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McCall gone but he will never be forgotten


Julian Rhodes was at a wedding and missed Saturday’s game.

But tomorrow morning he will be back at Valley Parade to witness the end of a match he hoped would be made in heaven.

Stuart McCall and City seemed the perfect marriage when Rhodes unveiled his man in May 2007.

With City facing their first season in the bottom tier for a quarter of a century, fortunes were at their lowest ebb.

Step forward a club legend to take the helm; a man with claret and amber in his veins.

The fairy tale would have seen McCall lead City out of the wilderness and back up the divisions. He would have been manager ad infinitum.

Reality, in the gnarled old world of League Two, doesn’t work like that.

McCall discovered that within nine minutes of his first kick-off as Macclesfield gatecrashed the opening-day celebration. Opposing teams did not cower in the Valley Parade limelight – most seemed to bask in it.

So 132 games later it ended with Andy Morrell, a real warrior at this level, breaking City’s resistance in front of the Bradford End.

There was a symmetry about McCall’s final league record. From 119 games, he had won 43 and lost the same. Hardly the stuff of legend.

Yet nobody put in more work or more hours for “their” club than McCall.

He would watch and rewatch match DVDs long into the early hours; sometimes breaking up family get-togethers or nights out to rush back and study them one more time.

Yes, he was very well paid by bottom division standards, even allowing for the pay cut he voluntarily took during last summer’s belt- tightening exercise.

But City certainly got their pound of flesh from a guy who was so desperate to reward the fans for their support. It was more than a job; it was his club and his people – and he felt personally responsible.

McCall would read every letter that landed on his desk and reply to them personally. The only time he got others to help out was because of the sheer weight of mail that arrived in the wake of last season’s U-turn to stay on. That was a decision prompted by the overwhelming public response. His public.

The quit threat at Bournemouth was no empty gesture to attract sympathy and easy headlines. It came from the heart – like everything he did.

McCall was always acutely aware of public opinion. He could relate to all levels of the club from the boardroom to the young lads in the school of excellence.

Unlike several predecessors, he would take a keen interest in every age group and knew many of the players by name. Nothing was beneath him.

But it has been no smooth ride. His relationship with Mark Lawn has become strained to the point where they have barely communicated in months.

Suggestions from above that he should bring in the know-how of an older head in his coaching staff have been rebuffed.

McCall is very much his own man and will leave Valley Parade on his own terms. But he remains a man of the Bradford people and that will never change.

Who else would text the BBC’s Football League show late on a Saturday night to personally thank the fans?

McCall will always care what people think. And that’s why people will always care deeply for McCall.


Your Say YourBradford

Boing-Boing, woodside says...
6:24pm Sun 7 Feb 10

So it did not work out Stuart, never the less from the times i watched you play with Hendrie, sticks and Ellis, Leonard and the rest in the 80's you will always be a legend in this city. Go on and show us you can be great as a manager elsewhere. GOD BLESS YOU STUART!!

cityd, bd6 says...
6:32pm Sun 7 Feb 10

dannbradfc wrote:
due to the recent vacancies at Bradford city here are by their own reckoning how the posts should be filled thus far: Waynus Manager Brownsauceman Assistant Manager the two shaun's Kit-Men (Shaun thesheep on sock duty/, shaun from richmond ironing) Lawnforever Club psychologist and now also promoted to financial manager 2storey public relations manager Lawnforever stated that due to our stable financial position more posts will become available shortly. 2Storey stated that Lawnforever's dual roles as club psychologist/financi al manager would not compromise each other and would be "F**cking ace for the club init". Waynus was thus far not available for comment but rumours abound that he he is 'over the moon' about the acquisition of his new role and that it was "something that he has dreamed about for a very long time" More updates shortly ;)
best post i have read on hear ever, well said,,,pmsl

vglimmer, Bradford says...
6:32pm Sun 7 Feb 10

Good luck Stuart and thanks for the memories.... Still believe you would have got us there in the end.

