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Taylor calls on Bradford City to overcome fear factor


Peter Taylor will send out City to conquer their home jitters tomorrow with the warning: Don’t look for any sympathy from me.

The Bantams boss expects a strong response against Port Vale after their previous poor Valley Parade showings.

Taylor has been pleased with what he has seen in training since the Southend loss but the acid test will come in front of the home fans.

He said: “I don’t want anything to change here. We’ve got 11,000 people watching us, which is brilliant for the club.

“I’m sure that’s why we’ve got certain people here because they wanted to play in front of a crowd like that. Now it’s up to the players to handle that.

“I’m not going to feel sorry for them that they are under pressure. They’ve got to deal with that.”

Flat home displays against Stevenage and Southend have caused concern among supporters and City are already nine points off the leaders after just four games.

Taylor said: “I actually think performance is more important than result. If I was a supporter, I’d want to see Bradford City run around more than Port Vale.

“And as a manager, I want to come off the pitch saying we deserved to get something out of that.

“I don’t want to say we deserved to get beaten because we were nervous and didn’t perform like I had to do last week.

“It’s only our fifth league game, so there’s nothing crazy in that situation, but supporters want to see a team that are desperate to do well.

“We’ve worked on quite a lot on the training field and had some good meetings to talk about standards and preparation.

“If we can work very hard as a group, I still think we’ve got a good chance of doing well.”

Jake Speight is poised for his first start after impressing coming off the bench in the last two matches but few others are certain of their place.

Shane Duff could return to the heart of defence, while Taylor also insisted that club captain Zesh Rehman is very much in his plans.

Rehman, who was linked with a move away from City in the summer, captained the side against Preston but was also left out last Friday.

Taylor said: “He’s a fantastic professional and probably unlucky not to be playing at the minute.

“But if I carried on changing everything, people would keep saying that I changed the team all the time.

“In the games we’ve played, Zesh has done well and not done well; Luke Oliver has done well and not done well.

“Shane Duff had his best game against Torquay and for my own reasons I decided not to put him back in (to play Southend) because I thought Luke and Steve Williams looked a very good partnership against Preston and deserved another chance.

“We do need two players for every position and we’ve got that with the centre halves.

“It doesn’t mean I don’t rate Zesh and he might play tomorrow. All the centre halves have got different strengths.”

Comments(35)

gary turner says...
6:53am Fri 3 Sep 10

to give heart and hope for patience from City fans. anyone at the City/ Torquay game last september would have seen Torquay play City 'off the park' in terms of football, City could not string 2 pass,s together but won 2-0. Torquay stuck to their task and finished the season on a high with a string of wins.they have continued that trend, so give City a chance to achieve the same. Gazza

tyker says...
8:07am Fri 3 Sep 10

the article indicates that the players are frightened of playing in front of big crowds:what do they want ? to play in front of an empty stadium with a couple of thousand in it?

If players cannot raise their game in front of a big crowd they have no real future and perhaps this is the problem. they know they cannot hack it at this level.

Perhamps PT should get PAUL MCKENNA in to sort out the players' attitudes and thought processes

gspot says...
8:38am Fri 3 Sep 10

it's bonkers this scared of crowd nonsense....that's whay the city fans originally moved to the bradford end because the players at the time said it was intimidating walking out of the tunnel and having their fans there - it must be terrifing to walk out onto the pitch with a few hundred away fans abusing you...LOL.
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Imagine if we drew Man Utd @ Old Trafford in the FA Cup the players wouldn't sleep for weeks at the thought of it.....sad but makes me chuckle.
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what a set of wufters!!!

Meat Pie says...
8:41am Fri 3 Sep 10

Sorry, but I am sick & tired of hearing excuses being made for Bradford City footballers while we continue to watch season after season of utter garbage.

You would think that the players would thank their lucky stars to be playing in front of so many people (at this level) and surely that's part of what they've aspired to in order to become professional players? Did they not realise as they rose through the ranks that professional football clubs attract crowds? Aren't the club paying these players to be professional footballers or have they not understood part of the job description? It beggars belief.

It is absolute rubbish to point the finger at the crowd (paying customers, I might add!) as PT as done previously when everything culminates from what those players do on the pitch every Saturday.

