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5:54pm Saturday 6th February 2010 in
Stuart McCall's 133-game reign as City boss is over.
McCall will officially step down on Monday when he meets joint-chairman Julian Rhodes.
But the Bantams legend has made it clear that his mind is made up.
Speaking after today's 1-0 home loss to Bury, McCall said: "It's time for somebody else to come in and take up the reins and hopefully do well.
"I've been very fortunate as a player to have had two great spells here. I've been very fortunate to have the career I've had.
"I've been honoured to be here and the support I've had from everyone has been fantastic.
"Today would have been a defining line in the season for me. If we had beaten Bury, the dream of making seventh place would have been on.
"The form has been okay, the results haven't been good enough. It's just not meant to be.
"It's really hard because I came with hopes and aspirations of fulfilling a lot of people's dreams."
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albion
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6:01pm Sat 6 Feb 10
glasgow_bantam madCTID
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Halifax Bantam
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Pablo
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wja1966
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djmoulson
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thecitygent
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mrshower
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The General 82-86
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macca1969
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7:20pm Sat 6 Feb 10
thecitygent wrote:Personally i think that says it all. Its a shame he can't go and do one as well, when things seemed yo be on an upward curve you couldn't get rid of him and his silly grin but as soon as things got tough the money and support dried up and he stuck Stuart in the firing line to take the flak
Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?
Pablo
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7:24pm Sat 6 Feb 10
webess
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7:26pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey
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7:30pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Pablo wrote:why would he go, he as given mccall a budget bigger than anyone in league 2 last year and still couldnt do anything with it, CTID, get a life
Has Lawn gone as well, then?
2storey
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7:33pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Pablo wrote:he was offered help by the board and wouldnt take it, as mcall as a head bigger than the sunwin stand and thought he could do it alone, how wrong was he
Stuart's problem was his inexperienced back -up staff. Someone like Terry Dolan should have worked with him. What's Paul Jewell doing these days?
yorkiewyke
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7:33pm Sat 6 Feb 10
phil66
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macca1969
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7:54pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey wrote:You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS,
The General 82-86 wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management
kazza4city
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7:58pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever
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7:59pm Sat 6 Feb 10
thecitygent wrote:I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID
Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?
2storey
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8:01pm Sat 6 Feb 10
macca1969 wrote:mccall wont be going empty handed believe me, he will be getting some kind of payout, just so he can squeeze every bit of monery he can get out of city
thecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?Personally i think that says it all. Its a shame he can't go and do one as well, when things seemed yo be on an upward curve you couldn't get rid of him and his silly grin but as soon as things got tough the money and support dried up and he stuck Stuart in the firing line to take the flak
macca1969
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8:11pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey wrote:You talk garbage he will and only ever has had the best interests of City at heart. If he does take money it will probably be some of his money that he himself put into the club you ignorant moran. If he was squeeze every bit of money out of the club why did he take a pay cut which he himself offered not the board.
macca1969 wrote:mccall wont be going empty handed believe me, he will be getting some kind of payout, just so he can squeeze every bit of monery he can get out of citythecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?Personally i think that says it all. Its a shame he can't go and do one as well, when things seemed yo be on an upward curve you couldn't get rid of him and his silly grin but as soon as things got tough the money and support dried up and he stuck Stuart in the firing line to take the flak
thecitygent
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8:12pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:Are you 'Mr' Lawn in disguise or just high on the wakky baccy?
thecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID
Jonbantam
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8:12pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever
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8:16pm Sat 6 Feb 10
macca1969 wrote:i agree with i person that your talking aload of rubbish to if you so intrested in figures where you getting yours from fact or your own emagination. its a known fact that mccall has had the best of everything in league 2 stadium,fans and board over his 3 year shot at managing us which should have ended last year like mccall said he would but didnt. i did like Mccall as a player but NOT as a manager
2storey wrote:You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS, HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiotThe General 82-86 wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management
macca1969
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8:17pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey wrote:And you believe everything he tells you do you muppet. Remember it was him exactly 12 months ago that gave mccall a new contract and then panicked after the Bournemouth match to try and talk mccall out of it. Mark Lawn is no better than a politician time will tell and time will show. I,ve seen it all before and yes i call myself a fan one who could hardly speak as i was hoarse after shouting for and supporting my team today, my team that outplayed second in the table for the second time in 2 weeks. The only thing missing for city was luck
macca1969 wrote:being a true city fan i picked the phone up and spoke to lawn to air my issues, and he was more than happy to speak to me, try and do that yourself moran, if you call yourself a fan2storey wrote:You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS, HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiotThe General 82-86 wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management
2storey
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8:19pm Sat 6 Feb 10
macca1969 wrote:mccall put money into the club, get a life, and the reason he took a paycut is he was on the highest wage in league 2 and knew he wouldnt get any better anywhere else, were do you think he is going now Rangers youth team
2storey wrote:You talk garbage he will and only ever has had the best interests of City at heart. If he does take money it will probably be some of his money that he himself put into the club you ignorant moran. If he was squeeze every bit of money out of the club why did he take a pay cut which he himself offered not the board.macca1969 wrote:mccall wont be going empty handed believe me, he will be getting some kind of payout, just so he can squeeze every bit of monery he can get out of citythecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?Personally i think that says it all. Its a shame he can't go and do one as well, when things seemed yo be on an upward curve you couldn't get rid of him and his silly grin but as soon as things got tough the money and support dried up and he stuck Stuart in the firing line to take the flak
Lawn for ever
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8:19pm Sat 6 Feb 10
kazza4city wrote:good look with that one he dosnt know how to use a computer "sorry"
Dear Stuart, Thanks for trying your hardest. You will always be a legend as a player at Valley Parade but as a manager you have just not had that little bit of luck which you need to be successful. All the best for the future. Up the Bantams.
macca1969
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8:23pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:Where do i quote figures i believe i said i'd guess that only a small amount separtes 10 clubs. As for Bury work it out youself 4000 paying nearly 20 quid against 11000 thousand 100 pound a year seats. Our stadium is rented at the highest cost to any club outside the premier league. As for Bishop when he signed last seaon on a new deal the details were released in the press with a local buissness man claiming to helping the club by paying his wages. CHECK IT OUT
macca1969 wrote:i agree with i person that your talking aload of rubbish to if you so intrested in figures where you getting yours from fact or your own emagination. its a known fact that mccall has had the best of everything in league 2 stadium,fans and board over his 3 year shot at managing us which should have ended last year like mccall said he would but didnt. i did like Mccall as a player but NOT as a manager2storey wrote:You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS, HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiotThe General 82-86 wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management
matthewbcfcwilkinson
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8:26pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever
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8:27pm Sat 6 Feb 10
thecitygent wrote:i wish i was half the man he is he`s one of the best things that happend to this club which is more that i can say about mccall becoming manager CTID
Lawn for ever wrote:Are you 'Mr' Lawn in disguise or just high on the wakky baccy?thecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID
2storey
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8:28pm Sat 6 Feb 10
macca1969 wrote:yes but this is the 3rd season with no luck, i agree mccall wa a good player but in your heart you know he is no manager, he is getting the players and then he cannt manage them, i.e look at barry conlon, o'grady, just to mention 2
2storey wrote:And you believe everything he tells you do you muppet. Remember it was him exactly 12 months ago that gave mccall a new contract and then panicked after the Bournemouth match to try and talk mccall out of it. Mark Lawn is no better than a politician time will tell and time will show. I,ve seen it all before and yes i call myself a fan one who could hardly speak as i was hoarse after shouting for and supporting my team today, my team that outplayed second in the table for the second time in 2 weeks. The only thing missing for city was luckmacca1969 wrote:being a true city fan i picked the phone up and spoke to lawn to air my issues, and he was more than happy to speak to me, try and do that yourself moran, if you call yourself a fan2storey wrote:You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS, HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiotThe General 82-86 wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management
macca1969
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8:29pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey wrote:Well if he has no money tied up in the club and i admit this was only a rumour that some were putting around as a reason why he hadn't be sacked then i would expect Stuart to walk away and take nothing. Saying this you don't know that he would so why disrespect the guy you are clearly ignorant of the mans meaning to this club and its fans. I don't know what he will do now but where ever he goes i hope he is a success and doesn't have to be abused by idiots like you. GROW UP YOU PRAT
macca1969 wrote:mccall put money into the club, get a life, and the reason he took a paycut is he was on the highest wage in league 2 and knew he wouldnt get any better anywhere else, were do you think he is going now Rangers youth team2storey wrote:You talk garbage he will and only ever has had the best interests of City at heart. If he does take money it will probably be some of his money that he himself put into the club you ignorant moran. If he was squeeze every bit of money out of the club why did he take a pay cut which he himself offered not the board.macca1969 wrote:mccall wont be going empty handed believe me, he will be getting some kind of payout, just so he can squeeze every bit of monery he can get out of citythecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?Personally i think that says it all. Its a shame he can't go and do one as well, when things seemed yo be on an upward curve you couldn't get rid of him and his silly grin but as soon as things got tough the money and support dried up and he stuck Stuart in the firing line to take the flak
shaun from richmond
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8:31pm Sat 6 Feb 10
gspot
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8:33pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever
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8:33pm Sat 6 Feb 10
macca1969
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8:38pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey wrote:I have made my feelings know on McCall and i won't change them ask waynus. All i will say is that we won't attract a top manager and i'll wager now that within 2 years we will have fans shouting for the new mans head. All is not black and white at valley parade and it is still unravelling. McCall made plenty of mistakes and i was accused of wearing rose tinted specs in my defence of him but i say to you at there that those who think the only problem at valley parade is the manager are the one wearing rose tinted specs. You have all got what you want so why diss the man at least try and respect him for the fact he tried and in your opinions quit when he should. Remember Lawn lovers Lawn also begged him to stay and asked the fans to sway him so lets not abuse a legend lets respect the man at least
macca1969 wrote:yes but this is the 3rd season with no luck, i agree mccall wa a good player but in your heart you know he is no manager, he is getting the players and then he cannt manage them, i.e look at barry conlon, o'grady, just to mention 22storey wrote:And you believe everything he tells you do you muppet. Remember it was him exactly 12 months ago that gave mccall a new contract and then panicked after the Bournemouth match to try and talk mccall out of it. Mark Lawn is no better than a politician time will tell and time will show. I,ve seen it all before and yes i call myself a fan one who could hardly speak as i was hoarse after shouting for and supporting my team today, my team that outplayed second in the table for the second time in 2 weeks. The only thing missing for city was luckmacca1969 wrote:being a true city fan i picked the phone up and spoke to lawn to air my issues, and he was more than happy to speak to me, try and do that yourself moran, if you call yourself a fan2storey wrote:You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS, HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiotThe General 82-86 wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management
Lawn for ever
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8:38pm Sat 6 Feb 10
shaun from richmond wrote:Well said there is somone with some sens after all
McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!!