dannbradfc, Wyke says...
6:36pm Sun 7 Feb 10

due to the recent vacancies at Bradford city here are by their own reckoning how the posts should be filled thus far: Waynus Manager Brownsauceman Assistant Manager the two shaun's Kit-Men (Shaun thesheep on sock duty/, shaun from richmond ironing) Lawnforever Club psychologist and now also promoted to financial manager 2storey public relations manager Lawnforever stated that due to our stable financial position more posts will become available shortly. 2Storey stated that Lawnforever's dual roles as club psychologist/financi al manager would not compromise each other and would be "F*****g ace for the club init". Waynus was thus far not available for comment but rumours abound that he he is 'over the moon' about the acquisition of his new role and that it was "something that he has dreamed about for a very long time" More updates shortly ;)

sorry put more stars in 'cos it got kicked off the other healine, naughty me

2storey, Leeds says...
6:42pm Sun 7 Feb 10

know he wont be forgotton as he is like a rat leaving a sinking ship,and taking anything he can on the way (Ie golden handshake)

dannbradfc, Wyke says...
7:08pm Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey wrote:
know he wont be forgotton as he is like a rat leaving a sinking ship,and taking anything he can on the way (Ie golden handshake)
news:

rumours persist that bcfc's p/r manager may actually be a L**ds supporter. Indeed whilst sorting out his yellow,blue and white socks Shaunthesheep believes he could smell faeces. Although this rumour has yet to be confirmed

mahb70, bradford 10 says...
7:10pm Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey wrote:
know he wont be forgotton as he is like a rat leaving a sinking ship,and taking anything he can on the way (Ie golden handshake)
You are bang out of order,it would appear SM has decided to leave so he probably won't be taking much in the way of a pay-off.To describe him as a rat is beyond belief.Nobody will give more as a BC manager and regardless of his shortcomings as a manager he always had OUR best interests at heart.

2storey, Leeds says...
7:15pm Sun 7 Feb 10

mahb70 wrote:
2storey wrote: know he wont be forgotton as he is like a rat leaving a sinking ship,and taking anything he can on the way (Ie golden handshake)
You are bang out of order,it would appear SM has decided to leave so he probably won't be taking much in the way of a pay-off.To describe him as a rat is beyond belief.Nobody will give more as a BC manager and regardless of his shortcomings as a manager he always had OUR best interests at heart.
he shouldnt be taking anything he knows we have no money, and he is leaving, if you and i resigned do you think our bosses would give us a nice wad (NO)

cityd, bd6 says...
7:26pm Sun 7 Feb 10

2 storey, your a dik

Bredon Bantam, Wrose says...
7:33pm Sun 7 Feb 10

When SM leaves tommorrow as he surely willl, I for one would like to know what/if any resources are available for the new man/men to take this club forward,the fan base is already there, a big decision to make for our joint charman to make hopefully the opportunity is not missed!

Regarding Stuart McCall,using his own words "It just was not to be" however I feel Stuart will be remembered by most right thinking Bradford City fans has what he ACHIEVED with the club & not what he failed to achieve.

Good Luck Stuart and thanks

The General 82-86, gildersome says...
7:53pm Sun 7 Feb 10

Lets hope for the sake of the club that the Fake chairman Lawn parts way as well what a joke he is ,im sure he has a lot to answer for .
Remember Rhodes as put millions in while lawn loaned us the money and has taken it out !!Get real and get out Lawn !!

cityd, bd6 says...
8:00pm Sun 7 Feb 10

whos going to be the next city manager then? looking at the available managers on the league managers association web site there is a couple of good managers out there who might be up for the job, my choice out of them would be martin allen

lonniejockstrap, Bradford says...
8:03pm Sun 7 Feb 10

'It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes short again and again, who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause, who at best knows achievement and who at the worst if he fails at least fails while daring greatly so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat'.

All the best for the future Stuart.