Why not start there PT, on the pitch, with the players and please give us something to cheer about.

bantam26 says...
9:15am Fri 3 Sep 10

Does this mean we have to get promoted via automatic beacuse can you imagine the players at wembley. and is it just me or is everyone sick of the telegraph and argus turfing out the same story everyday but changing a few bits we know they are scared or valley parade but just tell us something new as your healines are only adding to the pressure that is put upon them.

fatbloke says...
9:33am Fri 3 Sep 10

Simples pick eleven that are not scared or not lacking in confidence....
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to name a few in my opinion from the back..(Ramsden & Flynn woud be obvious but not fit so hear we go)
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Duff
Doherty
Speight
Moult
.
Lets just revert to 5-a-side and get a team at goals.

Waynus71 says...
10:51am Fri 3 Sep 10

Whilst I agree that the players should be able to operate on the field as professional footballers, I do understand where Taylor is coming from.
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A lot of these young lads have never played under so much pressure or in front of such big crowds. They have played most of their games in front of 200-300 fans in the Premier Reserve leagues. Now they find that a mistake will be booed from their own fans. Hardly going to take the pressure off is it?
.
On another story, PCBA, mentioned the fans in the TL Dallas getting behind the players and more secions of the ground should follow suit. Sadly, their vocal chanting isn't always supportive! Whilst I fully agree that all sides of the ground need to get behind the team, I don't think a fair reflection of the TL Dallas stand has been painted.
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As a season ticket holder in there, I am consistently aggrieved at the chanting from this side. They beat their drums and sing, but it is always the same 3 or four chants. Furthermore, they are the FIRST to turn on the players for making a mistake and boo the players regularly. In fact, last Friday, I stood up (very brave of me.. or just stupid) and started my own chant towards them, "I'm fickle til I tie..."!
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I then got into an argument with a fan that was booing. He simply said "well we aren't playing well so what should I do, applaud?" I responded with, "Yes, you ought to try getting behind the team instead of being the oppositon's 12th man"! He, and his party, left the ground 25 minutes from full-time, still booing.
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We all need to be our 12th man, encouraging the players and not be so eager to boo. I doubt that will catch on though...sadly!

city442 says...
11:18am Fri 3 Sep 10

Meat Pie wrote:
Sorry, but I am sick & tired of hearing excuses being made for Bradford City footballers while we continue to watch season after season of utter garbage. You would think that the players would thank their lucky stars to be playing in front of so many people (at this level) and surely that's part of what they've aspired to in order to become professional players? Did they not realise as they rose through the ranks that professional football clubs attract crowds? Aren't the club paying these players to be professional footballers or have they not understood part of the job description? It beggars belief. It is absolute rubbish to point the finger at the crowd (paying customers, I might add!) as PT as done previously when everything culminates from what those players do on the pitch every Saturday. Why not start there PT, on the pitch, with the players and please give us something to cheer about.
I really do hope that PT does not read the daily posts on here!
If he does, he must think that his team is supported by the biggest bunch of rubber-heads that he has ever come across in his life!!!!
All he has basically done is stated that he thinks the team is playing with fear at home, which is true! Then said that BCFC is not the club for them if they havn't got the bottle, which is also true!
Then you get nuggets like MEAT PIE from MILTON KEYNES posting above that he is sick of PT pointing the finger at the crowd for what is happening!
Well MEAT PIE, if you read the article carefully, you will see that he is not pointing the finger at the crowd and says having 11,000 watching is brilliant you STIT without an S!!!
You are not 1 of them cows on the roundabouts in MK are you, because you sound like you have the sense of 1!!!