2storey
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8:40pm Sat 6 Feb 10
gspot wrote:jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...
thecitygent
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8:45pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:Well if his weight loss plan goes to plan why don't you share his trousers and be part of the success story?
thecitygent wrote:i wish i was half the man he is he`s one of the best things that happend to this club which is more that i can say about mccall becoming manager CTIDLawn for ever wrote:Are you 'Mr' Lawn in disguise or just high on the wakky baccy?thecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID
shaun from richmond
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8:47pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey wrote:I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!!
gspot wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
macca1969
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8:48pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:What? Are you for real, who said anything about hating him, i know he invested in the club or should i say loaned money to the club,(wonder what the interest rate is) what i'm saying is that i don't believe a word he says he is like gordon brown and david cameron all promising everything and delivering what? You blame Stu so answer why was it Lawn gave him another 2 year deal when we had achieved nothing,why did he talk Stuart out of quitting by asking the fans to more or less beg him to stay? Stuart is hung out to dry for his mistakes why can't Lawn take any criticism. Cuts both ways in my eyes he made the decision to employ him offer another contract beg him to stay mouth off about back to back promotions but in your eyes can do no wrong. WHATEVER
ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTID
bantambelle
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8:51pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever
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8:51pm Sat 6 Feb 10
thecitygent wrote:at least theres guna be one now mcalls gone but i take it your a mccall fan so you will be surporting the team he`s going to if enyone is stupid enough to take him
Lawn for ever wrote:Well if his weight loss plan goes to plan why don't you share his trousers and be part of the success story?thecitygent wrote:i wish i was half the man he is he`s one of the best things that happend to this club which is more that i can say about mccall becoming manager CTIDLawn for ever wrote:Are you 'Mr' Lawn in disguise or just high on the wakky baccy?thecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID
gspot
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8:53pm Sat 6 Feb 10
macca1969
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8:54pm Sat 6 Feb 10
shaun from richmond wrote:I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words
2storey wrote:I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!!gspot wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
2storey
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8:57pm Sat 6 Feb 10
macca1969 wrote:pick the phone and speak to lawn he isnt taking anything out of the club, if you were a fan you would know there is no money to take out
Lawn for ever wrote: ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTIDWhat? Are you for real, who said anything about hating him, i know he invested in the club or should i say loaned money to the club,(wonder what the interest rate is) what i'm saying is that i don't believe a word he says he is like gordon brown and david cameron all promising everything and delivering what? You blame Stu so answer why was it Lawn gave him another 2 year deal when we had achieved nothing,why did he talk Stuart out of quitting by asking the fans to more or less beg him to stay? Stuart is hung out to dry for his mistakes why can't Lawn take any criticism. Cuts both ways in my eyes he made the decision to employ him offer another contract beg him to stay mouth off about back to back promotions but in your eyes can do no wrong. WHATEVER
hew jardon
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9:00pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey
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9:01pm Sat 6 Feb 10
macca1969 wrote:i know jewell very well and he has told me that he wont go back into football he doesnt need the stress and is happy living part-time in celebration, and it is nothing to do with the money as he doesnt need it now
shaun from richmond wrote:I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words2storey wrote:I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!!gspot wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
Lawn for ever
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9:05pm Sat 6 Feb 10
djmoulson wrote:somone that surports mccall and not bradford city like most of the people on hear aka macca and citygent
What is a 'moran'....!?!
2storey
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9:07pm Sat 6 Feb 10
gspot wrote:ok mr kay who is your choice
obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.
mahb70
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9:09pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever
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9:10pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:let me put gspot on that list too
djmoulson wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?!somone that surports mccall and not bradford city like most of the people on hear aka macca and citygent
2storey
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9:11pm Sat 6 Feb 10
mahb70 wrote:there is alot of managers out of work, sinnott, jacko,just 2 that spring to mind
It's a very sad day , with ironically our most convincing performance for weeks.Our players can't score and any slight mistake at the back seems to get punished.Today's failings are not down to Stuart and on those fine margins todays sad decision has been reached.The next manager is going to have to be blessed with a huge amount of good fortune cos he's still got a moderate budget and will have less tolerence from our impatient fans. DW til end of season is an option if we don't want to break somebody's contract .
shaun from richmond
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9:12pm Sat 6 Feb 10
macca1969 wrote:-joinWELL LETS SAY......A SPORTSMANS BET!!
shaun from richmond wrote:I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words2storey wrote:I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!!gspot wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
lonniejockstrap
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9:12pm Sat 6 Feb 10
shaun from richmond wrote:Well Shaun, I wasn't one of those 'rose tinted' ones that made him stay. However, at least I have had the decency to treat him with respect. I don't know how old you are but I do know you are immature in the extreme. You can't even refrain from being disrespectful at this moment in time when many of us relate to Stuart not only through his superb efforts as a player during his two periods as a player for us, but we also relate with Stuart because of our shared experience of sadness and loss during the VP fire. You may or may not have been at that game which might explain to some degree your childl-like postings. I offered you the chance a few weeks ago to demonstrate what you really knew about 'coaching' and you bottled it. You and the rest who come on here and criticise McCall without being able to express any knowledge or experience of coaching make me laugh because those of us that have been there and done it can spot you a million miles away. You need to do some growing up Shaun, you have finally gotten your wish and you can start calling for the next managers head in another years time if we are not top of the league.
McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!!
albion
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9:17pm Sat 6 Feb 10
djmoulson wrote:Usually someone from Ireland.
What is a 'moran'....!?!
mahb70
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9:17pm Sat 6 Feb 10
gspot
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9:19pm Sat 6 Feb 10
shaun from richmond wrote:please shed some light on how we will rise....and no ifs and maybes - please feel free to share some of your knowledge with us!!
macca1969 wrote:-joinWELL LETS SAY......A SPORTSMANS BET!! NOW THE DEAD WEIGHT OF McCALL HAS LEFT (Coaching wise I mean)....BRADFORD CITY WILL RISE!! As for Fans calling for Coaches head........Comes with the job!! Water off a ducks back if they are any good!!shaun from richmond wrote:I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words2storey wrote:I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!!gspot wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
Lawn for ever
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9:25pm Sat 6 Feb 10
lonniejockstrap wrote:you dont know anything about respect you would bring the fire up just to have a go at somone and to protect mccall i was there and i have seen things that i wouldnt want anyone ells witness and mark ellis is a close fraind of the family and i know mark lawn was there that day too and put somone out so just shut your face!!!!
shaun from richmond wrote: McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!!Well Shaun, I wasn't one of those 'rose tinted' ones that made him stay. However, at least I have had the decency to treat him with respect. I don't know how old you are but I do know you are immature in the extreme. You can't even refrain from being disrespectful at this moment in time when many of us relate to Stuart not only through his superb efforts as a player during his two periods as a player for us, but we also relate with Stuart because of our shared experience of sadness and loss during the VP fire. You may or may not have been at that game which might explain to some degree your childl-like postings. I offered you the chance a few weeks ago to demonstrate what you really knew about 'coaching' and you bottled it. You and the rest who come on here and criticise McCall without being able to express any knowledge or experience of coaching make me laugh because those of us that have been there and done it can spot you a million miles away. You need to do some growing up Shaun, you have finally gotten your wish and you can start calling for the next managers head in another years time if we are not top of the league.
djmoulson
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9:26pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:Well if you read my post from earlier I'd say I'm a McCall fan, but only because of what he's done for the club throughout his career, I'm sad as he cares for the club greatly and myself personally would have loved for him to succeed, alas that hasn't been the case but sees the bigger picture and is man enough to admit that he hasn't, epitomising the character of the man. Stuart will still be a City fan, long after his seat has been filled and I wish him all the best.
Lawn for ever wrote:let me put gspot on that list toodjmoulson wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?!somone that surports mccall and not bradford city like most of the people on hear aka macca and citygent
shaun from richmond
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9:26pm Sat 6 Feb 10
shaun from richmond
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9:31pm Sat 6 Feb 10
The General 82-86 wrote:Ah!!!...........GENE
shaun from richmond wrote:You complete arse hole shaun you are no fan your a f---- disgrace to the club just f*** offmacca1969 wrote:-joinWELL LETS SAY......A SPORTSMANS BET!! NOW THE DEAD WEIGHT OF McCALL HAS LEFT (Coaching wise I mean)....BRADFORD CITY WILL RISE!! As for Fans calling for Coaches head........Comes with the job!! Water off a ducks back if they are any good!!shaun from richmond wrote:I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words2storey wrote:I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!!gspot wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
mrshower
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9:32pm Sat 6 Feb 10
lonniejockstrap wrote:Well said lonniejockstrap.
shaun from richmond wrote: McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!!Well Shaun, I wasn't one of those 'rose tinted' ones that made him stay. However, at least I have had the decency to treat him with respect. I don't know how old you are but I do know you are immature in the extreme. You can't even refrain from being disrespectful at this moment in time when many of us relate to Stuart not only through his superb efforts as a player during his two periods as a player for us, but we also relate with Stuart because of our shared experience of sadness and loss during the VP fire. You may or may not have been at that game which might explain to some degree your childl-like postings. I offered you the chance a few weeks ago to demonstrate what you really knew about 'coaching' and you bottled it. You and the rest who come on here and criticise McCall without being able to express any knowledge or experience of coaching make me laugh because those of us that have been there and done it can spot you a million miles away. You need to do some growing up Shaun, you have finally gotten your wish and you can start calling for the next managers head in another years time if we are not top of the league.
bantambelle
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9:37pm Sat 6 Feb 10
lonniejockstrap
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9:39pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:Don't and never had a problem with Mark Lawn so put your 2 brain cells together and use them a bit more effectively to read.
lonniejockstrap wrote:you dont know anything about respect you would bring the fire up just to have a go at somone and to protect mccall i was there and i have seen things that i wouldnt want anyone ells witness and mark ellis is a close fraind of the family and i know mark lawn was there that day too and put somone out so just shut your face!!!!shaun from richmond wrote: McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!!Well Shaun, I wasn't one of those 'rose tinted' ones that made him stay. However, at least I have had the decency to treat him with respect. I don't know how old you are but I do know you are immature in the extreme. You can't even refrain from being disrespectful at this moment in time when many of us relate to Stuart not only through his superb efforts as a player during his two periods as a player for us, but we also relate with Stuart because of our shared experience of sadness and loss during the VP fire. You may or may not have been at that game which might explain to some degree your childl-like postings. I offered you the chance a few weeks ago to demonstrate what you really knew about 'coaching' and you bottled it. You and the rest who come on here and criticise McCall without being able to express any knowledge or experience of coaching make me laugh because those of us that have been there and done it can spot you a million miles away. You need to do some growing up Shaun, you have finally gotten your wish and you can start calling for the next managers head in another years time if we are not top of the league.
