CITY 0 SOUTHEND 2 (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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CITY 0 SOUTHEND 2
9:42pm Friday 27th August 2010 in
Awful City slumped to their third league loss of the season against a Southend side celebrating their first away win in 2010.
It was a grim night for the Bantams, who looked a shadow of the team that had matched Preston for so long three days earlier.
They never recovered after slack marking allowed Barry Corr to convert Anthony Grant's pass after 16 minutes.
Peter Taylor used all three substitutes at half-time in a bid to gee them up after the break and Jake Speight at least offered a bit of bite.
But any hopes of a fightback were dashed when they fell further behind nine minutes after the break as Grant drove in from 25 yards.
Southend defender Sean Clohessy was sent off near the end but the ten men did not come under any pressure.
And once again there were a few boos at the final whistle.
Comments(36)
bahamianbantam
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9:47pm Fri 27 Aug 10
Even the great Stuart didn't make three subs at half time - PT does not know what he's doing!
Conference here we come.
thecitygent
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9:49pm Fri 27 Aug 10
tyker
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9:56pm Fri 27 Aug 10
triple substitutions at half time are indicative of what?
players unwilling? players unable? players who don't care?
there are several questions to be addressed about this squad?
can it be turned around? yes there is plenty of time but things have to improve rapidly.
StaffsBantam
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10:01pm Fri 27 Aug 10
4 poor performances.
GD -5.
Terrific stuff City!
Fat-man
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10:19pm Fri 27 Aug 10
bradford city and their players are an
absolute disgrace to this city, even i thought it couldnt get any worse, city are not going to win nothing. we didnt even look like scoring when southend had their player sent off put every single player on the transfer list even peter taylor and his misfit backroom staff. ruind my weekend again password lose-ball hahahahahahahah
parader123
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10:19pm Fri 27 Aug 10
players who have failed to impress the most must be daley and hunt. thoughts?
Windyass
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10:21pm Fri 27 Aug 10
bahamianbantam wrote:The great Stuart left it until 5 minutes before the end of the match to make his 1st sub. At least Taylor can see when it isn't working and does something about it.
Long hard season ahead - forget any idea of promotion - Taylor has just got 20 or so samey mediocre players.
Even the great Stuart didn't make three subs at half time - PT does not know what he's doing!
Conference here we come.
He also admitted that the performance was naff on the radio afterwards and was honest about what was wrong. Stuart was always wishy washy.
Sadly, the players are letting him down.
Time for Daley to jog on.
Topgearman
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10:42pm Fri 27 Aug 10
£60 season tickets to watch a decent sport.
yangy8
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10:44pm Fri 27 Aug 10
put em all on performance wages, that would sort em out.
yangy8
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10:48pm Fri 27 Aug 10
Topgearman wrote:joking yeah? your worse than us ha ha!
Get your backsides up to odsal and forget the vp losers. £60 season tickets to watch a decent sport.
your chairman worse than ours too!
wasn't last week your 1st win in 13?
only just won too!!
robholmes
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10:52pm Fri 27 Aug 10
Fat-man wrote:Put every single player on the transfer list?............
Awful City slumped to their third league loss of the season against a Southend side celebrating their first away win in 2010. bradford city and their players are an absolute disgrace to this city, even i thought it couldnt get any worse, city are not going to win nothing. we didnt even look like scoring when southend had their player sent off put every single player on the transfer list even peter taylor and his misfit backroom staff. ruind my weekend again password lose-ball hahahahahahahah
I disagree with you pal...Doherty had a good game for us tonight and speight played well when he come on too.
o'brien put a good shift in too.
