McCall's reign is over

Stuart McCall's 133-game reign as City boss is over.

McCall will officially step down on Monday when he meets joint-chairman Julian Rhodes.

But the Bantams legend has made it clear that his mind is made up.

Speaking after today's 1-0 home loss to Bury, McCall said: "It's time for somebody else to come in and take up the reins and hopefully do well.

"I've been very fortunate as a player to have had two great spells here. I've been very fortunate to have the career I've had.

"I've been honoured to be here and the support I've had from everyone has been fantastic.

"Today would have been a defining line in the season for me. If we had beaten Bury, the dream of making seventh place would have been on.

"The form has been okay, the results haven't been good enough. It's just not meant to be.

"It's really hard because I came with hopes and aspirations of fulfilling a lot of people's dreams."

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6:00pm Sat 6 Feb 10

cityd says...

thanks for trying your hardest stuart, nobody can ever take that away from you, good luck
thanks for trying your hardest stuart, nobody can ever take that away from you, good luck cityd

6:01pm Sat 6 Feb 10

albion says...

Good effort and well done in coming to the right decision.
Good luck with whatever you do.
Good effort and well done in coming to the right decision. Good luck with whatever you do. albion

6:08pm Sat 6 Feb 10

glasgow_bantam madCTID says...

Good luck Stuart, you tried your best.Now let us move on and hope we get a new manager and please JR do not appoint DW or WJ as caretaker for rest pf the season. End of an era, although i feel we have taken a backward step. New manager DEAN WINDASS. CTID
Good luck Stuart, you tried your best.Now let us move on and hope we get a new manager and please JR do not appoint DW or WJ as caretaker for rest pf the season. End of an era, although i feel we have taken a backward step. New manager DEAN WINDASS. CTID glasgow_bantam madCTID

6:22pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Paulvh says...

All the best Stuart, sorry it didn't work out. We all know you have the clubs best interests at heart.
All the best Stuart, sorry it didn't work out. We all know you have the clubs best interests at heart. Paulvh

6:23pm Sat 6 Feb 10

p1tsy says...

Stuart.

I hope you see this.

I'd like to thank you for everything you've done for Bradford City.

In three spells at the club you have shown yourself to be bcafc through and through. Your honesty, integrity and commitment will surely never be matched.

You always have been, and always will be bradford city personified. Thank you for the memories, thank you for everything you've done for the club. I'm sure nobody could have tried harder to achieve success but its typical of the man you are to recognise that its just not happening for you.

All the very best in whatever direction your career takes you next. I hope to be able to buy you a beer sometime. You've given me some fabulous memories.

Tony
Stuart. I hope you see this. I'd like to thank you for everything you've done for Bradford City. In three spells at the club you have shown yourself to be bcafc through and through. Your honesty, integrity and commitment will surely never be matched. You always have been, and always will be bradford city personified. Thank you for the memories, thank you for everything you've done for the club. I'm sure nobody could have tried harder to achieve success but its typical of the man you are to recognise that its just not happening for you. All the very best in whatever direction your career takes you next. I hope to be able to buy you a beer sometime. You've given me some fabulous memories. Tony p1tsy

6:36pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Cityman23 says...

It didn't work out for Stuart, which, for me is a source of sadness. He was one of my City 'heroes' and always was a 'Cityman. I was overjoyed when he came back to City the first time as a player and led us into the top tier of English football. He was always going to want to try his luck at City as a manager and again, I was delighted when he got his chance. Unfortunately, the continuing ramifications of the second year in the Premiership are STILL being felt ie lack of funds, after the chairman overspent back then. Stuart was 'hamstrung' by these financial constraints, as were others before him and maybe in the future too. Perhaps in addition, he was not cut out for the role but I believe he gave it his best 'shot' as manager at City. Will Stuart McCall turn into a successful manager elsewhere or is he best as a No.2 ? (as at Sheffield) Who knows, but I kind of hope he does make it elsewhere. If he doesn't , there's no shame in that!
He has his place in the City 'Hall Of Fame' of great players and that will never change. I personally, think he was the greatest ever City player, though others may disagree. Certainly, again this afternoon, more supporters were 'on his case' with obscene comments about him that were totally out of order and should shame true City supporters. Now he is out of it all, perhaps he'll expereience a mixture of relief combined with intense disappointment. He always was a 'winner' and hated to fail and generally in his playing career, he was a success. But, hopefully he won't be in the doldrums for too long. After all, there were some mitigating factors in his defence.
My very best wishes for the future to you Stuart and hopefully we'll see you back at VP in the future, visiting like all our other ex-players do from time to time. You'll be welcome!!
Now, the City board must make a wise, considered choice for SM's successor. It probably needs to be someone with more experience of management and I wish them success in their efforts to get the 'right man'.
It didn't work out for Stuart, which, for me is a source of sadness. He was one of my City 'heroes' and always was a 'Cityman. I was overjoyed when he came back to City the first time as a player and led us into the top tier of English football. He was always going to want to try his luck at City as a manager and again, I was delighted when he got his chance. Unfortunately, the continuing ramifications of the second year in the Premiership are STILL being felt ie lack of funds, after the chairman overspent back then. Stuart was 'hamstrung' by these financial constraints, as were others before him and maybe in the future too. Perhaps in addition, he was not cut out for the role but I believe he gave it his best 'shot' as manager at City. Will Stuart McCall turn into a successful manager elsewhere or is he best as a No.2 ? (as at Sheffield) Who knows, but I kind of hope he does make it elsewhere. If he doesn't , there's no shame in that! He has his place in the City 'Hall Of Fame' of great players and that will never change. I personally, think he was the greatest ever City player, though others may disagree. Certainly, again this afternoon, more supporters were 'on his case' with obscene comments about him that were totally out of order and should shame true City supporters. Now he is out of it all, perhaps he'll expereience a mixture of relief combined with intense disappointment. He always was a 'winner' and hated to fail and generally in his playing career, he was a success. But, hopefully he won't be in the doldrums for too long. After all, there were some mitigating factors in his defence. My very best wishes for the future to you Stuart and hopefully we'll see you back at VP in the future, visiting like all our other ex-players do from time to time. You'll be welcome!! Now, the City board must make a wise, considered choice for SM's successor. It probably needs to be someone with more experience of management and I wish them success in their efforts to get the 'right man'. Cityman23

6:37pm Sat 6 Feb 10

cibasteve says...

When Stuart came back to the club as manager I believe he said his heart had ruled his head in making the decision to take on the managers role.
He put all his heart and sole into the job and it's not worked out for him.
I believe his head is now ruling his heart and telling him it's time to go.
Sad times to see a legend on the field not succeed as a manager but whatever did happen in his time as a manager we all know he tried his best.
Good luck for the rest of your career Macca.
When Stuart came back to the club as manager I believe he said his heart had ruled his head in making the decision to take on the managers role. He put all his heart and sole into the job and it's not worked out for him. I believe his head is now ruling his heart and telling him it's time to go. Sad times to see a legend on the field not succeed as a manager but whatever did happen in his time as a manager we all know he tried his best. Good luck for the rest of your career Macca. cibasteve

6:38pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Halifax Bantam says...

Best decision for both parties.
Thanks for trying SM, shame it didnt work out. Luck doesnt always favour those who deserve it. YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A LEGEND AT THE CLUB.
Best decision for both parties. Thanks for trying SM, shame it didnt work out. Luck doesnt always favour those who deserve it. YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A LEGEND AT THE CLUB. Halifax Bantam

6:48pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Pablo says...

Stuart's problem was his inexperienced back -up staff. Someone like Terry Dolan should have worked with him.

What's Paul Jewell doing these days?
Stuart's problem was his inexperienced back -up staff. Someone like Terry Dolan should have worked with him. What's Paul Jewell doing these days? Pablo

6:53pm Sat 6 Feb 10

balbrigganfc says...

As previously predicted Stuart would resign after todays game.

Totally gutted to see him go, as the team were playing some good football, but unfortunately not getting the results they deserved to get.

Good Luck Stu, sick to see you go.
As previously predicted Stuart would resign after todays game. Totally gutted to see him go, as the team were playing some good football, but unfortunately not getting the results they deserved to get. Good Luck Stu, sick to see you go. balbrigganfc

6:53pm Sat 6 Feb 10

wja1966 says...

Glad he's made the right decision its come a year too late but he's a city legend and i hope he goes on to succeed at whatever he does. The new manager who comes in has enough time now to see who is up to scratch or who is not but i have a feeling the managers job will go to wetherall unfortunately
Glad he's made the right decision its come a year too late but he's a city legend and i hope he goes on to succeed at whatever he does. The new manager who comes in has enough time now to see who is up to scratch or who is not but i have a feeling the managers job will go to wetherall unfortunately wja1966

7:02pm Sat 6 Feb 10

djmoulson says...

I'm sat here with a lump in my throat, after listening to Stuart's interview on The Pulse... where he nearly broke down, such has been the desire for HIS club to succeed and his love for the club. He is a fan first...short for fanatic, of which he is where City are concerned. I'm gutted that he hasn't succeeded as nobody will throw as much heart into the roll.

Thank you Stuart for all your efforts, you are most definately still a LEGEND at this club, and I too would gladly buy you a pint as a small token of my gratitude for all you've done for City. No man is bigger than the club but you come close, good luck in what ever you choose to do. CTID
I'm sat here with a lump in my throat, after listening to Stuart's interview on The Pulse... where he nearly broke down, such has been the desire for HIS club to succeed and his love for the club. He is a fan first...short for fanatic, of which he is where City are concerned. I'm gutted that he hasn't succeeded as nobody will throw as much heart into the roll. Thank you Stuart for all your efforts, you are most definately still a LEGEND at this club, and I too would gladly buy you a pint as a small token of my gratitude for all you've done for City. No man is bigger than the club but you come close, good luck in what ever you choose to do. CTID djmoulson

7:04pm Sat 6 Feb 10

thecitygent says...

Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?
Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something? thecitygent

7:17pm Sat 6 Feb 10

mrshower says...

If this is true then I hope all those traitors out there are pleased with themselves. I am speaking of shaun from richmond and his dodgy mates. How anyone can insult stuart mccall is beyond me it should be a hanging offence.
We had 16 shots to their 3 today if one had gone in then he would not have resigned. All we need is a loan player at centre half then we will be back to winning ways.
TRAITORS OUT and confiscate their season tickets.
If this is true then I hope all those traitors out there are pleased with themselves. I am speaking of shaun from richmond and his dodgy mates. How anyone can insult stuart mccall is beyond me it should be a hanging offence. We had 16 shots to their 3 today if one had gone in then he would not have resigned. All we need is a loan player at centre half then we will be back to winning ways. TRAITORS OUT and confiscate their season tickets. mrshower

7:18pm Sat 6 Feb 10

The General 82-86 says...

This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans .
I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end .
i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event

Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward
What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for .

Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied
We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !!

But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick
Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .
This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well . The General 82-86

7:20pm Sat 6 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

thecitygent wrote:
Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?
Personally i think that says it all. Its a shame he can't go and do one as well, when things seemed yo be on an upward curve you couldn't get rid of him and his silly grin but as soon as things got tough the money and support dried up and he stuck Stuart in the firing line to take the flak
[quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?[/p][/quote]Personally i think that says it all. Its a shame he can't go and do one as well, when things seemed yo be on an upward curve you couldn't get rid of him and his silly grin but as soon as things got tough the money and support dried up and he stuck Stuart in the firing line to take the flak macca1969

7:24pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Pablo says...

Has Lawn gone as well, then?
Has Lawn gone as well, then? Pablo

7:26pm Sat 6 Feb 10

webess says...

Very sad to see Stu go and hope things workout for both him and the club.

Went to todays game. Best team lost...again.
Very sad to see Stu go and hope things workout for both him and the club. Went to todays game. Best team lost...again. webess

7:30pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

Pablo wrote:
Has Lawn gone as well, then?
why would he go, he as given mccall a budget bigger than anyone in league 2 last year and still couldnt do anything with it, CTID, get a life
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: Has Lawn gone as well, then?[/p][/quote]why would he go, he as given mccall a budget bigger than anyone in league 2 last year and still couldnt do anything with it, CTID, get a life 2storey

7:33pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

Pablo wrote:
Stuart's problem was his inexperienced back -up staff. Someone like Terry Dolan should have worked with him. What's Paul Jewell doing these days?
he was offered help by the board and wouldnt take it, as mcall as a head bigger than the sunwin stand and thought he could do it alone, how wrong was he
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: Stuart's problem was his inexperienced back -up staff. Someone like Terry Dolan should have worked with him. What's Paul Jewell doing these days?[/p][/quote]he was offered help by the board and wouldnt take it, as mcall as a head bigger than the sunwin stand and thought he could do it alone, how wrong was he 2storey

7:33pm Sat 6 Feb 10

yorkiewyke says...

Heard interview on Radio Leeds very sad day for City. But in a results based industry I suppose it had to happen the way Stuarts luck (or lack of it) had been running
Heard interview on Radio Leeds very sad day for City. But in a results based industry I suppose it had to happen the way Stuarts luck (or lack of it) had been running yorkiewyke

7:47pm Sat 6 Feb 10

phil66 says...

Sad day...Just read this on the BfB website...
I’ve never written for a website before and I don’t intend to again, but today I’ve got my blood pumping and the reason for this is the phrase I keep hearing “McCall is a legend as a player.”

As a Bradford City player no player has ever equalled what Stuart McCall achieved for this club and probably no one ever will. In saying this I do not include simply his performances as a player in two spells for the club but what he has done as a man. A man of dignity and character.

I have stood next Stuart McCall at Fire Memorial services for the best part of twenty-five years, I’ve had him shake my hand and tell be two decades after when he was a young man as was I that he still feels for my loss and I’ve looked into his eyes as he had said it to me and I have seen an empathy. I’ve talked to him about the pain of his own father’s injuries and shown the same eyes back to him.

This means more to me than promotions and the number of times he kicked a ball for the club and the number of wins and losses under his stewardship.

This is what legends are made of.

I read this phrase “Legend as a player” and it makes me sick to the pit of my stomach. It makes me more sick than a thousand defeats ever will.

I talk to my friends who rationalise with me saying that people do not have my experiences and that people only mean that they respect him as a player, but not as a manager and I take a drink and hear what they say but I do not agree.

What does that mean anyway? That they support Stuart McCall when he is a player who they can cheer in the best of times but when he is a manager and things are going badly they do not consider him worth cheering? Worse that they consider him worth abusing?

They talk as if McCall himself will shake them by the hand and take a drink with them saying “Thanks for your support when we were going up and I fully understand why you had to treat me like garbage as a manager later on because I was not pleasing you.”

There is no player, there is no manager. There is just a man.

A young man who supported us at the worst time in our lives and gets everything he has done for us sliced into pieces on the basis of how much glory some “fans” think they can get out of it and how much glory they can feel reflected from it. As if the balance of a man’s legend could be weighed up by how much success he brought to you. What is this phrase “Legend” that gets thrown around these days anyway? It is one of those modern society words that means “How much I can get out of it” and “How good is it for me.”

People tell me that we can’t keep a manager on sentiment and I tell them that I’m not talking about a manager or result, I’m talking about a man and the decent treatment of a man. A man who deserves so much more than a set of brackets that say which parts of his life you like and which you don’t.

A good man, and for what he has done for this football club, a legend.

Full stop.

Well said General and i'd back you up mate, you know me too.
Sad day...Just read this on the BfB website... I’ve never written for a website before and I don’t intend to again, but today I’ve got my blood pumping and the reason for this is the phrase I keep hearing “McCall is a legend as a player.” As a Bradford City player no player has ever equalled what Stuart McCall achieved for this club and probably no one ever will. In saying this I do not include simply his performances as a player in two spells for the club but what he has done as a man. A man of dignity and character. I have stood next Stuart McCall at Fire Memorial services for the best part of twenty-five years, I’ve had him shake my hand and tell be two decades after when he was a young man as was I that he still feels for my loss and I’ve looked into his eyes as he had said it to me and I have seen an empathy. I’ve talked to him about the pain of his own father’s injuries and shown the same eyes back to him. This means more to me than promotions and the number of times he kicked a ball for the club and the number of wins and losses under his stewardship. This is what legends are made of. I read this phrase “Legend as a player” and it makes me sick to the pit of my stomach. It makes me more sick than a thousand defeats ever will. I talk to my friends who rationalise with me saying that people do not have my experiences and that people only mean that they respect him as a player, but not as a manager and I take a drink and hear what they say but I do not agree. What does that mean anyway? That they support Stuart McCall when he is a player who they can cheer in the best of times but when he is a manager and things are going badly they do not consider him worth cheering? Worse that they consider him worth abusing? They talk as if McCall himself will shake them by the hand and take a drink with them saying “Thanks for your support when we were going up and I fully understand why you had to treat me like garbage as a manager later on because I was not pleasing you.” There is no player, there is no manager. There is just a man. A young man who supported us at the worst time in our lives and gets everything he has done for us sliced into pieces on the basis of how much glory some “fans” think they can get out of it and how much glory they can feel reflected from it. As if the balance of a man’s legend could be weighed up by how much success he brought to you. What is this phrase “Legend” that gets thrown around these days anyway? It is one of those modern society words that means “How much I can get out of it” and “How good is it for me.” People tell me that we can’t keep a manager on sentiment and I tell them that I’m not talking about a manager or result, I’m talking about a man and the decent treatment of a man. A man who deserves so much more than a set of brackets that say which parts of his life you like and which you don’t. A good man, and for what he has done for this football club, a legend. Full stop. Well said General and i'd back you up mate, you know me too. phil66

7:54pm Sat 6 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

2storey wrote:
The General 82-86 wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .
Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management
You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS,
HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiot
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The General 82-86[/bold] wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .[/p][/quote]Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management[/p][/quote]You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS, HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiot macca1969

7:58pm Sat 6 Feb 10

kazza4city says...

Dear Stuart,

Thanks for trying your hardest. You will always be a legend as a player at Valley Parade but as a manager you have just not had that little bit of luck which you need to be successful. All the best for the future.

Up the Bantams.
Dear Stuart, Thanks for trying your hardest. You will always be a legend as a player at Valley Parade but as a manager you have just not had that little bit of luck which you need to be successful. All the best for the future. Up the Bantams. kazza4city

7:59pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Lawn for ever says...

thecitygent wrote:
Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?
I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID
[quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?[/p][/quote]I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID Lawn for ever

8:01pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

macca1969 wrote:
thecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?
Personally i think that says it all. Its a shame he can't go and do one as well, when things seemed yo be on an upward curve you couldn't get rid of him and his silly grin but as soon as things got tough the money and support dried up and he stuck Stuart in the firing line to take the flak
mccall wont be going empty handed believe me, he will be getting some kind of payout, just so he can squeeze every bit of monery he can get out of city
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?[/p][/quote]Personally i think that says it all. Its a shame he can't go and do one as well, when things seemed yo be on an upward curve you couldn't get rid of him and his silly grin but as soon as things got tough the money and support dried up and he stuck Stuart in the firing line to take the flak[/p][/quote]mccall wont be going empty handed believe me, he will be getting some kind of payout, just so he can squeeze every bit of monery he can get out of city 2storey

8:11pm Sat 6 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

2storey wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
thecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?
Personally i think that says it all. Its a shame he can't go and do one as well, when things seemed yo be on an upward curve you couldn't get rid of him and his silly grin but as soon as things got tough the money and support dried up and he stuck Stuart in the firing line to take the flak
mccall wont be going empty handed believe me, he will be getting some kind of payout, just so he can squeeze every bit of monery he can get out of city
You talk garbage he will and only ever has had the best interests of City at heart. If he does take money it will probably be some of his money that he himself put into the club you ignorant moran. If he was squeeze every bit of money out of the club why did he take a pay cut which he himself offered not the board.
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?[/p][/quote]Personally i think that says it all. Its a shame he can't go and do one as well, when things seemed yo be on an upward curve you couldn't get rid of him and his silly grin but as soon as things got tough the money and support dried up and he stuck Stuart in the firing line to take the flak[/p][/quote]mccall wont be going empty handed believe me, he will be getting some kind of payout, just so he can squeeze every bit of monery he can get out of city[/p][/quote]You talk garbage he will and only ever has had the best interests of City at heart. If he does take money it will probably be some of his money that he himself put into the club you ignorant moran. If he was squeeze every bit of money out of the club why did he take a pay cut which he himself offered not the board. macca1969

8:12pm Sat 6 Feb 10

thecitygent says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
thecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?
I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID
Are you 'Mr' Lawn in disguise or just high on the wakky baccy?
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?[/p][/quote]I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID[/p][/quote]Are you 'Mr' Lawn in disguise or just high on the wakky baccy? thecitygent

8:12pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Jonbantam says...

Thanks for your efforts Stuart it was very sad to see you applauding us at the end and basically telling us that was it. You remain the legend you truly are and I always admired the honesty and hard work you put into your whole bcfc playing and managerial career. I wish you the very best of luck in your future whatever you decide to do next. Please ignore the idiots who abused you today they are totally clueless! Thanks again Stuart McCall always a City legend CTID!
Thanks for your efforts Stuart it was very sad to see you applauding us at the end and basically telling us that was it. You remain the legend you truly are and I always admired the honesty and hard work you put into your whole bcfc playing and managerial career. I wish you the very best of luck in your future whatever you decide to do next. Please ignore the idiots who abused you today they are totally clueless! Thanks again Stuart McCall always a City legend CTID! Jonbantam

8:16pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Lawn for ever says...

macca1969 wrote:
2storey wrote:
The General 82-86 wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .
Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management
You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS, HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiot
i agree with i person that your talking aload of rubbish to if you so intrested in figures where you getting yours from fact or your own emagination. its a known fact that mccall has had the best of everything in league 2 stadium,fans and board over his 3 year shot at managing us which should have ended last year like mccall said he would but didnt. i did like Mccall as a player but NOT as a manager
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The General 82-86[/bold] wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .[/p][/quote]Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management[/p][/quote]You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS, HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiot[/p][/quote]i agree with i person that your talking aload of rubbish to if you so intrested in figures where you getting yours from fact or your own emagination. its a known fact that mccall has had the best of everything in league 2 stadium,fans and board over his 3 year shot at managing us which should have ended last year like mccall said he would but didnt. i did like Mccall as a player but NOT as a manager Lawn for ever

8:17pm Sat 6 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

2storey wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
2storey wrote:
The General 82-86 wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .
Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management
You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS, HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiot
being a true city fan i picked the phone up and spoke to lawn to air my issues, and he was more than happy to speak to me, try and do that yourself moran, if you call yourself a fan
And you believe everything he tells you do you muppet. Remember it was him exactly 12 months ago that gave mccall a new contract and then panicked after the Bournemouth match to try and talk mccall out of it. Mark Lawn is no better than a politician time will tell and time will show. I,ve seen it all before and yes i call myself a fan one who could hardly speak as i was hoarse after shouting for and supporting my team today, my team that outplayed second in the table for the second time in 2 weeks. The only thing missing for city was luck
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The General 82-86[/bold] wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .[/p][/quote]Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management[/p][/quote]You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS, HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiot[/p][/quote]being a true city fan i picked the phone up and spoke to lawn to air my issues, and he was more than happy to speak to me, try and do that yourself moran, if you call yourself a fan[/p][/quote]And you believe everything he tells you do you muppet. Remember it was him exactly 12 months ago that gave mccall a new contract and then panicked after the Bournemouth match to try and talk mccall out of it. Mark Lawn is no better than a politician time will tell and time will show. I,ve seen it all before and yes i call myself a fan one who could hardly speak as i was hoarse after shouting for and supporting my team today, my team that outplayed second in the table for the second time in 2 weeks. The only thing missing for city was luck macca1969

8:19pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

macca1969 wrote:
2storey wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
thecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?
Personally i think that says it all. Its a shame he can't go and do one as well, when things seemed yo be on an upward curve you couldn't get rid of him and his silly grin but as soon as things got tough the money and support dried up and he stuck Stuart in the firing line to take the flak
mccall wont be going empty handed believe me, he will be getting some kind of payout, just so he can squeeze every bit of monery he can get out of city
You talk garbage he will and only ever has had the best interests of City at heart. If he does take money it will probably be some of his money that he himself put into the club you ignorant moran. If he was squeeze every bit of money out of the club why did he take a pay cut which he himself offered not the board.
mccall put money into the club, get a life, and the reason he took a paycut is he was on the highest wage in league 2 and knew he wouldnt get any better anywhere else, were do you think he is going now Rangers youth team
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?[/p][/quote]Personally i think that says it all. Its a shame he can't go and do one as well, when things seemed yo be on an upward curve you couldn't get rid of him and his silly grin but as soon as things got tough the money and support dried up and he stuck Stuart in the firing line to take the flak[/p][/quote]mccall wont be going empty handed believe me, he will be getting some kind of payout, just so he can squeeze every bit of monery he can get out of city[/p][/quote]You talk garbage he will and only ever has had the best interests of City at heart. If he does take money it will probably be some of his money that he himself put into the club you ignorant moran. If he was squeeze every bit of money out of the club why did he take a pay cut which he himself offered not the board.[/p][/quote]mccall put money into the club, get a life, and the reason he took a paycut is he was on the highest wage in league 2 and knew he wouldnt get any better anywhere else, were do you think he is going now Rangers youth team 2storey

8:19pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Lawn for ever says...

kazza4city wrote:
Dear Stuart, Thanks for trying your hardest. You will always be a legend as a player at Valley Parade but as a manager you have just not had that little bit of luck which you need to be successful. All the best for the future. Up the Bantams.
good look with that one he dosnt know how to use a computer "sorry"
[quote][p][bold]kazza4city[/bold] wrote: Dear Stuart, Thanks for trying your hardest. You will always be a legend as a player at Valley Parade but as a manager you have just not had that little bit of luck which you need to be successful. All the best for the future. Up the Bantams.[/p][/quote]good look with that one he dosnt know how to use a computer "sorry" Lawn for ever

8:23pm Sat 6 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
2storey wrote:
The General 82-86 wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .
Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management
You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS, HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiot
i agree with i person that your talking aload of rubbish to if you so intrested in figures where you getting yours from fact or your own emagination. its a known fact that mccall has had the best of everything in league 2 stadium,fans and board over his 3 year shot at managing us which should have ended last year like mccall said he would but didnt. i did like Mccall as a player but NOT as a manager
Where do i quote figures i believe i said i'd guess that only a small amount separtes 10 clubs. As for Bury work it out youself 4000 paying nearly 20 quid against 11000 thousand 100 pound a year seats. Our stadium is rented at the highest cost to any club outside the premier league. As for Bishop when he signed last seaon on a new deal the details were released in the press with a local buissness man claiming to helping the club by paying his wages. CHECK IT OUT
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The General 82-86[/bold] wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .[/p][/quote]Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management[/p][/quote]You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS, HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiot[/p][/quote]i agree with i person that your talking aload of rubbish to if you so intrested in figures where you getting yours from fact or your own emagination. its a known fact that mccall has had the best of everything in league 2 stadium,fans and board over his 3 year shot at managing us which should have ended last year like mccall said he would but didnt. i did like Mccall as a player but NOT as a manager[/p][/quote]Where do i quote figures i believe i said i'd guess that only a small amount separtes 10 clubs. As for Bury work it out youself 4000 paying nearly 20 quid against 11000 thousand 100 pound a year seats. Our stadium is rented at the highest cost to any club outside the premier league. As for Bishop when he signed last seaon on a new deal the details were released in the press with a local buissness man claiming to helping the club by paying his wages. CHECK IT OUT macca1969

8:26pm Sat 6 Feb 10

matthewbcfcwilkinson says...