2storey, Leeds says...
8:05pm Sun 7 Feb 10

dannbradfc wrote:
2storey wrote: know he wont be forgotton as he is like a rat leaving a sinking ship,and taking anything he can on the way (Ie golden handshake)
news: rumours persist that bcfc's p/r manager may actually be a L**ds supporter. Indeed whilst sorting out his yellow,blue and white socks Shaunthesheep believes he could smell faeces. Although this rumour has yet to be confirmed
yes wish simon grayson was our manager, proven at elland rd, old players dont make good managers

thecitygent, Shipley says...
8:32pm Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
2storey wrote: know he wont be forgotton as he is like a rat leaving a sinking ship,and taking anything he can on the way (Ie golden handshake)
news: rumours persist that bcfc's p/r manager may actually be a L**ds supporter. Indeed whilst sorting out his yellow,blue and white socks Shaunthesheep believes he could smell faeces. Although this rumour has yet to be confirmed
yes wish simon grayson was our manager, proven at elland rd, old players dont make good managers
So are you and 'lawnforever' the alter egos of 'Mr' Lawn himself? Is it really the case that 'Mr' Lawn has resorted to the T&A message boards to make his feelings known as opposed to the more conventional approach through a formal interview in the T&A. What has it come to? When will we read the 'official' thoughts of the one and only Mark Lawn?

gspot, halifax says...
8:33pm Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey wrote:
know he wont be forgotton as he is like a rat leaving a sinking ship,and taking anything he can on the way (Ie golden handshake)
100% **** end

East_Bowling_Bantam, East Bowling, Bradford says...
8:36pm Sun 7 Feb 10

We will all miss you Stuart...
CTID

dannbradfc, Wyke says...
8:38pm Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
2storey wrote: know he wont be forgotton as he is like a rat leaving a sinking ship,and taking anything he can on the way (Ie golden handshake)
news: rumours persist that bcfc's p/r manager may actually be a L**ds supporter. Indeed whilst sorting out his yellow,blue and white socks Shaunthesheep believes he could smell faeces. Although this rumour has yet to be confirmed
yes wish simon grayson was our manager, proven at elland rd, old players dont make good managers
Newsflash:
It has been confirmed that the conjecture and rumours are true that bcfc's new p/r manager is a belland road fan. Lawnforever stated that his mental capacity was to be assesed at the earliest opportunity. 2storey commented from the upper deck ofthe number 72 bus to l**ds busstation before his credit ran out
"old players don't make good managers init. Thats why me an my mate Lawnforever reckon waynus is the fella for the job see? we owtta copy them lot at Real Madrid wi the kit n that 'cos that way one day we might be as good as them...." Unfortunately the line went dead before any new information could be estalished.
More to follow soon as Bradford Council finally admit that The great big hole in the centre of Bradford that lumbers on into its tenth year may have actually been Stuart McCall's idea in the first place.

swbantam, paignton says...
9:18pm Sun 7 Feb 10

Stuart ...once a legend ...always a legend

All the folk in Torbay wish you well

The memories will last forever!

fatbloke, eccleshill says...
9:58pm Sun 7 Feb 10

All this is doing my head in.
I think the best thing is a for a triple statement to come out from McCall, Rhodes and Lawn.
It is only my opinon but I really think there is something not right with the relationship between our charimen.
I predict far far worse things to happen moving forward.
Hope I am wrong.

BillyxBantams, Bradford says...
11:36pm Sun 7 Feb 10

Some of the comments on this website are so absurd and ridiculous it makes me embarassed to be a City fan! To suggest he is leaving a sinking ship, bankrupting the club, etc is nothing short of a disgrace and any fan which suggests this should hang their head in shame, and never visit Valley Parade again!
If I was SMc i would take every penny i could get out of BCFC, the club and a section of its fans have treated him with such a complete lack of respect, and convinced him that it is time to leave. I'm sure when the new manager comes in (with no money) and we still struggle these muppets will continue to blame McCall.
Can i get a refund on my season ticket for next year? I dont want to be associated with a club who treats its manager like this, nor with fans who are so fickle and dense.

the city realist, bowness on windermere says...
12:07am Mon 8 Feb 10

listen you donuts mcall a legend as a player but as a manager it never happened but he made the promises ie ill take you up ill quit if i dont etc but so many games when we were poor he constantly stuck up for the players but how many players came out and stuck up for him just because i was not totally behind him at the end i still support the club i begrudge spending money to watch us lay down and die due to enept tactics and no bottle 25 years ago teams were scared to come to vp now they come and help themselves for all mcalls dreams time for someone to come in hard if your not willing to sweat blood and tears off you go lets get real were div 4 just hope we get mr wright for me maybe jacko but one thing iwill say mcall could have stayed and took his money but fair play hes going now and he hopes we do well thanks for your effort stuart still a legend ctid

dannbradfc, Wyke says...
12:34am Mon 8 Feb 10

fatbloke wrote:
All this is doing my head in. I think the best thing is a for a triple statement to come out from McCall, Rhodes and Lawn. It is only my opinon but I really think there is something not right with the relationship between our charimen. I predict far far worse things to happen moving forward. Hope I am wrong.
i actually mentioned this point months ago and no-one on here really picked up on it (two gold stars for me). Messing aside it would appear from the article above that what i suggested was true afterall. This potentialy could spell disater for the club.