Meat Pie says...
11:29am Fri 3 Sep 10

city442 wrote:
Meat Pie wrote: Sorry, but I am sick & tired of hearing excuses being made for Bradford City footballers while we continue to watch season after season of utter garbage. You would think that the players would thank their lucky stars to be playing in front of so many people (at this level) and surely that's part of what they've aspired to in order to become professional players? Did they not realise as they rose through the ranks that professional football clubs attract crowds? Aren't the club paying these players to be professional footballers or have they not understood part of the job description? It beggars belief. It is absolute rubbish to point the finger at the crowd (paying customers, I might add!) as PT as done previously when everything culminates from what those players do on the pitch every Saturday. Why not start there PT, on the pitch, with the players and please give us something to cheer about.
I really do hope that PT does not read the daily posts on here! If he does, he must think that his team is supported by the biggest bunch of rubber-heads that he has ever come across in his life!!!! All he has basically done is stated that he thinks the team is playing with fear at home, which is true! Then said that BCFC is not the club for them if they havn't got the bottle, which is also true! Then you get nuggets like MEAT PIE from MILTON KEYNES posting above that he is sick of PT pointing the finger at the crowd for what is happening! Well MEAT PIE, if you read the article carefully, you will see that he is not pointing the finger at the crowd and says having 11,000 watching is brilliant you STIT without an S!!! You are not 1 of them cows on the roundabouts in MK are you, because you sound like you have the sense of 1!!!
Not that it' sowt to do with you but I was refering to previous T&A articles (I did make this clear in my post) when PT stated that the crowd needs to look at themselves and the part they have played in the past 10 years of failure.

So why don't you wind your neck in and and read more carefully before gobbing off.

gspot says...
11:47am Fri 3 Sep 10

fatbloke wrote:
Simples pick eleven that are not scared or not lacking in confidence.... . to name a few in my opinion from the back..(Ramsden & Flynn woud be obvious but not fit so hear we go) . Duff Doherty Speight Moult . Lets just revert to 5-a-side and get a team at goals.
LOL....
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i think we should all wear scary masks on saturday and see how scared they are then - i'm gonna dress up as the scream guy in the costume or maybe freddy krugger - they would shudder in fear, maybe even refuse to come out.
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i can imagine sky sports news having a good old chuckle about it.

eebygum says...
11:56am Fri 3 Sep 10

Booing and Jeering your own team does make a difference, I have followed City for over 43 years and can remember when they have been cheered when they have not really deserved it and then the next game they have come out and played like heros. As I have said many times before if you have someone shouting abuse at you then you are always frightened to do the things you would normally do and tend to play the safe option a square pass or back pass
or dwell on the ball and lose possession.
If you doubt it effects them think back to when Stuart was manager and our away record was better.
We ought to be saving the barracking for the opponents get behind the lads.
We all like to see them play well and are disappointed when we don't but bite your tongue and give them a chance to make amends. My prediction 2-0 Moult and Speight goals.
COME ON CITY!!!!!!!!!!!

bazzathetyke says...
12:19pm Fri 3 Sep 10

Meat Pie wrote:
city442 wrote:
Meat Pie wrote: Sorry, but I am sick & tired of hearing excuses being made for Bradford City footballers while we continue to watch season after season of utter garbage. You would think that the players would thank their lucky stars to be playing in front of so many people (at this level) and surely that's part of what they've aspired to in order to become professional players? Did they not realise as they rose through the ranks that professional football clubs attract crowds? Aren't the club paying these players to be professional footballers or have they not understood part of the job description? It beggars belief. It is absolute rubbish to point the finger at the crowd (paying customers, I might add!) as PT as done previously when everything culminates from what those players do on the pitch every Saturday. Why not start there PT, on the pitch, with the players and please give us something to cheer about.
I really do hope that PT does not read the daily posts on here! If he does, he must think that his team is supported by the biggest bunch of rubber-heads that he has ever come across in his life!!!! All he has basically done is stated that he thinks the team is playing with fear at home, which is true! Then said that BCFC is not the club for them if they havn't got the bottle, which is also true! Then you get nuggets like MEAT PIE from MILTON KEYNES posting above that he is sick of PT pointing the finger at the crowd for what is happening! Well MEAT PIE, if you read the article carefully, you will see that he is not pointing the finger at the crowd and says having 11,000 watching is brilliant you STIT without an S!!! You are not 1 of them cows on the roundabouts in MK are you, because you sound like you have the sense of 1!!!
Not that it' sowt to do with you but I was refering to previous T&A articles (I did make this clear in my post) when PT stated that the crowd needs to look at themselves and the part they have played in the past 10 years of failure. So why don't you wind your neck in and and read more carefully before gobbing off.
city442, is it your time of month?

