not rocket science is it!! windymiller

8:40am Wed 4 Apr 12

macca1969 says...

If and its a big if we do stay up, if parky is still manager next season the most I'll commit to is the fifty fifty. Then once commonsense prevails and he is sacked i can return to watch my team.
If and its a big if we do stay up, if parky is still manager next season the most I'll commit to is the fifty fifty. Then once commonsense prevails and he is sacked i can return to watch my team. macca1969

8:42am Wed 4 Apr 12

prince35 says...

Chairman lawn has said he can understand why supporters are hanging on buying a season tkt.
But doesn't agree with it!!!.
Chairman lawn says he would have bought his already.
Well Mr lawn we are not all millionaires and tbh, Im waiting on till we secure lge status.
Also he says lets hope we are on safe hands!!!!.
To me even chairman lawn isn't sure.
Chairman lawn has said he can understand why supporters are hanging on buying a season tkt. But doesn't agree with it!!!. Chairman lawn says he would have bought his already. Well Mr lawn we are not all millionaires and tbh, Im waiting on till we secure lge status. Also he says lets hope we are on safe hands!!!!. To me even chairman lawn isn't sure. prince35

8:47am Wed 4 Apr 12

ricky76 says...

ALEXIMO.56. wrote:
I need to ask this question and maybe someone might know. How do these Bans work? We are scheduled to play Sarfend on Friday, now if by any chance the game is postponed, does that still count as that match ban and it is technically used up? or does it get carried over to when we actually play a game?
The players will miss 3 games /5games which are played meaning any game postponed gets carried over to the next
[quote][p][bold]ALEXIMO.56.[/bold] wrote: I need to ask this question and maybe someone might know. How do these Bans work? We are scheduled to play Sarfend on Friday, now if by any chance the game is postponed, does that still count as that match ban and it is technically used up? or does it get carried over to when we actually play a game?[/p][/quote]The players will miss 3 games /5games which are played meaning any game postponed gets carried over to the next ricky76

8:54am Wed 4 Apr 12

ricky76 says...

I asked the question mainly aimed at Shaun about a month or so ago if PP wasnt in charge who would we like as a manager as our recent ones have been poor but be realistic in your choice remembering we are a struggling league 2 side and why would that manager want to come and why would they be the correct man in your eyes to take the club forward.
I asked the question mainly aimed at Shaun about a month or so ago if PP wasnt in charge who would we like as a manager as our recent ones have been poor but be realistic in your choice remembering we are a struggling league 2 side and why would that manager want to come and why would they be the correct man in your eyes to take the club forward. ricky76

8:56am Wed 4 Apr 12

silverbantam says...

I can't believe I actually agree with something Mark Lawn says, but I do.

However he should add that he and Rhodes are responsible for this farce of a season.

By getting in Archie Christie which totally undermined Peter Jackson and setting up the ridiculous 'development squad' which was a luxury City could not afford. The board have ruined a promising season. All funds should have gone into the first team. No wonder Jacko resigned. He knew we would struggle with such meagre resources.

But changing the manager now is a waste of time with only 6 matches left.
I can't believe I actually agree with something Mark Lawn says, but I do. However he should add that he and Rhodes are responsible for this farce of a season. By getting in Archie Christie which totally undermined Peter Jackson and setting up the ridiculous 'development squad' which was a luxury City could not afford. The board have ruined a promising season. All funds should have gone into the first team. No wonder Jacko resigned. He knew we would struggle with such meagre resources. But changing the manager now is a waste of time with only 6 matches left. silverbantam

9:08am Wed 4 Apr 12

Killerwhale says...

Ok, Mr Lawn I can see the point as far as the board is concerned not to change at so late a date, as it becomes a no win situation for them. But I would have the balls to act now and take the responsibility of the decision even if it turns out with relegation! If we get relegated and change manager I will defo attend matches next season, as I know that the standard is actually better than L2 its just the grounds that aren't, but if we stay up and PP stays I will not be attending, not even if we are doing well! Thats because I aren't two faced, I keep to my word. Give Parkin a chance, couldn't do any worse surely?
Ok, Mr Lawn I can see the point as far as the board is concerned not to change at so late a date, as it becomes a no win situation for them. But I would have the balls to act now and take the responsibility of the decision even if it turns out with relegation! If we get relegated and change manager I will defo attend matches next season, as I know that the standard is actually better than L2 its just the grounds that aren't, but if we stay up and PP stays I will not be attending, not even if we are doing well! Thats because I aren't two faced, I keep to my word. Give Parkin a chance, couldn't do any worse surely? Killerwhale

9:09am Wed 4 Apr 12

Farsley XI says...

Dear Mr Lawn I am holding on to my season ticket money until mathematically safe. However, I would like to see good attractive football, after all isn’t football supposed to be entertainment?
Dear Mr Lawn I am holding on to my season ticket money until mathematically safe. However, I would like to see good attractive football, after all isn’t football supposed to be entertainment? Farsley XI

9:14am Wed 4 Apr 12

Mick, Cleckheaton says...

You can always guarantee that whatever the tone of the article the know nowts will be on here first thing in the morning with further updates as the day goes by. They haven't disappointed this morning.

For one of them to ask whether a postponement would wipe out one of the bans should be unbelievable but with this lot it's probably par for the course!
You can always guarantee that whatever the tone of the article the know nowts will be on here first thing in the morning with further updates as the day goes by. They haven't disappointed this morning. For one of them to ask whether a postponement would wipe out one of the bans should be unbelievable but with this lot it's probably par for the course! Mick, Cleckheaton

9:16am Wed 4 Apr 12

ALEXIMO.56. says...

ricky76 wrote:
ALEXIMO.56. wrote:
I need to ask this question and maybe someone might know. How do these Bans work? We are scheduled to play Sarfend on Friday, now if by any chance the game is postponed, does that still count as that match ban and it is technically used up? or does it get carried over to when we actually play a game?
The players will miss 3 games /5games which are played meaning any game postponed gets carried over to the next
Thanks for that ricky 76. Just a hopeful thought.
[quote][p][bold]ricky76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ALEXIMO.56.[/bold] wrote: I need to ask this question and maybe someone might know. How do these Bans work? We are scheduled to play Sarfend on Friday, now if by any chance the game is postponed, does that still count as that match ban and it is technically used up? or does it get carried over to when we actually play a game?[/p][/quote]The players will miss 3 games /5games which are played meaning any game postponed gets carried over to the next[/p][/quote]Thanks for that ricky 76. Just a hopeful thought. ALEXIMO.56.

9:24am Wed 4 Apr 12

BCFC2013? says...

If in the following quote you change you change 'That Terminator' for 'Phil Parkinson' and 'you are' for 'BCFC is' this rings worryingly true. "Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead."
If in the following quote you change you change 'That Terminator' for 'Phil Parkinson' and 'you are' for 'BCFC is' this rings worryingly true. "Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead." BCFC2013?

9:25am Wed 4 Apr 12

total90 says...

I am disapointed that the club read and are influenced by the posts on here, only responding to those who are shouting for the managers head and threatening not to buy season tickets. I would like to think that by now the board would have picked up on the other posts which are loyal to the cause through thick and thin. Those who just want this manager to stop messing about with our team in a way which does not make any sense to the fans. Football is a simple. game I feel that managers are coached like clones to over complicate the game, which in turn leads to players not been able to think for themselves during the 90 minutes, when it counts. Southend will be expecting us to sit deep and fill our midfield, based on some of our past performances and our position in the division. Chairmen I would love to think that now you will get right inside Mr. Parkinson's bonnet and encourage him to go for it! Attack attack attack! We have the players who can do this. Have confidence in our attack, mid field and defence. Don't have our midfield try to defend our defence, they have been punished because of the odd lapse in concetration and and poor decisions made by officials. Let the midfield look forward and create chances for our attackers to score goals, opposition don't like that, fans do. It is not unreasonable for fans not to have bought season tickets yet, however as soon as we have mathematical assurance that we are staying up, those who say they are City fans, should get on and buy a ticket. Otherwise we have no brass for players or running club next season, and you will have no right to complain about any aspect to do with City. You can only expect to get out of life as much as you put in.
I am disapointed that the club read and are influenced by the posts on here, only responding to those who are shouting for the managers head and threatening not to buy season tickets. I would like to think that by now the board would have picked up on the other posts which are loyal to the cause through thick and thin. Those who just want this manager to stop messing about with our team in a way which does not make any sense to the fans. Football is a simple. game I feel that managers are coached like clones to over complicate the game, which in turn leads to players not been able to think for themselves during the 90 minutes, when it counts. Southend will be expecting us to sit deep and fill our midfield, based on some of our past performances and our position in the division. Chairmen I would love to think that now you will get right inside Mr. Parkinson's bonnet and encourage him to go for it! Attack attack attack! We have the players who can do this. Have confidence in our attack, mid field and defence. Don't have our midfield try to defend our defence, they have been punished because of the odd lapse in concetration and and poor decisions made by officials. Let the midfield look forward and create chances for our attackers to score goals, opposition don't like that, fans do. It is not unreasonable for fans not to have bought season tickets yet, however as soon as we have mathematical assurance that we are staying up, those who say they are City fans, should get on and buy a ticket. Otherwise we have no brass for players or running club next season, and you will have no right to complain about any aspect to do with City. You can only expect to get out of life as much as you put in. total90

9:28am Wed 4 Apr 12

bwwb says...

Call the manager disgraceful, yes, call the board incompetent, yes, but stop supporting the team I have followed for 51 years - never.
I will continue buying season tickets until I am no longer able to follow the team whatever league or division they are in.
It is extremely unlikely that relegation to the BSP would lead to the demise of the club ( there are at least 15 ex league clubs in the BSP and the fixture list would be no less attractive than the pathetic shower we are supposed to be competing with at the moment) . The issue of the ground is purely illusional. If the club owned it the cost would have to come from somewhere in the way of loans and would cost just as much in interest as the rent being paid to Gibb.
Call the manager disgraceful, yes, call the board incompetent, yes, but stop supporting the team I have followed for 51 years - never. I will continue buying season tickets until I am no longer able to follow the team whatever league or division they are in. It is extremely unlikely that relegation to the BSP would lead to the demise of the club ( there are at least 15 ex league clubs in the BSP and the fixture list would be no less attractive than the pathetic shower we are supposed to be competing with at the moment) . The issue of the ground is purely illusional. If the club owned it the cost would have to come from somewhere in the way of loans and would cost just as much in interest as the rent being paid to Gibb. bwwb

9:33am Wed 4 Apr 12

shaun from richmond says...

LAWN can Support "Deadbeat" all he wants!!!......BUT I WONT!!. After stabbing "Jacko" in the back then trying to humiliate him.....LAWN can shove it!!.
"DEADBEAT OUT"!!
LAWN can Support "Deadbeat" all he wants!!!......BUT I WONT!!. After stabbing "Jacko" in the back then trying to humiliate him.....LAWN can shove it!!. "DEADBEAT OUT"!! shaun from richmond

9:35am Wed 4 Apr 12

ALEXIMO.56. says...

Mick, Cleckheaton wrote:
You can always guarantee that whatever the tone of the article the know nowts will be on here first thing in the morning with further updates as the day goes by. They haven't disappointed this morning.

For one of them to ask whether a postponement would wipe out one of the bans should be unbelievable but with this lot it's probably par for the course!
Wouldn't you have asked a similar questionMick? I didn't know how these bans work. I always thought the bans would be for the programmed fixtures and if there was a postponement then technically that ban for that game would be used up. I believe it should be that way. So please don't be calling me a numpty. If you have read most of my posts, then you will see that my posts are all genuine and I don't come on and spout $hite like all the others you are referring to.
[quote][p][bold]Mick, Cleckheaton[/bold] wrote: You can always guarantee that whatever the tone of the article the know nowts will be on here first thing in the morning with further updates as the day goes by. They haven't disappointed this morning. For one of them to ask whether a postponement would wipe out one of the bans should be unbelievable but with this lot it's probably par for the course![/p][/quote]Wouldn't you have asked a similar questionMick? I didn't know how these bans work. I always thought the bans would be for the programmed fixtures and if there was a postponement then technically that ban for that game would be used up. I believe it should be that way. So please don't be calling me a numpty. If you have read most of my posts, then you will see that my posts are all genuine and I don't come on and spout $hite like all the others you are referring to. ALEXIMO.56.

9:36am Wed 4 Apr 12

johnny yen says...

Mick, Cleckheaton wrote:
You can always guarantee that whatever the tone of the article the know nowts will be on here first thing in the morning with further updates as the day goes by. They haven't disappointed this morning. For one of them to ask whether a postponement would wipe out one of the bans should be unbelievable but with this lot it's probably par for the course!
Ah, a self styled footballing Guru, pray, share with us your learned knowledge.
[quote][p][bold]Mick, Cleckheaton[/bold] wrote: You can always guarantee that whatever the tone of the article the know nowts will be on here first thing in the morning with further updates as the day goes by. They haven't disappointed this morning. For one of them to ask whether a postponement would wipe out one of the bans should be unbelievable but with this lot it's probably par for the course![/p][/quote]Ah, a self styled footballing Guru, pray, share with us your learned knowledge. johnny yen

9:36am Wed 4 Apr 12

Dave2610 says...

Now then Parkie not really calling for you to be sacked as you are prooving your own down fall!
So you have been given the vote from Lawn so now play your best 11!!!!
I know we are struggling for defenders with injuries and suspenions so lets go and attack them this takes pressure off the weakened back four!!!!!!
Now then Parkie not really calling for you to be sacked as you are prooving your own down fall! So you have been given the vote from Lawn so now play your best 11!!!! I know we are struggling for defenders with injuries and suspenions so lets go and attack them this takes pressure off the weakened back four!!!!!! Dave2610

9:48am Wed 4 Apr 12

The SBD says...

We just have get behind the team that takes to the field and be behind the manager. That is what it has come to now.
Personally i know the board have slipped up by not appointing Colin Cooper, He knew the players in the squad and there wouldn't have been anywhere near as many alterations as there has been.
We just have get behind the team that takes to the field and be behind the manager. That is what it has come to now. Personally i know the board have slipped up by not appointing Colin Cooper, He knew the players in the squad and there wouldn't have been anywhere near as many alterations as there has been. The SBD

9:48am Wed 4 Apr 12

Tinybantam says...

To Mr. Parkinson I say one thing and that is the well known phrase "The best form of defence is ATTACK!"
To Mr. Parkinson I say one thing and that is the well known phrase "The best form of defence is ATTACK!" Tinybantam

9:49am Wed 4 Apr 12

ALEXIMO.56. says...

johnny yen wrote:
Mick, Cleckheaton wrote:
You can always guarantee that whatever the tone of the article the know nowts will be on here first thing in the morning with further updates as the day goes by. They haven't disappointed this morning. For one of them to ask whether a postponement would wipe out one of the bans should be unbelievable but with this lot it's probably par for the course!
Ah, a self styled footballing Guru, pray, share with us your learned knowledge.
By the way Mick. Did you read my reply to Ricky 76? I stated JUST A HOPEFUL THOUGHT. So I'm one of those par for the course? and you know it all? are you friends with Shaun? lol.
[quote][p][bold]johnny yen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mick, Cleckheaton[/bold] wrote: You can always guarantee that whatever the tone of the article the know nowts will be on here first thing in the morning with further updates as the day goes by. They haven't disappointed this morning. For one of them to ask whether a postponement would wipe out one of the bans should be unbelievable but with this lot it's probably par for the course![/p][/quote]Ah, a self styled footballing Guru, pray, share with us your learned knowledge.[/p][/quote]By the way Mick. Did you read my reply to Ricky 76? I stated JUST A HOPEFUL THOUGHT. So I'm one of those par for the course? and you know it all? are you friends with Shaun? lol. ALEXIMO.56.

9:50am Wed 4 Apr 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

The SBD wrote:
We just have get behind the team that takes to the field and be behind the manager. That is what it has come to now. Personally i know the board have slipped up by not appointing Colin Cooper, He knew the players in the squad and there wouldn't have been anywhere near as many alterations as there has been.
Colin Cooper was incharge for 2 games, it's hard to judge how good a manager he is on 2 games, especially when one was Barnet and the second was a second string Wednesday team.
[quote][p][bold]The SBD[/bold] wrote: We just have get behind the team that takes to the field and be behind the manager. That is what it has come to now. Personally i know the board have slipped up by not appointing Colin Cooper, He knew the players in the squad and there wouldn't have been anywhere near as many alterations as there has been.[/p][/quote]Colin Cooper was incharge for 2 games, it's hard to judge how good a manager he is on 2 games, especially when one was Barnet and the second was a second string Wednesday team. Thee Voice of Reason

9:53am Wed 4 Apr 12

ricky76 says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
LAWN can Support "Deadbeat" all he wants!!!......BUT I WONT!!. After stabbing "Jacko" in the back then trying to humiliate him.....LAWN can shove it!!.
"DEADBEAT OUT"!!
Whats your obsession with Jacko?
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: LAWN can Support "Deadbeat" all he wants!!!......BUT I WONT!!. After stabbing "Jacko" in the back then trying to humiliate him.....LAWN can shove it!!. "DEADBEAT OUT"!![/p][/quote]Whats your obsession with Jacko? ricky76

9:55am Wed 4 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above nowt fresh

10:10am Wed 4 Apr 12

bwwb says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support
They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount) bwwb

10:11am Wed 4 Apr 12

prince35 says...