2storey
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9:39pm Sat 6 Feb 10
mrshower wrote:i think any of you discussing the fire with mccalls management skills are sick, yes i was there that day with many other true fans and players,jacko,mega etc and we resepct all fans including lawn that day that helped to save our fans, so lets leave the fire out of this
lonniejockstrap wrote:Well said lonniejockstrap. As for shaun THE TRAITOR from richmond TRAITORS OUT and confiscate their season tickets.shaun from richmond wrote: McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!!Well Shaun, I wasn't one of those 'rose tinted' ones that made him stay. However, at least I have had the decency to treat him with respect. I don't know how old you are but I do know you are immature in the extreme. You can't even refrain from being disrespectful at this moment in time when many of us relate to Stuart not only through his superb efforts as a player during his two periods as a player for us, but we also relate with Stuart because of our shared experience of sadness and loss during the VP fire. You may or may not have been at that game which might explain to some degree your childl-like postings. I offered you the chance a few weeks ago to demonstrate what you really knew about 'coaching' and you bottled it. You and the rest who come on here and criticise McCall without being able to express any knowledge or experience of coaching make me laugh because those of us that have been there and done it can spot you a million miles away. You need to do some growing up Shaun, you have finally gotten your wish and you can start calling for the next managers head in another years time if we are not top of the league.
The General 82-86
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9:41pm Sat 6 Feb 10
shaun from richmond wrote:Shaun would love to meet i sit in the sunwin block d fow l seat 24 or come for a pint in the swing gate in idle before a game if you are old enough to drink that is !!
The General 82-86 wrote:Ah!!!...........GENE RAL "ROSE TINTED HIMSELF" Hope you dont kiss your mother with that dirty mouth of yours!!shaun from richmond wrote:You complete arse hole shaun you are no fan your a f---- disgrace to the club just f*** offmacca1969 wrote:-joinWELL LETS SAY......A SPORTSMANS BET!! NOW THE DEAD WEIGHT OF McCALL HAS LEFT (Coaching wise I mean)....BRADFORD CITY WILL RISE!! As for Fans calling for Coaches head........Comes with the job!! Water off a ducks back if they are any good!!shaun from richmond wrote:I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words2storey wrote:I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!!gspot wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
Lawn for ever
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9:43pm Sat 6 Feb 10
bantambelle wrote:you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.
gspot
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9:44pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey wrote:not sure who this mr kay is lol.....seriously i don't know who i'd give it to.
gspot wrote: obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.ok mr kay who is your choice
macca1969
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9:47pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey wrote:Exactly so if no money to take out= no money to spend = no money for mccall to fleece us with and you say i'm no fan. I'm only saying he isn't whiter than white and inflames the situation with ludicrous comments and his own decision making isn't exactly perfect. so are you saying he isn't taking any interest on his loan
macca1969 wrote:pick the phone and speak to lawn he isnt taking anything out of the club, if you were a fan you would know there is no money to take outLawn for ever wrote: ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTIDWhat? Are you for real, who said anything about hating him, i know he invested in the club or should i say loaned money to the club,(wonder what the interest rate is) what i'm saying is that i don't believe a word he says he is like gordon brown and david cameron all promising everything and delivering what? You blame Stu so answer why was it Lawn gave him another 2 year deal when we had achieved nothing,why did he talk Stuart out of quitting by asking the fans to more or less beg him to stay? Stuart is hung out to dry for his mistakes why can't Lawn take any criticism. Cuts both ways in my eyes he made the decision to employ him offer another contract beg him to stay mouth off about back to back promotions but in your eyes can do no wrong. WHATEVER
smitd
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9:48pm Sat 6 Feb 10
shaun from richmond
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9:49pm Sat 6 Feb 10
The General 82-86 wrote:Thanks for the info!! Your language could be a "BIT FRUITY" for me!!
shaun from richmond wrote:Shaun would love to meet i sit in the sunwin block d fow l seat 24 or come for a pint in the swing gate in idle before a game if you are old enough to drink that is !!The General 82-86 wrote:Ah!!!...........GENE RAL "ROSE TINTED HIMSELF" Hope you dont kiss your mother with that dirty mouth of yours!!shaun from richmond wrote:You complete arse hole shaun you are no fan your a f---- disgrace to the club just f*** offmacca1969 wrote:-joinWELL LETS SAY......A SPORTSMANS BET!! NOW THE DEAD WEIGHT OF McCALL HAS LEFT (Coaching wise I mean)....BRADFORD CITY WILL RISE!! As for Fans calling for Coaches head........Comes with the job!! Water off a ducks back if they are any good!!shaun from richmond wrote:I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words2storey wrote:I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!!gspot wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
The General 82-86
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9:50pm Sat 6 Feb 10
gspot wrote:Its well known that lawn is a friend of jackos so would not be surprised funny how things turn round ,there again shaun will be shouting for his head in six months if this happened!!
2storey wrote:not sure who this mr kay is lol.....seriously i don't know who i'd give it to. Jewell wont take it so i think i'm safe to say we can forget that one. dolan is a no no for me. deano as no experience what so ever so surely mccall may as well stayed. peter taylor??? would he want it? maybe with a promise of a decent budget and he's done it from this level before with Wycombe so if they can attract him then why not us? jacko?? we could do worse sinnott?? not sure what my thoughts are on that one. but like i say i'm not an expert on managers at this level but how about people like the guy from Acc Stanley (not sure about his name) but if people like that can do a decent job with a club that size then why not have a punt on him or someone similar? if i was to have a wager on it i'd possible go for jacko on a short term contract until end of season...just my opinion...yours?gspot wrote: obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.ok mr kay who is your choice
thecitygent
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9:51pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:You really do seem to live in a simple black and white world. Respect for Stuart McCall is not about not continuing to support the club I have followed for the last 30 odd years. I hope to heavens that you are not 'Mr' Lawn because if so he is evidently not that bright. I look forward to his comments in a T&A interview on Monday and not via pseudo-nyms or lackies on this message board.
thecitygent wrote:at least theres guna be one now mcalls gone but i take it your a mccall fan so you will be surporting the team he`s going to if enyone is stupid enough to take himLawn for ever wrote:Well if his weight loss plan goes to plan why don't you share his trousers and be part of the success story?thecitygent wrote:i wish i was half the man he is he`s one of the best things that happend to this club which is more that i can say about mccall becoming manager CTIDLawn for ever wrote:Are you 'Mr' Lawn in disguise or just high on the wakky baccy?thecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID
BeckenhamBantam
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9:51pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey
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9:52pm Sat 6 Feb 10
macca1969 wrote:yes i know he isnt taking any interest on his money, pick up the phone and if you dont have the guts to talk to him speak to julian he is very approachable, or even have a look at the accounts
2storey wrote:Exactly so if no money to take out= no money to spend = no money for mccall to fleece us with and you say i'm no fan. I'm only saying he isn't whiter than white and inflames the situation with ludicrous comments and his own decision making isn't exactly perfect. so are you saying he isn't taking any interest on his loanmacca1969 wrote:pick the phone and speak to lawn he isnt taking anything out of the club, if you were a fan you would know there is no money to take outLawn for ever wrote: ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTIDWhat? Are you for real, who said anything about hating him, i know he invested in the club or should i say loaned money to the club,(wonder what the interest rate is) what i'm saying is that i don't believe a word he says he is like gordon brown and david cameron all promising everything and delivering what? You blame Stu so answer why was it Lawn gave him another 2 year deal when we had achieved nothing,why did he talk Stuart out of quitting by asking the fans to more or less beg him to stay? Stuart is hung out to dry for his mistakes why can't Lawn take any criticism. Cuts both ways in my eyes he made the decision to employ him offer another contract beg him to stay mouth off about back to back promotions but in your eyes can do no wrong. WHATEVER
bantambelle
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9:52pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break
bantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
macca1969
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9:56pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey wrote:You question my love of the club and pull out those 2 names. What an idiot. For your information i have supported city for nearly 3 decades through many different managers and have supported them all bar 2. City's problems will not disapear with McCall i will guarentee that unless Lawn is going to magic some extra cash from some where. As a city supporter can you not remenber Jacko dissing this club whilst at scum.No i don't think most city fans would want him
mahb70 wrote: It's a very sad day , with ironically our most convincing performance for weeks.Our players can't score and any slight mistake at the back seems to get punished.Today's failings are not down to Stuart and on those fine margins todays sad decision has been reached.The next manager is going to have to be blessed with a huge amount of good fortune cos he's still got a moderate budget and will have less tolerence from our impatient fans. DW til end of season is an option if we don't want to break somebody's contract .there is alot of managers out of work, sinnott, jacko,just 2 that spring to mind
2storey
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9:58pm Sat 6 Feb 10
The General 82-86 wrote:jacko is a mate of mega's as they played together along with mccall, so why dont we get mega as a manager.lol also we are all saying mccall is going, but surely he cannt go without a board meeting as he is in a 2 year contract
gspot wrote:Its well known that lawn is a friend of jackos so would not be surprised funny how things turn round ,there again shaun will be shouting for his head in six months if this happened!!2storey wrote:not sure who this mr kay is lol.....seriously i don't know who i'd give it to. Jewell wont take it so i think i'm safe to say we can forget that one. dolan is a no no for me. deano as no experience what so ever so surely mccall may as well stayed. peter taylor??? would he want it? maybe with a promise of a decent budget and he's done it from this level before with Wycombe so if they can attract him then why not us? jacko?? we could do worse sinnott?? not sure what my thoughts are on that one. but like i say i'm not an expert on managers at this level but how about people like the guy from Acc Stanley (not sure about his name) but if people like that can do a decent job with a club that size then why not have a punt on him or someone similar? if i was to have a wager on it i'd possible go for jacko on a short term contract until end of season...just my opinion...yours?gspot wrote: obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.ok mr kay who is your choice
DelShelf
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9:58pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey
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10:00pm Sat 6 Feb 10
gspot wrote:heard that phil brown from hull was looking for a new position
2storey wrote:not sure who this mr kay is lol.....seriously i don't know who i'd give it to. Jewell wont take it so i think i'm safe to say we can forget that one. dolan is a no no for me. deano as no experience what so ever so surely mccall may as well stayed. peter taylor??? would he want it? maybe with a promise of a decent budget and he's done it from this level before with Wycombe so if they can attract him then why not us? jacko?? we could do worse sinnott?? not sure what my thoughts are on that one. but like i say i'm not an expert on managers at this level but how about people like the guy from Acc Stanley (not sure about his name) but if people like that can do a decent job with a club that size then why not have a punt on him or someone similar? if i was to have a wager on it i'd possible go for jacko on a short term contract until end of season...just my opinion...yours?gspot wrote: obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.ok mr kay who is your choice
Lawn for ever
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10:01pm Sat 6 Feb 10
macca1969
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10:05pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:Yes and maybe your beloved friend Lawn should have let him hey instead of bending his ear and asking the fans to beg him to give it one more go. To question me and others as fans of bradford city because we respect the bloke shows just what a pr!ck you are
bantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
skyblogger
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10:07pm Sat 6 Feb 10
gspot
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10:09pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:i cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!!
cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon
2storey
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10:09pm Sat 6 Feb 10
bantambelle wrote:yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment
Lawn for ever wrote:you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a breakbantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
gspot
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10:10pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey wrote:come on Mr B a serious repsonse!!
gspot wrote:heard that phil brown from hull was looking for a new position2storey wrote:not sure who this mr kay is lol.....seriously i don't know who i'd give it to. Jewell wont take it so i think i'm safe to say we can forget that one. dolan is a no no for me. deano as no experience what so ever so surely mccall may as well stayed. peter taylor??? would he want it? maybe with a promise of a decent budget and he's done it from this level before with Wycombe so if they can attract him then why not us? jacko?? we could do worse sinnott?? not sure what my thoughts are on that one. but like i say i'm not an expert on managers at this level but how about people like the guy from Acc Stanley (not sure about his name) but if people like that can do a decent job with a club that size then why not have a punt on him or someone similar? if i was to have a wager on it i'd possible go for jacko on a short term contract until end of season...just my opinion...yours?gspot wrote: obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.ok mr kay who is your choice
skyblogger
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10:15pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey
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10:15pm Sat 6 Feb 10
DelShelf wrote:who says it has ended, we have been here befor last year and he didnt go
Thanks for all your efforts Stuart, & the memories. Im disappointed its ended this way......
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10:17pm Sat 6 Feb 10
gspot wrote:all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2
Lawn for ever wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGoni cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.
skyblogger
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10:21pm Sat 6 Feb 10
macca1969
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10:23pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:Sorry and you have been nice i must have missed that. McCall quit today so agrees with you that he is not up to it. So i can't excuse your abuse and lack of respect for the man. McCall earned it over nearly 30 years Mark Lawn has still to prove and earn the fans respect thats A fact and if he don't get the correct manager in and it better not be jacko he might yet face the fans wrath
macca1969 wrote:thats not very nice i do respect mccall as a player but not as a manager because he`s s***Lawn for ever wrote:Yes and maybe your beloved friend Lawn should have let him hey instead of bending his ear and asking the fans to beg him to give it one more go. To question me and others as fans of bradford city because we respect the bloke shows just what a pr!ck you arebantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
2storey
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10:24pm Sat 6 Feb 10
skyblogger wrote:well you get your money out you pri----k, he was ok 2 year ago when he got us out of the sh1t wasnt he, dont see anybody else putting there money in there pockets do you
This club will never move forward whilst lawn is chairman. We need a real investor not a pretend loaner.
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10:25pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:i wouldn't say he is prolific cos surely Grimsby wouldn't have shipped him out otherwise.
gspot wrote:all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2Lawn for ever wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGoni cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.
shaun from richmond
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10:27pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever
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10:28pm Sat 6 Feb 10
The General 82-86 wrote:i bet you wish that you were a few quid behind me just guna go to sleep now with all the profits of flamingo land in my bank account
Lawn for ever wrote:go to sleep now in your one bedroom council flat you thick simple ****macca1969 wrote:thats not very nice i do respect mccall as a player but not as a manager because he`s s***Lawn for ever wrote:Yes and maybe your beloved friend Lawn should have let him hey instead of bending his ear and asking the fans to beg him to give it one more go. To question me and others as fans of bradford city because we respect the bloke shows just what a pr!ck you arebantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
macca1969
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10:29pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:A fact will prove Conlon scored more goals in less minutes on the pitch last season under McCall than under his coaches this season. So i'm wondering what does this actually prove? I suppose it means you talk sh!te
gspot wrote:all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2Lawn for ever wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGoni cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.
gspot
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10:29pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever
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10:32pm Sat 6 Feb 10
macca1969 wrote:but not quite as much as you
Lawn for ever wrote:A fact will prove Conlon scored more goals in less minutes on the pitch last season under McCall than under his coaches this season. So i'm wondering what does this actually prove? I suppose it means you talk sh!tegspot wrote:all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2Lawn for ever wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGoni cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.
gspot
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10:34pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:this is becoming quite comical now...keep going lads
macca1969 wrote:but not quite as much as youLawn for ever wrote:A fact will prove Conlon scored more goals in less minutes on the pitch last season under McCall than under his coaches this season. So i'm wondering what does this actually prove? I suppose it means you talk sh!tegspot wrote:all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2Lawn for ever wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGoni cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.
skyblogger
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10:35pm Sat 6 Feb 10
bantambelle
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10:38pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey wrote:oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.
bantambelle wrote:yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you commentLawn for ever wrote:you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a breakbantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
2storey
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10:39pm Sat 6 Feb 10
skyblogger wrote:not much support from you at £135 did you pay for your season ticket, try putting 2 million in, u to22er
what money has lawn put in? (not inc the money put in / taken back out) not exactly an investor! 7th best budget in div 2 with our support. does not add up.
bazzer2202
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10:39pm Sat 6 Feb 10
shaun from richmond
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10:43pm Sat 6 Feb 10
bazzer2202 wrote:We have some pretty good players for this division!!! They just need COACHING properly!!
I think it will be bad for city if Mcall does leave who ever come in will inherit the same players maybe it time the players took some blame for under performing
2storey
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10:45pm Sat 6 Feb 10
bantambelle wrote:he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant
2storey wrote:oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.bantambelle wrote:yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you commentLawn for ever wrote:you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a breakbantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
2storey
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10:49pm Sat 6 Feb 10
shaun from richmond wrote:well said, best comment on here all night
bazzer2202 wrote: I think it will be bad for city if Mcall does leave who ever come in will inherit the same players maybe it time the players took some blame for under performingWe have some pretty good players for this division!!! They just need COACHING properly!!
skyblogger
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10:50pm Sat 6 Feb 10
bantambelle
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10:50pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey wrote:they don't have to pay millions out on renting their stadium!!! as for avram grant- we couldn't afford him and he probably doesn't give a monkeys about bcfc!
bantambelle wrote:he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant2storey wrote:oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.bantambelle wrote:yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you commentLawn for ever wrote:you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a breakbantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
lonniejockstrap
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10:51pm Sat 6 Feb 10
bazzer2202 wrote:I don't think we are far off being a decent team. I don't think the players can be accussed of not giving 100%. However, we surely all realised that we were not getting top quality players on the money Stuart had for bringing in players, and this lack of quality -no disrespect to the players- has cost us home and away. Some of us can understand this and don't blame the Manager totally for not being around the play-off places. Then there are those who think that Stuart is one of the worst Managers in league 2. Of course all our previous 10 managers or so were absolutely outstandingly succesfull weren't they.
I think it will be bad for city if Mcall does leave who ever come in will inherit the same players maybe it time the players took some blame for under performing
macca1969
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10:51pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:Maybe, maybe but i've not spent all night slagging the greatest servant bradford city will ever have. One that will never ever diss this club wherever he goes next whatever he does next. I hope for one that they is no payoff as we can't afford one but also so they is no confidentially clause and then one day Stuart can tell us the whole story maybe through a book because i'm saying now i agree he has failed and made mistakes i never said he didn't but it aint all black and white. Someone said earlier that we should get behind whoever is the manager and i know that is correct but i don't think i can stomach Jacko. This club made him who he was and to slag us off when at town i don't think i could go whilst he was manager. Just my opinion i know but i'd have to think long and hard. I'd still get my ticket just wouldn't attend i don't think he would last that long anyway
macca1969 wrote:but not quite as much as youLawn for ever wrote:A fact will prove Conlon scored more goals in less minutes on the pitch last season under McCall than under his coaches this season. So i'm wondering what does this actually prove? I suppose it means you talk sh!tegspot wrote:all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2Lawn for ever wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGoni cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.
gspot
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10:51pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey wrote:if what your saying is right then why did Lawn agree to a extension last year??
bantambelle wrote:he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant2storey wrote:oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.bantambelle wrote:yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you commentLawn for ever wrote:you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a breakbantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
skyblogger
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10:53pm Sat 6 Feb 10
2storey
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10:53pm Sat 6 Feb 10
skyblogger wrote:get your facts right he hasnt taken it back yet,delph money went to pay the loss from last year for not going up
no need for name calling, please get your facts right. the loan was not an investment. that why its called a loan and that why it was withdrew once we received funds regarding the delph and colbeck sales
skyblogger
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10:57pm Sat 6 Feb 10
macca1969
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10:58pm Sat 6 Feb 10
gspot wrote:EXACTLY MY POINT. McCall gets hung for bad decisions why can't Lawn take some of the blame he employed him. Surely poor judgement on Lawns half and then to compound it all by begging him to stay as well as getting the fans to put pressure on him to stay. But alas to some he can do no wrong but i will say he is walking a very thin rope now and he may yet soon fall
2storey wrote:if what your saying is right then why did Lawn agree to a extension last year??bantambelle wrote:he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant2storey wrote:oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.bantambelle wrote:yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you commentLawn for ever wrote:you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a breakbantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
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2storey wrote:not taken it back yet??? so he will take it back...maybe from the ticket sales giving us even less of a budget for next year...loads of bosses will want the job based on that!!!
skyblogger wrote: no need for name calling, please get your facts right. the loan was not an investment. that why its called a loan and that why it was withdrew once we received funds regarding the delph and colbeck salesget your facts right he hasnt taken it back yet,delph money went to pay the loss from last year for not going up
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skyblogger wrote:£85k are you having a joke, i think you should start going to some fans forums, more like £25k, ticket sales 9000 at £135 each, that was mccall wage
ha ha ha, easily fooled. whats happened to all ticket sales then? or colbecks 85k? may as well get ticket sales like accrington stanley, our fans cant add up.