gspot says...
12:28pm Fri 3 Sep 10

eebygum wrote:
Booing and Jeering your own team does make a difference, I have followed City for over 43 years and can remember when they have been cheered when they have not really deserved it and then the next game they have come out and played like heros. As I have said many times before if you have someone shouting abuse at you then you are always frightened to do the things you would normally do and tend to play the safe option a square pass or back pass or dwell on the ball and lose possession. If you doubt it effects them think back to when Stuart was manager and our away record was better. We ought to be saving the barracking for the opponents get behind the lads. We all like to see them play well and are disappointed when we don't but bite your tongue and give them a chance to make amends. My prediction 2-0 Moult and Speight goals. COME ON CITY!!!!!!!!!!!
i agree with you 100% but it's impossible to stop all the negatrons booing and this happens at all clubs and does nothing but put a negative feel over to the players........but whilst saying that the players must be big and man enough to realise these morons who boo don't know their **** from their elbow and rise above it - if they don't it is the player who will be penalised.
Look at Zesh for example when he was booed (the worst case i can remember) by half the ground last season and he was big and man enough to rise above it and has improved since in my eyes, so hats off to him for that.
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Fans will be fans (not that i agree with them) and the players need to rise above them and go out there and earn their crust because at the end of the day that is what they are paid to do.

bcfc1903 says...
1:54pm Fri 3 Sep 10

You seem to be repeating yourself Waynus71,are you a robot lol

I'm quite happy with the level of the support from the TS Dallas stand,you'll always get a few in any part of the ground that boo....keep up the good work fellas and ladies lol...hopefully three points on saturday will get our season rolling ...CTID.

bcfc1903 says...
1:59pm Fri 3 Sep 10

Waynus71 wrote:
Whilst I agree that the players should be able to operate on the field as professional footballers, I do understand where Taylor is coming from. . A lot of these young lads have never played under so much pressure or in front of such big crowds. They have played most of their games in front of 200-300 fans in the Premier Reserve leagues. Now they find that a mistake will be booed from their own fans. Hardly going to take the pressure off is it? . On another story, PCBA, mentioned the fans in the TL Dallas getting behind the players and more secions of the ground should follow suit. Sadly, their vocal chanting isn't always supportive! Whilst I fully agree that all sides of the ground need to get behind the team, I don't think a fair reflection of the TL Dallas stand has been painted. . As a season ticket holder in there, I am consistently aggrieved at the chanting from this side. They beat their drums and sing, but it is always the same 3 or four chants. Furthermore, they are the FIRST to turn on the players for making a mistake and boo the players regularly. In fact, last Friday, I stood up (very brave of me.. or just stupid) and started my own chant towards them, "I'm fickle til I tie..."! . I then got into an argument with a fan that was booing. He simply said "well we aren't playing well so what should I do, applaud?" I responded with, "Yes, you ought to try getting behind the team instead of being the oppositon's 12th man"! He, and his party, left the ground 25 minutes from full-time, still booing. . We all need to be our 12th man, encouraging the players and not be so eager to boo. I doubt that will catch on though...sadly!
You seem to be repeating yourself Waynus71,are you a robot lol

I'm quite happy with the level of the support from the TL Dallas stand,you'll always get a few in any part of the ground that boo....keep up the good work fellas and ladies lol...hopefully three points on saturday will get our season rolling .CTID

SDU_Bantam says...
2:02pm Fri 3 Sep 10

Sorry bantam26 but the play-off final won't be at Wembley this season. Thanks to the Champions League final the only play-off final at Wembley will be the Championship game. Lucky for BCAFC as the nerves won't be there for a big crowd when we reach the final :o)