@aleximo.
Interesting point.
I too beleave the match bans should be on planned fixtures.
@aleximo. Interesting point. I too beleave the match bans should be on planned fixtures. prince35

10:13am Wed 4 Apr 12

Pablo says...

Lawn's statement is not an overwhelming vote of confidence in PP.

It suggests to me that he'll see this season out and, the dearth in the sale of season tickets alone, may force a change.

Given the speed with which Jacko was replaced, it may well be his successor has already been sounded out.

The problem is with so many out of contract and loanees going back, someone needs to be asssessing what we've got, in the short time until the season ends.
Lawn's statement is not an overwhelming vote of confidence in PP. It suggests to me that he'll see this season out and, the dearth in the sale of season tickets alone, may force a change. Given the speed with which Jacko was replaced, it may well be his successor has already been sounded out. The problem is with so many out of contract and loanees going back, someone needs to be asssessing what we've got, in the short time until the season ends. Pablo

10:16am Wed 4 Apr 12

Waynus1971 says...

I'm one of the "I will buy my season ticket regardless" fans. However, I need reassurances that if we don't stay up, I will still have a club to support before I renew. Is that so wrong?
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That said, if PP is still in charge next season (reading between the lines in some of Lawn's quotes, he may not be), I can't see myself going to many games. As many have said, football is an entertainment and if you aren't being entertained, why would you go? It's like asking film buffs to flock to the cinemas to watch poor movies or concert goers to go watch the dross from the opening rounds of the X-factor.
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No doubt Mick from Cleck will be critical of some posters again and claim we are the minority. However, if that was really true, how come the majority have yet to renew their season tickets? Wake up Mick and be honest with yourself....we have good players at this club and a couple of Chairmen who have done nothing but helped the current boss, yet we are still just 4 points from the bottom 2 and can't beat the teams around us...!
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We do have to get behind the players on Friday and hope that is enough to get us at least a point. However, fans are justifiably nervous and the atmosphere will be filled with tension. As such, PP must go with an attacking formation and go at Southend from the off. If we are creating wave after wave of attacks, the fans will create the atmosphere we need.
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Just my thoughts anyway. I will leave Mick to pick my comments to bits now, LOL
I'm one of the "I will buy my season ticket regardless" fans. However, I need reassurances that if we don't stay up, I will still have a club to support before I renew. Is that so wrong? . That said, if PP is still in charge next season (reading between the lines in some of Lawn's quotes, he may not be), I can't see myself going to many games. As many have said, football is an entertainment and if you aren't being entertained, why would you go? It's like asking film buffs to flock to the cinemas to watch poor movies or concert goers to go watch the dross from the opening rounds of the X-factor. . No doubt Mick from Cleck will be critical of some posters again and claim we are the minority. However, if that was really true, how come the majority have yet to renew their season tickets? Wake up Mick and be honest with yourself....we have good players at this club and a couple of Chairmen who have done nothing but helped the current boss, yet we are still just 4 points from the bottom 2 and can't beat the teams around us...! . We do have to get behind the players on Friday and hope that is enough to get us at least a point. However, fans are justifiably nervous and the atmosphere will be filled with tension. As such, PP must go with an attacking formation and go at Southend from the off. If we are creating wave after wave of attacks, the fans will create the atmosphere we need. . Just my thoughts anyway. I will leave Mick to pick my comments to bits now, LOL Waynus1971

10:17am Wed 4 Apr 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

bwwb wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand?

£2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199.

Great deal.
[quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)[/p][/quote]Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal. Thee Voice of Reason

10:23am Wed 4 Apr 12

Scargutt2 says...

I bought my season ticket on credit card, so i'll recoup my money from my credit card provider if the club goes under.

Not sure how Lawn will get his loan back though?

Mind you he's had nearly half back in interest, so it's not all doom and gloom.
I bought my season ticket on credit card, so i'll recoup my money from my credit card provider if the club goes under. Not sure how Lawn will get his loan back though? Mind you he's had nearly half back in interest, so it's not all doom and gloom. Scargutt2

10:25am Wed 4 Apr 12

Scargutt2 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bwwb wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand?

£2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199.

Great deal.
Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)[/p][/quote]Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.[/p][/quote]Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110. Scargutt2

10:27am Wed 4 Apr 12

al&co says...

Mick McCarthy is in Bradford!
Mick McCarthy is in Bradford! al&co

10:35am Wed 4 Apr 12

parader123 says...

Heres a breakdown of City's form since Parkinson took charge. league games only.
sept. 0 wins,2 draws,3 lost
oct. 2wins, 2 draws, 2 lost
nov. 0 wins, 1 draw, 2 lost
dec. 3 wins, 1 draw, 0 lost
jan. 0wins, 2 draws, 2 lost
feb. 2 wins, 2 draws, 0 lost
mar. 0 wins, 2 draws, 6 lost
apr. ?????????
If the pattern continues then we are due 2 wins during April.
I hope this proves to be the case, heres hoping, its something to cling to.
Heres a breakdown of City's form since Parkinson took charge. league games only. sept. 0 wins,2 draws,3 lost oct. 2wins, 2 draws, 2 lost nov. 0 wins, 1 draw, 2 lost dec. 3 wins, 1 draw, 0 lost jan. 0wins, 2 draws, 2 lost feb. 2 wins, 2 draws, 0 lost mar. 0 wins, 2 draws, 6 lost apr. ????????? If the pattern continues then we are due 2 wins during April. I hope this proves to be the case, heres hoping, its something to cling to. parader123

10:40am Wed 4 Apr 12

fatbloke says...

The statement from Lawn fills with me with confidence becasue if I was PP and read this, I would resign.

May be that is what Lawn is trying to instigate?

Mark, we will support the manager if he was to be less cautious and stop pretending to be Peter Taylor.
The statement from Lawn fills with me with confidence becasue if I was PP and read this, I would resign. May be that is what Lawn is trying to instigate? Mark, we will support the manager if he was to be less cautious and stop pretending to be Peter Taylor. fatbloke

10:42am Wed 4 Apr 12

ALEXIMO.56. says...

al&co wrote:
Mick McCarthy is in Bradford!
He may have come to see the new retail park in centenary square. I've said IF parky gets he boot, McCarthy would be the right man for me. Now that Lawn has said Parky's job is safe, that means his size nine boot could be pollished and ready to use lol.
[quote][p][bold]al&co[/bold] wrote: Mick McCarthy is in Bradford![/p][/quote]He may have come to see the new retail park in centenary square. I've said IF parky gets he boot, McCarthy would be the right man for me. Now that Lawn has said Parky's job is safe, that means his size nine boot could be pollished and ready to use lol. ALEXIMO.56.

10:43am Wed 4 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

bwwb wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
bwwb just point out in my post where I said I would not be renewing my season ticket ???? I will cetainly not be renewing before we have football league status guaranteed as I said in my previous post "I won't get fooled again" as the old Who song goes, I have seen more than the three relegations as your post says in my 54 years of watching Bradford City,but relegation this time will spell the end this time! Mark Lawns own words at a recent "Skipton supporters meeting",I do hope you correct and we don't go out of business, but I would suggest Mark Lawn knows more about Bradford City's potencial survival if we are relegated than you !...
[quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)[/p][/quote]bwwb just point out in my post where I said I would not be renewing my season ticket ???? I will cetainly not be renewing before we have football league status guaranteed as I said in my previous post "I won't get fooled again" as the old Who song goes, I have seen more than the three relegations as your post says in my 54 years of watching Bradford City,but relegation this time will spell the end this time! Mark Lawns own words at a recent "Skipton supporters meeting",I do hope you correct and we don't go out of business, but I would suggest Mark Lawn knows more about Bradford City's potencial survival if we are relegated than you !... nowt fresh

10:56am Wed 4 Apr 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bwwb wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.
Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.
My maths is not flawed yours is.
01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket.
This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal.
So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years.

This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.
[quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)[/p][/quote]Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.[/p][/quote]Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.[/p][/quote]My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club. Thee Voice of Reason

10:57am Wed 4 Apr 12

Dave2610 says...

Parkie 6 games to go so 18 points to play for, on paper it looks like we may only pick points up from 2 out of the 6 games!
But if Mr Parkie Taylor plays to our strengths and attacks cos we are struggling to defend at mo!!
We may surprise ourselves and actually pick a lot more points up. I would rather us play attacking footy and loose 4-3 rather than a negative 0-1 loss!!
In Parkie we trust lol
Parkie 6 games to go so 18 points to play for, on paper it looks like we may only pick points up from 2 out of the 6 games! But if Mr Parkie Taylor plays to our strengths and attacks cos we are struggling to defend at mo!! We may surprise ourselves and actually pick a lot more points up. I would rather us play attacking footy and loose 4-3 rather than a negative 0-1 loss!! In Parkie we trust lol Dave2610

11:00am Wed 4 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bwwb wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.
Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.
My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.
Your bottom two lines say it all TVOR, love it that some on here think getting ripped off for £2500 was a good deal :-(
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)[/p][/quote]Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.[/p][/quote]Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.[/p][/quote]My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.[/p][/quote]Your bottom two lines say it all TVOR, love it that some on here think getting ripped off for £2500 was a good deal :-( nowt fresh

11:18am Wed 4 Apr 12

PHILISAN says...

Mark Lawn is certainly the master of mis-timing..why on earth does he need to issue needless rhetoric, having previously chastised the so called 'moaners'.Now he risks antagonising loyal fans whose passion for the Club is tested to the limit following poor form,a near catastrophic season and a complete reversal from the hype and optimism of pre-season.
Mark Lawn is certainly the master of mis-timing..why on earth does he need to issue needless rhetoric, having previously chastised the so called 'moaners'.Now he risks antagonising loyal fans whose passion for the Club is tested to the limit following poor form,a near catastrophic season and a complete reversal from the hype and optimism of pre-season. PHILISAN

11:29am Wed 4 Apr 12

Waynus1971 says...

I'm one of the "I will buy my season ticket regardless" fans. However, I need reassurances that if we don't stay up, I will still have a club to support before I renew. Is that so wrong?
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That said, if PP is still in charge next season (reading between the lines in some of Lawn's quotes, he may not be), I can't see myself going to many games. As many have said, football is an entertainment and if you aren't being entertained, why would you go? It's like asking film buffs to flock to the cinemas to watch poor movies or concert goers to go watch the dross from the opening rounds of the X-factor.
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No doubt Mick from Cleck will be critical of some posters again and claim we are the minority. However, if that was really true, how come the majority have yet to renew their season tickets? Wake up Mick and be honest with yourself....we have good players at this club and a couple of Chairmen who have done nothing but helped the current boss, yet we are still just 4 points from the bottom 2 and can't beat the teams around us...!
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We do have to get behind the players on Friday and hope that is enough to get us at least a point. However, fans are justifiably nervous and the atmosphere will be filled with tension. As such, PP must go with an attacking formation and go at Southend from the off. If we are creating wave after wave of attacks, the fans will create the atmosphere we need.
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Just my thoughts anyway. I will leave Mick to pick my comments to bits now, LOL
I'm one of the "I will buy my season ticket regardless" fans. However, I need reassurances that if we don't stay up, I will still have a club to support before I renew. Is that so wrong? . That said, if PP is still in charge next season (reading between the lines in some of Lawn's quotes, he may not be), I can't see myself going to many games. As many have said, football is an entertainment and if you aren't being entertained, why would you go? It's like asking film buffs to flock to the cinemas to watch poor movies or concert goers to go watch the dross from the opening rounds of the X-factor. . No doubt Mick from Cleck will be critical of some posters again and claim we are the minority. However, if that was really true, how come the majority have yet to renew their season tickets? Wake up Mick and be honest with yourself....we have good players at this club and a couple of Chairmen who have done nothing but helped the current boss, yet we are still just 4 points from the bottom 2 and can't beat the teams around us...! . We do have to get behind the players on Friday and hope that is enough to get us at least a point. However, fans are justifiably nervous and the atmosphere will be filled with tension. As such, PP must go with an attacking formation and go at Southend from the off. If we are creating wave after wave of attacks, the fans will create the atmosphere we need. . Just my thoughts anyway. I will leave Mick to pick my comments to bits now, LOL Waynus1971

11:36am Wed 4 Apr 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

I don't actually think it is dross, I have been thouroughly entertained for the majority of this season, a few games aside, even when losing we have put in a good effort or had thrills n spills. I will be purchasing my ST next week after Easter, not result dependant I will add. Not division dependant but because I am a City fan and it is what I do.
I don't actually think it is dross, I have been thouroughly entertained for the majority of this season, a few games aside, even when losing we have put in a good effort or had thrills n spills. I will be purchasing my ST next week after Easter, not result dependant I will add. Not division dependant but because I am a City fan and it is what I do. Prisoner Cell Block A

11:46am Wed 4 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
I don't actually think it is dross, I have been thouroughly entertained for the majority of this season, a few games aside, even when losing we have put in a good effort or had thrills n spills. I will be purchasing my ST next week after Easter, not result dependant I will add. Not division dependant but because I am a City fan and it is what I do.
Good for you Prisoner Cell Block A re you purchasing your next season ticket after Easter but the rest of your post is rather frightening to me as I could not have been watching the same games as you at Valley Parade this season, take out at best 5/6 league games and the rest have been dire IMO but then again that's what watching football is all about "opinions".
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: I don't actually think it is dross, I have been thouroughly entertained for the majority of this season, a few games aside, even when losing we have put in a good effort or had thrills n spills. I will be purchasing my ST next week after Easter, not result dependant I will add. Not division dependant but because I am a City fan and it is what I do.[/p][/quote]Good for you Prisoner Cell Block A re you purchasing your next season ticket after Easter but the rest of your post is rather frightening to me as I could not have been watching the same games as you at Valley Parade this season, take out at best 5/6 league games and the rest have been dire IMO but then again that's what watching football is all about "opinions". nowt fresh

11:49am Wed 4 Apr 12

bigang02 says...

i was enjoying reading mark lawns quote until the last paragraph why does he have to have a dig at the supporters .we have done are all for the support we have shown to the team on match days and i wont buy my season ticket until i know we are safe as i can not afford to lose that money if we do go out of existence.i dont really see that happening but i still want to make sure we safe till i buy as do many other supporters on here.and then i only think i gonna get the 50/50.i love city but the last 3 yrs have been a testing time been a fan.we know we got the players we just need the right person to make them work for them and a settled team to take us out of this division and in league 1 .
i was enjoying reading mark lawns quote until the last paragraph why does he have to have a dig at the supporters .we have done are all for the support we have shown to the team on match days and i wont buy my season ticket until i know we are safe as i can not afford to lose that money if we do go out of existence.i dont really see that happening but i still want to make sure we safe till i buy as do many other supporters on here.and then i only think i gonna get the 50/50.i love city but the last 3 yrs have been a testing time been a fan.we know we got the players we just need the right person to make them work for them and a settled team to take us out of this division and in league 1 . bigang02

11:49am Wed 4 Apr 12

theoutsider says...

Phil Parkinson's job safe, says Bradford City chief Mark Lawn

Allow me to translate.

Phil Parkinson will be sacked if we lose the next two games.
Phil Parkinson's job safe, says Bradford City chief Mark Lawn Allow me to translate. Phil Parkinson will be sacked if we lose the next two games. theoutsider

12:02pm Wed 4 Apr 12

TheTruthSetter says...

Oh Mark Lawn sit down and shut up you pathetic little man.

YOU have publicly stated that if City get relegated then that would possibly be the end of the club, so why would people fork out money for a season ticket that they may not be able to use?
Oh Mark Lawn sit down and shut up you pathetic little man. YOU have publicly stated that if City get relegated then that would possibly be the end of the club, so why would people fork out money for a season ticket that they may not be able to use? TheTruthSetter

12:11pm Wed 4 Apr 12

bouncing bantam says...

silverbantam wrote:
I can't believe I actually agree with something Mark Lawn says, but I do. However he should add that he and Rhodes are responsible for this farce of a season. By getting in Archie Christie which totally undermined Peter Jackson and setting up the ridiculous 'development squad' which was a luxury City could not afford. The board have ruined a promising season. All funds should have gone into the first team. No wonder Jacko resigned. He knew we would struggle with such meagre resources. But changing the manager now is a waste of time with only 6 matches left.
I cannot agree with you that the development squad was a luxury - it was and should be the future. We cannot afford to keep bringing in, season after season, so called experienced players, who in the main are at the end of their careers and will never be the future. Or loan signings who are here today gone tomorrow.