Bye stuart thanks for everything you've done for us, your always going to be a legend at this club. Ive been lucky enough to get to three matches this season(due to work havnt been able to go much) and was lucky enough to see 3 victorys (jpt notts co, port vale and league hereford) must be a good luck charm, shame i couldnt ge to more lol
Bye stuart thanks for everything you've done for us, your always going to be a legend at this club. Ive been lucky enough to get to three matches this season(due to work havnt been able to go much) and was lucky enough to see 3 victorys (jpt notts co, port vale and league hereford) must be a good luck charm, shame i couldnt ge to more lol matthewbcfcwilkinson

8:27pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Lawn for ever says...

thecitygent wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
thecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?
I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID
Are you 'Mr' Lawn in disguise or just high on the wakky baccy?
i wish i was half the man he is he`s one of the best things that happend to this club which is more that i can say about mccall becoming manager CTID
[quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?[/p][/quote]I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID[/p][/quote]Are you 'Mr' Lawn in disguise or just high on the wakky baccy?[/p][/quote]i wish i was half the man he is he`s one of the best things that happend to this club which is more that i can say about mccall becoming manager CTID Lawn for ever

8:28pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

macca1969 wrote:
2storey wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
2storey wrote:
The General 82-86 wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .
Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management
You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS, HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiot
being a true city fan i picked the phone up and spoke to lawn to air my issues, and he was more than happy to speak to me, try and do that yourself moran, if you call yourself a fan
And you believe everything he tells you do you muppet. Remember it was him exactly 12 months ago that gave mccall a new contract and then panicked after the Bournemouth match to try and talk mccall out of it. Mark Lawn is no better than a politician time will tell and time will show. I,ve seen it all before and yes i call myself a fan one who could hardly speak as i was hoarse after shouting for and supporting my team today, my team that outplayed second in the table for the second time in 2 weeks. The only thing missing for city was luck
yes but this is the 3rd season with no luck, i agree mccall wa a good player but in your heart you know he is no manager, he is getting the players and then he cannt manage them, i.e look at barry conlon, o'grady, just to mention 2
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The General 82-86[/bold] wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .[/p][/quote]Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management[/p][/quote]You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS, HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiot[/p][/quote]being a true city fan i picked the phone up and spoke to lawn to air my issues, and he was more than happy to speak to me, try and do that yourself moran, if you call yourself a fan[/p][/quote]And you believe everything he tells you do you muppet. Remember it was him exactly 12 months ago that gave mccall a new contract and then panicked after the Bournemouth match to try and talk mccall out of it. Mark Lawn is no better than a politician time will tell and time will show. I,ve seen it all before and yes i call myself a fan one who could hardly speak as i was hoarse after shouting for and supporting my team today, my team that outplayed second in the table for the second time in 2 weeks. The only thing missing for city was luck[/p][/quote]yes but this is the 3rd season with no luck, i agree mccall wa a good player but in your heart you know he is no manager, he is getting the players and then he cannt manage them, i.e look at barry conlon, o'grady, just to mention 2 2storey

8:29pm Sat 6 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

2storey wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
2storey wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
thecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?
Personally i think that says it all. Its a shame he can't go and do one as well, when things seemed yo be on an upward curve you couldn't get rid of him and his silly grin but as soon as things got tough the money and support dried up and he stuck Stuart in the firing line to take the flak
mccall wont be going empty handed believe me, he will be getting some kind of payout, just so he can squeeze every bit of monery he can get out of city
You talk garbage he will and only ever has had the best interests of City at heart. If he does take money it will probably be some of his money that he himself put into the club you ignorant moran. If he was squeeze every bit of money out of the club why did he take a pay cut which he himself offered not the board.
mccall put money into the club, get a life, and the reason he took a paycut is he was on the highest wage in league 2 and knew he wouldnt get any better anywhere else, were do you think he is going now Rangers youth team
Well if he has no money tied up in the club and i admit this was only a rumour that some were putting around as a reason why he hadn't be sacked then i would expect Stuart to walk away and take nothing. Saying this you don't know that he would so why disrespect the guy you are clearly ignorant of the mans meaning to this club and its fans. I don't know what he will do now but where ever he goes i hope he is a success and doesn't have to be abused by idiots like you. GROW UP YOU PRAT
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?[/p][/quote]Personally i think that says it all. Its a shame he can't go and do one as well, when things seemed yo be on an upward curve you couldn't get rid of him and his silly grin but as soon as things got tough the money and support dried up and he stuck Stuart in the firing line to take the flak[/p][/quote]mccall wont be going empty handed believe me, he will be getting some kind of payout, just so he can squeeze every bit of monery he can get out of city[/p][/quote]You talk garbage he will and only ever has had the best interests of City at heart. If he does take money it will probably be some of his money that he himself put into the club you ignorant moran. If he was squeeze every bit of money out of the club why did he take a pay cut which he himself offered not the board.[/p][/quote]mccall put money into the club, get a life, and the reason he took a paycut is he was on the highest wage in league 2 and knew he wouldnt get any better anywhere else, were do you think he is going now Rangers youth team[/p][/quote]Well if he has no money tied up in the club and i admit this was only a rumour that some were putting around as a reason why he hadn't be sacked then i would expect Stuart to walk away and take nothing. Saying this you don't know that he would so why disrespect the guy you are clearly ignorant of the mans meaning to this club and its fans. I don't know what he will do now but where ever he goes i hope he is a success and doesn't have to be abused by idiots like you. GROW UP YOU PRAT macca1969

8:31pm Sat 6 Feb 10

shaun from richmond says...

McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!!
But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!!
I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!!
SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!!
McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!! shaun from richmond

8:33pm Sat 6 Feb 10

gspot says...

absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!!
true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best.
good luck in whatever you do in the future!!!
i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...
absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it... gspot

8:33pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Lawn for ever says...

ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTID
ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTID Lawn for ever

8:38pm Sat 6 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

2storey wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
2storey wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
2storey wrote:
The General 82-86 wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .
Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management
You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS, HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiot
being a true city fan i picked the phone up and spoke to lawn to air my issues, and he was more than happy to speak to me, try and do that yourself moran, if you call yourself a fan
And you believe everything he tells you do you muppet. Remember it was him exactly 12 months ago that gave mccall a new contract and then panicked after the Bournemouth match to try and talk mccall out of it. Mark Lawn is no better than a politician time will tell and time will show. I,ve seen it all before and yes i call myself a fan one who could hardly speak as i was hoarse after shouting for and supporting my team today, my team that outplayed second in the table for the second time in 2 weeks. The only thing missing for city was luck
yes but this is the 3rd season with no luck, i agree mccall wa a good player but in your heart you know he is no manager, he is getting the players and then he cannt manage them, i.e look at barry conlon, o'grady, just to mention 2
I have made my feelings know on McCall and i won't change them ask waynus. All i will say is that we won't attract a top manager and i'll wager now that within 2 years we will have fans shouting for the new mans head. All is not black and white at valley parade and it is still unravelling. McCall made plenty of mistakes and i was accused of wearing rose tinted specs in my defence of him but i say to you at there that those who think the only problem at valley parade is the manager are the one wearing rose tinted specs. You have all got what you want so why diss the man at least try and respect him for the fact he tried and in your opinions quit when he should. Remember Lawn lovers Lawn also begged him to stay and asked the fans to sway him so lets not abuse a legend lets respect the man at least
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The General 82-86[/bold] wrote: This is a very sad day indeed for most genuine City fans . I sit very close to the dugouts and you could see stuart looking round taking it all in it at that moment we all said this is it and after he walked on the pitch you knew this was the end . i would like to mention a few points around todays unhappy event Mr lawn you came into this club saying ive cleared all the debts and lets go forward What you should have said is that ITS A LOAN and all the delph money is mine thankyou and i love my own publicty he has a lot to answer for . Alot on here who are very much the new fickle 3 season fan £6 brigade think we are a much bigger club than what we are this season we have signed a plumber ,hairdresser and a shelfstacker and you thought we would go up ,come on get real and get in reality the mans hands were tied We lost today and they had one shot on target sums are season up !! But a few on here YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE will be think this is great day and the day we go forward but what you morons dont realise is that we have just lost to the club the one guy who cared more than you will ever know i hope you are all happy you have now got your way ,but again you are the same people who will be calling for the new managers head in 12 months because its just the way you are fickle and thick Good luck stu i for one will not be there on saturday and i hope lawn walks away as well .[/p][/quote]Get real you idiot, mccall has had the biggest budget in the league last year and 4th biggest this year, come to terms its nothing to do with budgets and the board,its all down to very poor management[/p][/quote]You got proof on the budget or is it just Mark silly grin Lawn's magical figures that he seems to pluck out of thin air. No one has released what their budget is this season as it hasn't ended and so the accounts have not been done. Its just heresay and i'd guess that they is less than 50 grande separing ours and 10 other clubs. We might have bigger gates than Bury but generate less income with bigger overheads ie the ground on top of that Bury have some local buissness man who pays Bishopa 3 grande a week wages that would account for 5 of our players alone WILLO,NEILSON,EVANS, HANSON,BATESON will not probably be paid that collectively but then again you believe all the spin Lawn makes. He has made mistakes but he has forgot more about football than you will ever know so whos the idiot[/p][/quote]being a true city fan i picked the phone up and spoke to lawn to air my issues, and he was more than happy to speak to me, try and do that yourself moran, if you call yourself a fan[/p][/quote]And you believe everything he tells you do you muppet. Remember it was him exactly 12 months ago that gave mccall a new contract and then panicked after the Bournemouth match to try and talk mccall out of it. Mark Lawn is no better than a politician time will tell and time will show. I,ve seen it all before and yes i call myself a fan one who could hardly speak as i was hoarse after shouting for and supporting my team today, my team that outplayed second in the table for the second time in 2 weeks. The only thing missing for city was luck[/p][/quote]yes but this is the 3rd season with no luck, i agree mccall wa a good player but in your heart you know he is no manager, he is getting the players and then he cannt manage them, i.e look at barry conlon, o'grady, just to mention 2[/p][/quote]I have made my feelings know on McCall and i won't change them ask waynus. All i will say is that we won't attract a top manager and i'll wager now that within 2 years we will have fans shouting for the new mans head. All is not black and white at valley parade and it is still unravelling. McCall made plenty of mistakes and i was accused of wearing rose tinted specs in my defence of him but i say to you at there that those who think the only problem at valley parade is the manager are the one wearing rose tinted specs. You have all got what you want so why diss the man at least try and respect him for the fact he tried and in your opinions quit when he should. Remember Lawn lovers Lawn also begged him to stay and asked the fans to sway him so lets not abuse a legend lets respect the man at least macca1969

8:38pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Lawn for ever says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!!
Well said there is somone with some sens after all
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!![/p][/quote]Well said there is somone with some sens after all Lawn for ever

8:40pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

gspot wrote:
absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...
jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
[quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...[/p][/quote]jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando 2storey

8:45pm Sat 6 Feb 10

thecitygent says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
thecitygent wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
thecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?
I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID
Are you 'Mr' Lawn in disguise or just high on the wakky baccy?
i wish i was half the man he is he`s one of the best things that happend to this club which is more that i can say about mccall becoming manager CTID
Well if his weight loss plan goes to plan why don't you share his trousers and be part of the success story?
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?[/p][/quote]I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID[/p][/quote]Are you 'Mr' Lawn in disguise or just high on the wakky baccy?[/p][/quote]i wish i was half the man he is he`s one of the best things that happend to this club which is more that i can say about mccall becoming manager CTID[/p][/quote]Well if his weight loss plan goes to plan why don't you share his trousers and be part of the success story? thecitygent

8:47pm Sat 6 Feb 10

shaun from richmond says...

2storey wrote:
gspot wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...
jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!!
OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!!
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...[/p][/quote]jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando[/p][/quote]I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!! shaun from richmond

8:48pm Sat 6 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTID
What? Are you for real, who said anything about hating him, i know he invested in the club or should i say loaned money to the club,(wonder what the interest rate is) what i'm saying is that i don't believe a word he says he is like gordon brown and david cameron all promising everything and delivering what? You blame Stu so answer why was it Lawn gave him another 2 year deal when we had achieved nothing,why did he talk Stuart out of quitting by asking the fans to more or less beg him to stay? Stuart is hung out to dry for his mistakes why can't Lawn take any criticism. Cuts both ways in my eyes he made the decision to employ him offer another contract beg him to stay mouth off about back to back promotions but in your eyes can do no wrong. WHATEVER
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTID[/p][/quote]What? Are you for real, who said anything about hating him, i know he invested in the club or should i say loaned money to the club,(wonder what the interest rate is) what i'm saying is that i don't believe a word he says he is like gordon brown and david cameron all promising everything and delivering what? You blame Stu so answer why was it Lawn gave him another 2 year deal when we had achieved nothing,why did he talk Stuart out of quitting by asking the fans to more or less beg him to stay? Stuart is hung out to dry for his mistakes why can't Lawn take any criticism. Cuts both ways in my eyes he made the decision to employ him offer another contract beg him to stay mouth off about back to back promotions but in your eyes can do no wrong. WHATEVER macca1969

8:51pm Sat 6 Feb 10

bantambelle says...

I started supporting city in 1986. i'm gutted after listening to him on radio leeds, feel really down. we've had loads of highs and lows as city fans and for me this is one of the lowest. should we have to start a managerial hunt on monday i don't think we'll find anyone whose footballing dream was to manage bradford city, no-one. stuart only ever wants what is best for our football club and i think he's a star. i want to put out a plea to our owners that he should be invited to stay on in some capacity such as club ambassador. stuart - change your mind, 57 points to play for!!
I started supporting city in 1986. i'm gutted after listening to him on radio leeds, feel really down. we've had loads of highs and lows as city fans and for me this is one of the lowest. should we have to start a managerial hunt on monday i don't think we'll find anyone whose footballing dream was to manage bradford city, no-one. stuart only ever wants what is best for our football club and i think he's a star. i want to put out a plea to our owners that he should be invited to stay on in some capacity such as club ambassador. stuart - change your mind, 57 points to play for!! bantambelle

8:51pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Lawn for ever says...

thecitygent wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
thecitygent wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
thecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?
I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID
Are you 'Mr' Lawn in disguise or just high on the wakky baccy?
i wish i was half the man he is he`s one of the best things that happend to this club which is more that i can say about mccall becoming manager CTID
Well if his weight loss plan goes to plan why don't you share his trousers and be part of the success story?
at least theres guna be one now mcalls gone but i take it your a mccall fan so you will be surporting the team he`s going to if enyone is stupid enough to take him
[quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?[/p][/quote]I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID[/p][/quote]Are you 'Mr' Lawn in disguise or just high on the wakky baccy?[/p][/quote]i wish i was half the man he is he`s one of the best things that happend to this club which is more that i can say about mccall becoming manager CTID[/p][/quote]Well if his weight loss plan goes to plan why don't you share his trousers and be part of the success story?[/p][/quote]at least theres guna be one now mcalls gone but i take it your a mccall fan so you will be surporting the team he`s going to if enyone is stupid enough to take him Lawn for ever

8:53pm Sat 6 Feb 10

gspot says...

obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed.

oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!!
is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so.
i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.
obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league. gspot

8:54pm Sat 6 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
2storey wrote:
gspot wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...
jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!!
I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...[/p][/quote]jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando[/p][/quote]I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!![/p][/quote]I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words macca1969

8:57pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

macca1969 wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote: ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTID
What? Are you for real, who said anything about hating him, i know he invested in the club or should i say loaned money to the club,(wonder what the interest rate is) what i'm saying is that i don't believe a word he says he is like gordon brown and david cameron all promising everything and delivering what? You blame Stu so answer why was it Lawn gave him another 2 year deal when we had achieved nothing,why did he talk Stuart out of quitting by asking the fans to more or less beg him to stay? Stuart is hung out to dry for his mistakes why can't Lawn take any criticism. Cuts both ways in my eyes he made the decision to employ him offer another contract beg him to stay mouth off about back to back promotions but in your eyes can do no wrong. WHATEVER
pick the phone and speak to lawn he isnt taking anything out of the club, if you were a fan you would know there is no money to take out
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTID[/p][/quote]What? Are you for real, who said anything about hating him, i know he invested in the club or should i say loaned money to the club,(wonder what the interest rate is) what i'm saying is that i don't believe a word he says he is like gordon brown and david cameron all promising everything and delivering what? You blame Stu so answer why was it Lawn gave him another 2 year deal when we had achieved nothing,why did he talk Stuart out of quitting by asking the fans to more or less beg him to stay? Stuart is hung out to dry for his mistakes why can't Lawn take any criticism. Cuts both ways in my eyes he made the decision to employ him offer another contract beg him to stay mouth off about back to back promotions but in your eyes can do no wrong. WHATEVER[/p][/quote]pick the phone and speak to lawn he isnt taking anything out of the club, if you were a fan you would know there is no money to take out 2storey

9:00pm Sat 6 Feb 10

hew jardon says...

cheers stu,all the best.
cheers stu,all the best. hew jardon

9:01pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

macca1969 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
2storey wrote:
gspot wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...
jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!!
I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words
i know jewell very well and he has told me that he wont go back into football he doesnt need the stress and is happy living part-time in celebration, and it is nothing to do with the money as he doesnt need it now
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...[/p][/quote]jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando[/p][/quote]I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!![/p][/quote]I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words[/p][/quote]i know jewell very well and he has told me that he wont go back into football he doesnt need the stress and is happy living part-time in celebration, and it is nothing to do with the money as he doesnt need it now 2storey

9:05pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Lawn for ever says...

djmoulson wrote:
What is a 'moran'....!?!
somone that surports mccall and not bradford city like most of the people on hear aka macca and citygent
[quote][p][bold]djmoulson[/bold] wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?![/p][/quote]somone that surports mccall and not bradford city like most of the people on hear aka macca and citygent Lawn for ever

9:07pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

gspot wrote:
obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.
ok mr kay who is your choice
[quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.[/p][/quote]ok mr kay who is your choice 2storey

9:09pm Sat 6 Feb 10

mahb70 says...

It's a very sad day , with ironically our most convincing performance for weeks.Our players can't score and any slight mistake at the back seems to get punished.Today's failings are not down to Stuart and on those fine margins todays sad decision has been reached.The next manager is going to have to be blessed with a huge amount of good fortune cos he's still got a moderate budget and will have less tolerence from our impatient fans. DW til end of season is an option if we don't want to break somebody's contract .
It's a very sad day , with ironically our most convincing performance for weeks.Our players can't score and any slight mistake at the back seems to get punished.Today's failings are not down to Stuart and on those fine margins todays sad decision has been reached.The next manager is going to have to be blessed with a huge amount of good fortune cos he's still got a moderate budget and will have less tolerence from our impatient fans. DW til end of season is an option if we don't want to break somebody's contract . mahb70

9:10pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Lawn for ever says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
djmoulson wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?!
somone that surports mccall and not bradford city like most of the people on hear aka macca and citygent
let me put gspot on that list too
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djmoulson[/bold] wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?![/p][/quote]somone that surports mccall and not bradford city like most of the people on hear aka macca and citygent[/p][/quote]let me put gspot on that list too Lawn for ever

9:11pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

mahb70 wrote:
It's a very sad day , with ironically our most convincing performance for weeks.Our players can't score and any slight mistake at the back seems to get punished.Today's failings are not down to Stuart and on those fine margins todays sad decision has been reached.The next manager is going to have to be blessed with a huge amount of good fortune cos he's still got a moderate budget and will have less tolerence from our impatient fans. DW til end of season is an option if we don't want to break somebody's contract .
there is alot of managers out of work, sinnott, jacko,just 2 that spring to mind
[quote][p][bold]mahb70[/bold] wrote: It's a very sad day , with ironically our most convincing performance for weeks.Our players can't score and any slight mistake at the back seems to get punished.Today's failings are not down to Stuart and on those fine margins todays sad decision has been reached.The next manager is going to have to be blessed with a huge amount of good fortune cos he's still got a moderate budget and will have less tolerence from our impatient fans. DW til end of season is an option if we don't want to break somebody's contract .[/p][/quote]there is alot of managers out of work, sinnott, jacko,just 2 that spring to mind 2storey

9:12pm Sat 6 Feb 10

shaun from richmond says...

macca1969 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
2storey wrote:
gspot wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...
jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!!
I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words
-joinWELL LETS SAY......A SPORTSMANS BET!!
NOW THE DEAD WEIGHT OF McCALL HAS LEFT (Coaching wise I mean)....BRADFORD CITY WILL RISE!!
As for Fans calling for Coaches head........Comes with the job!! Water off a ducks back if they are any good!!
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...[/p][/quote]jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando[/p][/quote]I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!![/p][/quote]I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words[/p][/quote]-joinWELL LETS SAY......A SPORTSMANS BET!! NOW THE DEAD WEIGHT OF McCALL HAS LEFT (Coaching wise I mean)....BRADFORD CITY WILL RISE!! As for Fans calling for Coaches head........Comes with the job!! Water off a ducks back if they are any good!! shaun from richmond

9:12pm Sat 6 Feb 10

lonniejockstrap says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!!
Well Shaun, I wasn't one of those 'rose tinted' ones that made him stay. However, at least I have had the decency to treat him with respect. I don't know how old you are but I do know you are immature in the extreme. You can't even refrain from being disrespectful at this moment in time when many of us relate to Stuart not only through his superb efforts as a player during his two periods as a player for us, but we also relate with Stuart because of our shared experience of sadness and loss during the VP fire. You may or may not have been at that game which might explain to some degree your childl-like postings. I offered you the chance a few weeks ago to demonstrate what you really knew about 'coaching' and you bottled it. You and the rest who come on here and criticise McCall without being able to express any knowledge or experience of coaching make me laugh because those of us that have been there and done it can spot you a million miles away. You need to do some growing up Shaun, you have finally gotten your wish and you can start calling for the next managers head in another years time if we are not top of the league.
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!![/p][/quote]Well Shaun, I wasn't one of those 'rose tinted' ones that made him stay. However, at least I have had the decency to treat him with respect. I don't know how old you are but I do know you are immature in the extreme. You can't even refrain from being disrespectful at this moment in time when many of us relate to Stuart not only through his superb efforts as a player during his two periods as a player for us, but we also relate with Stuart because of our shared experience of sadness and loss during the VP fire. You may or may not have been at that game which might explain to some degree your childl-like postings. I offered you the chance a few weeks ago to demonstrate what you really knew about 'coaching' and you bottled it. You and the rest who come on here and criticise McCall without being able to express any knowledge or experience of coaching make me laugh because those of us that have been there and done it can spot you a million miles away. You need to do some growing up Shaun, you have finally gotten your wish and you can start calling for the next managers head in another years time if we are not top of the league. lonniejockstrap

9:17pm Sat 6 Feb 10

albion says...

djmoulson wrote:
What is a 'moran'....!?!
Usually someone from Ireland.
[quote][p][bold]djmoulson[/bold] wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?![/p][/quote]Usually someone from Ireland. albion

9:17pm Sat 6 Feb 10

mahb70 says...

...Also if we're looking to appoint now, Jim Magilton seems a better option than Dean Windass.Finally it's been a privilage to have Stuart Mccall as a player AND as our manager . He will always be our number 1 legend and has nothing to be ashamed of.We need a new hero.
...Also if we're looking to appoint now, Jim Magilton seems a better option than Dean Windass.Finally it's been a privilage to have Stuart Mccall as a player AND as our manager . He will always be our number 1 legend and has nothing to be ashamed of.We need a new hero. mahb70

9:19pm Sat 6 Feb 10

gspot says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
2storey wrote:
gspot wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...
jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!!
I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words
-joinWELL LETS SAY......A SPORTSMANS BET!! NOW THE DEAD WEIGHT OF McCALL HAS LEFT (Coaching wise I mean)....BRADFORD CITY WILL RISE!! As for Fans calling for Coaches head........Comes with the job!! Water off a ducks back if they are any good!!
please shed some light on how we will rise....and no ifs and maybes - please feel free to share some of your knowledge with us!!
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...[/p][/quote]jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando[/p][/quote]I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!![/p][/quote]I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words[/p][/quote]-joinWELL LETS SAY......A SPORTSMANS BET!! NOW THE DEAD WEIGHT OF McCALL HAS LEFT (Coaching wise I mean)....BRADFORD CITY WILL RISE!! As for Fans calling for Coaches head........Comes with the job!! Water off a ducks back if they are any good!![/p][/quote]please shed some light on how we will rise....and no ifs and maybes - please feel free to share some of your knowledge with us!! gspot

9:25pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Lawn for ever says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote: McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!!
Well Shaun, I wasn't one of those 'rose tinted' ones that made him stay. However, at least I have had the decency to treat him with respect. I don't know how old you are but I do know you are immature in the extreme. You can't even refrain from being disrespectful at this moment in time when many of us relate to Stuart not only through his superb efforts as a player during his two periods as a player for us, but we also relate with Stuart because of our shared experience of sadness and loss during the VP fire. You may or may not have been at that game which might explain to some degree your childl-like postings. I offered you the chance a few weeks ago to demonstrate what you really knew about 'coaching' and you bottled it. You and the rest who come on here and criticise McCall without being able to express any knowledge or experience of coaching make me laugh because those of us that have been there and done it can spot you a million miles away. You need to do some growing up Shaun, you have finally gotten your wish and you can start calling for the next managers head in another years time if we are not top of the league.
you dont know anything about respect you would bring the fire up just to have a go at somone and to protect mccall i was there and i have seen things that i wouldnt want anyone ells witness and mark ellis is a close fraind of the family and i know mark lawn was there that day too and put somone out so just shut your face!!!!
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!![/p][/quote]Well Shaun, I wasn't one of those 'rose tinted' ones that made him stay. However, at least I have had the decency to treat him with respect. I don't know how old you are but I do know you are immature in the extreme. You can't even refrain from being disrespectful at this moment in time when many of us relate to Stuart not only through his superb efforts as a player during his two periods as a player for us, but we also relate with Stuart because of our shared experience of sadness and loss during the VP fire. You may or may not have been at that game which might explain to some degree your childl-like postings. I offered you the chance a few weeks ago to demonstrate what you really knew about 'coaching' and you bottled it. You and the rest who come on here and criticise McCall without being able to express any knowledge or experience of coaching make me laugh because those of us that have been there and done it can spot you a million miles away. You need to do some growing up Shaun, you have finally gotten your wish and you can start calling for the next managers head in another years time if we are not top of the league.[/p][/quote]you dont know anything about respect you would bring the fire up just to have a go at somone and to protect mccall i was there and i have seen things that i wouldnt want anyone ells witness and mark ellis is a close fraind of the family and i know mark lawn was there that day too and put somone out so just shut your face!!!! Lawn for ever

9:26pm Sat 6 Feb 10

djmoulson says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
djmoulson wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?!
somone that surports mccall and not bradford city like most of the people on hear aka macca and citygent
let me put gspot on that list too
Well if you read my post from earlier I'd say I'm a McCall fan, but only because of what he's done for the club throughout his career, I'm sad as he cares for the club greatly and myself personally would have loved for him to succeed, alas that hasn't been the case but sees the bigger picture and is man enough to admit that he hasn't, epitomising the character of the man. Stuart will still be a City fan, long after his seat has been filled and I wish him all the best.

I'm unsure of who I'd like to see in charge, Peter Taylor was suggested to me today, but rumours are that Jacko is in line for it. Who ever it is needs our support and I'm sure will get it. CTID
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djmoulson[/bold] wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?![/p][/quote]somone that surports mccall and not bradford city like most of the people on hear aka macca and citygent[/p][/quote]let me put gspot on that list too[/p][/quote]Well if you read my post from earlier I'd say I'm a McCall fan, but only because of what he's done for the club throughout his career, I'm sad as he cares for the club greatly and myself personally would have loved for him to succeed, alas that hasn't been the case but sees the bigger picture and is man enough to admit that he hasn't, epitomising the character of the man. Stuart will still be a City fan, long after his seat has been filled and I wish him all the best. I'm unsure of who I'd like to see in charge, Peter Taylor was suggested to me today, but rumours are that Jacko is in line for it. Who ever it is needs our support and I'm sure will get it. CTID djmoulson

9:26pm Sat 6 Feb 10

shaun from richmond says...

I carry the scares from the fire both physically and mentally.....so dont preach about the fire to me!!
One of the things McCall and I have in common is ..........neither of us can coach a football team!!
I carry the scares from the fire both physically and mentally.....so dont preach about the fire to me!! One of the things McCall and I have in common is ..........neither of us can coach a football team!! shaun from richmond

9:31pm Sat 6 Feb 10

shaun from richmond says...

The General 82-86 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
2storey wrote:
gspot wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...
jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!!
I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words
-joinWELL LETS SAY......A SPORTSMANS BET!! NOW THE DEAD WEIGHT OF McCALL HAS LEFT (Coaching wise I mean)....BRADFORD CITY WILL RISE!! As for Fans calling for Coaches head........Comes with the job!! Water off a ducks back if they are any good!!
You complete arse hole shaun you are no fan your a f---- disgrace to the club just f*** off
Ah!!!...........GENE
RAL "ROSE TINTED HIMSELF" Hope you dont kiss your mother with that dirty mouth of yours!!
[quote][p][bold]The General 82-86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...[/p][/quote]jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando[/p][/quote]I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!![/p][/quote]I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words[/p][/quote]-joinWELL LETS SAY......A SPORTSMANS BET!! NOW THE DEAD WEIGHT OF McCALL HAS LEFT (Coaching wise I mean)....BRADFORD CITY WILL RISE!! As for Fans calling for Coaches head........Comes with the job!! Water off a ducks back if they are any good!![/p][/quote]You complete arse hole shaun you are no fan your a f---- disgrace to the club just f*** off[/p][/quote]Ah!!!...........GENE RAL "ROSE TINTED HIMSELF" Hope you dont kiss your mother with that dirty mouth of yours!! shaun from richmond

9:32pm Sat 6 Feb 10

mrshower says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote: McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!!
Well Shaun, I wasn't one of those 'rose tinted' ones that made him stay. However, at least I have had the decency to treat him with respect. I don't know how old you are but I do know you are immature in the extreme. You can't even refrain from being disrespectful at this moment in time when many of us relate to Stuart not only through his superb efforts as a player during his two periods as a player for us, but we also relate with Stuart because of our shared experience of sadness and loss during the VP fire. You may or may not have been at that game which might explain to some degree your childl-like postings. I offered you the chance a few weeks ago to demonstrate what you really knew about 'coaching' and you bottled it. You and the rest who come on here and criticise McCall without being able to express any knowledge or experience of coaching make me laugh because those of us that have been there and done it can spot you a million miles away. You need to do some growing up Shaun, you have finally gotten your wish and you can start calling for the next managers head in another years time if we are not top of the league.
Well said lonniejockstrap.
As for shaun THE TRAITOR from richmond TRAITORS OUT and confiscate their season tickets.
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!![/p][/quote]Well Shaun, I wasn't one of those 'rose tinted' ones that made him stay. However, at least I have had the decency to treat him with respect. I don't know how old you are but I do know you are immature in the extreme. You can't even refrain from being disrespectful at this moment in time when many of us relate to Stuart not only through his superb efforts as a player during his two periods as a player for us, but we also relate with Stuart because of our shared experience of sadness and loss during the VP fire. You may or may not have been at that game which might explain to some degree your childl-like postings. I offered you the chance a few weeks ago to demonstrate what you really knew about 'coaching' and you bottled it. You and the rest who come on here and criticise McCall without being able to express any knowledge or experience of coaching make me laugh because those of us that have been there and done it can spot you a million miles away. You need to do some growing up Shaun, you have finally gotten your wish and you can start calling for the next managers head in another years time if we are not top of the league.[/p][/quote]Well said lonniejockstrap. As for shaun THE TRAITOR from richmond TRAITORS OUT and confiscate their season tickets. mrshower

9:37pm Sat 6 Feb 10

bantambelle says...