Waynus71 says...
2:43pm Fri 3 Sep 10

bcfc1903 wrote:
Waynus71 wrote: Whilst I agree that the players should be able to operate on the field as professional footballers, I do understand where Taylor is coming from. . A lot of these young lads have never played under so much pressure or in front of such big crowds. They have played most of their games in front of 200-300 fans in the Premier Reserve leagues. Now they find that a mistake will be booed from their own fans. Hardly going to take the pressure off is it? . On another story, PCBA, mentioned the fans in the TL Dallas getting behind the players and more secions of the ground should follow suit. Sadly, their vocal chanting isn't always supportive! Whilst I fully agree that all sides of the ground need to get behind the team, I don't think a fair reflection of the TL Dallas stand has been painted. . As a season ticket holder in there, I am consistently aggrieved at the chanting from this side. They beat their drums and sing, but it is always the same 3 or four chants. Furthermore, they are the FIRST to turn on the players for making a mistake and boo the players regularly. In fact, last Friday, I stood up (very brave of me.. or just stupid) and started my own chant towards them, "I'm fickle til I tie..."! . I then got into an argument with a fan that was booing. He simply said "well we aren't playing well so what should I do, applaud?" I responded with, "Yes, you ought to try getting behind the team instead of being the oppositon's 12th man"! He, and his party, left the ground 25 minutes from full-time, still booing. . We all need to be our 12th man, encouraging the players and not be so eager to boo. I doubt that will catch on though...sadly!
You seem to be repeating yourself Waynus71,are you a robot lol I'm quite happy with the level of the support from the TL Dallas stand,you'll always get a few in any part of the ground that boo....keep up the good work fellas and ladies lol...hopefully three points on saturday will get our season rolling .CTID
Do you just go looking for my posts these days, LOL.
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I wasn't talking about "a few", I was talking about the whole of the 'singers/drummers' booing Williams when he played one too many long passes or when Daley lost possession too easily.
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When we are winning, those fans are magnificent, but if we are trailing / playing poorly / making mistakes, they turn on our players faster than a river full of pirhanas. When was the last time they all stood up and did the "Dale Cavese", or sang "When I was just a little boy..."? It is the same three chants over and over and probably is the cause of such a lack of atmosphere. At times last season, it was terrific to be in that stand, now it is just like being in a dentist's waiting room (A bit of noise followed by silence)!

Bingley Chicken says...
3:34pm Fri 3 Sep 10

Waynus71 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Waynus71 wrote: Whilst I agree that the players should be able to operate on the field as professional footballers, I do understand where Taylor is coming from. . A lot of these young lads have never played under so much pressure or in front of such big crowds. They have played most of their games in front of 200-300 fans in the Premier Reserve leagues. Now they find that a mistake will be booed from their own fans. Hardly going to take the pressure off is it? . On another story, PCBA, mentioned the fans in the TL Dallas getting behind the players and more secions of the ground should follow suit. Sadly, their vocal chanting isn't always supportive! Whilst I fully agree that all sides of the ground need to get behind the team, I don't think a fair reflection of the TL Dallas stand has been painted. . As a season ticket holder in there, I am consistently aggrieved at the chanting from this side. They beat their drums and sing, but it is always the same 3 or four chants. Furthermore, they are the FIRST to turn on the players for making a mistake and boo the players regularly. In fact, last Friday, I stood up (very brave of me.. or just stupid) and started my own chant towards them, "I'm fickle til I tie..."! . I then got into an argument with a fan that was booing. He simply said "well we aren't playing well so what should I do, applaud?" I responded with, "Yes, you ought to try getting behind the team instead of being the oppositon's 12th man"! He, and his party, left the ground 25 minutes from full-time, still booing. . We all need to be our 12th man, encouraging the players and not be so eager to boo. I doubt that will catch on though...sadly!
You seem to be repeating yourself Waynus71,are you a robot lol I'm quite happy with the level of the support from the TL Dallas stand,you'll always get a few in any part of the ground that boo....keep up the good work fellas and ladies lol...hopefully three points on saturday will get our season rolling .CTID
Do you just go looking for my posts these days, LOL.
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I wasn't talking about "a few", I was talking about the whole of the 'singers/drummers' booing Williams when he played one too many long passes or when Daley lost possession too easily.
.
When we are winning, those fans are magnificent, but if we are trailing / playing poorly / making mistakes, they turn on our players faster than a river full of pirhanas. When was the last time they all stood up and did the "Dale Cavese", or sang "When I was just a little boy..."? It is the same three chants over and over and probably is the cause of such a lack of atmosphere. At times last season, it was terrific to be in that stand, now it is just like being in a dentist's waiting room (A bit of noise followed by silence)!
Waynus71, I too sit in the 'Bradford End' and feel you're doing the little drummer boy and his disciples a dis service. I recall they came up with a new chant at half time that I haven't heard before of "Taylor, Taylor sort it out, Taylor, sort it out" Not bad going after one and a half league games at home this season and we wonder why players seem to dislike playing at home? Let's get behind them tomorrow and roar them onto victory! CTID.