For some reason or other we are just not klicking together but i am still confident that we will get it right very soon. Keep the faith!
pride of yorkshire
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10:52pm Fri 27 Aug 10
lonniejockstrap
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10:53pm Fri 27 Aug 10
Spenvalleyspartan
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10:53pm Fri 27 Aug 10
Fat-man
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11:16pm Fri 27 Aug 10
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/sport1/hi/football
/teams/b/bradford_ci
ty/8951521.stm
City Fan 101
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11:21pm Fri 27 Aug 10
One player who continues to disappoint is Omar Daly, what does he do in training?? he looks clueless and is a drain on the players around him, by the end of tonights match nobody wanted to pass to him.. terrible is it just me or am i missing something???
Cityman23
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11:32pm Fri 27 Aug 10
Then we had the 'desperate' three subs straight after half time which amazingly left the totally ineffectual Omar Daley still on the pitch!! Sadly, Daley seems a shadow of the player he was prior to his bad injury, making me wonder if he'll ever be that player again!! Speight looked busy, Hansen (subbed) again looked nowhere near as good as last season and the defence looked, well..wobbly!! To cap it all, Southend were 'sporting enough' to get one of their players sent off to give us a chance!! But it would have taken another two/three off to make much difference for a City side that looked (worringly) 'all over the place', and 'up the creek without a paddle!' What now Mr T?
harrogatebantam31
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11:35pm Fri 27 Aug 10
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The results may be the same, but the level of effort and performance is much, much worse.
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And IMO it is down to 2 very simple things which Colin To..erm sorry I mean Peter Taylor seems glaringly stubborn to change.
1) Stick to 442. This is what the players know and is what gives a side the best balance. This 433 trying to be too clever is utter tosh and has got us nowhere so far.
2) Keep the players in who performed well in the previous game. How the heck can you expect them to work hard and fight for the shirt when they get dropped after playing well. Not exactly a moral booster
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All this coupled with the most ludicrous tactical decision ever to lump Oliver up front just because they'd had a man sent off makes me wonder if PT does have any idea what he's doing.
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The majority of the players in this squad were either already here, or had been here on loan last season so pre-season should be quite enough to get them looking like they can even recognise which shirt they play in. What exactly have we worked on in training all Summer?!
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Quite simply the most uninspiring drivel I can remember at VP.
The General 80-85
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11:42pm Fri 27 Aug 10
Non-league players can improve with quality players around them ,we dont have any!
Doherty some people thought he played well tonight (was i at a different game) was so poor thought we had resigned Ian Banks.
large squad with no quality or foundation
As i have said before we dont have a 20 goal a season striker we have a bunch of one in four if lucky strikers.
The quicker we can get rid of Del boy lawn and get a bit of Real money into the club the sooner the better or we could be doing a Grimsby and those who think we wont get your heads out of the sand .
macca1969
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12:07am Sat 28 Aug 10
lonniejockstrap
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12:08am Sat 28 Aug 10
The General 80-85 wrote:'get a bit of Real money into the club'. Nice idea, and how do you suggest that is done? Come on don't be shy, let's know how this never-before-thought
Oh god how poor are we i will give you several reasons why .
Non-league players can improve with quality players around them ,we dont have any!
Doherty some people thought he played well tonight (was i at a different game) was so poor thought we had resigned Ian Banks.
large squad with no quality or foundation
As i have said before we dont have a 20 goal a season striker we have a bunch of one in four if lucky strikers.
The quicker we can get rid of Del boy lawn and get a bit of Real money into the club the sooner the better or we could be doing a Grimsby and those who think we wont get your heads out of the sand .
-of benefit will be achieved. Mark Lawn and Julian Rhodes would be more than happy to have some 'Real money' buy out their shares.
skyblogger
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12:13am Sat 28 Aug 10
bad mouthed stuart now bad mouthing peter, unity starts from the top and works its way down.
what a shambles
shaunbcfc
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1:01am Sat 28 Aug 10
gk-jon mac
lb- luke obrien
c-d ,Williams
c-d rehman
R-b ramsdon
l-m teferal(ob)
c-m Syers
C-m (norwich loanee) little drunk can not spell his name lol
R-m Evans, ( not a striker)
ST. moult
ST. speight.
subs bench can be the rest i have left out.......... hansan is just waiting to get sighed by QPR, deal that should have been done at the backend of last year............. 2 home league game and two games that no point would have been the right result
Bradford1903
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1:06am Sat 28 Aug 10
Any advantage that we should get from having a large home support, is quickly evaporated by continuously being slow out of the blocks, allowing the opposition to grow in confidence, in turn silencing the crowd.