For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.
For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had. bantambelle

9:39pm Sat 6 Feb 10

lonniejockstrap says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote: McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!!
Well Shaun, I wasn't one of those 'rose tinted' ones that made him stay. However, at least I have had the decency to treat him with respect. I don't know how old you are but I do know you are immature in the extreme. You can't even refrain from being disrespectful at this moment in time when many of us relate to Stuart not only through his superb efforts as a player during his two periods as a player for us, but we also relate with Stuart because of our shared experience of sadness and loss during the VP fire. You may or may not have been at that game which might explain to some degree your childl-like postings. I offered you the chance a few weeks ago to demonstrate what you really knew about 'coaching' and you bottled it. You and the rest who come on here and criticise McCall without being able to express any knowledge or experience of coaching make me laugh because those of us that have been there and done it can spot you a million miles away. You need to do some growing up Shaun, you have finally gotten your wish and you can start calling for the next managers head in another years time if we are not top of the league.
you dont know anything about respect you would bring the fire up just to have a go at somone and to protect mccall i was there and i have seen things that i wouldnt want anyone ells witness and mark ellis is a close fraind of the family and i know mark lawn was there that day too and put somone out so just shut your face!!!!
Don't and never had a problem with Mark Lawn so put your 2 brain cells together and use them a bit more effectively to read.
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!![/p][/quote]Well Shaun, I wasn't one of those 'rose tinted' ones that made him stay. However, at least I have had the decency to treat him with respect. I don't know how old you are but I do know you are immature in the extreme. You can't even refrain from being disrespectful at this moment in time when many of us relate to Stuart not only through his superb efforts as a player during his two periods as a player for us, but we also relate with Stuart because of our shared experience of sadness and loss during the VP fire. You may or may not have been at that game which might explain to some degree your childl-like postings. I offered you the chance a few weeks ago to demonstrate what you really knew about 'coaching' and you bottled it. You and the rest who come on here and criticise McCall without being able to express any knowledge or experience of coaching make me laugh because those of us that have been there and done it can spot you a million miles away. You need to do some growing up Shaun, you have finally gotten your wish and you can start calling for the next managers head in another years time if we are not top of the league.[/p][/quote]you dont know anything about respect you would bring the fire up just to have a go at somone and to protect mccall i was there and i have seen things that i wouldnt want anyone ells witness and mark ellis is a close fraind of the family and i know mark lawn was there that day too and put somone out so just shut your face!!!![/p][/quote]Don't and never had a problem with Mark Lawn so put your 2 brain cells together and use them a bit more effectively to read. lonniejockstrap

9:39pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

mrshower wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote: McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!!
Well Shaun, I wasn't one of those 'rose tinted' ones that made him stay. However, at least I have had the decency to treat him with respect. I don't know how old you are but I do know you are immature in the extreme. You can't even refrain from being disrespectful at this moment in time when many of us relate to Stuart not only through his superb efforts as a player during his two periods as a player for us, but we also relate with Stuart because of our shared experience of sadness and loss during the VP fire. You may or may not have been at that game which might explain to some degree your childl-like postings. I offered you the chance a few weeks ago to demonstrate what you really knew about 'coaching' and you bottled it. You and the rest who come on here and criticise McCall without being able to express any knowledge or experience of coaching make me laugh because those of us that have been there and done it can spot you a million miles away. You need to do some growing up Shaun, you have finally gotten your wish and you can start calling for the next managers head in another years time if we are not top of the league.
Well said lonniejockstrap. As for shaun THE TRAITOR from richmond TRAITORS OUT and confiscate their season tickets.
i think any of you discussing the fire with mccalls management skills are sick, yes i was there that day with many other true fans and players,jacko,mega etc and we resepct all fans including lawn that day that helped to save our fans, so lets leave the fire out of this
[quote][p][bold]mrshower[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: McCALL KNEW LAST YEAR HE COULDNT COACH!!! But the "ROSE TINTED BRIGADE" made him stay!! I was at Torquay last week and saw McCall getting off the coach......He looked ill !! AND FRANKLY BEING CITY COACH, ISNT WORTH YOUR HEALTH!!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO THIS.........AS HE SHOULD HAVE GONE MUCH EARLIER!![/p][/quote]Well Shaun, I wasn't one of those 'rose tinted' ones that made him stay. However, at least I have had the decency to treat him with respect. I don't know how old you are but I do know you are immature in the extreme. You can't even refrain from being disrespectful at this moment in time when many of us relate to Stuart not only through his superb efforts as a player during his two periods as a player for us, but we also relate with Stuart because of our shared experience of sadness and loss during the VP fire. You may or may not have been at that game which might explain to some degree your childl-like postings. I offered you the chance a few weeks ago to demonstrate what you really knew about 'coaching' and you bottled it. You and the rest who come on here and criticise McCall without being able to express any knowledge or experience of coaching make me laugh because those of us that have been there and done it can spot you a million miles away. You need to do some growing up Shaun, you have finally gotten your wish and you can start calling for the next managers head in another years time if we are not top of the league.[/p][/quote]Well said lonniejockstrap. As for shaun THE TRAITOR from richmond TRAITORS OUT and confiscate their season tickets.[/p][/quote]i think any of you discussing the fire with mccalls management skills are sick, yes i was there that day with many other true fans and players,jacko,mega etc and we resepct all fans including lawn that day that helped to save our fans, so lets leave the fire out of this 2storey

9:41pm Sat 6 Feb 10

The General 82-86 says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
The General 82-86 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
2storey wrote:
gspot wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...
jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!!
I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words
-joinWELL LETS SAY......A SPORTSMANS BET!! NOW THE DEAD WEIGHT OF McCALL HAS LEFT (Coaching wise I mean)....BRADFORD CITY WILL RISE!! As for Fans calling for Coaches head........Comes with the job!! Water off a ducks back if they are any good!!
You complete arse hole shaun you are no fan your a f---- disgrace to the club just f*** off
Ah!!!...........GENE RAL "ROSE TINTED HIMSELF" Hope you dont kiss your mother with that dirty mouth of yours!!
Shaun would love to meet i sit in the sunwin block d fow l seat 24 or come for a pint in the swing gate in idle before a game if you are old enough to drink that is !!
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The General 82-86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...[/p][/quote]jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando[/p][/quote]I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!![/p][/quote]I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words[/p][/quote]-joinWELL LETS SAY......A SPORTSMANS BET!! NOW THE DEAD WEIGHT OF McCALL HAS LEFT (Coaching wise I mean)....BRADFORD CITY WILL RISE!! As for Fans calling for Coaches head........Comes with the job!! Water off a ducks back if they are any good!![/p][/quote]You complete arse hole shaun you are no fan your a f---- disgrace to the club just f*** off[/p][/quote]Ah!!!...........GENE RAL "ROSE TINTED HIMSELF" Hope you dont kiss your mother with that dirty mouth of yours!![/p][/quote]Shaun would love to meet i sit in the sunwin block d fow l seat 24 or come for a pint in the swing gate in idle before a game if you are old enough to drink that is !! The General 82-86

9:43pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Lawn for ever says...

bantambelle wrote:
For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.
you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
[quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.[/p][/quote]you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would Lawn for ever

9:44pm Sat 6 Feb 10

gspot says...

2storey wrote:
gspot wrote: obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.
ok mr kay who is your choice
not sure who this mr kay is lol.....seriously i don't know who i'd give it to.
Jewell wont take it so i think i'm safe to say we can forget that one.
dolan is a no no for me.
deano as no experience what so ever so surely mccall may as well stayed.
peter taylor??? would he want it? maybe with a promise of a decent budget and he's done it from this level before with Wycombe so if they can attract him then why not us?
jacko?? we could do worse
sinnott?? not sure what my thoughts are on that one.

but like i say i'm not an expert on managers at this level but how about people like the guy from Acc Stanley (not sure about his name) but if people like that can do a decent job with a club that size then why not have a punt on him or someone similar?

if i was to have a wager on it i'd possible go for jacko on a short term contract until end of season...just my opinion...yours?
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.[/p][/quote]ok mr kay who is your choice[/p][/quote]not sure who this mr kay is lol.....seriously i don't know who i'd give it to. Jewell wont take it so i think i'm safe to say we can forget that one. dolan is a no no for me. deano as no experience what so ever so surely mccall may as well stayed. peter taylor??? would he want it? maybe with a promise of a decent budget and he's done it from this level before with Wycombe so if they can attract him then why not us? jacko?? we could do worse sinnott?? not sure what my thoughts are on that one. but like i say i'm not an expert on managers at this level but how about people like the guy from Acc Stanley (not sure about his name) but if people like that can do a decent job with a club that size then why not have a punt on him or someone similar? if i was to have a wager on it i'd possible go for jacko on a short term contract until end of season...just my opinion...yours? gspot

9:47pm Sat 6 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

2storey wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote: ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTID
What? Are you for real, who said anything about hating him, i know he invested in the club or should i say loaned money to the club,(wonder what the interest rate is) what i'm saying is that i don't believe a word he says he is like gordon brown and david cameron all promising everything and delivering what? You blame Stu so answer why was it Lawn gave him another 2 year deal when we had achieved nothing,why did he talk Stuart out of quitting by asking the fans to more or less beg him to stay? Stuart is hung out to dry for his mistakes why can't Lawn take any criticism. Cuts both ways in my eyes he made the decision to employ him offer another contract beg him to stay mouth off about back to back promotions but in your eyes can do no wrong. WHATEVER
pick the phone and speak to lawn he isnt taking anything out of the club, if you were a fan you would know there is no money to take out
Exactly so if no money to take out= no money to spend = no money for mccall to fleece us with and you say i'm no fan. I'm only saying he isn't whiter than white and inflames the situation with ludicrous comments and his own decision making isn't exactly perfect. so are you saying he isn't taking any interest on his loan
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTID[/p][/quote]What? Are you for real, who said anything about hating him, i know he invested in the club or should i say loaned money to the club,(wonder what the interest rate is) what i'm saying is that i don't believe a word he says he is like gordon brown and david cameron all promising everything and delivering what? You blame Stu so answer why was it Lawn gave him another 2 year deal when we had achieved nothing,why did he talk Stuart out of quitting by asking the fans to more or less beg him to stay? Stuart is hung out to dry for his mistakes why can't Lawn take any criticism. Cuts both ways in my eyes he made the decision to employ him offer another contract beg him to stay mouth off about back to back promotions but in your eyes can do no wrong. WHATEVER[/p][/quote]pick the phone and speak to lawn he isnt taking anything out of the club, if you were a fan you would know there is no money to take out[/p][/quote]Exactly so if no money to take out= no money to spend = no money for mccall to fleece us with and you say i'm no fan. I'm only saying he isn't whiter than white and inflames the situation with ludicrous comments and his own decision making isn't exactly perfect. so are you saying he isn't taking any interest on his loan macca1969

9:48pm Sat 6 Feb 10

smitd says...

come on guys
we all agree that stuart was and always will be a legend at valley parade but when has an idol of a player ever gone back to his club and been a successful manager
look at Leeds with the bremners, clarks and grays
but forget that what concerns me - look at us all - at a time we band of brothers who should all be pulling together are ripping one another to shreds
according to the bookies jackois favourite - i hope not, windyarse is 2nd fav
personally i would get sinnot in on a contract to the end of the season and say go on boy see what you can do
by the way did you know that hanson was on better money over the season at guiseley - as it turns out - because at city he is only on an intermediate contract and only gets paid when he plays - he went for four weeks dec/jan when because of the snow he didnt receive a penny from the club
come on guys we all agree that stuart was and always will be a legend at valley parade but when has an idol of a player ever gone back to his club and been a successful manager look at Leeds with the bremners, clarks and grays but forget that what concerns me - look at us all - at a time we band of brothers who should all be pulling together are ripping one another to shreds according to the bookies jackois favourite - i hope not, windyarse is 2nd fav personally i would get sinnot in on a contract to the end of the season and say go on boy see what you can do by the way did you know that hanson was on better money over the season at guiseley - as it turns out - because at city he is only on an intermediate contract and only gets paid when he plays - he went for four weeks dec/jan when because of the snow he didnt receive a penny from the club smitd

9:49pm Sat 6 Feb 10

shaun from richmond says...

The General 82-86 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
The General 82-86 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
2storey wrote:
gspot wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...
jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando
I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!!
I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words
-joinWELL LETS SAY......A SPORTSMANS BET!! NOW THE DEAD WEIGHT OF McCALL HAS LEFT (Coaching wise I mean)....BRADFORD CITY WILL RISE!! As for Fans calling for Coaches head........Comes with the job!! Water off a ducks back if they are any good!!
You complete arse hole shaun you are no fan your a f---- disgrace to the club just f*** off
Ah!!!...........GENE RAL "ROSE TINTED HIMSELF" Hope you dont kiss your mother with that dirty mouth of yours!!
Shaun would love to meet i sit in the sunwin block d fow l seat 24 or come for a pint in the swing gate in idle before a game if you are old enough to drink that is !!
Thanks for the info!! Your language could be a "BIT FRUITY" for me!!
[quote][p][bold]The General 82-86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The General 82-86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: absolutely gutted but i also feel pleased for the man now that he is out of the firing line in what is an impossible job in my eyes!!! true legend and always will be to any true city supporter - no person player/manager or any type of staff will have love a club as much as this man loves City...what a shame it's come to this but maybe for the best. good luck in whatever you do in the future!!! i'd love to see Jewell down on short term until end of season but i cant see it...[/p][/quote]jewell wont come he wont go back into football, living the high life in celebration in orlando[/p][/quote]I WOULDNT BET ON THAT!! OR SHOULD I SAY.......IT MAY BE WORTH A FEW QUID!! QUICK!![/p][/quote]I'LL wager a bet he won't touch the job. He has only ever had success as a manager with money look at what happened without any Derby and Wednesday at least he got a good payout something he's not going to get at city. Nah he won't touch it i don't think i'd want it myself. We will end up with another has been and all be shouting for him to be sacked within 2 years mark my words[/p][/quote]-joinWELL LETS SAY......A SPORTSMANS BET!! NOW THE DEAD WEIGHT OF McCALL HAS LEFT (Coaching wise I mean)....BRADFORD CITY WILL RISE!! As for Fans calling for Coaches head........Comes with the job!! Water off a ducks back if they are any good!![/p][/quote]You complete arse hole shaun you are no fan your a f---- disgrace to the club just f*** off[/p][/quote]Ah!!!...........GENE RAL "ROSE TINTED HIMSELF" Hope you dont kiss your mother with that dirty mouth of yours!![/p][/quote]Shaun would love to meet i sit in the sunwin block d fow l seat 24 or come for a pint in the swing gate in idle before a game if you are old enough to drink that is !![/p][/quote]Thanks for the info!! Your language could be a "BIT FRUITY" for me!! shaun from richmond

9:50pm Sat 6 Feb 10

The General 82-86 says...

gspot wrote:
2storey wrote:
gspot wrote: obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.
ok mr kay who is your choice
not sure who this mr kay is lol.....seriously i don't know who i'd give it to. Jewell wont take it so i think i'm safe to say we can forget that one. dolan is a no no for me. deano as no experience what so ever so surely mccall may as well stayed. peter taylor??? would he want it? maybe with a promise of a decent budget and he's done it from this level before with Wycombe so if they can attract him then why not us? jacko?? we could do worse sinnott?? not sure what my thoughts are on that one. but like i say i'm not an expert on managers at this level but how about people like the guy from Acc Stanley (not sure about his name) but if people like that can do a decent job with a club that size then why not have a punt on him or someone similar? if i was to have a wager on it i'd possible go for jacko on a short term contract until end of season...just my opinion...yours?
Its well known that lawn is a friend of jackos so would not be surprised funny how things turn round ,there again shaun will be shouting for his head in six months if this happened!!
[quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.[/p][/quote]ok mr kay who is your choice[/p][/quote]not sure who this mr kay is lol.....seriously i don't know who i'd give it to. Jewell wont take it so i think i'm safe to say we can forget that one. dolan is a no no for me. deano as no experience what so ever so surely mccall may as well stayed. peter taylor??? would he want it? maybe with a promise of a decent budget and he's done it from this level before with Wycombe so if they can attract him then why not us? jacko?? we could do worse sinnott?? not sure what my thoughts are on that one. but like i say i'm not an expert on managers at this level but how about people like the guy from Acc Stanley (not sure about his name) but if people like that can do a decent job with a club that size then why not have a punt on him or someone similar? if i was to have a wager on it i'd possible go for jacko on a short term contract until end of season...just my opinion...yours?[/p][/quote]Its well known that lawn is a friend of jackos so would not be surprised funny how things turn round ,there again shaun will be shouting for his head in six months if this happened!! The General 82-86

9:51pm Sat 6 Feb 10

thecitygent says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
thecitygent wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
thecitygent wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
thecitygent wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?
I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID
Are you 'Mr' Lawn in disguise or just high on the wakky baccy?
i wish i was half the man he is he`s one of the best things that happend to this club which is more that i can say about mccall becoming manager CTID
Well if his weight loss plan goes to plan why don't you share his trousers and be part of the success story?
at least theres guna be one now mcalls gone but i take it your a mccall fan so you will be surporting the team he`s going to if enyone is stupid enough to take him
You really do seem to live in a simple black and white world. Respect for Stuart McCall is not about not continuing to support the club I have followed for the last 30 odd years. I hope to heavens that you are not 'Mr' Lawn because if so he is evidently not that bright. I look forward to his comments in a T&A interview on Monday and not via pseudo-nyms or lackies on this message board.
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: Out of interest why no meeting with Mark Lawn or does that tell us something?[/p][/quote]I think Mccall dint even mention Mr Lawn because Mark has the guts tell McCall exactly what kind of manager he was which is proably Blue Square standards and that where we would have been if he not walked (at last) CTID[/p][/quote]Are you 'Mr' Lawn in disguise or just high on the wakky baccy?[/p][/quote]i wish i was half the man he is he`s one of the best things that happend to this club which is more that i can say about mccall becoming manager CTID[/p][/quote]Well if his weight loss plan goes to plan why don't you share his trousers and be part of the success story?[/p][/quote]at least theres guna be one now mcalls gone but i take it your a mccall fan so you will be surporting the team he`s going to if enyone is stupid enough to take him[/p][/quote]You really do seem to live in a simple black and white world. Respect for Stuart McCall is not about not continuing to support the club I have followed for the last 30 odd years. I hope to heavens that you are not 'Mr' Lawn because if so he is evidently not that bright. I look forward to his comments in a T&A interview on Monday and not via pseudo-nyms or lackies on this message board. thecitygent

9:51pm Sat 6 Feb 10

BeckenhamBantam says...

Stuart, You can walk away with your head held high. All true supporters know that you did everything you could for the club.

You are, and always will be, a City legend!
Stuart, You can walk away with your head held high. All true supporters know that you did everything you could for the club. You are, and always will be, a City legend! BeckenhamBantam

9:52pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

macca1969 wrote:
2storey wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote: ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTID
What? Are you for real, who said anything about hating him, i know he invested in the club or should i say loaned money to the club,(wonder what the interest rate is) what i'm saying is that i don't believe a word he says he is like gordon brown and david cameron all promising everything and delivering what? You blame Stu so answer why was it Lawn gave him another 2 year deal when we had achieved nothing,why did he talk Stuart out of quitting by asking the fans to more or less beg him to stay? Stuart is hung out to dry for his mistakes why can't Lawn take any criticism. Cuts both ways in my eyes he made the decision to employ him offer another contract beg him to stay mouth off about back to back promotions but in your eyes can do no wrong. WHATEVER
pick the phone and speak to lawn he isnt taking anything out of the club, if you were a fan you would know there is no money to take out
Exactly so if no money to take out= no money to spend = no money for mccall to fleece us with and you say i'm no fan. I'm only saying he isn't whiter than white and inflames the situation with ludicrous comments and his own decision making isn't exactly perfect. so are you saying he isn't taking any interest on his loan
yes i know he isnt taking any interest on his money, pick up the phone and if you dont have the guts to talk to him speak to julian he is very approachable, or even have a look at the accounts
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTID[/p][/quote]What? Are you for real, who said anything about hating him, i know he invested in the club or should i say loaned money to the club,(wonder what the interest rate is) what i'm saying is that i don't believe a word he says he is like gordon brown and david cameron all promising everything and delivering what? You blame Stu so answer why was it Lawn gave him another 2 year deal when we had achieved nothing,why did he talk Stuart out of quitting by asking the fans to more or less beg him to stay? Stuart is hung out to dry for his mistakes why can't Lawn take any criticism. Cuts both ways in my eyes he made the decision to employ him offer another contract beg him to stay mouth off about back to back promotions but in your eyes can do no wrong. WHATEVER[/p][/quote]pick the phone and speak to lawn he isnt taking anything out of the club, if you were a fan you would know there is no money to take out[/p][/quote]Exactly so if no money to take out= no money to spend = no money for mccall to fleece us with and you say i'm no fan. I'm only saying he isn't whiter than white and inflames the situation with ludicrous comments and his own decision making isn't exactly perfect. so are you saying he isn't taking any interest on his loan[/p][/quote]yes i know he isnt taking any interest on his money, pick up the phone and if you dont have the guts to talk to him speak to julian he is very approachable, or even have a look at the accounts 2storey

9:52pm Sat 6 Feb 10

bantambelle says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
bantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.
you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.[/p][/quote]you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would[/p][/quote]you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break bantambelle

9:56pm Sat 6 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

2storey wrote:
mahb70 wrote: It's a very sad day , with ironically our most convincing performance for weeks.Our players can't score and any slight mistake at the back seems to get punished.Today's failings are not down to Stuart and on those fine margins todays sad decision has been reached.The next manager is going to have to be blessed with a huge amount of good fortune cos he's still got a moderate budget and will have less tolerence from our impatient fans. DW til end of season is an option if we don't want to break somebody's contract .
there is alot of managers out of work, sinnott, jacko,just 2 that spring to mind
You question my love of the club and pull out those 2 names. What an idiot. For your information i have supported city for nearly 3 decades through many different managers and have supported them all bar 2. City's problems will not disapear with McCall i will guarentee that unless Lawn is going to magic some extra cash from some where. As a city supporter can you not remenber Jacko dissing this club whilst at scum.No i don't think most city fans would want him
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mahb70[/bold] wrote: It's a very sad day , with ironically our most convincing performance for weeks.Our players can't score and any slight mistake at the back seems to get punished.Today's failings are not down to Stuart and on those fine margins todays sad decision has been reached.The next manager is going to have to be blessed with a huge amount of good fortune cos he's still got a moderate budget and will have less tolerence from our impatient fans. DW til end of season is an option if we don't want to break somebody's contract .[/p][/quote]there is alot of managers out of work, sinnott, jacko,just 2 that spring to mind[/p][/quote]You question my love of the club and pull out those 2 names. What an idiot. For your information i have supported city for nearly 3 decades through many different managers and have supported them all bar 2. City's problems will not disapear with McCall i will guarentee that unless Lawn is going to magic some extra cash from some where. As a city supporter can you not remenber Jacko dissing this club whilst at scum.No i don't think most city fans would want him macca1969

9:58pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

The General 82-86 wrote:
gspot wrote:
2storey wrote:
gspot wrote: obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.
ok mr kay who is your choice
not sure who this mr kay is lol.....seriously i don't know who i'd give it to. Jewell wont take it so i think i'm safe to say we can forget that one. dolan is a no no for me. deano as no experience what so ever so surely mccall may as well stayed. peter taylor??? would he want it? maybe with a promise of a decent budget and he's done it from this level before with Wycombe so if they can attract him then why not us? jacko?? we could do worse sinnott?? not sure what my thoughts are on that one. but like i say i'm not an expert on managers at this level but how about people like the guy from Acc Stanley (not sure about his name) but if people like that can do a decent job with a club that size then why not have a punt on him or someone similar? if i was to have a wager on it i'd possible go for jacko on a short term contract until end of season...just my opinion...yours?
Its well known that lawn is a friend of jackos so would not be surprised funny how things turn round ,there again shaun will be shouting for his head in six months if this happened!!
jacko is a mate of mega's as they played together along with mccall, so why dont we get mega as a manager.lol also we are all saying mccall is going, but surely he cannt go without a board meeting as he is in a 2 year contract
[quote][p][bold]The General 82-86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.[/p][/quote]ok mr kay who is your choice[/p][/quote]not sure who this mr kay is lol.....seriously i don't know who i'd give it to. Jewell wont take it so i think i'm safe to say we can forget that one. dolan is a no no for me. deano as no experience what so ever so surely mccall may as well stayed. peter taylor??? would he want it? maybe with a promise of a decent budget and he's done it from this level before with Wycombe so if they can attract him then why not us? jacko?? we could do worse sinnott?? not sure what my thoughts are on that one. but like i say i'm not an expert on managers at this level but how about people like the guy from Acc Stanley (not sure about his name) but if people like that can do a decent job with a club that size then why not have a punt on him or someone similar? if i was to have a wager on it i'd possible go for jacko on a short term contract until end of season...just my opinion...yours?[/p][/quote]Its well known that lawn is a friend of jackos so would not be surprised funny how things turn round ,there again shaun will be shouting for his head in six months if this happened!![/p][/quote]jacko is a mate of mega's as they played together along with mccall, so why dont we get mega as a manager.lol also we are all saying mccall is going, but surely he cannt go without a board meeting as he is in a 2 year contract 2storey

9:58pm Sat 6 Feb 10

DelShelf says...

Thanks for all your efforts Stuart, & the memories. Im disappointed its ended this way......
Thanks for all your efforts Stuart, & the memories. Im disappointed its ended this way...... DelShelf

10:00pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

gspot wrote:
2storey wrote:
gspot wrote: obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.
ok mr kay who is your choice
not sure who this mr kay is lol.....seriously i don't know who i'd give it to. Jewell wont take it so i think i'm safe to say we can forget that one. dolan is a no no for me. deano as no experience what so ever so surely mccall may as well stayed. peter taylor??? would he want it? maybe with a promise of a decent budget and he's done it from this level before with Wycombe so if they can attract him then why not us? jacko?? we could do worse sinnott?? not sure what my thoughts are on that one. but like i say i'm not an expert on managers at this level but how about people like the guy from Acc Stanley (not sure about his name) but if people like that can do a decent job with a club that size then why not have a punt on him or someone similar? if i was to have a wager on it i'd possible go for jacko on a short term contract until end of season...just my opinion...yours?
heard that phil brown from hull was looking for a new position
[quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.[/p][/quote]ok mr kay who is your choice[/p][/quote]not sure who this mr kay is lol.....seriously i don't know who i'd give it to. Jewell wont take it so i think i'm safe to say we can forget that one. dolan is a no no for me. deano as no experience what so ever so surely mccall may as well stayed. peter taylor??? would he want it? maybe with a promise of a decent budget and he's done it from this level before with Wycombe so if they can attract him then why not us? jacko?? we could do worse sinnott?? not sure what my thoughts are on that one. but like i say i'm not an expert on managers at this level but how about people like the guy from Acc Stanley (not sure about his name) but if people like that can do a decent job with a club that size then why not have a punt on him or someone similar? if i was to have a wager on it i'd possible go for jacko on a short term contract until end of season...just my opinion...yours?[/p][/quote]heard that phil brown from hull was looking for a new position 2storey

10:01pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Lawn for ever says...

cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon
cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon Lawn for ever

10:05pm Sat 6 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
bantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.
you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
Yes and maybe your beloved friend Lawn should have let him hey instead of bending his ear and asking the fans to beg him to give it one more go. To question me and others as fans of bradford city because we respect the bloke shows just what a pr!ck you are
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.[/p][/quote]you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would[/p][/quote]Yes and maybe your beloved friend Lawn should have let him hey instead of bending his ear and asking the fans to beg him to give it one more go. To question me and others as fans of bradford city because we respect the bloke shows just what a pr!ck you are macca1969

10:07pm Sat 6 Feb 10

skyblogger says...

hopefully the new man will spill the beans regarding the 7th biggest budget in league 2. what a joke you are mr lawn.. over to you know.
hopefully the new man will spill the beans regarding the 7th biggest budget in league 2. what a joke you are mr lawn.. over to you know. skyblogger

10:09pm Sat 6 Feb 10

gspot says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon
i cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!!
o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch.
by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon[/p][/quote]i cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed. gspot

10:09pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

bantambelle wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
bantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.
you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break
yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment
[quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.[/p][/quote]you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would[/p][/quote]you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break[/p][/quote]yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment 2storey

10:10pm Sat 6 Feb 10

gspot says...

2storey wrote:
gspot wrote:
2storey wrote:
gspot wrote: obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.
ok mr kay who is your choice
not sure who this mr kay is lol.....seriously i don't know who i'd give it to. Jewell wont take it so i think i'm safe to say we can forget that one. dolan is a no no for me. deano as no experience what so ever so surely mccall may as well stayed. peter taylor??? would he want it? maybe with a promise of a decent budget and he's done it from this level before with Wycombe so if they can attract him then why not us? jacko?? we could do worse sinnott?? not sure what my thoughts are on that one. but like i say i'm not an expert on managers at this level but how about people like the guy from Acc Stanley (not sure about his name) but if people like that can do a decent job with a club that size then why not have a punt on him or someone similar? if i was to have a wager on it i'd possible go for jacko on a short term contract until end of season...just my opinion...yours?
heard that phil brown from hull was looking for a new position
come on Mr B a serious repsonse!!
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: obviously it's not really worked out for McGod as a manager for one reason or another but for any genuine city fan to slag him off beggers belief and you should be ashamed. oh and i thought Clarke was excellent today!!! is still makes me chuckle how people suggest Dolan a) he has never done anything and b) he hasn't worked for what must be 10 years or so. i'm not an expert on managers at this level and i predict we will struggle to attract an established name so i'll wait for the people on here defending lawn to slate him for appointing a poor manager...i hope i'm wrong but would you want the city job at present??? especially given that some fans think we have a divine right to walk this league.[/p][/quote]ok mr kay who is your choice[/p][/quote]not sure who this mr kay is lol.....seriously i don't know who i'd give it to. Jewell wont take it so i think i'm safe to say we can forget that one. dolan is a no no for me. deano as no experience what so ever so surely mccall may as well stayed. peter taylor??? would he want it? maybe with a promise of a decent budget and he's done it from this level before with Wycombe so if they can attract him then why not us? jacko?? we could do worse sinnott?? not sure what my thoughts are on that one. but like i say i'm not an expert on managers at this level but how about people like the guy from Acc Stanley (not sure about his name) but if people like that can do a decent job with a club that size then why not have a punt on him or someone similar? if i was to have a wager on it i'd possible go for jacko on a short term contract until end of season...just my opinion...yours?[/p][/quote]heard that phil brown from hull was looking for a new position[/p][/quote]come on Mr B a serious repsonse!! gspot

10:15pm Sat 6 Feb 10

skyblogger says...

mark lawn. the investor. what a joke!