bcfc1903 says...
3:42pm Fri 3 Sep 10

Waynus71 your posts seem to be the longest most frequent and are now almost word for word repeated on different threads lol,i'll save your blushes by not linking it ,i have the same trouble with albion,i fancy he's got stalker tendancies lol hopefully i'm not going the same way lol...lets hope we get a good performance a good atmosphere and three points tomorrow ...CTID

shaun from richmond says...
4:35pm Fri 3 Sep 10

THE PROBLEM HER IS EXPECTATION!! PURE AND SIMPLE!!
Everyone from Bookies to Supporters to Directors...To dare I say it MANAGER, thought City would breeze through this League, this season!!
ONLY PROBLEM IS.....The players dont believe it!!!
If we thought things got messy under McCall...........Jus
t give this situation another 6 or 7 games!!

audal says...
4:50pm Fri 3 Sep 10

This is an opportune moment to ask all subscribers on this site to(a)read(b)think(c)
digest.Then and only then put into words what they think the problem is with a person's opinon. I make no apology for my observarions regarding certain players indeed if the truth be known 90% of posters on here agree with me. So as you all realise reading correctly"as you do" my son in law and family are visiting next month from New Zealand and i will come out of the closet, WOW! and do the "Blackie Thing" HAKA !!!

balbrigganfc says...
7:34pm Fri 3 Sep 10

City to come away tomorrow with three juicey points, you heard it here first.

StaffsBantam says...
7:49pm Fri 3 Sep 10

gspot wrote:
fatbloke wrote:
Simples pick eleven that are not scared or not lacking in confidence.... . to name a few in my opinion from the back..(Ramsden & Flynn woud be obvious but not fit so hear we go) . Duff Doherty Speight Moult . Lets just revert to 5-a-side and get a team at goals.
LOL....
.
i think we should all wear scary masks on saturday and see how scared they are then - i'm gonna dress up as the scream guy in the costume or maybe freddy krugger - they would shudder in fear, maybe even refuse to come out.
.
i can imagine sky sports news having a good old chuckle about it.
gspot

Brilliant - this may have come a little too late in the week, but it would be absolutely hilarious!

StaffsBantam says...
7:57pm Fri 3 Sep 10

I am hoping to get a ride up to the game tomorrow with some of my local Vale friends, so if you see one of their travelling support not exactly over the moon when Richards scores, it could be me!
I might also be a little quiet if City score.

Up with the partridge says...
8:11pm Fri 3 Sep 10

balbrigganfc wrote:
City to come away tomorrow with three juicey points, you heard it here first.
Doubt it.

Cityman23 says...
8:18pm Fri 3 Sep 10

'Fear Factor'? I am not sure!
What concerns me more is the 'SKILL factor'!!
Against Southend, City were outplayed, and at least three of their players were far superior to ours and dominated the game. It wasn't a fluke result..it was the correct result! Now the City players need to show 'what they've got' in terms of football ability. Are they really (as we're hoping!) good enough to win this match, go on to be better than all but a few teams in this league and, hence achieve promotion?
Finally, skill will 'out' and over the course of a season, the better teams WILL do better. It's still early, but City need to show have they REALLY what it takes? We all want to find the answer to that question is, 'Yes.'

fatbloke says...
11:03pm Fri 3 Sep 10

balbrigganfc wrote:
City to come away tomorrow with three juicey points, you heard it here first.
I predict Taylor to pick a side that will have everyone in the stands talking about who should be playing that isn't.
He will realise he has made a balls of it and make 3 changes at half time that wil leave 3 scared players in the dressing room during the second half.
However it will be to late and Port Vale will win 2-1.
That is my head.
My heart says our season could start tomorrow.