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macca1969 wrote:lawn and rhodes employed him, have you forgotton we have 2 chairmen
gspot wrote:EXACTLY MY POINT. McCall gets hung for bad decisions why can't Lawn take some of the blame he employed him. Surely poor judgement on Lawns half and then to compound it all by begging him to stay as well as getting the fans to put pressure on him to stay. But alas to some he can do no wrong but i will say he is walking a very thin rope now and he may yet soon fall2storey wrote:if what your saying is right then why did Lawn agree to a extension last year??bantambelle wrote:he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant2storey wrote:oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.bantambelle wrote:yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you commentLawn for ever wrote:you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a breakbantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
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gspot
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2storey wrote:before i comment i admit that lawn helped us when needed most but rhodes as proved his worth to this club many times over so to try and now pass the book to him isn't morally right.....you make it sound like lawn should been seen as a saviour and not take the flak when it comes his way.
macca1969 wrote:lawn and rhodes employed him, have you forgotton we have 2 chairmengspot wrote:EXACTLY MY POINT. McCall gets hung for bad decisions why can't Lawn take some of the blame he employed him. Surely poor judgement on Lawns half and then to compound it all by begging him to stay as well as getting the fans to put pressure on him to stay. But alas to some he can do no wrong but i will say he is walking a very thin rope now and he may yet soon fall2storey wrote:if what your saying is right then why did Lawn agree to a extension last year??bantambelle wrote:he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant2storey wrote:oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.bantambelle wrote:yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you commentLawn for ever wrote:you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a breakbantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
lonniejockstrap
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gspot
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2storey wrote:so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the club
Clamber wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.
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11:20pm Sat 6 Feb 10
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gspot wrote:i do have respect for mccall as a player but not a manager, he should have gone last year, and i am not slating rhodes either, all i said it is joint decisions as chairmen, so why blame 1 chairman
2storey wrote:so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the clubClamber wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.
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11:33pm Sat 6 Feb 10
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2storey wrote:but if what you are saying is correct and you have confirmed it on more then 1 occasion tonight then lawns money was only a loan and will take it back at some point...u said above that he hasn't taken it back yet which makes one assume he will be doing so. Surely for someone to invest money means something different then to give a loan?? for all i know you may be basing all this on non facts which if is true then all is good and well but i personally believe what you are saying is right (based on what you've said) so if this is the case what as he actually invested??
gspot wrote:i do have respect for mccall as a player but not a manager, he should have gone last year, and i am not slating rhodes either, all i said it is joint decisions as chairmen, so why blame 1 chairman2storey wrote:so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the clubClamber wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.
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lonniejockstrap
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2storey wrote:'Respect for mccall as a player but not a manager'. What about McCall as a person ? Talk about clueless supporters!
gspot wrote:i do have respect for mccall as a player but not a manager, he should have gone last year, and i am not slating rhodes either, all i said it is joint decisions as chairmen, so why blame 1 chairman2storey wrote:so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the clubClamber wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.
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11:47pm Sat 6 Feb 10
shaun from richmond
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fatbloke wrote:I have to say Fatbloke........You had it right with Ramsden!!
For any true City fan the day Stuart McCall leaves Valley Parade is a sad one. It maybe the best thing for the club and if so lets move on, but it is still very very sad indeed. Some people may be glad to see the back of him, but surely they must wish things had been different? If not they either have personal grudges against him or are not City fans. I can't believe people no matter what they think of his coaching techniques can slate the guy, it beggers belief. Here are the reasons why I think he hasnt been succesful in order. 1) No experience to help him ie No.2 2) I think he has over complicated things, keep it simple. 3) When it has been kept simple in a 442 sqaure pegs in round holes, for example Evans on right today and Hanson on left in second half with Brandon & Nielson on bench? 4) He has not had the rub of the green 5) Are we sent poor refs to VP on purpose. I am very suspicious that on the day McCall quotes twice on the radio Julian Rhodes the chairmen (as if there is only ONE) we have a new poster on here 'Lawn for ever' slating the hell out of McCall. If McCall moves on I wish him all the very best, for people to come on slating him, Julian or Mark makes me wanna go watch Leeds & Pappa Smurf (as if)........ Lets see what Monday brings..... If it ends here is my prediction... This is based on a new replacemnt been appointed in the summer. I think 2 from the following 3 will take charge till the end of the season Windass, Dolan & Mark Ellis. I want to put my hat into the ring, I think I would still reach the play off's.
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2storey
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lonniejockstrap wrote:ok a very nice guy too, and a wonderful dad. what more can i say
2storey wrote:'Respect for mccall as a player but not a manager'. What about McCall as a person ? Talk about clueless supporters!gspot wrote:i do have respect for mccall as a player but not a manager, he should have gone last year, and i am not slating rhodes either, all i said it is joint decisions as chairmen, so why blame 1 chairman2storey wrote:so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the clubClamber wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.
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11:54pm Sat 6 Feb 10
dannbradfc wrote:very well put indeed and until tonight with the appearance of Lawnforever and Storey2 (his sidekick) i believe you are right. Maybe once Stu sits down and thinks about all the wrongs of his tenure (both on and off the field) he will realise that it was an impossible job and won't beat himself up so much. I already feel sorry for the next guy and i think somebody who frequently visits the club and is pally pally with important people will be in charge very soon.
People should start to pay attention. been on about Lawn situation for some time. there are some stories around Stu's tenure i believe that have not been adequately explained, finances are one, Topp, Eastward, Rehman amongst others. I don't think Stu will tell the truth if he thinks it would damage the club because he loves city, but he obviously has great respect for Rhodes which is the most likely reason he will present his resignation to him. he knows Rhodes is a true city man who has taken risks and jeopadised his personal life for the love of the club. A short time ago i played with the idea on here that perhaps there was a split amongst Rhodes and Lawn with Rhodes perhaps siding with STu. This was only conjecture and something i throw in to discuss. perhaps though it may not be far from the truth? Been asking for the beaming red face of Lawn to speak for a while but we hear nothing. Nothing since the delph loan!! (which was a huge gamble relying on a sale of a player to finance the club). Yes we needed Lawn at the time and he was a saviour of the club but now its time he moved on or found investors who will do exactly that INVEST in the club. Or you fickle moaners wil be happy for some time to come because manager after manager wil be in the same position. I'm gutted today but can state that i am not 'lashing' out at Lawn as someone to blame. I have been probably the first on this site to question his role and sudden silence/disappearanc e some months back and untill i hear something i will continue to question this area of the club. Is Stu a fall-guy?? In many ways the answer is yes. he was swept along by his own passion and self belief but also in part by the noises from others and who knows what promises. The results did not go as we wanted obviously but Stu i believe as left us in a better position as a club than when he came. We were in free-fall. Too many managers, too high expectations. No money. Too many loans players. No transfer fee's paid. We now we are led to believe financially stable. We have players we can cal our own. Many of these players are young and can and in many cases will progress. Stu has been unlucky in many many games. Even today we had far more chances than them yet lose. Had a defo penalty on Clarke by sodje not given and in many ways it summed up Stu's tenure. I genuinely am as gutted as i have been for a long while. I still hope Julian turns down Stu's request which would be very interesting, but in my heart watching Stu wander round the pitch at the end of the game i knew he was gone. I've a funny feeling that STu will be back one day in some capacity. His love for the club his too strong. He should be given the equivalent of a Bradford knighthood and an open-top bus parade. The guy is and always will be a legend. Thank you Stuart for all the many many happy memorys.
Rodney_Munch
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skyblogger
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lonniejockstrap
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2storey wrote:If I have to explain, you would never understand.
lonniejockstrap wrote:ok a very nice guy too, and a wonderful dad. what more can i say2storey wrote:'Respect for mccall as a player but not a manager'. What about McCall as a person ? Talk about clueless supporters!gspot wrote:i do have respect for mccall as a player but not a manager, he should have gone last year, and i am not slating rhodes either, all i said it is joint decisions as chairmen, so why blame 1 chairman2storey wrote:so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the clubClamber wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.
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12:06am Sun 7 Feb 10
skyblogger wrote:are we talking windas here
I agree, a frequent visitor who is pally pally is already lined up. After all it is lawns side kick.
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12:07am Sun 7 Feb 10
dannbradfc
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12:11am Sun 7 Feb 10
2storey wrote:Is this the same Windass who co-managed Darlington? Its started already ;)
skyblogger wrote: I agree, a frequent visitor who is pally pally is already lined up. After all it is lawns side kick.are we talking windas here
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Soulman
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2storey
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12:15am Sun 7 Feb 10
dannbradfc wrote:skyblogger seems to know everything and he says the next manager is a frequent visitor to VP and is pally pally and windas does play golf with mr rhodes
2storey wrote:Is this the same Windass who co-managed Darlington? Its started already ;)skyblogger wrote: I agree, a frequent visitor who is pally pally is already lined up. After all it is lawns side kick.are we talking windas here
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fatbloke wrote:evans was playing mostly on the right-wing all last season i believe. Thus he was not out of position. Ramsden should have had more games at centre-back (but hindsights easy int it) it was also good to watch him give Rehman a right telling-off whilst also prooving that Rehman is not and should not be captain (an upstairs political decision aimed to attract new investment or appease the new asian investors at the time??)