Whats has been invested? The colbeck money? the fans season ticket money? the delph money?

7th biggest spender in the old league 4! what are you going to do mark now your puppet has gone? Hire another puppet?
mark lawn. the investor. what a joke! Whats has been invested? The colbeck money? the fans season ticket money? the delph money? 7th biggest spender in the old league 4! what are you going to do mark now your puppet has gone? Hire another puppet? skyblogger

10:15pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

DelShelf wrote:
Thanks for all your efforts Stuart, & the memories. Im disappointed its ended this way......
who says it has ended, we have been here befor last year and he didnt go
[quote][p][bold]DelShelf[/bold] wrote: Thanks for all your efforts Stuart, & the memories. Im disappointed its ended this way......[/p][/quote]who says it has ended, we have been here befor last year and he didnt go 2storey

10:17pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Lawn for ever says...

gspot wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon
i cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.
all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2
[quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon[/p][/quote]i cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.[/p][/quote]all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2 Lawn for ever

10:21pm Sat 6 Feb 10

skyblogger says...

This club will never move forward whilst lawn is chairman. We need a real investor not a pretend loaner.
This club will never move forward whilst lawn is chairman. We need a real investor not a pretend loaner. skyblogger

10:23pm Sat 6 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
bantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.
you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
Yes and maybe your beloved friend Lawn should have let him hey instead of bending his ear and asking the fans to beg him to give it one more go. To question me and others as fans of bradford city because we respect the bloke shows just what a pr!ck you are
thats not very nice i do respect mccall as a player but not as a manager because he`s s***
Sorry and you have been nice i must have missed that. McCall quit today so agrees with you that he is not up to it. So i can't excuse your abuse and lack of respect for the man. McCall earned it over nearly 30 years Mark Lawn has still to prove and earn the fans respect thats A fact and if he don't get the correct manager in and it better not be jacko he might yet face the fans wrath
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.[/p][/quote]you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would[/p][/quote]Yes and maybe your beloved friend Lawn should have let him hey instead of bending his ear and asking the fans to beg him to give it one more go. To question me and others as fans of bradford city because we respect the bloke shows just what a pr!ck you are[/p][/quote]thats not very nice i do respect mccall as a player but not as a manager because he`s s***[/p][/quote]Sorry and you have been nice i must have missed that. McCall quit today so agrees with you that he is not up to it. So i can't excuse your abuse and lack of respect for the man. McCall earned it over nearly 30 years Mark Lawn has still to prove and earn the fans respect thats A fact and if he don't get the correct manager in and it better not be jacko he might yet face the fans wrath macca1969

10:24pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

skyblogger wrote:
This club will never move forward whilst lawn is chairman. We need a real investor not a pretend loaner.
well you get your money out you pri----k, he was ok 2 year ago when he got us out of the sh1t wasnt he, dont see anybody else putting there money in there pockets do you
[quote][p][bold]skyblogger[/bold] wrote: This club will never move forward whilst lawn is chairman. We need a real investor not a pretend loaner.[/p][/quote]well you get your money out you pri----k, he was ok 2 year ago when he got us out of the sh1t wasnt he, dont see anybody else putting there money in there pockets do you 2storey

10:25pm Sat 6 Feb 10

gspot says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
gspot wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon
i cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.
all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2
i wouldn't say he is prolific cos surely Grimsby wouldn't have shipped him out otherwise.

i must agree with your comment above about it's a good thing that we don't have silly chairmen anymore like richmond etc
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon[/p][/quote]i cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.[/p][/quote]all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2[/p][/quote]i wouldn't say he is prolific cos surely Grimsby wouldn't have shipped him out otherwise. i must agree with your comment above about it's a good thing that we don't have silly chairmen anymore like richmond etc gspot

10:27pm Sat 6 Feb 10

shaun from richmond says...

WHO EVER WE GET AS OUR NEW COACH WILL NOT...........Play James Hanson in midfield, as he did in the second half today!!
WELL LETS HOPE NOT ANYWAY!!
WHO EVER WE GET AS OUR NEW COACH WILL NOT...........Play James Hanson in midfield, as he did in the second half today!! WELL LETS HOPE NOT ANYWAY!! shaun from richmond

10:28pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Lawn for ever says...

The General 82-86 wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
bantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.
you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
Yes and maybe your beloved friend Lawn should have let him hey instead of bending his ear and asking the fans to beg him to give it one more go. To question me and others as fans of bradford city because we respect the bloke shows just what a pr!ck you are
thats not very nice i do respect mccall as a player but not as a manager because he`s s***
go to sleep now in your one bedroom council flat you thick simple ****
i bet you wish that you were a few quid behind me just guna go to sleep now with all the profits of flamingo land in my bank account
[quote][p][bold]The General 82-86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.[/p][/quote]you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would[/p][/quote]Yes and maybe your beloved friend Lawn should have let him hey instead of bending his ear and asking the fans to beg him to give it one more go. To question me and others as fans of bradford city because we respect the bloke shows just what a pr!ck you are[/p][/quote]thats not very nice i do respect mccall as a player but not as a manager because he`s s***[/p][/quote]go to sleep now in your one bedroom council flat you thick simple ****[/p][/quote]i bet you wish that you were a few quid behind me just guna go to sleep now with all the profits of flamingo land in my bank account Lawn for ever

10:29pm Sat 6 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
gspot wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon
i cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.
all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2
A fact will prove Conlon scored more goals in less minutes on the pitch last season under McCall than under his coaches this season. So i'm wondering what does this actually prove? I suppose it means you talk sh!te
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon[/p][/quote]i cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.[/p][/quote]all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2[/p][/quote]A fact will prove Conlon scored more goals in less minutes on the pitch last season under McCall than under his coaches this season. So i'm wondering what does this actually prove? I suppose it means you talk sh!te macca1969

10:29pm Sat 6 Feb 10

gspot says...

the best thing said in all the above is that we fans should now be sticking together and in truth not all of us will like the new appointment that is for sure but a true city fan will stick by them regardless.

still waiting for a serious reponse from story2 (surely i have better things to do on a saturday night)

sec word: blow-land (now thats a thought)
the best thing said in all the above is that we fans should now be sticking together and in truth not all of us will like the new appointment that is for sure but a true city fan will stick by them regardless. still waiting for a serious reponse from story2 (surely i have better things to do on a saturday night) sec word: blow-land (now thats a thought) gspot

10:32pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Lawn for ever says...

macca1969 wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
gspot wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon
i cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.
all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2
A fact will prove Conlon scored more goals in less minutes on the pitch last season under McCall than under his coaches this season. So i'm wondering what does this actually prove? I suppose it means you talk sh!te
but not quite as much as you
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon[/p][/quote]i cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.[/p][/quote]all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2[/p][/quote]A fact will prove Conlon scored more goals in less minutes on the pitch last season under McCall than under his coaches this season. So i'm wondering what does this actually prove? I suppose it means you talk sh!te[/p][/quote]but not quite as much as you Lawn for ever

10:34pm Sat 6 Feb 10

gspot says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
gspot wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon
i cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.
all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2
A fact will prove Conlon scored more goals in less minutes on the pitch last season under McCall than under his coaches this season. So i'm wondering what does this actually prove? I suppose it means you talk sh!te
but not quite as much as you
this is becoming quite comical now...keep going lads
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon[/p][/quote]i cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.[/p][/quote]all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2[/p][/quote]A fact will prove Conlon scored more goals in less minutes on the pitch last season under McCall than under his coaches this season. So i'm wondering what does this actually prove? I suppose it means you talk sh!te[/p][/quote]but not quite as much as you[/p][/quote]this is becoming quite comical now...keep going lads gspot

10:35pm Sat 6 Feb 10

skyblogger says...

what money has lawn put in? (not inc the money put in / taken back out)

not exactly an investor!

7th best budget in div 2 with our support. does not add up.
what money has lawn put in? (not inc the money put in / taken back out) not exactly an investor! 7th best budget in div 2 with our support. does not add up. skyblogger

10:38pm Sat 6 Feb 10

bantambelle says...

2storey wrote:
bantambelle wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
bantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.
you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break
yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment
oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.[/p][/quote]you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would[/p][/quote]you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break[/p][/quote]yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment[/p][/quote]oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find. bantambelle

10:39pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

skyblogger wrote:
what money has lawn put in? (not inc the money put in / taken back out) not exactly an investor! 7th best budget in div 2 with our support. does not add up.
not much support from you at £135 did you pay for your season ticket, try putting 2 million in, u to22er
[quote][p][bold]skyblogger[/bold] wrote: what money has lawn put in? (not inc the money put in / taken back out) not exactly an investor! 7th best budget in div 2 with our support. does not add up.[/p][/quote]not much support from you at £135 did you pay for your season ticket, try putting 2 million in, u to22er 2storey

10:39pm Sat 6 Feb 10

bazzer2202 says...

I think it will be bad for city if Mcall does leave who ever come in will inherit the same players maybe it time the players took some blame for under performing
I think it will be bad for city if Mcall does leave who ever come in will inherit the same players maybe it time the players took some blame for under performing bazzer2202

10:43pm Sat 6 Feb 10

shaun from richmond says...

bazzer2202 wrote:
I think it will be bad for city if Mcall does leave who ever come in will inherit the same players maybe it time the players took some blame for under performing
We have some pretty good players for this division!!! They just need COACHING properly!!
[quote][p][bold]bazzer2202[/bold] wrote: I think it will be bad for city if Mcall does leave who ever come in will inherit the same players maybe it time the players took some blame for under performing[/p][/quote]We have some pretty good players for this division!!! They just need COACHING properly!! shaun from richmond

10:45pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

bantambelle wrote:
2storey wrote:
bantambelle wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
bantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.
you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break
yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment
oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.
he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant
[quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.[/p][/quote]you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would[/p][/quote]you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break[/p][/quote]yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment[/p][/quote]oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.[/p][/quote]he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant 2storey

10:49pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
bazzer2202 wrote: I think it will be bad for city if Mcall does leave who ever come in will inherit the same players maybe it time the players took some blame for under performing
We have some pretty good players for this division!!! They just need COACHING properly!!
well said, best comment on here all night
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bazzer2202[/bold] wrote: I think it will be bad for city if Mcall does leave who ever come in will inherit the same players maybe it time the players took some blame for under performing[/p][/quote]We have some pretty good players for this division!!! They just need COACHING properly!![/p][/quote]well said, best comment on here all night 2storey

10:50pm Sat 6 Feb 10

skyblogger says...

no need for name calling, please get your facts right. the loan was not an investment. that why its called a loan and that why it was withdrew once we received funds regarding the delph and colbeck sales
no need for name calling, please get your facts right. the loan was not an investment. that why its called a loan and that why it was withdrew once we received funds regarding the delph and colbeck sales skyblogger

10:50pm Sat 6 Feb 10

bantambelle says...

2storey wrote:
bantambelle wrote:
2storey wrote:
bantambelle wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
bantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.
you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break
yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment
oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.
he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant
they don't have to pay millions out on renting their stadium!!! as for avram grant- we couldn't afford him and he probably doesn't give a monkeys about bcfc!
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.[/p][/quote]you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would[/p][/quote]you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break[/p][/quote]yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment[/p][/quote]oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.[/p][/quote]he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant[/p][/quote]they don't have to pay millions out on renting their stadium!!! as for avram grant- we couldn't afford him and he probably doesn't give a monkeys about bcfc! bantambelle

10:51pm Sat 6 Feb 10

lonniejockstrap says...

bazzer2202 wrote:
I think it will be bad for city if Mcall does leave who ever come in will inherit the same players maybe it time the players took some blame for under performing
I don't think we are far off being a decent team. I don't think the players can be accussed of not giving 100%. However, we surely all realised that we were not getting top quality players on the money Stuart had for bringing in players, and this lack of quality -no disrespect to the players- has cost us home and away. Some of us can understand this and don't blame the Manager totally for not being around the play-off places. Then there are those who think that Stuart is one of the worst Managers in league 2. Of course all our previous 10 managers or so were absolutely outstandingly succesfull weren't they.
[quote][p][bold]bazzer2202[/bold] wrote: I think it will be bad for city if Mcall does leave who ever come in will inherit the same players maybe it time the players took some blame for under performing[/p][/quote]I don't think we are far off being a decent team. I don't think the players can be accussed of not giving 100%. However, we surely all realised that we were not getting top quality players on the money Stuart had for bringing in players, and this lack of quality -no disrespect to the players- has cost us home and away. Some of us can understand this and don't blame the Manager totally for not being around the play-off places. Then there are those who think that Stuart is one of the worst Managers in league 2. Of course all our previous 10 managers or so were absolutely outstandingly succesfull weren't they. lonniejockstrap

10:51pm Sat 6 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
gspot wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon
i cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.
all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2
A fact will prove Conlon scored more goals in less minutes on the pitch last season under McCall than under his coaches this season. So i'm wondering what does this actually prove? I suppose it means you talk sh!te
but not quite as much as you
Maybe, maybe but i've not spent all night slagging the greatest servant bradford city will ever have. One that will never ever diss this club wherever he goes next whatever he does next. I hope for one that they is no payoff as we can't afford one but also so they is no confidentially clause and then one day Stuart can tell us the whole story maybe through a book because i'm saying now i agree he has failed and made mistakes i never said he didn't but it aint all black and white. Someone said earlier that we should get behind whoever is the manager and i know that is correct but i don't think i can stomach Jacko. This club made him who he was and to slag us off when at town i don't think i could go whilst he was manager. Just my opinion i know but i'd have to think long and hard. I'd still get my ticket just wouldn't attend i don't think he would last that long anyway
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: cheap talented players why did he go get o`gradey last season all mccall dose it turn disent players rubbish examples rehman conlon and flynny looks to be going that way too but hopefully he can be saved sins McGods McGon[/p][/quote]i cant take you serious now after using conlon and decent in the same sentence!! o'grady was un-fit when he came to city so again shows that you and lawn should stick to buisness and forget what happens on the pitch. by the way i agree that lawn was a massive help to city when it was most needed.[/p][/quote]all i have to say to that is how many goals is conlon scoring now is it because he isnt wearing claret and amber or is it because now he dosnt have the worst manager in league 2[/p][/quote]A fact will prove Conlon scored more goals in less minutes on the pitch last season under McCall than under his coaches this season. So i'm wondering what does this actually prove? I suppose it means you talk sh!te[/p][/quote]but not quite as much as you[/p][/quote]Maybe, maybe but i've not spent all night slagging the greatest servant bradford city will ever have. One that will never ever diss this club wherever he goes next whatever he does next. I hope for one that they is no payoff as we can't afford one but also so they is no confidentially clause and then one day Stuart can tell us the whole story maybe through a book because i'm saying now i agree he has failed and made mistakes i never said he didn't but it aint all black and white. Someone said earlier that we should get behind whoever is the manager and i know that is correct but i don't think i can stomach Jacko. This club made him who he was and to slag us off when at town i don't think i could go whilst he was manager. Just my opinion i know but i'd have to think long and hard. I'd still get my ticket just wouldn't attend i don't think he would last that long anyway macca1969

10:51pm Sat 6 Feb 10

gspot says...

2storey wrote:
bantambelle wrote:
2storey wrote:
bantambelle wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
bantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.
you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break
yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment
oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.
he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant
if what your saying is right then why did Lawn agree to a extension last year??
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.[/p][/quote]you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would[/p][/quote]you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break[/p][/quote]yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment[/p][/quote]oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.[/p][/quote]he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant[/p][/quote]if what your saying is right then why did Lawn agree to a extension last year?? gspot

10:53pm Sat 6 Feb 10

skyblogger says...

please go now lawn, you cant invest due to you having nothing to invest, please allow a real investor to come in not a loaner
please go now lawn, you cant invest due to you having nothing to invest, please allow a real investor to come in not a loaner skyblogger

10:53pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

skyblogger wrote:
no need for name calling, please get your facts right. the loan was not an investment. that why its called a loan and that why it was withdrew once we received funds regarding the delph and colbeck sales
get your facts right he hasnt taken it back yet,delph money went to pay the loss from last year for not going up
[quote][p][bold]skyblogger[/bold] wrote: no need for name calling, please get your facts right. the loan was not an investment. that why its called a loan and that why it was withdrew once we received funds regarding the delph and colbeck sales[/p][/quote]get your facts right he hasnt taken it back yet,delph money went to pay the loss from last year for not going up 2storey

10:57pm Sat 6 Feb 10

skyblogger says...

ha ha ha, easily fooled. whats happened to all ticket sales then?

or colbecks 85k?

may as well get ticket sales like accrington stanley, our fans cant add up.
ha ha ha, easily fooled. whats happened to all ticket sales then? or colbecks 85k? may as well get ticket sales like accrington stanley, our fans cant add up. skyblogger

10:58pm Sat 6 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

gspot wrote:
2storey wrote:
bantambelle wrote:
2storey wrote:
bantambelle wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
bantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.
you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break
yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment
oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.
he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant
if what your saying is right then why did Lawn agree to a extension last year??
EXACTLY MY POINT. McCall gets hung for bad decisions why can't Lawn take some of the blame he employed him. Surely poor judgement on Lawns half and then to compound it all by begging him to stay as well as getting the fans to put pressure on him to stay. But alas to some he can do no wrong but i will say he is walking a very thin rope now and he may yet soon fall
[quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.[/p][/quote]you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would[/p][/quote]you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break[/p][/quote]yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment[/p][/quote]oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.[/p][/quote]he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant[/p][/quote]if what your saying is right then why did Lawn agree to a extension last year??[/p][/quote]EXACTLY MY POINT. McCall gets hung for bad decisions why can't Lawn take some of the blame he employed him. Surely poor judgement on Lawns half and then to compound it all by begging him to stay as well as getting the fans to put pressure on him to stay. But alas to some he can do no wrong but i will say he is walking a very thin rope now and he may yet soon fall macca1969

10:58pm Sat 6 Feb 10

gspot says...

2storey wrote:
skyblogger wrote: no need for name calling, please get your facts right. the loan was not an investment. that why its called a loan and that why it was withdrew once we received funds regarding the delph and colbeck sales
get your facts right he hasnt taken it back yet,delph money went to pay the loss from last year for not going up
not taken it back yet??? so he will take it back...maybe from the ticket sales giving us even less of a budget for next year...loads of bosses will want the job based on that!!!
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skyblogger[/bold] wrote: no need for name calling, please get your facts right. the loan was not an investment. that why its called a loan and that why it was withdrew once we received funds regarding the delph and colbeck sales[/p][/quote]get your facts right he hasnt taken it back yet,delph money went to pay the loss from last year for not going up[/p][/quote]not taken it back yet??? so he will take it back...maybe from the ticket sales giving us even less of a budget for next year...loads of bosses will want the job based on that!!! gspot

10:59pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Clamber says...

2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.
2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey. Clamber

11:01pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

skyblogger wrote:
ha ha ha, easily fooled. whats happened to all ticket sales then? or colbecks 85k? may as well get ticket sales like accrington stanley, our fans cant add up.
£85k are you having a joke, i think you should start going to some fans forums, more like £25k, ticket sales 9000 at £135 each, that was mccall wage
[quote][p][bold]skyblogger[/bold] wrote: ha ha ha, easily fooled. whats happened to all ticket sales then? or colbecks 85k? may as well get ticket sales like accrington stanley, our fans cant add up.[/p][/quote]£85k are you having a joke, i think you should start going to some fans forums, more like £25k, ticket sales 9000 at £135 each, that was mccall wage 2storey

11:02pm Sat 6 Feb 10

skyblogger says...

lawn out now!

we need a real investor not a loaner that has brung unrest to city since his appointment both on and off the park
lawn out now! we need a real investor not a loaner that has brung unrest to city since his appointment both on and off the park skyblogger

11:04pm Sat 6 Feb 10

skyblogger says...

even more reason to stand down then - lawn relation

no more loans, we need a real investor!
even more reason to stand down then - lawn relation no more loans, we need a real investor! skyblogger

11:05pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

macca1969 wrote:
gspot wrote:
2storey wrote:
bantambelle wrote:
2storey wrote:
bantambelle wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
bantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.
you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break
yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment
oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.
he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant
if what your saying is right then why did Lawn agree to a extension last year??
EXACTLY MY POINT. McCall gets hung for bad decisions why can't Lawn take some of the blame he employed him. Surely poor judgement on Lawns half and then to compound it all by begging him to stay as well as getting the fans to put pressure on him to stay. But alas to some he can do no wrong but i will say he is walking a very thin rope now and he may yet soon fall
lawn and rhodes employed him, have you forgotton we have 2 chairmen
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.[/p][/quote]you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would[/p][/quote]you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break[/p][/quote]yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment[/p][/quote]oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.[/p][/quote]he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant[/p][/quote]if what your saying is right then why did Lawn agree to a extension last year??[/p][/quote]EXACTLY MY POINT. McCall gets hung for bad decisions why can't Lawn take some of the blame he employed him. Surely poor judgement on Lawns half and then to compound it all by begging him to stay as well as getting the fans to put pressure on him to stay. But alas to some he can do no wrong but i will say he is walking a very thin rope now and he may yet soon fall[/p][/quote]lawn and rhodes employed him, have you forgotton we have 2 chairmen 2storey

11:08pm Sat 6 Feb 10

skyblogger says...

blame jr - mr lawn, all you wan, he was not the one back stabbing mccall at every opportunity,

time you joined mccall.

time to go!
blame jr - mr lawn, all you wan, he was not the one back stabbing mccall at every opportunity, time you joined mccall. time to go! skyblogger

11:10pm Sat 6 Feb 10

skyblogger says...

mark lawn was the worst appointment in citys history.

you never give a man 49% stake in a company that has no money to invest.

move over mark and allow a real investor the chance to invest
mark lawn was the worst appointment in citys history. you never give a man 49% stake in a company that has no money to invest. move over mark and allow a real investor the chance to invest skyblogger

11:12pm Sat 6 Feb 10

gspot says...

2storey wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
gspot wrote:
2storey wrote:
bantambelle wrote:
2storey wrote:
bantambelle wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote:
bantambelle wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.
you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would
you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break
yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment
oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.
he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant
if what your saying is right then why did Lawn agree to a extension last year??
EXACTLY MY POINT. McCall gets hung for bad decisions why can't Lawn take some of the blame he employed him. Surely poor judgement on Lawns half and then to compound it all by begging him to stay as well as getting the fans to put pressure on him to stay. But alas to some he can do no wrong but i will say he is walking a very thin rope now and he may yet soon fall
lawn and rhodes employed him, have you forgotton we have 2 chairmen
before i comment i admit that lawn helped us when needed most but rhodes as proved his worth to this club many times over so to try and now pass the book to him isn't morally right.....you make it sound like lawn should been seen as a saviour and not take the flak when it comes his way.

if you're close to lawn and i suspect you are you aint doing him many favours on here.

lets all bow down to lawn and chuck the stones at rhodes seems to be your stance....the only people who can say they have done their true best for this club is rhodes and mccall at least in my generation which spans back 20 years.
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: For anyone who doubts Stuart McCall's commitment to our club... McCall wrote his autobiography in 1998, read page 184. It says it all and i'm really sad for him that it didn't quite come true despite him giving his best shot with what resources he had.[/p][/quote]you missed the part of all the resources he wanted he was given everything he wanted and didnt do anything. he was a good player but he is no manager and if he really caired about the club he would have walked last year like he said he would[/p][/quote]you missed the word 'limited' in your comment. he wasn't given everything he wanted. paycuts, having to let good players go, staff cuts etc....if mccall had the same resources thrown at him as other former player managers such as jewell or kamara then he could have achieved much more. He cared, he tried, he's managed to get a good set of cheap talented capable young players, give him a break[/p][/quote]yeh and if he had the budgets that they had were would the club be, we have sensible chairmen now not like richmond. think before you comment[/p][/quote]oh please! don't remember many complaining when we were at wembley or in the premiership. McCall has tried his best for us on the resources he has. He could have done more with more resources but he didn't. Finding someone to follow in his footsteps, care about our club and achieve miracles will be a hard find.[/p][/quote]he has had the resources, he just didnt know how to use them, how do accrington stanley manage on there budget. bring in avrant grant[/p][/quote]if what your saying is right then why did Lawn agree to a extension last year??[/p][/quote]EXACTLY MY POINT. McCall gets hung for bad decisions why can't Lawn take some of the blame he employed him. Surely poor judgement on Lawns half and then to compound it all by begging him to stay as well as getting the fans to put pressure on him to stay. But alas to some he can do no wrong but i will say he is walking a very thin rope now and he may yet soon fall[/p][/quote]lawn and rhodes employed him, have you forgotton we have 2 chairmen[/p][/quote]before i comment i admit that lawn helped us when needed most but rhodes as proved his worth to this club many times over so to try and now pass the book to him isn't morally right.....you make it sound like lawn should been seen as a saviour and not take the flak when it comes his way. if you're close to lawn and i suspect you are you aint doing him many favours on here. lets all bow down to lawn and chuck the stones at rhodes seems to be your stance....the only people who can say they have done their true best for this club is rhodes and mccall at least in my generation which spans back 20 years. gspot

11:13pm Sat 6 Feb 10

lonniejockstrap says...

Lets be reasonable guys and gals, Lawn and Rhodes have NOT sacked Stuart. Stuart has decide to resign -rightly or wrongly- because he thinks it is in the best interests of the Club. That just underlines what a exceptional, selfless individual we have lost.
Lets be reasonable guys and gals, Lawn and Rhodes have NOT sacked Stuart. Stuart has decide to resign -rightly or wrongly- because he thinks it is in the best interests of the Club. That just underlines what a exceptional, selfless individual we have lost. lonniejockstrap

11:19pm Sat 6 Feb 10

skyblogger says...

well said gspot, it seemd people close to lawn are quite happy to slate JR or mccall for that matter despite showing little commitment themselves.

mark lawn is all talk, face in paper etc etc when its rosey but hides behind mccall when not.

Then blames everyone bar himself.
well said gspot, it seemd people close to lawn are quite happy to slate JR or mccall for that matter despite showing little commitment themselves. mark lawn is all talk, face in paper etc etc when its rosey but hides behind mccall when not. Then blames everyone bar himself. skyblogger

11:20pm Sat 6 Feb 10

gspot says...

2storey wrote:
Clamber wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.
no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.
so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the club
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clamber[/bold] wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.[/p][/quote]no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.[/p][/quote]so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the club gspot

11:20pm Sat 6 Feb 10

dannbradfc says...

A VERY SAD DAY FOR ALL TRUE CITY FANS.

to all those who have given him abuse and often insane non-sensical rubbish i hope you are happy.

I also hope that you all apply for the job as you obviously believe you can do a better job. At least you would surely be able to take the flak you have thrown at Stuart, some of it for nigh on two seasons, or would you?

You are a disgrace most of you and will now have nothing to coment on. No obviously thats not true as you can now TARGET your next player and then perhaps 6 months down the line the next manager.

Waynus for manager
Brownsauceman for assistant
Shaunthe sheep for kit man
Lawnforever in rampton for urgent brain surgery
A VERY SAD DAY FOR ALL TRUE CITY FANS. to all those who have given him abuse and often insane non-sensical rubbish i hope you are happy. I also hope that you all apply for the job as you obviously believe you can do a better job. At least you would surely be able to take the flak you have thrown at Stuart, some of it for nigh on two seasons, or would you? You are a disgrace most of you and will now have nothing to coment on. No obviously thats not true as you can now TARGET your next player and then perhaps 6 months down the line the next manager. Waynus for manager Brownsauceman for assistant Shaunthe sheep for kit man Lawnforever in rampton for urgent brain surgery dannbradfc

11:25pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

gspot wrote:
2storey wrote:
Clamber wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.
no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.
so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the club
i do have respect for mccall as a player but not a manager, he should have gone last year, and i am not slating rhodes either, all i said it is joint decisions as chairmen, so why blame 1 chairman
[quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clamber[/bold] wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.[/p][/quote]no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.[/p][/quote]so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the club[/p][/quote]i do have respect for mccall as a player but not a manager, he should have gone last year, and i am not slating rhodes either, all i said it is joint decisions as chairmen, so why blame 1 chairman 2storey

11:33pm Sat 6 Feb 10

skyblogger says...

lawn has no money, no pr skills, is certainly not a good ambasador for our club, blames everyone else,

why should we put all the blame on mccall? what real investment (not loan that was repaid) has mark made into team affairs?

JR has kept us afloat, mark has just came along for the ride, no real investments, just a loan!
lawn has no money, no pr skills, is certainly not a good ambasador for our club, blames everyone else, why should we put all the blame on mccall? what real investment (not loan that was repaid) has mark made into team affairs? JR has kept us afloat, mark has just came along for the ride, no real investments, just a loan! skyblogger

11:36pm Sat 6 Feb 10

gspot says...

2storey wrote:
gspot wrote:
2storey wrote:
Clamber wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.
no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.
so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the club
i do have respect for mccall as a player but not a manager, he should have gone last year, and i am not slating rhodes either, all i said it is joint decisions as chairmen, so why blame 1 chairman
but if what you are saying is correct and you have confirmed it on more then 1 occasion tonight then lawns money was only a loan and will take it back at some point...u said above that he hasn't taken it back yet which makes one assume he will be doing so. Surely for someone to invest money means something different then to give a loan?? for all i know you may be basing all this on non facts which if is true then all is good and well but i personally believe what you are saying is right (based on what you've said) so if this is the case what as he actually invested??
i will point out again my support for lawn but it doesn't stand good in the long term of the club and surely financially will only get worse??
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clamber[/bold] wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.[/p][/quote]no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.[/p][/quote]so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the club[/p][/quote]i do have respect for mccall as a player but not a manager, he should have gone last year, and i am not slating rhodes either, all i said it is joint decisions as chairmen, so why blame 1 chairman[/p][/quote]but if what you are saying is correct and you have confirmed it on more then 1 occasion tonight then lawns money was only a loan and will take it back at some point...u said above that he hasn't taken it back yet which makes one assume he will be doing so. Surely for someone to invest money means something different then to give a loan?? for all i know you may be basing all this on non facts which if is true then all is good and well but i personally believe what you are saying is right (based on what you've said) so if this is the case what as he actually invested?? i will point out again my support for lawn but it doesn't stand good in the long term of the club and surely financially will only get worse?? gspot

11:37pm Sat 6 Feb 10

fatbloke says...