The development squad was the foundation for the future. Being able to grow our own players and if all goes well even selling some on at a profit, is the only way forward for a club in our position.

If you cast your mind back, the last great City team was built on the foundation of young, hungry players eager for success. Players such as Stuart McCall, Peter Jackson, Greg Abbott, Lee Palin, John Hendrie etc. They were the foundation that helped us ultimately reach the Premiership. If we want to repeat any of that success, we must build form the ground up.

And it can only be done with a manager (and a board) who believes in that - this manager does not. His persistence with (in the main) poor quality loan signings, rather than giving youth a chance, has been a major factor in my opinion in our demise. They have performed generally below par too often.

But more importantly, who is responsible for setting the direction - Lawn & Rhodes. And in that they have been poor leaders of this club. And in terms of managers - Parkinson and Taylor in particular - they have made some poor choices.

To coin a phrase "You can never win anything with old players, has beens and never will be's".

Whatever happens to this club, the club I have supported and loved for 45 years, after the rubbish he has been responsible for serving up to us as football,we must get rid of Parkinson at the end of the season.
[quote][p][bold]silverbantam[/bold] wrote: I can't believe I actually agree with something Mark Lawn says, but I do. However he should add that he and Rhodes are responsible for this farce of a season. By getting in Archie Christie which totally undermined Peter Jackson and setting up the ridiculous 'development squad' which was a luxury City could not afford. The board have ruined a promising season. All funds should have gone into the first team. No wonder Jacko resigned. He knew we would struggle with such meagre resources. But changing the manager now is a waste of time with only 6 matches left.[/p][/quote]I cannot agree with you that the development squad was a luxury - it was and should be the future. We cannot afford to keep bringing in, season after season, so called experienced players, who in the main are at the end of their careers and will never be the future. Or loan signings who are here today gone tomorrow. The development squad was the foundation for the future. Being able to grow our own players and if all goes well even selling some on at a profit, is the only way forward for a club in our position. If you cast your mind back, the last great City team was built on the foundation of young, hungry players eager for success. Players such as Stuart McCall, Peter Jackson, Greg Abbott, Lee Palin, John Hendrie etc. They were the foundation that helped us ultimately reach the Premiership. If we want to repeat any of that success, we must build form the ground up. And it can only be done with a manager (and a board) who believes in that - this manager does not. His persistence with (in the main) poor quality loan signings, rather than giving youth a chance, has been a major factor in my opinion in our demise. They have performed generally below par too often. But more importantly, who is responsible for setting the direction - Lawn & Rhodes. And in that they have been poor leaders of this club. And in terms of managers - Parkinson and Taylor in particular - they have made some poor choices. To coin a phrase "You can never win anything with old players, has beens and never will be's". Whatever happens to this club, the club I have supported and loved for 45 years, after the rubbish he has been responsible for serving up to us as football,we must get rid of Parkinson at the end of the season. bouncing bantam

12:39pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Cityman23 says...

parader123 wrote:
Heres a breakdown of City's form since Parkinson took charge. league games only.
sept. 0 wins,2 draws,3 lost
oct. 2wins, 2 draws, 2 lost
nov. 0 wins, 1 draw, 2 lost
dec. 3 wins, 1 draw, 0 lost
jan. 0wins, 2 draws, 2 lost
feb. 2 wins, 2 draws, 0 lost
mar. 0 wins, 2 draws, 6 lost
apr. ?????????
If the pattern continues then we are due 2 wins during April.
I hope this proves to be the case, heres hoping, its something to cling to.
Interesting statistic! Yes, if that 'pattern' continues, we would be 'safe'. Let's hope it does!!
[quote][p][bold]parader123[/bold] wrote: Heres a breakdown of City's form since Parkinson took charge. league games only. sept. 0 wins,2 draws,3 lost oct. 2wins, 2 draws, 2 lost nov. 0 wins, 1 draw, 2 lost dec. 3 wins, 1 draw, 0 lost jan. 0wins, 2 draws, 2 lost feb. 2 wins, 2 draws, 0 lost mar. 0 wins, 2 draws, 6 lost apr. ????????? If the pattern continues then we are due 2 wins during April. I hope this proves to be the case, heres hoping, its something to cling to.[/p][/quote]Interesting statistic! Yes, if that 'pattern' continues, we would be 'safe'. Let's hope it does!! Cityman23

12:49pm Wed 4 Apr 12

bingleybantam says...

Slow Season Ticket Sales = Vote of no confidence from the hardcore fans to Lawn & Rhodes.
Slow Season Ticket Sales = Vote of no confidence from the hardcore fans to Lawn & Rhodes. bingleybantam

12:52pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Farsley XI says...

I have held a season ticket since the ground re-opened after the fire. I will support City which ever division they are in. However, why would anyone invest in something which as the potential to fail i.e. go out of business? As stated by the Chairman, who is better placed to make such a statement. This is not a question of loyalty, just common sense.

I have said in the past I don’t mind watching football if you get beaten by a good team and a good goal. It’s the lame excuses I don’t like and the poor tactics. I hope for entertainment.

Mr Lawn said on the radio a few months back that running City was damaging his health and that if the right person was to come along he would happily pass on the responsibility (not exactly in those words). I believe he is a true fan and wants the best for the club. I don’t think he says the right things what fans want to hear, but it’s his style.

Yes we should get behind the team, which is what most fans do. Most fans are frustrated with the current situation; mistakes have been made, as they say the league table doesn’t lie. This is a results business, managers are judged on their performance. This is a forum for opinions, people make their opinions known, you don’t have to agree with them and some may appear to be aggressive or extreme, but they are opinions. If you don’t like them don’t read.
I have held a season ticket since the ground re-opened after the fire. I will support City which ever division they are in. However, why would anyone invest in something which as the potential to fail i.e. go out of business? As stated by the Chairman, who is better placed to make such a statement. This is not a question of loyalty, just common sense. I have said in the past I don’t mind watching football if you get beaten by a good team and a good goal. It’s the lame excuses I don’t like and the poor tactics. I hope for entertainment. Mr Lawn said on the radio a few months back that running City was damaging his health and that if the right person was to come along he would happily pass on the responsibility (not exactly in those words). I believe he is a true fan and wants the best for the club. I don’t think he says the right things what fans want to hear, but it’s his style. Yes we should get behind the team, which is what most fans do. Most fans are frustrated with the current situation; mistakes have been made, as they say the league table doesn’t lie. This is a results business, managers are judged on their performance. This is a forum for opinions, people make their opinions known, you don’t have to agree with them and some may appear to be aggressive or extreme, but they are opinions. If you don’t like them don’t read. Farsley XI

12:56pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Alvechurch73 says...

Your final paragraph hits the nail absolutely on the head. The division we are in is an irrelevance - loyal supporters will always be loyal supporters, but I'm afraid any faith or confidence I, and I think many others, had in this manager has long since evaporated hence the disillusionment. We need change for next season.
Your final paragraph hits the nail absolutely on the head. The division we are in is an irrelevance - loyal supporters will always be loyal supporters, but I'm afraid any faith or confidence I, and I think many others, had in this manager has long since evaporated hence the disillusionment. We need change for next season. Alvechurch73

1:01pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Baildon_Bantam says...

Bring back STUART!!
Bring back STUART!! Baildon_Bantam

1:02pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Cityman23 says...

"HAPPY VALLEY-EXCESS ALL AREAS"

'JOOLS & LAWNEE'

So what 'REALLY' happened BEFORE today's 'T&A' announcement?!!

(in the boardroom-'PP'/ML/JR are in 'discussion' (??)!!)

L: Look Parkie am coomin straight t'point-THIS CAN'T RUDDY WELL GO ON!!

PP: Well..I...

J: We've just launched the season ticket for 2011/12...

L: LAUNCHED!...more like b***dy sunk without trace...at least the 'Titanic' had the excuse of hitting an iceberg!!

J: What Mark's saying..

L: Look ..mate..ah'll put in plain language....we need 3/4 points ...and ASAP!!

J: You see Phil..

L: It's not just YOU'RE ruddy head on the chopping bloke..ya know!! The axe ..is sharpening above OUR heads now...and then we've got that FA 'do' to look forward to!!

PP: Well I can assure you...

L: Look 'subshine' ...never mind the promises, 'get you zippin up the league' you told us. 'I'll do better than 'Jacko'' you said! Those players he brought in were 'c**p'...yeh we've heard it ALL!!

J: what we're saying is...Phil..

L: ..It's bl***y well TIME TO START COMIN' UP WITH THE GOODS..THAT's WHAT!!
Right I'll tell YOU what's going to 'appen'! Ahm goin' to make a statement to the 'T&A'..you know the usual tosh about..the manager 'avin our full support!!

PP: Er..thanks very much Mr Chairm..

L: ...but you're gonna pick a team to take some points...okay? In the next few matches...we want no more excuses...(What was it that 'Shaun of Richmond' said...'deadbeat'?!!
)

'PP' Er..??

J: Mark!!

L: Well we want no more o' it..d'ya understand?
And remember...if the worst comes to the worst you know what you have to do?

'PP' yes..read out a statement ..taking FULL responsibility for the c*** ups..

L: ALL the ruddy...c*** ups!!

J: Er ..and of course PRAISING the joint-chairmen ...for standing by you!!

L: Agreed?

'PP' Agreed!!
"HAPPY VALLEY-EXCESS ALL AREAS" 'JOOLS & LAWNEE' So what 'REALLY' happened BEFORE today's 'T&A' announcement?!! (in the boardroom-'PP'/ML/JR are in 'discussion' (??)!!) L: Look Parkie am coomin straight t'point-THIS CAN'T RUDDY WELL GO ON!! PP: Well..I... J: We've just launched the season ticket for 2011/12... L: LAUNCHED!...more like b***dy sunk without trace...at least the 'Titanic' had the excuse of hitting an iceberg!! J: What Mark's saying.. L: Look ..mate..ah'll put in plain language....we need 3/4 points ...and ASAP!! J: You see Phil.. L: It's not just YOU'RE ruddy head on the chopping bloke..ya know!! The axe ..is sharpening above OUR heads now...and then we've got that FA 'do' to look forward to!! PP: Well I can assure you... L: Look 'subshine' ...never mind the promises, 'get you zippin up the league' you told us. 'I'll do better than 'Jacko'' you said! Those players he brought in were 'c**p'...yeh we've heard it ALL!! J: what we're saying is...Phil.. L: ..It's bl***y well TIME TO START COMIN' UP WITH THE GOODS..THAT's WHAT!! Right I'll tell YOU what's going to 'appen'! Ahm goin' to make a statement to the 'T&A'..you know the usual tosh about..the manager 'avin our full support!! PP: Er..thanks very much Mr Chairm.. L: ...but you're gonna pick a team to take some points...okay? In the next few matches...we want no more excuses...(What was it that 'Shaun of Richmond' said...'deadbeat'?!! ) 'PP' Er..?? J: Mark!! L: Well we want no more o' it..d'ya understand? And remember...if the worst comes to the worst you know what you have to do? 'PP' yes..read out a statement ..taking FULL responsibility for the c*** ups.. L: ALL the ruddy...c*** ups!! J: Er ..and of course PRAISING the joint-chairmen ...for standing by you!! L: Agreed? 'PP' Agreed!! Cityman23

1:03pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Cityman23 says...

correct: season ticket 2012/13!!

Another ..c*** oop!!??
correct: season ticket 2012/13!! Another ..c*** oop!!?? Cityman23

1:28pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Victor Clayton says...

PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season.
PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season. Victor Clayton

1:36pm Wed 4 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

Victor Clayton wrote:
PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season.
Sorry Victor Clayton but football is a results based business and so far nothing suggest to me he has earned the right to have another season at the helm,in fact it's a frightening thought after this seasons debacle !....
[quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season.[/p][/quote]Sorry Victor Clayton but football is a results based business and so far nothing suggest to me he has earned the right to have another season at the helm,in fact it's a frightening thought after this seasons debacle !.... nowt fresh

1:59pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Victor Clayton says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Victor Clayton wrote: PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season.
Sorry Victor Clayton but football is a results based business and so far nothing suggest to me he has earned the right to have another season at the helm,in fact it's a frightening thought after this seasons debacle !....
you might well be right, but it can not be a coincidence that our last 3 (at least) managers have struggled. can't help thinking there has been some input from above, especially with regards to Jackos player.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season.[/p][/quote]Sorry Victor Clayton but football is a results based business and so far nothing suggest to me he has earned the right to have another season at the helm,in fact it's a frightening thought after this seasons debacle !....[/p][/quote]you might well be right, but it can not be a coincidence that our last 3 (at least) managers have struggled. can't help thinking there has been some input from above, especially with regards to Jackos player. Victor Clayton

2:03pm Wed 4 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

Victor Clayton wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Victor Clayton wrote: PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season.
Sorry Victor Clayton but football is a results based business and so far nothing suggest to me he has earned the right to have another season at the helm,in fact it's a frightening thought after this seasons debacle !....
you might well be right, but it can not be a coincidence that our last 3 (at least) managers have struggled. can't help thinking there has been some input from above, especially with regards to Jackos player.
"can't help thinking there has been some input from above" by that comment you mean God ?. :-)
[quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season.[/p][/quote]Sorry Victor Clayton but football is a results based business and so far nothing suggest to me he has earned the right to have another season at the helm,in fact it's a frightening thought after this seasons debacle !....[/p][/quote]you might well be right, but it can not be a coincidence that our last 3 (at least) managers have struggled. can't help thinking there has been some input from above, especially with regards to Jackos player.[/p][/quote]"can't help thinking there has been some input from above" by that comment you mean God ?. :-) nowt fresh

2:14pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Victor Clayton says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Victor Clayton wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Victor Clayton wrote: PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season.
Sorry Victor Clayton but football is a results based business and so far nothing suggest to me he has earned the right to have another season at the helm,in fact it's a frightening thought after this seasons debacle !....
you might well be right, but it can not be a coincidence that our last 3 (at least) managers have struggled. can't help thinking there has been some input from above, especially with regards to Jackos player.
"can't help thinking there has been some input from above" by that comment you mean God ?. :-)
not sure i would go that far!
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season.[/p][/quote]Sorry Victor Clayton but football is a results based business and so far nothing suggest to me he has earned the right to have another season at the helm,in fact it's a frightening thought after this seasons debacle !....[/p][/quote]you might well be right, but it can not be a coincidence that our last 3 (at least) managers have struggled. can't help thinking there has been some input from above, especially with regards to Jackos player.[/p][/quote]"can't help thinking there has been some input from above" by that comment you mean God ?. :-)[/p][/quote]not sure i would go that far! Victor Clayton

2:19pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Oliver Twist says...

Just a pity i am City fan because frankly if i was a follower of another club then frankly Lawn deserves all he gets for fooking Jacko about...............
....................
............... DO US ALL A FAVOUR LAWN PUT THE CLUB UP FOR SALE ASAP THE CITY FANS HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOU AND YOU PATHETIC ANTICS
Just a pity i am City fan because frankly if i was a follower of another club then frankly Lawn deserves all he gets for fooking Jacko about............... .................... ............... DO US ALL A FAVOUR LAWN PUT THE CLUB UP FOR SALE ASAP THE CITY FANS HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOU AND YOU PATHETIC ANTICS Oliver Twist

2:28pm Wed 4 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

Victor Clayton wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Victor Clayton wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Victor Clayton wrote: PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season.
Sorry Victor Clayton but football is a results based business and so far nothing suggest to me he has earned the right to have another season at the helm,in fact it's a frightening thought after this seasons debacle !....
you might well be right, but it can not be a coincidence that our last 3 (at least) managers have struggled. can't help thinking there has been some input from above, especially with regards to Jackos player.
"can't help thinking there has been some input from above" by that comment you mean God ?. :-)
not sure i would go that far!
Didn't mean God as "the father the son and the holy ghost" I ment God with the following initials ML ?.
[quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season.[/p][/quote]Sorry Victor Clayton but football is a results based business and so far nothing suggest to me he has earned the right to have another season at the helm,in fact it's a frightening thought after this seasons debacle !....[/p][/quote]you might well be right, but it can not be a coincidence that our last 3 (at least) managers have struggled. can't help thinking there has been some input from above, especially with regards to Jackos player.[/p][/quote]"can't help thinking there has been some input from above" by that comment you mean God ?. :-)[/p][/quote]not sure i would go that far![/p][/quote]Didn't mean God as "the father the son and the holy ghost" I ment God with the following initials ML ?. nowt fresh

2:32pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Scargutt2 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bwwb wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.
Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.
My maths is not flawed yours is.
01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket.
This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal.
So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years.

