Parkinson's job safe, says Bradford City chief Lawn (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

ALEXIMO.56. wrote:
I need to ask this question and maybe someone might know. How do these Bans work? We are scheduled to play Sarfend on Friday, now if by any chance the game is postponed, does that still count as that match ban and it is technically used up? or does it get carried over to when we actually play a game?

ricky76 wrote:

ALEXIMO.56. wrote:
I need to ask this question and maybe someone might know. How do these Bans work? We are scheduled to play Sarfend on Friday, now if by any chance the game is postponed, does that still count as that match ban and it is technically used up? or does it get carried over to when we actually play a game?

The players will miss 3 games /5games which are played meaning any game postponed gets carried over to the next

Mick, Cleckheaton wrote:
You can always guarantee that whatever the tone of the article the know nowts will be on here first thing in the morning with further updates as the day goes by. They haven't disappointed this morning.

For one of them to ask whether a postponement would wipe out one of the bans should be unbelievable but with this lot it's probably par for the course!

Mick, Cleckheaton wrote:
You can always guarantee that whatever the tone of the article the know nowts will be on here first thing in the morning with further updates as the day goes by. They haven't disappointed this morning. For one of them to ask whether a postponement would wipe out one of the bans should be unbelievable but with this lot it's probably par for the course!

johnny yen wrote:

Mick, Cleckheaton wrote:
You can always guarantee that whatever the tone of the article the know nowts will be on here first thing in the morning with further updates as the day goes by. They haven't disappointed this morning. For one of them to ask whether a postponement would wipe out one of the bans should be unbelievable but with this lot it's probably par for the course!

Ah, a self styled footballing Guru, pray, share with us your learned knowledge.

The SBD wrote:
We just have get behind the team that takes to the field and be behind the manager. That is what it has come to now. Personally i know the board have slipped up by not appointing Colin Cooper, He knew the players in the squad and there wouldn't have been anywhere near as many alterations as there has been.

shaun from richmond wrote:
LAWN can Support "Deadbeat" all he wants!!!......BUT I WONT!!. After stabbing "Jacko" in the back then trying to humiliate him.....LAWN can shove it!!.
"DEADBEAT OUT"!!

nowt fresh wrote:
Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

bwwb wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

bwwb wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)

Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand?

£2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199.

Great deal.

al&co wrote:
Mick McCarthy is in Bradford!

bwwb wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

bwwb wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)

Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.

Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

bwwb wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)

Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.

Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.

My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
I don't actually think it is dross, I have been thouroughly entertained for the majority of this season, a few games aside, even when losing we have put in a good effort or had thrills n spills. I will be purchasing my ST next week after Easter, not result dependant I will add. Not division dependant but because I am a City fan and it is what I do.

silverbantam wrote:
I can't believe I actually agree with something Mark Lawn says, but I do. However he should add that he and Rhodes are responsible for this farce of a season. By getting in Archie Christie which totally undermined Peter Jackson and setting up the ridiculous 'development squad' which was a luxury City could not afford. The board have ruined a promising season. All funds should have gone into the first team. No wonder Jacko resigned. He knew we would struggle with such meagre resources. But changing the manager now is a waste of time with only 6 matches left.

parader123 wrote:
Heres a breakdown of City's form since Parkinson took charge. league games only.
sept. 0 wins,2 draws,3 lost
oct. 2wins, 2 draws, 2 lost
nov. 0 wins, 1 draw, 2 lost
dec. 3 wins, 1 draw, 0 lost
jan. 0wins, 2 draws, 2 lost
feb. 2 wins, 2 draws, 0 lost
mar. 0 wins, 2 draws, 6 lost
apr. ?????????
If the pattern continues then we are due 2 wins during April.
I hope this proves to be the case, heres hoping, its something to cling to.

Victor Clayton wrote:
PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season.

nowt fresh wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote: PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season.

Sorry Victor Clayton but football is a results based business and so far nothing suggest to me he has earned the right to have another season at the helm,in fact it's a frightening thought after this seasons debacle !....

Victor Clayton wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote: PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season.