For any true City fan the day Stuart McCall leaves Valley Parade is a sad one.
It maybe the best thing for the club and if so lets move on, but it is still very very sad indeed.
Some people may be glad to see the back of him, but surely they must wish things had been different?
If not they either have personal grudges against him or are not City fans.
I can't believe people no matter what they think of his coaching techniques can slate the guy, it beggers belief.
Here are the reasons why I think he hasnt been succesful in order.
1) No experience to help him ie No.2
2) I think he has over complicated things, keep it simple.
3) When it has been kept simple in a 442 sqaure pegs in round holes, for example Evans on right today and Hanson on left in second half with Brandon & Nielson on bench?
4) He has not had the rub of the green
5) Are we sent poor refs to VP on purpose.
I am very suspicious that on the day McCall quotes twice on the radio Julian Rhodes the chairmen (as if there is only ONE) we have a new poster on here 'Lawn for ever' slating the hell out of McCall.
If McCall moves on I wish him all the very best, for people to come on slating him, Julian or Mark makes me wanna go watch Leeds & Pappa Smurf (as if)........
Lets see what Monday brings.....
If it ends here is my prediction...
This is based on a new replacemnt been appointed in the summer.
I think 2 from the following 3 will take charge till the end of the season
Windass, Dolan & Mark Ellis.
I want to put my hat into the ring, I think I would still reach the play off's.
For any true City fan the day Stuart McCall leaves Valley Parade is a sad one. It maybe the best thing for the club and if so lets move on, but it is still very very sad indeed. Some people may be glad to see the back of him, but surely they must wish things had been different? If not they either have personal grudges against him or are not City fans. I can't believe people no matter what they think of his coaching techniques can slate the guy, it beggers belief. Here are the reasons why I think he hasnt been succesful in order. 1) No experience to help him ie No.2 2) I think he has over complicated things, keep it simple. 3) When it has been kept simple in a 442 sqaure pegs in round holes, for example Evans on right today and Hanson on left in second half with Brandon & Nielson on bench? 4) He has not had the rub of the green 5) Are we sent poor refs to VP on purpose. I am very suspicious that on the day McCall quotes twice on the radio Julian Rhodes the chairmen (as if there is only ONE) we have a new poster on here 'Lawn for ever' slating the hell out of McCall. If McCall moves on I wish him all the very best, for people to come on slating him, Julian or Mark makes me wanna go watch Leeds & Pappa Smurf (as if)........ Lets see what Monday brings..... If it ends here is my prediction... This is based on a new replacemnt been appointed in the summer. I think 2 from the following 3 will take charge till the end of the season Windass, Dolan & Mark Ellis. I want to put my hat into the ring, I think I would still reach the play off's. fatbloke

11:38pm Sat 6 Feb 10

lonniejockstrap says...

2storey wrote:
gspot wrote:
2storey wrote:
Clamber wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.
no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.
so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the club
i do have respect for mccall as a player but not a manager, he should have gone last year, and i am not slating rhodes either, all i said it is joint decisions as chairmen, so why blame 1 chairman
'Respect for mccall as a player but not a manager'. What about McCall as a person ? Talk about clueless supporters!
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clamber[/bold] wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.[/p][/quote]no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.[/p][/quote]so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the club[/p][/quote]i do have respect for mccall as a player but not a manager, he should have gone last year, and i am not slating rhodes either, all i said it is joint decisions as chairmen, so why blame 1 chairman[/p][/quote]'Respect for mccall as a player but not a manager'. What about McCall as a person ? Talk about clueless supporters! lonniejockstrap

11:47pm Sat 6 Feb 10

dannbradfc says...

People should start to pay attention. been on about Lawn situation for some time. there are some stories around Stu's tenure i believe that have not been adequately explained, finances are one, Topp, Eastward, Rehman amongst others. I don't think Stu will tell the truth if he thinks it would damage the club because he loves city, but he obviously has great respect for Rhodes which is the most likely reason he will present his resignation to him. he knows Rhodes is a true city man who has taken risks and jeopadised his personal life for the love of the club.

A short time ago i played with the idea on here that perhaps there was a split amongst Rhodes and Lawn with Rhodes perhaps siding with STu. This was only conjecture and something i throw in to discuss. perhaps though it may not be far from the truth? Been asking for the beaming red face of Lawn to speak for a while but we hear nothing. Nothing since the delph loan!! (which was a huge gamble relying on a sale of a player to finance the club). Yes we needed Lawn at the time and he was a saviour of the club but now its time he moved on or found investors who will do exactly that INVEST in the club. Or you fickle moaners wil be happy for some time to come because manager after manager wil be in the same position.

I'm gutted today but can state that i am not 'lashing' out at Lawn as someone to blame. I have been probably the first on this site to question his role and sudden silence/disappearanc
e some months back and untill i hear something i will continue to question this area of the club. Is Stu a fall-guy?? In many ways the answer is yes. he was swept along by his own passion and self belief but also in part by the noises from others and who knows what promises. The results did not go as we wanted obviously but Stu i believe as left us in a better position as a club than when he came.

We were in free-fall. Too many managers, too high expectations. No money. Too many loans players. No transfer fee's paid.

We now we are led to believe financially stable. We have players we can cal our own. Many of these players are young and can and in many cases will progress.

Stu has been unlucky in many many games. Even today we had far more chances than them yet lose. Had a defo penalty on Clarke by sodje not given and in many ways it summed up Stu's tenure.

I genuinely am as gutted as i have been for a long while. I still hope Julian turns down Stu's request which would be very interesting, but in my heart watching Stu wander round the pitch at the end of the game i knew he was gone.

I've a funny feeling that STu will be back one day in some capacity. His love for the club his too strong. He should be given the equivalent of a Bradford knighthood and an open-top bus parade. The guy is and always will be a legend.

Thank you Stuart for all the many many happy memorys.
People should start to pay attention. been on about Lawn situation for some time. there are some stories around Stu's tenure i believe that have not been adequately explained, finances are one, Topp, Eastward, Rehman amongst others. I don't think Stu will tell the truth if he thinks it would damage the club because he loves city, but he obviously has great respect for Rhodes which is the most likely reason he will present his resignation to him. he knows Rhodes is a true city man who has taken risks and jeopadised his personal life for the love of the club. A short time ago i played with the idea on here that perhaps there was a split amongst Rhodes and Lawn with Rhodes perhaps siding with STu. This was only conjecture and something i throw in to discuss. perhaps though it may not be far from the truth? Been asking for the beaming red face of Lawn to speak for a while but we hear nothing. Nothing since the delph loan!! (which was a huge gamble relying on a sale of a player to finance the club). Yes we needed Lawn at the time and he was a saviour of the club but now its time he moved on or found investors who will do exactly that INVEST in the club. Or you fickle moaners wil be happy for some time to come because manager after manager wil be in the same position. I'm gutted today but can state that i am not 'lashing' out at Lawn as someone to blame. I have been probably the first on this site to question his role and sudden silence/disappearanc e some months back and untill i hear something i will continue to question this area of the club. Is Stu a fall-guy?? In many ways the answer is yes. he was swept along by his own passion and self belief but also in part by the noises from others and who knows what promises. The results did not go as we wanted obviously but Stu i believe as left us in a better position as a club than when he came. We were in free-fall. Too many managers, too high expectations. No money. Too many loans players. No transfer fee's paid. We now we are led to believe financially stable. We have players we can cal our own. Many of these players are young and can and in many cases will progress. Stu has been unlucky in many many games. Even today we had far more chances than them yet lose. Had a defo penalty on Clarke by sodje not given and in many ways it summed up Stu's tenure. I genuinely am as gutted as i have been for a long while. I still hope Julian turns down Stu's request which would be very interesting, but in my heart watching Stu wander round the pitch at the end of the game i knew he was gone. I've a funny feeling that STu will be back one day in some capacity. His love for the club his too strong. He should be given the equivalent of a Bradford knighthood and an open-top bus parade. The guy is and always will be a legend. Thank you Stuart for all the many many happy memorys. dannbradfc

11:48pm Sat 6 Feb 10

shaun from richmond says...

fatbloke wrote:
For any true City fan the day Stuart McCall leaves Valley Parade is a sad one. It maybe the best thing for the club and if so lets move on, but it is still very very sad indeed. Some people may be glad to see the back of him, but surely they must wish things had been different? If not they either have personal grudges against him or are not City fans. I can't believe people no matter what they think of his coaching techniques can slate the guy, it beggers belief. Here are the reasons why I think he hasnt been succesful in order. 1) No experience to help him ie No.2 2) I think he has over complicated things, keep it simple. 3) When it has been kept simple in a 442 sqaure pegs in round holes, for example Evans on right today and Hanson on left in second half with Brandon & Nielson on bench? 4) He has not had the rub of the green 5) Are we sent poor refs to VP on purpose. I am very suspicious that on the day McCall quotes twice on the radio Julian Rhodes the chairmen (as if there is only ONE) we have a new poster on here 'Lawn for ever' slating the hell out of McCall. If McCall moves on I wish him all the very best, for people to come on slating him, Julian or Mark makes me wanna go watch Leeds & Pappa Smurf (as if)........ Lets see what Monday brings..... If it ends here is my prediction... This is based on a new replacemnt been appointed in the summer. I think 2 from the following 3 will take charge till the end of the season Windass, Dolan & Mark Ellis. I want to put my hat into the ring, I think I would still reach the play off's.
I have to say Fatbloke........You had it right with Ramsden!!
You have been saying on here for the last 3 months he should have put him in Central defence....And he played well today, and made Clarke have a good game!!
However a decent coach will sort out that back line!
You could see that just watching training on Friday Afternoon!! Thats why we wont miss McCall (as aCoach)
[quote][p][bold]fatbloke[/bold] wrote: For any true City fan the day Stuart McCall leaves Valley Parade is a sad one. It maybe the best thing for the club and if so lets move on, but it is still very very sad indeed. Some people may be glad to see the back of him, but surely they must wish things had been different? If not they either have personal grudges against him or are not City fans. I can't believe people no matter what they think of his coaching techniques can slate the guy, it beggers belief. Here are the reasons why I think he hasnt been succesful in order. 1) No experience to help him ie No.2 2) I think he has over complicated things, keep it simple. 3) When it has been kept simple in a 442 sqaure pegs in round holes, for example Evans on right today and Hanson on left in second half with Brandon & Nielson on bench? 4) He has not had the rub of the green 5) Are we sent poor refs to VP on purpose. I am very suspicious that on the day McCall quotes twice on the radio Julian Rhodes the chairmen (as if there is only ONE) we have a new poster on here 'Lawn for ever' slating the hell out of McCall. If McCall moves on I wish him all the very best, for people to come on slating him, Julian or Mark makes me wanna go watch Leeds & Pappa Smurf (as if)........ Lets see what Monday brings..... If it ends here is my prediction... This is based on a new replacemnt been appointed in the summer. I think 2 from the following 3 will take charge till the end of the season Windass, Dolan & Mark Ellis. I want to put my hat into the ring, I think I would still reach the play off's.[/p][/quote]I have to say Fatbloke........You had it right with Ramsden!! You have been saying on here for the last 3 months he should have put him in Central defence....And he played well today, and made Clarke have a good game!! However a decent coach will sort out that back line! You could see that just watching training on Friday Afternoon!! Thats why we wont miss McCall (as aCoach) shaun from richmond

11:49pm Sat 6 Feb 10

vglimmer says...

GUTTED - GUTTED FOR MCCALL AND GUTTED FOR BRADFORD CITY... A DARK DAY IN OUR HISTORY.... ALL THE BEST STUART XXX
GUTTED - GUTTED FOR MCCALL AND GUTTED FOR BRADFORD CITY... A DARK DAY IN OUR HISTORY.... ALL THE BEST STUART XXX vglimmer

11:49pm Sat 6 Feb 10

2storey says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
2storey wrote:
gspot wrote:
2storey wrote:
Clamber wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.
no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.
so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the club
i do have respect for mccall as a player but not a manager, he should have gone last year, and i am not slating rhodes either, all i said it is joint decisions as chairmen, so why blame 1 chairman
'Respect for mccall as a player but not a manager'. What about McCall as a person ? Talk about clueless supporters!
ok a very nice guy too, and a wonderful dad. what more can i say
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clamber[/bold] wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.[/p][/quote]no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.[/p][/quote]so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the club[/p][/quote]i do have respect for mccall as a player but not a manager, he should have gone last year, and i am not slating rhodes either, all i said it is joint decisions as chairmen, so why blame 1 chairman[/p][/quote]'Respect for mccall as a player but not a manager'. What about McCall as a person ? Talk about clueless supporters![/p][/quote]ok a very nice guy too, and a wonderful dad. what more can i say 2storey

11:54pm Sat 6 Feb 10

gspot says...

dannbradfc wrote:
People should start to pay attention. been on about Lawn situation for some time. there are some stories around Stu's tenure i believe that have not been adequately explained, finances are one, Topp, Eastward, Rehman amongst others. I don't think Stu will tell the truth if he thinks it would damage the club because he loves city, but he obviously has great respect for Rhodes which is the most likely reason he will present his resignation to him. he knows Rhodes is a true city man who has taken risks and jeopadised his personal life for the love of the club. A short time ago i played with the idea on here that perhaps there was a split amongst Rhodes and Lawn with Rhodes perhaps siding with STu. This was only conjecture and something i throw in to discuss. perhaps though it may not be far from the truth? Been asking for the beaming red face of Lawn to speak for a while but we hear nothing. Nothing since the delph loan!! (which was a huge gamble relying on a sale of a player to finance the club). Yes we needed Lawn at the time and he was a saviour of the club but now its time he moved on or found investors who will do exactly that INVEST in the club. Or you fickle moaners wil be happy for some time to come because manager after manager wil be in the same position. I'm gutted today but can state that i am not 'lashing' out at Lawn as someone to blame. I have been probably the first on this site to question his role and sudden silence/disappearanc e some months back and untill i hear something i will continue to question this area of the club. Is Stu a fall-guy?? In many ways the answer is yes. he was swept along by his own passion and self belief but also in part by the noises from others and who knows what promises. The results did not go as we wanted obviously but Stu i believe as left us in a better position as a club than when he came. We were in free-fall. Too many managers, too high expectations. No money. Too many loans players. No transfer fee's paid. We now we are led to believe financially stable. We have players we can cal our own. Many of these players are young and can and in many cases will progress. Stu has been unlucky in many many games. Even today we had far more chances than them yet lose. Had a defo penalty on Clarke by sodje not given and in many ways it summed up Stu's tenure. I genuinely am as gutted as i have been for a long while. I still hope Julian turns down Stu's request which would be very interesting, but in my heart watching Stu wander round the pitch at the end of the game i knew he was gone. I've a funny feeling that STu will be back one day in some capacity. His love for the club his too strong. He should be given the equivalent of a Bradford knighthood and an open-top bus parade. The guy is and always will be a legend. Thank you Stuart for all the many many happy memorys.
very well put indeed and until tonight with the appearance of Lawnforever and Storey2 (his sidekick) i believe you are right. Maybe once Stu sits down and thinks about all the wrongs of his tenure (both on and off the field) he will realise that it was an impossible job and won't beat himself up so much. I already feel sorry for the next guy and i think somebody who frequently visits the club and is pally pally with important people will be in charge very soon.
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: People should start to pay attention. been on about Lawn situation for some time. there are some stories around Stu's tenure i believe that have not been adequately explained, finances are one, Topp, Eastward, Rehman amongst others. I don't think Stu will tell the truth if he thinks it would damage the club because he loves city, but he obviously has great respect for Rhodes which is the most likely reason he will present his resignation to him. he knows Rhodes is a true city man who has taken risks and jeopadised his personal life for the love of the club. A short time ago i played with the idea on here that perhaps there was a split amongst Rhodes and Lawn with Rhodes perhaps siding with STu. This was only conjecture and something i throw in to discuss. perhaps though it may not be far from the truth? Been asking for the beaming red face of Lawn to speak for a while but we hear nothing. Nothing since the delph loan!! (which was a huge gamble relying on a sale of a player to finance the club). Yes we needed Lawn at the time and he was a saviour of the club but now its time he moved on or found investors who will do exactly that INVEST in the club. Or you fickle moaners wil be happy for some time to come because manager after manager wil be in the same position. I'm gutted today but can state that i am not 'lashing' out at Lawn as someone to blame. I have been probably the first on this site to question his role and sudden silence/disappearanc e some months back and untill i hear something i will continue to question this area of the club. Is Stu a fall-guy?? In many ways the answer is yes. he was swept along by his own passion and self belief but also in part by the noises from others and who knows what promises. The results did not go as we wanted obviously but Stu i believe as left us in a better position as a club than when he came. We were in free-fall. Too many managers, too high expectations. No money. Too many loans players. No transfer fee's paid. We now we are led to believe financially stable. We have players we can cal our own. Many of these players are young and can and in many cases will progress. Stu has been unlucky in many many games. Even today we had far more chances than them yet lose. Had a defo penalty on Clarke by sodje not given and in many ways it summed up Stu's tenure. I genuinely am as gutted as i have been for a long while. I still hope Julian turns down Stu's request which would be very interesting, but in my heart watching Stu wander round the pitch at the end of the game i knew he was gone. I've a funny feeling that STu will be back one day in some capacity. His love for the club his too strong. He should be given the equivalent of a Bradford knighthood and an open-top bus parade. The guy is and always will be a legend. Thank you Stuart for all the many many happy memorys.[/p][/quote]very well put indeed and until tonight with the appearance of Lawnforever and Storey2 (his sidekick) i believe you are right. Maybe once Stu sits down and thinks about all the wrongs of his tenure (both on and off the field) he will realise that it was an impossible job and won't beat himself up so much. I already feel sorry for the next guy and i think somebody who frequently visits the club and is pally pally with important people will be in charge very soon. gspot

11:58pm Sat 6 Feb 10

Rodney_Munch says...

So to all the pond life who have been spouting vile comments about the man, you have at last got what you wanted. You can now play your clever games and start your polls about who you want as the new manager.
Of course you are the true supporters, the ones with the finger on the pulse. The ones who leave 10 minutes before the end of the game, because you've earned the right to do that. The ones who fill up forums and message boards with constructive comments backed up with a reasoned rationale. The ones who make me feel so proud to be a supporter. You make me sick.
I know of no word that could adequately be used to describe, how much Stuart McCall means to me and the majority of long suffering City fans. As someone has already alluded to, the term 'Legend' is not even close.
I have always dreaded that this day would eventually arrive. Seeing him after the game today made me think back to the days my father first began taking me to VP, in the latter stages of Roy McFarland’s time at the club. I can still see Stuart tirelessly working away in that midfield (I am told he made his debut as a right back). That is how I will choose to remember him. Thank you Stuart.
So to all the pond life who have been spouting vile comments about the man, you have at last got what you wanted. You can now play your clever games and start your polls about who you want as the new manager. Of course you are the true supporters, the ones with the finger on the pulse. The ones who leave 10 minutes before the end of the game, because you've earned the right to do that. The ones who fill up forums and message boards with constructive comments backed up with a reasoned rationale. The ones who make me feel so proud to be a supporter. You make me sick. I know of no word that could adequately be used to describe, how much Stuart McCall means to me and the majority of long suffering City fans. As someone has already alluded to, the term 'Legend' is not even close. I have always dreaded that this day would eventually arrive. Seeing him after the game today made me think back to the days my father first began taking me to VP, in the latter stages of Roy McFarland’s time at the club. I can still see Stuart tirelessly working away in that midfield (I am told he made his debut as a right back). That is how I will choose to remember him. Thank you Stuart. Rodney_Munch

11:58pm Sat 6 Feb 10

skyblogger says...

I agree, a frequent visitor who is pally pally is already lined up. After all it is lawns side kick.
I agree, a frequent visitor who is pally pally is already lined up. After all it is lawns side kick. skyblogger

12:00am Sun 7 Feb 10

lonniejockstrap says...

2storey wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
2storey wrote:
gspot wrote:
2storey wrote:
Clamber wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.
no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.
so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the club
i do have respect for mccall as a player but not a manager, he should have gone last year, and i am not slating rhodes either, all i said it is joint decisions as chairmen, so why blame 1 chairman
'Respect for mccall as a player but not a manager'. What about McCall as a person ? Talk about clueless supporters!
ok a very nice guy too, and a wonderful dad. what more can i say
If I have to explain, you would never understand.
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gspot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clamber[/bold] wrote: 2storey in one of your many one-sided rants you state "enough is enough" well it was for me! If you are going to insult someone by calling them a moron then at least spell it correctly. You wrote moran!!! I reckon you must be a close relation of Lawn's. Stuart if you actually read this stuff, and you'd be forgiven if you didn't- we love you and always will. I speak for all City fans who have a heart and a brain- that clearly excludes you 2storey.[/p][/quote]no relation but just respect the man for getting my club out of the sh1t when he did, and i could never slag a guy of for doing that. alot of people on here are very blinkered.[/p][/quote]so you have no respect for stu then?? for putting his heart and soul into the club[/p][/quote]i do have respect for mccall as a player but not a manager, he should have gone last year, and i am not slating rhodes either, all i said it is joint decisions as chairmen, so why blame 1 chairman[/p][/quote]'Respect for mccall as a player but not a manager'. What about McCall as a person ? Talk about clueless supporters![/p][/quote]ok a very nice guy too, and a wonderful dad. what more can i say[/p][/quote]If I have to explain, you would never understand. lonniejockstrap

12:06am Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey says...

skyblogger wrote:
I agree, a frequent visitor who is pally pally is already lined up. After all it is lawns side kick.
are we talking windas here
[quote][p][bold]skyblogger[/bold] wrote: I agree, a frequent visitor who is pally pally is already lined up. After all it is lawns side kick.[/p][/quote]are we talking windas here 2storey

12:07am Sun 7 Feb 10

fatbloke says...

Cheers Shaun re Ramsden. It wasn't just from watching training though it was from the JPT when we won away 2-1, think it was Rochdale. That night he was very very good.
I think McCall has put too much faith in players that have let him down too often, Rehman to name 1 who I think is worse then Clarke.
I also think he should have kept Evans on his toes and not started him today just because of what he did at Torquay (especially out of position).
I still think it is a sad sad day. I aint saying he should go neither am I saying he should stay, I dont know what to think at the moment.
I have said it before that until I see his replacement could I comment on whever he should stay or not but by then it would be too late anyhow.
McCall will always remain the most famous name I can relate to at VP in my life time and just wish it could have been different.
I also agree with comments above that all is not right behind the scenes, something to do with the joint chairmen not agreeing on things, who actually has the final say (not re McCall, just in general) or is it 50/50?
Cheers Shaun re Ramsden. It wasn't just from watching training though it was from the JPT when we won away 2-1, think it was Rochdale. That night he was very very good. I think McCall has put too much faith in players that have let him down too often, Rehman to name 1 who I think is worse then Clarke. I also think he should have kept Evans on his toes and not started him today just because of what he did at Torquay (especially out of position). I still think it is a sad sad day. I aint saying he should go neither am I saying he should stay, I dont know what to think at the moment. I have said it before that until I see his replacement could I comment on whever he should stay or not but by then it would be too late anyhow. McCall will always remain the most famous name I can relate to at VP in my life time and just wish it could have been different. I also agree with comments above that all is not right behind the scenes, something to do with the joint chairmen not agreeing on things, who actually has the final say (not re McCall, just in general) or is it 50/50? fatbloke

12:11am Sun 7 Feb 10

dannbradfc says...

2storey wrote:
skyblogger wrote: I agree, a frequent visitor who is pally pally is already lined up. After all it is lawns side kick.
are we talking windas here
Is this the same Windass who co-managed Darlington? Its started already ;)
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skyblogger[/bold] wrote: I agree, a frequent visitor who is pally pally is already lined up. After all it is lawns side kick.[/p][/quote]are we talking windas here[/p][/quote]Is this the same Windass who co-managed Darlington? Its started already ;) dannbradfc

12:14am Sun 7 Feb 10

Spenvalleyspartan says...

A sad day but a day that has long been overdue I'm afraid. Stuart will always be a legend in my eyes but a manager he ain't. I just wish it had worked out. Kind of "Roy of the Rovers stuff". The local hero coming back to take us to glory but it just wasn't to be. Good luck Stuart in whatever the future holds for you and thanks for the effort.
Lets look at todays match. Why oh why did Stuart put Hanson on the wing when it was obvious that Boulding was struggling with the physical battle with the Bury centre backs. Hanson should have been the pivitol presence up front holding the ball up not the lightweight Boulding!! Daley was a passenger today and Stuart should have had him off at half time. Just ask Flynny! Too many square pegs in round holes has cost Stuart his job.
As far as who would be our next manager is concerned I'd go for Jacko with his experience of getting Scummersfield out of this division. Not interested what he's said in the past. It what happens on the pitch that counts.
A sad day but a day that has long been overdue I'm afraid. Stuart will always be a legend in my eyes but a manager he ain't. I just wish it had worked out. Kind of "Roy of the Rovers stuff". The local hero coming back to take us to glory but it just wasn't to be. Good luck Stuart in whatever the future holds for you and thanks for the effort. Lets look at todays match. Why oh why did Stuart put Hanson on the wing when it was obvious that Boulding was struggling with the physical battle with the Bury centre backs. Hanson should have been the pivitol presence up front holding the ball up not the lightweight Boulding!! Daley was a passenger today and Stuart should have had him off at half time. Just ask Flynny! Too many square pegs in round holes has cost Stuart his job. As far as who would be our next manager is concerned I'd go for Jacko with his experience of getting Scummersfield out of this division. Not interested what he's said in the past. It what happens on the pitch that counts. Spenvalleyspartan

12:14am Sun 7 Feb 10

Soulman says...