This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.
I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way.

I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)[/p][/quote]Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.[/p][/quote]Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.[/p][/quote]My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.[/p][/quote]I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn. Scargutt2

2:38pm Wed 4 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bwwb wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.
Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.
My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.
I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.
Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)
[quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)[/p][/quote]Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.[/p][/quote]Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.[/p][/quote]My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.[/p][/quote]I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.[/p][/quote]Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-) nowt fresh

2:41pm Wed 4 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

The above should read :Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 years old but I'm not for the knackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)”
The above should read :Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 years old but I'm not for the knackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)” nowt fresh

2:42pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
I don't actually think it is dross, I have been thouroughly entertained for the majority of this season, a few games aside, even when losing we have put in a good effort or had thrills n spills. I will be purchasing my ST next week after Easter, not result dependant I will add. Not division dependant but because I am a City fan and it is what I do.
Good for you Prisoner Cell Block A re you purchasing your next season ticket after Easter but the rest of your post is rather frightening to me as I could not have been watching the same games as you at Valley Parade this season, take out at best 5/6 league games and the rest have been dire IMO but then again that's what watching football is all about "opinions".
I've enjoyed the season mostly, from the turbulent beginnings with the Jacko situ to the Christe farce. The games have been far more entertaining than any under Taylor, I was holding back tears of boredom when we beat Stevenage last season but on the edge of my seat v Bristol Rovers, Crawley, Gillingham etc etc.

I will buying if we had been promoted, relegated or static, anything is better than shopping, gardening or decorating, and that would be my given option if I were around on Saturdays.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: I don't actually think it is dross, I have been thouroughly entertained for the majority of this season, a few games aside, even when losing we have put in a good effort or had thrills n spills. I will be purchasing my ST next week after Easter, not result dependant I will add. Not division dependant but because I am a City fan and it is what I do.[/p][/quote]Good for you Prisoner Cell Block A re you purchasing your next season ticket after Easter but the rest of your post is rather frightening to me as I could not have been watching the same games as you at Valley Parade this season, take out at best 5/6 league games and the rest have been dire IMO but then again that's what watching football is all about "opinions".[/p][/quote]I've enjoyed the season mostly, from the turbulent beginnings with the Jacko situ to the Christe farce. The games have been far more entertaining than any under Taylor, I was holding back tears of boredom when we beat Stevenage last season but on the edge of my seat v Bristol Rovers, Crawley, Gillingham etc etc. I will buying if we had been promoted, relegated or static, anything is better than shopping, gardening or decorating, and that would be my given option if I were around on Saturdays. Prisoner Cell Block A

2:45pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Scargutt2 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bwwb wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.
Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.
My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.
I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.
Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)
Haha, I was not trying to be morbid - and I certainly hope you are around the next time City are in the premier league, although I rather suspect you don't mean next year's potential drop in to the Blue Square Premier!
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)[/p][/quote]Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.[/p][/quote]Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.[/p][/quote]My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.[/p][/quote]I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.[/p][/quote]Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)[/p][/quote]Haha, I was not trying to be morbid - and I certainly hope you are around the next time City are in the premier league, although I rather suspect you don't mean next year's potential drop in to the Blue Square Premier! Scargutt2

2:50pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bwwb wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.
Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.
My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.
I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.
Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)
The discounts won't continue indefinately, you've been proven hopelessly wrong and instead of admitting so, are making up utter garbage to try back up your claims that they are a good deal.

I'm sure you'll find someone who'll sell you one on for it's remainder.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)[/p][/quote]Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.[/p][/quote]Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.[/p][/quote]My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.[/p][/quote]I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.[/p][/quote]Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)[/p][/quote]The discounts won't continue indefinately, you've been proven hopelessly wrong and instead of admitting so, are making up utter garbage to try back up your claims that they are a good deal. I'm sure you'll find someone who'll sell you one on for it's remainder. Thee Voice of Reason

2:57pm Wed 4 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

Scargutt2 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bwwb wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.
Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.
My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.
I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.
Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)
Haha, I was not trying to be morbid - and I certainly hope you are around the next time City are in the premier league, although I rather suspect you don't mean next year's potential drop in to the Blue Square Premier!
"I rather suspect you don't mean next year's potential drop in to the Blue Square Premier" I don't like the thought of it Scargutt2 but after 54 years of watching the lads I've learnt not to disgard anything out of hand,been there done it bought the tee shirt, but our present position is worrying me more than at any other time of supporting Bradford City as before it was a case of the old pals act buttering up other clubs chairmen to get re elected but in this day and age it's bottom two and your out, and in Bradford City's case that could mean "out of existance" if Mark Lawn is to be believed, and I for one believe him !...
[quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)[/p][/quote]Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.[/p][/quote]Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.[/p][/quote]My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.[/p][/quote]I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.[/p][/quote]Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)[/p][/quote]Haha, I was not trying to be morbid - and I certainly hope you are around the next time City are in the premier league, although I rather suspect you don't mean next year's potential drop in to the Blue Square Premier![/p][/quote]"I rather suspect you don't mean next year's potential drop in to the Blue Square Premier" I don't like the thought of it Scargutt2 but after 54 years of watching the lads I've learnt not to disgard anything out of hand,been there done it bought the tee shirt, but our present position is worrying me more than at any other time of supporting Bradford City as before it was a case of the old pals act buttering up other clubs chairmen to get re elected but in this day and age it's bottom two and your out, and in Bradford City's case that could mean "out of existance" if Mark Lawn is to be believed, and I for one believe him !... nowt fresh

2:58pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bwwb wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.
Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.
My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.
I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.
Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)
The discounts won't continue indefinately, you've been proven hopelessly wrong and instead of admitting so, are making up utter garbage to try back up your claims that they are a good deal. I'm sure you'll find someone who'll sell you one on for it's remainder.
I'll like to add 25 year ticket holders have been asked for about £1000 extra in season by season fees on top of their initial outlay.

I see 20 years at the absolute maximum these will run for which would make it about £125 per season, then add on the additional fee, which next season is £120, so whilst your paying £199, the 25 year holders will be paying £245, based on 20 years, still more than you will be.

These people are warning you off at what could happen, yet you seem to think they got a good deal.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)[/p][/quote]Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.[/p][/quote]Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.[/p][/quote]My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.[/p][/quote]I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.[/p][/quote]Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)[/p][/quote]The discounts won't continue indefinately, you've been proven hopelessly wrong and instead of admitting so, are making up utter garbage to try back up your claims that they are a good deal. I'm sure you'll find someone who'll sell you one on for it's remainder.[/p][/quote]I'll like to add 25 year ticket holders have been asked for about £1000 extra in season by season fees on top of their initial outlay. I see 20 years at the absolute maximum these will run for which would make it about £125 per season, then add on the additional fee, which next season is £120, so whilst your paying £199, the 25 year holders will be paying £245, based on 20 years, still more than you will be. These people are warning you off at what could happen, yet you seem to think they got a good deal. Thee Voice of Reason

3:04pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Scargutt2 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bwwb wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.
Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.
My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.
I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.
Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)
The discounts won't continue indefinately, you've been proven hopelessly wrong and instead of admitting so, are making up utter garbage to try back up your claims that they are a good deal. I'm sure you'll find someone who'll sell you one on for it's remainder.
I'll like to add 25 year ticket holders have been asked for about £1000 extra in season by season fees on top of their initial outlay.

I see 20 years at the absolute maximum these will run for which would make it about £125 per season, then add on the additional fee, which next season is £120, so whilst your paying £199, the 25 year holders will be paying £245, based on 20 years, still more than you will be.

These people are warning you off at what could happen, yet you seem to think they got a good deal.
Last attempt from me. I was only talking about mathematics, not whether the tickets were a good deal or whether anyone should be buying one.

Try reading what i've written again and you might understand that.

If you still don't, there's not much I can do to help you.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)[/p][/quote]Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.[/p][/quote]Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.[/p][/quote]My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.[/p][/quote]I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.[/p][/quote]Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)[/p][/quote]The discounts won't continue indefinately, you've been proven hopelessly wrong and instead of admitting so, are making up utter garbage to try back up your claims that they are a good deal. I'm sure you'll find someone who'll sell you one on for it's remainder.[/p][/quote]I'll like to add 25 year ticket holders have been asked for about £1000 extra in season by season fees on top of their initial outlay. I see 20 years at the absolute maximum these will run for which would make it about £125 per season, then add on the additional fee, which next season is £120, so whilst your paying £199, the 25 year holders will be paying £245, based on 20 years, still more than you will be. These people are warning you off at what could happen, yet you seem to think they got a good deal.[/p][/quote]Last attempt from me. I was only talking about mathematics, not whether the tickets were a good deal or whether anyone should be buying one. Try reading what i've written again and you might understand that. If you still don't, there's not much I can do to help you. Scargutt2

3:28pm Wed 4 Apr 12

bwwb says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bwwb wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.
To make it clear, not only have I held a season ticket since 1962/3 but also bought 3 25 year season tickets. I am also aware that under the 2003 admin the 25 years was shortened to 15 years and runs out in 2013/4. If we get relegated no discount will be applied next year.
I understand fully what £2500 means
I will however continue to support the club whether or not I get a discount
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)[/p][/quote]Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.[/p][/quote]To make it clear, not only have I held a season ticket since 1962/3 but also bought 3 25 year season tickets. I am also aware that under the 2003 admin the 25 years was shortened to 15 years and runs out in 2013/4. If we get relegated no discount will be applied next year. I understand fully what £2500 means I will however continue to support the club whether or not I get a discount bwwb

3:41pm Wed 4 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

bwwb wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bwwb wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.
To make it clear, not only have I held a season ticket since 1962/3 but also bought 3 25 year season tickets. I am also aware that under the 2003 admin the 25 years was shortened to 15 years and runs out in 2013/4. If we get relegated no discount will be applied next year. I understand fully what £2500 means I will however continue to support the club whether or not I get a discount
Well may be your in a better financial position than me bwwb I also go back to the late 50s watching City but don't understand why you attack my comment re Mark Lawn:now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it,don't think that is an unrealistic opinon to hold,if we still have a football club to follow then I will more than likely purchase 2 one for me and one for my grandson, if that meets with your approval bwwb
[quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)[/p][/quote]Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.[/p][/quote]To make it clear, not only have I held a season ticket since 1962/3 but also bought 3 25 year season tickets. I am also aware that under the 2003 admin the 25 years was shortened to 15 years and runs out in 2013/4. If we get relegated no discount will be applied next year. I understand fully what £2500 means I will however continue to support the club whether or not I get a discount[/p][/quote]Well may be your in a better financial position than me bwwb I also go back to the late 50s watching City but don't understand why you attack my comment re Mark Lawn:now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it,don't think that is an unrealistic opinon to hold,if we still have a football club to follow then I will more than likely purchase 2 one for me and one for my grandson, if that meets with your approval bwwb nowt fresh

4:02pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bwwb wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.
Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.
My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.
I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.
Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)
The discounts won't continue indefinately, you've been proven hopelessly wrong and instead of admitting so, are making up utter garbage to try back up your claims that they are a good deal. I'm sure you'll find someone who'll sell you one on for it's remainder.
I'll like to add 25 year ticket holders have been asked for about £1000 extra in season by season fees on top of their initial outlay. I see 20 years at the absolute maximum these will run for which would make it about £125 per season, then add on the additional fee, which next season is £120, so whilst your paying £199, the 25 year holders will be paying £245, based on 20 years, still more than you will be. These people are warning you off at what could happen, yet you seem to think they got a good deal.
Last attempt from me. I was only talking about mathematics, not whether the tickets were a good deal or whether anyone should be buying one. Try reading what i've written again and you might understand that. If you still don't, there's not much I can do to help you.
Someone who knows better about the situation than me has confirmed the 25 year tickets were reduced to 15. This puts the indefinately rubbish to bed. So really we see £2500 divided by 15 which is £167, then add next years season fee of £120 and the 25 years will be paying £287 for their season ticket next year compared to £199 for the non 25 years.

My maths have been correct all along on this. It is you who can't see what is being said.

You've been proved totally wrong yet still won't admit it. Indefinate discount, sigh.
[quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)[/p][/quote]Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.[/p][/quote]Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.[/p][/quote]My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.[/p][/quote]I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.[/p][/quote]Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)[/p][/quote]The discounts won't continue indefinately, you've been proven hopelessly wrong and instead of admitting so, are making up utter garbage to try back up your claims that they are a good deal. I'm sure you'll find someone who'll sell you one on for it's remainder.[/p][/quote]I'll like to add 25 year ticket holders have been asked for about £1000 extra in season by season fees on top of their initial outlay. I see 20 years at the absolute maximum these will run for which would make it about £125 per season, then add on the additional fee, which next season is £120, so whilst your paying £199, the 25 year holders will be paying £245, based on 20 years, still more than you will be. These people are warning you off at what could happen, yet you seem to think they got a good deal.[/p][/quote]Last attempt from me. I was only talking about mathematics, not whether the tickets were a good deal or whether anyone should be buying one. Try reading what i've written again and you might understand that. If you still don't, there's not much I can do to help you.[/p][/quote]Someone who knows better about the situation than me has confirmed the 25 year tickets were reduced to 15. This puts the indefinately rubbish to bed. So really we see £2500 divided by 15 which is £167, then add next years season fee of £120 and the 25 years will be paying £287 for their season ticket next year compared to £199 for the non 25 years. My maths have been correct all along on this. It is you who can't see what is being said. You've been proved totally wrong yet still won't admit it. Indefinate discount, sigh. Thee Voice of Reason

4:14pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Nickloza says...

I know it's off subject but it's just come out from Crawley Town FC and I quote "A welcoming family club" about the punishment to their players http://www1.skysport
s.com/football/news/
11750/7650051/
I know it's off subject but it's just come out from Crawley Town FC and I quote "A welcoming family club" about the punishment to their players http://www1.skysport s.com/football/news/ 11750/7650051/ Nickloza

4:32pm Wed 4 Apr 12

citytilidie465 says...

good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.
good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points. citytilidie465

4:34pm Wed 4 Apr 12

citytilidie465 says...

good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.
good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points. citytilidie465

4:34pm Wed 4 Apr 12

citytilidie465 says...

good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.
good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points. citytilidie465

4:47pm Wed 4 Apr 12

prince35 says...

Who gives a monkeys over the 25 yr season tkt debate.
Fans got ripped off end of subject.
Who gives a monkeys over the 25 yr season tkt debate. Fans got ripped off end of subject. prince35

4:50pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Scargutt2 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Scargutt2 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bwwb wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)
Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.
Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.
My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.
I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.
Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)
The discounts won't continue indefinately, you've been proven hopelessly wrong and instead of admitting so, are making up utter garbage to try back up your claims that they are a good deal. I'm sure you'll find someone who'll sell you one on for it's remainder.
I'll like to add 25 year ticket holders have been asked for about £1000 extra in season by season fees on top of their initial outlay. I see 20 years at the absolute maximum these will run for which would make it about £125 per season, then add on the additional fee, which next season is £120, so whilst your paying £199, the 25 year holders will be paying £245, based on 20 years, still more than you will be. These people are warning you off at what could happen, yet you seem to think they got a good deal.
Last attempt from me. I was only talking about mathematics, not whether the tickets were a good deal or whether anyone should be buying one. Try reading what i've written again and you might understand that. If you still don't, there's not much I can do to help you.
Someone who knows better about the situation than me has confirmed the 25 year tickets were reduced to 15. This puts the indefinately rubbish to bed. So really we see £2500 divided by 15 which is £167, then add next years season fee of £120 and the 25 years will be paying £287 for their season ticket next year compared to £199 for the non 25 years.

My maths have been correct all along on this. It is you who can't see what is being said.

You've been proved totally wrong yet still won't admit it. Indefinate discount, sigh.
Au contraire, I am man enough to admit that I had no prior knowledge of the 25 years being reduced to 15. But nor did you, so our arguments although hypothetically correct were both wrong due to insufficient knowledge of the subject. Nowt Fresh kindly put us out of our misery - thanks for clearing it up young man!


Fortunately you've been enough of a **** about it that I really don't feel too bad, although it is encountering people like you that really puts me off this website.