If we are going to play 4-4-2 then we need at least another winger. I thought O'B did ok for a full back playing out wide, but he is hardly going to beat a man, while Daley just looked totally disinterested, and isn't worthy of a place on that performance.
I don't think Taylor has helped with his squad rotation. It's debatable whether it actually works in the Premiership, but at this level it is asking far too much. Let's just decide on our best formation and stick to it, thus keeping a settled side.
Disappointing though it was, I'm not overly concerned as there is a long way to go. People were saying similar things at this stage last season, and we went on something like a 12 match unbeaten run.
The players though, seemed burdened by the pressure of expectation and playing in front of a big crowd. The booing doesn't help, as it makes them afraid of wanting the ball, reluctant to try things, and they retreat into a shell. If I were them though, I'd want to prove my doubters wrong, and show them I have the bottle and skill to succeed at this level.
Speight rightly received appreciative applause, as at least he tried to make things happen.
Taylor just has to get the players believing in themselves, and performing like we know they can, as the side put out should have been more than capable of beating the likes of Southend.
BD16
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9:00am Sat 28 Aug 10
Topgearman wrote:£60 if you get 10,000 to pledge and that won't happen.
Get your backsides up to odsal and forget the vp losers. £60 season tickets to watch a decent sport.
It's either a brave or stupid Bulls fan that puts his head above the trenches at the moment. Which are you?
BD16
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9:10am Sat 28 Aug 10
macca1969 wrote:Well said that man. After 4 league games everybody has hit the panic button. Last nights performance was better than the Stevenage game. I know that's not saying much but lets keep a sense of perspective on the situation, it's still August for gods sake.
Before we all panic lets just remember how jewell faired in his first matches. Not any better but we then found a groove and everything fell into place. I'm not saying this will happen but they is a chance. We have to try and remain positive we have played well at times in the cup and once peter finds his best team we will go on a roll. I predict a 4 -0 win next week for city as the fightback and season begins. CTID
One thing that concerns me is the form of Omar. When 90% of his game was based on pace we only have 10% left when he loses that.
Doherty started to look good. Once players learn where to make runs for his passes he will look better still. At the moment he is playing a game above the standard of those around him.
bcfc1903
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11:04am Sat 28 Aug 10
Topgearman wrote:Fella,i wouldn't get up to Odsal if YOU paid me 60 pounds lol
Get your backsides up to odsal and forget the vp losers. £60 season tickets to watch a decent sport.
On last nights shambles imho only Speight and OBrien came out of it with any credit......City Til I Die.
skyblogger
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2:11pm Sat 28 Aug 10
As for selling hanson and putting funds with the neilson funds, will these funds be put into the same place as the colbeck funds? If so, would rather keep the player.
wake up city fans! best paid team in the league nonsense does not wash with those with two or more brain cells.
The problem is not taylor, nor the players. Its the calibre the managers budget will allow. Dont blame a player who can only full fill what he can achieve. If you want a 25 goal a season pro you dont get the local co-op worker.
yangy8
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6:15pm Sat 28 Aug 10
i would ask that everyone boycott the paper for a week to let them know how you feel.
both groups must have been as bad as each other.
i hate this paper.