Cheers Shaun re Ramsden. It wasn't just from watching training though it was from the JPT when we won away 2-1, think it was Rochdale. That night he was very very good. I think McCall has put too much faith in players that have let him down too often, Rehman to name 1 who I think is worse then Clarke. I also think he should have kept Evans on his toes and not started him today just because of what he did at Torquay (especially out of position). I still think it is a sad sad day. I aint saying he should go neither am I saying he should stay, I dont know what to think at the moment. I have said it before that until I see his replacement could I comment on whever he should stay or not but by then it would be too late anyhow. McCall will always remain the most famous name I can relate to at VP in my life time and just wish it could have been different. I also agree with comments above that all is not right behind the scenes, something to do with the joint chairmen not agreeing on things, who actually has the final say (not re McCall, just in general) or is it 50/50?
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dannbradfc
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dannbradfc wrote:Windass as sometime sky reporter
A VERY SAD DAY FOR ALL TRUE CITY FANS. to all those who have given him abuse and often insane non-sensical rubbish i hope you are happy. I also hope that you all apply for the job as you obviously believe you can do a better job. At least you would surely be able to take the flak you have thrown at Stuart, some of it for nigh on two seasons, or would you? You are a disgrace most of you and will now have nothing to coment on. No obviously thats not true as you can now TARGET your next player and then perhaps 6 months down the line the next manager. Waynus for manager Brownsauceman for assistant Shaunthe sheep for kit man Lawnforever in rampton for urgent brain surgery
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dannbradfc
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Victor Clayton wrote:You say Stu wasn't suited to it then state we played really well.
nobody can slag SM for his passion and his commitment. and for his effort he should be thanked. however I do think he should have been allowed to leave at the end of last season. IMO he is not really suited to it. maybe he is too stubborn. maybe to loyal to players who have let him down. whatever. he went for the best part of a season playing thorne and boulding together when it clearly wasn't working. I thought today we played really well. the defence was brilliant. best i have seen Clarke and Rehman play. midfield was superb. flynn was everywhere. maybe we would have got a break through if we had 11 players giving 100%. however Daley was not interested. but i don't think SM would have taken him off if he had not wanted to come off. he would have just plowed on! this is not being a good manager. also our strikers are not good enough. Thorne - too old. Boulding to small/ weak/ slow. Hanson - too raw. just watched MOD. Spurs play a lot of ball into Crough and he knocks it down for Defoe. how did we end up with Hanson in midfield and Boulding leadind the line! anyway regardless I wish you good luck Stuart.
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12:39am Sun 7 Feb 10
2storey wrote:so what you 2 are saying it looks like Windass is the only thing our 2 chairmen have in common?
dannbradfc wrote:skyblogger seems to know everything and he says the next manager is a frequent visitor to VP and is pally pally and windas does play golf with mr rhodes2storey wrote:Is this the same Windass who co-managed Darlington? Its started already ;)skyblogger wrote: I agree, a frequent visitor who is pally pally is already lined up. After all it is lawns side kick.are we talking windas here
fatbloke
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12:46am Sun 7 Feb 10
dannbradfc
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fatbloke wrote:I like evans but he is no finisher and has no confidence in this area of his game. However he as consistently put in decent crosses even when supposedly operating as striker. he has pace and as you say provides cover/help for the full-back. I would have actually tried him in this position before now and hope he is played there again to see how he goes. stu ent for it today and the starting team on paper was extremely attacking as it needs to be at home. the problem we have with 4 4 2 is that Flynn and Bullock are lacking in pace and i believe fitness. Too many gaps appear i this area and when we actually go forward or defend breaks these two are too often behind play. i actually feel that we are perhaps best suited as a squad to play wing-backs especially considering our frailties at centre-half
dannbradfc, it aint hindsight I have been saying all season re Ramsden at CB. Yes Evans has spent most of his time out wide but in a 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 not as an out and out winger in a 442 like today, he has spent more of his time at VP tracking back and that was not why he was employed... I think Evans has been poor since he joined us but also feel for him because he has probably only ever known playing up front in a 442 which has never really happened here.
finemess
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bradfordmark
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clackett.lane
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GT Horton Bantam
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2storey
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Victor Clayton
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dannbradfc wrote:He started really positively, it could be arguded he had 4 strikers on tfrom the start. it was a gample that unfortunately did't pay off. SM did not sub Daley he subed himself. All the midfield except Daley played well (happy now?). SM has instilled a good work ethic thid season but for it to work you need 11 players all doing it. you might have a point about Bully but to be fair we only had 2 natural midfielders on pitch and to suggest he could have sat around in front of the defence while Flynn did all the work is not on.
Victor Clayton wrote: nobody can slag SM for his passion and his commitment. and for his effort he should be thanked. however I do think he should have been allowed to leave at the end of last season. IMO he is not really suited to it. maybe he is too stubborn. maybe to loyal to players who have let him down. whatever. he went for the best part of a season playing thorne and boulding together when it clearly wasn't working. I thought today we played really well. the defence was brilliant. best i have seen Clarke and Rehman play. midfield was superb. flynn was everywhere. maybe we would have got a break through if we had 11 players giving 100%. however Daley was not interested. but i don't think SM would have taken him off if he had not wanted to come off. he would have just plowed on! this is not being a good manager. also our strikers are not good enough. Thorne - too old. Boulding to small/ weak/ slow. Hanson - too raw. just watched MOD. Spurs play a lot of ball into Crough and he knocks it down for Defoe. how did we end up with Hanson in midfield and Boulding leadind the line! anyway regardless I wish you good luck Stuart.You say Stu wasn't suited to it then state we played really well. Then you state that the defence played well!!!!!! That Rehman played well????????? Midfield was superb???????? (daley wa sone of the midfield by the way) You are correct about Boulding whose going to ground was getting on my nerves never mind the refs. Thorne's intelligience nearly rescued the game and certainly had an effect on the game despite first game for yonks. Rehman was poor. Bullock was was inconsistent and again playing too far forward for the role he is supposed to and is best at (and probably told to play). Indeed his shot early on which went high and over despite under no pressure his further proof that he is NO attacking player. hanson was only switched so Stu was been POSITIVE. hanso played in that position for Guiseley and scored plenty of goals. Stu also took Daley off. Apply for manager that way everyone can all point out your faults but perhaps you are suited to the job ???
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10:10am Sun 7 Feb 10
2storey
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10:18am Sun 7 Feb 10
tyker wrote:your quoting jacko and windas does that mean wj going too
If he has resigned why is he waiting until monday to meet the directors? what purpose is being served by waiting to Monday? were the directors at the game or not? they were so why not have a meeting on Saturday night? As ever with SM there may be another agenda. if so what is that? Is his mind so made up like last time that he could be minded to change his opinion if asked to honour his contract at least until the end of the season? Yet again the actually position is unclear despite the walk around the ground and the initial interview on radio. If he does go the last thing we need is the double act of Little and Large in the form of Jacobs and Wetherall or even Windass. Jacko would be my choice as Jewell would not be interested preferring regularly visits of less than 90 days a time at his home in a year in Celebration (not Orlando, by the way, but Kissimmees-- zip code FL 34737).
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thecitygent
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10:38am Sun 7 Feb 10
clackett.lane wrote:Yes this has more to do with the failings of Stuart as manager. The bigger picture is a club weighed down with debt, a lack of leadership at the top and a depressed city with little wealth or self-confidence. Difficult to be optimistic for the future.
Attracting a new manager has another problem, little to do with football. That is simply Bradford itself, who would want to come to this depressing dump with holes in the ground and a ghetto feel about the place. It really smacks of third world and that may be insulting some of those countries.
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Baildonian
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ship
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12:15pm Sun 7 Feb 10
dannbradfc wrote:true and funny
A VERY SAD DAY FOR ALL TRUE CITY FANS. to all those who have given him abuse and often insane non-sensical rubbish i hope you are happy. I also hope that you all apply for the job as you obviously believe you can do a better job. At least you would surely be able to take the flak you have thrown at Stuart, some of it for nigh on two seasons, or would you? You are a disgrace most of you and will now have nothing to coment on. No obviously thats not true as you can now TARGET your next player and then perhaps 6 months down the line the next manager. Waynus for manager Brownsauceman for assistant Shaunthe sheep for kit man Lawnforever in rampton for urgent brain surgery
The General 82-86
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12:36pm Sun 7 Feb 10
ship wrote:Very True of the above all very sad little people .
dannbradfc wrote: A VERY SAD DAY FOR ALL TRUE CITY FANS. to all those who have given him abuse and often insane non-sensical rubbish i hope you are happy. I also hope that you all apply for the job as you obviously believe you can do a better job. At least you would surely be able to take the flak you have thrown at Stuart, some of it for nigh on two seasons, or would you? You are a disgrace most of you and will now have nothing to coment on. No obviously thats not true as you can now TARGET your next player and then perhaps 6 months down the line the next manager. Waynus for manager Brownsauceman for assistant Shaunthe sheep for kit man Lawnforever in rampton for urgent brain surgerytrue and funny
essmbee
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1:00pm Sun 7 Feb 10
djmoulson
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1:04pm Sun 7 Feb 10
paul64 wrote:Paul64, regarding your comments on Stuart being a legend (or not), visit the following site: http://en.wikipedia.