Also THE timing of the disruption, non-communication would appear to coincide with 1. the Eastward situation. 2. Our poor run of form AFTER 10 games without defeat.
Maybe only coincidence but who really knows what has been going on back-stage, so to speak. Rhodes is defo a McCall man and Lawn it would appear is not. We can only hope that Rhodes and Lawn are on talking terms or this could get very messy and spell disater for the club. whilst i have voiced my concerns over Lawn and his ability to really progress the club, i also acknowledge his help in stabilising the club but if he is a fan he needs to get in real investors with financial clout and/or vision and step aside otherwise we are going to be like this for some time yet and maybe god forbid even worse. What we do not want is Lawn to asset strip or pull out completely leaving Rhodes and city in financial disaster.
For me this is another case of chairman interfering where they are not needed/required.

dannbradfc, Wyke says...
12:39am Mon 8 Feb 10

BillyxBantams wrote:
Some of the comments on this website are so absurd and ridiculous it makes me embarassed to be a City fan! To suggest he is leaving a sinking ship, bankrupting the club, etc is nothing short of a disgrace and any fan which suggests this should hang their head in shame, and never visit Valley Parade again! If I was SMc i would take every penny i could get out of BCFC, the club and a section of its fans have treated him with such a complete lack of respect, and convinced him that it is time to leave. I'm sure when the new manager comes in (with no money) and we still struggle these muppets will continue to blame McCall. Can i get a refund on my season ticket for next year? I dont want to be associated with a club who treats its manager like this, nor with fans who are so fickle and dense.
Most of those comments are been made by non-city fans, imposters and supporters of other teams. Some just for a wind-up. Trust me they have hardly or some cases never been on this site before. Don't take anything at the mo as representing city fans 'cos in the main they are not. You can tell them 'cos they have nothing to back up what they say, can't comment on games because they don't go etc. They'll go away eventually trust me

spionkop64, Little Germany says...
6:42am Mon 8 Feb 10

Farewell Stuart. To leave in such a dignified manner speaks volunmes of your love for this club. We maybe stuck in the bottom division of English football, but on Saturday there was none of the usual cat calls and abuse. You applauded us and we returned it with the affection you deserve. You did your best, we did our best for you, sadly it wasn't enough. As an individual, and we as fans, can stand proud this morning. We threw our hearts and souls into the endeavour, it didn't work out and we parted the best of friends and with our love and respect intact. Farewell Stuart, you will always be welcome at Valley Parade.

spleen ventor, Bradford says...
8:21am Mon 8 Feb 10

BillyxBantams wrote:
Some of the comments on this website are so absurd and ridiculous it makes me embarassed to be a City fan! To suggest he is leaving a sinking ship, bankrupting the club, etc is nothing short of a disgrace and any fan which suggests this should hang their head in shame, and never visit Valley Parade again! If I was SMc i would take every penny i could get out of BCFC, the club and a section of its fans have treated him with such a complete lack of respect, and convinced him that it is time to leave. I'm sure when the new manager comes in (with no money) and we still struggle these muppets will continue to blame McCall. Can i get a refund on my season ticket for next year? I dont want to be associated with a club who treats its manager like this, nor with fans who are so fickle and dense.
Good riddance...you BillyxBantam (not Stuart), your obviously not a true fan or you'd be supporting the club whoever is in charge, wanting a refund on your season ticket?...I ask you.... No one person, not even Stuart McCall is bigger than the club.