Waynus71
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11:33am Sun 29 Aug 10
yangy8 wrote:If you hate the paper, boycott it, but dont be asking others to follow you. I agree, in some respects to what that the EDL stand for. But they are just as extreme as some of the muslims they are directing their bile towards. Painting all with the same brush is just wrong. Remind me again, which group were hurling stones at the police yesterday?
i know this is nothing to do with city but i noticed the t&a have been totally biased against the edl in the reports.
i would ask that everyone boycott the paper for a week to let them know how you feel.
both groups must have been as bad as each other.
i hate this paper.
spacewagon
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1:06pm Sun 29 Aug 10
tyker
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6:46pm Sun 29 Aug 10
It's just a thought but rotation system at this level is unwise.
Waynus71
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10:01am Mon 30 Aug 10
tyker wrote:Exactly Tyker. What on earth do some players have to do to get regular games. Until Taylor tries a formation and sticks to XI players, we will get nowhere fast.
the players have no confidence:when Taylor got Wycombe up I believe he did it with a very small squad of players; maybe players who have half decent games are getting dropped whilst others such as Daley are constantly picked.
It's just a thought but rotation system at this level is unwise.
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Against PNE, both Adeyemi and Sayers were very good. Why were they both left out on Friday night? Why did Bully come straight back in? If we are to play Doherty, we have to have legs around him, doing his dirty work. This isn't something that Bully can do consistently - he simply doesn't have the legs. I'm not convinced Flynn will be the answer either. Sayers & Adeyemi have to start if Doherty is playing.
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As for the wings, Evans isn't the answer and Daley is just poor. His only attribute was his pace and now he doesn't even have that. He used to be able to knock the ball yards in front of himself and catch it before the defender got across. Now he can't do that and he knows it, whih basically means he no longer has a game plan. No crosses, no mazy runs, no end product!! Time to be dropped.
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Perhaps Taylor can get in touch with a specialist sprinter coach and try to help Daley get his short burst of pace back????
eebygum
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10:26am Mon 30 Aug 10
bahamianbantam wrote:What utter rubbish the season City went up to the Premier league in their first 4 game they lost and still went up. remember the famous on the pitch half-time team talk by Paul Jewel? The team performed great against Preston so to say were not good enough for this league and none league bound is over reacting after only four games gone. PT can't win if he leaves subs on the bench to the last minute as Stuart did consitently he would get slated as often Stuart did. brings subs on early and gets slated. Stuarts gone get used to it!!! Stuart would agree I'm sure get behind the team it's the managers job to barrack the players not the fans.
Long hard season ahead - forget any idea of promotion - Taylor has just got 20 or so samey mediocre players. Even the great Stuart didn't make three subs at half time - PT does not know what he's doing! Conference here we come.
Apart from the hiding Notts county gave us they had a indifferent season only going top late on.
biggun
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4:32pm Mon 30 Aug 10
Waynus71 wrote:I he can manage to get his pace back he wont need a taxi to get to the airport.
tyker wrote: the players have no confidence:when Taylor got Wycombe up I believe he did it with a very small squad of players; maybe players who have half decent games are getting dropped whilst others such as Daley are constantly picked. It's just a thought but rotation system at this level is unwise.Exactly Tyker. What on earth do some players have to do to get regular games. Until Taylor tries a formation and sticks to XI players, we will get nowhere fast. . Against PNE, both Adeyemi and Sayers were very good. Why were they both left out on Friday night? Why did Bully come straight back in? If we are to play Doherty, we have to have legs around him, doing his dirty work. This isn't something that Bully can do consistently - he simply doesn't have the legs. I'm not convinced Flynn will be the answer either. Sayers & Adeyemi have to start if Doherty is playing. . As for the wings, Evans isn't the answer and Daley is just poor. His only attribute was his pace and now he doesn't even have that. He used to be able to knock the ball yards in front of himself and catch it before the defender got across. Now he can't do that and he knows it, whih basically means he no longer has a game plan. No crosses, no mazy runs, no end product!! Time to be dropped. . Perhaps Taylor can get in touch with a specialist sprinter coach and try to help Daley get his short burst of pace back????
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