The history of football shows that very few good players return as managers to the clubs they played for and are successfull. The odds were stacked against Mccall. I find all this legend talk bazarre. He played for city in the eighties and when they failed in the playoffs to Middlesborough he was off. Apart from a spell a few years ago when he played for a side that got relegated, most off Mccalls achievments were with Everton, Rangers and Scotland. However their fans dont call him a legend. They call him an ex player. Their lies the problem with city fans. They live in a kind of fantasy land where mediocrity is regarded as success. For christ sakes when was this drooling going to end? At the first game in the blue square conference. Mccall was a good player. Those of us who had the pleasure of watching him in the eighties were the lucky ones. His dignity and respect he showed after the fire deserves the highest praise. But as a club Bradford City must move into the future and get out of this mess.
thecitygent
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1:34pm Sun 7 Feb 10
djmoulson wrote:DJMouslon I agree entirely - everyone knew that Stuart would leave at the end of 1988/89 and it is worth adding that he choose NOT to sign for L666ds Utd on the basis of loyalty with the fans. He certainly hadn't forgotten the Odsal chip fire incident or the general feelings about our ASBO neighbours. He has always demonstrated solidarity with City fans even when playing for the opposition (Everton & Sheff Utd). He was under no obligation to attend fire memorial ceremonies at VP but HE was one of the FEW ex-players to do so. No-one can say that he hasn't had a close affinity with our club. Okay I'll now sit back and wait for lawnrulesokay to wake up from his drunken stupor to tell me that I'm wrong and it is 'Mr' Lawn who is the real legend.
paul64 wrote: The history of football shows that very few good players return as managers to the clubs they played for and are successfull. The odds were stacked against Mccall. I find all this legend talk bazarre. He played for city in the eighties and when they failed in the playoffs to Middlesborough he was off. Apart from a spell a few years ago when he played for a side that got relegated, most off Mccalls achievments were with Everton, Rangers and Scotland. However their fans dont call him a legend. They call him an ex player. Their lies the problem with city fans. They live in a kind of fantasy land where mediocrity is regarded as success. For christ sakes when was this drooling going to end? At the first game in the blue square conference. Mccall was a good player. Those of us who had the pleasure of watching him in the eighties were the lucky ones. His dignity and respect he showed after the fire deserves the highest praise. But as a club Bradford City must move into the future and get out of this mess.Paul64, regarding your comments on Stuart being a legend (or not), visit the following site: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Rangers_F.C ._Hall_of_Fame I think you'll find Rangers class him as such, and he hardly turned and ran when we missed out in the play-offs to Middlesbrough, Jack Tordoff wouldn't part with a relatively small amount of money for John Salako and Andy Townsend to bolster the squad for a final push, EVERYONE knew Stuart and John Hendrie would be sold in the summer if we didn't get promotion, and that left a bitter taste with Stuart that investment wasn't forthcoming. Nothing would have made him prouder than to wear the claret & amber in the top flight, which of course he managed to do in his return. I suggest you get your facts right before spouting out that he was quick to leave. CTID
Spenvalleyspartan
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1:37pm Sun 7 Feb 10
paul64
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1:46pm Sun 7 Feb 10
truebantam82
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1:49pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Bricktop
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djmoulson
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2:05pm Sun 7 Feb 10
paul64 wrote:Paul64, I think you'll find it was you who brought up the events of 23 years ago, and is it not the desire of any sportsman to ply their trade at the highest level, nobody can fault Hendrie and McCall for that...!! I think you'll also find that even forward thinking clubs have their legends, however they are legends after time, I'm sure even Beckham will be regarded as such in time. Just spare a thought: What good is forward thinking and moving on if we can't reflect and discuss the trials, tribulations and succusses of our past? It's what makes us turn up each week to support our beloved team. CTID
Djmoulson BD2. Jack Tordoff refused to bankroll more players in 87 for the very simple reason that the club was in financial crisis. Macall and Hendry made no secret of their desire for top flight football. The club had no option but to sell them whilst their profile was high. However what is the point of raking up events of 23 years ago. He was just a squad player at Rangers. No more, no less. Only small minded clubs live in the shadow of legends. Forward thinking clubs move on. Did Man Utd call Beckham a legend when he left? No. Live with the legend idea if it makes you feel better. I dont subscribe to it.
truebantam82
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2:29pm Sun 7 Feb 10
djmoulson wrote:Paul64....what cr*p!!! McCall was part of the "10 in a row" Rangers team and I think the 15,000 fans that travelled to VP from Glasgow for his testomonial proves what they thought of a McCall - A LEGEND
paul64 wrote: Djmoulson BD2. Jack Tordoff refused to bankroll more players in 87 for the very simple reason that the club was in financial crisis. Macall and Hendry made no secret of their desire for top flight football. The club had no option but to sell them whilst their profile was high. However what is the point of raking up events of 23 years ago. He was just a squad player at Rangers. No more, no less. Only small minded clubs live in the shadow of legends. Forward thinking clubs move on. Did Man Utd call Beckham a legend when he left? No. Live with the legend idea if it makes you feel better. I dont subscribe to it.Paul64, I think you'll find it was you who brought up the events of 23 years ago, and is it not the desire of any sportsman to ply their trade at the highest level, nobody can fault Hendrie and McCall for that...!! I think you'll also find that even forward thinking clubs have their legends, however they are legends after time, I'm sure even Beckham will be regarded as such in time. Just spare a thought: What good is forward thinking and moving on if we can't reflect and discuss the trials, tribulations and succusses of our past? It's what makes us turn up each week to support our beloved team. CTID
djmoulson
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2:45pm Sun 7 Feb 10
truebantam82 wrote:Another thing Paul64, if City were in financial crisis in 1987 (which I don't think they particularly were) and they had to sell Hendrie & McCall, how then can you knock McCall for leaving if it wasn't his choice...you just contradicted yourself..!?! Truebantam82...good call, an average of 27 games a season doesn't constitute a 'squad' player, he was regarded as The Gers 'engine' without taking the plaudits of other players. CTID
djmoulson wrote:Paul64....what cr*p!!! McCall was part of the "10 in a row" Rangers team and I think the 15,000 fans that travelled to VP from Glasgow for his testomonial proves what they thought of a McCall - A LEGENDpaul64 wrote: Djmoulson BD2. Jack Tordoff refused to bankroll more players in 87 for the very simple reason that the club was in financial crisis. Macall and Hendry made no secret of their desire for top flight football. The club had no option but to sell them whilst their profile was high. However what is the point of raking up events of 23 years ago. He was just a squad player at Rangers. No more, no less. Only small minded clubs live in the shadow of legends. Forward thinking clubs move on. Did Man Utd call Beckham a legend when he left? No. Live with the legend idea if it makes you feel better. I dont subscribe to it.Paul64, I think you'll find it was you who brought up the events of 23 years ago, and is it not the desire of any sportsman to ply their trade at the highest level, nobody can fault Hendrie and McCall for that...!! I think you'll also find that even forward thinking clubs have their legends, however they are legends after time, I'm sure even Beckham will be regarded as such in time. Just spare a thought: What good is forward thinking and moving on if we can't reflect and discuss the trials, tribulations and succusses of our past? It's what makes us turn up each week to support our beloved team. CTID
Bradford1903
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3:05pm Sun 7 Feb 10
macca1969 wrote:Why does there always have to be a scapegoat?
2storey wrote:Exactly so if no money to take out= no money to spend = no money for mccall to fleece us with and you say i'm no fan. I'm only saying he isn't whiter than white and inflames the situation with ludicrous comments and his own decision making isn't exactly perfect. so are you saying he isn't taking any interest on his loanmacca1969 wrote:pick the phone and speak to lawn he isnt taking anything out of the club, if you were a fan you would know there is no money to take outLawn for ever wrote: ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTIDWhat? Are you for real, who said anything about hating him, i know he invested in the club or should i say loaned money to the club,(wonder what the interest rate is) what i'm saying is that i don't believe a word he says he is like gordon brown and david cameron all promising everything and delivering what? You blame Stu so answer why was it Lawn gave him another 2 year deal when we had achieved nothing,why did he talk Stuart out of quitting by asking the fans to more or less beg him to stay? Stuart is hung out to dry for his mistakes why can't Lawn take any criticism. Cuts both ways in my eyes he made the decision to employ him offer another contract beg him to stay mouth off about back to back promotions but in your eyes can do no wrong. WHATEVER
2storey
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3:22pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Spenvalleyspartan wrote:well said and agree with all your comments
Just remember everybody that the club comes before any man!! Is 16th satisfactory in a division full of pauper football clubs. This arguement that we're skint doesn't wash really wash with me. There are no wealthy clubs in this division. Last year we wern't so skint but still came up well short and with many rivals starting with minus points. Who do we blame for that? Lawn? Don't make me laugh!! The King is dead. Long live the King! CTID not McCall till I die!! Just hope Jacobs and Wethers fall on their sword too.
nowt fresh
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3:47pm Sun 7 Feb 10
djmoulson wrote:Good to see some one who has some knowledge of BCFC history you are quite correct that both Stuart & Hendrie would have stayed if Mr Tordoff had put him money where his mouth was, I believe not only would Stu & John stayed but we would have gained promotion automaticaly because without doubt that was the BEST footballing team I have had the pleasure watching in my 50+ years of following BCFC the only thing I would question is it was Keith Curle & Andy Townsend not John Salako ? but good post.
paul64 wrote: The history of football shows that very few good players return as managers to the clubs they played for and are successfull. The odds were stacked against Mccall. I find all this legend talk bazarre. He played for city in the eighties and when they failed in the playoffs to Middlesborough he was off. Apart from a spell a few years ago when he played for a side that got relegated, most off Mccalls achievments were with Everton, Rangers and Scotland. However their fans dont call him a legend. They call him an ex player. Their lies the problem with city fans. They live in a kind of fantasy land where mediocrity is regarded as success. For christ sakes when was this drooling going to end? At the first game in the blue square conference. Mccall was a good player. Those of us who had the pleasure of watching him in the eighties were the lucky ones. His dignity and respect he showed after the fire deserves the highest praise. But as a club Bradford City must move into the future and get out of this mess.Paul64, regarding your comments on Stuart being a legend (or not), visit the following site: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Rangers_F.C ._Hall_of_Fame I think you'll find Rangers class him as such, and he hardly turned and ran when we missed out in the play-offs to Middlesbrough, Jack Tordoff wouldn't part with a relatively small amount of money for John Salako and Andy Townsend to bolster the squad for a final push, EVERYONE knew Stuart and John Hendrie would be sold in the summer if we didn't get promotion, and that left a bitter taste with Stuart that investment wasn't forthcoming. Nothing would have made him prouder than to wear the claret & amber in the top flight, which of course he managed to do in his return. I suggest you get your facts right before spouting out that he was quick to leave. CTID
nowt fresh
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4:32pm Sun 7 Feb 10
paul64 wrote:http://www.youtube.c
The history of football shows that very few good players return as managers to the clubs they played for and are successfull. The odds were stacked against Mccall. I find all this legend talk bazarre. He played for city in the eighties and when they failed in the playoffs to Middlesborough he was off. Apart from a spell a few years ago when he played for a side that got relegated, most off Mccalls achievments were with Everton, Rangers and Scotland. However their fans dont call him a legend. They call him an ex player. Their lies the problem with city fans. They live in a kind of fantasy land where mediocrity is regarded as success. For christ sakes when was this drooling going to end? At the first game in the blue square conference. Mccall was a good player. Those of us who had the pleasure of watching him in the eighties were the lucky ones. His dignity and respect he showed after the fire deserves the highest praise. But as a club Bradford City must move into the future and get out of this mess.
dannbradfc
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5:02pm Sun 7 Feb 10
paul64 wrote:where have you come from?? Are you Lawn in disguise?? You are talking crap and quite clearly neither have respect for history nor Stuart as ex-player, supporter, patron, one of the few true heroes of Bradford, and even as manager. Squad player at Rangers??was that when he was the fulcrum of their midfield and Scotland international??