Sorry Victor Clayton but football is a results based business and so far nothing suggest to me he has earned the right to have another season at the helm,in fact it's a frightening thought after this seasons debacle !....

you might well be right, but it can not be a coincidence that our last 3 (at least) managers have struggled. can't help thinking there has been some input from above, especially with regards to Jackos player.

nowt fresh wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote: PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season.

Sorry Victor Clayton but football is a results based business and so far nothing suggest to me he has earned the right to have another season at the helm,in fact it's a frightening thought after this seasons debacle !....

you might well be right, but it can not be a coincidence that our last 3 (at least) managers have struggled. can't help thinking there has been some input from above, especially with regards to Jackos player.

"can't help thinking there has been some input from above" by that comment you mean God ?. :-)

Victor Clayton wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote: PP has been arrogant, has made poor team selections and signings. he has had very negative tactics which have backfired. but i am so fed up with us changing our manager every season I hope we keep him as see how he gets on next season.

Sorry Victor Clayton but football is a results based business and so far nothing suggest to me he has earned the right to have another season at the helm,in fact it's a frightening thought after this seasons debacle !....

you might well be right, but it can not be a coincidence that our last 3 (at least) managers have struggled. can't help thinking there has been some input from above, especially with regards to Jackos player.

"can't help thinking there has been some input from above" by that comment you mean God ?. :-)

not sure i would go that far!

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

bwwb wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)

Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.

Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.

My maths is not flawed yours is.
01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket.
This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal.
So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years.

This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

bwwb wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)

Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.

Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.

My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.

I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.

nowt fresh wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
I don't actually think it is dross, I have been thouroughly entertained for the majority of this season, a few games aside, even when losing we have put in a good effort or had thrills n spills. I will be purchasing my ST next week after Easter, not result dependant I will add. Not division dependant but because I am a City fan and it is what I do.

Good for you Prisoner Cell Block A re you purchasing your next season ticket after Easter but the rest of your post is rather frightening to me as I could not have been watching the same games as you at Valley Parade this season, take out at best 5/6 league games and the rest have been dire IMO but then again that's what watching football is all about "opinions".

nowt fresh wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

bwwb wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)

Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.

Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.

My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.

I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.

Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)

nowt fresh wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

bwwb wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)

Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.

Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.

My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.

I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.

Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)

Scargutt2 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

bwwb wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)

Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.

Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.

My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.

I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.

Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)

Haha, I was not trying to be morbid - and I certainly hope you are around the next time City are in the premier league, although I rather suspect you don't mean next year's potential drop in to the Blue Square Premier!

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

bwwb wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)

Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.

Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.

My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.

I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.

Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)

The discounts won't continue indefinately, you've been proven hopelessly wrong and instead of admitting so, are making up utter garbage to try back up your claims that they are a good deal. I'm sure you'll find someone who'll sell you one on for it's remainder.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

bwwb wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)

Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.

Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.

My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.

I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.

Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)

The discounts won't continue indefinately, you've been proven hopelessly wrong and instead of admitting so, are making up utter garbage to try back up your claims that they are a good deal. I'm sure you'll find someone who'll sell you one on for it's remainder.

I'll like to add 25 year ticket holders have been asked for about £1000 extra in season by season fees on top of their initial outlay.

I see 20 years at the absolute maximum these will run for which would make it about £125 per season, then add on the additional fee, which next season is £120, so whilst your paying £199, the 25 year holders will be paying £245, based on 20 years, still more than you will be.

These people are warning you off at what could happen, yet you seem to think they got a good deal.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

bwwb wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)

Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.

bwwb wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

bwwb wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)

Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.

To make it clear, not only have I held a season ticket since 1962/3 but also bought 3 25 year season tickets. I am also aware that under the 2003 admin the 25 years was shortened to 15 years and runs out in 2013/4. If we get relegated no discount will be applied next year. I understand fully what £2500 means I will however continue to support the club whether or not I get a discount

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

bwwb wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)

Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.

Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.

My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.

I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.

Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)

The discounts won't continue indefinately, you've been proven hopelessly wrong and instead of admitting so, are making up utter garbage to try back up your claims that they are a good deal. I'm sure you'll find someone who'll sell you one on for it's remainder.