NOT GOING TO ENTER INTO ALL THIS RECRIMINATION ACTIVITY WHICH IS LIKE SOME FORM OF PETTY 'CIVIL WAR'. PERSONALLY SAW STUART AS A PLAYER ON BOTH HIS SPELLS AT CITY, IN THAT CAPACITY. HIS COMMITMENT TO THE CLUB IS OBVIOUS FOR ANYONE TO SEE. IT IS A HUGE SHAME THAT HIS TIME AS A MANAGER HAS NOT WORKED OUT. I WISH HIM WELL FOR THE FUTURE. I HOPE HE CAN MANTAIN SOME LINK WITH THE CLUB. HE WILL ALWAYS BE WELCOME HERE. THE ONLY TIME I WOULD HOPE HE WOULD FAIL, IS IF HE CAME HERE WITH ANOTHER TEAM!! THAT ASIDE ALL THE BEST STUART.
NOT GOING TO ENTER INTO ALL THIS RECRIMINATION ACTIVITY WHICH IS LIKE SOME FORM OF PETTY 'CIVIL WAR'. PERSONALLY SAW STUART AS A PLAYER ON BOTH HIS SPELLS AT CITY, IN THAT CAPACITY. HIS COMMITMENT TO THE CLUB IS OBVIOUS FOR ANYONE TO SEE. IT IS A HUGE SHAME THAT HIS TIME AS A MANAGER HAS NOT WORKED OUT. I WISH HIM WELL FOR THE FUTURE. I HOPE HE CAN MANTAIN SOME LINK WITH THE CLUB. HE WILL ALWAYS BE WELCOME HERE. THE ONLY TIME I WOULD HOPE HE WOULD FAIL, IS IF HE CAME HERE WITH ANOTHER TEAM!! THAT ASIDE ALL THE BEST STUART. Soulman

12:15am Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey says...

dannbradfc wrote:
2storey wrote:
skyblogger wrote: I agree, a frequent visitor who is pally pally is already lined up. After all it is lawns side kick.
are we talking windas here
Is this the same Windass who co-managed Darlington? Its started already ;)
skyblogger seems to know everything and he says the next manager is a frequent visitor to VP and is pally pally and windas does play golf with mr rhodes
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skyblogger[/bold] wrote: I agree, a frequent visitor who is pally pally is already lined up. After all it is lawns side kick.[/p][/quote]are we talking windas here[/p][/quote]Is this the same Windass who co-managed Darlington? Its started already ;)[/p][/quote]skyblogger seems to know everything and he says the next manager is a frequent visitor to VP and is pally pally and windas does play golf with mr rhodes 2storey

12:16am Sun 7 Feb 10

dannbradfc says...

fatbloke wrote:
Cheers Shaun re Ramsden. It wasn't just from watching training though it was from the JPT when we won away 2-1, think it was Rochdale. That night he was very very good. I think McCall has put too much faith in players that have let him down too often, Rehman to name 1 who I think is worse then Clarke. I also think he should have kept Evans on his toes and not started him today just because of what he did at Torquay (especially out of position). I still think it is a sad sad day. I aint saying he should go neither am I saying he should stay, I dont know what to think at the moment. I have said it before that until I see his replacement could I comment on whever he should stay or not but by then it would be too late anyhow. McCall will always remain the most famous name I can relate to at VP in my life time and just wish it could have been different. I also agree with comments above that all is not right behind the scenes, something to do with the joint chairmen not agreeing on things, who actually has the final say (not re McCall, just in general) or is it 50/50?
evans was playing mostly on the right-wing all last season i believe. Thus he was not out of position. Ramsden should have had more games at centre-back (but hindsights easy int it) it was also good to watch him give Rehman a right telling-off whilst also prooving that Rehman is not and should not be captain (an upstairs political decision aimed to attract new investment or appease the new asian investors at the time??)
[quote][p][bold]fatbloke[/bold] wrote: Cheers Shaun re Ramsden. It wasn't just from watching training though it was from the JPT when we won away 2-1, think it was Rochdale. That night he was very very good. I think McCall has put too much faith in players that have let him down too often, Rehman to name 1 who I think is worse then Clarke. I also think he should have kept Evans on his toes and not started him today just because of what he did at Torquay (especially out of position). I still think it is a sad sad day. I aint saying he should go neither am I saying he should stay, I dont know what to think at the moment. I have said it before that until I see his replacement could I comment on whever he should stay or not but by then it would be too late anyhow. McCall will always remain the most famous name I can relate to at VP in my life time and just wish it could have been different. I also agree with comments above that all is not right behind the scenes, something to do with the joint chairmen not agreeing on things, who actually has the final say (not re McCall, just in general) or is it 50/50?[/p][/quote]evans was playing mostly on the right-wing all last season i believe. Thus he was not out of position. Ramsden should have had more games at centre-back (but hindsights easy int it) it was also good to watch him give Rehman a right telling-off whilst also prooving that Rehman is not and should not be captain (an upstairs political decision aimed to attract new investment or appease the new asian investors at the time??) dannbradfc

12:25am Sun 7 Feb 10

Victor Clayton says...

nobody can slag SM for his passion and his commitment. and for his effort he should be thanked. however I do think he should have been allowed to leave at the end of last season. IMO he is not really suited to it. maybe he is too stubborn. maybe to loyal to players who have let him down. whatever. he went for the best part of a season playing thorne and boulding together when it clearly wasn't working. I thought today we played really well. the defence was brilliant. best i have seen Clarke and Rehman play. midfield was superb. flynn was everywhere. maybe we would have got a break through if we had 11 players giving 100%. however Daley was not interested. but i don't think SM would have taken him off if he had not wanted to come off. he would have just plowed on! this is not being a good manager. also our strikers are not good enough. Thorne - too old. Boulding to small/ weak/ slow. Hanson - too raw. just watched MOD. Spurs play a lot of ball into Crough and he knocks it down for Defoe. how did we end up with Hanson in midfield and Boulding leadind the line! anyway regardless I wish you good luck Stuart.
nobody can slag SM for his passion and his commitment. and for his effort he should be thanked. however I do think he should have been allowed to leave at the end of last season. IMO he is not really suited to it. maybe he is too stubborn. maybe to loyal to players who have let him down. whatever. he went for the best part of a season playing thorne and boulding together when it clearly wasn't working. I thought today we played really well. the defence was brilliant. best i have seen Clarke and Rehman play. midfield was superb. flynn was everywhere. maybe we would have got a break through if we had 11 players giving 100%. however Daley was not interested. but i don't think SM would have taken him off if he had not wanted to come off. he would have just plowed on! this is not being a good manager. also our strikers are not good enough. Thorne - too old. Boulding to small/ weak/ slow. Hanson - too raw. just watched MOD. Spurs play a lot of ball into Crough and he knocks it down for Defoe. how did we end up with Hanson in midfield and Boulding leadind the line! anyway regardless I wish you good luck Stuart. Victor Clayton

12:26am Sun 7 Feb 10

dannbradfc says...

dannbradfc wrote:
A VERY SAD DAY FOR ALL TRUE CITY FANS. to all those who have given him abuse and often insane non-sensical rubbish i hope you are happy. I also hope that you all apply for the job as you obviously believe you can do a better job. At least you would surely be able to take the flak you have thrown at Stuart, some of it for nigh on two seasons, or would you? You are a disgrace most of you and will now have nothing to coment on. No obviously thats not true as you can now TARGET your next player and then perhaps 6 months down the line the next manager. Waynus for manager Brownsauceman for assistant Shaunthe sheep for kit man Lawnforever in rampton for urgent brain surgery
Windass as sometime sky reporter
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: A VERY SAD DAY FOR ALL TRUE CITY FANS. to all those who have given him abuse and often insane non-sensical rubbish i hope you are happy. I also hope that you all apply for the job as you obviously believe you can do a better job. At least you would surely be able to take the flak you have thrown at Stuart, some of it for nigh on two seasons, or would you? You are a disgrace most of you and will now have nothing to coment on. No obviously thats not true as you can now TARGET your next player and then perhaps 6 months down the line the next manager. Waynus for manager Brownsauceman for assistant Shaunthe sheep for kit man Lawnforever in rampton for urgent brain surgery[/p][/quote]Windass as sometime sky reporter dannbradfc

12:35am Sun 7 Feb 10

fatbloke says...

dannbradfc, it aint hindsight I have been saying all season re Ramsden at CB.
Yes Evans has spent most of his time out wide but in a 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 not as an out and out winger in a 442 like today, he has spent more of his time at VP tracking back and that was not why he was employed...
I think Evans has been poor since he joined us but also feel for him because he has probably only ever known playing up front in a 442 which has never really happened here.
dannbradfc, it aint hindsight I have been saying all season re Ramsden at CB. Yes Evans has spent most of his time out wide but in a 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 not as an out and out winger in a 442 like today, he has spent more of his time at VP tracking back and that was not why he was employed... I think Evans has been poor since he joined us but also feel for him because he has probably only ever known playing up front in a 442 which has never really happened here. fatbloke

12:37am Sun 7 Feb 10

dannbradfc says...

Victor Clayton wrote:
nobody can slag SM for his passion and his commitment. and for his effort he should be thanked. however I do think he should have been allowed to leave at the end of last season. IMO he is not really suited to it. maybe he is too stubborn. maybe to loyal to players who have let him down. whatever. he went for the best part of a season playing thorne and boulding together when it clearly wasn't working. I thought today we played really well. the defence was brilliant. best i have seen Clarke and Rehman play. midfield was superb. flynn was everywhere. maybe we would have got a break through if we had 11 players giving 100%. however Daley was not interested. but i don't think SM would have taken him off if he had not wanted to come off. he would have just plowed on! this is not being a good manager. also our strikers are not good enough. Thorne - too old. Boulding to small/ weak/ slow. Hanson - too raw. just watched MOD. Spurs play a lot of ball into Crough and he knocks it down for Defoe. how did we end up with Hanson in midfield and Boulding leadind the line! anyway regardless I wish you good luck Stuart.
You say Stu wasn't suited to it then state we played really well.

Then you state that the defence played well!!!!!!
That Rehman played well?????????
Midfield was superb???????? (daley wa sone of the midfield by the way)

You are correct about Boulding whose going to ground was getting on my nerves never mind the refs.
Thorne's intelligience nearly rescued the game and certainly had an effect on the game despite first game for yonks. Rehman was poor. Bullock was was inconsistent and again playing too far forward for the role he is supposed to and is best at (and probably told to play). Indeed his shot early on which went high and over despite under no pressure his further proof that he is NO attacking player. hanson was only switched so Stu was been POSITIVE. hanso played in that position for Guiseley and scored plenty of goals. Stu also took Daley off. Apply for manager that way everyone can all point out your faults but perhaps you are suited to the job ???
[quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: nobody can slag SM for his passion and his commitment. and for his effort he should be thanked. however I do think he should have been allowed to leave at the end of last season. IMO he is not really suited to it. maybe he is too stubborn. maybe to loyal to players who have let him down. whatever. he went for the best part of a season playing thorne and boulding together when it clearly wasn't working. I thought today we played really well. the defence was brilliant. best i have seen Clarke and Rehman play. midfield was superb. flynn was everywhere. maybe we would have got a break through if we had 11 players giving 100%. however Daley was not interested. but i don't think SM would have taken him off if he had not wanted to come off. he would have just plowed on! this is not being a good manager. also our strikers are not good enough. Thorne - too old. Boulding to small/ weak/ slow. Hanson - too raw. just watched MOD. Spurs play a lot of ball into Crough and he knocks it down for Defoe. how did we end up with Hanson in midfield and Boulding leadind the line! anyway regardless I wish you good luck Stuart.[/p][/quote]You say Stu wasn't suited to it then state we played really well. Then you state that the defence played well!!!!!! That Rehman played well????????? Midfield was superb???????? (daley wa sone of the midfield by the way) You are correct about Boulding whose going to ground was getting on my nerves never mind the refs. Thorne's intelligience nearly rescued the game and certainly had an effect on the game despite first game for yonks. Rehman was poor. Bullock was was inconsistent and again playing too far forward for the role he is supposed to and is best at (and probably told to play). Indeed his shot early on which went high and over despite under no pressure his further proof that he is NO attacking player. hanson was only switched so Stu was been POSITIVE. hanso played in that position for Guiseley and scored plenty of goals. Stu also took Daley off. Apply for manager that way everyone can all point out your faults but perhaps you are suited to the job ??? dannbradfc

12:39am Sun 7 Feb 10

fatbloke says...

2storey wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
2storey wrote:
skyblogger wrote: I agree, a frequent visitor who is pally pally is already lined up. After all it is lawns side kick.
are we talking windas here
Is this the same Windass who co-managed Darlington? Its started already ;)
skyblogger seems to know everything and he says the next manager is a frequent visitor to VP and is pally pally and windas does play golf with mr rhodes
so what you 2 are saying it looks like Windass is the only thing our 2 chairmen have in common?
Windass it maybe then? at least till end of season.
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skyblogger[/bold] wrote: I agree, a frequent visitor who is pally pally is already lined up. After all it is lawns side kick.[/p][/quote]are we talking windas here[/p][/quote]Is this the same Windass who co-managed Darlington? Its started already ;)[/p][/quote]skyblogger seems to know everything and he says the next manager is a frequent visitor to VP and is pally pally and windas does play golf with mr rhodes[/p][/quote]so what you 2 are saying it looks like Windass is the only thing our 2 chairmen have in common? Windass it maybe then? at least till end of season. fatbloke

12:46am Sun 7 Feb 10

fatbloke says...

Daley was holding his hamstring and I think that substitute was forced upon Mcall.
Daley was holding his hamstring and I think that substitute was forced upon Mcall. fatbloke

12:47am Sun 7 Feb 10

dannbradfc says...

fatbloke wrote:
dannbradfc, it aint hindsight I have been saying all season re Ramsden at CB. Yes Evans has spent most of his time out wide but in a 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 not as an out and out winger in a 442 like today, he has spent more of his time at VP tracking back and that was not why he was employed... I think Evans has been poor since he joined us but also feel for him because he has probably only ever known playing up front in a 442 which has never really happened here.
I like evans but he is no finisher and has no confidence in this area of his game. However he as consistently put in decent crosses even when supposedly operating as striker. he has pace and as you say provides cover/help for the full-back. I would have actually tried him in this position before now and hope he is played there again to see how he goes. stu ent for it today and the starting team on paper was extremely attacking as it needs to be at home. the problem we have with 4 4 2 is that Flynn and Bullock are lacking in pace and i believe fitness. Too many gaps appear i this area and when we actually go forward or defend breaks these two are too often behind play. i actually feel that we are perhaps best suited as a squad to play wing-backs especially considering our frailties at centre-half
[quote][p][bold]fatbloke[/bold] wrote: dannbradfc, it aint hindsight I have been saying all season re Ramsden at CB. Yes Evans has spent most of his time out wide but in a 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 not as an out and out winger in a 442 like today, he has spent more of his time at VP tracking back and that was not why he was employed... I think Evans has been poor since he joined us but also feel for him because he has probably only ever known playing up front in a 442 which has never really happened here.[/p][/quote]I like evans but he is no finisher and has no confidence in this area of his game. However he as consistently put in decent crosses even when supposedly operating as striker. he has pace and as you say provides cover/help for the full-back. I would have actually tried him in this position before now and hope he is played there again to see how he goes. stu ent for it today and the starting team on paper was extremely attacking as it needs to be at home. the problem we have with 4 4 2 is that Flynn and Bullock are lacking in pace and i believe fitness. Too many gaps appear i this area and when we actually go forward or defend breaks these two are too often behind play. i actually feel that we are perhaps best suited as a squad to play wing-backs especially considering our frailties at centre-half dannbradfc

1:46am Sun 7 Feb 10

finemess says...

Shame isn't it when some people can't have contrary opinions without being labelled idiot! I want and wish for city to do well but I aren't so wrapped up in one ex player legend or not to understand what is best for the club. McCALL has been a failure at City and you all know it.
Languishing in the bootom half of the 4th division is not how it should be and those that defend McCall are the real idiots!
Shame isn't it when some people can't have contrary opinions without being labelled idiot! I want and wish for city to do well but I aren't so wrapped up in one ex player legend or not to understand what is best for the club. McCALL has been a failure at City and you all know it. Languishing in the bootom half of the 4th division is not how it should be and those that defend McCall are the real idiots! finemess

5:50am Sun 7 Feb 10

bradfordmark says...

I hope the new manager is not an old boy, we need someone with experience. I want John Still from D and R.
I hope the new manager is not an old boy, we need someone with experience. I want John Still from D and R. bradfordmark

9:01am Sun 7 Feb 10

clackett.lane says...

Attracting a new manager has another problem, little to do with football. That is simply Bradford itself, who would want to come to this depressing dump with holes in the ground and a ghetto feel about the place. It really smacks of third world and that may be insulting some of those countries.
Attracting a new manager has another problem, little to do with football. That is simply Bradford itself, who would want to come to this depressing dump with holes in the ground and a ghetto feel about the place. It really smacks of third world and that may be insulting some of those countries. clackett.lane

9:10am Sun 7 Feb 10

GT Horton Bantam says...

Thanks for trying Stuart.You will be better off away from all this.You tried your best and most of the "FANS" were on you back. All the arguing above between our own fans. Good luck Stuart.
Thanks for trying Stuart.You will be better off away from all this.You tried your best and most of the "FANS" were on you back. All the arguing above between our own fans. Good luck Stuart. GT Horton Bantam

9:45am Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey says...

if mccall walks 2moro, will wj go with him, friends stick together
if mccall walks 2moro, will wj go with him, friends stick together 2storey

9:45am Sun 7 Feb 10

Victor Clayton says...

dannbradfc wrote:
Victor Clayton wrote: nobody can slag SM for his passion and his commitment. and for his effort he should be thanked. however I do think he should have been allowed to leave at the end of last season. IMO he is not really suited to it. maybe he is too stubborn. maybe to loyal to players who have let him down. whatever. he went for the best part of a season playing thorne and boulding together when it clearly wasn't working. I thought today we played really well. the defence was brilliant. best i have seen Clarke and Rehman play. midfield was superb. flynn was everywhere. maybe we would have got a break through if we had 11 players giving 100%. however Daley was not interested. but i don't think SM would have taken him off if he had not wanted to come off. he would have just plowed on! this is not being a good manager. also our strikers are not good enough. Thorne - too old. Boulding to small/ weak/ slow. Hanson - too raw. just watched MOD. Spurs play a lot of ball into Crough and he knocks it down for Defoe. how did we end up with Hanson in midfield and Boulding leadind the line! anyway regardless I wish you good luck Stuart.
You say Stu wasn't suited to it then state we played really well. Then you state that the defence played well!!!!!! That Rehman played well????????? Midfield was superb???????? (daley wa sone of the midfield by the way) You are correct about Boulding whose going to ground was getting on my nerves never mind the refs. Thorne's intelligience nearly rescued the game and certainly had an effect on the game despite first game for yonks. Rehman was poor. Bullock was was inconsistent and again playing too far forward for the role he is supposed to and is best at (and probably told to play). Indeed his shot early on which went high and over despite under no pressure his further proof that he is NO attacking player. hanson was only switched so Stu was been POSITIVE. hanso played in that position for Guiseley and scored plenty of goals. Stu also took Daley off. Apply for manager that way everyone can all point out your faults but perhaps you are suited to the job ???
He started really positively, it could be arguded he had 4 strikers on tfrom the start. it was a gample that unfortunately did't pay off. SM did not sub Daley he subed himself. All the midfield except Daley played well (happy now?). SM has instilled a good work ethic thid season but for it to work you need 11 players all doing it. you might have a point about Bully but to be fair we only had 2 natural midfielders on pitch and to suggest he could have sat around in front of the defence while Flynn did all the work is not on.
IMO Rehman was good. great work up the line and super pull back which should have let to a goal.
Hanson in midfield. OK if 1 - we have another decent target man to take over. 2 - poor bloke had not worked his socks off already up to that point.
Thorne is a great player but he is injury prone etc. I do not think that SM got everything wrong etc. I have have never slagged him off as a man. I did think he made lots of little mistakes and was too proud to admitt it. also there was no comunication between him and any of the other coaching staff, and this can't be good.
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: nobody can slag SM for his passion and his commitment. and for his effort he should be thanked. however I do think he should have been allowed to leave at the end of last season. IMO he is not really suited to it. maybe he is too stubborn. maybe to loyal to players who have let him down. whatever. he went for the best part of a season playing thorne and boulding together when it clearly wasn't working. I thought today we played really well. the defence was brilliant. best i have seen Clarke and Rehman play. midfield was superb. flynn was everywhere. maybe we would have got a break through if we had 11 players giving 100%. however Daley was not interested. but i don't think SM would have taken him off if he had not wanted to come off. he would have just plowed on! this is not being a good manager. also our strikers are not good enough. Thorne - too old. Boulding to small/ weak/ slow. Hanson - too raw. just watched MOD. Spurs play a lot of ball into Crough and he knocks it down for Defoe. how did we end up with Hanson in midfield and Boulding leadind the line! anyway regardless I wish you good luck Stuart.[/p][/quote]You say Stu wasn't suited to it then state we played really well. Then you state that the defence played well!!!!!! That Rehman played well????????? Midfield was superb???????? (daley wa sone of the midfield by the way) You are correct about Boulding whose going to ground was getting on my nerves never mind the refs. Thorne's intelligience nearly rescued the game and certainly had an effect on the game despite first game for yonks. Rehman was poor. Bullock was was inconsistent and again playing too far forward for the role he is supposed to and is best at (and probably told to play). Indeed his shot early on which went high and over despite under no pressure his further proof that he is NO attacking player. hanson was only switched so Stu was been POSITIVE. hanso played in that position for Guiseley and scored plenty of goals. Stu also took Daley off. Apply for manager that way everyone can all point out your faults but perhaps you are suited to the job ???[/p][/quote]He started really positively, it could be arguded he had 4 strikers on tfrom the start. it was a gample that unfortunately did't pay off. SM did not sub Daley he subed himself. All the midfield except Daley played well (happy now?). SM has instilled a good work ethic thid season but for it to work you need 11 players all doing it. you might have a point about Bully but to be fair we only had 2 natural midfielders on pitch and to suggest he could have sat around in front of the defence while Flynn did all the work is not on. IMO Rehman was good. great work up the line and super pull back which should have let to a goal. Hanson in midfield. OK if 1 - we have another decent target man to take over. 2 - poor bloke had not worked his socks off already up to that point. Thorne is a great player but he is injury prone etc. I do not think that SM got everything wrong etc. I have have never slagged him off as a man. I did think he made lots of little mistakes and was too proud to admitt it. also there was no comunication between him and any of the other coaching staff, and this can't be good. Victor Clayton

10:10am Sun 7 Feb 10

tyker says...

If he has resigned why is he waiting until monday to meet the directors? what purpose is being served by waiting to Monday?

were the directors at the game or not? they were so why not have a meeting on Saturday night?

As ever with SM there may be another agenda. if so what is that?

Is his mind so made up like last time that he could be minded to change his opinion if asked to honour his contract at least until the end of the season?


Yet again the actually position is unclear despite the walk around the ground and the initial interview on radio.

If he does go the last thing we need is the double act of Little and Large in the form of Jacobs and Wetherall or even Windass.

Jacko would be my choice as Jewell would not be interested preferring regularly visits of less than 90 days a time at his home in a year in Celebration (not Orlando, by the way, but Kissimmees-- zip code FL 34737).
If he has resigned why is he waiting until monday to meet the directors? what purpose is being served by waiting to Monday? were the directors at the game or not? they were so why not have a meeting on Saturday night? As ever with SM there may be another agenda. if so what is that? Is his mind so made up like last time that he could be minded to change his opinion if asked to honour his contract at least until the end of the season? Yet again the actually position is unclear despite the walk around the ground and the initial interview on radio. If he does go the last thing we need is the double act of Little and Large in the form of Jacobs and Wetherall or even Windass. Jacko would be my choice as Jewell would not be interested preferring regularly visits of less than 90 days a time at his home in a year in Celebration (not Orlando, by the way, but Kissimmees-- zip code FL 34737). tyker

10:18am Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey says...

tyker wrote:
If he has resigned why is he waiting until monday to meet the directors? what purpose is being served by waiting to Monday? were the directors at the game or not? they were so why not have a meeting on Saturday night? As ever with SM there may be another agenda. if so what is that? Is his mind so made up like last time that he could be minded to change his opinion if asked to honour his contract at least until the end of the season? Yet again the actually position is unclear despite the walk around the ground and the initial interview on radio. If he does go the last thing we need is the double act of Little and Large in the form of Jacobs and Wetherall or even Windass. Jacko would be my choice as Jewell would not be interested preferring regularly visits of less than 90 days a time at his home in a year in Celebration (not Orlando, by the way, but Kissimmees-- zip code FL 34737).
your quoting jacko and windas does that mean wj going too
[quote][p][bold]tyker[/bold] wrote: If he has resigned why is he waiting until monday to meet the directors? what purpose is being served by waiting to Monday? were the directors at the game or not? they were so why not have a meeting on Saturday night? As ever with SM there may be another agenda. if so what is that? Is his mind so made up like last time that he could be minded to change his opinion if asked to honour his contract at least until the end of the season? Yet again the actually position is unclear despite the walk around the ground and the initial interview on radio. If he does go the last thing we need is the double act of Little and Large in the form of Jacobs and Wetherall or even Windass. Jacko would be my choice as Jewell would not be interested preferring regularly visits of less than 90 days a time at his home in a year in Celebration (not Orlando, by the way, but Kissimmees-- zip code FL 34737).[/p][/quote]your quoting jacko and windas does that mean wj going too 2storey

10:31am Sun 7 Feb 10

WVC Flag says...

Stu you are and always will be a legend at this club! You conduct your self with more passion and honour than anyone else in football. If you do decide to go all the best for the future.

To most of the regulars on this message board its well known amonst all genuine city fans what negative and spitful site this is. In two months you'll be on the back of the new manager. Get yourselves over to Huddersfield or Leeds! You are a noisely minority that spend most of your life on this board. Try backing the club instead of constantly chipping away at it.

WVC
Stu you are and always will be a legend at this club! You conduct your self with more passion and honour than anyone else in football. If you do decide to go all the best for the future. To most of the regulars on this message board its well known amonst all genuine city fans what negative and spitful site this is. In two months you'll be on the back of the new manager. Get yourselves over to Huddersfield or Leeds! You are a noisely minority that spend most of your life on this board. Try backing the club instead of constantly chipping away at it. WVC WVC Flag

10:38am Sun 7 Feb 10

thecitygent says...

clackett.lane wrote:
Attracting a new manager has another problem, little to do with football. That is simply Bradford itself, who would want to come to this depressing dump with holes in the ground and a ghetto feel about the place. It really smacks of third world and that may be insulting some of those countries.
Yes this has more to do with the failings of Stuart as manager. The bigger picture is a club weighed down with debt, a lack of leadership at the top and a depressed city with little wealth or self-confidence. Difficult to be optimistic for the future.
[quote][p][bold]clackett.lane[/bold] wrote: Attracting a new manager has another problem, little to do with football. That is simply Bradford itself, who would want to come to this depressing dump with holes in the ground and a ghetto feel about the place. It really smacks of third world and that may be insulting some of those countries.[/p][/quote]Yes this has more to do with the failings of Stuart as manager. The bigger picture is a club weighed down with debt, a lack of leadership at the top and a depressed city with little wealth or self-confidence. Difficult to be optimistic for the future. thecitygent

11:15am Sun 7 Feb 10

cookie_brighton says...

I am fed up of reading all these posts about mccall.He was a legend in his football days,but as a manager........well actions speak louder than words.He has made the right choice to leave and I respect him for that.People have always said how mccalls interest was in bcfc, and how his heart is in the club....well lets just see how much this is true.He knows how we are financially in trouble,lets see if he waives the golden handshake to help us.
I am fed up of reading all these posts about mccall.He was a legend in his football days,but as a manager........well actions speak louder than words.He has made the right choice to leave and I respect him for that.People have always said how mccalls interest was in bcfc, and how his heart is in the club....well lets just see how much this is true.He knows how we are financially in trouble,lets see if he waives the golden handshake to help us. cookie_brighton

11:38am Sun 7 Feb 10

paul64 says...

The history of football shows that very few good players return as managers to the clubs they played for and are successfull. The odds were stacked against Mccall.

I find all this legend talk bazarre. He played for city in the eighties and when they failed in the playoffs to Middlesborough he was off. Apart from a spell a few years ago when he played for a side that got relegated, most off Mccalls achievments were with Everton, Rangers and Scotland. However their fans dont call him a legend. They call him an ex player.
Their lies the problem with city fans. They live in a kind of fantasy land where mediocrity is regarded as success. For christ sakes when was this drooling going to end? At the first game in the blue square conference.
Mccall was a good player. Those of us who had the pleasure of watching him in the eighties were the lucky ones. His dignity and respect he showed after the fire deserves the highest praise. But as a club Bradford City must move into the future and get out of this mess.
The history of football shows that very few good players return as managers to the clubs they played for and are successfull. The odds were stacked against Mccall. I find all this legend talk bazarre. He played for city in the eighties and when they failed in the playoffs to Middlesborough he was off. Apart from a spell a few years ago when he played for a side that got relegated, most off Mccalls achievments were with Everton, Rangers and Scotland. However their fans dont call him a legend. They call him an ex player. Their lies the problem with city fans. They live in a kind of fantasy land where mediocrity is regarded as success. For christ sakes when was this drooling going to end? At the first game in the blue square conference. Mccall was a good player. Those of us who had the pleasure of watching him in the eighties were the lucky ones. His dignity and respect he showed after the fire deserves the highest praise. But as a club Bradford City must move into the future and get out of this mess. paul64

11:59am Sun 7 Feb 10

thebrownsauceman says...

i respect mccall for leaving for the sake of the club (presuming he doesnt do another hudini and decide to stay). he is a legend AS A PLAYER. if mccall has made his decision to leave then let him do it.
Do you know what i have noticed, Mccall as a manager has divided the fans (obviously not his fault) the fans are divided. whats the point in this forum all most of you do "shaun from richmand" "macca 1969" etc etc is slag each other off. theres nothing wrong with challenging opinions but none of you back it up with any facts.
you all claim to be proper fans, but ask yourself this question do proper fans slag each other off left right and center
i respect mccall for leaving for the sake of the club (presuming he doesnt do another hudini and decide to stay). he is a legend AS A PLAYER. if mccall has made his decision to leave then let him do it. Do you know what i have noticed, Mccall as a manager has divided the fans (obviously not his fault) the fans are divided. whats the point in this forum all most of you do "shaun from richmand" "macca 1969" etc etc is slag each other off. theres nothing wrong with challenging opinions but none of you back it up with any facts. you all claim to be proper fans, but ask yourself this question do proper fans slag each other off left right and center thebrownsauceman

12:08pm Sun 7 Feb 10

Baildonian says...

A sad day for all City fans, but a necessary one. Well done to Stuart for doing the decent thing and quitting, rather than waiting to be sacked. I'm sure that with his contacts and reputation in the game he'll pick up a decent coaching job as soon as he wants one.

Lets hope we get the right man now. I heard Jagger is keen but not while Lawn's in charge.
A sad day for all City fans, but a necessary one. Well done to Stuart for doing the decent thing and quitting, rather than waiting to be sacked. I'm sure that with his contacts and reputation in the game he'll pick up a decent coaching job as soon as he wants one. Lets hope we get the right man now. I heard Jagger is keen but not while Lawn's in charge. Baildonian

12:15pm Sun 7 Feb 10

ship says...

dannbradfc wrote:
A VERY SAD DAY FOR ALL TRUE CITY FANS. to all those who have given him abuse and often insane non-sensical rubbish i hope you are happy. I also hope that you all apply for the job as you obviously believe you can do a better job. At least you would surely be able to take the flak you have thrown at Stuart, some of it for nigh on two seasons, or would you? You are a disgrace most of you and will now have nothing to coment on. No obviously thats not true as you can now TARGET your next player and then perhaps 6 months down the line the next manager. Waynus for manager Brownsauceman for assistant Shaunthe sheep for kit man Lawnforever in rampton for urgent brain surgery
true and funny
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: A VERY SAD DAY FOR ALL TRUE CITY FANS. to all those who have given him abuse and often insane non-sensical rubbish i hope you are happy. I also hope that you all apply for the job as you obviously believe you can do a better job. At least you would surely be able to take the flak you have thrown at Stuart, some of it for nigh on two seasons, or would you? You are a disgrace most of you and will now have nothing to coment on. No obviously thats not true as you can now TARGET your next player and then perhaps 6 months down the line the next manager. Waynus for manager Brownsauceman for assistant Shaunthe sheep for kit man Lawnforever in rampton for urgent brain surgery[/p][/quote]true and funny ship

12:36pm Sun 7 Feb 10

The General 82-86 says...

ship wrote:
dannbradfc wrote: A VERY SAD DAY FOR ALL TRUE CITY FANS. to all those who have given him abuse and often insane non-sensical rubbish i hope you are happy. I also hope that you all apply for the job as you obviously believe you can do a better job. At least you would surely be able to take the flak you have thrown at Stuart, some of it for nigh on two seasons, or would you? You are a disgrace most of you and will now have nothing to coment on. No obviously thats not true as you can now TARGET your next player and then perhaps 6 months down the line the next manager. Waynus for manager Brownsauceman for assistant Shaunthe sheep for kit man Lawnforever in rampton for urgent brain surgery
true and funny
Very True of the above all very sad little people .
What will they do with all there spare time !!
[quote][p][bold]ship[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: A VERY SAD DAY FOR ALL TRUE CITY FANS. to all those who have given him abuse and often insane non-sensical rubbish i hope you are happy. I also hope that you all apply for the job as you obviously believe you can do a better job. At least you would surely be able to take the flak you have thrown at Stuart, some of it for nigh on two seasons, or would you? You are a disgrace most of you and will now have nothing to coment on. No obviously thats not true as you can now TARGET your next player and then perhaps 6 months down the line the next manager. Waynus for manager Brownsauceman for assistant Shaunthe sheep for kit man Lawnforever in rampton for urgent brain surgery[/p][/quote]true and funny[/p][/quote]Very True of the above all very sad little people . What will they do with all there spare time !! The General 82-86

1:00pm Sun 7 Feb 10

essmbee says...