Djmoulson BD2. Jack Tordoff refused to bankroll more players in 87 for the very simple reason that the club was in financial crisis. Macall and Hendry made no secret of their desire for top flight football. The club had no option but to sell them whilst their profile was high. However what is the point of raking up events of 23 years ago. He was just a squad player at Rangers. No more, no less. Only small minded clubs live in the shadow of legends. Forward thinking clubs move on. Did Man Utd call Beckham a legend when he left? No. Live with the legend idea if it makes you feel better. I dont subscribe to it.
dannbradfc
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5:05pm Sun 7 Feb 10
essmbee wrote:How many games you watched lately that aren't on sky????
His resignation has come a season too late !
Reckless
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5:13pm Sun 7 Feb 10
dannbradfc
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5:29pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Lawn for ever wrote:Where you get that figure from?? If its from lawn i wouldn't trust it.
ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTID
dannbradfc
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5:32pm Sun 7 Feb 10
shaun from richmond wrote:KIT-MAN
WHO EVER WE GET AS OUR NEW COACH WILL NOT...........Play James Hanson in midfield, as he did in the second half today!! WELL LETS HOPE NOT ANYWAY!!
yorky
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6:12pm Sun 7 Feb 10
2storey
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6:40pm Sun 7 Feb 10
giveover
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7:09pm Sun 7 Feb 10
albion wrote:I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.
djmoulson wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?!Usually someone from Ireland.
truebantam82
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7:18pm Sun 7 Feb 10
2storey wrote:You complete and utter tw*t.
after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suite
2storey
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7:20pm Sun 7 Feb 10
giveover wrote:its a word used to describe some-one with a mental age of between 8 and 12
albion wrote:I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.djmoulson wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?!Usually someone from Ireland.
2storey
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7:24pm Sun 7 Feb 10
truebantam82 wrote:explain why? all i wrote is true, he thought he was bigger than the club, lets see what he wants tomorrow ,when he leaves us in financial difficulty tomorrow
2storey wrote: after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suiteYou complete and utter tw*t.
lonniejockstrap
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7:26pm Sun 7 Feb 10
2storey wrote:Oh so your the 'moran'!
giveover wrote:its a word used to describe some-one with a mental age of between 8 and 12albion wrote:I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.djmoulson wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?!Usually someone from Ireland.
thecitygent
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7:29pm Sun 7 Feb 10
2storey wrote:Ther are two people, yourself and Lawnforever who make the most incredible statements to paint a favourable picture ofMark Lawn that make me suspect that if either of you isn't 'Mr' Lawn then you are most certainly doing his talking. Thou protesteth too much to convince otherwise.
after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suite
Pablo
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7:33pm Sun 7 Feb 10
2storey
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7:35pm Sun 7 Feb 10
lonniejockstrap wrote:no its 90% of people on this site who are not city fans, they are just mccall fans and are happy to see us go into blue square at the end of the season, as like i have said before good player,not a good manager, and there is idiots calling for lawn.s head when he only as the club,s interest at heart
2storey wrote:Oh so your the 'moran'!giveover wrote:its a word used to describe some-one with a mental age of between 8 and 12albion wrote:I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.djmoulson wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?!Usually someone from Ireland.
2storey
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7:41pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Pablo wrote:Yes good idea, let him go and take his money, were will we be then, cannt see anybody wanting to put any money in.
Lawn appears to be as unpopular, as McCall was popular. I agree, there's something about him that's not quite right. Lawn can go as well - ASAP please.
The General 82-86
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7:47pm Sun 7 Feb 10
2storey wrote:Are you his love child you ****
lonniejockstrap wrote:no its 90% of people on this site who are not city fans, they are just mccall fans and are happy to see us go into blue square at the end of the season, as like i have said before good player,not a good manager, and there is idiots calling for lawn.s head when he only as the club,s interest at heart2storey wrote:Oh so your the 'moran'!giveover wrote:its a word used to describe some-one with a mental age of between 8 and 12albion wrote:I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.djmoulson wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?!Usually someone from Ireland.
2storey
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7:52pm Sun 7 Feb 10
thecitygent wrote:lawnforever not been on today perhaps he is polishing his boots ready to get behind mccall r se in the morning, haha
2storey wrote: after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suiteTher are two people, yourself and Lawnforever who make the most incredible statements to paint a favourable picture ofMark Lawn that make me suspect that if either of you isn't 'Mr' Lawn then you are most certainly doing his talking. Thou protesteth too much to convince otherwise.
2storey
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8:02pm Sun 7 Feb 10
The General 82-86 wrote:no my dad has his money in the bulls,probably has more sense than lawn
2storey wrote:Are you his love child you **** I hope the shy Mr lawn packs his bag and goes THERE is only ONE chairman and it aint your dad !! He put in money,do me a favour has no money he is a joke figure like you are on here !!lonniejockstrap wrote:no its 90% of people on this site who are not city fans, they are just mccall fans and are happy to see us go into blue square at the end of the season, as like i have said before good player,not a good manager, and there is idiots calling for lawn.s head when he only as the club,s interest at heart2storey wrote:Oh so your the 'moran'!giveover wrote:its a word used to describe some-one with a mental age of between 8 and 12albion wrote:I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.djmoulson wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?!Usually someone from Ireland.
thecitygent
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8:24pm Sun 7 Feb 10
2storey wrote:The similarity of your postings with that of lawnforever is uncanny - the same content, the same response, the same boarishness, the same uber-defensiveness and sensitivity at any criticism of 'Mr' Lawn. A psycho-analyst would have a field day. It wouldn't surprise me if you were one and the same. Ho ho 'warm-sign'.
thecitygent wrote:lawnforever not been on today perhaps he is polishing his boots ready to get behind mccall r se in the morning, haha2storey wrote: after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suiteTher are two people, yourself and Lawnforever who make the most incredible statements to paint a favourable picture ofMark Lawn that make me suspect that if either of you isn't 'Mr' Lawn then you are most certainly doing his talking. Thou protesteth too much to convince otherwise.
rowsman
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8:29pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Spenvalleyspartan
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9:11pm Sun 7 Feb 10
dannbradfc
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12:21am Mon 8 Feb 10
tyker
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7:53am Mon 8 Feb 10
macca1969
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8:26am Mon 8 Feb 10
tyker wrote:Maybe he is just out to look out for his staff ie Jacobs. How do we know that he isn't saying i don't want a pay out but please look after jacobs after all its my fault we haven't been successful i want to go and its my fault jakes has lost his job. That wouldn't suprise me one bit because the man is loyal to the club his staff and the fans. So far this season from the championship to league 2 25 managers have resigned or been sacked. Now then how many have texed the football league show to thank the fans for their incredible support? THATS RIGHT ONLY STUART MCCALL because thats the kind of guy he is. He will never ever take out of the club what he knows it cannot afford,its a slur against him and some of the comments have been disgusting. Yes he has failed but 99.9% of all true city fans will continue to respect the best player if not coach that city ever had a TRUE CITY MAN. Its time though for the club to move forward and the fans to unite and the club grow stronger and i don't know if that can happen with the boardroom split i think we need one chairman that can make strong decisions as this saga has shown when they is a split it rips the club in two.
posted elsewhere on these pages "agree with you spleen victor. However was he pushed or not. The inference is, by his seaking a compenstion package, that he was sacked yet it seems from the "exclusive report" that he "McCall decided to go after Saturday’s 1-0 loss to Bury at Valley Parade, ending a reign that began in May 2007" If he descides to walk out on a contract then the club itself could be lookimg for compensation from MCcall for breach of contract. If the club had sacked him then he would be entitled to full recompense for the remaining period of his contract. So was he sacked or did he resign? it appears to me that he resigned and is now seeking to take money out of the club which it can ill afford. commenst please
tyker
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8:41am Mon 8 Feb 10
macca1969
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8:44am Mon 8 Feb 10
thebrownsauceman wrote:Sorry you are WRONG. I have never slagged off city fans, as true city fans would never ever slag Stuart or question his integrity. Yes question his abilities as a coach, but slag him and question his status in the city hearts no. These are not city fans at heart at all as if they cannot respect the man for what he did achieve whilst at city, they cannot support the club. I'm not blinkered i knew before christmas this was going to be the outcome the man had no luck at all. Its a fine line between success and failure and after our poor start, i saw a City team for the first time in seasons compete in every single game up to Dale at home. We had terrible decisions against us even saturday we should have had a blatent pen at 0-0, we had our most experienced striker injured all season and the weight of expectation at our great club was too much for the young lads to bear on their own. McCall then showed his inexperience as a coach by trying to make things happen, to turn it around and started to tinker with team formations and players positions and this brought the loss of form and lack of confidence spread through the team. If the decisions and a bit of luck had gone our way i don't think we would be here now, alas it didn't and i respect Stuarts decision to go and support it and still believe no true City man can diss or slag the man. I always knew he would know when it was right to go and he has proved this he didn't need the bile posted or character assasination posted by so called city supporters just our support till the end. It is still a sad day but our club although wounded and hurt will move on and i with many other so called Stuart McCall fans will continue to show the same support to the club we love and the next city boss. I will never slag off a city fan ever, but these cannot be called fans end of.
i respect mccall for leaving for the sake of the club (presuming he doesnt do another hudini and decide to stay). he is a legend AS A PLAYER. if mccall has made his decision to leave then let him do it. Do you know what i have noticed, Mccall as a manager has divided the fans (obviously not his fault) the fans are divided. whats the point in this forum all most of you do "shaun from richmand" "macca 1969" etc etc is slag each other off. theres nothing wrong with challenging opinions but none of you back it up with any facts. you all claim to be proper fans, but ask yourself this question do proper fans slag each other off left right and center
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cityd says...
6:00pm Sat 6 Feb 10