I'll like to add 25 year ticket holders have been asked for about £1000 extra in season by season fees on top of their initial outlay. I see 20 years at the absolute maximum these will run for which would make it about £125 per season, then add on the additional fee, which next season is £120, so whilst your paying £199, the 25 year holders will be paying £245, based on 20 years, still more than you will be. These people are warning you off at what could happen, yet you seem to think they got a good deal.

Last attempt from me. I was only talking about mathematics, not whether the tickets were a good deal or whether anyone should be buying one. Try reading what i've written again and you might understand that. If you still don't, there's not much I can do to help you.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

Scargutt2 wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

bwwb wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

Your £2500 has given you free or discounted football for at least 12 years. We were in the Premier League when you bought it so you have suffered at least 3 relegations since you started supporting the team why would one more relegation make a difference to your support They will not go out of business so get your £110 out and buy a ticket now ( allowing for your 25 year discount)

Free or discounted football. What part of the he parted with £2500 don't you understand? £2500 divided by the 12 seasons so far is £208, then he has to pay £120 next season so in total it will cost him £328 for next seasons ticket where as yours will be £199. Great deal.

Your mathematical argument is flawed. If you divide the £2500 by 12, then this being the 13th season since the 25 year season ticket, the slate is finally cleared, meaning the best rate for a long time of only £110.

My maths is not flawed yours is. 01/02 was the first year of the 25 year ticket. This makes the 12/13 season the 12th year of the deal. So divide £2500 by 12, you keeping up with this and you get £208. Then add next years price of £120 makes £328. This also doesn't include the hundreds of pounds charged in previous years. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if one of the directors at the time of the deal wasn't still joint chairman of this club.

I don't wish to get in to a lengthy conflab with you, but my point was that the discounts offered to 25 year season ticket holders will probably continue indefinitely, meaning that to accurately calculate your 'sum' you would need to wait until Nowt Fresh's demise (or even longer, and work out a mean life expectancy for all 25 year ST holders) before you could accurately back up your point in this way. I'm sure you realise that though, you're just being stubborn.

Don't be waiting for my "demise" Scargutt2 I may be 64 year sold but I'm not for the nackers yard just yet, in fact I hope to stick around long enough to see City back in the Premier League :-)

The discounts won't continue indefinately, you've been proven hopelessly wrong and instead of admitting so, are making up utter garbage to try back up your claims that they are a good deal. I'm sure you'll find someone who'll sell you one on for it's remainder.

I'll like to add 25 year ticket holders have been asked for about £1000 extra in season by season fees on top of their initial outlay. I see 20 years at the absolute maximum these will run for which would make it about £125 per season, then add on the additional fee, which next season is £120, so whilst your paying £199, the 25 year holders will be paying £245, based on 20 years, still more than you will be. These people are warning you off at what could happen, yet you seem to think they got a good deal.

Last attempt from me. I was only talking about mathematics, not whether the tickets were a good deal or whether anyone should be buying one. Try reading what i've written again and you might understand that. If you still don't, there's not much I can do to help you.

Someone who knows better about the situation than me has confirmed the 25 year tickets were reduced to 15. This puts the indefinately rubbish to bed. So really we see £2500 divided by 15 which is £167, then add next years season fee of £120 and the 25 years will be paying £287 for their season ticket next year compared to £199 for the non 25 years.

My maths have been correct all along on this. It is you who can't see what is being said.

You've been proved totally wrong yet still won't admit it. Indefinate discount, sigh.

prince35 wrote:
Who gives a monkeys over the 25 yr season tkt debate. Fans got ripped off end of subject.

prince35 wrote:
Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.

citytilidie465 wrote:
good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.

Nickloza wrote:
I know it's off subject but it's just come out from Crawley Town FC and I quote "A welcoming family club" about the punishment to their players http://www1.skysport s.com/football/news/ 11750/7650051/

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:

prince35 wrote:
Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.

ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team

prince35 wrote:
@nowtfresh. Just silly to be banging on about the past. Go see Richmond!!!. Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.

ricky76 wrote:

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:

prince35 wrote:
Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.

ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team

I am still waiting for shaun and co to answer my questions over the last few weeks if PP was sacked who would they want in charge and why and also why is shaun so pro jacko when his record was so bad

prince35 wrote:
Who gives a monkeys over the 25 yr season tkt debate. Fans got ripped off end of subject.

prince35 wrote:
@moanmoanwhingewhing

e.
I sincerly hope chairman lawn does read these comments and does decide to pull his money out.
Chairman lawn put in 1 million loan with interest attached allegedly??.
Well why not us the loyal supportw
er get together and raise the 1 mil and give chairman lawn his money back and appoint our own elected cty supporter to represent us on the bradford cty board!!!.
At least we can vote on who the electorate would be if were not hapoy vote somebody else onto the board.

shaun from richmond wrote:
LAWN can Support "Deadbeat" all he wants!!!......BUT I WONT!!. After stabbing "Jacko" in the back then trying to humiliate him.....LAWN can shove it!!. "DEADBEAT OUT"!!

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:

citytilidie465 wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.

Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:

prince35 wrote: Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.

ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team

prince35 wrote:
@nickloza.
Well I do have my unemployment benefit I can ii???

prince35 wrote:
@nickloza. I'm going to have a word with our newly elected mp Mr George galloway !!!!. He may be able to help find investment in our great club.

nowt fresh wrote:

prince35 wrote: @nickloza. I'm going to have a word with our newly elected mp Mr George galloway !!!!. He may be able to help find investment in our great club.

Behind the times again prince35 http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=prjMlu26P ss&feature=youtu
.be Listen towhat hesay about 10/11 minutesinto the video !.

shaun from richmond wrote:

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:

citytilidie465 wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.

Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do

Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!.
"Deadbeat"OUT!!
.

prince35 wrote:
Can I these posters on here leave shaun from Richmond alone!!!. Shaun was the one on here that told us about parkys management skills.

i miss stallard & murray wrote:
We are on a down wood spiral. Its not just the Plymouth game its the results since the turn of the year. I will get behind the team but with this idiot we are not goin to have a team next season. Even if we manage to stay up changes are required to move us forward. Man management skills are lacking. He likes to wheel and deal if we keep him I wud put a bet on a high number of players been used this time next season. We do need stability but not only in terms of a manager but a settled startin eleven and a settled squad as wel. I just think the stability needs to be with the correct manager and for me deadbeat does not offer anythin positive and no stability on his part.

prince35 wrote:
My team to face southend
Duke
Mitchell
Fry
Branston
Bullock
Wells
Jones
Syers
Reid
Hanson
Wells.
I doubt Parky will pick such an batting team on Friday.
That's the way I would go

nowt fresh wrote:
Are you for real Mr Lawn ?? Bradford City have already taken £2,500 from me after the 25 year season ticket fiasco now you want me to stump up more of my hard earned cash when you have publicly said if we were to get relegated it would be the end of Bradford City football club as we know it, you really are loosing all credibility with comments like those above

lonniejockstrap wrote:

shaun from richmond wrote:

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:

citytilidie465 wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.

Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do

Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!. "Deadbeat"OUT!! .

Is that because you didn't want to lose your golfing partner Shaun? -and of course you would have had to face up to him face to face, which kinda tests one's bravery a tad more than from a website. On a serious note, what is it that so impressed you about Jacko as a Manager. If Lawn 'stabbed Jacko in the back' as you claim. Why did he even bother giving him the job (permanent) only a couple of months earlier in the first place? Lawn didn't need to do him from behind if he didn't want him, he could have simply got PP in at the time instead of offering Jacko the job. Can you tell or is it to be saved for a book? From what I read, it came across JR wasn't too impressed with Jacko's work-rate. Can you shed any light on that?

KnightMcCall wrote:

shaun from richmond wrote: LAWN can Support "Deadbeat" all he wants!!!......BUT I WONT!!. After stabbing "Jacko" in the back then trying to humiliate him.....LAWN can shove it!!. "DEADBEAT OUT"!!

Shaun, just two things. Firstly, is it too much to ask that you stop being so offensive towards the manager of the football team that you support. Secondly; given that you have such a strong dislike of Mark Lawn for what you believe he did to Jacko; shouldn't you direct your anger at Lawn rather than PP?

Nickloza wrote:

ricky76 wrote:

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:

prince35 wrote:
Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.

ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team

I am still waiting for shaun and co to answer my questions over the last few weeks if PP was sacked who would they want in charge and why and also why is shaun so pro jacko when his record was so bad

I have asked the same question and as of yet received only abuse for being 'pro Parky' when actually I'm pro City, he is the current manager like it or not and as fans its our job to get behind the club especially in our current predicament. Its no good saying after every result 'sack PP ML out' they never give an alternative solution. If they have one I along with every other city fan would love to hear it. Bearing in mind there is no-one knocking on the door with bags of money to throw at the club. So once again we need to go with what we have got and SUPPORT the club.

dannbradfc wrote:

Nickloza wrote:

ricky76 wrote:

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:

prince35 wrote:
Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.

ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team

I am still waiting for shaun and co to answer my questions over the last few weeks if PP was sacked who would they want in charge and why and also why is shaun so pro jacko when his record was so bad

I have asked the same question and as of yet received only abuse for being 'pro Parky' when actually I'm pro City, he is the current manager like it or not and as fans its our job to get behind the club especially in our current predicament. Its no good saying after every result 'sack PP ML out' they never give an alternative solution. If they have one I along with every other city fan would love to hear it. Bearing in mind there is no-one knocking on the door with bags of money to throw at the club. So once again we need to go with what we have got and SUPPORT the club.

there been plenty of alternatives.

one been attacking the opposition.

another to have a long term startegy and not abandon a season and squad after only 6 games in.

another would be to use a squad of 22 players say and ONLY add loans when required and the way loans were originally intended.

another would be if you PROMISE that this year would bring about more exciting football and entertainment that you employ the man who fits these terms....

another might be that if you come up with an idea e.g. the development squad, and invest in it you make sure that its viable and thus not turn round just a few months later bemoaning its benefits and costs...

and on and on......

perhaps you should pay more attention as i and others have been pointing these sorts of 'alternative solutions' out for seasons now......

dannbradfc wrote:

dannbradfc wrote:

Nickloza wrote:

ricky76 wrote:

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:

prince35 wrote:
Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.

ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team

I am still waiting for shaun and co to answer my questions over the last few weeks if PP was sacked who would they want in charge and why and also why is shaun so pro jacko when his record was so bad

I have asked the same question and as of yet received only abuse for being 'pro Parky' when actually I'm pro City, he is the current manager like it or not and as fans its our job to get behind the club especially in our current predicament. Its no good saying after every result 'sack PP ML out' they never give an alternative solution. If they have one I along with every other city fan would love to hear it. Bearing in mind there is no-one knocking on the door with bags of money to throw at the club. So once again we need to go with what we have got and SUPPORT the club.

there been plenty of alternatives.

one been attacking the opposition.

another to have a long term startegy and not abandon a season and squad after only 6 games in.

another would be to use a squad of 22 players say and ONLY add loans when required and the way loans were originally intended.

another would be if you PROMISE that this year would bring about more exciting football and entertainment that you employ the man who fits these terms....

another might be that if you come up with an idea e.g. the development squad, and invest in it you make sure that its viable and thus not turn round just a few months later bemoaning its benefits and costs...

and on and on......

perhaps you should pay more attention as i and others have been pointing these sorts of 'alternative solutions' out for seasons now......

ps they aren't even radical alternative solutions, just common-sense and learnig from past mistakes.

Its not the fans making these mistakes over and over. Some maybe guilty of short-termism themselves and also looking for someone or something to blame and/or explain our poor situation. Buts thats 'cos they are fans and thats what ALL fans do.

We cannot effect the running and direction of this club more than the chairman and manager and perhaps there lies the crux of your original question.....

shaun from richmond wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

shaun from richmond wrote:

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:

citytilidie465 wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.

Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do

Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!. "Deadbeat"OUT!! .

Is that because you didn't want to lose your golfing partner Shaun? -and of course you would have had to face up to him face to face, which kinda tests one's bravery a tad more than from a website. On a serious note, what is it that so impressed you about Jacko as a Manager. If Lawn 'stabbed Jacko in the back' as you claim. Why did he even bother giving him the job (permanent) only a couple of months earlier in the first place? Lawn didn't need to do him from behind if he didn't want him, he could have simply got PP in at the time instead of offering Jacko the job. Can you tell or is it to be saved for a book? From what I read, it came across JR wasn't too impressed with Jacko's work-rate. Can you shed any light on that?