And it's 'indefinitely'. there's no 'a' in it. (I can be a **** too, for all the good it'll do me)
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scargutt2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwwb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)[/p][/quote]Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.[/p][/quote]Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.[/p][/quote]My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.[/p][/quote]I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.[/p][/quote]Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)[/p][/quote]The discounts won't continue indefinately, you've been proven hopelessly wrong and instead of admitting so, are making up utter garbage to try back up your claims that they are a good deal. I'm sure you'll find someone who'll sell you one on for it's remainder.[/p][/quote]I'll like to add 25 year ticket holders have been asked for about £1000 extra in season by season fees on top of their initial outlay. I see 20 years at the absolute maximum these will run for which would make it about £125 per season, then add on the additional fee, which next season is £120, so whilst your paying £199, the 25 year holders will be paying £245, based on 20 years, still more than you will be. These people are warning you off at what could happen, yet you seem to think they got a good deal.[/p][/quote]Last attempt from me. I was only talking about mathematics, not whether the tickets were a good deal or whether anyone should be buying one. Try reading what i've written again and you might understand that. If you still don't, there's not much I can do to help you.[/p][/quote]Someone who knows better about the situation than me has confirmed the 25 year tickets were reduced to 15. This puts the indefinately rubbish to bed. So really we see £2500 divided by 15 which is £167, then add next years season fee of £120 and the 25 years will be paying £287 for their season ticket next year compared to £199 for the non 25 years. My maths have been correct all along on this. It is you who can't see what is being said. You've been proved totally wrong yet still won't admit it. Indefinate discount, sigh.[/p][/quote]Au contraire, I am man enough to admit that I had no prior knowledge of the 25 years being reduced to 15. But nor did you, so our arguments although hypothetically correct were both wrong due to insufficient knowledge of the subject. Nowt Fresh kindly put us out of our misery - thanks for clearing it up young man! Fortunately you've been enough of a **** about it that I really don't feel too bad, although it is encountering people like you that really puts me off this website. And it's 'indefinitely'. there's no 'a' in it. (I can be a **** too, for all the good it'll do me) Scargutt2

4:55pm Wed 4 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

prince35 wrote:
Who gives a monkeys over the 25 yr season tkt debate. Fans got ripped off end of subject.
And FU2 prince35 !....end of subject.
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Who gives a monkeys over the 25 yr season tkt debate. Fans got ripped off end of subject.[/p][/quote]And FU2 prince35 !....end of subject. nowt fresh

4:58pm Wed 4 Apr 12

moanmoanwhingewhinge says...

prince35 wrote:
Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.
ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.[/p][/quote]ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team moanmoanwhingewhinge

5:01pm Wed 4 Apr 12

prince35 says...

@nowtfresh.
Just silly to be banging on about the past.
Go see Richmond!!!.
Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.
@nowtfresh. Just silly to be banging on about the past. Go see Richmond!!!. Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off. prince35

5:02pm Wed 4 Apr 12

moanmoanwhingewhinge says...

citytilidie465 wrote:
good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.
Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do
[quote][p][bold]citytilidie465[/bold] wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.[/p][/quote]Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do moanmoanwhingewhinge

5:06pm Wed 4 Apr 12

340stopper says...

Nickloza wrote:
I know it's off subject but it's just come out from Crawley Town FC and I quote "A welcoming family club" about the punishment to their players http://www1.skysport s.com/football/news/ 11750/7650051/
It can be read in full on the CTFC web site.All three players fined two weeks wages (i think the maximum they can do) and Pablo Mills stripped of the captaincy.
Interesting to note no apologies from our players yet (or have i missed it) and the fudged wording of Claude Davis apology for his "REACTIVE behaviour"
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: I know it's off subject but it's just come out from Crawley Town FC and I quote "A welcoming family club" about the punishment to their players http://www1.skysport s.com/football/news/ 11750/7650051/[/p][/quote]It can be read in full on the CTFC web site.All three players fined two weeks wages (i think the maximum they can do) and Pablo Mills stripped of the captaincy. Interesting to note no apologies from our players yet (or have i missed it) and the fudged wording of Claude Davis apology for his "REACTIVE behaviour" 340stopper

5:12pm Wed 4 Apr 12

340stopper says...

ML has urged city fans to get behind PP in City's hour of need,i am sure the vast majority will as they have been doing since he took charge.
After all it is in all our interests.
I wonder if ML has urged the players to get behind PP has it is mostly down to them to win sufficient points - despite who is picked by PP or which tactics he decides is appropiate.
ML has urged city fans to get behind PP in City's hour of need,i am sure the vast majority will as they have been doing since he took charge. After all it is in all our interests. I wonder if ML has urged the players to get behind PP has it is mostly down to them to win sufficient points - despite who is picked by PP or which tactics he decides is appropiate. 340stopper

5:12pm Wed 4 Apr 12

ricky76 says...

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.
ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team
I am still waiting for shaun and co to answer my questions over the last few weeks if PP was sacked who would they want in charge and why and also why is shaun so pro jacko when his record was so bad
[quote][p][bold]moanmoanwhingewhinge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.[/p][/quote]ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team[/p][/quote]I am still waiting for shaun and co to answer my questions over the last few weeks if PP was sacked who would they want in charge and why and also why is shaun so pro jacko when his record was so bad ricky76

5:18pm Wed 4 Apr 12

northyorksbantam says...

I think for once ML has opened his mouth at the right time. At least everybody, especially the fans and PP knows the boards stance on this, which surely has been the question everybody wanted to know, so everybody can settle down and back the team for the rest of the season without any ifs and buts.

Not sure why some are twisting Lawns words around suggesting that this means PP will be sacked in 2 games etc etc. He has explained why PP will still be here and I have to agree with him. The only viable alternative would be PP's sidekick Parkin as he knows the players, but whats the point in that, then we're down to managers out of work who don't know the players.

PP now has to be accountable for this terrible situation we are in and has 6 games to turn it around and keep us up. He surely has a lot of explaining to do at the end of the season if we do manage it, and ifs he's not willing to hold his hands up, and offer an alternative to what we have seen this season then he shouldn't be here.
I think for once ML has opened his mouth at the right time. At least everybody, especially the fans and PP knows the boards stance on this, which surely has been the question everybody wanted to know, so everybody can settle down and back the team for the rest of the season without any ifs and buts. Not sure why some are twisting Lawns words around suggesting that this means PP will be sacked in 2 games etc etc. He has explained why PP will still be here and I have to agree with him. The only viable alternative would be PP's sidekick Parkin as he knows the players, but whats the point in that, then we're down to managers out of work who don't know the players. PP now has to be accountable for this terrible situation we are in and has 6 games to turn it around and keep us up. He surely has a lot of explaining to do at the end of the season if we do manage it, and ifs he's not willing to hold his hands up, and offer an alternative to what we have seen this season then he shouldn't be here. northyorksbantam

5:22pm Wed 4 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

prince35 wrote:
@nowtfresh. Just silly to be banging on about the past. Go see Richmond!!!. Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.
No prince35 thisis what you posted: prince35 says...
4:47pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Who gives a monkeys over the 25 yr season tkt debate.
Fans got ripped off end of subject.”
nothing like : Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: @nowtfresh. Just silly to be banging on about the past. Go see Richmond!!!. Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.[/p][/quote]No prince35 thisis what you posted: prince35 says... 4:47pm Wed 4 Apr 12 Who gives a monkeys over the 25 yr season tkt debate. Fans got ripped off end of subject.” nothing like : Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off. nowt fresh

5:23pm Wed 4 Apr 12

prince35 says...

@moanmoanwhingewhing
e.
I sincerly hope chairman lawn does read these comments and does decide to pull his money out.
Chairman lawn put in 1 million loan with interest attached allegedly??.
Well why not us the loyal supportw
er get together and raise the 1 mil and give chairman lawn his money back and appoint our own elected cty supporter to represent us on the bradford cty board!!!.
At least we can vote on who the electorate would be if were not hapoy vote somebody else onto the board.
@moanmoanwhingewhing e. I sincerly hope chairman lawn does read these comments and does decide to pull his money out. Chairman lawn put in 1 million loan with interest attached allegedly??. Well why not us the loyal supportw er get together and raise the 1 mil and give chairman lawn his money back and appoint our own elected cty supporter to represent us on the bradford cty board!!!. At least we can vote on who the electorate would be if were not hapoy vote somebody else onto the board. prince35

5:29pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Nickloza says...

ricky76 wrote:
moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.
ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team
I am still waiting for shaun and co to answer my questions over the last few weeks if PP was sacked who would they want in charge and why and also why is shaun so pro jacko when his record was so bad
I have asked the same question and as of yet received only abuse for being 'pro Parky' when actually I'm pro City, he is the current manager like it or not and as fans its our job to get behind the club especially in our current predicament. Its no good saying after every result 'sack PP ML out' they never give an alternative solution. If they have one I along with every other city fan would love to hear it. Bearing in mind there is no-one knocking on the door with bags of money to throw at the club. So once again we need to go with what we have got and SUPPORT the club.
[quote][p][bold]ricky76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moanmoanwhingewhinge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.[/p][/quote]ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team[/p][/quote]I am still waiting for shaun and co to answer my questions over the last few weeks if PP was sacked who would they want in charge and why and also why is shaun so pro jacko when his record was so bad[/p][/quote]I have asked the same question and as of yet received only abuse for being 'pro Parky' when actually I'm pro City, he is the current manager like it or not and as fans its our job to get behind the club especially in our current predicament. Its no good saying after every result 'sack PP ML out' they never give an alternative solution. If they have one I along with every other city fan would love to hear it. Bearing in mind there is no-one knocking on the door with bags of money to throw at the club. So once again we need to go with what we have got and SUPPORT the club. Nickloza

5:29pm Wed 4 Apr 12

shaun from richmond says...

prince35 wrote:
Who gives a monkeys over the 25 yr season tkt debate. Fans got ripped off end of subject.
I sure did!!
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Who gives a monkeys over the 25 yr season tkt debate. Fans got ripped off end of subject.[/p][/quote]I sure did!! shaun from richmond

5:36pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Nickloza says...

prince35 wrote:
@moanmoanwhingewhing

e.
I sincerly hope chairman lawn does read these comments and does decide to pull his money out.
Chairman lawn put in 1 million loan with interest attached allegedly??.
Well why not us the loyal supportw
er get together and raise the 1 mil and give chairman lawn his money back and appoint our own elected cty supporter to represent us on the bradford cty board!!!.
At least we can vote on who the electorate would be if were not hapoy vote somebody else onto the board.
And how much are you going to start the fund off with?
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: @moanmoanwhingewhing e. I sincerly hope chairman lawn does read these comments and does decide to pull his money out. Chairman lawn put in 1 million loan with interest attached allegedly??. Well why not us the loyal supportw er get together and raise the 1 mil and give chairman lawn his money back and appoint our own elected cty supporter to represent us on the bradford cty board!!!. At least we can vote on who the electorate would be if were not hapoy vote somebody else onto the board.[/p][/quote]And how much are you going to start the fund off with? Nickloza

5:36pm Wed 4 Apr 12

KnightMcCall says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
LAWN can Support "Deadbeat" all he wants!!!......BUT I WONT!!. After stabbing "Jacko" in the back then trying to humiliate him.....LAWN can shove it!!. "DEADBEAT OUT"!!
Shaun, just two things. Firstly, is it too much to ask that you stop being so offensive towards the manager of the football team that you support.

Secondly; given that you have such a strong dislike of Mark Lawn for what you believe he did to Jacko; shouldn't you direct your anger at Lawn rather than PP?
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: LAWN can Support "Deadbeat" all he wants!!!......BUT I WONT!!. After stabbing "Jacko" in the back then trying to humiliate him.....LAWN can shove it!!. "DEADBEAT OUT"!![/p][/quote]Shaun, just two things. Firstly, is it too much to ask that you stop being so offensive towards the manager of the football team that you support. Secondly; given that you have such a strong dislike of Mark Lawn for what you believe he did to Jacko; shouldn't you direct your anger at Lawn rather than PP? KnightMcCall

5:36pm Wed 4 Apr 12

shaun from richmond says...

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:
citytilidie465 wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.
Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do
Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!.
"Deadbeat"OUT!!.
[quote][p][bold]moanmoanwhingewhinge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]citytilidie465[/bold] wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.[/p][/quote]Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do[/p][/quote]Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!. "Deadbeat"OUT!!. shaun from richmond

5:49pm Wed 4 Apr 12

prince35 says...

@nickloza.
Well I do have my unemployment benefit I can ii???
@nickloza. Well I do have my unemployment benefit I can ii??? prince35

6:24pm Wed 4 Apr 12

KnightMcCall says...

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:
prince35 wrote: Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.
ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team
Absolutely brilliant!
[quote][p][bold]moanmoanwhingewhinge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.[/p][/quote]ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team[/p][/quote]Absolutely brilliant! KnightMcCall

6:36pm Wed 4 Apr 12

eebygum says...

Well done to all the genuine supporters who have the sense to realise that sacking managers doesn't always work. A part from the cost as Mr Lawn has pointed out who do you replace them with who's available who's going to make an instant impact most important he's got to work with exactly the same squad we have now. It will be swings and round abouts as it always is. Sacking the manager will cost money and would come from the player budget also that in it's self could also be the straw that broke the camals back and throw us into financial difficulties if the plan backfires. Where are all those who keep posting on here City Till I Die?
Well done to all the genuine supporters who have the sense to realise that sacking managers doesn't always work. A part from the cost as Mr Lawn has pointed out who do you replace them with who's available who's going to make an instant impact most important he's got to work with exactly the same squad we have now. It will be swings and round abouts as it always is. Sacking the manager will cost money and would come from the player budget also that in it's self could also be the straw that broke the camals back and throw us into financial difficulties if the plan backfires. Where are all those who keep posting on here City Till I Die? eebygum

6:38pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Nickloza says...

prince35 wrote:
@nickloza.
Well I do have my unemployment benefit I can ii???
why don't you invest all your wealth into Man city I'm sure you could by out Sheikh Mansour,
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: @nickloza. Well I do have my unemployment benefit I can ii???[/p][/quote]why don't you invest all your wealth into Man city I'm sure you could by out Sheikh Mansour, Nickloza

6:47pm Wed 4 Apr 12

eebygum says...

For all those people who are predicting doom and gloom why don't you all club together and put your millions into getting rid of the 2 chairmen and start a mutual club run by the fans but let it be demacratic in who we have as manager. Too many people come on here and ask for Rhodes and Lawn out who's got the money to buy them out? So I'm afraid were stuck with them until someone does.
For all those people who are predicting doom and gloom why don't you all club together and put your millions into getting rid of the 2 chairmen and start a mutual club run by the fans but let it be demacratic in who we have as manager. Too many people come on here and ask for Rhodes and Lawn out who's got the money to buy them out? So I'm afraid were stuck with them until someone does. eebygum

6:52pm Wed 4 Apr 12

prince35 says...

@nickloza.
I'm going to have a word with our newly elected mp Mr George galloway !!!!.
He may be able to help find investment in our great club.
@nickloza. I'm going to have a word with our newly elected mp Mr George galloway !!!!. He may be able to help find investment in our great club. prince35

7:01pm Wed 4 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

prince35 wrote:
@nickloza. I'm going to have a word with our newly elected mp Mr George galloway !!!!. He may be able to help find investment in our great club.
Behind the times again prince35 http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=prjMlu26P
ss&feature=youtu.be
Listen towhat hesay about 10/11 minutesinto the video !.
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: @nickloza. I'm going to have a word with our newly elected mp Mr George galloway !!!!. He may be able to help find investment in our great club.[/p][/quote]Behind the times again prince35 http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=prjMlu26P ss&feature=youtu.be Listen towhat hesay about 10/11 minutesinto the video !. nowt fresh

7:03pm Wed 4 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

nowt fresh wrote:
prince35 wrote: @nickloza. I'm going to have a word with our newly elected mp Mr George galloway !!!!. He may be able to help find investment in our great club.
Behind the times again prince35 http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=prjMlu26P ss&feature=youtu
.be Listen towhat hesay about 10/11 minutesinto the video !.
Listen to what he say about 10/11 minutes into the video !.”
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: @nickloza. I'm going to have a word with our newly elected mp Mr George galloway !!!!. He may be able to help find investment in our great club.[/p][/quote]Behind the times again prince35 http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=prjMlu26P ss&feature=youtu .be Listen towhat hesay about 10/11 minutesinto the video !.[/p][/quote]Listen to what he say about 10/11 minutes into the video !.” nowt fresh

7:10pm Wed 4 Apr 12

prince35 says...

@nowt fresh.
Georgeous George will save this club!!!.
@nowt fresh. Georgeous George will save this club!!!. prince35

8:05pm Wed 4 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:
citytilidie465 wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.
Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do
Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!.
"Deadbeat"OUT!!
.
Is that because you didn't want to lose your golfing partner Shaun? -and of course you would have had to face up to him face to face, which kinda tests one's bravery a tad more than from a website.