His resignation has come a season too late !
His resignation has come a season too late ! essmbee

1:04pm Sun 7 Feb 10

djmoulson says...

paul64 wrote:
The history of football shows that very few good players return as managers to the clubs they played for and are successfull. The odds were stacked against Mccall. I find all this legend talk bazarre. He played for city in the eighties and when they failed in the playoffs to Middlesborough he was off. Apart from a spell a few years ago when he played for a side that got relegated, most off Mccalls achievments were with Everton, Rangers and Scotland. However their fans dont call him a legend. They call him an ex player. Their lies the problem with city fans. They live in a kind of fantasy land where mediocrity is regarded as success. For christ sakes when was this drooling going to end? At the first game in the blue square conference. Mccall was a good player. Those of us who had the pleasure of watching him in the eighties were the lucky ones. His dignity and respect he showed after the fire deserves the highest praise. But as a club Bradford City must move into the future and get out of this mess.
Paul64, regarding your comments on Stuart being a legend (or not), visit the following site: http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Rangers_F.C
._Hall_of_Fame I think you'll find Rangers class him as such, and he hardly turned and ran when we missed out in the play-offs to Middlesbrough, Jack Tordoff wouldn't part with a relatively small amount of money for John Salako and Andy Townsend to bolster the squad for a final push, EVERYONE knew Stuart and John Hendrie would be sold in the summer if we didn't get promotion, and that left a bitter taste with Stuart that investment wasn't forthcoming. Nothing would have made him prouder than to wear the claret & amber in the top flight, which of course he managed to do in his return. I suggest you get your facts right before spouting out that he was quick to leave. CTID
[quote][p][bold]paul64[/bold] wrote: The history of football shows that very few good players return as managers to the clubs they played for and are successfull. The odds were stacked against Mccall. I find all this legend talk bazarre. He played for city in the eighties and when they failed in the playoffs to Middlesborough he was off. Apart from a spell a few years ago when he played for a side that got relegated, most off Mccalls achievments were with Everton, Rangers and Scotland. However their fans dont call him a legend. They call him an ex player. Their lies the problem with city fans. They live in a kind of fantasy land where mediocrity is regarded as success. For christ sakes when was this drooling going to end? At the first game in the blue square conference. Mccall was a good player. Those of us who had the pleasure of watching him in the eighties were the lucky ones. His dignity and respect he showed after the fire deserves the highest praise. But as a club Bradford City must move into the future and get out of this mess.[/p][/quote]Paul64, regarding your comments on Stuart being a legend (or not), visit the following site: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Rangers_F.C ._Hall_of_Fame I think you'll find Rangers class him as such, and he hardly turned and ran when we missed out in the play-offs to Middlesbrough, Jack Tordoff wouldn't part with a relatively small amount of money for John Salako and Andy Townsend to bolster the squad for a final push, EVERYONE knew Stuart and John Hendrie would be sold in the summer if we didn't get promotion, and that left a bitter taste with Stuart that investment wasn't forthcoming. Nothing would have made him prouder than to wear the claret & amber in the top flight, which of course he managed to do in his return. I suggest you get your facts right before spouting out that he was quick to leave. CTID djmoulson

1:34pm Sun 7 Feb 10

thecitygent says...

djmoulson wrote:
paul64 wrote: The history of football shows that very few good players return as managers to the clubs they played for and are successfull. The odds were stacked against Mccall. I find all this legend talk bazarre. He played for city in the eighties and when they failed in the playoffs to Middlesborough he was off. Apart from a spell a few years ago when he played for a side that got relegated, most off Mccalls achievments were with Everton, Rangers and Scotland. However their fans dont call him a legend. They call him an ex player. Their lies the problem with city fans. They live in a kind of fantasy land where mediocrity is regarded as success. For christ sakes when was this drooling going to end? At the first game in the blue square conference. Mccall was a good player. Those of us who had the pleasure of watching him in the eighties were the lucky ones. His dignity and respect he showed after the fire deserves the highest praise. But as a club Bradford City must move into the future and get out of this mess.
Paul64, regarding your comments on Stuart being a legend (or not), visit the following site: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Rangers_F.C ._Hall_of_Fame I think you'll find Rangers class him as such, and he hardly turned and ran when we missed out in the play-offs to Middlesbrough, Jack Tordoff wouldn't part with a relatively small amount of money for John Salako and Andy Townsend to bolster the squad for a final push, EVERYONE knew Stuart and John Hendrie would be sold in the summer if we didn't get promotion, and that left a bitter taste with Stuart that investment wasn't forthcoming. Nothing would have made him prouder than to wear the claret & amber in the top flight, which of course he managed to do in his return. I suggest you get your facts right before spouting out that he was quick to leave. CTID
DJMouslon I agree entirely - everyone knew that Stuart would leave at the end of 1988/89 and it is worth adding that he choose NOT to sign for L666ds Utd on the basis of loyalty with the fans. He certainly hadn't forgotten the Odsal chip fire incident or the general feelings about our ASBO neighbours. He has always demonstrated solidarity with City fans even when playing for the opposition (Everton & Sheff Utd). He was under no obligation to attend fire memorial ceremonies at VP but HE was one of the FEW ex-players to do so. No-one can say that he hasn't had a close affinity with our club. Okay I'll now sit back and wait for lawnrulesokay to wake up from his drunken stupor to tell me that I'm wrong and it is 'Mr' Lawn who is the real legend.
[quote][p][bold]djmoulson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paul64[/bold] wrote: The history of football shows that very few good players return as managers to the clubs they played for and are successfull. The odds were stacked against Mccall. I find all this legend talk bazarre. He played for city in the eighties and when they failed in the playoffs to Middlesborough he was off. Apart from a spell a few years ago when he played for a side that got relegated, most off Mccalls achievments were with Everton, Rangers and Scotland. However their fans dont call him a legend. They call him an ex player. Their lies the problem with city fans. They live in a kind of fantasy land where mediocrity is regarded as success. For christ sakes when was this drooling going to end? At the first game in the blue square conference. Mccall was a good player. Those of us who had the pleasure of watching him in the eighties were the lucky ones. His dignity and respect he showed after the fire deserves the highest praise. But as a club Bradford City must move into the future and get out of this mess.[/p][/quote]Paul64, regarding your comments on Stuart being a legend (or not), visit the following site: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Rangers_F.C ._Hall_of_Fame I think you'll find Rangers class him as such, and he hardly turned and ran when we missed out in the play-offs to Middlesbrough, Jack Tordoff wouldn't part with a relatively small amount of money for John Salako and Andy Townsend to bolster the squad for a final push, EVERYONE knew Stuart and John Hendrie would be sold in the summer if we didn't get promotion, and that left a bitter taste with Stuart that investment wasn't forthcoming. Nothing would have made him prouder than to wear the claret & amber in the top flight, which of course he managed to do in his return. I suggest you get your facts right before spouting out that he was quick to leave. CTID[/p][/quote]DJMouslon I agree entirely - everyone knew that Stuart would leave at the end of 1988/89 and it is worth adding that he choose NOT to sign for L666ds Utd on the basis of loyalty with the fans. He certainly hadn't forgotten the Odsal chip fire incident or the general feelings about our ASBO neighbours. He has always demonstrated solidarity with City fans even when playing for the opposition (Everton & Sheff Utd). He was under no obligation to attend fire memorial ceremonies at VP but HE was one of the FEW ex-players to do so. No-one can say that he hasn't had a close affinity with our club. Okay I'll now sit back and wait for lawnrulesokay to wake up from his drunken stupor to tell me that I'm wrong and it is 'Mr' Lawn who is the real legend. thecitygent

1:37pm Sun 7 Feb 10

Spenvalleyspartan says...

Just remember everybody that the club comes before any man!! Is 16th satisfactory in a division full of pauper football clubs. This arguement that we're skint doesn't wash really wash with me. There are no wealthy clubs in this division. Last year we wern't so skint but still came up well short and with many rivals starting with minus points. Who do we blame for that? Lawn? Don't make me laugh!! The King is dead. Long live the King! CTID not McCall till I die!! Just hope Jacobs and Wethers fall on their sword too.
Just remember everybody that the club comes before any man!! Is 16th satisfactory in a division full of pauper football clubs. This arguement that we're skint doesn't wash really wash with me. There are no wealthy clubs in this division. Last year we wern't so skint but still came up well short and with many rivals starting with minus points. Who do we blame for that? Lawn? Don't make me laugh!! The King is dead. Long live the King! CTID not McCall till I die!! Just hope Jacobs and Wethers fall on their sword too. Spenvalleyspartan

1:46pm Sun 7 Feb 10

paul64 says...

Djmoulson BD2. Jack Tordoff refused to bankroll more players in 87 for the very simple reason that the club was in financial crisis. Macall and Hendry made no secret of their desire for top flight football. The club had no option but to sell them whilst their profile was high. However what is the point of raking up events of 23 years ago. He was just a squad player at Rangers. No more, no less. Only small minded clubs live in the shadow of legends. Forward thinking clubs move on. Did Man Utd call Beckham a legend when he left? No.

Live with the legend idea if it makes you feel better. I dont subscribe to it.
Djmoulson BD2. Jack Tordoff refused to bankroll more players in 87 for the very simple reason that the club was in financial crisis. Macall and Hendry made no secret of their desire for top flight football. The club had no option but to sell them whilst their profile was high. However what is the point of raking up events of 23 years ago. He was just a squad player at Rangers. No more, no less. Only small minded clubs live in the shadow of legends. Forward thinking clubs move on. Did Man Utd call Beckham a legend when he left? No. Live with the legend idea if it makes you feel better. I dont subscribe to it. paul64

1:49pm Sun 7 Feb 10

truebantam82 says...

As I left the ground yesterday, I heard some guy ask the question "why were people applauding that ginger ****?? - he has set us up for the Blue Square Premier"........I was disgusted!!! The applause for McCall after the game was to show our appreciation for the efforts he has put in over nearly 3 seasons and also to make him aware....he will ALWAYS be a legend at this club.
So it hasn't worked out, but the great man does not deserve people talking about him like that.
From me and the majority of proper fans (with brains), thank you for everything
As I left the ground yesterday, I heard some guy ask the question "why were people applauding that ginger ****?? - he has set us up for the Blue Square Premier"........I was disgusted!!! The applause for McCall after the game was to show our appreciation for the efforts he has put in over nearly 3 seasons and also to make him aware....he will ALWAYS be a legend at this club. So it hasn't worked out, but the great man does not deserve people talking about him like that. From me and the majority of proper fans (with brains), thank you for everything truebantam82

2:02pm Sun 7 Feb 10

Bricktop says...

It is a very sad time for the club. It would have been fantastic if the 'Golden Boy' of city could have returned and achieved all of the goals he had set and aimed for but alas, it was not to be. I don't think anyone can ever question Stuart's desire or commitment to the club, there is no doubt this whole episode will have hurt Stuart, and with that it saddens me to read how some people have slated him. But there is no time now for dwelling now, we have hit rock bottom and build up right from the bottom now. We need a manager who is proven at this level, who will motivate and get the best out of what he has at his disposal, I personally feel it would be worthwhile spending more of any budget on a good manager, as we have a nucleus of decent players already. Peter Taylor would be my choice, but i feel we'd have to push the boat out perhaps to get him, but i dont see the point in getting a ten bob manager! More importantly we need to act soon! No point waiting until Notts County get their finances sorted and snap him up. If our chairmen do have real ambition for the club, then lets see it, and see them make an ambitious appointment, sharpish!
It is a very sad time for the club. It would have been fantastic if the 'Golden Boy' of city could have returned and achieved all of the goals he had set and aimed for but alas, it was not to be. I don't think anyone can ever question Stuart's desire or commitment to the club, there is no doubt this whole episode will have hurt Stuart, and with that it saddens me to read how some people have slated him. But there is no time now for dwelling now, we have hit rock bottom and build up right from the bottom now. We need a manager who is proven at this level, who will motivate and get the best out of what he has at his disposal, I personally feel it would be worthwhile spending more of any budget on a good manager, as we have a nucleus of decent players already. Peter Taylor would be my choice, but i feel we'd have to push the boat out perhaps to get him, but i dont see the point in getting a ten bob manager! More importantly we need to act soon! No point waiting until Notts County get their finances sorted and snap him up. If our chairmen do have real ambition for the club, then lets see it, and see them make an ambitious appointment, sharpish! Bricktop

2:05pm Sun 7 Feb 10

djmoulson says...

paul64 wrote:
Djmoulson BD2. Jack Tordoff refused to bankroll more players in 87 for the very simple reason that the club was in financial crisis. Macall and Hendry made no secret of their desire for top flight football. The club had no option but to sell them whilst their profile was high. However what is the point of raking up events of 23 years ago. He was just a squad player at Rangers. No more, no less. Only small minded clubs live in the shadow of legends. Forward thinking clubs move on. Did Man Utd call Beckham a legend when he left? No. Live with the legend idea if it makes you feel better. I dont subscribe to it.
Paul64, I think you'll find it was you who brought up the events of 23 years ago, and is it not the desire of any sportsman to ply their trade at the highest level, nobody can fault Hendrie and McCall for that...!! I think you'll also find that even forward thinking clubs have their legends, however they are legends after time, I'm sure even Beckham will be regarded as such in time. Just spare a thought: What good is forward thinking and moving on if we can't reflect and discuss the trials, tribulations and succusses of our past? It's what makes us turn up each week to support our beloved team. CTID
[quote][p][bold]paul64[/bold] wrote: Djmoulson BD2. Jack Tordoff refused to bankroll more players in 87 for the very simple reason that the club was in financial crisis. Macall and Hendry made no secret of their desire for top flight football. The club had no option but to sell them whilst their profile was high. However what is the point of raking up events of 23 years ago. He was just a squad player at Rangers. No more, no less. Only small minded clubs live in the shadow of legends. Forward thinking clubs move on. Did Man Utd call Beckham a legend when he left? No. Live with the legend idea if it makes you feel better. I dont subscribe to it.[/p][/quote]Paul64, I think you'll find it was you who brought up the events of 23 years ago, and is it not the desire of any sportsman to ply their trade at the highest level, nobody can fault Hendrie and McCall for that...!! I think you'll also find that even forward thinking clubs have their legends, however they are legends after time, I'm sure even Beckham will be regarded as such in time. Just spare a thought: What good is forward thinking and moving on if we can't reflect and discuss the trials, tribulations and succusses of our past? It's what makes us turn up each week to support our beloved team. CTID djmoulson

2:29pm Sun 7 Feb 10

truebantam82 says...

djmoulson wrote:
paul64 wrote: Djmoulson BD2. Jack Tordoff refused to bankroll more players in 87 for the very simple reason that the club was in financial crisis. Macall and Hendry made no secret of their desire for top flight football. The club had no option but to sell them whilst their profile was high. However what is the point of raking up events of 23 years ago. He was just a squad player at Rangers. No more, no less. Only small minded clubs live in the shadow of legends. Forward thinking clubs move on. Did Man Utd call Beckham a legend when he left? No. Live with the legend idea if it makes you feel better. I dont subscribe to it.
Paul64, I think you'll find it was you who brought up the events of 23 years ago, and is it not the desire of any sportsman to ply their trade at the highest level, nobody can fault Hendrie and McCall for that...!! I think you'll also find that even forward thinking clubs have their legends, however they are legends after time, I'm sure even Beckham will be regarded as such in time. Just spare a thought: What good is forward thinking and moving on if we can't reflect and discuss the trials, tribulations and succusses of our past? It's what makes us turn up each week to support our beloved team. CTID
Paul64....what cr*p!!! McCall was part of the "10 in a row" Rangers team and I think the 15,000 fans that travelled to VP from Glasgow for his testomonial proves what they thought of a McCall - A LEGEND
[quote][p][bold]djmoulson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paul64[/bold] wrote: Djmoulson BD2. Jack Tordoff refused to bankroll more players in 87 for the very simple reason that the club was in financial crisis. Macall and Hendry made no secret of their desire for top flight football. The club had no option but to sell them whilst their profile was high. However what is the point of raking up events of 23 years ago. He was just a squad player at Rangers. No more, no less. Only small minded clubs live in the shadow of legends. Forward thinking clubs move on. Did Man Utd call Beckham a legend when he left? No. Live with the legend idea if it makes you feel better. I dont subscribe to it.[/p][/quote]Paul64, I think you'll find it was you who brought up the events of 23 years ago, and is it not the desire of any sportsman to ply their trade at the highest level, nobody can fault Hendrie and McCall for that...!! I think you'll also find that even forward thinking clubs have their legends, however they are legends after time, I'm sure even Beckham will be regarded as such in time. Just spare a thought: What good is forward thinking and moving on if we can't reflect and discuss the trials, tribulations and succusses of our past? It's what makes us turn up each week to support our beloved team. CTID[/p][/quote]Paul64....what cr*p!!! McCall was part of the "10 in a row" Rangers team and I think the 15,000 fans that travelled to VP from Glasgow for his testomonial proves what they thought of a McCall - A LEGEND truebantam82

2:45pm Sun 7 Feb 10

djmoulson says...

truebantam82 wrote:
djmoulson wrote:
paul64 wrote: Djmoulson BD2. Jack Tordoff refused to bankroll more players in 87 for the very simple reason that the club was in financial crisis. Macall and Hendry made no secret of their desire for top flight football. The club had no option but to sell them whilst their profile was high. However what is the point of raking up events of 23 years ago. He was just a squad player at Rangers. No more, no less. Only small minded clubs live in the shadow of legends. Forward thinking clubs move on. Did Man Utd call Beckham a legend when he left? No. Live with the legend idea if it makes you feel better. I dont subscribe to it.
Paul64, I think you'll find it was you who brought up the events of 23 years ago, and is it not the desire of any sportsman to ply their trade at the highest level, nobody can fault Hendrie and McCall for that...!! I think you'll also find that even forward thinking clubs have their legends, however they are legends after time, I'm sure even Beckham will be regarded as such in time. Just spare a thought: What good is forward thinking and moving on if we can't reflect and discuss the trials, tribulations and succusses of our past? It's what makes us turn up each week to support our beloved team. CTID
Paul64....what cr*p!!! McCall was part of the "10 in a row" Rangers team and I think the 15,000 fans that travelled to VP from Glasgow for his testomonial proves what they thought of a McCall - A LEGEND
Another thing Paul64, if City were in financial crisis in 1987 (which I don't think they particularly were) and they had to sell Hendrie & McCall, how then can you knock McCall for leaving if it wasn't his choice...you just contradicted yourself..!?! Truebantam82...good call, an average of 27 games a season doesn't constitute a 'squad' player, he was regarded as The Gers 'engine' without taking the plaudits of other players. CTID
[quote][p][bold]truebantam82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djmoulson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paul64[/bold] wrote: Djmoulson BD2. Jack Tordoff refused to bankroll more players in 87 for the very simple reason that the club was in financial crisis. Macall and Hendry made no secret of their desire for top flight football. The club had no option but to sell them whilst their profile was high. However what is the point of raking up events of 23 years ago. He was just a squad player at Rangers. No more, no less. Only small minded clubs live in the shadow of legends. Forward thinking clubs move on. Did Man Utd call Beckham a legend when he left? No. Live with the legend idea if it makes you feel better. I dont subscribe to it.[/p][/quote]Paul64, I think you'll find it was you who brought up the events of 23 years ago, and is it not the desire of any sportsman to ply their trade at the highest level, nobody can fault Hendrie and McCall for that...!! I think you'll also find that even forward thinking clubs have their legends, however they are legends after time, I'm sure even Beckham will be regarded as such in time. Just spare a thought: What good is forward thinking and moving on if we can't reflect and discuss the trials, tribulations and succusses of our past? It's what makes us turn up each week to support our beloved team. CTID[/p][/quote]Paul64....what cr*p!!! McCall was part of the "10 in a row" Rangers team and I think the 15,000 fans that travelled to VP from Glasgow for his testomonial proves what they thought of a McCall - A LEGEND[/p][/quote]Another thing Paul64, if City were in financial crisis in 1987 (which I don't think they particularly were) and they had to sell Hendrie & McCall, how then can you knock McCall for leaving if it wasn't his choice...you just contradicted yourself..!?! Truebantam82...good call, an average of 27 games a season doesn't constitute a 'squad' player, he was regarded as The Gers 'engine' without taking the plaudits of other players. CTID djmoulson

3:05pm Sun 7 Feb 10

Bradford1903 says...

macca1969 wrote:
2storey wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Lawn for ever wrote: ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTID
What? Are you for real, who said anything about hating him, i know he invested in the club or should i say loaned money to the club,(wonder what the interest rate is) what i'm saying is that i don't believe a word he says he is like gordon brown and david cameron all promising everything and delivering what? You blame Stu so answer why was it Lawn gave him another 2 year deal when we had achieved nothing,why did he talk Stuart out of quitting by asking the fans to more or less beg him to stay? Stuart is hung out to dry for his mistakes why can't Lawn take any criticism. Cuts both ways in my eyes he made the decision to employ him offer another contract beg him to stay mouth off about back to back promotions but in your eyes can do no wrong. WHATEVER
pick the phone and speak to lawn he isnt taking anything out of the club, if you were a fan you would know there is no money to take out
Exactly so if no money to take out= no money to spend = no money for mccall to fleece us with and you say i'm no fan. I'm only saying he isn't whiter than white and inflames the situation with ludicrous comments and his own decision making isn't exactly perfect. so are you saying he isn't taking any interest on his loan
Why does there always have to be a scapegoat?

We all wanted Stuart to succeed, but you've just got to accept that unfortunately things didn't work out for him.

People have very short memories, as when Lawn joined the club he paid off a lot of our existing debts.

It's because of people like Lawn and Rhodes, that we will have a club to support, long after Stuart McCall has gone.
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTID[/p][/quote]What? Are you for real, who said anything about hating him, i know he invested in the club or should i say loaned money to the club,(wonder what the interest rate is) what i'm saying is that i don't believe a word he says he is like gordon brown and david cameron all promising everything and delivering what? You blame Stu so answer why was it Lawn gave him another 2 year deal when we had achieved nothing,why did he talk Stuart out of quitting by asking the fans to more or less beg him to stay? Stuart is hung out to dry for his mistakes why can't Lawn take any criticism. Cuts both ways in my eyes he made the decision to employ him offer another contract beg him to stay mouth off about back to back promotions but in your eyes can do no wrong. WHATEVER[/p][/quote]pick the phone and speak to lawn he isnt taking anything out of the club, if you were a fan you would know there is no money to take out[/p][/quote]Exactly so if no money to take out= no money to spend = no money for mccall to fleece us with and you say i'm no fan. I'm only saying he isn't whiter than white and inflames the situation with ludicrous comments and his own decision making isn't exactly perfect. so are you saying he isn't taking any interest on his loan[/p][/quote]Why does there always have to be a scapegoat? We all wanted Stuart to succeed, but you've just got to accept that unfortunately things didn't work out for him. People have very short memories, as when Lawn joined the club he paid off a lot of our existing debts. It's because of people like Lawn and Rhodes, that we will have a club to support, long after Stuart McCall has gone. Bradford1903

3:22pm Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey says...

Spenvalleyspartan wrote:
Just remember everybody that the club comes before any man!! Is 16th satisfactory in a division full of pauper football clubs. This arguement that we're skint doesn't wash really wash with me. There are no wealthy clubs in this division. Last year we wern't so skint but still came up well short and with many rivals starting with minus points. Who do we blame for that? Lawn? Don't make me laugh!! The King is dead. Long live the King! CTID not McCall till I die!! Just hope Jacobs and Wethers fall on their sword too.
well said and agree with all your comments
[quote][p][bold]Spenvalleyspartan[/bold] wrote: Just remember everybody that the club comes before any man!! Is 16th satisfactory in a division full of pauper football clubs. This arguement that we're skint doesn't wash really wash with me. There are no wealthy clubs in this division. Last year we wern't so skint but still came up well short and with many rivals starting with minus points. Who do we blame for that? Lawn? Don't make me laugh!! The King is dead. Long live the King! CTID not McCall till I die!! Just hope Jacobs and Wethers fall on their sword too.[/p][/quote]well said and agree with all your comments 2storey

3:47pm Sun 7 Feb 10

nowt fresh says...

djmoulson wrote:
paul64 wrote: The history of football shows that very few good players return as managers to the clubs they played for and are successfull. The odds were stacked against Mccall. I find all this legend talk bazarre. He played for city in the eighties and when they failed in the playoffs to Middlesborough he was off. Apart from a spell a few years ago when he played for a side that got relegated, most off Mccalls achievments were with Everton, Rangers and Scotland. However their fans dont call him a legend. They call him an ex player. Their lies the problem with city fans. They live in a kind of fantasy land where mediocrity is regarded as success. For christ sakes when was this drooling going to end? At the first game in the blue square conference. Mccall was a good player. Those of us who had the pleasure of watching him in the eighties were the lucky ones. His dignity and respect he showed after the fire deserves the highest praise. But as a club Bradford City must move into the future and get out of this mess.
Paul64, regarding your comments on Stuart being a legend (or not), visit the following site: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Rangers_F.C ._Hall_of_Fame I think you'll find Rangers class him as such, and he hardly turned and ran when we missed out in the play-offs to Middlesbrough, Jack Tordoff wouldn't part with a relatively small amount of money for John Salako and Andy Townsend to bolster the squad for a final push, EVERYONE knew Stuart and John Hendrie would be sold in the summer if we didn't get promotion, and that left a bitter taste with Stuart that investment wasn't forthcoming. Nothing would have made him prouder than to wear the claret & amber in the top flight, which of course he managed to do in his return. I suggest you get your facts right before spouting out that he was quick to leave. CTID
Good to see some one who has some knowledge of BCFC history you are quite correct that both Stuart & Hendrie would have stayed if Mr Tordoff had put him money where his mouth was, I believe not only would Stu & John stayed but we would have gained promotion automaticaly because without doubt that was the BEST footballing team I have had the pleasure watching in my 50+ years of following BCFC the only thing I would question is it was Keith Curle & Andy Townsend not John Salako ? but good post.
[quote][p][bold]djmoulson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paul64[/bold] wrote: The history of football shows that very few good players return as managers to the clubs they played for and are successfull. The odds were stacked against Mccall. I find all this legend talk bazarre. He played for city in the eighties and when they failed in the playoffs to Middlesborough he was off. Apart from a spell a few years ago when he played for a side that got relegated, most off Mccalls achievments were with Everton, Rangers and Scotland. However their fans dont call him a legend. They call him an ex player. Their lies the problem with city fans. They live in a kind of fantasy land where mediocrity is regarded as success. For christ sakes when was this drooling going to end? At the first game in the blue square conference. Mccall was a good player. Those of us who had the pleasure of watching him in the eighties were the lucky ones. His dignity and respect he showed after the fire deserves the highest praise. But as a club Bradford City must move into the future and get out of this mess.[/p][/quote]Paul64, regarding your comments on Stuart being a legend (or not), visit the following site: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Rangers_F.C ._Hall_of_Fame I think you'll find Rangers class him as such, and he hardly turned and ran when we missed out in the play-offs to Middlesbrough, Jack Tordoff wouldn't part with a relatively small amount of money for John Salako and Andy Townsend to bolster the squad for a final push, EVERYONE knew Stuart and John Hendrie would be sold in the summer if we didn't get promotion, and that left a bitter taste with Stuart that investment wasn't forthcoming. Nothing would have made him prouder than to wear the claret & amber in the top flight, which of course he managed to do in his return. I suggest you get your facts right before spouting out that he was quick to leave. CTID[/p][/quote]Good to see some one who has some knowledge of BCFC history you are quite correct that both Stuart & Hendrie would have stayed if Mr Tordoff had put him money where his mouth was, I believe not only would Stu & John stayed but we would have gained promotion automaticaly because without doubt that was the BEST footballing team I have had the pleasure watching in my 50+ years of following BCFC the only thing I would question is it was Keith Curle & Andy Townsend not John Salako ? but good post. nowt fresh

4:32pm Sun 7 Feb 10

nowt fresh says...

paul64 wrote:
The history of football shows that very few good players return as managers to the clubs they played for and are successfull. The odds were stacked against Mccall. I find all this legend talk bazarre. He played for city in the eighties and when they failed in the playoffs to Middlesborough he was off. Apart from a spell a few years ago when he played for a side that got relegated, most off Mccalls achievments were with Everton, Rangers and Scotland. However their fans dont call him a legend. They call him an ex player. Their lies the problem with city fans. They live in a kind of fantasy land where mediocrity is regarded as success. For christ sakes when was this drooling going to end? At the first game in the blue square conference. Mccall was a good player. Those of us who had the pleasure of watching him in the eighties were the lucky ones. His dignity and respect he showed after the fire deserves the highest praise. But as a club Bradford City must move into the future and get out of this mess.
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=EdStCF9v8
kQ Take time out to watch this THEN tell me Rangers supporters didn't think of him as a LEGEND,GAME SET & MATCH Stuart McCall LEGEND both at Bradford City & Rangers FACT.
[quote][p][bold]paul64[/bold] wrote: The history of football shows that very few good players return as managers to the clubs they played for and are successfull. The odds were stacked against Mccall. I find all this legend talk bazarre. He played for city in the eighties and when they failed in the playoffs to Middlesborough he was off. Apart from a spell a few years ago when he played for a side that got relegated, most off Mccalls achievments were with Everton, Rangers and Scotland. However their fans dont call him a legend. They call him an ex player. Their lies the problem with city fans. They live in a kind of fantasy land where mediocrity is regarded as success. For christ sakes when was this drooling going to end? At the first game in the blue square conference. Mccall was a good player. Those of us who had the pleasure of watching him in the eighties were the lucky ones. His dignity and respect he showed after the fire deserves the highest praise. But as a club Bradford City must move into the future and get out of this mess.[/p][/quote]http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=EdStCF9v8 kQ Take time out to watch this THEN tell me Rangers supporters didn't think of him as a LEGEND,GAME SET & MATCH Stuart McCall LEGEND both at Bradford City & Rangers FACT. nowt fresh

5:02pm Sun 7 Feb 10

dannbradfc says...

paul64 wrote:
Djmoulson BD2. Jack Tordoff refused to bankroll more players in 87 for the very simple reason that the club was in financial crisis. Macall and Hendry made no secret of their desire for top flight football. The club had no option but to sell them whilst their profile was high. However what is the point of raking up events of 23 years ago. He was just a squad player at Rangers. No more, no less. Only small minded clubs live in the shadow of legends. Forward thinking clubs move on. Did Man Utd call Beckham a legend when he left? No. Live with the legend idea if it makes you feel better. I dont subscribe to it.
where have you come from?? Are you Lawn in disguise?? You are talking crap and quite clearly neither have respect for history nor Stuart as ex-player, supporter, patron, one of the few true heroes of Bradford, and even as manager. Squad player at Rangers??was that when he was the fulcrum of their midfield and Scotland international??
Are you really a city fan? cos we are getting many new posters on here who are basically as bad as some of those we have had to ut up with who actually go to games.
Another bitter, ill-educated idiot
[quote][p][bold]paul64[/bold] wrote: Djmoulson BD2. Jack Tordoff refused to bankroll more players in 87 for the very simple reason that the club was in financial crisis. Macall and Hendry made no secret of their desire for top flight football. The club had no option but to sell them whilst their profile was high. However what is the point of raking up events of 23 years ago. He was just a squad player at Rangers. No more, no less. Only small minded clubs live in the shadow of legends. Forward thinking clubs move on. Did Man Utd call Beckham a legend when he left? No. Live with the legend idea if it makes you feel better. I dont subscribe to it.[/p][/quote]where have you come from?? Are you Lawn in disguise?? You are talking crap and quite clearly neither have respect for history nor Stuart as ex-player, supporter, patron, one of the few true heroes of Bradford, and even as manager. Squad player at Rangers??was that when he was the fulcrum of their midfield and Scotland international?? Are you really a city fan? cos we are getting many new posters on here who are basically as bad as some of those we have had to ut up with who actually go to games. Another bitter, ill-educated idiot dannbradfc

5:05pm Sun 7 Feb 10

dannbradfc says...

essmbee wrote:
His resignation has come a season too late !
How many games you watched lately that aren't on sky????