I have no problem in stating "Jacko" is a mate!!....I can assure you we have had plenty of heated debates over the years!!..I can also assure you he is a Top Bloke!!.
Your second point.....They had to give him the job....because he did what he said he would do....Saved us from relegation!!.
3rd point....Your right they wanted a Coach who would work 15 hours a day! (they have that now!!...and hes RUBBISH). But what is unforgivable is Lawn (Not JR, he has some class) then tried to humiliate him......and thats just WRONG!!.

bobbyo wrote:
total90,s post at 9.25 am, brilliant wording and best post of the day, well said total90....
C,T,I, D.

lonniejockstrap wrote:

shaun from richmond wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

shaun from richmond wrote:

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:

citytilidie465 wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.

Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do

Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!. "Deadbeat"OUT!! .

Is that because you didn't want to lose your golfing partner Shaun? -and of course you would have had to face up to him face to face, which kinda tests one's bravery a tad more than from a website. On a serious note, what is it that so impressed you about Jacko as a Manager. If Lawn 'stabbed Jacko in the back' as you claim. Why did he even bother giving him the job (permanent) only a couple of months earlier in the first place? Lawn didn't need to do him from behind if he didn't want him, he could have simply got PP in at the time instead of offering Jacko the job. Can you tell or is it to be saved for a book? From what I read, it came across JR wasn't too impressed with Jacko's work-rate. Can you shed any light on that?

I have no problem in stating "Jacko" is a mate!!....I can assure you we have had plenty of heated debates over the years!!..I can also assure you he is a Top Bloke!!. Your second point.....They had to give him the job....because he did what he said he would do....Saved us from relegation!!. 3rd point....Your right they wanted a Coach who would work 15 hours a day! (they have that now!!...and hes RUBBISH). But what is unforgivable is Lawn (Not JR, he has some class) then tried to humiliate him......and thats just WRONG!!.

First of all, I have met Jacko a couple of times. Nice bloke, I have no issue with him personally. I also did my Coaching Badge on the same course as him and, again, he came across as a nice bloke. I wish him well. Now then. I can't agree that the Chairmen 'had to give him the job' Shaun. Where's your evidence for this? There was no contract (unless you know otherwise?) and IMO no obligation either. Because Jacko's performance up to the end of the season (14 games) was worse than PT's first 14 games, last 14 games and even his 'middle' 14 games. Therefore, I think it's untrue, and not born out by the facts, to say he 'saved us from relegation' if the claim is that he improved the results. He didn't. It was simply a case of Jacko being the manager of the team that had a worse return of points when compared to the same amount of games played under PT. How could Jacko have 'saved us from relegation' when he had a worse record than PT? it doesn't make sense. The team didn't perform better under Jacko it performed worse. BUT! it managed to avoid relegation.

lonniejockstrap wrote:

bobbyo wrote:
total90,s post at 9.25 am, brilliant wording and best post of the day, well said total90....
C,T,I, D.

Agree, it's a good sensible post is that.

lonniejockstrap wrote:

bobbyo wrote:
total90,s post at 9.25 am, brilliant wording and best post of the day, well said total90....
C,T,I, D.

Agree, it's a good sensible post is that.

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:

prince35 wrote:
Chairman lawn must think the supporter of this football club are stupid????. Why would the majority of supporters buy a season tkt when league status is not secure. We pay £200 the club gets relegated and we never see the £200 again. Seems lately chairman lawn is having a snipe at supporters weekly. Although I admire chairman lawns stance on parkinson (dead beat) , the stance was never there for jacko, Taylor, mccall.

ANYONE who reads these T&A comments on a regular basis thinks our fans are stupid. Quoting Shaun the Sh1ts favourite insult towards Parky (which he has used for all City managers of recent years apart from his boyfriend Jacko) doesn't exactly mark you out of possessing great intelligence does it? Keep on moaning though, the constant sniping, whingeing and **** over the last few years has really, really helped the team. God forbid anyone of the T&A tools actually go to the ground and try to encourage the team. Some of our 'fans' don't deserve to have a team. If Mark Lawn reads the sh1t you brain drains come out with I wouldn't blame him for withdrawing his money. No doubt if he did our successful business gurus such as Shaun & Lancashire Bantam would take a break from their busy careers moaning on here to invest their own millions into the team

nowt fresh wrote:

prince35 wrote:
@nowtfresh. Just silly to be banging on about the past. Go see Richmond!!!. Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.