HARRYHILL says...
12:24am Sat 4 Sep 10

Waynus71 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Waynus71 wrote: Whilst I agree that the players should be able to operate on the field as professional footballers, I do understand where Taylor is coming from. . A lot of these young lads have never played under so much pressure or in front of such big crowds. They have played most of their games in front of 200-300 fans in the Premier Reserve leagues. Now they find that a mistake will be booed from their own fans. Hardly going to take the pressure off is it? . On another story, PCBA, mentioned the fans in the TL Dallas getting behind the players and more secions of the ground should follow suit. Sadly, their vocal chanting isn't always supportive! Whilst I fully agree that all sides of the ground need to get behind the team, I don't think a fair reflection of the TL Dallas stand has been painted. . As a season ticket holder in there, I am consistently aggrieved at the chanting from this side. They beat their drums and sing, but it is always the same 3 or four chants. Furthermore, they are the FIRST to turn on the players for making a mistake and boo the players regularly. In fact, last Friday, I stood up (very brave of me.. or just stupid) and started my own chant towards them, "I'm fickle til I tie..."! . I then got into an argument with a fan that was booing. He simply said "well we aren't playing well so what should I do, applaud?" I responded with, "Yes, you ought to try getting behind the team instead of being the oppositon's 12th man"! He, and his party, left the ground 25 minutes from full-time, still booing. . We all need to be our 12th man, encouraging the players and not be so eager to boo. I doubt that will catch on though...sadly!
You seem to be repeating yourself Waynus71,are you a robot lol I'm quite happy with the level of the support from the TL Dallas stand,you'll always get a few in any part of the ground that boo....keep up the good work fellas and ladies lol...hopefully three points on saturday will get our season rolling .CTID
Do you just go looking for my posts these days, LOL. . I wasn't talking about "a few", I was talking about the whole of the 'singers/drummers' booing Williams when he played one too many long passes or when Daley lost possession too easily. . When we are winning, those fans are magnificent, but if we are trailing / playing poorly / making mistakes, they turn on our players faster than a river full of pirhanas. When was the last time they all stood up and did the "Dale Cavese", or sang "When I was just a little boy..."? It is the same three chants over and over and probably is the cause of such a lack of atmosphere. At times last season, it was terrific to be in that stand, now it is just like being in a dentist's waiting room (A bit of noise followed by silence)!
I sit at the side of the drummers in the Bfd End and I can tell you now, if you listen to the drummer...Dazz and 1 or 2 others up there, you will realise that they try getting more than 3 songs going. I noticed at the Southend game they tried to get at least 15 different songs going, but the problem being to many people are not willing to join in. The songs are good and sensible, and don't sing about L@@ds or T@wn, or sing badly of any of our players! Songs such as 'take me home midland rd', 'I am a city fan', are easy to remember and go down well!
As for them booing or giving Willo some stick... If you really paid attention, the fans would realise that the drummers and singers at the very back had a go at the boo boys in the middle of the TL Dallas for booing etc.
Dale Cavese is a song that should only be sung when the players are on a high, otherwise it looks rediculous and badly timed!
'When I was just a little boy song' is good if we were playing L@@ds but it will be a long time before we do that, so why sing about them??? The drummers aren't allowed to play their drums to songs such as these, and have a contract with the club which ties them down to what they can play!
The faces have changed each year in the Bfd End since being re-allocated to city fans, it was great the first season back in there, but because of a small section of wannabe hoolies( which don't reside in the Bfd End anymore), the Bfd End lost some good decent vocal supporters back to the kop.
So come on, stop having a go at the drummers who do their best to create an atmosphere. Everyone help them out and join in the songs and be BCFC's 12th man. Remember they have their hands tied with some of the songs/chants they are allowed to start by the club! I had a chat with the drummers as to why they didn't play as much at the first game of the season, thats when i was shown their contract with the club, and outlines what they can do and can't!
GET OFF THEIR BACKS, PLEASE! JOIN IN WITH THEM!

lonniejockstrap says...
12:38am Sat 4 Sep 10

If anybody out there has played football they will realise confidence plays a massive part in putting in a good performance for your Team. If were playing in front of 10,000 plus of your own supporters and you make a mistake which is then followed by a very significant number of your own supporters moaning, groaning and even shouting abuse at you I think you would have to be a very special individual for it not to affect you negatively. Surely even the most stupid non-sport playing 'supporter' would understand that? I would like to hear about the level of sporting competition any of you regular booers and abusers have played at, and explain to me how any negative criticism or abuse you received from your supporters improved your confidence. A rare bit of booing etc may be understandable. But with City supporters it has practically become the rule rather than the exception. I was feeling nervous myself last Friday, as a supporter, worrying about players making a mistake and the 'fans' over-reacting -yet again- so there is no doubt in my mind that some players will have only a part of their concentration on controlling the ball and another part worrying about making a mistake. Wake up booers, moaners, groaners,abusers, you are making things worse. Players know themselves when they have mis-controlled etc. And so does PT.