macca1969, settle says...
9:07am Mon 8 Feb 10

spionkop64 wrote:
Farewell Stuart. To leave in such a dignified manner speaks volunmes of your love for this club. We maybe stuck in the bottom division of English football, but on Saturday there was none of the usual cat calls and abuse. You applauded us and we returned it with the affection you deserve. You did your best, we did our best for you, sadly it wasn't enough. As an individual, and we as fans, can stand proud this morning. We threw our hearts and souls into the endeavour, it didn't work out and we parted the best of friends and with our love and respect intact. Farewell Stuart, you will always be welcome at Valley Parade.
Here here well said its a shame it didn't work out but some dreams never do bt we keep dreaming. Onwards and upwards ctid

nowt fresh, Bradford says...
10:20am Mon 8 Feb 10

2storey wrote:
know he wont be forgotton as he is like a rat leaving a sinking ship,and taking anything he can on the way (Ie golden handshake)
Your so FULL OF YOURSELF 2 storey "I know everything" if you are so sure of what your saying PLEASE LOG ON WITH YOUR REAL NAME, are you Mark Lawn, Dave Baldwin, you must be well informed or do you just THINK you are.

skyblogger, bradford says...
10:24am Mon 8 Feb 10

nowt fresh wrote:
2storey wrote:
know he wont be forgotton as he is like a rat leaving a sinking ship,and taking anything he can on the way (Ie golden handshake)
Your so FULL OF YOURSELF 2 storey "I know everything" if you are so sure of what your saying PLEASE LOG ON WITH YOUR REAL NAME, are you Mark Lawn, Dave Baldwin, you must be well informed or do you just THINK you are.
my money is on mark but it could be lawns side kick. Either one or the other as both are twiddling their thumbs right now as Stuart finalises things with Julian.

nowt fresh, Bradford says...
10:32am Mon 8 Feb 10

BillyxBantams wrote:
Some of the comments on this website are so absurd and ridiculous it makes me embarassed to be a City fan! To suggest he is leaving a sinking ship, bankrupting the club, etc is nothing short of a disgrace and any fan which suggests this should hang their head in shame, and never visit Valley Parade again! If I was SMc i would take every penny i could get out of BCFC, the club and a section of its fans have treated him with such a complete lack of respect, and convinced him that it is time to leave. I'm sure when the new manager comes in (with no money) and we still struggle these muppets will continue to blame McCall. Can i get a refund on my season ticket for next year? I dont want to be associated with a club who treats its manager like this, nor with fans who are so fickle and dense.
Absurd and ridiculous comments so of yours are pretty outrageous"If I was SMc i would take every penny i could get out of BCFC", "Can i get a refund on my season ticket for next year? I dont want to be associated with a club who treats its manager like this, nor with fans who are so fickle and dense"so your not FICKLE wanting a refund on your season ticket, pot and kettle come to mind.

Waynus71, BD6 says...
9:24pm Mon 8 Feb 10

dannbradfc wrote:
due to the recent vacancies at Bradford city here are by their own reckoning how the posts should be filled thus far: Waynus Manager Brownsauceman Assistant Manager the two shaun's Kit-Men (Shaun thesheep on sock duty/, shaun from richmond ironing) Lawnforever Club psychologist and now also promoted to financial manager 2storey public relations manager Lawnforever stated that due to our stable financial position more posts will become available shortly. 2Storey stated that Lawnforever's dual roles as club psychologist/financi al manager would not compromise each other and would be "F*****g ace for the club init". Waynus was thus far not available for comment but rumours abound that he he is 'over the moon' about the acquisition of his new role and that it was "something that he has dreamed about for a very long time" More updates shortly ;)

sorry put more stars in 'cos it got kicked off the other healine, naughty me
Sorry mate, but I declined their offer. I feel I have loads to offer, but as some of the more 'knowledgeable' erm.. have pointed out, Lawn is a control freak and I couldn't work under those conditions.

I did put YOUR name forward though, as you always claim to know more than the average fan, i.e. Bully plays too far forward, Boulding not good enough, Daley missed despite end product being garbage, Lee at fault last season and not Clarke etc etc.

I have stayed away for the past couple of weeks, yet when I do, I am greeted with s##te like this!

Waynus71, BD6 says...
9:36pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Stuart McCall is NOT a legend. You may ask why I say that, as he is someone I admire greatly. The word legend means, "a person whose fame or notoriety makes him a source of exaggerated or romanticized tales or exploits". Personally, I don't think his tales need any exaggeration!