Yet another idiot
[quote][p][bold]essmbee[/bold] wrote: His resignation has come a season too late ![/p][/quote]How many games you watched lately that aren't on sky???? Yet another idiot dannbradfc

5:13pm Sun 7 Feb 10

Reckless says...

Not just a City legend as a player but a Legend as a man.
I'm sure SM will find time to sit, read, and sift through the idiotic comments from the doom brigade that write their garbage on here and see that he is welcome as a true fan of Bradford City forever. This was always going to happen, the city of Bradford has no future, what's amazing is that it's ONE major football club can survive at all, it's survival will now depend on the true fans including SM still truly believing this is a club worth backing. I'm sad he's going - BCFC may not see him back at Valley Parade ever again, that is a terrible thought.
Not just a City legend as a player but a Legend as a man. I'm sure SM will find time to sit, read, and sift through the idiotic comments from the doom brigade that write their garbage on here and see that he is welcome as a true fan of Bradford City forever. This was always going to happen, the city of Bradford has no future, what's amazing is that it's ONE major football club can survive at all, it's survival will now depend on the true fans including SM still truly believing this is a club worth backing. I'm sad he's going - BCFC may not see him back at Valley Parade ever again, that is a terrible thought. Reckless

5:29pm Sun 7 Feb 10

dannbradfc says...

Lawn for ever wrote:
ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTID
Where you get that figure from?? If its from lawn i wouldn't trust it.
i wuld rather watch my club knowing i can trust who is in charge. we have had far too many chancers over the years running our club. rhodes has done more than enough and Stuart for one recognises this and has respect for the guy. Rhodes came out and spoke recently regarding the squad, lawn has not said anything apart from some vague programme notes. He said when he arrived he would tell the truth and that his honest approach may upset some people. Well this honest approach has left us the FANS not knowing what the financial state is, there was no vocal support for Stuart, no comment about the Delph money/loan /whatever. No comments about the Eastward pay/to play rumours, no comments about suspected pressure over both the Toop signing nor Rehman (both signing and captaincy). All this arouses suspision and goes against his original statements, which actually make him a liar to some degree and therefore can we trust him? Scepticism about his role at the club by fans are thus justified are they not?
We need new investment to go forward with any degree of hope. the Lawn situation reminds me of Simpson who was another chairman totally out of depth both financially and personality wise.

All Lawn needs to do is speak up with some TRUTHS then any conjecture, rumour conspiracy theory can end. Lke i said elsewhere recently i fully expect him to come out now Stu is gone spouting soundbites along the lines of 'this is a new start', money will be made available for the new manager to make a couple of signings', 'we need to build for next season' 'we are financially stable' 'we would lke to thank Stu for all his efforts but.....'
Actions and truth are what is required

Oh and by the way Lawnforever go back to whenec you have suddenly appeared. You are an idiot
[quote][p][bold]Lawn for ever[/bold] wrote: ALL YOU INSANE PEOPLE THAT HATE LAWN WHY DONT YOU ASK HIM TO LEAVE WITH MCCALL AND TAKE HIS 2MIL WITH HIM. WHERE WOULD THE CLUB BE THEN Eh? CTID[/p][/quote]Where you get that figure from?? If its from lawn i wouldn't trust it. i wuld rather watch my club knowing i can trust who is in charge. we have had far too many chancers over the years running our club. rhodes has done more than enough and Stuart for one recognises this and has respect for the guy. Rhodes came out and spoke recently regarding the squad, lawn has not said anything apart from some vague programme notes. He said when he arrived he would tell the truth and that his honest approach may upset some people. Well this honest approach has left us the FANS not knowing what the financial state is, there was no vocal support for Stuart, no comment about the Delph money/loan /whatever. No comments about the Eastward pay/to play rumours, no comments about suspected pressure over both the Toop signing nor Rehman (both signing and captaincy). All this arouses suspision and goes against his original statements, which actually make him a liar to some degree and therefore can we trust him? Scepticism about his role at the club by fans are thus justified are they not? We need new investment to go forward with any degree of hope. the Lawn situation reminds me of Simpson who was another chairman totally out of depth both financially and personality wise. All Lawn needs to do is speak up with some TRUTHS then any conjecture, rumour conspiracy theory can end. Lke i said elsewhere recently i fully expect him to come out now Stu is gone spouting soundbites along the lines of 'this is a new start', money will be made available for the new manager to make a couple of signings', 'we need to build for next season' 'we are financially stable' 'we would lke to thank Stu for all his efforts but.....' Actions and truth are what is required Oh and by the way Lawnforever go back to whenec you have suddenly appeared. You are an idiot dannbradfc

5:32pm Sun 7 Feb 10

dannbradfc says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
WHO EVER WE GET AS OUR NEW COACH WILL NOT...........Play James Hanson in midfield, as he did in the second half today!! WELL LETS HOPE NOT ANYWAY!!
KIT-MAN
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: WHO EVER WE GET AS OUR NEW COACH WILL NOT...........Play James Hanson in midfield, as he did in the second half today!! WELL LETS HOPE NOT ANYWAY!![/p][/quote]KIT-MAN dannbradfc

6:12pm Sun 7 Feb 10

yorky says...

A sad day for SM & BCFC, perhaps in the end Stuart simply let his heart rule his head - is it possible to care too much - I doubt it?
Thanks Stuart for all your efforts & all the best for the future.
CTID
A sad day for SM & BCFC, perhaps in the end Stuart simply let his heart rule his head - is it possible to care too much - I doubt it? Thanks Stuart for all your efforts & all the best for the future. CTID yorky

6:40pm Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey says...

after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suite
after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suite 2storey

7:09pm Sun 7 Feb 10

giveover says...

albion wrote:
djmoulson wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?!
Usually someone from Ireland.
I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.
[quote][p][bold]albion[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djmoulson[/bold] wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?![/p][/quote]Usually someone from Ireland.[/p][/quote]I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick. giveover

7:18pm Sun 7 Feb 10

truebantam82 says...

2storey wrote:
after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suite
You complete and utter tw*t.
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suite[/p][/quote]You complete and utter tw*t. truebantam82

7:20pm Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey says...

giveover wrote:
albion wrote:
djmoulson wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?!
Usually someone from Ireland.
I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.
its a word used to describe some-one with a mental age of between 8 and 12
[quote][p][bold]giveover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djmoulson[/bold] wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?![/p][/quote]Usually someone from Ireland.[/p][/quote]I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.[/p][/quote]its a word used to describe some-one with a mental age of between 8 and 12 2storey

7:24pm Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey says...

truebantam82 wrote:
2storey wrote: after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suite
You complete and utter tw*t.
explain why? all i wrote is true, he thought he was bigger than the club, lets see what he wants tomorrow ,when he leaves us in financial difficulty tomorrow
[quote][p][bold]truebantam82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suite[/p][/quote]You complete and utter tw*t.[/p][/quote]explain why? all i wrote is true, he thought he was bigger than the club, lets see what he wants tomorrow ,when he leaves us in financial difficulty tomorrow 2storey

7:26pm Sun 7 Feb 10

lonniejockstrap says...

2storey wrote:
giveover wrote:
albion wrote:
djmoulson wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?!
Usually someone from Ireland.
I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.
its a word used to describe some-one with a mental age of between 8 and 12
Oh so your the 'moran'!
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]giveover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djmoulson[/bold] wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?![/p][/quote]Usually someone from Ireland.[/p][/quote]I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.[/p][/quote]its a word used to describe some-one with a mental age of between 8 and 12[/p][/quote]Oh so your the 'moran'! lonniejockstrap

7:29pm Sun 7 Feb 10

thecitygent says...

2storey wrote:
after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suite
Ther are two people, yourself and Lawnforever who make the most incredible statements to paint a favourable picture ofMark Lawn that make me suspect that if either of you isn't 'Mr' Lawn then you are most certainly doing his talking. Thou protesteth too much to convince otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suite[/p][/quote]Ther are two people, yourself and Lawnforever who make the most incredible statements to paint a favourable picture ofMark Lawn that make me suspect that if either of you isn't 'Mr' Lawn then you are most certainly doing his talking. Thou protesteth too much to convince otherwise. thecitygent

7:33pm Sun 7 Feb 10

Pablo says...

Lawn appears to be as unpopular, as McCall was popular.

I agree, there's something about him that's not quite right.

Lawn can go as well - ASAP please.
Lawn appears to be as unpopular, as McCall was popular. I agree, there's something about him that's not quite right. Lawn can go as well - ASAP please. Pablo

7:35pm Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
2storey wrote:
giveover wrote:
albion wrote:
djmoulson wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?!
Usually someone from Ireland.
I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.
its a word used to describe some-one with a mental age of between 8 and 12
Oh so your the 'moran'!
no its 90% of people on this site who are not city fans, they are just mccall fans and are happy to see us go into blue square at the end of the season, as like i have said before good player,not a good manager, and there is idiots calling for lawn.s head when he only as the club,s interest at heart
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]giveover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djmoulson[/bold] wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?![/p][/quote]Usually someone from Ireland.[/p][/quote]I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.[/p][/quote]its a word used to describe some-one with a mental age of between 8 and 12[/p][/quote]Oh so your the 'moran'![/p][/quote]no its 90% of people on this site who are not city fans, they are just mccall fans and are happy to see us go into blue square at the end of the season, as like i have said before good player,not a good manager, and there is idiots calling for lawn.s head when he only as the club,s interest at heart 2storey

7:41pm Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey says...

Pablo wrote:
Lawn appears to be as unpopular, as McCall was popular. I agree, there's something about him that's not quite right. Lawn can go as well - ASAP please.
Yes good idea, let him go and take his money, were will we be then, cannt see anybody wanting to put any money in.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: Lawn appears to be as unpopular, as McCall was popular. I agree, there's something about him that's not quite right. Lawn can go as well - ASAP please.[/p][/quote]Yes good idea, let him go and take his money, were will we be then, cannt see anybody wanting to put any money in. 2storey

7:47pm Sun 7 Feb 10

The General 82-86 says...

2storey wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
2storey wrote:
giveover wrote:
albion wrote:
djmoulson wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?!
Usually someone from Ireland.
I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.
its a word used to describe some-one with a mental age of between 8 and 12
Oh so your the 'moran'!
no its 90% of people on this site who are not city fans, they are just mccall fans and are happy to see us go into blue square at the end of the season, as like i have said before good player,not a good manager, and there is idiots calling for lawn.s head when he only as the club,s interest at heart
Are you his love child you ****
I hope the shy Mr lawn packs his bag and goes THERE is only ONE chairman and it aint your dad !!
He put in money,do me a favour has no money he is a joke figure like you are on here !!
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]giveover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djmoulson[/bold] wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?![/p][/quote]Usually someone from Ireland.[/p][/quote]I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.[/p][/quote]its a word used to describe some-one with a mental age of between 8 and 12[/p][/quote]Oh so your the 'moran'![/p][/quote]no its 90% of people on this site who are not city fans, they are just mccall fans and are happy to see us go into blue square at the end of the season, as like i have said before good player,not a good manager, and there is idiots calling for lawn.s head when he only as the club,s interest at heart[/p][/quote]Are you his love child you **** I hope the shy Mr lawn packs his bag and goes THERE is only ONE chairman and it aint your dad !! He put in money,do me a favour has no money he is a joke figure like you are on here !! The General 82-86

7:52pm Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey says...

thecitygent wrote:
2storey wrote: after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suite
Ther are two people, yourself and Lawnforever who make the most incredible statements to paint a favourable picture ofMark Lawn that make me suspect that if either of you isn't 'Mr' Lawn then you are most certainly doing his talking. Thou protesteth too much to convince otherwise.
lawnforever not been on today perhaps he is polishing his boots ready to get behind mccall r se in the morning, haha
[quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suite[/p][/quote]Ther are two people, yourself and Lawnforever who make the most incredible statements to paint a favourable picture ofMark Lawn that make me suspect that if either of you isn't 'Mr' Lawn then you are most certainly doing his talking. Thou protesteth too much to convince otherwise.[/p][/quote]lawnforever not been on today perhaps he is polishing his boots ready to get behind mccall r se in the morning, haha 2storey

8:02pm Sun 7 Feb 10

2storey says...

The General 82-86 wrote:
2storey wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
2storey wrote:
giveover wrote:
albion wrote:
djmoulson wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?!
Usually someone from Ireland.
I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.
its a word used to describe some-one with a mental age of between 8 and 12
Oh so your the 'moran'!
no its 90% of people on this site who are not city fans, they are just mccall fans and are happy to see us go into blue square at the end of the season, as like i have said before good player,not a good manager, and there is idiots calling for lawn.s head when he only as the club,s interest at heart
Are you his love child you **** I hope the shy Mr lawn packs his bag and goes THERE is only ONE chairman and it aint your dad !! He put in money,do me a favour has no money he is a joke figure like you are on here !!
no my dad has his money in the bulls,probably has more sense than lawn
[quote][p][bold]The General 82-86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]giveover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djmoulson[/bold] wrote: What is a 'moran'....!?![/p][/quote]Usually someone from Ireland.[/p][/quote]I thougt it was a hand held type of drum you hit with a stick.[/p][/quote]its a word used to describe some-one with a mental age of between 8 and 12[/p][/quote]Oh so your the 'moran'![/p][/quote]no its 90% of people on this site who are not city fans, they are just mccall fans and are happy to see us go into blue square at the end of the season, as like i have said before good player,not a good manager, and there is idiots calling for lawn.s head when he only as the club,s interest at heart[/p][/quote]Are you his love child you **** I hope the shy Mr lawn packs his bag and goes THERE is only ONE chairman and it aint your dad !! He put in money,do me a favour has no money he is a joke figure like you are on here !![/p][/quote]no my dad has his money in the bulls,probably has more sense than lawn 2storey

8:24pm Sun 7 Feb 10

thecitygent says...

2storey wrote:
thecitygent wrote:
2storey wrote: after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suite
Ther are two people, yourself and Lawnforever who make the most incredible statements to paint a favourable picture ofMark Lawn that make me suspect that if either of you isn't 'Mr' Lawn then you are most certainly doing his talking. Thou protesteth too much to convince otherwise.
lawnforever not been on today perhaps he is polishing his boots ready to get behind mccall r se in the morning, haha
The similarity of your postings with that of lawnforever is uncanny - the same content, the same response, the same boarishness, the same uber-defensiveness and sensitivity at any criticism of 'Mr' Lawn. A psycho-analyst would have a field day. It wouldn't surprise me if you were one and the same. Ho ho 'warm-sign'.
[quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thecitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2storey[/bold] wrote: after just watching look north, i have just lost respect for the ginger god, he thanked everyone at the club, and said he wud speak to julian never mentioned lawn the guy who saved the club and paid his over the top wage for the last 3 seasons,i hope lawn pulls his money out now and gets rid of the mccall suite[/p][/quote]Ther are two people, yourself and Lawnforever who make the most incredible statements to paint a favourable picture ofMark Lawn that make me suspect that if either of you isn't 'Mr' Lawn then you are most certainly doing his talking. Thou protesteth too much to convince otherwise.[/p][/quote]lawnforever not been on today perhaps he is polishing his boots ready to get behind mccall r se in the morning, haha[/p][/quote]The similarity of your postings with that of lawnforever is uncanny - the same content, the same response, the same boarishness, the same uber-defensiveness and sensitivity at any criticism of 'Mr' Lawn. A psycho-analyst would have a field day. It wouldn't surprise me if you were one and the same. Ho ho 'warm-sign'. thecitygent

8:29pm Sun 7 Feb 10

rowsman says...

Like many others, I wish Stuart the very best of luck in the future. he has certainly not had much of it in his managerial career at City. Most managers are only as good as their management team allows them to be - remember Brian Clough and Don Revie for example. I rather suspect that many supporters would take the view that Stuart's coaching support was not strong enough. Nevertheless, he will remain in the hearts of the City faithful regardless of the team's failure to achieve. I reckon that his appointment in the first place generated thousands of season ticket purchases and therefore it would be good if the new management team were to include Stuart in some capacity perhaps as an assistant manager or coach - if his pride would let him.
Like many others, I wish Stuart the very best of luck in the future. he has certainly not had much of it in his managerial career at City. Most managers are only as good as their management team allows them to be - remember Brian Clough and Don Revie for example. I rather suspect that many supporters would take the view that Stuart's coaching support was not strong enough. Nevertheless, he will remain in the hearts of the City faithful regardless of the team's failure to achieve. I reckon that his appointment in the first place generated thousands of season ticket purchases and therefore it would be good if the new management team were to include Stuart in some capacity perhaps as an assistant manager or coach - if his pride would let him. rowsman

9:11pm Sun 7 Feb 10

Spenvalleyspartan says...

After Bremner was sacked at L**** in 1988 Wilkinson was given plenty of funds to kick start their rise to the top. Maybe after McCall failed to get us up last season on a very good budget Lawn is reluctant to give him funds. After all its his money. Don't see any other business men queing up to bankroll the club so maybe we shouldn't be too harsh on Lawn. Just a thought.
After Bremner was sacked at L**** in 1988 Wilkinson was given plenty of funds to kick start their rise to the top. Maybe after McCall failed to get us up last season on a very good budget Lawn is reluctant to give him funds. After all its his money. Don't see any other business men queing up to bankroll the club so maybe we shouldn't be too harsh on Lawn. Just a thought. Spenvalleyspartan

12:21am Mon 8 Feb 10

dannbradfc says...

yes its his money but its no good for us if it stays in his pocket. that is his choice a nd he does not have enough clout anyway to ever really be a contender. He has done well in his part to stabilise the club to use his own words but he should now be doing his best to attempt to get in someone/others who can ACTUALLY take the club forward. Afterall he says that he is a city fan and this is the only way we are actually going to progress. Not talking to your manager for months is'nt going to help neither.
yes its his money but its no good for us if it stays in his pocket. that is his choice a nd he does not have enough clout anyway to ever really be a contender. He has done well in his part to stabilise the club to use his own words but he should now be doing his best to attempt to get in someone/others who can ACTUALLY take the club forward. Afterall he says that he is a city fan and this is the only way we are actually going to progress. Not talking to your manager for months is'nt going to help neither. dannbradfc

7:53am Mon 8 Feb 10

tyker says...

posted elsewhere on these pages "agree with you spleen victor. However was he pushed or not.

The inference is, by his seaking a compenstion package, that he was sacked yet it seems from the "exclusive report" that he "McCall decided to go after Saturday’s 1-0 loss to Bury at Valley Parade, ending a reign that began in May 2007"

If he descides to walk out on a contract then the club itself could be lookimg for compensation from MCcall for breach of contract. If the club had sacked him then he would be entitled to full recompense for the remaining period of his contract.

So was he sacked or did he resign?

it appears to me that he resigned and is now seeking to take money out of the club which it can ill afford.

commenst please
posted elsewhere on these pages "agree with you spleen victor. However was he pushed or not. The inference is, by his seaking a compenstion package, that he was sacked yet it seems from the "exclusive report" that he "McCall decided to go after Saturday’s 1-0 loss to Bury at Valley Parade, ending a reign that began in May 2007" If he descides to walk out on a contract then the club itself could be lookimg for compensation from MCcall for breach of contract. If the club had sacked him then he would be entitled to full recompense for the remaining period of his contract. So was he sacked or did he resign? it appears to me that he resigned and is now seeking to take money out of the club which it can ill afford. commenst please tyker

8:26am Mon 8 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

tyker wrote:
posted elsewhere on these pages "agree with you spleen victor. However was he pushed or not. The inference is, by his seaking a compenstion package, that he was sacked yet it seems from the "exclusive report" that he "McCall decided to go after Saturday’s 1-0 loss to Bury at Valley Parade, ending a reign that began in May 2007" If he descides to walk out on a contract then the club itself could be lookimg for compensation from MCcall for breach of contract. If the club had sacked him then he would be entitled to full recompense for the remaining period of his contract. So was he sacked or did he resign? it appears to me that he resigned and is now seeking to take money out of the club which it can ill afford. commenst please
Maybe he is just out to look out for his staff ie Jacobs. How do we know that he isn't saying i don't want a pay out but please look after jacobs after all its my fault we haven't been successful i want to go and its my fault jakes has lost his job. That wouldn't suprise me one bit because the man is loyal to the club his staff and the fans. So far this season from the championship to league 2 25 managers have resigned or been sacked. Now then how many have texed the football league show to thank the fans for their incredible support? THATS RIGHT ONLY STUART MCCALL because thats the kind of guy he is. He will never ever take out of the club what he knows it cannot afford,its a slur against him and some of the comments have been disgusting. Yes he has failed but 99.9% of all true city fans will continue to respect the best player if not coach that city ever had a TRUE CITY MAN. Its time though for the club to move forward and the fans to unite and the club grow stronger and i don't know if that can happen with the boardroom split i think we need one chairman that can make strong decisions as this saga has shown when they is a split it rips the club in two.
[quote][p][bold]tyker[/bold] wrote: posted elsewhere on these pages "agree with you spleen victor. However was he pushed or not. The inference is, by his seaking a compenstion package, that he was sacked yet it seems from the "exclusive report" that he "McCall decided to go after Saturday’s 1-0 loss to Bury at Valley Parade, ending a reign that began in May 2007" If he descides to walk out on a contract then the club itself could be lookimg for compensation from MCcall for breach of contract. If the club had sacked him then he would be entitled to full recompense for the remaining period of his contract. So was he sacked or did he resign? it appears to me that he resigned and is now seeking to take money out of the club which it can ill afford. commenst please[/p][/quote]Maybe he is just out to look out for his staff ie Jacobs. How do we know that he isn't saying i don't want a pay out but please look after jacobs after all its my fault we haven't been successful i want to go and its my fault jakes has lost his job. That wouldn't suprise me one bit because the man is loyal to the club his staff and the fans. So far this season from the championship to league 2 25 managers have resigned or been sacked. Now then how many have texed the football league show to thank the fans for their incredible support? THATS RIGHT ONLY STUART MCCALL because thats the kind of guy he is. He will never ever take out of the club what he knows it cannot afford,its a slur against him and some of the comments have been disgusting. Yes he has failed but 99.9% of all true city fans will continue to respect the best player if not coach that city ever had a TRUE CITY MAN. Its time though for the club to move forward and the fans to unite and the club grow stronger and i don't know if that can happen with the boardroom split i think we need one chairman that can make strong decisions as this saga has shown when they is a split it rips the club in two. macca1969

8:41am Mon 8 Feb 10

tyker says...

it does not say that on the so called exclusive -- I quote

"The Bantams boss will officially walk away after meeting joint-chairman Julian Rhodes to finalise a compensation package with 17 months still left on his contract.

McCall decided to go after Saturday’s 1-0 loss to Bury at Valley Parade, ending a reign that began in May 2007"

so why, if he decided to go voluntarily is he entitled to any form of compensation package? If he resigned then surely he accepts there is no monetary award due to him. Indeed legally the club could seek compensation from SM as he is in breach of a two year contract. I doubt that that will happen but why is entitled to any compensation if he walked away. LEGEND OR NOT-- employment regulations apply equaly to him as it does to all employees. Is he considring launching a constructive dismissal case!!

Where is Lawn in all of this?
it does not say that on the so called exclusive -- I quote "The Bantams boss will officially walk away after meeting joint-chairman Julian Rhodes to finalise a compensation package with 17 months still left on his contract. McCall decided to go after Saturday’s 1-0 loss to Bury at Valley Parade, ending a reign that began in May 2007" so why, if he decided to go voluntarily is he entitled to any form of compensation package? If he resigned then surely he accepts there is no monetary award due to him. Indeed legally the club could seek compensation from SM as he is in breach of a two year contract. I doubt that that will happen but why is entitled to any compensation if he walked away. LEGEND OR NOT-- employment regulations apply equaly to him as it does to all employees. Is he considring launching a constructive dismissal case!! Where is Lawn in all of this? tyker

8:44am Mon 8 Feb 10

macca1969 says...

thebrownsauceman wrote:
i respect mccall for leaving for the sake of the club (presuming he doesnt do another hudini and decide to stay). he is a legend AS A PLAYER. if mccall has made his decision to leave then let him do it. Do you know what i have noticed, Mccall as a manager has divided the fans (obviously not his fault) the fans are divided. whats the point in this forum all most of you do "shaun from richmand" "macca 1969" etc etc is slag each other off. theres nothing wrong with challenging opinions but none of you back it up with any facts. you all claim to be proper fans, but ask yourself this question do proper fans slag each other off left right and center
Sorry you are WRONG. I have never slagged off city fans, as true city fans would never ever slag Stuart or question his integrity. Yes question his abilities as a coach, but slag him and question his status in the city hearts no. These are not city fans at heart at all as if they cannot respect the man for what he did achieve whilst at city, they cannot support the club. I'm not blinkered i knew before christmas this was going to be the outcome the man had no luck at all. Its a fine line between success and failure and after our poor start, i saw a City team for the first time in seasons compete in every single game up to Dale at home. We had terrible decisions against us even saturday we should have had a blatent pen at 0-0, we had our most experienced striker injured all season and the weight of expectation at our great club was too much for the young lads to bear on their own. McCall then showed his inexperience as a coach by trying to make things happen, to turn it around and started to tinker with team formations and players positions and this brought the loss of form and lack of confidence spread through the team. If the decisions and a bit of luck had gone our way i don't think we would be here now, alas it didn't and i respect Stuarts decision to go and support it and still believe no true City man can diss or slag the man. I always knew he would know when it was right to go and he has proved this he didn't need the bile posted or character assasination posted by so called city supporters just our support till the end. It is still a sad day but our club although wounded and hurt will move on and i with many other so called Stuart McCall fans will continue to show the same support to the club we love and the next city boss. I will never slag off a city fan ever, but these cannot be called fans end of.
[quote][p][bold]thebrownsauceman[/bold] wrote: i respect mccall for leaving for the sake of the club (presuming he doesnt do another hudini and decide to stay). he is a legend AS A PLAYER. if mccall has made his decision to leave then let him do it. Do you know what i have noticed, Mccall as a manager has divided the fans (obviously not his fault) the fans are divided. whats the point in this forum all most of you do "shaun from richmand" "macca 1969" etc etc is slag each other off. theres nothing wrong with challenging opinions but none of you back it up with any facts. you all claim to be proper fans, but ask yourself this question do proper fans slag each other off left right and center[/p][/quote]Sorry you are WRONG. I have never slagged off city fans, as true city fans would never ever slag Stuart or question his integrity. Yes question his abilities as a coach, but slag him and question his status in the city hearts no. These are not city fans at heart at all as if they cannot respect the man for what he did achieve whilst at city, they cannot support the club. I'm not blinkered i knew before christmas this was going to be the outcome the man had no luck at all. Its a fine line between success and failure and after our poor start, i saw a City team for the first time in seasons compete in every single game up to Dale at home. We had terrible decisions against us even saturday we should have had a blatent pen at 0-0, we had our most experienced striker injured all season and the weight of expectation at our great club was too much for the young lads to bear on their own. McCall then showed his inexperience as a coach by trying to make things happen, to turn it around and started to tinker with team formations and players positions and this brought the loss of form and lack of confidence spread through the team. If the decisions and a bit of luck had gone our way i don't think we would be here now, alas it didn't and i respect Stuarts decision to go and support it and still believe no true City man can diss or slag the man. I always knew he would know when it was right to go and he has proved this he didn't need the bile posted or character assasination posted by so called city supporters just our support till the end. It is still a sad day but our club although wounded and hurt will move on and i with many other so called Stuart McCall fans will continue to show the same support to the club we love and the next city boss. I will never slag off a city fan ever, but these cannot be called fans end of. macca1969

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