No prince35 thisis what you posted: prince35 says...
4:47pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Who gives a monkeys over the 25 yr season tkt debate.
Fans got ripped off end of subject.”
nothing like : Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.

shaun from richmond wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

shaun from richmond wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

shaun from richmond wrote:

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:

citytilidie465 wrote: good comment Lawny. Same position when we were in league one. Sacked Todd and went down. Lets get behind the boys on Friday and take 3 points.

Christ, a sensible comment on the T&A website, nice one. Just hope actual fans get behind the team. Once we've stayed up Shaun & co can exert fan power to get PP sacked. Then once he's gone they can begin complaining and ripping the next manager to shreds the instant he takes over. Like they ALWAYS do

Dont think you would EVER have read a negative comment from me about the previous manager!!.....SO that makes your post..WRONG!!. "Deadbeat"OUT!! .

Is that because you didn't want to lose your golfing partner Shaun? -and of course you would have had to face up to him face to face, which kinda tests one's bravery a tad more than from a website. On a serious note, what is it that so impressed you about Jacko as a Manager. If Lawn 'stabbed Jacko in the back' as you claim. Why did he even bother giving him the job (permanent) only a couple of months earlier in the first place? Lawn didn't need to do him from behind if he didn't want him, he could have simply got PP in at the time instead of offering Jacko the job. Can you tell or is it to be saved for a book? From what I read, it came across JR wasn't too impressed with Jacko's work-rate. Can you shed any light on that?

I have no problem in stating "Jacko" is a mate!!....I can assure you we have had plenty of heated debates over the years!!..I can also assure you he is a Top Bloke!!. Your second point.....They had to give him the job....because he did what he said he would do....Saved us from relegation!!. 3rd point....Your right they wanted a Coach who would work 15 hours a day! (they have that now!!...and hes RUBBISH). But what is unforgivable is Lawn (Not JR, he has some class) then tried to humiliate him......and thats just WRONG!!.

First of all, I have met Jacko a couple of times. Nice bloke, I have no issue with him personally. I also did my Coaching Badge on the same course as him and, again, he came across as a nice bloke. I wish him well. Now then. I can't agree that the Chairmen 'had to give him the job' Shaun. Where's your evidence for this? There was no contract (unless you know otherwise?) and IMO no obligation either. Because Jacko's performance up to the end of the season (14 games) was worse than PT's first 14 games, last 14 games and even his 'middle' 14 games. Therefore, I think it's untrue, and not born out by the facts, to say he 'saved us from relegation' if the claim is that he improved the results. He didn't. It was simply a case of Jacko being the manager of the team that had a worse return of points when compared to the same amount of games played under PT. How could Jacko have 'saved us from relegation' when he had a worse record than PT? it doesn't make sense. The team didn't perform better under Jacko it performed worse. BUT! it managed to avoid relegation.

IMO...and Lawn/JR and many supporters (But clearly not you) Taylors team was going down!!. "Jacko", somehow managed to save us! (imo).
My real gripe is how they got rid of "Jacko" and then tried to humiliate him.......It was very poor!!.
BUT YOU AND ME WILL NEVER AGREE ON ANYTHING!!.

eebygum wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

prince35 wrote: @nowtfresh. Just silly to be banging on about the past. Go see Richmond!!!. Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.

No prince35 thisis what you posted: prince35 says... 4:47pm Wed 4 Apr 12 Who gives a monkeys over the 25 yr season tkt debate. Fans got ripped off end of subject.” nothing like : Like I said unfortunately those that bought a 25 year season tkt got ripped off.

I do care those people are the life blood of this club if you cut their heart out it would read City till I die those people who you say you don't give a Monkeys about as you so quaintly put it helped save this club when many could not or chose not to so please show some respect!!! If you can't you don't deserve to comment on the club many of us love. NO I AM NOT A 25 YEAR SEASON TICKET HOLDER.