On a serious note, what is it that so impressed you about Jacko as a Manager. If Lawn 'stabbed Jacko in the back' as you claim. Why did he even bother giving him the job (permanent) only a couple of months earlier in the first place? Lawn didn't need to do him from behind if he didn't want him, he could have simply got PP in at the time instead of offering Jacko the job. Can you tell or is it to be saved for a book?

From what I read, it came across JR wasn't too impressed with Jacko's work-rate. Can you shed any light on that?
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moanmoanwhingewhinge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]citytilidie465[/bold] wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.[/p][/quote]Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do[/p][/quote]Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!. "Deadbeat"OUT!! .[/p][/quote]Is that because you didn't want to lose your golfing partner Shaun? -and of course you would have had to face up to him face to face, which kinda tests one's bravery a tad more than from a website. On a serious note, what is it that so impressed you about Jacko as a Manager. If Lawn 'stabbed Jacko in the back' as you claim. Why did he even bother giving him the job (permanent) only a couple of months earlier in the first place? Lawn didn't need to do him from behind if he didn't want him, he could have simply got PP in at the time instead of offering Jacko the job. Can you tell or is it to be saved for a book? From what I read, it came across JR wasn't too impressed with Jacko's work-rate. Can you shed any light on that? lonniejockstrap

8:26pm Wed 4 Apr 12

prince35 says...

Can I these posters on here leave shaun from Richmond alone!!!.
Shaun was the one on here that told us about parkys management skills.
Can I these posters on here leave shaun from Richmond alone!!!. Shaun was the one on here that told us about parkys management skills. prince35

8:27pm Wed 4 Apr 12

prince35 says...

Can I these posters on here leave shaun from Richmond alone!!!.
Shaun was the one on here that told us about parkys management skills.
Can I these posters on here leave shaun from Richmond alone!!!. Shaun was the one on here that told us about parkys management skills. prince35

8:28pm Wed 4 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

prince35 wrote:
Can I these posters on here leave shaun from Richmond alone!!!. Shaun was the one on here that told us about parkys management skills.
He should have had a word with Mark Lawn first !...
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Can I these posters on here leave shaun from Richmond alone!!!. Shaun was the one on here that told us about parkys management skills.[/p][/quote]He should have had a word with Mark Lawn first !... nowt fresh

8:37pm Wed 4 Apr 12

prince35 says...

My team to face southend
Duke
Mitchell
Fry
Branston
Bullock
Wells
Jones
Syers
Reid
Hanson
Wells.
I doubt Parky will pick such an batting team on Friday.
That's the way I would go
My team to face southend Duke Mitchell Fry Branston Bullock Wells Jones Syers Reid Hanson Wells. I doubt Parky will pick such an batting team on Friday. That's the way I would go prince35

8:46pm Wed 4 Apr 12

pudseykid says...

i miss stallard & murray wrote:
We are on a down wood spiral. Its not just the Plymouth game its the results since the turn of the year. I will get behind the team but with this idiot we are not goin to have a team next season. Even if we manage to stay up changes are required to move us forward. Man management skills are lacking. He likes to wheel and deal if we keep him I wud put a bet on a high number of players been used this time next season. We do need stability but not only in terms of a manager but a settled startin eleven and a settled squad as wel. I just think the stability needs to be with the correct manager and for me deadbeat does not offer anythin positive and no stability on his part.
I have made my comments on claret & banter..and i will do the same here..Mr Lawn, on Saturday in Plymouth WE were behind the team. We were NOT behind the selection. We knew HE (PP) had got it wrong! Branston could not get a game under PP until Plymouth and i thought he was outstanding. This man is committed to CITY staying UP..PP is NOT! If U wish to sell Season tickets for next season Mr Lawn, CAN WE be assured that 1) we will stay up 2) that we will not go thru this again next season-cos with PP in charge i believe we will..AND just so U R Clear..I come to home matches from Somerset, 450 miles round trip, thats commitment, even though i am "unemployed" at this time. I WANT MY Team to do well...U R rewarding this mans failure-not good business sense..We support/we love CITY..U want more Ticket sales, get rid of the problem-simple!!!
[quote][p][bold]i miss stallard & murray[/bold] wrote: We are on a down wood spiral. Its not just the Plymouth game its the results since the turn of the year. I will get behind the team but with this idiot we are not goin to have a team next season. Even if we manage to stay up changes are required to move us forward. Man management skills are lacking. He likes to wheel and deal if we keep him I wud put a bet on a high number of players been used this time next season. We do need stability but not only in terms of a manager but a settled startin eleven and a settled squad as wel. I just think the stability needs to be with the correct manager and for me deadbeat does not offer anythin positive and no stability on his part.[/p][/quote]I have made my comments on claret & banter..and i will do the same here..Mr Lawn, on Saturday in Plymouth WE were behind the team. We were NOT behind the selection. We knew HE (PP) had got it wrong! Branston could not get a game under PP until Plymouth and i thought he was outstanding. This man is committed to CITY staying UP..PP is NOT! If U wish to sell Season tickets for next season Mr Lawn, CAN WE be assured that 1) we will stay up 2) that we will not go thru this again next season-cos with PP in charge i believe we will..AND just so U R Clear..I come to home matches from Somerset, 450 miles round trip, thats commitment, even though i am "unemployed" at this time. I WANT MY Team to do well...U R rewarding this mans failure-not good business sense..We support/we love CITY..U want more Ticket sales, get rid of the problem-simple!!! pudseykid

8:51pm Wed 4 Apr 12

eebygum says...

prince35 wrote:
My team to face southend
Duke
Mitchell
Fry
Branston
Bullock
Wells
Jones
Syers
Reid
Hanson
Wells.
I doubt Parky will pick such an batting team on Friday.
That's the way I would go
Have you cloned Well prince35? I know the Liverpool fans sing Carragher 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
-11 but what would City fans sing? He's here he's there he's every f***ing when Nahki Wells.
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: My team to face southend Duke Mitchell Fry Branston Bullock Wells Jones Syers Reid Hanson Wells. I doubt Parky will pick such an batting team on Friday. That's the way I would go[/p][/quote]Have you cloned Well prince35? I know the Liverpool fans sing Carragher 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10 -11 but what would City fans sing? He's here he's there he's every f***ing when Nahki Wells. eebygum

8:59pm Wed 4 Apr 12

prince35 says...

Sorry dagnall to partner Hanson lol
Sorry dagnall to partner Hanson lol prince35

9:34pm Wed 4 Apr 12

dannbradfc says...

Read between the lines and Lawn/rhodes have had a 'word' with Parky. They most likely 'suggested' that he go for a win as one win will most likely guarantee safety and that one win is also more likely if we can look to score goals.

Its also a veiled threat of sorts and it will be interesting to see how Parky reacts. For Lawn to say he's disappointed he obviously expected more, as did we all.

Lawn needs to look at his own part in sale of season tickets. He employed the manager. He made comments regarding the existing squad etc. He promised entertainment. and no return to the mistakes of the past. And thats the stuff we know about. I'd have morer respect if he also , just now and then, conceded his own mistakes and part in some of what has occurred this season and perhaps previous one's.
Read between the lines and Lawn/rhodes have had a 'word' with Parky. They most likely 'suggested' that he go for a win as one win will most likely guarantee safety and that one win is also more likely if we can look to score goals. Its also a veiled threat of sorts and it will be interesting to see how Parky reacts. For Lawn to say he's disappointed he obviously expected more, as did we all. Lawn needs to look at his own part in sale of season tickets. He employed the manager. He made comments regarding the existing squad etc. He promised entertainment. and no return to the mistakes of the past. And thats the stuff we know about. I'd have morer respect if he also , just now and then, conceded his own mistakes and part in some of what has occurred this season and perhaps previous one's. dannbradfc

9:36pm Wed 4 Apr 12

pride of yorkshire says...

Julian Rhoades please take full control of this club because Mark lawn is a pathetic excuse for a chairman get rid and tell him to take Parkinson with him!LAWN AND PARKINSON OUT!!!!
Julian Rhoades please take full control of this club because Mark lawn is a pathetic excuse for a chairman get rid and tell him to take Parkinson with him!LAWN AND PARKINSON OUT!!!! pride of yorkshire

9:39pm Wed 4 Apr 12

silverbantam says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above
if you paid for your 25 year ticket on a credit card you could have claimed a refund from the credit card company after City defaulted on the deal.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above[/p][/quote]if you paid for your 25 year ticket on a credit card you could have claimed a refund from the credit card company after City defaulted on the deal. silverbantam

10:21pm Wed 4 Apr 12

shaun from richmond says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:
citytilidie465 wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.
Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do
Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!. "Deadbeat"OUT!! .
Is that because you didn't want to lose your golfing partner Shaun? -and of course you would have had to face up to him face to face, which kinda tests one's bravery a tad more than from a website. On a serious note, what is it that so impressed you about Jacko as a Manager. If Lawn 'stabbed Jacko in the back' as you claim. Why did he even bother giving him the job (permanent) only a couple of months earlier in the first place? Lawn didn't need to do him from behind if he didn't want him, he could have simply got PP in at the time instead of offering Jacko the job. Can you tell or is it to be saved for a book? From what I read, it came across JR wasn't too impressed with Jacko's work-rate. Can you shed any light on that?
I have no problem in stating "Jacko" is a mate!!....I can assure you we have had plenty of heated debates over the years!!..I can also assure you he is a Top Bloke!!.
Your second point.....They had to give him the job....because he did what he said he would do....Saved us from relegation!!.
3rd point....Your right they wanted a Coach who would work 15 hours a day! (they have that now!!...and hes RUBBISH). But what is unforgivable is Lawn (Not JR, he has some class) then tried to humiliate him......and thats just WRONG!!.
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moanmoanwhingewhinge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]citytilidie465[/bold] wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.[/p][/quote]Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do[/p][/quote]Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!. "Deadbeat"OUT!! .[/p][/quote]Is that because you didn't want to lose your golfing partner Shaun? -and of course you would have had to face up to him face to face, which kinda tests one's bravery a tad more than from a website. On a serious note, what is it that so impressed you about Jacko as a Manager. If Lawn 'stabbed Jacko in the back' as you claim. Why did he even bother giving him the job (permanent) only a couple of months earlier in the first place? Lawn didn't need to do him from behind if he didn't want him, he could have simply got PP in at the time instead of offering Jacko the job. Can you tell or is it to be saved for a book? From what I read, it came across JR wasn't too impressed with Jacko's work-rate. Can you shed any light on that?[/p][/quote]I have no problem in stating "Jacko" is a mate!!....I can assure you we have had plenty of heated debates over the years!!..I can also assure you he is a Top Bloke!!. Your second point.....They had to give him the job....because he did what he said he would do....Saved us from relegation!!. 3rd point....Your right they wanted a Coach who would work 15 hours a day! (they have that now!!...and hes RUBBISH). But what is unforgivable is Lawn (Not JR, he has some class) then tried to humiliate him......and thats just WRONG!!. shaun from richmond

10:34pm Wed 4 Apr 12

shaun from richmond says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote: LAWN can Support "Deadbeat" all he wants!!!......BUT I WONT!!. After stabbing "Jacko" in the back then trying to humiliate him.....LAWN can shove it!!. "DEADBEAT OUT"!!
Shaun, just two things. Firstly, is it too much to ask that you stop being so offensive towards the manager of the football team that you support. Secondly; given that you have such a strong dislike of Mark Lawn for what you believe he did to Jacko; shouldn't you direct your anger at Lawn rather than PP?
I dont think "Deadbeat" is offensive?? It fits him perfectly!!.
Second......What on earth MORE do you want me to say about Mark Lawn??? are you trying to get me banned??.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: LAWN can Support "Deadbeat" all he wants!!!......BUT I WONT!!. After stabbing "Jacko" in the back then trying to humiliate him.....LAWN can shove it!!. "DEADBEAT OUT"!![/p][/quote]Shaun, just two things. Firstly, is it too much to ask that you stop being so offensive towards the manager of the football team that you support. Secondly; given that you have such a strong dislike of Mark Lawn for what you believe he did to Jacko; shouldn't you direct your anger at Lawn rather than PP?[/p][/quote]I dont think "Deadbeat" is offensive?? It fits him perfectly!!. Second......What on earth MORE do you want me to say about Mark Lawn??? are you trying to get me banned??. shaun from richmond

10:39pm Wed 4 Apr 12

dannbradfc says...

Nickloza wrote:
ricky76 wrote:
moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.
ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team
I am still waiting for shaun and co to answer my questions over the last few weeks if PP was sacked who would they want in charge and why and also why is shaun so pro jacko when his record was so bad
I have asked the same question and as of yet received only abuse for being 'pro Parky' when actually I'm pro City, he is the current manager like it or not and as fans its our job to get behind the club especially in our current predicament. Its no good saying after every result 'sack PP ML out' they never give an alternative solution. If they have one I along with every other city fan would love to hear it. Bearing in mind there is no-one knocking on the door with bags of money to throw at the club. So once again we need to go with what we have got and SUPPORT the club.
there been plenty of alternatives.

one been attacking the opposition.

another to have a long term startegy and not abandon a season and squad after only 6 games in.

another would be to use a squad of 22 players say and ONLY add loans when required and the way loans were originally intended.

another would be if you PROMISE that this year would bring about more exciting football and entertainment that you employ the man who fits these terms....

another might be that if you come up with an idea e.g. the development squad, and invest in it you make sure that its viable and thus not turn round just a few months later bemoaning its benefits and costs...

and on and on......

perhaps you should pay more attention as i and others have been pointing these sorts of 'alternative solutions' out for seasons now......
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ricky76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moanmoanwhingewhinge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.[/p][/quote]ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team[/p][/quote]I am still waiting for shaun and co to answer my questions over the last few weeks if PP was sacked who would they want in charge and why and also why is shaun so pro jacko when his record was so bad[/p][/quote]I have asked the same question and as of yet received only abuse for being 'pro Parky' when actually I'm pro City, he is the current manager like it or not and as fans its our job to get behind the club especially in our current predicament. Its no good saying after every result 'sack PP ML out' they never give an alternative solution. If they have one I along with every other city fan would love to hear it. Bearing in mind there is no-one knocking on the door with bags of money to throw at the club. So once again we need to go with what we have got and SUPPORT the club.[/p][/quote]there been plenty of alternatives. one been attacking the opposition. another to have a long term startegy and not abandon a season and squad after only 6 games in. another would be to use a squad of 22 players say and ONLY add loans when required and the way loans were originally intended. another would be if you PROMISE that this year would bring about more exciting football and entertainment that you employ the man who fits these terms.... another might be that if you come up with an idea e.g. the development squad, and invest in it you make sure that its viable and thus not turn round just a few months later bemoaning its benefits and costs... and on and on...... perhaps you should pay more attention as i and others have been pointing these sorts of 'alternative solutions' out for seasons now...... dannbradfc

10:45pm Wed 4 Apr 12

dannbradfc says...

dannbradfc wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
ricky76 wrote:
moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.
ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team
I am still waiting for shaun and co to answer my questions over the last few weeks if PP was sacked who would they want in charge and why and also why is shaun so pro jacko when his record was so bad
I have asked the same question and as of yet received only abuse for being 'pro Parky' when actually I'm pro City, he is the current manager like it or not and as fans its our job to get behind the club especially in our current predicament. Its no good saying after every result 'sack PP ML out' they never give an alternative solution. If they have one I along with every other city fan would love to hear it. Bearing in mind there is no-one knocking on the door with bags of money to throw at the club. So once again we need to go with what we have got and SUPPORT the club.
there been plenty of alternatives.

one been attacking the opposition.

another to have a long term startegy and not abandon a season and squad after only 6 games in.

another would be to use a squad of 22 players say and ONLY add loans when required and the way loans were originally intended.

another would be if you PROMISE that this year would bring about more exciting football and entertainment that you employ the man who fits these terms....

another might be that if you come up with an idea e.g. the development squad, and invest in it you make sure that its viable and thus not turn round just a few months later bemoaning its benefits and costs...

and on and on......

perhaps you should pay more attention as i and others have been pointing these sorts of 'alternative solutions' out for seasons now......
ps they aren't even radical alternative solutions, just common-sense and learnig from past mistakes.

Its not the fans making these mistakes over and over. Some maybe guilty of short-termism themselves and also looking for someone or something to blame and/or explain our poor situation. Buts thats 'cos they are fans and thats what ALL fans do.