Stuart McCall is a honest, hard-working bloke with the utmost integrity. I may have knocked his ability as a manager/coach (which by resigning, he is now admitting), but I have never knocked Stuart McCall the man.

I will always respect the fact that he put his all into the job, worked as hard as he could and when he realised he couldn't deliver, he was man enough to stand down.

What most people will remember him for is his ability as a footballer, notably at City. we will all remember how happy he was when we won promotion to the Premiership, the infamous falling off the car roof etc. However, the real supporters will remember him for something much more important than that. That is, the way he has handled himself over the tragic events of 1985. He never stopped caring about those that perished or the ones they left behind. It will always stay with him and as such, we will always have a special bond.

I would like to think that McCall will go away, continue to learn more coaching methods and manage reserve sides/youth teams/non-league teams and one day, return to complete unfinished business.

dannbradfc, Wyke says...
10:14pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Waynus71 wrote:
Stuart McCall is NOT a legend. You may ask why I say that, as he is someone I admire greatly. The word legend means, "a person whose fame or notoriety makes him a source of exaggerated or romanticized tales or exploits". Personally, I don't think his tales need any exaggeration! Stuart McCall is a honest, hard-working bloke with the utmost integrity. I may have knocked his ability as a manager/coach (which by resigning, he is now admitting), but I have never knocked Stuart McCall the man. I will always respect the fact that he put his all into the job, worked as hard as he could and when he realised he couldn't deliver, he was man enough to stand down. What most people will remember him for is his ability as a footballer, notably at City. we will all remember how happy he was when we won promotion to the Premiership, the infamous falling off the car roof etc. However, the real supporters will remember him for something much more important than that. That is, the way he has handled himself over the tragic events of 1985. He never stopped caring about those that perished or the ones they left behind. It will always stay with him and as such, we will always have a special bond. I would like to think that McCall will go away, continue to learn more coaching methods and manage reserve sides/youth teams/non-league teams and one day, return to complete unfinished business.
Why would he want to come back to hear the stuff you have chucked in his direction? Or have you decided this week that he is a good manager after-all. You have got what you have wanted for the past two seasons. You should be out partying. Don't attempt to come all caring and sympathetic after you have abused the man, YES ABUSED, THE MANAGER OF OUR FOOTBALL CLUB and constantly criticised his tenure at city. Party on until your next victim

Waynus71, BD6 says...
10:36pm Mon 8 Feb 10

dannbradfc wrote:
Waynus71 wrote:
Stuart McCall is NOT a legend. You may ask why I say that, as he is someone I admire greatly. The word legend means, "a person whose fame or notoriety makes him a source of exaggerated or romanticized tales or exploits". Personally, I don't think his tales need any exaggeration! Stuart McCall is a honest, hard-working bloke with the utmost integrity. I may have knocked his ability as a manager/coach (which by resigning, he is now admitting), but I have never knocked Stuart McCall the man. I will always respect the fact that he put his all into the job, worked as hard as he could and when he realised he couldn't deliver, he was man enough to stand down. What most people will remember him for is his ability as a footballer, notably at City. we will all remember how happy he was when we won promotion to the Premiership, the infamous falling off the car roof etc. However, the real supporters will remember him for something much more important than that. That is, the way he has handled himself over the tragic events of 1985. He never stopped caring about those that perished or the ones they left behind. It will always stay with him and as such, we will always have a special bond. I would like to think that McCall will go away, continue to learn more coaching methods and manage reserve sides/youth teams/non-league teams and one day, return to complete unfinished business.
Why would he want to come back to hear the stuff you have chucked in his direction? Or have you decided this week that he is a good manager after-all. You have got what you have wanted for the past two seasons. You should be out partying. Don't attempt to come all caring and sympathetic after you have abused the man, YES ABUSED, THE MANAGER OF OUR FOOTBALL CLUB and constantly criticised his tenure at city. Party on until your next victim
Don't be so naive Dann. We have ALL picked faults in McCall over his tenure. You were constantly pointing out his faiklings, such as Lee being too slow and going to ground, O'Brien being poorer than the hype, Bully not being played in his best position etc etc.