HARRYHILL says...
12:41am Sat 4 Sep 10

lonniejockstrap wrote:
If anybody out there has played football they will realise confidence plays a massive part in putting in a good performance for your Team. If were playing in front of 10,000 plus of your own supporters and you make a mistake which is then followed by a very significant number of your own supporters moaning, groaning and even shouting abuse at you I think you would have to be a very special individual for it not to affect you negatively. Surely even the most stupid non-sport playing 'supporter' would understand that? I would like to hear about the level of sporting competition any of you regular booers and abusers have played at, and explain to me how any negative criticism or abuse you received from your supporters improved your confidence. A rare bit of booing etc may be understandable. But with City supporters it has practically become the rule rather than the exception. I was feeling nervous myself last Friday, as a supporter, worrying about players making a mistake and the 'fans' over-reacting -yet again- so there is no doubt in my mind that some players will have only a part of their concentration on controlling the ball and another part worrying about making a mistake. Wake up booers, moaners, groaners,abusers, you are making things worse. Players know themselves when they have mis-controlled etc. And so does PT.
Well said!!!

gspot says...
2:01am Sat 4 Sep 10

StaffsBantam wrote:
gspot wrote:
fatbloke wrote: Simples pick eleven that are not scared or not lacking in confidence.... . to name a few in my opinion from the back..(Ramsden & Flynn woud be obvious but not fit so hear we go) . Duff Doherty Speight Moult . Lets just revert to 5-a-side and get a team at goals.
LOL.... . i think we should all wear scary masks on saturday and see how scared they are then - i'm gonna dress up as the scream guy in the costume or maybe freddy krugger - they would shudder in fear, maybe even refuse to come out. . i can imagine sky sports news having a good old chuckle about it.
gspot Brilliant - this may have come a little too late in the week, but it would be absolutely hilarious!
surely the players would see the funny side and give them a laugh to lift spirits...the club should give out masks or even play the haloween music when they come out of the tunnel.

bcfc1903 says...
10:16am Sat 4 Sep 10

Yeah ,get behind the lads and lighten up a bit,Taylor will get it right..a bit of patience is all that is needed to get the best out of the players,give them that patience and BCFC will collect far more points at VP this season,plus you get a far better enviroment to play and watch a game of football..CTID

balbrigganfc says...
10:44am Sat 4 Sep 10

fatbloke wrote:
balbrigganfc wrote: City to come away tomorrow with three juicey points, you heard it here first.
I predict Taylor to pick a side that will have everyone in the stands talking about who should be playing that isn't. He will realise he has made a balls of it and make 3 changes at half time that wil leave 3 scared players in the dressing room during the second half. However it will be to late and Port Vale will win 2-1. That is my head. My heart says our season could start tomorrow.
Hey Fatbloke, listen to your heart, you know it makes sense, my sensational predictions are always right 80% of the time. In a world that is consistantly inconsistant City have to win today!

lonniejockstrap says...
2:13pm Sat 4 Sep 10

I would like to see Doherty playing further up field in order to be able to make accurate passes to fast and ever moving forwards. Bully has done a great job as the 'protecting' mid-field player so lets leave him there. Two other mid-fielders with energy to get forwards and back will do fine for me eg OB and either Ady or Syers. Speight has got to start up front continuing hopefully from where he left off last Friday. And as much as I rate Hanson I would like to see Evans in along side Speight so Doherty's through balls can utilise his acceleration up front. Same back 4 that finished against Southend with Duff ready to take advantage of a less than effective performance from Williams or Oliver. Any subs coming on should come on playing in their natural position not playing in a 'makeshift' role.

Up with the partridge says...
6:38pm Sat 4 Sep 10

Som much for Taylor's prediction then


Peter Taylor has no sympathy for players who get the jitters playing in front of their home fans Peter Taylor has no sympathy for players who get the jitters playing in front of their home fans

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