We cannot effect the running and direction of this club more than the chairman and manager and perhaps there lies the crux of your original question.....
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ricky76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moanmoanwhingewhinge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.[/p][/quote]ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team[/p][/quote]I am still waiting for shaun and co to answer my questions over the last few weeks if PP was sacked who would they want in charge and why and also why is shaun so pro jacko when his record was so bad[/p][/quote]I have asked the same question and as of yet received only abuse for being 'pro Parky' when actually I'm pro City, he is the current manager like it or not and as fans its our job to get behind the club especially in our current predicament. Its no good saying after every result 'sack PP ML out' they never give an alternative solution. If they have one I along with every other city fan would love to hear it. Bearing in mind there is no-one knocking on the door with bags of money to throw at the club. So once again we need to go with what we have got and SUPPORT the club.[/p][/quote]there been plenty of alternatives. one been attacking the opposition. another to have a long term startegy and not abandon a season and squad after only 6 games in. another would be to use a squad of 22 players say and ONLY add loans when required and the way loans were originally intended. another would be if you PROMISE that this year would bring about more exciting football and entertainment that you employ the man who fits these terms.... another might be that if you come up with an idea e.g. the development squad, and invest in it you make sure that its viable and thus not turn round just a few months later bemoaning its benefits and costs... and on and on...... perhaps you should pay more attention as i and others have been pointing these sorts of 'alternative solutions' out for seasons now......[/p][/quote]ps they aren't even radical alternative solutions, just common-sense and learnig from past mistakes. Its not the fans making these mistakes over and over. Some maybe guilty of short-termism themselves and also looking for someone or something to blame and/or explain our poor situation. Buts thats 'cos they are fans and thats what ALL fans do. We cannot effect the running and direction of this club more than the chairman and manager and perhaps there lies the crux of your original question..... dannbradfc

10:47pm Wed 4 Apr 12

dannbradfc says...

dannbradfc wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
ricky76 wrote:
moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.
ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team
I am still waiting for shaun and co to answer my questions over the last few weeks if PP was sacked who would they want in charge and why and also why is shaun so pro jacko when his record was so bad
I have asked the same question and as of yet received only abuse for being 'pro Parky' when actually I'm pro City, he is the current manager like it or not and as fans its our job to get behind the club especially in our current predicament. Its no good saying after every result 'sack PP ML out' they never give an alternative solution. If they have one I along with every other city fan would love to hear it. Bearing in mind there is no-one knocking on the door with bags of money to throw at the club. So once again we need to go with what we have got and SUPPORT the club.
there been plenty of alternatives.

one been attacking the opposition.

another to have a long term startegy and not abandon a season and squad after only 6 games in.

another would be to use a squad of 22 players say and ONLY add loans when required and the way loans were originally intended.

another would be if you PROMISE that this year would bring about more exciting football and entertainment that you employ the man who fits these terms....

another might be that if you come up with an idea e.g. the development squad, and invest in it you make sure that its viable and thus not turn round just a few months later bemoaning its benefits and costs...

and on and on......

perhaps you should pay more attention as i and others have been pointing these sorts of 'alternative solutions' out for seasons now......
ps they aren't even radical alternative solutions, just common-sense and learnig from past mistakes.

Its not the fans making these mistakes over and over. Some maybe guilty of short-termism themselves and also looking for someone or something to blame and/or explain our poor situation. Buts thats 'cos they are fans and thats what ALL fans do.

We cannot effect the running and direction of this club more than the chairman and manager and perhaps there lies the crux of your original question.....
PPS although there is one way fans can and do have a direct effect and thats in gate money. Thats when as you can see in the very article above the chairman/businessmen really take notice.....
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ricky76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moanmoanwhingewhinge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.[/p][/quote]ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team[/p][/quote]I am still waiting for shaun and co to answer my questions over the last few weeks if PP was sacked who would they want in charge and why and also why is shaun so pro jacko when his record was so bad[/p][/quote]I have asked the same question and as of yet received only abuse for being 'pro Parky' when actually I'm pro City, he is the current manager like it or not and as fans its our job to get behind the club especially in our current predicament. Its no good saying after every result 'sack PP ML out' they never give an alternative solution. If they have one I along with every other city fan would love to hear it. Bearing in mind there is no-one knocking on the door with bags of money to throw at the club. So once again we need to go with what we have got and SUPPORT the club.[/p][/quote]there been plenty of alternatives. one been attacking the opposition. another to have a long term startegy and not abandon a season and squad after only 6 games in. another would be to use a squad of 22 players say and ONLY add loans when required and the way loans were originally intended. another would be if you PROMISE that this year would bring about more exciting football and entertainment that you employ the man who fits these terms.... another might be that if you come up with an idea e.g. the development squad, and invest in it you make sure that its viable and thus not turn round just a few months later bemoaning its benefits and costs... and on and on...... perhaps you should pay more attention as i and others have been pointing these sorts of 'alternative solutions' out for seasons now......[/p][/quote]ps they aren't even radical alternative solutions, just common-sense and learnig from past mistakes. Its not the fans making these mistakes over and over. Some maybe guilty of short-termism themselves and also looking for someone or something to blame and/or explain our poor situation. Buts thats 'cos they are fans and thats what ALL fans do. We cannot effect the running and direction of this club more than the chairman and manager and perhaps there lies the crux of your original question.....[/p][/quote]PPS although there is one way fans can and do have a direct effect and thats in gate money. Thats when as you can see in the very article above the chairman/businessmen really take notice..... dannbradfc

11:21pm Wed 4 Apr 12

bobbyo says...

total90,s post at 9.25 am, brilliant wording and best post of the day, well said total90....
C,T,I, D.
total90,s post at 9.25 am, brilliant wording and best post of the day, well said total90.... C,T,I, D. bobbyo

11:34pm Wed 4 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:
citytilidie465 wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.
Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do
Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!. "Deadbeat"OUT!! .
Is that because you didn't want to lose your golfing partner Shaun? -and of course you would have had to face up to him face to face, which kinda tests one's bravery a tad more than from a website. On a serious note, what is it that so impressed you about Jacko as a Manager. If Lawn 'stabbed Jacko in the back' as you claim. Why did he even bother giving him the job (permanent) only a couple of months earlier in the first place? Lawn didn't need to do him from behind if he didn't want him, he could have simply got PP in at the time instead of offering Jacko the job. Can you tell or is it to be saved for a book? From what I read, it came across JR wasn't too impressed with Jacko's work-rate. Can you shed any light on that?
I have no problem in stating "Jacko" is a mate!!....I can assure you we have had plenty of heated debates over the years!!..I can also assure you he is a Top Bloke!!.
Your second point.....They had to give him the job....because he did what he said he would do....Saved us from relegation!!.
3rd point....Your right they wanted a Coach who would work 15 hours a day! (they have that now!!...and hes RUBBISH). But what is unforgivable is Lawn (Not JR, he has some class) then tried to humiliate him......and thats just WRONG!!.
First of all, I have met Jacko a couple of times. Nice bloke, I have no issue with him personally. I also did my Coaching Badge on the same course as him and, again, he came across as a nice bloke. I wish him well.

Now then. I can't agree that the Chairmen 'had to give him the job' Shaun. Where's your evidence for this? There was no contract (unless you know otherwise?) and IMO no obligation either. Because Jacko's performance up to the end of the season (14 games) was worse than PT's first 14 games, last 14 games and even his 'middle' 14 games. Therefore, I think it's untrue, and not born out by the facts, to say he 'saved us from relegation' if the claim is that he improved the results. He didn't. It was simply a case of Jacko being the manager of the team that had a worse return of points when compared to the same amount of games played under PT.

How could Jacko have 'saved us from relegation' when he had a worse record than PT? it doesn't make sense. The team didn't perform better under Jacko it performed worse. BUT! it managed to avoid relegation.
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moanmoanwhingewhinge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]citytilidie465[/bold] wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.[/p][/quote]Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do[/p][/quote]Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!. "Deadbeat"OUT!! .[/p][/quote]Is that because you didn't want to lose your golfing partner Shaun? -and of course you would have had to face up to him face to face, which kinda tests one's bravery a tad more than from a website. On a serious note, what is it that so impressed you about Jacko as a Manager. If Lawn 'stabbed Jacko in the back' as you claim. Why did he even bother giving him the job (permanent) only a couple of months earlier in the first place? Lawn didn't need to do him from behind if he didn't want him, he could have simply got PP in at the time instead of offering Jacko the job. Can you tell or is it to be saved for a book? From what I read, it came across JR wasn't too impressed with Jacko's work-rate. Can you shed any light on that?[/p][/quote]I have no problem in stating "Jacko" is a mate!!....I can assure you we have had plenty of heated debates over the years!!..I can also assure you he is a Top Bloke!!. Your second point.....They had to give him the job....because he did what he said he would do....Saved us from relegation!!. 3rd point....Your right they wanted a Coach who would work 15 hours a day! (they have that now!!...and hes RUBBISH). But what is unforgivable is Lawn (Not JR, he has some class) then tried to humiliate him......and thats just WRONG!!.[/p][/quote]First of all, I have met Jacko a couple of times. Nice bloke, I have no issue with him personally. I also did my Coaching Badge on the same course as him and, again, he came across as a nice bloke. I wish him well. Now then. I can't agree that the Chairmen 'had to give him the job' Shaun. Where's your evidence for this? There was no contract (unless you know otherwise?) and IMO no obligation either. Because Jacko's performance up to the end of the season (14 games) was worse than PT's first 14 games, last 14 games and even his 'middle' 14 games. Therefore, I think it's untrue, and not born out by the facts, to say he 'saved us from relegation' if the claim is that he improved the results. He didn't. It was simply a case of Jacko being the manager of the team that had a worse return of points when compared to the same amount of games played under PT. How could Jacko have 'saved us from relegation' when he had a worse record than PT? it doesn't make sense. The team didn't perform better under Jacko it performed worse. BUT! it managed to avoid relegation. lonniejockstrap

11:41pm Wed 4 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

bobbyo wrote:
total90,s post at 9.25 am, brilliant wording and best post of the day, well said total90....
C,T,I, D.
Agree, it's a good sensible post is that.
[quote][p][bold]bobbyo[/bold] wrote: total90,s post at 9.25 am, brilliant wording and best post of the day, well said total90.... C,T,I, D.[/p][/quote]Agree, it's a good sensible post is that. lonniejockstrap

12:07am Thu 5 Apr 12

dannbradfc says...

isn't this a similar situation to now though? only that Parkinson has had more games?

Peter Taylor was allowed time to create and mould his team. Taylor created his 'wingless'wonders' and then Jackson had to inherit this. Jackson is/was a manager with a more attacked based focus thus the team Jackson had was not designed to play the way Jackson would have wanted. They were also low on confidnece and there were reported divisions in the squad. Thus its very unfair to compare this.

This season Jackson had managed over the summer to assemble a more mobile squad and one with width. Jones, Stewart, Compton et al looked to have credentials of a team that could perhaps develop. he did not have the best of starts stat wise but not as bad as some would believe defensive wise. Indeed Parkinson despite been very heavily defensive focused has conceded alot of goals in games. Two just after his best spell in december if i remember rightly.

It is very difficult to judge Jacksons 'actual' squad on the limited games this year. Indeed i would argue that the team was just beginning to perform better and with more balance when Jackson left.

Jackson did need to sort out the defence as i do not think that Branston and Williams were ideal partners for Oliver. Both carry to many mistakes for me.

I am not jackson's biggest fan but maintain that the side at the beginning of this season was more pleasing to watch and that it was a huge mistake dismantling that side rather than adding one or two players where required.

Taylor was a truly awful manger in his time with us and we are in many ways still suffering from this period. Jackson with HIS side did not really have enough time to be judged either way for me and for someone like yourself Lonnie who is a strong advocate of affording more time and a long term startegy i feel that you know this already and are in this instance playing devils advocate and perhaps attempting to give SHAUN a taste of his own medicine ;-).

PS it is funny when you two get going.....
isn't this a similar situation to now though? only that Parkinson has had more games? Peter Taylor was allowed time to create and mould his team. Taylor created his 'wingless'wonders' and then Jackson had to inherit this. Jackson is/was a manager with a more attacked based focus thus the team Jackson had was not designed to play the way Jackson would have wanted. They were also low on confidnece and there were reported divisions in the squad. Thus its very unfair to compare this. This season Jackson had managed over the summer to assemble a more mobile squad and one with width. Jones, Stewart, Compton et al looked to have credentials of a team that could perhaps develop. he did not have the best of starts stat wise but not as bad as some would believe defensive wise. Indeed Parkinson despite been very heavily defensive focused has conceded alot of goals in games. Two just after his best spell in december if i remember rightly. It is very difficult to judge Jacksons 'actual' squad on the limited games this year. Indeed i would argue that the team was just beginning to perform better and with more balance when Jackson left. Jackson did need to sort out the defence as i do not think that Branston and Williams were ideal partners for Oliver. Both carry to many mistakes for me. I am not jackson's biggest fan but maintain that the side at the beginning of this season was more pleasing to watch and that it was a huge mistake dismantling that side rather than adding one or two players where required. Taylor was a truly awful manger in his time with us and we are in many ways still suffering from this period. Jackson with HIS side did not really have enough time to be judged either way for me and for someone like yourself Lonnie who is a strong advocate of affording more time and a long term startegy i feel that you know this already and are in this instance playing devils advocate and perhaps attempting to give SHAUN a taste of his own medicine ;-). PS it is funny when you two get going..... dannbradfc

12:59am Thu 5 Apr 12

Bradford1903 says...

Is it the dreaded vote of confidence; well it's a hardly a ringing endorsement, but you wouldn't expect it to be.

While I obviously hope it doesn't happen, if we lost our next 2 games, I wouldn't be surprised if the chairmen pulled the trigger, looking for a reaction with the 6 pointer against Macclesfield looming, and with us already being on a terrible run, might feel they've nothing to lose.

The frustrating thing to me is that when Parkinson has set his side up to attack, such as in the games against Crewe, Shrewsbury and Oxford, we've looked like a team capable of challenging for promotion next season.

Unfortunately though, his reign is increasingly being characterised in the games, where his primary aim is to not get beat, particularly against the sides near the bottom.

You only have to look at the games against Plymouth and Hereford home and away, plus Dagenham and Macclesfield away, where we've only picked up 2 points from these 6 matches. If we'd have been more positive, and tried to win these games, you can't tell me we wouldn't have picked up more points, and equally our opponents wouldn't have accumulated as many, meaning we'd probably be safe by now.

I think the chairmen have a massive decision to make at the end of the season, in deciding whether to keep Parkinson; weighing up the cost of sacking him, with the probable drop in season ticket sales if he remains in charge.

Not only does he need to keep us up, but show he's the man to take us forward next season.
Is it the dreaded vote of confidence; well it's a hardly a ringing endorsement, but you wouldn't expect it to be. While I obviously hope it doesn't happen, if we lost our next 2 games, I wouldn't be surprised if the chairmen pulled the trigger, looking for a reaction with the 6 pointer against Macclesfield looming, and with us already being on a terrible run, might feel they've nothing to lose. The frustrating thing to me is that when Parkinson has set his side up to attack, such as in the games against Crewe, Shrewsbury and Oxford, we've looked like a team capable of challenging for promotion next season. Unfortunately though, his reign is increasingly being characterised in the games, where his primary aim is to not get beat, particularly against the sides near the bottom. You only have to look at the games against Plymouth and Hereford home and away, plus Dagenham and Macclesfield away, where we've only picked up 2 points from these 6 matches. If we'd have been more positive, and tried to win these games, you can't tell me we wouldn't have picked up more points, and equally our opponents wouldn't have accumulated as many, meaning we'd probably be safe by now. I think the chairmen have a massive decision to make at the end of the season, in deciding whether to keep Parkinson; weighing up the cost of sacking him, with the probable drop in season ticket sales if he remains in charge. Not only does he need to keep us up, but show he's the man to take us forward next season. Bradford1903