I have always respected what McCall has done for us and you can ask macca69 for confirmation of that.

Yes, I have wanted him out since last February, as I didn't see anything to suggest he could manage. That doesn't mean i don't care or wish it had worked out better. I watched Stuart McCall play since he was a lad starting out. I was sad the day he left for Everton, but fully understand why he left. I followed his career to Rangers and I am still a fan of Rangers to this day, simply because of Stu.

When he returned to City for his second spell, I was delighted. I was even more happy for him that he managed to have his dream of playing for City in thge top-flight. When it turned sour a second time (Richmond), it was tragic to see Stuart leave the club again.

I always wanted McCall to return to manage our club one day, but, personally, I just didn't think it was the right time to do it. He continued to make mistakes all the way through his managerial career and in his final game, this was summed up.

For me, McCall panicked and as a result, lost focus on his team. When Rafa was under pressure at Pool, he didn't make mass changes. he kept the balance of his team and didn't make many changes. When Stuart was faced with the same adversaries, he addressed them by playing players out of position.

That doesn't mean I have no respect for him and I am sorry if that dampens your vendetta towards me.

dannbradfc, Wyke says...
1:09pm Tue 9 Feb 10

just a quick point hoe are Lee's failings as a player Owt to to do with McCall's managerial skills? Yes he bought him but so have many others and he can't help it if Lee decides to go to ground all the time. Secopndly where have i ever said that O'B is over-hyped????? Don't attempt to put words in my mouth.

Picking out individual players failings is NOT attacking McCall although possibly you have some Mandelson-type swing to put on it. You are been naive and becoming confused going by that.

i do think Bully is not operating where he should be but think that that is more the player himself believeing he can score goals. overall i don't mind saying that Bully is not the best nor is he the future of Bradford city. Just a question do you still think Boulding is our best player??

Waynus71, BD6 says...
3:47pm Tue 9 Feb 10

You say you are not attacking McCall but then claim that Bully was operating where HE believed he should play, NOT where McCall believed he should be playing. Are you saying that is good man-management to allow a member of your squad to do as he pleases?

As for Lee, I can't recall McCall ever saying that he wishes Lee would not go to ground so easily. In fact, when watching goals on Saturday nights, I rarely see County concede because of Lee going to ground.

You say criticism of individual players is not attacking McCall. I say attacking McCall's managerial credentials is not attacking McCall either. Some people cannot manage and unfortunately McCall was one of them.

I still believe Boulding to be our most natural goalscorer. Do we have a 'best player'?

dannbradfc, Wyke says...
12:18am Thu 11 Feb 10

Waynus71 wrote:
You say you are not attacking McCall but then claim that Bully was operating where HE believed he should play, NOT where McCall believed he should be playing. Are you saying that is good man-management to allow a member of your squad to do as he pleases? As for Lee, I can't recall McCall ever saying that he wishes Lee would not go to ground so easily. In fact, when watching goals on Saturday nights, I rarely see County concede because of Lee going to ground. You say criticism of individual players is not attacking McCall. I say attacking McCall's managerial credentials is not attacking McCall either. Some people cannot manage and unfortunately McCall was one of them. I still believe Boulding to be our most natural goalscorer. Do we have a 'best player'?
You are NOT answering a question which you yourself instigated. Instead you attempt to use 'quotes' from other peoples posts to create support for your own argument. In doing so you often forget the original point. How is pointing out areas of omprovement needed or the faults of players an attack on their manager. Its not is it. there is no debate there apart from if the player is playing out of position or other such circumstances.

neither of us can claim to know Mc all the 'man' but you HAVE attacked him consistently over many aspects of his tenure over the past two seasons whilst blaming him for things out of his control at times. ALL FANS criticise some players and pick out their faults thats football. At times your 'hunt' for McCall's head appeared just for the sake of it. anyway i cannot understand why you still sound so angry at everyone's posts at the moment. You could be forgiven for feeling justified in some way. Surely you have got what you have been after for a long while now??

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Stuart McCall tells a Bury player to get on with it as time runs out for City, and ultimately for McCall on his last appearance as City manager Stuart McCall tells a Bury player to get on with it as time runs out for City, and ultimately for McCall on his last appearance as City manager

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