8:23am Thu 5 Apr 12

shaun from richmond says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:
citytilidie465 wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.
Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do
Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!. "Deadbeat"OUT!! .
Is that because you didn't want to lose your golfing partner Shaun? -and of course you would have had to face up to him face to face, which kinda tests one's bravery a tad more than from a website. On a serious note, what is it that so impressed you about Jacko as a Manager. If Lawn 'stabbed Jacko in the back' as you claim. Why did he even bother giving him the job (permanent) only a couple of months earlier in the first place? Lawn didn't need to do him from behind if he didn't want him, he could have simply got PP in at the time instead of offering Jacko the job. Can you tell or is it to be saved for a book? From what I read, it came across JR wasn't too impressed with Jacko's work-rate. Can you shed any light on that?
I have no problem in stating "Jacko" is a mate!!....I can assure you we have had plenty of heated debates over the years!!..I can also assure you he is a Top Bloke!!. Your second point.....They had to give him the job....because he did what he said he would do....Saved us from relegation!!. 3rd point....Your right they wanted a Coach who would work 15 hours a day! (they have that now!!...and hes RUBBISH). But what is unforgivable is Lawn (Not JR, he has some class) then tried to humiliate him......and thats just WRONG!!.
First of all, I have met Jacko a couple of times. Nice bloke, I have no issue with him personally. I also did my Coaching Badge on the same course as him and, again, he came across as a nice bloke. I wish him well. Now then. I can't agree that the Chairmen 'had to give him the job' Shaun. Where's your evidence for this? There was no contract (unless you know otherwise?) and IMO no obligation either. Because Jacko's performance up to the end of the season (14 games) was worse than PT's first 14 games, last 14 games and even his 'middle' 14 games. Therefore, I think it's untrue, and not born out by the facts, to say he 'saved us from relegation' if the claim is that he improved the results. He didn't. It was simply a case of Jacko being the manager of the team that had a worse return of points when compared to the same amount of games played under PT. How could Jacko have 'saved us from relegation' when he had a worse record than PT? it doesn't make sense. The team didn't perform better under Jacko it performed worse. BUT! it managed to avoid relegation.
IMO...and Lawn/JR and many supporters (But clearly not you) Taylors team was going down!!. "Jacko", somehow managed to save us! (imo).
My real gripe is how they got rid of "Jacko" and then tried to humiliate him.......It was very poor!!.
BUT YOU AND ME WILL NEVER AGREE ON ANYTHING!!.
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moanmoanwhingewhinge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]citytilidie465[/bold] wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.[/p][/quote]Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do[/p][/quote]Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!. "Deadbeat"OUT!! .[/p][/quote]Is that because you didn't want to lose your golfing partner Shaun? -and of course you would have had to face up to him face to face, which kinda tests one's bravery a tad more than from a website. On a serious note, what is it that so impressed you about Jacko as a Manager. If Lawn 'stabbed Jacko in the back' as you claim. Why did he even bother giving him the job (permanent) only a couple of months earlier in the first place? Lawn didn't need to do him from behind if he didn't want him, he could have simply got PP in at the time instead of offering Jacko the job. Can you tell or is it to be saved for a book? From what I read, it came across JR wasn't too impressed with Jacko's work-rate. Can you shed any light on that?[/p][/quote]I have no problem in stating "Jacko" is a mate!!....I can assure you we have had plenty of heated debates over the years!!..I can also assure you he is a Top Bloke!!. Your second point.....They had to give him the job....because he did what he said he would do....Saved us from relegation!!. 3rd point....Your right they wanted a Coach who would work 15 hours a day! (they have that now!!...and hes RUBBISH). But what is unforgivable is Lawn (Not JR, he has some class) then tried to humiliate him......and thats just WRONG!!.[/p][/quote]First of all, I have met Jacko a couple of times. Nice bloke, I have no issue with him personally. I also did my Coaching Badge on the same course as him and, again, he came across as a nice bloke. I wish him well. Now then. I can't agree that the Chairmen 'had to give him the job' Shaun. Where's your evidence for this? There was no contract (unless you know otherwise?) and IMO no obligation either. Because Jacko's performance up to the end of the season (14 games) was worse than PT's first 14 games, last 14 games and even his 'middle' 14 games. Therefore, I think it's untrue, and not born out by the facts, to say he 'saved us from relegation' if the claim is that he improved the results. He didn't. It was simply a case of Jacko being the manager of the team that had a worse return of points when compared to the same amount of games played under PT. How could Jacko have 'saved us from relegation' when he had a worse record than PT? it doesn't make sense. The team didn't perform better under Jacko it performed worse. BUT! it managed to avoid relegation.[/p][/quote]IMO...and Lawn/JR and many supporters (But clearly not you) Taylors team was going down!!. "Jacko", somehow managed to save us! (imo). My real gripe is how they got rid of "Jacko" and then tried to humiliate him.......It was very poor!!. BUT YOU AND ME WILL NEVER AGREE ON ANYTHING!!. shaun from richmond

5:49pm Thu 5 Apr 12

bobbyo says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
bobbyo wrote:
total90,s post at 9.25 am, brilliant wording and best post of the day, well said total90....
C,T,I, D.
Agree, it's a good sensible post is that.
thanks lonnie,js. glad somebody agrees, let,s all get behind the team in the last few games and cheer the boys to safety, COME ON CITY...
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobbyo[/bold] wrote: total90,s post at 9.25 am, brilliant wording and best post of the day, well said total90.... C,T,I, D.[/p][/quote]Agree, it's a good sensible post is that.[/p][/quote]thanks lonnie,js. glad somebody agrees, let,s all get behind the team in the last few games and cheer the boys to safety, COME ON CITY... bobbyo

6:42pm Thu 5 Apr 12

bobbyo says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
bobbyo wrote:
total90,s post at 9.25 am, brilliant wording and best post of the day, well said total90....
C,T,I, D.
Agree, it's a good sensible post is that.
thanks lonnie,js. glad somebody agrees, let,s all get behind the team in the last few games and cheer the boys to safety, COME ON CITY...
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobbyo[/bold] wrote: total90,s post at 9.25 am, brilliant wording and best post of the day, well said total90.... C,T,I, D.[/p][/quote]Agree, it's a good sensible post is that.[/p][/quote]thanks lonnie,js. glad somebody agrees, let,s all get behind the team in the last few games and cheer the boys to safety, COME ON CITY... bobbyo

9:39pm Thu 5 Apr 12

eebygum says...

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.
ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team
Don't assume all City fans & people on this forum are like Shaun some actually agree with your comments it's not a feesable solution to sack managers at the drop of a hat as a new manager still has to work with what is left until the end of the season. Unfortunately we seem to get these 2 bob millionaires wanting the two chairmen out I split my sides laughing cos who's got the brass? Business can't find a penny to scratch their arses yet Shaun can afford to tell them to quit amazing. almost laughable if it wasn't so stupid.
[quote][p][bold]moanmoanwhingewhinge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.[/p][/quote]ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team[/p][/quote]Don't assume all City fans & people on this forum are like Shaun some actually agree with your comments it's not a feesable solution to sack managers at the drop of a hat as a new manager still has to work with what is left until the end of the season. Unfortunately we seem to get these 2 bob millionaires wanting the two chairmen out I split my sides laughing cos who's got the brass? Business can't find a penny to scratch their arses yet Shaun can afford to tell them to quit amazing. almost laughable if it wasn't so stupid. eebygum

10:00pm Thu 5 Apr 12

eebygum says...

nowt fresh wrote:
prince35 wrote:
@nowtfresh. Just silly to be banging on about the past. Go see Richmond!!!. Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.
No prince35 thisis what you posted: prince35 says...
4:47pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Who gives a monkeys over the 25 yr season tkt debate.
Fans got ripped off end of subject.”
nothing like : Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.
I do care those people are the life blood of this club if you cut their heart out it would read City till I die those people who you say you don't give a Monkeys about as you so quaintly put it helped save this club when many could not or chose not to so please show some respect!!! If you can't you don't deserve to comment on the club many of us love. NO I AM NOT A 25 YEAR SEASON TICKET HOLDER.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: @nowtfresh. Just silly to be banging on about the past. Go see Richmond!!!. Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.[/p][/quote]No prince35 thisis what you posted: prince35 says... 4:47pm Wed 4 Apr 12 Who gives a monkeys over the 25 yr season tkt debate. Fans got ripped off end of subject.” nothing like : Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.[/p][/quote]I do care those people are the life blood of this club if you cut their heart out it would read City till I die those people who you say you don't give a Monkeys about as you so quaintly put it helped save this club when many could not or chose not to so please show some respect!!! If you can't you don't deserve to comment on the club many of us love. NO I AM NOT A 25 YEAR SEASON TICKET HOLDER. eebygum

11:35pm Thu 5 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:
citytilidie465 wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.
Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do
Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!. "Deadbeat"OUT!! .
Is that because you didn't want to lose your golfing partner Shaun? -and of course you would have had to face up to him face to face, which kinda tests one's bravery a tad more than from a website. On a serious note, what is it that so impressed you about Jacko as a Manager. If Lawn 'stabbed Jacko in the back' as you claim. Why did he even bother giving him the job (permanent) only a couple of months earlier in the first place? Lawn didn't need to do him from behind if he didn't want him, he could have simply got PP in at the time instead of offering Jacko the job. Can you tell or is it to be saved for a book? From what I read, it came across JR wasn't too impressed with Jacko's work-rate. Can you shed any light on that?
I have no problem in stating "Jacko" is a mate!!....I can assure you we have had plenty of heated debates over the years!!..I can also assure you he is a Top Bloke!!. Your second point.....They had to give him the job....because he did what he said he would do....Saved us from relegation!!. 3rd point....Your right they wanted a Coach who would work 15 hours a day! (they have that now!!...and hes RUBBISH). But what is unforgivable is Lawn (Not JR, he has some class) then tried to humiliate him......and thats just WRONG!!.
First of all, I have met Jacko a couple of times. Nice bloke, I have no issue with him personally. I also did my Coaching Badge on the same course as him and, again, he came across as a nice bloke. I wish him well. Now then. I can't agree that the Chairmen 'had to give him the job' Shaun. Where's your evidence for this? There was no contract (unless you know otherwise?) and IMO no obligation either. Because Jacko's performance up to the end of the season (14 games) was worse than PT's first 14 games, last 14 games and even his 'middle' 14 games. Therefore, I think it's untrue, and not born out by the facts, to say he 'saved us from relegation' if the claim is that he improved the results. He didn't. It was simply a case of Jacko being the manager of the team that had a worse return of points when compared to the same amount of games played under PT. How could Jacko have 'saved us from relegation' when he had a worse record than PT? it doesn't make sense. The team didn't perform better under Jacko it performed worse. BUT! it managed to avoid relegation.
IMO...and Lawn/JR and many supporters (But clearly not you) Taylors team was going down!!. "Jacko", somehow managed to save us! (imo).
My real gripe is how they got rid of "Jacko" and then tried to humiliate him.......It was very poor!!.
BUT YOU AND ME WILL NEVER AGREE ON ANYTHING!!.
Why do you say 'Lawn/JR' believed 'Taylors (sic) team was going down'? Can you provide a quote from either of them to support your claim? They didn't sack PT he quit because a lot of fans did their usual and abused him and the Team so he quit.

I wasn't so much giving my opinion on why we avoided relegation, I was providing you with the FACT that Jacko was -based on his points tally- worse than PT when it came to winning points. You and I can argue our different opinions till the cows come home Shaun but what can't be argued against is the FACT Jacko did NOT deliver a better points per game outcome than PT.

How DID 'they' get rid of Jacko please tell. How did 'they' 'try to humiliate him'?

Some people might accuse Jacko of trying to humiliate the City players by making them wash their own kit. He said: “They have been pampered for far too long. From now on, players will be taking everything home.

“They have to take more responsibility in themselves and in the club.

“I bet some of them don’t even know how to use a washing machine. It’s time they learned.”

Shaun, I have made this point before but I'll make it again. If I ever find myself agreeing with YOU, then that's when I know we are both wrong! However, if you ever feel you would like to agree with ME, then just accept the FACTS!
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moanmoanwhingewhinge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]citytilidie465[/bold] wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.[/p][/quote]Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do[/p][/quote]Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!. "Deadbeat"OUT!! .[/p][/quote]Is that because you didn't want to lose your golfing partner Shaun? -and of course you would have had to face up to him face to face, which kinda tests one's bravery a tad more than from a website. On a serious note, what is it that so impressed you about Jacko as a Manager. If Lawn 'stabbed Jacko in the back' as you claim. Why did he even bother giving him the job (permanent) only a couple of months earlier in the first place? Lawn didn't need to do him from behind if he didn't want him, he could have simply got PP in at the time instead of offering Jacko the job. Can you tell or is it to be saved for a book? From what I read, it came across JR wasn't too impressed with Jacko's work-rate. Can you shed any light on that?[/p][/quote]I have no problem in stating "Jacko" is a mate!!....I can assure you we have had plenty of heated debates over the years!!..I can also assure you he is a Top Bloke!!. Your second point.....They had to give him the job....because he did what he said he would do....Saved us from relegation!!. 3rd point....Your right they wanted a Coach who would work 15 hours a day! (they have that now!!...and hes RUBBISH). But what is unforgivable is Lawn (Not JR, he has some class) then tried to humiliate him......and thats just WRONG!!.[/p][/quote]First of all, I have met Jacko a couple of times. Nice bloke, I have no issue with him personally. I also did my Coaching Badge on the same course as him and, again, he came across as a nice bloke. I wish him well. Now then. I can't agree that the Chairmen 'had to give him the job' Shaun. Where's your evidence for this? There was no contract (unless you know otherwise?) and IMO no obligation either. Because Jacko's performance up to the end of the season (14 games) was worse than PT's first 14 games, last 14 games and even his 'middle' 14 games. Therefore, I think it's untrue, and not born out by the facts, to say he 'saved us from relegation' if the claim is that he improved the results. He didn't. It was simply a case of Jacko being the manager of the team that had a worse return of points when compared to the same amount of games played under PT. How could Jacko have 'saved us from relegation' when he had a worse record than PT? it doesn't make sense. The team didn't perform better under Jacko it performed worse. BUT! it managed to avoid relegation.[/p][/quote]IMO...and Lawn/JR and many supporters (But clearly not you) Taylors team was going down!!. "Jacko", somehow managed to save us! (imo). My real gripe is how they got rid of "Jacko" and then tried to humiliate him.......It was very poor!!. BUT YOU AND ME WILL NEVER AGREE ON ANYTHING!!.[/p][/quote]Why do you say 'Lawn/JR' believed 'Taylors (sic) team was going down'? Can you provide a quote from either of them to support your claim? They didn't sack PT he quit because a lot of fans did their usual and abused him and the Team so he quit. I wasn't so much giving my opinion on why we avoided relegation, I was providing you with the FACT that Jacko was -based on his points tally- worse than PT when it came to winning points. You and I can argue our different opinions till the cows come home Shaun but what can't be argued against is the FACT Jacko did NOT deliver a better points per game outcome than PT. How DID 'they' get rid of Jacko please tell. How did 'they' 'try to humiliate him'? Some people might accuse Jacko of trying to humiliate the City players by making them wash their own kit. He said: “They have been pampered for far too long. From now on, players will be taking everything home. “They have to take more responsibility in themselves and in the club. “I bet some of them don’t even know how to use a washing machine. It’s time they learned.” Shaun, I have made this point before but I'll make it again. If I ever find myself agreeing with YOU, then that's when I know we are both wrong! However, if you ever feel you would like to agree with ME, then just accept the FACTS! lonniejockstrap

1:53pm Fri 6 Apr 12

nowt fresh says...

eebygum wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
prince35 wrote: @nowtfresh. Just silly to be banging on about the past. Go see Richmond!!!. Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.
No prince35 thisis what you posted: prince35 says... 4:47pm Wed 4 Apr 12 Who gives a monkeys over the 25 yr season tkt debate. Fans got ripped off end of subject.” nothing like : Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.
I do care those people are the life blood of this club if you cut their heart out it would read City till I die those people who you say you don't give a Monkeys about as you so quaintly put it helped save this club when many could not or chose not to so please show some respect!!! If you can't you don't deserve to comment on the club many of us love. NO I AM NOT A 25 YEAR SEASON TICKET HOLDER.
As I pointed out in my original post I will not be renewing another (of many that I have purchased in the past) untill I know if we still have football league next season,just could not understand the hostility in prince35 reply.
[quote][p][bold]eebygum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: @nowtfresh. Just silly to be banging on about the past. Go see Richmond!!!. Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.[/p][/quote]No prince35 thisis what you posted: prince35 says... 4:47pm Wed 4 Apr 12 Who gives a monkeys over the 25 yr season tkt debate. Fans got ripped off end of subject.” nothing like : Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.[/p][/quote]I do care those people are the life blood of this club if you cut their heart out it would read City till I die those people who you say you don't give a Monkeys about as you so quaintly put it helped save this club when many could not or chose not to so please show some respect!!! If you can't you don't deserve to comment on the club many of us love. NO I AM NOT A 25 YEAR SEASON TICKET HOLDER.[/p][/quote]As I pointed out in my original post I will not be renewing another (of many that I have purchased in the past) untill I know if we still have football league next season,just could not understand the hostility in prince35 reply. nowt fresh

10:32pm Fri 6 Apr 12

eebygum says...

Bradford are back Bradford are back hello,hello. All the negative posts on here 7 points above bottom 2 18th position up the football league we go. Plus £65 for backing 2-0 at 12/1 going towards next season ticket luvly jubly. Who are you? who are you? Come on City. So Now your gonna believe us, Now your gonna believe us and so say all of us.
Bradford are back Bradford are back hello,hello. All the negative posts on here 7 points above bottom 2 18th position up the football league we go. Plus £65 for backing 2-0 at 12/1 going towards next season ticket luvly jubly. Who are you? who are you? Come on City. So Now your gonna believe us, Now your gonna believe us and so say all of us. eebygum

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